Manpower Shortage Solved!
Oh. Wait. We're not short-handed. We have 13,000 officers!
But a "little" Bureau of Patrol item came out on Friday (of course it did - long weekend). Major points:
But a "little" Bureau of Patrol item came out on Friday (of course it did - long weekend). Major points:
- District desks are authorized 2 POs and 1 Desk Sergeant, for a total of 3 sworn personnel. No watch secretary is authorized.
- District desks in area centers (002, 005, 011, 019, and 025) are authorized up to 3 POs and 1 Desk Sergeant, for a total of 4 sworn personnel. No watch secretary is authorized.
- CAPS: Duties and functions of all officers on the second watch in the CAPS office will be reviewed. The least amount of officers necessary will be placed in the second watch CAPS office to perform necessary duties. On third watch only 1 officer will be assigned to CAPS along with the third watch sergeant. All officers released from CAPS office will be placed back on their watches for field duty.
- Lockup: Staffed by no more than 2 people on second watch and 3 on the first and third watches if arrestee intake justifies extra lockup personnel.
- Office staff: 1 district secretary, 1 assistant district secretary, 1 administrative manager, 1 timekeeper, 1 PC operator, 1 senior data entry operator, 1 clerk III, 1 tact secretary, 1 crossing guard supervisor. And if a full duty officer is occupying one of those positions, the DC will have to justify why.
- And DCs are to submit their lists by 27 May so that all freed-up officers can return to field duty on 28 May.
Office staff barely (if at all) touched. Smoke and mirrors. And when you get down to it, no real benefit to patrol.
Labels: department issues, dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
250 Comments:
who will run the gaming operation out of 019 lockup??? Oh yeah, BD retired already! nevermind!
Yee- gads!! The think-tank is at it again!
What about every other unit in the department? Will those units be monitored for inside jobs too? BS.
This should be so damn funny i'm almost pissing my pants.
To see all these desk jockey's back on the street will make my day. Especially the ones that thought they were untouchable or too good to work the streets and went to the desk/inside spot right after probation.
The other interesting thing will be to see how the cmdr's and capt's finagle the personel as to reflect them out on the street, but in reality they are still working inside.
Should be an interesting couple week that's for sure.
Hypothetically -
So the DC will have to justify why a convalescent/light duty officer is not doing the work of an able bodied person that should be on the street?
Maybe because the people in place have been there for years and know the job they are doing.
For the sake of getting the able bodied PO on the street with timekeeping experience, you should put someone who is on convalescent/light duty there that doesn't know the job?
What a Nightmare that would be!
Umm !! So the pressure will really fall on the two bid officers who don't know the AIRA system because they depended so much on bull shitting their way through like the One in the 004th District on 3rd Watch. Good, may be his Fat ass can feel the heat and retire.
OT; JUST HAPPENED TO ME
HEY SCC!!!!!!! CAN YOU POST THIS!!!!!!
WHY THE F*CK DO WE HAVE THIS FEMALE SGT. AT 35TH STREET TELLING THE MECHANICS WHAT TO DO. EVERY TIME WE GO INTO THE AREA WITH CAR PROBLEMS THEY SING THE SAME SONG ABOUT THE POOL CARS .... IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES TAKE IT UP WITH 35TH STREET. THEY HAVE HER NAME POSTED AT THE GARAGE AS SGT, T.W. 312 745 5600. WHAT A FUCKN JOKE!!!!!! HELP!!!!! CAN'T DO NO WORK IF I DON'T HAVE A CAR!!!
Oh, sure the "watch secretaries" will be returned to full duty. Yes, I believe this one.
Some of these watch secretary would be crying if they went back to the street, most especially the midnight ones.
Dugan is a douche
MANPOWER SHORTAGE IS THE MAYOR'S FAULT.
On a consistent basis he has mismanaged the tax dollars of this city.
Two huge projects come immediately to mind where good money was thrown after bad: Millenium Park, which was nearly 350 MILLION over budget; Block 37 CTA superstation - last cost on that boondoggle was around 170 MILLION and nothing to show for it, but an empty shell.
Then how about all of the monies siphoned off to contractors, special aldermanic projects, "neighborhood" groups who did not have to account for what they spent.
Take half of that and easily several hundred cops could have been hired.
Finally, the citizens have to stop voting for the mayor and his corrupt alderman, not that I believe a reformer could truly fix anything since his/her hands would be procedurally tied by the corrupt pols who remain.
COME ON MEDIA, you report on bullshit stories over and over again, but you don't keep the pressure up on the pols for the above wastefullness.
Chicago is slowly, day by day, week by week deteriorating. You look for the catastophic signs of decay, but miss how the small daily problems add up to one large catastrophe.
Mark my words, if something is not done about more police manpower and addressing the morale issue directly, you will eventually recognize the catastophe that struck the city in higher violent crime, decreased property values and lack of new business/industrial enterprises.
The WC needs a Sectary so he can sit and fuck off his tour of duty.
Ok all of you media whores currently trolling this blog...how about one of you pathetic, liberal bastards formulate a story that demands answers from the Big Man on the 5th floor and the collective "brain trust" operating out of 35th & Michigan regarding this issue.
* Ask why such shuffling of manpower is necessary if the department is staffed at the 13,000-plus as is constantly reported.
* Ask about the districts affected and the number of officers "detailed" from these districts to create useless units such as TRU, MSF and most recently, this laughable "Surgical Strike Force"
currently making appearances all over the Westside.
* Ask how much it'll cost the taxpayers when a few of the bid Watch Relief officers are put back on the street in violation of our contract, as they are entitled to time-and-a-half as compensation for being wronged in such fashion.
* Ask if Daley and Burke are willing to forego a portion, or all, of their respective bodyguard detail to help ease this "unbeknownst-to-now" manpower shortage.
* Ask if anyone that helped Dugan concoct this latest abortion ever took into consideration the following:
That busy districts often need four or more desk/relief officers to operate efficiently. For example, 011 regularly has 50-plus arrestees in the lock-up on any given day, courtesy of district officers and supplemented by TRU, MSF, Mass Transit, Narcotics/Homan Square, UIC PD, Stroger Hospital PD, ISP, A4 Detective Division, etcetera. Nevermind the continuous flow of citizens there for report purposes (a good percentage lujacked to us by neighboring districts) and literally 100's of phone calls fielded on an average watch.
Add in somebody to print and compile 20-30 court transmittals/packages for those arrestees going to court.
This includes hunting-down officers to correct incomplete paperwork, correcting/amending complaints, calling in parole violations and adding warrants and making related notifications when dude pops a warrant(s)...this even after 3-Year-Wonder-Officer- Superstar-Tact-Guy falsifies the arrest report with the standby "Name Check Clear" at the end of the narrative.
Add in somebody to dispense radios and cars for early, late and rapid roll calls and the night tactical team(s). Don't forget that daily, thorough radio audit.
Add in someone to both write and then physically I-Bond an average of 20 arrestees a day.
Add in someone to return an average of two inventories to each of those assholes I-Bonded.
Add in the officer assigned as "Station Security" to thwart any future infiltrations by uniformed ghetto youths.
* Ask why...
Oh wait. What was I thinking? You WON'T ask anything that might expose just how fucked up this City and Department is under the rule of the Mighty Shortshanks. You'll do as you're told by your master, focusing on the faux sensationalism of petty "perks" that coppers get, such as duty availability pay and preferential parking at Cubs games.
This is great for morale. I cant wait to see how the watch functions without a watch secretary. Yet all these useless units and 35th st are filled to the gills with waste. The stupidity on this department just never ceases to amaze. This department is just like the economy everyone keeps wondering when it will hit rock bottom.
Let me get this straight, 2 PO's and 1 Sgt assigned to the desk in most districts. That sounds fair.
How come then, in district 13, a VERY slow district, there are always 4 PO's and 1 Sgt working the desk during the 1st watch?
At best, 3 citizens may come into the station the whole shift.
You,re Right, what about all the P.O.s,Lt and Sgts at 35th Street? Most were put there before this Shit happened. Same bulls shit. We will continue to protect the bosses babies I know a Officer (AD) at 35th who dont even know how to classify an incident on a report 6 months or more on the streets before being hidden at 35th
HA-HA-HA!
Poor lil blonde birdie
whom worked nightly 9 to 1:30
as w/s in 025.. daddy protect her
now welcome to midnight 30-sector!
One timekeep. Officers watch your time closely. Whomever will have to be superhuman to take care of an entire district
They didnt think about the Contract violations. Lock-up on 2nd. Watch only allowed 2 people. Even if day off groups are seperate One day a week there will have to be 3 with the bid spot and 2 dentention aides. Hopefully some district will get caught right away so the grievance will get filed quick.
