Abbate Guilty
Duh:
A Cook County judge today found Chicago Police officer Anthony Abbate guilty of aggravated battery for his 2007 attack on a female bartender, saying that even if the woman pushed and shoved Abbate to get him to leave a restricted area, "that did not justify his actions afterward, which were completely out of proportion."
Earlier in the day, Judge John J. Fleming, presiding over the bench trial, acquitted Abbate of two lesser charges of official misconduct.
Thank goodness we've now seen the last of that video! It was getting tedious.
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posted by SCC at 3:56 PM
89 Comments:
I am glad this case is over. Now, it's time for the government to kick out this Polish bartender. She is here illegally (she came into this country on a work visa and overstayed, just like a lot of people do).
It's time for her to go. Go back to Poland you lying fucking bitch! You got two good officers of beat 2514 in a lot of trouble because of your lies.
Same judge who let some shithead go from a pistol case because he said he was going to attend college in the fall. Guess what? Shithead still not in college but that stern speech fleming gave to that jagoff must've really worked since the next time I grabbed him, he only had dope on him but no gun. Was Abatte guilty? YES. Should he spend the next 364 days in jail? YES. Was it aggravated battery? NO. If he wasn't a cop, would any of us gotten charges approved? NOT A CHANCE IN HELL. Got to love the double standard we get to live by. Abatte, you're a worthless fucking jagoff who needs a good prison style ass whipping.
Thank goodness we've now seen the last of that video! It was getting tedious.
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It will live on forever at youtube and be trotted out periodically.
Self defense?
Let us all hope that this will be the end of it, the video, the "story," the whole sensational aspect to it — made to only sell to the people in the ghetto.
Let us all hope that they, the MSM, will now focus on the health of Officer DC from 22, and the pending funeral of Officer AV.
These fine two police officers are a much better representation of what a true, CPD, Officer is all about.
It is not some fat slob who was only on the job because of clout, or a drunk from Bridgeport who also had clout, or even a commanders kid who likes to drink and drive but also has clout.
These 2 brave officers far and away out weigh any of the misdeeds by the other, clouted, three disgraces to the CPD.
Just once again proves that there is a double standard for Police and for shitheads. No I dont like the guy and im not defending him at worst he committed a misdemeanor thats all.
I am now going to call the asa for every battery case where a weapon is used. A barstool, stick or whatever. I had cases where peoples heads were split open and the dics wouldn't even come out. This girl had no injury she was walking around without any sign of injury right after the attack and even worked the next day. How the fuck is that not a simple battery? Bitch is just looking to get paid. I can't blame her because the city will just give her a few hundred thousand to settle and everyone knows this.
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DALEY DECLINES TO CALL ON INDICTED ALDERMAN TO STEP DOWN AS POLICE CHAIRMAN
Daley defends indicted ally
June 2, 2009 12:30 PM
Mayor Richard Daley today declined to call on indicted longtime ally Ald. Isaac Carothers to step down as chairman of the City Council's Police and Fire Committee.
The Tribune's Clout Street reports that Daley said, "In America (you are) innocent until proven guilty. Like anything else, he has a right to defend himself."
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com
/clout_st/2009/06/daley-declines-
to-call-on-indicted-alderman-to-
step-down-as-police-chairman.html
At least it's over and will allow us to grieve.
Im quite sure we havent seen the last of that video. EVERY time a copper fucks up we will see it again. Now a dead woman turns up in oak forest and her ex husband is the suspect. Prblem is he was CPD but fired in 1997 for shoting her in the hand. YEP FIRED IN 1997 and still mentioned in the story that he was a chicago police officer.
It's getting 'tedious'?
Are you serious?
Just because he's a cop, doesn't mean you have to pretend like this wasn't seriously wrong. That video was painful and tragic.
A grown man beating the tar out of a little woman. If that were your mother or sister I think you'd have something more to say about this. Abbate deserves to rot in jail, he's a pathetic excuse for a human being and it's frightening to know that he was once one of Chicago's finest.
I make no excuse for his behavior, but agg. battery is way out of line. Every bar fight should now be put to felony review.
He made his bed, now he can sleep in it...in prison. Watch the hammer come down with several years in prison.
DUMB ASS!
A felony conviction for that is wrong. Once again this is the double standard rule, where police officers are subjected to extraordinary punishment.
Good decision. Can we move on now?
