Saturday, September 12, 2009

Unacceptable Delay

We reported this on 28 August.

The media picked it up after charges were filed on 31 August.

Now it's being addressed by J-Fed?
  • Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis on Friday denounced as “reprehensible” — and demanded severe punishment against those responsible for — a 911 dispatch delay that left an off-duty police officer to fend for himself while being shot at by a car filled with alleged gang members.

    “This incident is just reprehensible. We had an officer [who] needed assistance and he didn’t get it…on the street….He was pretty much on his own for quite a few minutes…He had to go to [a police] station and that’s where he received assistance,” Weis said.

And the head of OEMC?
  • Ray Orozco, executive director of the city’s Office of Emergency Management and Communications, agreed that a message must be sent to the dispatcher and supervisors who allegedly bungled the 911 call.

    “This is a very serious allegation and we take it seriously. This is officer safety…If the allegations are sustained, the discipline will be appropriate with the violation,” he said.

    But, Orozco stressed that his investigation was not triggered by police complaints.

Sure it wasn't Ray. The dispatcher was working the console 99 and he was sleeping. Plain and simple. And we don't really care who he's related to, he needs to be fired.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me guess it was one of Cortez Trotters fellow parishioners. And gee thanks Jody it took you how long to comment. Once again Jody day late and a dollar short. Your act of actually pretending like you give a fuck is so lame and rehearsed.

9/12/2009 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Officer Tool said...

A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.

9/12/2009 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was not working today but several said the off-duty officer involved in the shooting in 3 had the same thing happend today. I am sure someone will have all the facts, but if true it is again disgusting

9/12/2009 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

or it was NO accident. possible a ex shithead from 26th street at oemc? HDO and gang member alderman from little village.

no one is that fucking incompetent.

9/12/2009 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with you 100%.....from a dispatcher that does have officer safety as the #1 priority! The supervisor should also get axed.
Stay safe.

9/12/2009 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Ultimate Tactical Warrior said...

GENESIS

Hello out there my fellow gang and tac warriors. (If your a blue shirt, please don't read this.) Since I've been seperated from my wife, I've been staying in my mom's basement. Being back home makes me reflect on my father (former CPD) and what he taught me. I remember as a kid running home from school to sit on his lap while he regaled me with his tales of working narcotics, and searching the asses of Simon City Royals for bags of crack. It's because of my dad, that I wanted to become a tactical officer.

Unfortunatly, my dad was fired from the force in the mid-eighties. While vacationing in San Francisco on furlough, he got busted in a cheap motel room, high on LSD, stabbing a chicken and a transvestite he had picked up off the street for the night, with a machete. You know how this job is, because of politics, he got launched. Not letting that get him down, he practiced as a dancer for two long years. His life long dream was to be one of the back up dancers on the hit Broadway show, "Cats." My father didn't make the cut, and sadly, ended his own life. He threw himself into a giant meat grinding vat that made the breakfast sausage patties for a certain fast food chain. I won't say the name of the chain restaurant, but it rymes with McDougals.

I still have the "Chicago Bar" he left me in his will. I think of him all the time when I use it to scratch myself, smack PERPS upside the head, or use it to pry open doors on search warrants executed on retired cops so me and my tac team can get there guns. Anyway, enough about me. To all my fellow gang and tac and Delta Force officers, be safe out there!

9/12/2009 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Gilda Radner's Ghost said...

When I first looked at this post I thought it said "Unacceptable DALEY".

Boy, I had a bunch of shit to say about that Stuttering Prick!!!

Then I realized the post was really about "Unacceptable DELAY"...


Ohhhh?


Well then...


Never mind!
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9/12/2009 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:
Is the 30% sgt meritorious thing in our contract or is it something that can be changed by J-fed or Daley?
Just wondering b/c to have 30% of our leader made by clout instead of passing a test is sick.

Also, how are all those promotions going that J-fed promised at the beggining of the year in his Pax 501?
Has anything this guy PROMISED us actually happened?