Interesting. With 2 desk P.O.'s, that means one in the radio room for nearly half the day, and the other calling in court notifications while trying to do the A&A's. I can't wait to see the lines forming at the desk!
dugan all the way
its a few extra bodies, give it up SCC.. I have to say it didnt go fa enough... Gun Teams, Saturation, TRU, MSF, ALL should go back to districts !!!
What a joke! I think that this latest situation is partly due to ShortShanks starting to sweat his balls off about the possible arbitration outcome. How many extra boots on the street does this give the average district? 6? 8? WOW!
OK, I just keep telling myself "10 more years. Just 10 more years and I can leave the asylum."
Very few on the blog get it. Good old USA is over leveraged and in a debt depression. There is no money.
Two facts to remember.
1. Pension fund- How much do you have in it? Probably a lot of money.
2. Did you know that the City owns your deferred comp. until you retire? That is correct. Do the research.
Now add those two items up - even those who are challenged by numbers can do that- just add total pension fund money invested + deferred comp.
Now instead of worrying about 4,000 dollars for retro, worry about the larger amount.
See , financial planning is not hard.
funny how none of this effects 3510 S Michigan... There are more bodies hidden there than the dessert outside of Las Vegas...
Way to go fuck with patrol....
so 1 desk sgt and 2 p/o's on the desk, well one of them is going to have to do radios, which will account for a couple of hours to due to all the shift changes, tact, etc...so one person on the desk, have you ever walked into the 8th district and seen the lines of people waiting for reports, especially when it rains? I know there are some out there that will say good, screw those house mouses, well you have never worked the desk, I guarantee it. Because I felt the same way until I was throw on the desk as a sgt, because nobody else wanted it... Yes it is not as dangerous, but shit happens everywhere, remember 021, 003, 001, 023, probably more, all armed men walking in the building and tried to kill any police they saw...
again rules being made about patrol from those who have been gone so long they forgot what it takes to run a watch/district...
not too much being freed -up. the desk will be swamped during the summer. the lock up guys are being put in a dangerous spot when mass arrests occur. i have an idea.. stop squeezing a depleted patrol division and hire people! 30 POs a month retiring x what? 2,3 5 years? its a joke and shortshaks media plays along.
This can't be. If I get moved out of the CAPS Office, who is going to organize the senior luncheons? Who is going to take the kiddies on their little excursions?
I will have to work the street? Horrors! Area Three can be sooooo scary.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
HOW ABOUT ALL THOSE DICK WORKING THE PHONE IN THE AREAS!!! 80K 2 ANSWER PHONES AND U STILL NEED A SGT SITTING AT THE AREA PRETENDING THEY KNOW HOW TO INVESTIGATE A CASE.
DO U REALLY NEED A SGT FOR HGS , RBT,YOUTH, MISSION TEAM AND CMO.
THEY EACH SUPERVISE ABOUT TEN PEOPLE CMON!
SOMEONE X-PLAIN TO J-FED WHAT AN HGS IS!
IF A DISTRICT ONLY HAS ABOUT 13 CAPS MEETING A MONTH WHAT DO THSES DESK DOLLIES DO THE REST OF THE MONTH? DONT TELL ME THEY ARE PASSING OUT FLIER AND HELPING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE VICTIMS EITHER.
IF THESE ASS CLOWN HAD TO RADIO IN EACH PERSON THEY HELPED YOU WOULD HAVE GOOSE EGGS ALL OVER THE CITY.
DAMN AN ALDEMAN HAS ABOUT 4 PAID SPOT BUT A DIST COMMANDER HAS 10. EVEN MORE THAN MOST DEPUTIES.
ANY IDOIT CAN INPUT CONTACT CARD AND SORT PARKERS. AND CASE REPORTS ARE BEING AUTOMATED!
REVIEW IS A GREAT GIG!
"... Mark my words, if something is not done about more police manpower and addressing the morale issue directly, you will eventually recognize the catastophe that struck the city in higher violent crime, decreased property values and lack of new business/industrial enterprises."
5/25/2009 12:42:00 AM
This looks like a paragraph from a history book on 1980' and 90's Chicago, because it's already happened.
"... You'll do as you're told by your master, focusing on the faux sensationalism of petty "perks" that coppers get, such as duty availability pay and preferential parking at Cubs games."
5/25/2009 01:48:00 AM
We get preferential parking at Cubs games ?
AWESOME ! ! !
Tell me how this lowly blue-shirt can acquire this parking ? ? ?
Wipe the entire state clean, send everybody back to the disrticts for 3 months. Then send back the people to the units as needed.
Was at 35th street about a month ago and was amazed by the amount of people "working" there. Had to be in the upper hundreds.
Look, you guys are complaining instead of showing what can be done. Citizens waiting for reports and complaining about service - give them the telephone number to J-Fed. You guys are missing the point. When things back up - Oh well, no OT and there are only 8 hours to a shift. Go home after 8 hours. The shit will be there the next day. Like I said, citizens complaining, give them headquarters telephone number and always be polite in during this.
Great idea, but it's Bullshit! I'm all for it, but it's not going to be carried out. I agree that that you don't need 4 POs on the desk and 2 or 3 watch secretaries, but I guarantee none of these house mouses will be on the street. They will just drift off into some other inside job, and it will have no effect on manpower. You watch. BTW what's with a class of 30 Sgts? 25 districts with 3 watches each means there are 75 watches citywide. 30 new Sgts is LESS THEN HALF a Sgt per watch. Brillant!
Good !! Finally a little dose of reality to some people who have been working inside-protected and forgetting what it it's like to work outside. I have to see how this plays out in 017 First watch.
Seiser has been selected to spearhead a new crime reduction unit, the Testicle Strike Force. The unit once underway will cruise all 5 areas of the city, kicking people in the crotch until crime goes down. Citizens will be allowed to forgo the kicking by paying $50, thus generating much needed revenue for the city.
THAT SHOULD CUT THE INSIDE PEOPLE IN 016 IN HALF.WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH ALL THOSE EXTRA WOMEN?
Maybe the command staff is getting ready to announce a new TRU unit. You need the bodies on the street to be able to strip away more manpower for BS units.
First you a-holes beef about all the coppers inside, then when something comes out to rectify the situation, you beef there won't be enough people inside. J-Christ!! Make up your freaking minds already..... Get on with your miserable little lives!
Time for ANOTHER well-organized, informational PICKET.
AGENDA:
Not enough PO's
Shit equipment
Too many (duh, can't take a test) merit bosses
No Contract
you mean we can't have two tact sec anymore?
6 months ago jfed said to media there was no manpower shortage. Did he lie or is he stupid?
What about the youngish desk officer who works in 020 on midnights?
He is on light duty and has been for 6 of his 7 years on the job.
He looks pretty healthy to me and manages to do long, hard workouts up in the gym when he isn't treating street officers like shit and playing on the computer all night.
I was under the impression that extended terms of light duty meant a trip to call back or some other unit. Must be nice to have juice.
This is what happens when you bring in outsiders a.k.a. J-Fed and Company to run the Police Department!
They have no clue as to what really goes on out here!
As for the Exempts they forgot what it's like to be the Police!
I believe All Exempts should work a real District desk i.e. 011 District to get a dose of reality but that will NEVER happen because they quit being the Police long ago when the got their gold stars!
What a joke! The district commanders always have and always will find a way to hide "their" people within the confines of their administrative staff. Here in 016 we have:
2 female po district secretaries
1 female po activity clerk
1 female po citation clerk
2 female po ???????? clerks
1 male po computer geek
1 male po "go-for"
3 male po review officers
1 female civilian review person
1 female district manager
2 tact secretaries
You'll see some of the above assigned to the Norwood Park parade on Monday working the holiday for time and 1/2. Not bad for a 4 hour day geting paid for 12
Great job Dugan
HA-HA-HA!
Poor lil blonde birdie
whom worked nightly 9 to 1:30
as w/s in 025.. daddy protect her
now welcome to midnight 30-sector!
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That's right. Does she know how to load her gun? I bet there isn't one in the chamber! Don't ride with her.
besides who needs a watch secretary? Pass out radios and keys? give me fucking break! Then you have to kiss her ass or else...fuck her
what they were saying at 35th was that if your supervisor couldn't justify why you were needed at 35th while on LD or CD then you will be shipped out to a dist to fill admin functions such as watch sec. The civ union filed a lawsuit and won. They complain that while they were being laid off the city was replacing them with LD and CD officers and that they were taking their jobs. So now all full duty PO will be untouched and they are looking to kick out all LD and CD po and eventually firing them because they cant perform their duties and FOP states they cant help.
Anonymous wrote: Interesting. With 2 desk P.O.'s, that means one in the radio room for nearly half the day, and the other calling in court notifications while trying to do the A&A's. I can't wait to see the lines forming at the desk!Perhaps this shift of resources is a way to "reduce crime" further by increasing the chances that the average citizen won't file a report, due to the lack of available staff in the districts.