You should really read the CCSAO's arguments concering Abbate's official misconduct charge. Thank G-D the judge didn't buy their political bullshit.
Prosecutors argued that police are held to a "higher standard so when they commit crimes they are automatically guilty of official misconduct."
This is a really sad attempt by the State's Attorneys Office. In making this argument they are confirming what all police officers in Cook County know, ASA's are bottom 1/3 of their law school class, political hack lawyers who obviously have a hard time reading and understanding the ILCS.
Would somebody please let these poor excuses for lawyers that the Illinois Constitution and the US Constitution doesn't say that just because you are a police officer you are held to a different criminal standard.
Good thing Judge Fleming saw right through the feeble minded prosecutors' argument. By the way, anybody could have tried and convicted Abbatte on the battery charge so don't pat yourself on the back too much.
I wouldn't make any arrests anymore and hopefully the lack of work will bring about a cut in the CCSAOs workforce and we will actually get some intelligent attorneys who will adequately represent the citizens of Cook County.
best thing that could have happened... a not guilty would have brought up the "preferential treatment for the CPD" nonsense... Hopefully this horses ass sees some jail time otherwise it's gonna start up all over again!!!
Hello, his defense this tiny woman attacked him. Fucking pussy!! Hope someone beats the fuck out of him in prison.
I thank God and the judicial system that there is still justice for victims of morbid stupidity.
I hope his sentence is severe. Abatte's behavior has cast a pall on my beloved department.
send the bully away
And, if Mr. Abbate wasn't a PO, there would probably have been no case to begin with....or a slap on the wrist as a misdemeanor. What a joke! Remember that the State's Attorneys are not your friends.
I say we ALL pitch in and get this fucktard a LARGE ECONO SIZED jar of Vaseline, as Im sure he is gonna need it. Buh bye ASSHOLE.
who cares? really? it's finally over is right
Give him what every other ag batt. conviction gets, probation! He has already ruined his career disgraced his family and CPD
I WISH we were done seeing the video. We still have the sentencing to get through.
The video would have been the lead story last night on NBC if it hadn't been for the death of an officer. Should we say that they showed "decency" by waiting until about 10 minutes in?
Have you missed the next scandal brewing? Norberto Rodriquez' wife was finally divorcing him and she ends up shot multiple times and in the trunk of her car. How much will it matter that the Dept. fired him for domestic violence 10 years ago? Nope, if he's charged, it's still going to be all about ex-cop kills his wife! Move over Drew Peterson.
Yes,glad this is over. Hickey is a good guy. Must have been hard telling the judge that Tony was getting his ass whipped by the midjet. How did he do that with a straight face?
Who was Rip Van Winkle walking with stupid to and from the courthouse?
Adios pendejo.
As per the news---Abbate 250 lbs.? Uh, I think he's closer to 350.
4:11 makes a good point. How does an illegal alien (yes , there are other illegals other than mexicans in this country) get the constitutional rights and luxury as a U.S. citizen? She should be deported and not be allowed to file any civil litigation. I am not defending Abatte, but she had no business being here in the first place. Now, let's get on with mourning our loss of two brother officers.
I am now going to call the asa for every battery case where a weapon is used. A barstool, stick or whatever. I had cases where peoples heads were split open and the dics wouldn't even come out. This girl had no injury she was walking around without any sign of injury right after the attack and even worked the next day. How the fuck is that not a simple battery? Bitch is just looking to get paid. I can't blame her because the city will just give her a few hundred thousand to settle and everyone knows this.
6/02/2009 04:25:00 PM
You've had a long day Tony. Leave the rest of the beer in the fridge and go to bed.
Off Topic;
Indicted Ald. Isaac Carothers (29th) should not be asked to step aside as powerful chairman of the City Council’s Police and Fire Committee because, “in America, you’re innocent until proven guilty,” Mayor Daley said today.
Silly,silly,just plain silly.
Good riddance. You sir dishonor the profession and the fine Police Officer that was killed in the line of duty yesterday with your face on the front page.
A Blue Star
It's time for her to go. Go back to Poland you lying fucking bitch! You got two good officers of beat 2514 in a lot of trouble because of your lies.
6/02/2009 04:11:00 PM
What lies? I did not see any lies on the tape of that baboon Abatte whooping up on her.
Today, the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals (Easterbrook, Bauer and Posner) affirmed Judge Milton Shadur's decision against the plaintiff NRA v. Chicago and Oak Park.
