Monday, May 25, 2009

1968 Reunion

The cops of the 1968 Convention Riots are having a reunion:
  • If you plan on attending, please send me your full name, number of attendees, contact information and a check. Some of those who have contacted me only gave me your email address. CPD Re-pro graphics is printing tickets and posters - I'll either mail you your tickets or have them waiting for you at the door, if you choose to prepay. Please make the check payable to Michael Mattson, in the amount of $30 per person - in the memo line please write "convention reunion." My mailing address is:

    7455 W. Seminole
    Chicago, IL 60631
    (All proceeds from the event will be donated to the Chicago Police Memorial Fund).

    A T-shirt company is designing shirts for the occasion. If you have any other ideas please let me know.

    If you'd like to volunteer for the Food Committee, please feel free to research food vendors and let me know what you find out. I've hit a bit of a wall on that one, and the clock is ticking.

    Lodge rules prohibit any bottles - all beer, wine and pop must be in cans or plastic cups. Any volunteers for the Libation Committee would be welcome as well.

    I've contacted a photographer as well. Phil Cline has agreed to attend the event, as well. Still no word from John Kass or his staff.

    Depending on the success of the event, we may make this Annual.

    Please bring any memorabilia that you think relevant - old riot gear, call boxes, photos, log-books...etc.

    Thanks again for your interest and participation in this reunion. Thank you especially for your service to the City and to your fellow police officers.
We took out Mike's cell phone number as this site is trolled by non-police. If he wants to post it in the comment section, we'll pass it along. But it sounds like a good time. Hopefully, they have a "Dunk the Hippy" tank and a "Dodge the Flying Excrement" event. Come out and party like it's 1968.

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73 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Far out man!

5/25/2009 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

30 bucks??? I could crank out 1000 of those things and sell them for 5 bucks each! And the money NOT generated can stay in your wallets! Any interest??? Post here I could see if the shop on Milwaukee would let me set up a temp table... as no proceeds are for profit of any sorts!

5/25/2009 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well now you ruined it by saying Phil was going. Why? He wasnt on the job in 1968.

5/25/2009 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do Lodge rules prohibit me from bringing my old one hitter???

Purple Haze

5/25/2009 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Date and time???

Whats the cost for extra t-shirts

5/25/2009 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a date and location would help.

5/25/2009 01:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is a late night radio show on radio 560 WIND that is pro police.
It's the Geoff Pinkus show (aka the Pinker) and he is on from midnight to 4 am.
One of his producers is a retired dic (cpd) and they do anything they can to help out the police.
If you can find a way to contact the retired dic he may be able to help out.
We have so many cop haters in the media that it is refreshing to hear a show like this. Support our own!!!!

5/25/2009 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah phatty Phil will be there to make sure the envelope for his salary oh I mean for the police memorial fund will get into the right hands.

5/25/2009 02:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when is it? where? times?

5/25/2009 02:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's the address to send the check?

5/25/2009 02:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This IS a joke, right?

5/25/2009 03:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dunk the hippy tank? those old stinkers would call it waterboarding. they took a bath as often as the todler pays his taxes. a good game would be if they had hit the head with the baton. the game with the heads popping out of the holes.

5/25/2009 07:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Phil Cline going to wear his Cadet Uniform to the event? I'd pay 50 bucks to dump that blimp into a dunk tank, as long as it goes to the 100 Club & NOT his slush fund.

5/25/2009 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dunk the hippy tank? those old stinkers would call it waterboarding. they took a bath as often as the todler pays his taxes. a good game would be if they had hit the head with the baton. the game with the heads popping out of the holes.

Whack a Hippy!

5/25/2009 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forget the dunk tank. Want a crowd? Have Bill Ayers show up and let guys "throw a punch for a hundred bucks". Now that would be a fundraiser.

5/25/2009 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interisting! I would think the youngest PO from that time would be about 61 yoa and I know for sure a hell of a lot of them are gone.

5/25/2009 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Bell Bottom Blues said...

1968?

Wow, man. I had the coolest bong back then, shaped like an elephants head, where you puffed from the end of his trunk. His open mouth was the bowl and his eye was the air hole, but I digress...

I was 15 then and more likely to be in the crowd wearing my bell-bottoms and headband and tie-dyed T-shirt than anything else. I was too young to be politically active back then, though.

I didn't know then that I would be in the Chicago Police Academy 10 years later and spend 27 years in what WAS one of the best Police Departments in the nation. Now I'm collecting my pension and wondering how you people are able to put up with the BS that you do. This mayor has destroyed the CPD and he is solely responsible for it.