All this is coming from Aunt B.
WHAT ABOUT ALL THE BLUE N WHITE HAVING IT EASY AT 35TH ST. WHY DO THEY NEED SO MANY????????????
oh god everybody just shut up.. no body cares about how long the line at the desk in 008 is gonna be.. im sure that mo' hayes is havin a panic attack because she is gonna have to go out on the street again.. pathetic.. you sign up to be the police, end up hiding inside so you and chappie can look at vintage furniture online, count calories on the back of the chip bag, and yell at everyone that walks in the door like your the police.. give me a break.. the only one who ever was and still is the police is buehler.. i would hit a door with her anyday.. the rest of you, enjoy never never land for the next few days, beause its back to the beat for ya!!
someone needs to ask Jfraud how many police officers are pulling BS station security duty because of bad station designs. How many PO's sitting around 35th st doing nothing. Maybe Jfraud could put one of his drivers back to patrol or are they just waiting to be merit promoted like his current driver.
I wonder why no mention of all the people sitting behind desks handling administrative duties at homan square. Ohh thats right those people have so much clout dugan cant touch them
""Surgical Strike Force"? -----------------------------
Is this true? These three words haven't made me laugh so hard since I read Joseph Heller's "Catch-22" in the 1970's! And that was an entire novel!
The only way for you Chicago Police Officers to survive your careers is to laugh at this department!
"Surgical Strike Force". I think I have an idea for a new television series! I'll have to go to my blog and do some writing on this one!
to the 011 dist desk, quit complaining, if you dont like it then go back on the street and to the comment of "a good percentage lujacked to us by neighboring districts" I cant count on twso hands how many times a day I hear they told me to come here from harrison/kedzie.
Micromanagement at its FINEST! Thank you for assessing all the needs of every District, Mr. Dugan!
I bet this guy was a home Ec major in high school.
5/25/2009 06:25:00 AM
2. Did you know that the City owns your deferred comp. until you retire? That is correct. Do the research.
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Please correct me if I am wrong. I thought that the City has possession of your deferred income contribution for thirty days and then transfers it to your Nationwide Retirement Solutions account.
I believe that Nationwide Retirement Solutions is a subsidiary of the Nationwide Insurance Company.
So, if this is true, then, the real question is what happens to your account if Nationwide Retirement Solutions/ Nationwide Insurance Company goes belly-up?
Is there any guarantee of cash funds with Nationwide? Or do we have to hope that the Federal Government will bail them out like AIG?
--Ret. Det.
TO: Harrison lifer
From: Ace Reporter Phil Schitz
Subject: Your post.
Between you and the officer who wrote about the "Surgical Strike Team", I haven't howled with laughter in a long time.
Keep sending the stories. This is great. If you get a chance, stop by my blog.
People keep worrying about the radio room. let the po's sign out and get their own radios. their doesn't need to be some asshole in the radio room. having a radio room person has always been the stupidest fucking position.
J-fed has been saying all along that the districts are NOT short manpower. If this is true, why is all this necessary. Either, J-Fed was lying or, he was lying. Someone, FOP, Aldercreature, reporter, any one, please ask J-Fed if we are short staff in the districts and if he says no, please follow-up and ask if this is so, why do we need to make all these changes.
•Office staff: 1 district secretary, 1 assistant district secretary, 1 administrative manager, 1 timekeeper, 1 PC operator, 1 senior data entry operator, 1 clerk III, 1 tact secretary, 1 crossing guard supervisor. And if a full duty officer is occupying one of those positions, the DC will have to justify why.
What will poor Genie Roy do without his trusted staff of 12? Even worse, what will poor A.M. do when she actually has to work the street? Hey A.M. now you get to see first hand all those statistics you've been typing in. And sorry honey but a big ass is not cause for light duty.
Happy to see that the desk jockeys might have to do work. It gets hard sitting there braiding your hair, eating, sleeping, and surfing the internet all night.
2. Did you know that the City owns your deferred comp. until you retire? That is correct. Do the research.
Not anymore, this was the case when DC started but thank g d they changed it. in the old days if the city went down you as a DC member became a creditor against the city like any other vendor this is NOT the case now
DC is only surpassed by the medical as a benefit take advantage of it as soon as you can
wh603
I don't get all the bitching.
"This includes hunting-down officers to correct incomplete paperwork, correcting/amending complaints, calling in parole violations and adding warrants and making related notifications when dude pops a warrant(s)............
Add in somebody to dispense radios and cars for early, late and rapid roll calls and the night tactical team(s). Don't forget that daily, thorough radio audit.
Add in someone to both write and then physically I-Bond an average of 20 arrestees a day.
Add in someone to return an average of two inventories to each of those assholes I-Bonded."
A couple of non-sworns can do 90% of this. Get the lazy ass house mouse onto the streets. Then clear out 35th St too. And yes, pull the protective detail off of Burke.
What does a watch secretary do when the next day's watch assignment sheet is finished?
Anonymous said...
who will run the gaming operation out of 019 lockup??? Oh yeah, BD retired already! nevermind!
5/25/2009 12:06:00 AM
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lol
The show was taken on the road.
In some districts this will mean drastic changes, in others not so much.
As far as my district, the desk, front office and caps will lose people and the lockup will stay the same.
I hope this is the start of trimming the fat. Too many do-nothings hidden inside and the A&As have been falsified for years, and now that have the attitude of entitlement. IT will be good that those people get pushed out.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Interesting. With 2 desk P.O.'s, that means one in the radio room for nearly half the day, and the other calling in court notifications while trying to do the A&A's. I can't wait to see the lines forming at the desk!
5/25/2009 05:37:00 AM
018 has been doing this for a few months, and it has been TERRIBLE. Just about everyone bid off the 3rd watch desk, and even guys that usually 'go with the flow' are po'd when they are assigned to the desk. One po gets to put his feet up in the radio room while the other is stuck doing all the work downstairs. And now this one person is gonna have to do the watch sec job too? wow. Clearly this is coming from a group of brass that never spent much time at a district level...
Every Watch Secretary is the WC's suck ass . None know the street anymore and are scared to hit the street . I'll bet not one Fuckin' watch Sec. hits the street in any Dist. They are all useless pieces of shit .
When in doubt f*ck with the patrol division.
Patrol, the anus of the department.
Leave 35th Street out of this until you clean up the hidden spots in each and every district. You guys always cry about headquarters and the people there and let all the useless goofs right under your nose get a pass. If you can't get yourself a "SECURE" inside spot then tough shit , deal with it.
Things may change for a little while.
Again, the brains dictate orders without even looking at the Contract!!! Just file the grievance, hit the streets and once you WIN (and this is very winnable and probably already been set by precedent) collect that big check. The only way to make you whole is to pay in cash or comp. time. Just think how the citizens are going to like dealing with some disgruntled officers, some of whom are Old School. This could be fun.
Oh wait. What was I thinking? You WON'T ask anything that might expose just how fucked up this City and Department is under the rule of the Mighty Shortshanks. You'll do as you're told by your master, focusing on the faux sensationalism of petty "perks" that coppers get, such as duty availability pay and preferential parking at Cubs games.
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IDENTIFY YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS BITCH!.....Oh wait lets see here, your in 011, you have quite a bit of time on the job, your DEFINITELY work the desk, your a south-sider (bitching about Cub's parking) and your a self proclaimed Know-it-All......Gee this isn't hard to figure out!!! westside, inside do-nothing has a new name!!!! Harrison Lifer
I'm not so sure this is a totally bad idea. There are alot of unanswered questions here and it smells a little like BS, but we've complained (including SCC)many times about there being too many officers inside. Is this a step in the right direction???
This is only going to help slow down the work further. Phones will go unanswered, lines will flow out the doors, ANAs won't be completed, etc...WHO CARES??? Let the districts crumble. If you are one of the inside people that doesn't do anything, then I'm sure it won't change when you get thrown on the street...does this surprise anyone? Let the powers that be continue to fuck up the department. 1st and 16th folks!!
Dont forget to send them to the academy for a refresher.
The thing that always kills me is that anytime "inside people" are mentioned, everyone talks about what lazy dogs they all are. Ok, some of them are. But everyone bitches that they should be out on the street and be the "real police". Imagine if that were the case..then the desk positions would probably be filled by reverse seniority. Same with w/s etc....My point is that if you didn't have people that WANTED to work in these spots for whatever reason, they would need to be filled with people that DIDN'T want to work them. Imagine working on the street everyday and then being told you are the new timekeeper or radio guy or whatever. Let the ones that want to work inside stay there and quit bitching about it...unless you would rather be forced to do it yourself.