9/12/2009 01:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This job that promised all these different options and careers paths and promotions has become such a dead end job with zero possiblities to advance or get into any specialties.

I took the last sgt's test and did pretty dam good but the once promising light of a promotion has dwindled to barely a flicker amongst this non promoting regime. They've only made 110 sgts of the list in almost 3 years. It's sickening. I don't even know why i let myself get my hopes up.
The det's list is just as bad.
Now even if you score way up there you can't even get a promotion.
So what's the point???

9/12/2009 01:59:00 AM  
Anonymous RepublicanCowboy said...

I have a friend that has his name in for a job down there, no clout, but he does appreciate the police. Not to mention the fact that he is a hard working son of a bitch. Whether this guy is fired or not, hire some more working people up there!! This situation was bullshit, and if that asshole was getting overtime, as many down there do, then it is bigger bullshit.

9/12/2009 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT - Did Mauer get dumped today?

9/12/2009 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, so we give J-Fed a one-day pass for calling this one right. It's a no-brainer -- right up his alley! :)

9/12/2009 03:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT--no equivocal response here:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-wi-robberysuspectsho,0,6647069.story

but then it's not Cook County...clean shoot decision made within 48 hours.....

9/12/2009 03:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We heard that the dispatcher in question did not think the call was important and was waiting for beat 1013 to clear from his job to assign it, then he boasted to his colleagues on how nothing is going to happen to him because of coarse his daddy is a boss on the job. HOPE YOU READ THIS MOTHERFUCKER I ALMOST LOST MY BROTHER BECAUSE YOUR INABILITY TO DO YOUR JOB CORRECTLY ITS EASY TO SIT YOUR ASS BEHIND A BOOTH IN CLOSE QUARTERS MAYBE ONE DAY YOU'LL FIND YOURSELF IN SOME SHIT AND I LL TAKE MY TIME GETTING THERE. YOUR NOTHING BUT AN ARROGANT PRICK CLOUTED BABY WHO'S ASS SHOULD BE HANDED TO ACCORDINGLY. MUCH RESPECT TO ZONE 3 DISPATCHER'S AND THOSE IN THE OEMC THAT CARE FOR OUR WELL BEING. P.S FOR ALL THOSE WHO DONT KNOW HOW LONG THIS ASSMONKEY SAT ON THE 10-1 CALL IT WAS 8 MINS.

9/12/2009 04:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The head of the 911 floor, who neglected to take any action against the employee, is a retired cop, so lets not think if it was all police officers it would be all better. What you need are people who appreciate their jobs and work, whether they are police, retired police, or civilians. And Jody piling on, another blatant effort to show he has the policeman's backs, is laughable.

9/12/2009 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dump these dumb civilians and bring coppers as dispatchers who knew the area we worked!

Any copper with more than 15 years on remembers having Sworn Police dispatchers and Supervisors!

The people running 911 dispatch are a bunch of worthless bozos who know nothing of police work!

9/12/2009 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ray orozco you're a big nosed self promoting shameless hack. I witnessed the way you acted on some haz mat and crime scenes. Embarrassing. Man up, you suck up.

9/12/2009 07:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember when dispatchers use to be Chicago police. 911 calls were handled quickly and professionally. The dispatcher knew exactly what to ask and how to handle each call. They knew what a 10-1 was. Now you can hardly understand some of these call takers when they get around to answering the phone. They also ask some of the most idiotic questions. We have what we have now because Daley didn't want to pay police salaries to man the 911 phones. This was another one of Daley's blunders.

9/12/2009 07:13:00 AM  
Anonymous TheNinthWarrior said...

Ultimate Tactical Warrior said...
GENESIS
YAAWWWNNNN...not funny. You're rapidy becoming the Ultimate Tact Bore-rior.

"searching the asses of Simon City Royals "
I think you want a tact guy to search your ass. You have some kind a tact fetish there, boy?

"my dad was fired from the force ...he got busted...stabbing a transvestite"

Like father like son. That apple didn't fall too far from the tree.