For particulars, go to www.ca7.UScourts.gov, click on "Decisions" (left column) and enter Case No. 08-4241 (or 08-4243 or 08-4244).
I am certain that the NRA will appeal and the Supremes will grant a writ of certiorari. If you read the decision, you will probably agree.
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May shooter Shawn Gaston and Kevin Walker burn in Hell. Merciful lethal injection should be reserved for beloved dying pets in pain, not these savages.
R.I.P.: PO Alex Valadez, 007
Yes,glad this is over. Hickey is a good guy. Must have been hard telling the judge that Tony was getting his ass whipped by the midjet. How did he do that with a straight face?
6/02/2009 06:42:00 PM
Hickey might be a good guy, but he is a horseshit lawyer. He lets his clients call all the shots. Rember Herman the German? Sex assault case? The German had an acquittal in the bag, then Hickey put him on the stand. RESULT: 20+ year sentence. Hickey blows.
This is a really sad attempt by the State's Attorneys Office. In making this argument they are confirming what all police officers in Cook County know, ASA's are bottom 1/3 of their law school class, political hack lawyers who obviously have a hard time reading and understanding the ILCS.
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Bottom 1/3? That's generous. Remeber, ASA's are all from the shittiest law schools as well.
Abatte got screwed because he was a police officer.
But, Abatte did so much damage to this department I could care less. Abatte set the stage for the SOS over-reaction by the State's Attorney and the media. It set the stage for wrongful charges against the PO's at Jefferson Tap. It set the stage for the comming of Weis and the piss-poor managment creation that followed.
All these problems started with Abatte. Now this deparment is damaged beyond repair. Abatte let ever police hater and social malcontent point to that damn video and say, "See. All Chicago Police are like that."
All by himself, this usless excuse for a police officer changed this job forever.
I hope he rots downstate on the trumped up charges that put him there.
As a Police Officer, he should be held to a higher standard, and he was. He will loose his job and his pension and start his life over as the penniless drunken slob that he is. If he were a doctor, plumber or Indian Chief I doubt he would have been charged with anything more than the misdemeanor. Trust us, no one is happier than the real Police Officers in Chicago that he is off the job.
We are not sticking up for him when we say the agg battery charge is over the top. It cheapens the charge to call it agg batt when the bartender wasn't hurt. We see incidents every day where people are severaly injured and the offenders are not charged with aggravated battery.
I hope the citizens understansd this when we say this is out of line, but we are happy he was convicted.
But the best part is that he will prob get jail time. But the two pieces of shit that were responsible for the P.O.'s death get a pistol case and the other and armed robbery and get probation. This fuckin court system is an embarassment.
Don't get mad at the defense lawyer, and don't get mad at the ASAs. Its over. THANK GOD!
We need to pray for our bros from007 and 022.
Are you serious?
Just because he's a cop, doesn't mean you have to pretend like this wasn't seriously wrong. That video was painful and tragic.
A grown man beating the tar out of a little woman. If that were your mother or sister I think you'd have something more to say about this. Abbate deserves to rot in jail, he's a pathetic excuse for a human being and it's frightening to know that he was once one of Chicago's finest.
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Whatever F*cktard posted this has no idea why we are posting what we are, so here's a road map. The ONLY reason Abatte was charged with a felony is because he was the police. Most of his drunken haymakers missed, and this woman had no sign of injury much less great bodily harm. On the flip side, I had a woman who was not the police plow a steak knife through another woman's cheek, and no felony charges were approved. So in summary: Police-felony for a few punches, shithead-misdemeanor for a stab wound that required surgery and caused a massive facial scar. Get a clue pal.
The chubby looser shoudn't have been on the job to begin with. Fire the people who hired him. There is no excuse for what he did. He should be taking his anger out on the gangbangers.
Just because he's a cop, doesn't mean you have to pretend like this wasn't seriously wrong. That video was painful and tragic.