What about all the patrolman asigned to the Areas? Does Area Three really need two Detectives and a light duty patrolman answering the phone? What are their real duties..make coffee..run side businesses...duck after three hour shifts? Truly AMAZING!!!!!!
Lets see how many foot posts get suddenly filled only to have them pulled inside do to the desk being short.. I know of a few desk people afraid to work the street by themselves.. This should be interesting.
All those desk people don't do anything anyway what makes you think they are going to do anything out in the street??
I think this is awesome. F@@K these house cats. If you want to make a police officers salary, the do fu@@ing police work.
The spots on the desk should be reserved for police officers who are either on light or convalescent duty or have more then twenty years working the street period.
Why waste the money going to arbitration. Go back to the meeting and tell them no retro, but ensure 12 percent the 3rd year and 12 percent the 4th and fifth years. This way in the long run we make more money. The few thousand on the retro is just pimp money anyway. Look forward not backwards.
1 and 2 po's on desk
1 sgt and 4 po's in caps office
what about all the po's working inside in 9
will commanders that hide po's get dumped
Again, a double edged sword thrown at patrol. While it is good to clean house of the useless officers that hide on the inside, it also puts them back on the street where they know nothing. Will they really do anything on the street? NO. Will they stay on a noise disturbance or paper job for hours? YES. Unfortunately they will be more of an anchor to the workers than anything. And also a hassle to the sgts for request for supervisor's, due to their lack of knowledge of how to 19P Dude's constant bullshit. The desk does need more people than 2 in certain districts. However, those desk people and inside people should be the workers from 20 years ago who were unable to make rank, get out of patrol or who have come back to patrol. Let the old timers work inside and on the desk, like it used to be. But that makes too much sense I guess.
To cmdr Kup in 008 said...
WOW...
But I really think that commander Kup in 008 made a wrong pick and wasted that one... Kup, great boss... great guy, we love you in 008....but what the heck were you thinking on this one??!!!!
Sorr your call from the alderman did'nt work... stop up in my office and we can talk about it ...its the one on the 2nd floor...the doors always open
Is Dugan a MOOSH or what?!?
So he's working for Shortshanks waiting for J-Fed to quit or for his contract to expire. Prior to this he could have been the light at the end of the tunnel, back to basics savior of the CPD.
But this is a terrible way to drive morale even further into the ground, as if it could go any lower. It is also dangerous, especially in busy districts where station security is a joke.
But what about Donahue? Where is he on this? How come he has never said a word in the media about the man-power shortage when J-Fed said we have 13,500 people? Even if he just said we have X number of D-1, D2 & D2A people in FOP so as to imply that J-Fed is a liar and should resign or learn to count.
Shortshanks is threatening layoffs in all city departments to garner money for his monuments, his cronies and his Olympics.
He is making layoffs in the CPD, he is making LAYOFFS BY ATTRITION.
That's the real headline scandal.
If you read that order it says that the day CAPS office is allowed up to FIVE (yes 5) police officers maximum?
Plus TWO on afternoons, now cut to ONE?
How can that be?
That's more than any dist. or area desk crew!
Plus a Sgt. for each crew? And a Lt. to boot?
Now that's insane!
At the very most, and i'm stretching this a lot, that useless office should have 1 Sgt. and 2 p/o's period.
Better yet, let civilians run it, who are paid by the alderman and work out of his office. That would free up lots of Police, Sgt's & Lt's, plus all the vehicles they command plus office space and police money.
Look at the recent transfer order!
More clouted bodies just changing places in clout units, all a
sham(wow)!
Don't worry you think getting someone into the lockup is a pain in the ass now just wait. It will take 8 hours just to get one arrest into the lockup. But then who is locking anyone up these days?
Great! Put all these goofs on the street so they can now pick up their dry-cleaning in a city car!
The only good thing about this is the DC's are going to have to keep the smart ones because there sure ain't any WC's or DC's that know how to do it!
Always remember, nothing last forever! Now you house mouses, go check your dusty lockers and see if your duty belts still fits your fat asses.
And don't forget, check off time is 10 mins after the hour.. LOL!!!!!!
Oh no, nowhere to hide the Cricket anymore. Please don't cry to the Capt. in 001 that you have not worked the street in years. You only have 13 years on and have not worked the street in many years. Remember when you thought you ran everything when you played watch secretary. Back to the street for you. Maybe when you get some seniority you can bid for the desk.
HEY SCC!!!!!!! CAN YOU POST THIS!!!!!!
WHY THE F*CK DO WE HAVE THIS FEMALE SGT. AT 35TH STREET TELLING THE MECHANICS WHAT TO DO. EVERY TIME WE GO INTO THE AREA WITH CAR PROBLEMS THEY SING THE SAME SONG ABOUT THE POOL CARS .... IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ISSUES TAKE IT UP WITH 35TH STREET. THEY HAVE HER NAME POSTED AT THE GARAGE AS SGT, T.W. 312 745 5600. WHAT A FUCKN JOKE!!!!!! HELP!!!!! CAN'T DO NO WORK IF I DON'T HAVE A CAR!!!
5/25/2009 12:22:00 AM
Thats Sgt t Williams she's been on the warpath since all of her sucking up to Capt VD ( 022) and her old man's clout got her nothing but that asshole position thanks to m Shear.
Why do you need a Sgt in fleet management anyway dump her short ass back to the district with the rest of the soon to be ex house mice!
Same Shit... Different Day... We're Doomed...
"- We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing: and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress, while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralization."
Caius Petronius - Roman Consul, 66 A.D.
Who thought this stupid crap up? They must be out of the district level for a long time. You ever see the desk on afternoons, during the week in 016? Crap, more accidents than I have ever seen. And no watch secretary? Downtown is whacked!!! Something always happens to patrol when contract talks are happening.
Hey Dugan, how about this radical thought?
Close all district stations for walk-up service on the midnight shift,
(10pm to 6am). No walk-ins and no calls accepted (except PAX calls).
Any report can be made thru 311 and ARP as necessary. The limited desk crews will be able to handle all the court transmittals, bonding of prisoners, A&A sheets, etc.
Many suburbs already do this, they close at 6pm and re-open at 8am.
Some are closed all weekends and holidays (open M-F business hours only).
If there is a rash of traffic accidents, place a car in front of the station to write all the reports.
We don't need people walking in our stations 24/7, 365.
I'm sure this will get the Mayor's attention and all the Rev's powered up to see how undermanned we are.
Because we know the media cannot or will not look into the shortage and waste around the city. They only want sensational scoops to boost ratings and viewers. Plus they like their stories spoon-fed to them to avoid too much research.
Come on Dugan and Fed man, make a real stand, (oops) forgot, your marching orders come from the putz on the 5th floor, silly, just silly!
What about every other unit in the department? Will those units be monitored for inside jobs too? BS.
5/25/2009 12:12:00 AM
Dress your attention to unit 177 the fourth and fifth floors. bring a pry tool so you can pry them away from the chairs. and look at laser while your there.
5/25/2009 03:50:00 AM
When I read this, I instantly thought of it being read by a chinaman.
Well, if they dump me out of CAPS it's no sweat off my back. You know-it-alls don't realize some of us housemice actually do some work in here! But I won't be a hater. And if I end up taking your cruiser you better not be a hater either. Because I'll WORK when I come back out, unlike most of you pooches. See you Thursday!
No not the streets!!!!!
HA-HA-HA!
Poor lil blonde birdie
whom worked nightly 9 to 1:30
as w/s in 025.. daddy protect her
now welcome to midnight 30-sector!
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That's right. Does she know how to load her gun? I bet there isn't one in the chamber! Don't ride with her.
besides who needs a watch secretary? Pass out radios and keys? give me fucking break! Then you have to kiss her ass or else...fuck her
5/25/2009 09:45:00 AM
that girl is a nut case!!!!!!!!!
Does this mean that the 1st watch skinny blond in 025 will no longer be able to sit on the filing cabinet in the watch commander's office all night talking about her wedding?? Will she actually have to be at the desk where she should have been all along?? I bet she will hide downstairs!!! She is afraid to talk to the public at the desk and she doesn't know how to write a report!!
If you don't know how they make it look like there are more po's on the street take a lopkat the AA's.
P.O Smith and P.O Jones work the desk or office or hall monitor or whatever. On the AA sheets the are assinged working beat 2608C or some other beat that isn't a geographical beat in the district.
Everyone is happy.
this is NEVER going to happen..the house mice will be on a foot post or a rapid,,then will be working inside..PUHLEESE!!! those queens of the desk will never hit the street!
how nice is it inside? Just ask T.P. - went from hide is squad by the beach car at 021 to desk boy at 021 to desk and workout bot at 35th street.
Virtually all patrolmen back to the districts. Have narcotics / gun / saturation / gang enforcement and intelligence investigations etc etc etc etc at the district level. share the same time keeper secretaries so on and so forth....