"me and my tac team can get there guns"

Why don't you get "there" spell check while you're at it?

9/12/2009 07:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dispatchers were sll sworn at 11th and state. 2-3 per counsole. Majority had 10 plus years on the streets b4 they got to "cos", "cc" room. Many were light duty. the same 2-3 worked the same zone/watch and were as knowledgeable about the district the bad guys and danger zones as any district copper. They would come to the watch parties and treated with respect (most of them anyway, human nature). Station assignments to hq included an obligatory visit to the cc toom and a quick greeting and usually drop off coffee and donuts. (some abused this too) we were first name basis, they knew us as individuals and had walked a mile in our shoes.

i worked in 012 during the transition to oemc and the calltaker/callgiver system. I toured the facility with it's state of the art tech, kithcen and gym. the ceiling light is a replica of ND U class ring stone facets.

Chaos reigned during the transition. Hard feelings on both sides. The coppers transferred out to districts but kept D2 pay after arbitration.

Baked Alaska and Caviar when we need meat and potatoes.

I propose that todays dispatchers do a month in the academy and another 30 working days as a ridealong b4 they get to the class house. Grade/evaluate like the ppos too. Tho, I don't want to drive them, will cut into my routine...

9/12/2009 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

got rid of the old system way b4 9/11

9/12/2009 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"...Has anything J-Fed PROMISED us actually happened?"

9/12/2009 01:47:00 AM


He said he's got your back and he slipped a knife right into the back of Officer COZZI...

That ACTUALLY HAPPENED!

9/12/2009 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to officer Tool:

sgts don't get drunk, against general orders/rule of conduct. they lead by example.

9/12/2009 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it was us not responding to a domestic battery fast enough we would be fired and burned in effigy.

9/12/2009 07:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait till Monday boys & girls The Scumtimes will show how the unions have are backs!! NOT!!! Money for their City pensions ,from our union dues!!!

9/12/2009 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

many dispatchers are very good. i ve called the zone many times and enjoyed yapping with them. most are ''on the ball''. some have big attitudes and talk down to PO s at every chance. some have problems doing 2 things at once. funny, i dont remember any of guys at 11th/state needing a ''time-out room''to cool off from job stress.

9/12/2009 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It used to be almost all Police dispatching. It was great, they knew the officers by name, knew the streets and probably worked in that area before they went downtown.
But they were not clout hacks. Opened the new center and they hired some of the retired police. But, someone saw the huge patronage angle, and the retired police were no longer of value. Since I left, I do not know if there are any retired police left

9/12/2009 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“This incident is just reprehensible. We had an officer [who] needed assistance and he didn’t get it…on the street….He was pretty much on his own for quite a few minutes…He had to go to [a police] station and that’s where he received assistance,” Weis said.

(((((((((((((((((((((( * ))))))))))))))))))))))


What's REALLY reprehensible is that a big city Mayor hired this idiot to run it's Police Department knowing that he has had the same amount of Police Academy training classes as a Campfire Girl!!!!!

9/12/2009 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would like to pass on a suggestion to all the poice that read this blog. Place the desk number to every district that you pass thru on your way home onto your cell. The desk has a radio and can get on the air instantly. Stay safe.

9/12/2009 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I, for one, still have great confidence in the ability of almost all the dispatchers at OEMC. So someone dropped the ball in this incident, and the spanking is commencing. Let's not get too self-righteous. That radio, and the people at the other end of it, our our lifeline, and I give my thanks to them for the wonderful job they do. Their Dept. has organic issues too. And yes, young one, once-upon-a-time we ran the radio system with PO's from the Communication Operations Section - COS. They did alot of filtering at call intake and often went home with alot of dispatch cards in their pockets, on jobs that were not a police matter. Now we repond to everything. The technology hasn't improved the process much, if at all. And in this "10-1" incident the call taker (PO)would have remained on the line or the actual dispatcher (PO) would have picked up directly and talked to the ODPO throughout the incident. You see how they improved on that, right? So it comes down to; police communications, such a good idea we'll take it from them and create a new department. Motor maintainence, such a good idea we'll take it from them and create a new department. Finance, such a good....Personnel, such...Medical section, such...(you know they can't wait to sell off this one) I really pity the ones following us on this job, they are so going to get the run-around. And, the citizens are not going to get any economy from the conglomerates created by...you guessed it! This is why that budget falls apart; it is the dis-economy of dis-organization. Is there a Nobel Prize in this theory?

