Chicago Magazine Article
- Can Cameras Replace Cops?
No one can say for sure why murders and violent crimes are on the rise in Chicago. But some criminologists are questioning why the new police superintendent, Jody Weis, is moving away from proven community policing strategies.
An extensive article questioning some of the same things we've been pointing out for a while now. But while the article appears to dwell a bit on a return to the Golden Age of CAPS, we still are of the opinion that CAPS outlived its usefulness and ended up being more of a drain on disappearing Department dollars in recent years.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Police Officers are good people who just want to feel that they are needed and wanted. They do want to feel that they are making a difference. But when the media and those about them listen to the media they make them feel like they are not wanted! I'm a old timer on the job and I think that these poor young officers are noi given any slack. I love these guys and gals that are coming on after me because they are going to be the line of defense between good and evil. I'll tell you that 99% if not all of the 25th District try every day to do their job!
Thankful to be a 25th District Sgt. who have men and women working every day for the citizens of Chicago.
No mention of the video posted by the Sun-Times of the DUI arrest that prosecuters dismissed. I guess you did not know how to address and rationalize those actions.
Signed,
A member of the 4th Estate.
I have a friend that suffers from insomnia. Before bedtime, I've suggested a warm glass of milk, sexual activity or listening to a "white noise" CD. Nothing seemed to work.
Then, using my clout with the City of Chicago, I got her a job viewing 20 to 50 "crime" camera monitors at OEMC.
While she's only 27 years old, she now has occupational narcolepsy. Within five minutes of arrival at work, she is off into a deep REM sleep. She is now totally rested and refreshed at the end of her tour.
I even bought her a 120 decibel alarm clock so she would be alerted to quitting time.
For best results, I suggest that the OEMC monitor work station employees be supplied with a comfy cot to enhance their vigilance
If she quits, I believe she should continue her rehab by watching paint dry or her
lawn growing.
If you rule out illegal parkers, pissers, brown baggers and loose cigarette merchants, OEMC gets a good bang for the taxpayers' bucks.
C.A.P.S.?
C.A.P.S. should be exponentially expanded. Peter "Judas" Karl says it works. He would never lie or betray a decent, hard-working police officer. Mr. Karl is an honorable man. His credibility and integrity is above reproach. He would NEVER abandon an honest, dedicated police officer to twist slowly in the wind at the mercy of corrupt, vindictive, sadistic city officials. Judas is one stand-up guy.
C.A.P.S. WORKS!
“What’s going on?” one man asked. “We used to have over 100 arrests a month.”
“The budget’s been cut,” one of the beat officers replied. “There was a newspaper article about it. Jody Weis is cutting the budget again; they’re retiring officers and only hiring 200 new ones. We’re going to be short 800 officers. But why don’t you come and look at the nice camera I have in my car?”
The second beat officer added: “They have a GPS system so they can know where we are. So any incident that anyone has a complaint about, if it happens in front of the car, the whole incident will be videotaped.”
The residents shook their heads in disgust. “You think they can pawn that bean we have downtown?” one resident asked sarcastically, referring to the Cloud Gate sculpture in Millennium Park. “So they could pay for more officers?”
Excellent response to these b.s. caps meetings thank you office for telling the truth.
How about less boots on the ground
SCC,
Please tell me it isn't so, no political appointments or nepotism in Chicago or within the CPD.
From Sneed's Column:
Tipsville . . .
It's a fact: State Comptroller Dan Hynes, a former health care attorney who is an advocate of federal- and state-funded stem cell research, is planning to run for Illinois attorney general.
• • Hire 'em: Sneed has learned Hynes has hired Sarah Rosenzweig, a top Obama fund-raiser and Illinois finance director for the Obama inaugural, to raise funds for his attorney general campaign.
IS THIS THE SISTER OF IPRA director Ilana Rosenzweig???
If so, what a fricking joke, NOBODY will ever take anything from Chicago seriously. Nothing but "CLOUT" hacks.
Helicopter One was flying around Bowen High School at dismissal time. The Zone had just finished reading a long list of backlogged jobs.
Helicopter One came on the air and asked if there was anything they could do to help (to their credit).
Anonymous Voice: Land and handle the domestic.
I vote for a camera to replace Cakes in the 25th. It would probably see more and get more done!
Cameras can replace Cops. That is, when that camera is a transformer Seiser-cam! Seiser runs it!
Anonymous said...
No mention of the video posted by the Sun-Times of the DUI arrest that prosecutors dismissed. I guess you did not know how to address and rationalize those actions.