SIMPLE
You know, I never saw anyone lining up to be the watch secretary. Now I guess we'll see just how screwed up the watch can get. Better convince the watch cmdr that you can't work with so-and-so. Do you think s/he really cares? This is a bad move. Dugan what were you thinking?
2. Did you know that the City owns your deferred comp. until you retire? That is correct. Do the research.
I CALL BULLSHIT!! you did your research show us
Thats Sgt t Williams she's been on the warpath since all of her sucking up to Capt VD ( 022) and her old man's clout got her nothing but that asshole position thanks to m Shear.
Why do you need a Sgt in fleet management anyway dump her short ass back to the district with the rest of the soon to be ex house mice!
5/25/2009 02:56:00 PM
Dr. Frankenshear created this monstor! He brought her here. She had a HUGE chip on her shoulder coming into HQ from her "little gal Jane Wayne" syndrome, but he aggrandized her and nurtured her to an astronomical level of self-importance and incompetence. The ignorant chevron-toting goof believes this place cannot function without her. She will get a dose of reality if Frankenshear checks out of Motel CPD. Until then, he will keep trying to make her a Lieutenant. What a farce!
People keep worrying about the radio room. let the po's sign out and get their own radios. their doesn't need to be some asshole in the radio room. having a radio room person has always been the stupidest fucking position.
5/25/2009 11:01:00 AM
Are you serious? This would be funny to see because you would have radios missing, keys missing, everything in the wrong place. It sounds logical that coppers can sign out there own stuff but in reality it would be a mess.
Manpower Shortage Solved!
Just put me in those single digit districs for a month each,crime will plummet.However you are going to have to increase your lawsuit fund.
IDENTIFY YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS BITCH!.....Oh wait lets see here, your in 011, you have quite a bit of time on the job, your DEFINITELY work the desk, your a south-sider (bitching about Cub's parking) and your a self proclaimed Know-it-All......Gee this isn't hard to figure out!!! westside, inside do-nothing has a new name!!!! Harrison Lifer
************** Westside, Inside Do-Nothing says: Uh, no...but it's hysterical to see you hang on both my nuts and what you perceive to be my posting(s). You seem to think that you know my identity, yet you don't identify yourself. So I'll repeat your proclamation of "IDENTIFY YOURSELF YOU USELESS BITCH!" And do yourself the favor of learning reading comprehension...Harrison Lifer isn't bitching about parking at Cubs games...you fucking dummy.
When in doubt f*ck with the patrol division.
Patrol, the anus of the department.
5/25/2009 12:12:00 PM
IN THE O.W. WILSON MODE THE FOCAL POINT OF ANY POLICE AGENCY IS PATROL. ALL OTHER UNITS ARE TO BE SUPPORT SERVICES TO PATROL. WHERE DID WE GO WRONG? OH WHERE?
One of Wilson's great strengths was his firm belief in honest law enforcement. He gained a reputation as a reform chief. It was this reputation that earned him an invitation to bring professional police management to the Chicago Police. Wilson believed that corruption was the by-product of poor organization, scant planning, and tangled lines of command.
Sound familiar?
What does a watch secretary do when the next day's watch assignment sheet is finished?
5/25/2009 11:48:00
They go home early(Not to difficult to figure out)
Deferred comp- city has custody of money otherwise it could not be tax exempt.
A city in California actually tried to borrow money from their members deferred comp. They decided against it finally after a big uproar. This happened years ago.
Nationwide did not take the hit like the other insurance companies. A little more stable.
For those of you still on the job, city has custody of your deferred comp. Call them, they will give you a song and dance but do the research yourself.
Most of the detectives working the desk and answering the phones are old timers and have done their time. There experience is needed at that position to weed out the nonsense. That is more than I can say for some desk personnel.
Anonymous said...
6 months ago jfed said to media there was no manpower shortage. Did he lie or is he stupid?
5/25/2009 09:24:00 AM
I GOT THIS ONE ! --- YES ! ! ! ! !
Despite being the most heavily-taxed city in the nation, Chicago was only edged out by Detroit as "the pink slip capital" of the nation with 13,647 mass firings.
We already know that Chicago is the most politically corrupt major U.S. city--a national laughingstock.
The reaction of the electorate: They're too stupid, paid off or don't give a fuck. REFORMS?: Fuggedaboudit.
Recall, even imprisonment is not enough. Justice cries out for Chicago Democratic politicians to be dragged kicking and screaming to the gallows with Daley, Burke, Stroger, Blagojevich and Durbin at the head of the pack.
Eat shit, die and burn in Hell, you rotten cocksuckers!
5/25/2009 02:56:00 PM
She was a useless turd in 007 as well.
What about all the patrolman asigned to the Areas? Does Area Three really need two Detectives and a light duty patrolman answering the phone? What are their real duties..make coffee..run side businesses...duck after three hour shifts? Truly AMAZING!!!!!!
I thought this just occurred at Area 2, one person could do the review and summary office
Dress your attention to unit 177 the fourth and fifth floors. bring a pry tool so you can pry them away from the chairs. and look at laser while your there.
5/25/2009 03:17:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Oh, my I totally agree.
They should find out when the last time a "few" of these these people where on the street = at the end of their probation! They should check the ones detailed in there as well.
Full of useless do nothings that have no clue what a beat car looks like.
I work the desk, they think they want me on the street, i got a bad attitude
WE ARE CRYING FOR HELP TO DEPUTY SUPERINTENDENT PETERSON!!!!!! BRING KUP BACK TO VICE AS THE COMMANDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HE WILL KNOW WHAT TO DO!!!!!!!!
WE GOT BIG PROBLEMS GETTING WORSE EVERY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EVE IS LEADING ERNEST INTO ANOTHER MILLION DOLLAR LAWSUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
SAVE US!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How about this send all these people back to the district: TRU,MOBILE STRIKE FORCE, SATURATION TEAMS, GUN TEAMS, GANG TEAMS their sgts,lts, and their cars hell that outta cover the summer with no problem
Anonymous said...
Why waste the money going to arbitration. Go back to the meeting and tell them no retro, but ensure 12 percent the 3rd year and 12 percent the 4th and fifth years. This way in the long run we make more money. The few thousand on the retro is just pimp money anyway. Look forward not backwards.
5/25/2009 01:35:00 PM
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Yeah ok GENIUS.....
12% for two years MY ASS! You think the City or the Arbitrator for that matter will give us anything that high? YOU ARE HIGH!
We 'll be lucky to get 6%-8% tops any year.....MARK MY WORD!
Fuck that I NEED the RETRO...Bills have piled up over the last two years and we will get some % of a raise.....maybe close to 10% WHO KNOWS but the retro can help pay a couple of mortgages .....
Need something since there ain't no STIMULUS packages being distributed anywhere!
"... The spots on the desk should be reserved for police officers who are either on light or convalescent duty or have more then twenty years working the street period."
5/25/2009 01:25:00 PM
DUDE ! If a 20 yr veteran wanted the desk, he easily has the seniority to bid for it... THEY DON'T WANT IT !
**** TOO MANY WHITE SHIRTS ****
**** TOO MUCH BULLSHIT ****
**** TOO MUCH WORK ****
**** NOT ENOUGH FREEDOM ****
RADIO ROOM!!!
HOW ABOUT EACH SGT GATHER THE RADIOS FOR HIS GUYS BEFORE ROLE CALL!!!
THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY U HAND THEM BACK TO HIM. THE SGT DOES GET 45 MINUTES EXTRA PAY TO BE THEIR PUT EM 2 WORK.
RADIO ROOM GUY SHEESH WHAT R WE IN THE 50'S.
MANAGEMENT PERSONAL SHOULD BE DOING THE SHEET ANYWAYS! THE ALL HAVE BACHELOR DEGREES I THINK THEY CAN HANDLE TYPING!?!
What a joke! The district commanders always have and always will find a way to hide "their" people within the confines of their administrative staff. Here in 016 we have:
2 female po district secretaries
1 female po activity clerk
1 female po citation clerk
2 female po ???????? clerks
1 male po computer geek
1 male po "go-for"
3 male po review officers
1 female civilian review person
1 female district manager
2 tact secretaries
You'll see some of the above assigned to the Norwood Park parade on Monday working the holiday for time and 1/2. Not bad for a 4 hour day geting paid for 12
5/25/2009 09:32:00 AM
2 Tact Secretaries in 016???
I can maybe understand 2 Tact secretaries in faster districts where reverse stings, and other useless missions are conducted, but 2 in 016!! WTF
Anonymous said...
People keep worrying about the radio room. let the po's sign out and get their own radios. their doesn't need to be some asshole in the radio room. having a radio room person has always been the stupidest fucking position.