9/12/2009 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tip of the iceberg. Just think about how they handle calls for the general public! Bring back the P.O.s. Light duty etc., nobody knows the job like the people that have been out there. The taxpayers deserve better than they have been getting.

9/12/2009 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, at least back to the time of OW Wilson (Ever hear of him?) and the com center at 11th & State, Communications were ALL handled by PO's & Sgt's. When they opened up the new cntr on Madison, sworn personell were dumped (To expensive) new civilian hires (The Clouted) were brought in and most had no idea what they were doing or what we faced on the street.

9/12/2009 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I took the last sgt's test and did pretty dam good but the once promising light of a promotion has dwindled to barely a flicker amongst this non promoting regime. They've only made 110 sgts of the list in almost 3 years. It's sickening. I don't even know why i let myself get my hopes up.
The det's list is just as bad.
Now even if you score way up there you can't even get a promotion.
So what's the point???

9/12/2009 01:59:00 AM

Welcome to the real world. Join the club of numerous unclouted officers who took the test several times in their career and were never promoted. If you are not in the top 100 then give up. All of that time spent perparing for a test that promoted 70% of the top scores. 30% meritorious (clout).

9/12/2009 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: From the shooting in 003 yesterday, this on WGN this morning. Family member stated, "He wasn't no bad kid." Other family of the 15yr states to girlfriend/mother, "He was yo baby daddy." You can't write this shit. 15yrs old/offender/father/dead. He gone!

9/12/2009 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with your blog except the individual should be suspended for a severe amount of time. I can't agree with the verdict of termination. Almost every copper I know has snoozed or fell asleep on midnights.

9/12/2009 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We heard that the dispatcher in question did not think the call was important and was waiting for beat 1013 to clear from his job to assign it, then he boasted to his colleagues on how nothing is going to happen to him because of coarse his daddy is a boss on the job. HOPE YOU READ THIS MOTHERFUCKER I ALMOST LOST MY BROTHER BECAUSE YOUR INABILITY TO DO YOUR JOB CORRECTLY ITS EASY TO SIT YOUR ASS BEHIND A BOOTH IN CLOSE QUARTERS MAYBE ONE DAY YOU'LL FIND YOURSELF IN SOME SHIT AND I LL TAKE MY TIME GETTING THERE. YOUR NOTHING BUT AN ARROGANT PRICK CLOUTED BABY WHO'S ASS SHOULD BE HANDED TO ACCORDINGLY. MUCH RESPECT TO ZONE 3 DISPATCHER'S AND THOSE IN THE OEMC THAT CARE FOR OUR WELL BEING. P.S FOR ALL THOSE WHO DONT KNOW HOW LONG THIS ASSMONKEY SAT ON THE 10-1 CALL IT WAS 8 MINS.

9/12/2009 04:48:00 AM

what an a$$h@le!!!! I can see no reason 4 someone to sit on that job unless they r on the criminals side!!!! What's si hard to just read it out? U don't have to even assign it just read it out and u don't have to even get off ur useless ass to do that!

9/12/2009 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CHICAGO NO RULES APPLY!!!!!!

9/12/2009 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My question is... who's fault was it? The call taker or the dispatcher? Did the call taker make it a 10-1 1A or did he make it something else? I give the dispatcher the benefit of the doubt because there is that chance that it could have been sent over wrong.

Now if it was a 1A, then fuck the motherucker. He needs to be flippin burgers at BK.