Signed,
A member of the 4th Estate.
3/12/2009 02:38:00 AM
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Gee, SCC misses one story and you are there to jump on him/her. You guys in the 4th estate blow off stories everyday and twist and lie about others. Don't worry, I'm sure it will be addressed so you can have something to write. Its not like you guys in the media do any work on your own these days.
Signed,
Not SCC
P.S. I fixed your typo.
YOU ARE OFFICIALLY FAMOUS SCC!
http://cbs2chicago.com/local/Blue.Light.Cameras.2.956964.html
BREAK OUT DA BUBBLY!!!!!
THE ARTICLE WAS PRETTY INFORMATIVE.
IVE NEVER READ CHICAGO MAGAZINE I PUT IT AS ONE FAVORITES.
SURE AS HELL BEATS THE SCUM-TIME
shooting at 51st and wood last night right by a camera, a cr # was made because the camera did not get down off of the pole and chase the shooter
The federal government provided a grant for the city to fund the CAPS program. Many studies from universities and independent research groups have conducted studies on its effectiveness to combat crime and most of the studies have shown that there was no change in reducing crime.
Money from the federal grants are now drying up. The federal government is now providing grants for cameras, which is why Daley is turning his attentions there. It is not about the money, it is about the money.
ATTENTION: ANYTHING THE FOP OR THE CITY LIKES IS BAD FOR YOU! UNDERSTAND? SOME OF YOU NITWITS KEEP BRAGGING ABOUT THINGS THE CITY AND THE FOP GAVE YOU NOT REALIZING THAT THEY ARE BAD FOR YOU! 10 AND 12 HOUR DAYS ARE BAD FOR YOU! THE 3 WATCH SYSTEM IS GONE BYE BYE! NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND? LESS MANPOWER NEEDED BECAUSE YOU WILL ALL WORK LONGER DAYS/NIGHTS! COMPREDE? CAPICHE? WAKE UP PEOPLE! THE CAVALRY IS NOT COMING TO RESCUE YOU! THERE ARE NO FRESH HORSES OR WATER ON ITS WAY! YOU HAVE ALL BEEN SCAMMED, DON'T YOU GET IT?
"Its all about money kid, everything else is just conversation!"
Former disgraced CPD and Lawyer in the news again.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2009/mar/06/former-lawyer-gets-10-years-extortion-case/
Please hire more Blue Shirts!
Signed,
A member of the 4th Estate.
3/12/2009 02:38:00 AM
Are you are one of those sluts who used to screw your white-haired hippie English/Social Studies college teachers while you bought into their liberal bullshit? And now you're just another kind of whore?
Nobody is rationalizing anything. If you read the comments about this incident you will find that 99% of officers disagree with illlegal activity by ANY PO because it tarnishes the whole department.
While you're sipping your latte and smoking weed tonight consider this: 25 years ago there were REAL journalists in this town who could be trusted and who actually knew and talked to real police officers. Now all you kiddies can do is troll a blog. How proud you must be!!!
I think if Jody Weis does not figure out how to lead the police, he will have more than he bargained for this summer. Be prepared for the riots officers because we have no leadership in this department!!
OFF TOPIC: MARINE UNIT TEST IS FIXED. JUST LIKE EVERY F*CKING UNIT TEST ON THIS DEPARTMENT!
The one thing I thought and liked about our great leader J-Fed was that I thought at least now if your qualified, work hard, test well, then you should get the position. -WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG.
My source is actually a friend of mine who is running the interview portion of the Marine test. Friend or not, I was pretty pissed off when I heard this. Hard work and being qualified is not what the Chicago Police Department is all about I guess. I guess if your one of the "chosen" ones it's good to know you already have the position all you have to do is show up. As for all the hard worker's, I guess shame on you.
Hey J-Fed If your reading this, how about making ALL the test's fair and if you work hard and qualified -you get it. Maybe all these idiot gang bangers won't get hired and make the rest of us look bad, maybe the "qualified" officer's would be in units (Intel, Narc, Gangs, Marine, SWAT)
and actual "work" would get done on the streets and actually lowering the murder/crime wave!
Makes to much sense though I guess.
Caps did nothing but funnel more of "our money" out to bullshit organizations! peter karl got launched from the press as he was to daley compliant and daley gave him a job he is full of shit,why not cut his job?
3/12/2009 01:51:00 AM
Finally 1 boss who stands up for the troops!
Isn't Peter Karl the TV reporter who broke the story on the city's police promotion scandal years back?
Then he left the TV station for a job with the city for millions of dollars.