5/25/2009 11:01:00 AM
Let's face it. If one of these radios got in to the wrong hands, the chaos that it could cause would be catastrophic. Phony 10-1's etc.
They need to have someone to blame when a radio goes missing.
"- We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to form up into teams we would be reorganized. I was to learn later in life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing: and a wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress, while producing confusion, inefficiency and demoralization."
Caius Petronius - Roman Consul, 66 A.D.
5/25/2009 02:57:00 PM
IF WE DO NOT LEARN FROM HISTORY, WE ARE DOOMED TO REPEAT IT
MAYBE IT'S TIME FOR ANOTHER KIND OF MARCH
It has been suggested that, "It's Time for ANOTHER well-organized, informational PICKET."
The first one was great and I was proud to be there and to take part. But, did it accomplish much? Another one could be ignored by the media and Shortshanks will be out-of-town and J-Fed and Dugan will be out-of-touch.
MAYBE the thing to do is to have a different kind of march. Take a cue from the March of Dimes, organize and go door to door in our own neighborhoods. The neighborhoods that provide the most taxes and the most votes for Shortshanks and his appointed lackey aldermen. We would meet in the district stations, and then fan out to go door to door in the neighborhoods where we live and send our kids to school in small groups going on both sides of the streets. We wear police novelty baseball caps, polo shirts and logo jackets, what are the gold stars going to say about that. Just don't look like Jehovah’s Witnesses.
We ring doorbells and have flyers, telling people that they are paying all these high taxes for 13,500 well trained and equipped police officers and they are getting shortchanged by Shortshanks by only getting how many. We tell them that we need to change the administration, to call their aldermen, the mayor's office. Tell them to think about this when they vote.
Stay safe, if the same number of cops did this as did that march this might shake up Shortshanks.
why do they need a tact secretary? A watch has a lot more people than a tact team, tact never needed a secretary, and they still don't.. irregardless of whether or not you need a watch secretary. Tact sergeants can manage their eight or ten man teams can't they?
Someone please tell me how Sgt. N. Maria C. from personnel got to go to polygraph school and be the supervisor......there were many capable sergeants with more experience than just community policing that should have got this spot.....they wonder why our department is a joke
As soon as you retire, you can take every penny out of def. comp and roll it over to a retirement account at another location with no penalties, such as an etrade account, where you can play with the money to your hearts content.
The city does own your deferred comp. It is in trust to try and protect it from the city spenders. Look up 457 on the internet.
Some governments are trying to borrow against them, that is, using them as an asset.
I hope some top brass are paying attention to what is going on in Vice. It's dirty, and will be remembered. Eve G and E. Brown good luck! and get fucked!
Cant wait to see all you bitch's who gave PO's shit for handed in a time due slip. You know what watch sec were talking about: Remember the capt wants movers!
"5/25/2009 02:57:00 PM"
A history buff.
Far too few are left.
Anywhere.
That's why we truly are doomed.
I used to work at 35th. and Michigan A.K.A. HQ. Ivory Tower!
I have scene what goes on and it is a disgrace to wear this uniform after seeing what I saw!
I can honestly say that there are over 1500 full - duty, sworn personnel of all ranks in that building over 3 Watches and 7 Days.
Most are do nothing "lackeys" for various idiot bosses! I have scene them rush to wash bosses cars, pick up dry cleaning, gas up cars because the "so called bosses" don't want to get their manicured hands dirty!
These people would have a heart attack if having to go back to a watch to deal with Domestics, Piss bums and nuisance Burglar Alarms!
So quit draining the Patrol Division and put these useless fucks on the streets and in the Districts and on the Watches!
You reading this J-Pud and company!
So cry me a river!
KMA
"...Capt VD ( 022)...
5/25/2009 02:56:00 PM"
Now, this can't just be a coincidence, the double meaning is just too fucking rich.
So who is going to leave the list of who will/won't work with who for the visiting wc?
THEY HAVE HER NAME POSTED AT THE GARAGE AS SGT, T.W. 312 745 5600. WHAT A FUCKN JOKE!!!!!! HELP!!!!! CAN'T DO NO WORK IF I DON'T HAVE A CAR!!!
so dont do any work then dumb ass.....must be new
Here's a radical thought, "Hire!"
Spend some of that parking meter and Skyway money. Its worth it!
CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT AND CHICAGO FIRE DEPARTMENT WILL MERGE TO FORM THE CITY OF CHICAGO PUBLIC SAFETY DEPARTMENT.BOTH PENSION FUNDS WILL MERGE FORMING ONE PENSION FUND.FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS EXTINGUISHED 78% FEWER FIRES BETWEEN 2004-2008.FIRE DEPARTMENT ANSWERS "CALLS FOR SERVICE" JUST AS POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES.FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONAL HAVE BEEN CROSSED TRAINED AS PARAMEDICS FOR 5 YEARS AND ALL WILL BE PARAMEDIC CERTIFIED IN 6 MONTHS.THEY WILL BE TRAINED IN LAW ENFORCEMENT PROCEDURES STARTING NEXT YEAR.MANY EXEMPTS ON BOTH POLICE AND FIRE WILL BE GONE WHEN BOTH MERGE SAVING CITY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.ONLY ONE UNION TO DEAL WITH WHEN MERGER TAKES PLACE.COPPERS ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT "ME TOO CLAUSE"-WELL HERE IT IS "LADS"-CHICAGO DEPARTMENT OF PUBIC SAFETY.
Hypothetically -
So the DC will have to justify why a convalescent/light duty officer is not doing the work of an able bodied person that should be on the street?
Maybe because the people in place have been there for years and know the job they are doing.
For the sake of getting the able bodied PO on the street with timekeeping experience, you should put someone who is on convalescent/light duty there that doesn't know the job?
What a Nightmare that would be!
5/25/2009 12:13:00 AM
Sounds like your a house mouse afraid to go back on the street.......Let me guess....you have about 4 years on..... Resign and get a civilian job if you want to work in a office........... There's too many people who took this job and never did time on the street after their probation. It gets me sick.......... If your a good timekeeper....go civilian...why take up a spot...plenty of people who want to get on this job to be the police. Good example....female that works the desk in 11...where's her fto stripes.....don't recall her ever working the street.......but gets fto pay........for being a house mouse...
This is great for morale. I cant wait to see how the watch functions without a watch secretary. Yet all these useless units and 35th st are filled to the gills with waste. The stupidity on this department just never ceases to amaze. This department is just like the economy everyone keeps wondering when it will hit rock bottom.
Hey kid.....years ago we never had a "watch secretary"... department got along fine.... you must be worried about your watch secretary spot....
Interesting. With 2 desk P.O.'s, that means one in the radio room for nearly half the day, and the other calling in court notifications while trying to do the A&A's. I can't wait to see the lines forming at the desk!
5/25/2009 05:37:00 AM
Another insider cry baby............I bet you work the desk
Is Phil Schitz a honey pot?
Hey! how about trying to nudge those prima donnas from the crime lab. Sgt's pay and it takes an act of contrition to get them to respond to a crime scene. Fuck Dubiel!
We get preferential parking at Cubs games ?
AWESOME ! ! !
Tell me how this lowly blue-shirt can acquire this parking ? ? ?
5/25/2009 08:25:00 AM
We do get free parking at the 2 airports. Just call.
"Must be nice to have juice.
5/25/2009 09:30:00 AM"
You don't want that kind of juice.
Or should I say fluid(s)?
"5/25/2009 08:54:00 AM"
Only $50?
" Like I said, citizens complaining, give them headquarters telephone number and always be polite in during this.
5/25/2009 08:50:00 AM"
That's gonna hurt.
"Did he lie or is he stupid?
5/25/2009 09:24:00 AM"
Both.
"Tell me how this lowly blue-shirt can acquire this parking ? ? ?
5/25/2009 08:25:00 AM"
Merit x 3.
oh god everybody just shut up.. no body cares about how long the line at the desk in 008 is gonna be.. im sure that mo' hayes is havin a panic attack because she is gonna have to go out on the street again.. pathetic.. you sign up to be the police, end up hiding inside so you and chappie can look at vintage furniture online, count calories on the back of the chip bag, and yell at everyone that walks in the door like your the police.. give me a break.. the only one who ever was and still is the police is buehler.. i would hit a door with her anyday.. the rest of you, enjoy never never land for the next few days, beause its back to the beat for ya!!
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HA!! ABSOLUTLY HILARIOUS!! AND I AGREE ABOUT BUEHLER.. SHE IS GOOD PEOPLE.
People keep worrying about the radio room. let the po's sign out and get their own radios. their doesn't need to be some asshole in the radio room. having a radio room person has always been the stupidest fucking position.
5/25/2009 11:01:00 AM
I'll put your name on the radio log ace; then when one comes up missing you can be named on the CR# and take a few days off. 106 radios in our district, times $3000 a piece. Do the math; that's why someone is in charge of them.......dipshit...