9/12/2009 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the supervisor, sg, has been an arrogant asshole since day one at oec. he was promoted because of his ties to a boss. he was good at dispatching, true enough, but is one incompetent jerk as a supervisor. send him back to the city wides. that is where he and his girlfriend, cw, always wanted to go anyway, but the live-in gf's last name is the same as j-fed's, so he will skate again.

9/12/2009 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DIE MOTHER FUCKER:AND FUCK YOUR DADDY TO.I HOPE YOU HANG BY YOUR BALLS FOR EIGHT MINUTES,SEE HOW YOU LIKE IT. START LOOKING FOR ANOTHER JOB YOU FUCKING JAGOFF.

9/12/2009 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes - At one time dispatchers were coppers as a matter of fact most of them had worked the areas in which they dispatched so they had a personal knowledge of the district and knew some of the more dangerous corners and houses. Anyone remember Harry Hewitt from Zone 3 (Fillmore) in the 60's and 70's? I know You do Johnny Northside.

9/12/2009 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All dispatchers were sown police officer at one time. I think they started to change this around 1995. A lot of police officers then retired to take dispather positions as civilians. They were paid a lot of money to do so. Cortez Trotter, as I recall, then came on and fired a lot of them. There were allegations of racism for that decision

9/12/2009 09:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey is it true that Deputy Dugan has told a few New Commanders that they are being promoted on Tues. Jarmusz is in the front running. Any other rumors.

9/12/2009 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we should kick the dispatchers ass, and see how fast help gets there for him.. Name names, who is this asshole?

9/12/2009 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.

9/12/2009 12:12:00 AM

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Actually he IS telling the truth! I have only 23 yrs on and when I was a young buck working the wagon with a couple old-timers, we had to take females and outside warrants to 001 (1121 S. State). Every time we had a run to 001, we would call our zone (communications was at 1121) and see how many cups of coffee were needed). After dropping off our prisoners, we would go to the C.O.S. and visit our dispatchers (ALL P.O.'s) and deliver their coffee. It doesn't seem much, but there was a great mutual respect there! These Police Officers dispatching did an awesome job and they knew our lives were in their hands and took their jobs seriously. And there was one major difference between the dispatchers then and now; then THEY WERE ALL THE POLICE! This is not meant as a shot to some of the current dispatchers, because there are some great ones out there, but give me a dispatcher who may have driven a beat car for 15-20 yrs and has been on the street daily. In defense of the civilian dispatchers, they have never done our job, so it's hard for them to understand our side. But what happened in this incident is disgusting and there is no excuse for it. The punishment should be severe.

Be Safe and BACK EACH OTHER UP!!

9/12/2009 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My husband got into an off-duty footchase last summer.... someone was tampering with his car and he gave chase, told me to call 911. I did. And was told that "we are really busy". I explained that my husband is an officer, but that didn't help. A police car never came. If not for another off-duty officer coming home from work stopping to help, who know what could have happened. The police NEVER came. We live in 22... but I keep encouraging him to look elsewhere for employment so we can get out of this city, and stuff like this makes it kinda hard for him to argue that we should stay. Food for thought.

9/12/2009 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Box Chevy, Revolver Detective said...

Yes, up until about '96=97, POLICE were Dispathers. They were known many, many moons ago as "Squad Operators" (hence the term"squad" when talking to them on the radio.) The zones were 3 position consels, with call takers on either side of the center position, which was the dispatch position, which was ALWAYS a copper. Most of the dispatchers worked the zones that had the Districts that they came from, so they always knew the streets, areas, and KNEW YOUR VOICE over the radio.

More than a few times,the mic was always "open," you'd hear the call taker next to the dispatcher yell "We got a 10-1!" and the Dispatcher would break in mid sentence and Call out the 10-1 over the zone, giving info as you heard the call taker next to him yelling it to him. It worked fine, then the city decided to get this shit system they got.