A grown man beating the tar out of a little woman. If that were your mother or sister I think you'd have something more to say about this. Abbate deserves to rot in jail, he's a pathetic excuse for a human being and it's frightening to know that he was once one of Chicago's finest
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yeah he might have been... but what does it have to do with the other 13000 police officers..nothing. everytime they say its a chicago police officer they are labeling every officer as a bad guy and as a woman beater.. its just media trying to trump up some bullsh*t.. and if this was average joe at a bar it would be simple battery with a misdemenor court date.. abbatte is an assho*e and deserves punnishment, but agg battery is over zealous prosecution.. but oh well, he is a jagoff and deserves what is coming to him
a real man never hits a woman
he'll be someone's bitch in prison
a disgrace to the uniform
Off topic:
Regarding Dugans controversial order of last week where he cut the desk crews city wide and also kicked out some C.A.P.S. and Commanders people I see Gene Roy is not wasting any time going back to his old ways. A.B.,one of his dollies who was tossed out onto the mean streets, was assigned to bt.934 today but lo and behold she was held down on reports for the entire tour per Cmdr Gene Roy.
Every sworn P.O. was trained to be a police officer if they can't handle that then they should resign. Poor little Aura has had her cozy little world shook up by being tossed out onto the street. No more 4 hour days or wearing blue jeans whenever she wants...the audacity of Dugan!
She's paid her dues.. I think she might have 5 years on and at least 3 of that has been inside.
Once again a tiny women gets away after pummeling an inebriated oversized man.
This sickens me.
Is there no justice?
I do have to give his attorney a "shout out" though for creativity. That was one hell of a narrative he created. Poor Anthony. He was the victim.
The ASA's argument that whatever an off duty cop does is "official misconduct" was creative too.
I'm not sure which attorney should receive the MVB award. Most Valuable Bullshit in this case.
OT: DALEY DECLINES TO CALL ON INDICTED ALDERMAN TO STEP DOWN AS POLICE CHAIRMAN
Question: Why didn't the FOP ask for it publicly? IMHO- What he enacts as that chairman affects the rank and file.
Because the District of Columbia is administered by the federal government, the 2nd Amendment applies. But the states have greater powers to protect citizens then the federal government, the judges ruled Tuesday.
IT SURE IS WORKING OUT HERE.
This is just the final note in a fucked up career. Abbate should have been fired years ago. Ask around, he was no good for a long time. This was not an aberration. This is how he lived his life.
"In making this argument they are confirming what all police officers in Cook County know, ASA's are bottom 1/3 of their law school class...yada yada yada."
My family history is rich with police officers and therefore, I've always felt a special affinity for the men and women in blue. I also understand that while I hold no animosity toward the police, the same can't be said toward me: an ASA. That's fine. I get it. Some cops have had bad experiences with ASA's - Lord KNOWS that even *I* have had bad experiences with ASA's myself. So usually, I ignore comments like the above, but something has to be said: to consistently paint ALL ASA's as "law school hacks" is, to borrow a word from SCC, "tedious" at best, and idiotic at worst. Just like the vast majority of ASA's do not believe ALL cops are pieces of shit, e.g., Abbatte, I'd hope that most cops don't view us ALL as your enemy. Do you have dogasses amongst your ranks? Do you have lazy POS's getting promoted for political reasons? Guess what? So do we!
I'm not suggesting we get together and sing kumba-fucking-ya anytime soon, but for me, personally speaking, I will go to bat for a cop any time. I will continue to work hard to work WITH you to see that justice is done. Anything less just wouldn't be acceptable in my family. You're all entitled to your opinion, of course, but maybe next time before spouting nonsense re: the intellectual acumen of most ASA's, stop and think; realize that our orders come from the top - like yours. We have shit personnel - like you. We're not that different. My naive hope is that we can work together - especially to crush those two jagoffs who took one of your own so tragically.
My prayers are with the fallen officer and his family - especially his pregnant fiance. As a mother, my heart goes out to her and that sweet child.
God bless.
anyone know anything about the shooting in 011... was it 011, msf, or tru?? i just read on the news three officers were taken to the hospital.. any info please share
Remember: No Abbate = No J-Fed
Abbate has singlehandedly destroyed the morale and Command Staff of this Department.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I am glad this case is over. Now, it's time for the government to kick out this Polish bartender. She is here illegally (she came into this country on a work visa and overstayed, just like a lot of people do).
It's time for her to go. Go back to Poland you lying fucking bitch! You got two good officers of beat 2514 in a lot of trouble because of your lies.
6/02/2009 04:11:00 PM
Here is some additional background about this case. The Polish bartender is alleging that she told the two responding P.O.'s (J.K. & P.M. of beat 2514) that Abatte was a cop. BULLSHIT. J.K. and P.M. did the paper and wrote down all of the facts. I work in 025 and these two guys are honest and good P.O.'s. No fucking way would they "cover up" an incident like this.