To cmdr Kup in 008 said...
WOW...
But I really think that commander Kup in 008 made a wrong pick and wasted that one... Kup, great boss... great guy, we love you in 008....but what the heck were you thinking on this one??!!!!
Sorr your call from the alderman did'nt work... stop up in my office and we can talk about it ...its the one on the 2nd floor...the doors always open
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HEY KUP, QUIT GETTIN TUFF AND MAKIN THREATS ABOUT HOW YOUR ON THE SECOND FLOOR.. I LIKE YA, MOST GUYS DO, BUT COME ON, A HORRIBLE PIC.. AND DONT GIVE ME THIS ALDERMAN PHONE CALL CRAP.. NO PHONE CALL HERE, IM NOT EVEN ON THE SGT LIST BUT KNOW MANY MORE IMPRESSIVE GUYS THAT DESERVED THAT SPOT... SO CUT THE SHIT WITH YOUR B.S. THREATS AND CHALLENGES.
25/2009 03:02:00 PM
Anonymous said...
What about every other unit in the department? Will those units be monitored for inside jobs too? BS.
5/25/2009 12:12:00 AM
Dress your attention to unit 177 the fourth and fifth floors. bring a pry tool so you can pry them away from the chairs. and look at laser while your there.
5/25/2009 03:17:00 PM
Absolutely! try getting the crime lab to respond to a crime scene.
It's nearly impossible. And when they do; they are always late. Everyone is there waiting for these prima donnas. Shameful and ay sergeant's pay
All you house mouse’s RELAX! Just tell your commander to do what Commander G.R. does in 009th dist. On the sheets you will be assigned to a rapid response car on days. However you will never have leave the station. You can still work in caps, the office or some other inside position. You will be carried on the sheets as working beats: 951, 952, 948 or some other car. So when 35thst looks at the sheets for the 2nd watch -the watch has another 3 or 4 rapid response cars manned on days. WRONG!! Meanwhile the rest of the watch is running around shorthanded. So relax and just have your commander do what the commander of 009th dist does and you will be fine. OH, G.E. you are a slick one.
What does a watch secretary do when the next day's watch assignment sheet is finished?
5/25/2009 11:48:00 AM
1) Hang around the phone so when you call 5 minutes before I'm walking out the door looking for tomorrow off, I can re-do the sheets.
2) Fill that last minute detail by reverse seniority, so you aren't on it tomorrow.
3) Go to bat for your dumb ass with the W/C when he/she asks why you aren't on your regular car, 'cause you want to duck tomorrow.
4) Tell the front office why we don't want to give anyone up for furlo relief to another watch so you can use your time due tomorrow; (see #1)
5) Switch your partner for you after you come and peek at the sheets because you can't possibly work with so and so.
6) Any other stupid report the W/C needs to answer from 35th street.
7) Anything else the W/C needs
Get over it.
Secretary:an assistant who handles correspondence and clerical work for a boss.
Question: What does a watch secretary do when the next day's watch assignment sheet is finished?
Answer: She/He goes home.
So endeth the lesson.
Perhaps if the desk lice stopped cruising the internet all day long they could be considered useful. But even the sgt is seen playing on the computer.
Worse are the smokers who spend more time outside than inside because of their filthy habit.
TIME TO GET RID OF TRU!!!!!!! 10 hours, I mean 6 hour days....DOING WHAT?
Come on Dugan!!! Do some good. GET RID OF TRU!!!!
Dude I wouldn't want to work the desk after this proposed change! Every time I see the line at the desk in my district I cringe!
Look, you guys are complaining instead of showing what can be done. Citizens waiting for reports and complaining about service - give them the telephone number to J-Fed.
--Tell them to call their alderman and to call the media. They will get a better response!
Ha Ha
What about the district commander in 003 who has a PO with less that 5 years on the job driving her around. Put her worthless ass back on the street.
**I agree but I believe Mo and Peggy are the bid spots and will not be leaving the desk. Maryann Smith Back to the Beat!
This whole effort will ultimately put on average 5 P.O.'s back on the street per district. But how can you blatantly say this is the guide? How can you give 016 the same inside manpower as you do 006 or 007? How stupid are you?
Beyond the house mouse comments, in reality some of us inside people actually have a job to do that we really put our all into. I know, I worked the street for the past 24 years and I never once worked inside except the desk occasionally. I now do work in the office and my knees are a little weary and my heart is a little heavy from all the shit I endured in 007 and 008. I also watch my Commander work his ass off. I watch him come in at 0730 and we are told he leaves after 1st watch roll call practically everyday. He does need a lot of shit done and every day he has 5 meetings and a hell of a lot shit from 35th to address, let alone reviewing stats, reading beat officers reports, reviewing the watch sheets to ensure the WC is not fucking with the officers again, look at what abandoned buildings is doing, what missions should be done, talk to tact, talk to the CAPS staff and don't forget to talk to the Aldermen and the ministers. Did you make time for your kids and fuck the wife, she understands! This is all in a days work Commander and we will thank you at the next CAR meeting and tell you about all the shit you did not do! I told him all of this is not worth the Ranger stripes!
hey Guys, got a few questions here.
A County Guy wants to know
1) with you guys in backlog every night in a lot of districts, has there ever been any talk of having gang/tac units take calls on a regular basis. I know this kind of goes against the whole point of district gang/tac teams, but isn`t a nightly backlog a serious problem?
2)Who is supposed to get notified when there is a backlog?
3)Assuming all the equipment is working properly, can the officer in the squad car see, on his computer, the call that are pending?
Just wondering. God Bless and stay safe
Lets see how many of these house mouses retire now? Then we can all move up in senority! And get a chance to work some of the time and a half details(O'Hare and O'Bama)that they are sucking up. They arent going to be working the street anyways watch and see, they will be put on 2 person car or a traffic car assigned to the desk or some hidden car on the bottom of the sheets and then held down in the station! W/S sitting at the front desk I have to se that one. lol
hey Guys, got a few questions here.
A County Guy wants to know
1) with you guys in backlog every night in a lot of districts, has there ever been any talk of having gang/tac units take calls on a regular basis. I know this kind of goes against the whole point of district gang/tac teams, but isn`t a nightly backlog a serious problem?
2)Who is supposed to get notified when there is a backlog?
3)Assuming all the equipment is working properly, can the officer in the squad car see, on his computer, the call that are pending?
--It would make a lot of sense to assign jobs to tac/gangs/specialized units so that's why the CPD doesn't do it.
Someone will have to get killed waiting for police service before the issue is addressed.
No we cannot see pending jobs.
You will be carried on the sheets as working beats: 951, 952, 948 or some other car.
--Inspector Big Bird will be happy to take your call!
Sounds like your a house mouse afraid to go back on the street.......Let me guess....you have about 4 years on..... Resign and get a civilian job if you want to work in a office.
--No jackass I am not a house mouse and have more than 4 years on the job. I don't want someone who doesn't know what they're doing f*ing with my time and $.
"Stay safe, if the same number of cops did this as did that march this might shake up Shortshanks.
5/25/2009 06:49:00 PM"
Blue Party Ticket.
Examine the following:
XXX assigned, xxx detailed in, xxx detailed out.
How about some common sense and call for this problem to be corrected (outs are higher than ins).
Instead, stress and over work your desk personnel by knocking them down to an unsafe minimum number of personnel (to get another body or two in the District cars) instead of addressing the real problem:
There are far too many detailed out.
ok, how about an explaination on deferred comp. with all the comments, i think we need one.
thanks.
Most of the detectives working the desk and answering the phones are old timers and have done their time. There experience is needed at that position to weed out the nonsense. That is more than I can say for some desk personnel.
5/25/2009 05:39:00 PM
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Not true in Area 3. She doesn't know where to direct calls because she doesn't know what detectives are actually supposed to do. But she sure knows how to order lunches and pajamas.
With less people on the desk, who is going to enter the contact cards????
1 question where is princess A.H. going to be hidden now that the 2nd watch sec in 003 is no more ????
Glad to see change but I agree that each district should be assessed on an individual basis. Some districts are so busy and others not. I worked the desk in 008 a few times and it was so busy I could not work fast enough to help everyone. I never wanted to work the desk again. Plus now it takes forever to enter all those reports on the computer. I never knew how much bullshit paperwork is generated for 35th st., Oh and don't forget those the input of tss & contact cards too. I hate working the desk, it sucks and so does working in CAPS office. Processing all the paper we generate takes time and is boring as hell. Working a beat car is sweet compared to data entry, report writing and ass kissing all day!! These changes just mean that everyone will have to work a little a harder and being inside will no longer be a perk.