Don't let me get into about 5 years ago, when some crazy bitch tried to drag me with a car, on duty, and we got in a chase, where this bitch was on her cell the whole time telling the project rats where she was going to stop, so they could surround me and my partner, which they did. Our radio didn't work (thanks low-bid, minority battery contract). When I called 911 on my cell, told the ex-Meeks choir member, "This is beat XXXX, our radio isn't working and we need help at XX & Cicero," I get a "How I know you is Police?" I told her "I guess you won't fuckin' know until our assist cars get here." I get back a "Why you got to cuss," and the bitch hangs up. TWICE! The only thing that kept us from going to the marble Taj Mahal on Madison and dragging that braided bitch by the hair and kicking her ass was a recently retired Captain (J.F.).

This system is more than broke, and it's never going to get better.

9/12/2009 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fox News & Glenn Beck are gutting the assholes in the Obama oligarchy & SCC is gutting the Daley Crime Family & its tentacles. It's great! Keep it up!
It's like a TV show> The Next Top Incompetent Dickhead.

9/12/2009 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.
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ABSOLUTELY TRUE!!! You never heard the crap that we hear now,never worried that the person at COS wasn't paying attention,and they spoke plain english!! They would send backup to you before you even had time to think about where the job was and a lot of those guys worked in the zones that they dispatched. Now we're stuck with call takers who (not all) don't think to ask the appropriate questions,dispatchers (not all) who just read whatever is in front of them and never absorb any of it!! Never heard so many dupe calls before,never had to ask for repeat of assignment because I can't understand the mush mouth on the other end. Clear the board is a ll they know and have concern for.....

9/12/2009 10:38:00 AM  
Blogger lathrop one said...

According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops......

He was telling you the truth. Police were assigned to Communications at(dating myself) 11th and State and then to the new communications center. I dont know what the exact pay grade was for the Officers but partially due to the expense and partially due to "new wave city management strategy" the officers were phased out so as to include civilians and thusly the cluster fuck that is OEMC today. I recall(not reminiscing) a call in 012 around the Old Maxwell Street Market where a young cop was chasing (on foot) a man with a gun near the old Maxwell Street Station. He did not know his location and was calling for help. The DISPATCHER who was the Police in 012 for 20 years,asked that Officer about land marks and of particular note a custom painted rear of a building. The Officer found the land mark,received help and the offender was apprehended.If this were to happen TODAY,we very well might be attending that officers funeral. I have heard stuttering fucks(not Daley) on the radio trying to "help" I have heard Dispatchers ARGUING with the Officer over the radio and giving "orders" to the Police.I have heard Officers calling SEVERAL TIMES to dispatch for help before finally getting it.I have also heard dispatch literally step over flash messages or interrupt officers while they were in a chase solely for the purpose of hearing themselves talk.In brief, yes your Sgt was telling you the truth kid. In my OPINION the Police were safer on the street when the POLICE were doing the dispatching.

9/12/2009 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some months back, I read in the paper about a incident at the OEMC where, while one of the OEMC employees was on vacation, it came to light that the desk drawer of this employee was stuffed full of subpoenas for tapes of various Daley, eye in sky, street corner cameras.

It was reported in the paper that after a certian period of time, six months or such, the tapes are reused. So, the video on the scores of subpoenas of several tapes stuffed in this vacationing employee desk drawer were recorded over and forever lost.

Orcozo was quoted in the article as saying something in effect that, If he holds the employee ignoring the subpoenas accountable for ignoring them and thereby destroying evidence, Orcozo is going to have a lot of angry employees.

When I read that, I was stunned and furious. I called my Alderman's office (I'm in the 18th) and told the kid answering the phone that he should bring the newspaper article to the Aldermans attention and the Alderman ought to make it crystal clear to Orcozo that he ought to get his g-d damn priorities straight and be more concerned about his employees doing a competent job and Orcozo not having a bunch of -- citizens -- pissed off at him and his OEMC for collossal ineptitude.

After that, the kid said something that really shocked me. He said the Aldermen have no oversight of OEMC. It's all handled out of the mayors office. I said if it's true the Alderman have no influence in the proper management of an office like OEMC, what do we need Aldermen for? The kid just went in to a I feel your pain bit from that point.