5/25/2009 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dunk the hippy tank? those old stinkers would call it waterboarding. they took a bath as often as the todler pays his taxes. a good game would be if they had hit the head with the baton. the game with the heads popping out of the holes.

5/25/2009 07:33:00 AM

That gave me an idea: maybe Neil Steinberg could donate some time for a "Waterboard The Liberal" fund raiser. I'll donate the first $100!

5/25/2009 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to say “Thank You” to Mike Mattson for putting this together. As a member of the CPD during the 60s I had the opportunity to participate in most of the riots. Division St., West side, several times, Marquette Park, and the 68 Convention. The Convention was the easiest of all of them, but gets the most attention. The department never did recognize any of us for that historical period; nobody ever had the balls to do so. I can remember how well the citizens of this city treated us at that time. It was the best time to be the police. So I say “everyone is welcome” better late than never. Good place to show some solidarity. Remember a lot of us marched with you at city hall. Who knows maybe even J-Fed will come.

5/25/2009 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cool.
Gotta blast my Jimmy Hendrix, Doors and Janis Joplin 8 tracks.

KMA club member

5/25/2009 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can still remeber the smell of hot dogs at OBrien st. Just want to say hi to all the old guys from Gangs East.

5/25/2009 09:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The flying shit that the hippies flung at the coppers was initiated by one of da mayors highly contracted, big-bucks media firms. Ol man Daley "shoot to kill" is squirming in his grave knowing that jr forks out big bucks to a former hippie, now main-stream "show me the money" marketer.

5/25/2009 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Send me a check" Ya, right! Another retiree whose mind has been eaten-away by "Seven Crown

5/25/2009 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phil Cline is coming? That is all I need to stay away, unless he is in the dunk tank. Don't worry, he won't drown. Shit floats.

5/25/2009 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still love watching that 1968 riot footage. There were some major ass-beatings handed out to those liberal pukes. That is exactly what these little liberal, Obama-mania, tree-hugging, hippies need in this country Right Now.!....a good ole ass kicking from the police when they get out of line. If only we could go back to those days.....

5/25/2009 10:39:00 AM  
Anonymous jjthulis cpd rtd said...

I would be interested in purchasing a couple of shirts....who do I email/contact??
jjthulis

5/25/2009 12:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe there are still morons on this job that still bitch about Phil Cline. Phil Cline looks like a hot fudge sundae compared to the shit sandwich we're being fed at the moment.

5/25/2009 12:13:00 PM  
Blogger tito said...

id be careful dude, the fuzz, j-federino, might put a federeal case on you after reviewing tghe video, who cares if you passed on or retired

5/25/2009 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about when and where?

5/25/2009 01:11:00 PM  
Blogger Bitches In Blue said...

Its 26 Jun 09 @ FOP hall

5/25/2009 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger OLD*6970 said...

FEAR...FEAR...FEAR...

"Only thing we have to fear
is fear itself" fdr

FEAR!!!
The root cause of the 68 convention
riots...Being fueled by the media rats...
April rioters aligned with antiwar
activists with a band of bored students, scared da old mayr.
He then scared them and nothing but a riot could happen. The rest is history that paints a distorted reality of what really went on during the incidences that took place at that time.
CPD still feels the affect this has
on it's image...

FEAR is the most powerful tool that
RULERS have and it used constantly.

FEAR DIVIDES...
We all know the Result of that...
We live it every day...

UNITED WE STAND...

Just Sayin...

5/25/2009 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jon Burge would pack them in.

Phil Cline will send them packing.

5/25/2009 02:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like our t-shirt (Denver PPA).

"We get up early to beat the crowds."

5/25/2009 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't believe there are still morons on this job that still bitch about Phil Cline. Phil Cline looks like a hot fudge sundae compared to the shit sandwich we're being fed at the moment.

5/25/2009 12:13:00 PM

Agreed. Cline was the police and knew what this job is really about. He had to do his job as supe which for anyone is going to involve politics & bs but he put more bad guys away during his career than most here and always supported real police work.

5/25/2009 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was a hippy in 1968, and I beat down a skinny cop with my bare fists in Balboa Park. I then became a cop many years later. I wonder if that skinny cop will turn up for this. I'd buy him a beer.

5/25/2009 04:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey all you old Head-Konkers;

thanks for kicking ass on those radical commie-hippie assholes decades ago. They all still voted for Obama I'm sure, and that proves you guys were right, way back then.