Every Watch Secretary is the WC's suck ass . None know the street anymore and are scared to hit the street . I'll bet not one Fuckin' watch Sec. hits the street in any Dist. They are all useless pieces of shit .
What the fuck is your problem? You don't know those guys, you don't know where they came from or how much street time they might have. Here's an idea, you could just worry about your own business and stop sounding like a stupid jag off
I love our watch secretary. She knew the watch inside out and knew who to put who with. I can't imagine how many "personality differences" are going to occur now.
I'll put your name on the radio log ace; then when one comes up missing you can be named on the CR# and take a few days off. 106 radios in our district, times $3000 a piece. Do the math; that's why someone is in charge of them.......dipshit...
5/25/2009 10:40:00 PM
oh god, shut up, really. another cry baby inside do nothing. officers can easily take care of signing out their radios. we take the cars out every day, we can manage the radios, trust me. dipshit!!!
That's not a 5yr PO driving the DC around. That's a 16yr old CPD impersonator.
people keep talking about getting rid of TRU, MSF, GEU, Saturation, Gun Teams and Area Tac Teams. I'm all for it. However, I do think it is a good idea having a city-wide unit that is about 200-300 strong that works 24/7 with the most POs working 3rd watch.
Hey kid.....years ago we never had a "watch secretary"... department got along fine.... you must be worried about your watch secretary spot....
Ok genius whos gonna tell u if you can get the day off. Or what if you want last minute time due. Our watch secretary is very helpful and accomodating guess yours isnt.
Dress your attention to unit 177 the fourth and fifth floors. bring a pry tool so you can pry them away from the chairs. and look at laser while your there.
5/25/2009 03:17:00 PM
Unit 177 is a micro problem of the department. It should be a Harvard Business School problem to be solved and to be used to fix the whole department.
hey Guys, got a few questions here.
A County Guy wants to know
1) with you guys in backlog every night in a lot of districts, has there ever been any talk of having gang/tac units take calls on a regular basis. I know this kind of goes against the whole point of district gang/tac teams, but isn`t a nightly backlog a serious problem?
2)Who is supposed to get notified when there is a backlog?
3)Assuming all the equipment is working properly, can the officer in the squad car see, on his computer, the call that are pending?
Just wondering. God Bless and stay safe
1)Sometimes they do take regular calls. Mostly for a priority 1 job. Otherwise, not really. But, that's if they're actually still at work or if they bother to answer the radio.
2)A Sgt. gets notified but they don't give a shit. It's just a BS notification.
3)We used to be able to do that with the old PDT's. The new ones only let Sgt's see the pending jobs.
What does a watch secretary do when the next day's watch assignment sheet is finished?
5/25/2009 11:48:00 AM
1) Hang around the phone so when you call 5 minutes before I'm walking out the door looking for tomorrow off, I can re-do the sheets.
2) Fill that last minute detail by reverse seniority, so you aren't on it tomorrow.
3) Go to bat for your dumb ass with the W/C when he/she asks why you aren't on your regular car, 'cause you want to duck tomorrow.
4) Tell the front office why we don't want to give anyone up for furlo relief to another watch so you can use your time due tomorrow; (see #1)
5) Switch your partner for you after you come and peek at the sheets because you can't possibly work with so and so.
6) Any other stupid report the W/C needs to answer from 35th street.
7) Anything else the W/C needs
Get over it.
Secretary:an assistant who handles correspondence and clerical work for a boss.
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STFU
What watch secretary has ever done anything on that list!
The watch secretary is a pet name, they should be part of the desk crew, once done passing the radios/keys and doing the oh-so-complex A&A's they should return to the desk and write reports and answer phones.
HEY PROPLE THERE IS A NEW ASS HOLE, SMILE IN YOUR FACE STAB YOU IN THE BACK LT. IN DUGANS OFFICE AND THESE DUMB ASS QUICK NON- THOUGHT OUT CHANGES SOUND JUST LIKE HIM I'V HEARD HIS RANTS. BUT WAIT,YOU MAY NOT SPOT HIM BECAUSE AS HE FUCKS YOU HE HIDES BEHIND BUYING THE ENTIRE OFFICE LUNCH,BREAKSFAST ETC... A NEED TO BE LIKED GO FIGURE
Question: What does a watch secretary do when the next day's watch assignment sheet is finished?
They leave. That's why the spot is being eliminated. Dugan hates those four hour tours.
Anonymous said...
All those desk people don't do anything anyway what makes you think they are going to do anything out in the street??
5/25/2009 01:24:00 PM
How in the Fuck do you know if you have your Dumb Ass on the street working. SOOOOO Fuck You Punk
2. Did you know that the City owns your deferred comp. until you retire? That is correct. Do the research.
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It may be offered by the city but they don't "own" it. All monies in the accounts belong to the investor. You pick the funds to invest in, you put the money in, if the funds do good you make money. If they do bad you lose money.
That money usually cannot be touched until your separation from the department, i.e. you quit, are fired or you retire. They do allow for unusual circumstances that will allow you to take out an amount form the account. You would have to go to the Deferred Comp web site to look those up.
HEY KUP, QUIT GETTIN TUFF AND MAKIN THREATS ABOUT HOW YOUR ON THE SECOND FLOOR.. I LIKE YA, MOST GUYS DO, BUT COME ON, A HORRIBLE PIC.. AND DONT GIVE ME THIS ALDERMAN PHONE CALL CRAP.. NO PHONE CALL HERE, IM NOT EVEN ON THE SGT LIST BUT KNOW MANY MORE IMPRESSIVE GUYS THAT DESERVED THAT SPOT... SO CUT THE SHIT WITH YOUR B.S. THREATS AND CHALLENGES.
Hey coward ... how about posting your name ... wait then you could not be a puss hiding behind the blog
Like I said, citizens complaining, give them headquarters telephone number and always be polite in during this.
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Polite my ass! It's a no win situation when dealing with the public. You want to report that your neighbor's dog crapped on your front lawn and they refused to pick it up? Hey, how about this....there is a little known unit known as CALL BACK. Go home, pick up your phone and dial 311. Got that? Maybe you ought to write it down.........3.....1......1. You can talk to a police officer who will take you tragic story and document it. Oh, don't worry, you will get a report number to show all your friends. You can tell them about your harrowing experience.
OK. If you didn't detect the sarcasm I'll explain it to you. On an average day, a police officer will be assigned calls such as little johnny won't do as he's told so have the police come to my house and bring their parenting skills that the average citizen seems to be sorely lacking.
Or the one I heard the other day. A car gets assigned a disturbance call. The dispatcher reads the comments over the air as follows: " Complainant stated that her upstairs neighbor's child is bouncing a ball on the floor. Complainant would like for the police to come and tell the neighbor to have their child stop."
I spoke with those officers later in the day and asked them if they talked to the complainant. They did. When they asked him why he couldn't try and resolve this issue with his neighbor, his reply was, " Well at the last CAPS meeting I was told that is I ever needed the police for anything, just call 911."
God Help Us!
Does this mean that the 1st watch skinny blond in 025 will no longer be able to sit on the filing cabinet in the watch commander's office all night talking about her wedding?? Will she actually have to be at the desk where she should have been all along?? I bet she will hide downstairs!!! She is afraid to talk to the public at the desk and she doesn't know how to write a report!!
5/25/2009 04:04:00 PM
If you are going to repeatedly post about this girl, at least do it when you are sober and space the times out so you don't look like a guy that couldn't get a date with her. Or better yet, grow a pair and have a word with her. At least stay of the blog with your personal problems. You are embarassing.
First you a-holes beef about all the coppers inside, then when something comes out to rectify the situation, you beef there won't be enough people inside. J-Christ!! Make up your freaking minds already..... Get on with your miserable little lives!
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I don't think even the Keesing Bandit would kiss your potty mouth. You are either A)a boss, B)an uninformed citizen or C) someone who has been working inside for so long you break out in a sweat at the thought of hitting the bricks.
Which ever it is, you obviously have no concept as to what is going on in this Dept so why don't you go back to sitting in front of your computer in your darken room, trolling the Internet.
Even worse, what will poor A.M. do when she actually has to work the street? Hey A.M. now you get to see first hand all those statistics you've been typing in. And sorry honey but a big ass is not cause for light duty.
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Thank you! I needed a good laugh this morning and when I read this I busted a gut!
See, these people do provide a purpose. The district I work in has a dollie working inside, one she came too after getting dumped from 35th st. A couple of weeks ago she was told that she was going to have to work a detail, on either Sat or Sun.
OH THE HORROR! This bitch, who works Mon - Fri in the Commander's office, marched right into said office and told the DC that she cannot work the detail. When asked why, the only excuse she could come up with is "I have family obligations."
She has some fucking nerve. Thank God the DC had the right attitude and told her that either she goes on the detail or she can go back to the watch.
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