I imagine some cops can might be sensitive to how tapes are used and how they can sometimes be used to illigitimately make cops look guilty. But I don't think where tape is available it is in and of itself a bad thing. Representation of contex is the conduit for the mis-interpretation of taped evidence. In any event, it's unacceptable to allow an employee to ignore several subpeonas for camera tapes just as it should be termination for an OEMC employee that takes 8 minutes before putting the fire under a 10-1 call. It's just outrageous.

From a 10,000 foot view so to speak, what both these instances show is that this falls right in Daley's lap. It shows that Daley's objective is not security and a proper functioning OEMC. Rather, Daley's objective is using the OEMC and every other city department as a patronage pen where any level of ineptitude will be overlooked as long as employees buy those raffle tickets and vote the way you are told and as an employee, if you really screw the pooch you will be transfered to another department or if you fuck up so bad you go to jail members of your family will get city job/s or city contracts. It'll be taken care of ala the old school la Cosa Nostra.

Nationally, this is Axlerod, Emanuel and Obama's objective. Encompass as much government control as possible: banking, automobile mfg., health care (ESPECIALLY health care), ACORN (HDO) and you then control vast numbers of votes.

The rest of the USA need only look at how the democrats and Daley have run and ruined IL to see where and how Obama is taking the USA.

This is not new in the history of politics and man but the level of greed and the consolidation of power is something not seen since the robber baron days of the early 20th century.

The Republican National party is not as pure as the driven snow. They are the enablers by virtue of greed and lack of Statesmenship that have put us where we are. Both national parties are left of center of the overall center of the nation.

2010 will be a jump-the-shark (point of no return) election.

Buck Naked
(not a cop)

9/12/2009 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

then he boasted to his colleagues on how nothing is going to happen to him because of coarse his daddy is a boss .........

This suckhole got a name?

9/12/2009 10:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We were much safer in the old COS days when the incoming calls for service went right to the zone. That way, the calltaker was sitting right next to the dispatcher and either one could immediately put it on the air.

Now, the calltaker may be in a different part of the building. He puts the info into a computer and hopes it comes out at the right zone for dispatch.

Think of the many other ways that CPD computers have made your life better (LOL).

9/12/2009 10:49:00 AM  
Blogger Henry Bowman said...

Officer Tool said...
A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.

9/12/2009 12:12:00 AM

The following will be debateable among any retirees or 30 year vets...

Back when Dispatcher was a CPD position in the 70's there was Zone 4. Varillo, Rukowski and Spreyne were the BEST dispatchers on the air. (Sorry about the spelling guys). These 3 complete and ultimate pros knew you be voice and knew if you were in trouble just by your tone. Always knew where you were and knew how to protect you on the street. After almost 40 years I remember these men, because how the protected the beat officers on the street. Thanks for keeping me (us) alive every night, from the (very) old 1806 (much before it was an incident car).




Are PO dispatchers better?

For the most part with some exceptions a resounding "YES".




God Save the CPD.....

9/12/2009 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This kind of thing has happeed before, I once called and asked for assistance, the dispatcher just sat on it. When they finally did something, it was too late, became a major embarrasment to the city and also nearly got two responding POs killed.
When I inquired, I was taken to the side, told that I would loose if I complained ( since the civillian dispatcher was heavy) and it was all swept under the rug. This was when Cline was the boss, so its still going on

9/12/2009 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OT - Did Mauer get dumped today?

9/12/2009 02:33:00 AM

Yea called in "otis" and told him your services are no longer needed LOL! Another double pension type jagoff!!

9/12/2009 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, all dispatchers were Police Officers back in the day. I was there for only three years, I was recuperating from major surgery, and I'm not going to pat myself on the back BUT I and just about 80% of us (u always have a few)ALWAYS HAD YOUR BACK!!! YOU WERE ALWAYS FIRST!! Something better change, and it better change soon, oh and BTW two of the P.O's that just went back to "dispatching" were there when I was, good dispatchers maybe they can ask for more. I'm a supervisor now so I won't be able to dispatch now, but if it would help any P.O. I would assist in any way I can. Stay safe and please back each other up.