This woman/bartender is lying in order to extort money out of the city. Does she have a conscience? Poor P.M. and J.K. are going through a lot of stress and mental anguish. J-Fed considered firing them but the worse case scenario is 60 days with no pay!
Once again to Ms. illegal Polish "immigrant" bartender, do you have a conscience?
was there a police involved shooting tonight about 2300 w madison???
It is NOT ok to hit women folks. Repeat - It is NOT ok to hit women. It is not ok to get so shit-faced drunk off duty that you lose your mind and beat up a bartender, let alone a female one. We take an oath - you all remember doing that on that stage at the end of the academy? We take an oath to uphold the laws NOT break them.
This guy needs to do some time. He won't learn a damn thing I'm sure because he still doesn't think he did anything wrong but at least it will keep him out of the bars for awhile.
OT: I think I figured it out!!!
We do have 13000 officers out there...The city just counts everybody twice!!
The day you walked into the academy, no matter how long ago it was, everyone told you that there was a double standard when it comes to being the police. If you didn't get that speech you obviously missed alot of class and therefore don't belong being a cop in the first place. If you fuck up and you are on the job you are going to be crucified! So please stop already with the whining about a double standard. I have been on the job the better part of 18 years and it was that way when I came on. If you are afraid of it then you should go do something else and leave it to the real police to do the job. The simplest way to avoid getting in a situation like Abatte did is to use common sense, don't over indulge and if you realize you have a problem seek help. Quit bitching and about the double standard because all the bitching in the world isn't going to change it. Now shut the fuck up and man up.
IF CARUTHER WAS ON A WIRE FOR A YEAR WOULDNT THE MOLE AT HEADQUARTER BE ON THE WIRE.
U KNOW THE GUY WHO SPILLED THE BEANS ABOUT THE MISSING IAD COMPUTERS?
GO FIGURE?
CMON J-FED THINK OUT THE BOX U HAVE AN OFFICIAL LEAKING INFO TO A CIVILIAN ABOUT CONFIDENTIAL INVESTIGATION DOES IT MATTER!
AND WASNT HIS BROTHER MERIT PROMOTED IN THE LAST YEAR! DID CARUTHER AVOID TALKING TO HIS BRO!
IT WOULD SEEM KINDA OF WIERD IF ALL OF A SUDDEN HIS BROTHER DID STOP TALKING TO HIM WHEN HE WAS WIRED.
DO THE FEDS CARE?
COMMANDER OF HGS JUST LIKE A GUY CALLED BURGE MANY MOONS AGO IS THAT REALLY SMART J-FED!
IT MAKE ME THINK R FEARLESS LEADER IS ACTUALLY TRYING TO DESTROY THE DEPARTMENT....
NOT ENUFF TROOPS POLICE SHOOTINGS EVERY WEEK CMON!?!
Wow! States Attorneys that actually went for the highest charge the law allows? I always thought they were retarded. Turns out they are just lazy. If only they could prosecute shitheads the way they do cops.
Hey, SCC, it's OK, it is what it is.
Anybody ever worked in a bar or spent enough time in one knows that behind-the-bar is just plain NO-GO. Plenty of bartenders have grabbed/pushed/shoved drunks back outta there. It is The Way Of The Tavern.
Humiliated drunk often 86d, told to come back tomorrow when he's cool again, etc. Given every chance to get hold of hisself and be a gentleman. Often they do, leave quietly, and come back in the door the next day with A. an apology to the employee and B. a "set 'em up." Was having a bad day, you know? Life goes on.
Go off on the bartender like that, not surprisingly there'll be worse trouble.
That's the way it broke down...glad it's not me. I'm home having a cup of good strong English tea.
Prosecutors argued that police are held to a "higher standard so when they commit crimes they are automatically guilty of official misconduct."
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Really? That's interesting because I was talking to a buddy of mine who told me that the ASA who showed up for a job he was on would not accept the witness statements that he put together because she told him, "everybody knows police lie", so they would not stand up in court. She told him that she would interview the witnesses and write her own witness statements.
Abatte got screwed because he was a police officer.
But, Abatte did so much damage to this department I could care less. Abatte set the stage for the SOS over-reaction by the State's Attorney and the media. It set the stage for wrongful charges against the PO's at Jefferson Tap. It set the stage for the comming of Weis and the piss-poor managment creation that followed.
All these problems started with Abatte. Now this deparment is damaged beyond repair. Abatte let ever police hater and social malcontent point to that damn video and say, "See. All Chicago Police are like that."