2:38
Loser. Go do your job and quit trolling for info on blogs.
A member of the common sense estate.
Hey, Northside. When it comes to a "stand-up guy", you forgot to mention the original lawyer you retained on your federal whistleblower case v. City.
You'd think that Richard J. Brzeczek, Esq., the former CPD police superintendent, would have realized that the statute of limitations to file your complaint is two years in Illinois.
While even the most stupid first year law student knows that fact, either Brzeczek was as dumb as a sack of hammers or...
Frankly, I wouldn't trust that "stand-up guy" to do a real estate closing on an outhouse. You're lucky you fired him in time.
One of the few things that Jesse Jackson ever said that was true was about having all these cameras insted of more cops on the street.
"The cameras only watch the pain, they do nothing to end the pain."
Sex In The Shower
In a recent survey carried out for leading toiletries firm BRUT, people from the City of Chicago have proved to be the most likely to have had sex in the shower!
In the survey, 86% of Chicago 's inner city residents (almost all of whom are registered Democrats) said that they have enjoyed sex in the shower.
The other 14% said they hadn't been to prison yet.
How about less boots on the ground
3/12/2009 05:47:00 AM
why are you trying to sound like a military goof ball? The CPD has their own lingo. 19-paul no job to big or too small>>>
"OFF TOPIC: MARINE UNIT TEST IS FIXED."
The Marine Unit has always been a primo clout spot but I'm not sure how high it is on the clout spot list. Maybe we should start listing and ranking all of the spots for reference purposes.
The one thing I thought and liked about our great leader J-Fed was that I thought at least now if your qualified, work hard, test well, then you should get the position. -WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG
dude, you're just figuring this out now!?
CPD 4 LIFE said...
OFF TOPIC: MARINE UNIT TEST IS FIXED. JUST LIKE EVERY F*CKING UNIT TEST ON THIS DEPARTMENT!
The one thing I thought and liked about our great leader J-Fed was that I thought at least now if your qualified, work hard, test well, then you should get the position. -WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG.
My source is actually a friend of mine who is running the interview portion of the Marine test. Friend or not, I was pretty pissed off when I heard this. Hard work and being qualified is not what the Chicago Police Department is all about I guess. I guess if your one of the "chosen" ones it's good to know you already have the position all you have to do is show up. As for all the hard worker's, I guess shame on you.
Hey J-Fed If your reading this, how about making ALL the test's fair and if you work hard and qualified -you get it. Maybe all these idiot gang bangers won't get hired and make the rest of us look bad, maybe the "qualified" officer's would be in units (Intel, Narc, Gangs, Marine, SWAT)
and actual "work" would get done on the streets and actually lowering the murder/crime wave!
Makes to much sense though I guess.
3/12/2009 11:06:00 AM
Hey smart guy...
Maybe the reason you failed is because you have no grasp of the english language. On a side note, what the fuck is the marine unit going to do to stop the crime/murder wave and get some work done on the streets?
CAPS actually did work in some areas. In the early-mid '90s, it was geared towards white, liberal, yuppies and working class Hispanics. It did help areas gentrify and stabilize on the North and near West sides.
The focus shifted about 6 years ago. City Hall looked at voter demographics and refocused CAPS into a program whose purpose is to keep African-American Reverands at bay. Their White/Hispanic coalition demographic models from the '90s became obsolete and the program was changed accordingly.
If cameras can replace cops on the street, why doesn't Daley give up his army of bodyguards and just hook up a blue-light camera to his office/limo/plane/cottage etc?
Oh, Muffy. I just love Chicago Magazine. All is well. Obama won, you know. All will be right. I wish they would do another cover on Michelle.
I'll whip up a couple decaff espressos. Lets put on that whale song CD and see what's in this issue together.
Oooooh an article on Tom Dart! Look, Muffy! "Dart’s background is more community do-gooder than tough-guy cop." He refused to do evictions! That's real law enforcement. Evil landlords wanting rent? Obama will fix them, too. Way to go Dart-man! Yes we can! I loved his float in the Gay Pride parade, too.
Look! Budget wines for under $12 a bottle! Are times that tough? I wouldn't be caught dead having the Sniffingtons over to drink wine you can buy at Jewel.
Whats this article? Cameras over cops? Gosh, Chicago Magazine has really gone cop crazy this issue! Pour me another demitasse of espresso. *sip*
The guys watching those cameras are “geeks with guns”! It sounds so cute. I never liked those cameras though. Too Big Brotherish. And those flashing blue lights...they cast odd patterns through the miniblinds.