5/25/2009 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bell Bottom Blues said...

1968?

Wow, man. I had the coolest bong back then, shaped like an elephants head, where you puffed from the end of his trunk. His open mouth was the bowl and his eye was the air hole, but I digress...

I was 15 then and more likely to be in the crowd wearing my bell-bottoms and headband and tie-dyed T-shirt than anything else. I was too young to be politically active back then, though.

I didn't know then that I would be in the Chicago Police Academy 10 years later and spend 27 years in what WAS one of the best Police Departments in the nation. Now I'm collecting my pension and wondering how you people are able to put up with the BS that you do. This mayor has destroyed the CPD and he is solely responsible for it.

5/25/2009 09:11:00 AM

Dave? If this is you, I am surprised the bong wasn't a donkey because there was not one conservative sliver in your being! that is

5/25/2009 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phoney Phat Phil Cline STILL SUCKS...

5/25/2009 04:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still love watching that 1968 riot footage. There were some major ass-beatings handed out to those liberal pukes. That is exactly what these little liberal, Obama-mania, tree-hugging, hippies need in this country Right Now.!....a good ole ass kicking from the police when they get out of line. If only we could go back to those days.....

5/25/2009 10:39:00 AM

I am a cop and you think it was a good thing to see the young people beat up in the streets of America? I don't think so.

Also, you must be so damn tough in your riot gear, helmet, baton, sticks, tear gas, gun, paddy wagon, and tons of back up. Cops like you crack me up. You stand up for the establishment that is screwing you over!

5/25/2009 05:07:00 PM  
Blogger James said...

SCC
If these t-shirts become available, will you post the location/link where we may view/purchase them?
Thanks

5/25/2009 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's truly disheartening that good intentions by retirees get misdirected by some Money grubbing thief like Cline, who bamboozles these old salts into thinking the Memorial is actually legit...

5/25/2009 06:24:00 PM  
Anonymous ol' skool said...

How many of you will ever experience the sheer ecstasy of delivering a well-deserved wood shampoo?

5/25/2009 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I can't believe there are still morons on this job that still bitch about Phil Cline. Phil Cline looks like a hot fudge sundae compared to the shit sandwich we're being fed at the moment.

5/25/2009 12:13:00 PM


HO HO HO HO HO --- I GET IT !

the shit sandwich we're being "fed"

FED ! J-FED ! HO HO HO HO !

5/25/2009 07:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this just for Coppers who were there? I would love to attend and hear some stories, toast some heros.

5/25/2009 07:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe Phil could donate some of his $190,000 a year salary he gets from the Police Memorial Fund to help pay for TShirts, food and pop?

5/25/2009 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Find some place other than fop hall and you get a great turn out. Don-o-hoe has sold his soul (or whats left of it) to city hall. Also with the all the attention on police and driving, have a designated driver.

5/25/2009 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gallup poll showed most americans supported the cpd in 68
ms katz(sds) is rich from cpd pr contracts n is this close to obama
old man daley would come from the grave is she was in club the student radical
c everyone at the party

5/25/2009 10:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would pay extra to be able to beat hell out of Jerry Rubin and the dug up corpse of Abby Hoffman.

If any other of the Chicago 7 would like to show up for a beatdown and mouth smashing, it would be a sweet touch.

5/25/2009 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great idea Mike! I'm glad to see that you are setting this event up. Many of those P.O. that were involved in the riots will definitely be greatly appreciative of your committement to this cause. Keep up the good work and inspiration.

"Pre"

5/25/2009 10:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I told my partner, I said grab your club and come out swinging, because we would rather fight than roast". "Some citizen, I dont know who he was, i wish i could thank him...he jumped out of his car with a small pinch bar and started helping us, otherwise they would have killed us or injured us more than they did."
Direct quote from:
Robert Garvin, Cpd wagonman
1968

5/25/2009 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How many officers are still on the job that were in the '68 Convention? Can't be many.

5/26/2009 12:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Cline is going to be there they should hold the event at Old Country Buffet.

5/26/2009 01:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HO HO HO HO HO --- I GET IT !

the shit sandwich we're being "fed"

FED ! J-FED ! HO HO HO HO !

5/25/2009 07:03:00 PM



yeah......THIS guy is a Detective all right.Ya can tell.

5/26/2009 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed. Cline was the police and knew what this job is really about. He had to do his job as supe which for anyone is going to involve politics & bs but he put more bad guys away during his career than most here and always supported real police work.