All by himself, this usless excuse for a police officer changed this job forever.
I hope he rots downstate on the trumped up charges that put him there.
This state is most accurate post, tells it the way it reallt is.
Aggravated Battery... For that!!!
Please... gimme a f*ckin break. I though he had to cause permanant damage or disability for that. What the hell.
I've actually arrested people that stabbed someone, really good too, and only got charged with simple bat. This system is so skewed against us it's sick.
p.m. and j.n. from 025 if they decide to stick with the time they gave you, then get a good lawyer to suppoena court records.She testified in court that she didn't know he was an officer.
My family history is rich with police officers and therefore, I've always felt a special affinity for the men and women in blue. I also understand that while I hold no animosity toward the police, the same can't be said toward me: an ASA. That's fine. I get it. Some cops have had bad experiences with ASA's - Lord KNOWS that even *I* have had bad experiences.............
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most cops realize the ASAs are on the same team but the political nature of our jobs and incompetance on both sides causes friction.
It is NOT ok to hit women folks. Repeat - It is NOT ok to hit women.
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YES, yes it is Ok to hit a woman. I'll hit a woman as hard as I'll hit a man given the right circumstances. I once had a broad swing a bagfull of "D"-cell batteries at a Sergeant's head because he was in the process of arresting her son for PSMV.
You want to know what I did? I punched that bitch squarely on the bridge of her fat fuckin' nose. I watched as her knees and legs turned to jello, her legs buckle and her fold to the ground like the sack of shit she was. I didn't hold-back, didn't pull my punch...just rocked that bitch's world like she'd never seen before.
You want to fight a man? Be prepared to get hit like a man, by a man. I had no problem punching a woman prior to that day, THAT day, nor will I hesitate to lay out a broad that thinks she's got balls anytime in the future. As of this posting, I've never met a chick that I couldn't beat up!
So, fuck you, Mr. "It's not Ok to hit a woman".
I'm guessing your wife wears the pants in your household, correct?
A grown man beating the tar out of a little woman. If that were your mother or sister I think you'd have something more to say about this. Abbate deserves to rot in jail, he's a pathetic excuse for a human being and it's frightening to know that he was once one of Chicago's finest.
6/02/2009 04:43:00 PM
Yes, I would have something to say. You betcha!
First, I would be shocked if my mother or sister or daughter were stupid enough to put themselves in harms way like the bartender in this incident. She had access to a telephone before placing her hands on Abatte and should have called 911 instead of trying to woman-handle a drunk. To me, it was like being dead-right in a traffic accident. You have the right-of-way, but get killed by the guy blowing the red light. On its face, she was not incorrect in trying to keep a drunk non-employee from getting behind the bar, but she was stupid, very stupid, for not sizing up the situation and foolishly attempting to physically keep him from doing so.
Second, watch the video with a discerning eye. You said, "A grown man beating the tar out of a little woman." Hardly. Does Abatte ever connect? Does the bartender suffer any injuries? Did she have any wounds? A concussion? Was she mamed, lacerated or permanently disfigured? Did she sustain a hearing loss? Or suffer double vision? The answer is no to all of the questions. She alleges she lost some hair, but it must not have been permanent because her head of hair looks to be fine. She now says she is afraid of Abatte. Look at the video. She tried to push him around and did not look afraid in the least.
And the kicker. When did she seek medical attention for her contrived, mythical and non-life-threatening injuries? The answer: the next day, after she saw, not stars, but the dollar signs.
Say what you want about Abatte, I do not even know the guy, but look at this whole thing objectively, not hysterically, with a discerning eye, and it is a travesty that he was found guilty of aggravated battery. It is a simple battery at best. Public opinion and hysteria stuck it to Abatte. I predict his conviction will be over turned on appeal.
For a police officer to get aggravated battery approved, he would have to be missing a limb, and even then it is a toss up if Felony Review will approve an aggravated battery charge. The charge of Aggravated Battery in the Abatte incident is simply ridiculous.
Rip Van Winkle walking out of court with Abbatte was his father. Why get a gussied up for court dad, its only a bench trial?
"....I'm having a strong cup of English tea...."
Could I possibly interest you in one of my famous white wine spritzers?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Abbate is guilty as hell. He clearly assaulted that woman and I cant believe some of you guys actually carry water for him.
All these problems started with Abatte.