Look, says here CAPS was the best thing EVER.
You don't remember CAPS?
We went to that beat meeting once.
Yeah, and those people were complaining about the poor Streetwise salesmen. I suspect they were closet Republicans, so that explains no compassion. *sip* And the CAPS guy started talking about social paradigms and quality of life and community problem solving? *sip*
And the guy who works our beat and actually answers calls was staring at the ceiling and then the floor and then I think he was asleep. But he was muttering "who's going to do this all this shit?" over and over again. *sip* And they only had regular coffee and we said we would never go back.
And listen to this: “This aggressive, military style could be a result of the fact that Weis doesn’t understand the situation he’s in. So he’s going with what he knows.”
Sure, Muffy. It must be true! Its in Chicago Magazine, and its was said by a real professor!
The FBI is just fascist and militaristic and this Weis guy must be a real hard ass. A regular Nazi. Look at his picture! He looks so mean! He's probably training guys to beat up people right now. Like that video clip they run all the time on the news.
No, I don't think he looks like Corky, the kid dowstairs. Don't make fun, you know he's "special".
What is this city coming to. Roll me a joint, I have to mellow out we have that gallery opening tonight. I'm tossing this magazine. This mean Weis fellow has you upset....
[fast forward: a dirty pair of hands takes Chicago Magazine out of the recycle bin. a month later...under a nearby viaduct]
Hey, Snake. What gives? I told you to do that somewhere else. Oh, got the squirts, huh? Nasty. I told you not to eat that stuff from the sushi place dumpster. That green wasabi stuff makes it hard to tell what's good or bad. Its raw fish fer crippes sake. Give me a good hot dog place anytime, they never go bad.
Wow, thats a bad one. What? you forgot to bring some paper? Let me see...I gotta old Chicago magazine here...here ya go.
Yeah. I prefer it, too. So smooth and soothing. Forgit Charmin. For some reason this works better. After I'm done, I feel so...somehow...EXTRA satisfied.
"Last April, Weis ordered something akin to a paramilitary assault on crime: helicopter patrols of South and West Side neighborhoods and, on the ground, officers dressed in full riot gear. Weis has also floated a plan to equip officers with M4 assault rifles, a weapon used by the U.S. Marines."
Yeah, OK. Chicago Magazine, put down the brie and Chablis. and bite into this reality sandwich:
Helicopters can respond to various areas of the city quickly spot Mookie as he runs from the police after he has committed a crime you have only seen on TV.
Riot gear? Oh,that would be BDU's which are much more practical running through alleys and over fences so the police can lay hands on Mookie as he runs from the police after he has committed a crime you have only seen on TV.
M4's? Yes, a version is used by the military. Yes we are seeing more use of these types of guns by the bad guys. We want it because it is more accurate and powerful that a handgun, which is often used by Mookie as he runs from the police after he has committed a crime you have only seen on TV.
Just some food for thought.
If we got rid of J-ListGiverUpper we could hire 5 more cops!
What a great picture of J-FED, all tan and every hair in place above that crossed-eye face. Gosh who gave you that forehead Frankenstein?
You looked as sincere as Don Rickles giving someone a compliment.
I think it's funny when your super secret security team gets foiled! Ha Ha that was me, who wouldn't let their covert civilian in.....Chump!
12:21 PM
One and the same. Mister CAPS himself.
Word is that CAPS is strong at the academy. The new recruits will be filled with CAPs and Technology. They will be able to work a computer and use google maps, but they won't know how to do old police work when they get a car that has no pdt or when the system goes down. God help them if they are 99. I wish them luck. More civilian minded people to run the dept. and this is what u get!!Stay safe
I once applied for the Marine Unit.
I passed the swim test and had an interview. I never got picked. Now I was a PADI certified open water diver for years, I also have a Coast Guard "6 Pack," captains license and at the time I owned my own boat. Just wasnt qualified enough I guess. The three people I knew who made it had not one of the three qualifications that I had. Yeah its legit alright.
Only on this job - they reward incompetence with a large salary by promoting same without having to "really" take a test.
Less boots on the ground?
I only wear Birkenstocks.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
SCC - I cannot believe my eyes and ears! Allison Rosati on Channel 5 10 pm news said "Jfed is cracking down on recruits. He fired 4 recruits today. Jfed went to the academy and saw 3 recruits who couldn't keep up with sit ups and 1recruit who couldn't keep up with the run. This is highly unusual, because the recruits just started the academy four days ago, and many have quit their jobs to start the police academy. The department said they will consider giving the 4 recruits another chance at a later date."