Was he supporting the police when he was hugging Rev Meeks after the Sgt that did nothing wrong pulled the Rev over. Was he supporting the police when he agreed to get a salary and a car for running a charitable organization that he started, after already collecting a six figure pension from the city.

5/26/2009 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was a hippy in 1968, and I beat down a skinny cop with my bare fists in Balboa Park. I then became a cop many years later. I wonder if that skinny cop will turn up for this. I'd buy him a beer.

5/25/2009 04:54:00 PM

You did WHAT????? You need to find that POLICEMAN and personally apologize to him. Then MAYBE you will be forgiven.Maybe.Until that happens you are lower than whale shit to me.

5/26/2009 01:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a cop and you think it was a good thing to see the young people beat up in the streets of America? I don't think so.


It was BEAUTIFUL footage. And sorry when you attack the police thats what happens. In your candy ass world what would YOU do? hand out pamphlets and lattes? Ah....you arent worth the stress.And you're a cop? yeah ok.

5/26/2009 02:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forget the dunk tank. Want a crowd? Have Bill Ayers show up and let guys "throw a punch for a hundred bucks". Now that would be a fundraiser.

5/25/2009 08:39:00 AM

I'd pay $100 in heartbeat to take a swing at this commie bastard

5/26/2009 05:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Agreed. Cline was the police and knew what this job is really about. He had to do his job as supe which for anyone is going to involve politics & bs but he put more bad guys away during his career than most here and always supported real police work.

5/25/2009 04:33:00 PM

number of Patrol Carbines deployed on the streets under Phil Clines tenure = Zero

5/26/2009 05:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nope, you ruined it by saying John Kass was invited...

5/26/2009 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, you must be so damn tough in your riot gear, helmet, baton, sticks, tear gas, gun, paddy wagon, and tons of back up. Cops like you crack me up. You stand up for the establishment that is screwing you over!

5/25/2009 05:07:00 PM

You must be one conflicted, confused guy. I'm betting you weren't a very good Police Officer. One more thing, "lighten up Frances".

5/26/2009 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was recently asked about my feelings concerning the 68 convention and my reply was: "Everyone who came to the convention was able to go home after it ended.
Match our record against Kent State where the N.G. managed to end the lives of four students who were not even in the protest."

5/26/2009 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was a hippy in 1968, and I beat down a skinny cop with my bare fists in Balboa Park. I then became a cop many years later. I wonder if that skinny cop will turn up for this. I'd buy him a beer.

5/25/2009 04:54:00 PM

Never happened son. Maybe a group of you and your friends got away with pushing a cop and running away, but a one on one 'beat down' only happened in your drug induced mind.

5/26/2009 11:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Cline is coming I will not be there!

The money raised should go to the members of the Marquette 10 who are still alive.

Cline still has not given a good explanation of his involvement in this case as far as I am concerned.

5/26/2009 12:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a cop and you think it was a good thing to see the young people beat up in the streets of America? I don't think so.

If you are a cop, you know it's never a nice thing to see people beaten on the street. Real violence is always more disturbing than the "movies". My bet is you were not there. You probably were not even around during those years or were very young. To really know why all this happened you had to know the "times" we lived in. All the previous riots we were involved in, the snipers, the burning the long hours of stress. Dr. King had been assinated just months before, tremendous violence when that happened. Threats about what was going to happen to Chicago during the convention, many, by people now running this country. I have to admit I was a little nervous, so was the rest of my tact team. We knew what riots were all about and what could happen. Look I don't expect you to understand what it was really like, I guess you had to be there, but before you make ridiculous statements come out and talk to some of us "old guys". You might learn the "real story". They don't teach it in school you know.

5/26/2009 03:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Dave? If this is you.."

--5/25/2009 04:57:00 PM

"Hey, man, it's Dave. Open the door quick and let me in. I think the police saw me."

"Dave?"

"Yeah, man, it's Dave."

"Dave's not here."

&c.

5/26/2009 08:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a cop and you think it was a good thing to see the young people beat up in the streets of America? I don't think so.

Also, you must be so damn tough in your riot gear, helmet, baton, sticks, tear gas, gun, paddy wagon, and tons of back up. Cops like you crack me up. You stand up for the establishment that is screwing you over!

5/25/2009 05:07:00 PM

********************************

Its highly doubtful that you are a cop. Baton,sticks ? WTF?
If you ever wore a unifrom it was as a doorman at some condo building.