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I don't think you can blame Abbate for the problems.
If that situation had been handled better, it would not have been such a huge issue.
City government is a cesspool of corruption and the police department is at least in part a reflection of that government.
You can't really reform the PD in Chicago, or do much to improve its sorry image without first dealing with King Daley's crime syndicate.
"Aggravated Battery... For that!!!
Please... gimme a f*ckin break. I though he had to cause permanant damage or disability for that. What the hell."
Wouldn't a unprovoked attack resulting in a broken nose satisfy that requirement & the subsequent finding of guilty be expected under these circumstances?
You want to know what I did? I punched that bitch squarely on the bridge of her fat fuckin' nose. I watched as her knees and legs turned to jello, her legs buckle and her fold to the ground like the sack of shit she was. I didn't hold-back, didn't pull my punch...just rocked that bitch's world like she'd never seen before.
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I can't stop laughing! wow I needed that.
Anonymous said...
Rip Van Winkle walking out of court with Abbatte was his father. Why get a gussied up for court dad, its only a bench trial?
6/03/2009 05:51:00 AM
His ftaher is a great guy,like you would not support "your kid" your wrong calling out the Father goof!
p.m. and j.n. from 025 if they decide to stick with the time they gave you, then get a good lawyer to suppoena court records.She testified in court that she didn't know he was an officer.
6/03/2009 12:26:00 AM
It's always better to know your facts. Guess what? Now that the tape is in court people can see it. And there's a soundtrack to it! Hmmmmmm....what do you think she told the cops on tape when they were there? Hmmmmmmm...
"most cops realize the ASAs are on the same team but the political nature of our jobs and incompetance on both sides causes friction.
6/03/2009 12:35:00 AM"
Well said.
Anonymous said...
Off topic:
Regarding Dugans controversial order of last week where he cut the desk crews city wide and also kicked out some C.A.P.S. and Commanders people I see Gene Roy is not wasting any time going back to his old ways. A.B.,one of his dollies who was tossed out onto the mean streets, was assigned to bt.934 today but lo and behold she was held down on reports for the entire tour per Cmdr Gene Roy.
Every sworn P.O. was trained to be a police officer if they can't handle that then they should resign. Poor little Aura has had her cozy little world shook up by being tossed out onto the street. No more 4 hour days or wearing blue jeans whenever she wants...the audacity of Dugan!
She's paid her dues.. I think she might have 5 years on and at least 3 of that has been inside.
6/02/2009 09:25:00 PM
Wow, what a sad life you must have to worry about everything A.B. does. She is a great person and has always been willing to help me with anything i needed. She's also a very pleasant person to be around. Very funny and nice.
Maybe the reason that she has a "nice spot" is b/c of that. And the reason that you have 25 years on and still working a bt car in 009 is b/c you are a miserable prick that nobody wants to be around, let alone give a cush spot to.
Obviously you're a little b*tch tattle tale and have to come on here and rat people out, what a great personality you must have. I bet bosses are falling over each other to try to give you a nice spot... shaa right!
Who gives a damn about how agg batts are normally charged. This stupid drunken jag off's behavior has done more damage to CPD than any previous scandal in the last 50yrs. No matter what his sentence is, it will never ever equal the damge he caused. Who the fuck decided that taking the stand and claiming self defense was his best option?
I am glad this case is over. Now, it's time for the government to kick out this Polish bartender. She is here illegally (she came into this country on a work visa and overstayed, just like a lot of people do).
It's time for her to go. Go back to Poland you lying fucking bitch! You got two good officers of beat 2514 in a lot of trouble because of your lies.
6/02/2009 04:11:00 PM
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HEY DOUCHEBAG - - -
The department offers some anger management training.... why don't you get yourself some????
Who was Rip Van Winkle walking with stupid to and from the courthouse?
That was his father!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's time for her to go. Go back to Poland you lying fucking bitch! You got two good officers of beat 2514 in a lot of trouble because of your lies.
6/02/2009 04:11:00 PM
What lies? I did not see any lies on the tape of that baboon Abatte whooping up on her.
6/02/2009 08:06:00 PM
Let me explain to you what happened. Since I work in 025 and was there and read the paper that 2514 did.
Beat 2514 P.O. J.K. and P.M. are at a local store and Belmont and Long. A citizen approaches them and tells them that "a big guy is beating up the bartender at Jesse's Short Stop Inn". The bar is a half a block away from Belmont and Long.