Didn't the recruits have to pass a physical fitness exam in order to get hired? Apparently the department though they were qualified enough to hire them. But Jfed walks in the door to do a spot check and deems these recruits as not being fit enough for his taste? Shouldn't they have been allowed to actually go through the academy first, and if they don't pass the physical fitness qualifications upon completion - then they get fired?
If Jfed continues obsessing at this rate, you can forget about the 200 new police officers this year. We're already down to 196 - at least that's what we know of.
Anonymous said...
SCC - I cannot believe my eyes and ears! Allison Rosati on Channel 5 10 pm news said "Jfed is cracking down on recruits. He fired 4 recruits today. Jfed went to the academy and saw 3 recruits who couldn't keep up with sit ups and 1recruit who couldn't keep up with the run. This is highly unusual, because the recruits just started the academy four days ago, and many have quit their jobs to start the police academy. The department said they will consider giving the 4 recruits another chance at a later date."
Didn't the recruits have to pass a physical fitness exam in order to get hired? Apparently the department though they were qualified enough to hire them. But Jfed walks in the door to do a spot check and deems these recruits as not being fit enough for his taste? Shouldn't they have been allowed to actually go through the academy first, and if they don't pass the physical fitness qualifications upon completion - then they get fired?
If Jfed continues obsessing at this rate, you can forget about the 200 new police officers this year. We're already down to 196 - at least that's what we know of.
3/12/2009 10:27:00 PM
4 more lawsuits against the City of Chicago, that's all.
Unreal. For weeks and weeks people complain about the LACK of coverage of JFed's and his idiotic ways. On this blog. Then we get an article that shows more intestinal fortitude than I've seen in a while from Daley loving Chicago Media. And some of you trash it, saying it's chablis and brie cheese and all that. I'm scratching my head and hoping no one I work with is that friggin dumb. Why bite the hand that's finally helping us get the word out?
No one can say for sure why murders and violent crimes are on the rise in Chicago ...
I can ... the minorities are killing each other more often - simple
"Why bite the hand that's finally helping us get the word out?
3/13/2009 02:30:00 PM"
So, what you're saying is that they, the media, had you at 'hello'?
Yeah, well the Chicago Mag article missed the point 2 out of 3 times.
Yeah, the cameras vs. real cops part was OK. But the author made that discussion too short and moved into Wonderland.
J-Fed being painted as being too tough on crime? The FBI being militaristic? (I nearly choked on my coffee) Criticism of BDU's? Turning CPD into the military? Intellectual blather about abandoning Community Policing and going into the professional model will mean bad things?
Absolutely ridiculous. J-Fed surrendered to the reverends almost from day one. And, the author wouldn't know what the so-called community policing and professional models if they came up and kissed him full on the lips. J-fed creating a more aggressive PD. Riiiight!
The article's lengthy love letter to CAPS? Also completely separated from reality. CAPS -- even gutted -- continues to be just a 'feel good' PR bone tossed to the public.
So, even though the article started out with some good points on cameras, it reverted to the wine and cheese, clueless, north shore, liberal target audience. If you read it in its totality, it was about 25% cameras bad/cops good, and 75% hand wringing, tearful early obituary for CAPS. Overall, it did more harm than good.
If the author had its way there would be fewer cameras, and many more cops...but they would be handing out stickers at block parties and organizing parades against homicides while Chalkie works the crowd; not actually doing what has to be done.
Although the quote about J-fed being clueless in this type of police department was right on the money.
My source is actually a friend of mine who is running the interview portion of the Marine test. Friend or not, I was pretty pissed off when I heard this. Hard work and being qualified is not what the Chicago Police Department is all about I guess. I guess if your one of the "chosen" ones it's good to know you already have the position all you have to do is show up. As for all the hard worker's, I guess shame on you.
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How is this any different than any other city job? Of state jobs?
Just the way things are done in this state.
I'm a little confused by some of the criticism above. For the record, I'm not a cop but I do work for the city and care a helluva lot about you guys. Much respect over here. The article seems to push for more cops. That's what you guys want, right? The way I read it, the article is too CAPS friendly but it, most importantly, says the CAPS cuts is just a very obvious example of JFED, overall, not believing in boots on the ground. With all due respect, it's easy to criticize, it's hard to point out solutions. When Pulitzer's post says "not actually doing what has to be done." What, exactly, is supposed to get done. I ask because, like I said, I'm a city employee and care about you guys and respect you guys. I want to know, not because I'm trying to pick a stupid fight.
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