5/26/2009 09:47:00 PM  
Anonymous X7 LEO said...

I was on the job back in 1968, although not in Chicago. We had our share of riots and unrest after the King asassination and some assorted hippie flareups.

To you younger guys it is hard to explain how it is one of the high spots of your career. Its what you train for for years, and may never get to experience a wholesale, out of control riot that lasts for several days.It is like a video game, only with real bullets.

To say you are scared is an understatement. When it is over, to those who survive it is a bonding event to be shared by only those who were there. If you were a house mouse you were never considered to have "been there"

Besides, you get to argue based on experience which is best: Hickory, cocobolo or micarta nightsticks!

5/26/2009 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They called it a police riot, What the hell are you proud of? What are you commemerating? 1968 was the beginning of the end. It crossed the line. "The whole world was watching." You gave an inch, they took five miles, smart guys. Ask Marilyn Katz, she flung shit at you, you made her a millionaire. Send me a "tee shirt".

5/26/2009 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

number of Patrol Carbines deployed on the streets under Phil Clines tenure = Zero

Yeah Daley finally allows there purchase and deployment, after Cline is gone, Weis is in charge and the city is a war-zone. I know this, if Cline would have been allowed to deploy them, there wouldn"t be any power test nonsense, you would have been trained and carrying them, period.

5/27/2009 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Send me a check" Ya, right! Another retiree whose mind has been eaten-away by "Seven Crown

Just what do you mean by that, Kid.

5/27/2009 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Besides, you get to argue based on experience which is best: Hickory, cocobolo or micarta nightsticks!

5/26/2009 10:18:00 PM

hickory makes a distinct "crack" against oh lets say for example a FOREHEAD,is a hard durable wood,and can dish out many a thumpin.

Micarta,while light and durable doesnt produce that "chicago style" crack.

Cocobolo(I made gun grips for my SW 4006 out of this type of wood)is hard,durable,and evenly balanced in a night stick. It is the easiest wood to sand teeth marks out of.
A while back PDT printing,across from the old 008 Station,had a night stick screwed into a finished board with a small plate beneath it that read "Democratic Convention Chicago August 1996" I immediately found the subliminal humor in that and bought one. There were a few "gel heads" in the store at the time and they didnt get the humor of the item,but the "old timers" there did.Today it sits mounted on a wall in my apartment adorned with Patches,ribbons and miniature badges from various agencies and is a conversation piece when I and the "old school" sit around drinking and eating grilled steaks. While it wasnt a high point in my career,it was a high point for the Police. From a time where Command lead you INTO the battle instead of to a safe place to "strategize" over latte while yapping on a Black berry. Like Ive said before when the smoke cleared and the dust settled PEACE RESTORED. And I may be dating myself but those that remember "Rusty" the Mounted Patrol Horse,know that there was Plenty of Hippy Ass embedded in those horse shoes. Simply put that was an ERA when you stepped up no questions asked as opposed to re-gelling your hair and asking permission to go into the mix.

5/30/2009 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do Lodge rules prohibit me from bringing my old one hitter???

Purple Haze

5/25/2009 12:30:00 AM

Duuuuuuude.....meet me at the evidence locker,cough cough, i got something for your one hitter cough cough......



Old Narcotics Guy....(hahahahaha)

5/30/2009 01:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

number of Patrol Carbines deployed on the streets under Phil Clines tenure = Zero

5/26/2009 05:27:00 AM

Cline V. Weis:


Cline,
EACH time you saw him at a podium there was an inordinate amount of drugs or guns behind him on a table and VERY PROUD Patrol Officers standing there WITH him. He EARNED the RIGHT to wear a Command Uniform and EARNED the respect of the Patrolman.

Weis: Looks buffed and dashing in his one size too small Polo Shirt and couffed hair.Im sure the neurotic Fed Educated wiggly eyed bastard could be a spokes person for all Gel Heads everywhere.

And while Phil ballooned up at the end,he represented our efforts in the field. Weis in a police uniform is OFFENSIVE to me and the other working police out here.
And yes,Cline succumbed to the politics FORCED on him by The Lil Greasy Bastard. Weis needs fill in make up to cover the oral stretch marks he sustained just trying to keep his 300 thousand plus a year position. If Weis is the face of the "new" chicago police department we're doomed.

Semi Old School Class of 1982.
Gray but by no means OLD.


Ever stop to think that Carbines WERENT needed then?

5/30/2009 01:21:00 PM  

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