So the two officers respond and they also get the job over the air. When they arrive, Abbate is gone. So 2514 writes up a report and even sends out a flash message. Other responding units are touring the area looking for this shithead.
Now after a few hours, some of Abatte's friends visit the bar and demand the video tape/disc from the owner and demand that the bartender does not press charges. Or else they would get the bar owner and the bartender in deep trouble. At this time, Karolina the Polish illegal bartender finds out Tony Abbate is the police. JACKPOT.
Thus now she makes up the story that she told beat 2514 that she recognized him as an off duty police officer. And 2514 didn't write this fact down in their paper.
That is total bullshit. P.O. J.K. & P.M. did what they were supposed to do. There is no way these two fine gentleman would stick up for a piece of shit like Anthony Abbate.
Now this woman is suing the department and CPD alleging that 2514 tried to cover up for Abbate. And these two fine officers might be given 60 days suspension.
Gave the police a black eye indeed. But agg battery would have never been approved on joe schmoe. It would have been a simple batt in misd court. What were her permanent injuries? Nothing.
As for the bartender, if she is truly illegal, what gall is it of her to get her ghetto lottery. Another illegal feasting off the American tit. Bruising at best....were there any ET photos taken right after the incident? NOT. Whatever happened to her reported "domestic" that happened shortly after the bar incident? Media forgets to report on that one. Please take your money and get the hell out. I hope immigration knocks on her door. They should also go after the bar who hired her. Gee, how was she paid? Any taxes taken out?
I hope every dic calls felony review for agg battery on any type of bar brawl and demand that felony charges be approved. We should post on this forum all calls to felony review for agg batt charges and get the name of the felony review asa who disapproves. Be sure to indicate the injury on the victim.
As for Abbasshole, ("waaa I need a drink") you are an arrogant jerk and time to stop your drinking and act like a human being. Thanks for putting us on the map worldwide with your thug antics. Glad you won't be wearing the uniform again.
Dan said...
Abbate is guilty as hell. He clearly assaulted that woman and I cant believe some of you guys actually carry water for him.
6/03/2009 07:30:00 AM
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Where do you find anyone carrying water for him? We all think he should be fired. We all think he is guilty and should go to jail. The only problem we have is that when we call felony review for a crime that is 10 times as bad as what he did we never get felony charges. The double standard because he is a cop is amazing and he was not on duty or in uniform. Trust me, we see a lot worse than that everyday but since the participants are not the Police no charges. Only when the ASA can get face time on TV are charges approved.
I am glad this case is over. Now, it's time for the government to kick out this Polish bartender. She is here illegally (she came into this country on a work visa and overstayed, just like a lot of people do).
It's time for her to go. Go back to Poland you lying fucking bitch! You got two good officers of beat 2514 in a lot of trouble because of your lies.
6/02/2009 04:11:00 PM
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HEY DOUCHEBAG - - -
The department offers some anger management training.... why don't you get yourself some????
6/03/2009 01:55:00 PM
I am not the original poster, but 6/03/2009 01:55:00 PM, you are an absolute jagoff. Why don't you shove a douche bag up your ass!
And to 6/02/2009 04:11:00 PM, you are on the money. You are not angry. You are just correct. Some people just cannot handle the truth, like 6/03/2009 01:55:00 PM.
On 21 March 2007, a complaint was registered with the Independent Police Review Authority (IPRA, formerly known as the Office of Professional Standards), regarding an incident that occurred in the 25th District, in which four (4) Chicago Police Officers responding to the scene of a battery, allegedly failed to report the misconduct of a fellow department member. Based on video footage and on corroborating witness statements, IPRA recommended to “SUSTAIN” multiple allegations that the accused members failed to report the misconduct of a fellow department member, were inattentive to duty, disobeyed a written/oral direct order, and made a false report. IPRA recommended a sixty (60) day suspension for each of these accused members. As to the other two (2) accused members, IPRA recommended that the allegations that they failed to report the misconduct of a fellow department member, were inattentive to duty, disobeyed a written/oral direct order, and made a false report be “UNFOUNDED” because evidence indicated that the other two (2) accused members did not receive information relating to the misconduct of the fellow department member.
The Tribune's Clout Street reports that Daley said, "In America (you are) innocent until proven guilty. Like anything else, he has a right to defend himself."
Did he ever say this regarding the police ??
SCC, it's definately time for a name ban on Abbate. Please, I'm beggin' here!
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