9/12/2009 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT. . . i heard on zone 9 on 11 sep 09, about 1815 HRS, a request for an outdoor roll call in 005. they were requesting cars from 022 to go to 005's outdoor roll call apparently to give the citizens the impression there are more police than there really are.

more smoke and mirrors from the powers that be feeble . . .

9/12/2009 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank God for our Zone 6 dispatchers! They are the BOMB!

Worked in 010 and worked in 003 afternoon/midnight crews suck!

9/12/2009 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When OEC first went in, we had some real problems, but many of the dispatchers we have now are pretty good. Some suck, but many of them are good. The call takers need more training though.

I was in the CC room at 1121 State a long time ago on a 90 day detail, the coppers down there were a real tight unit.

The dispatcher in question needs to fired at the very least. We, as a group, need to keep this in the forefront and see it isn't swept under the rug.

9/12/2009 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This dispatcher needs to lose his job, I don't care who his daddy or preacher is.

No excuse, for any reason, not to dispatch or announce a priority 0 job for 8 minutes.

If that copper was injured or killed, he should have faced criminal charges.

It is only the PO's guts, survival instinct and shooting ability that kept him from getting fucked up or killed.

Even Todd (Urkel) Stroger cut his cousin loose when that shit hit the fan.

This just shows the power of this blog, nobody outside of the people involved would have known about it.

Now, if just the media types that troll this looking for scoops will acknowledge it.

9/12/2009 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm surprised it hasn't happened with that female that dispatches on th 20/23 districts zone 3rd watch. If she's got a noise disturbance and she can't immediately dispatch it she gets all flustered and starts yelling at PO's on the radio. She's gotta be the most incompetant dispatcher i've ever heard. She's on probablly the slowest zone possible and she still can't handle it. Please get rid of her!!! She is dreadful to have to listen to and deal with every day.

9/12/2009 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT

An off-duty Chicago police officer in the South Side's Woodlawn neighborhood shot and killed a high school basketball palyer he saw shooting another person on Friday.

The teen was identified as Corey Harris, 17, of the 7000 block of South Yale Avenue, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

9/12/2009 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous GHOST OF 1121 said...

Anybody ever have to put up with the shit 4 brains female dispatcher on CW 1 - 3rd watch. You could be dead or bleeding out and she could care less.
Fits in well with the whole OEMC [or what ever they are calling themselves these days] group.

And what's the deal with the OEMC cars assigned to the traffic flunkie supervisors being equipped with red/blue emergency ligthts. Let me catch one of them flipping the lights on to go thru a red light or to stop some one, be the longest night of their life.
Those people might be a lot of things, but emergency vehicles or police they are not.

9/12/2009 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Retired in AZ said...

To Officer Tool...
Your Sgt. was absolutely correct.
The dispatchers were sworn officers who rotated watches with the rest of us. Many of them came to watch parties and knew us by name. A lot of them could recognize our voices. You could key the mike and say "Hold me down" and you would get a 10-4 without ever mentioning your beat.
They were absolutely the best, always looking out for everyone on the street. They really had our backs.

9/12/2009 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city took all officers out of OEMC around 1997-98, truthfully they werent much better than the current mix, althoough they could read into the bullshit a little better. Most were salty and a a pain to deal with. As for the promotions, the department has made numerous requests to the CITY'S Finance Department and they refuse to allow it. The city controls the department not the Sup.

9/12/2009 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Been on the job long enough to know that OEMC dispatch is not as good as having Police Officers dispatch jobs. The current civilian staffing does not know what it is like to be out working the street. If you are going to keep these people then part of their training needs to be as ride alongs in the beat car so they can see first hand what we are up against out there. Would also benefit them to know the streets better. Please fire the ass that was sleeping on the job. Can you imagine a traffic contol person allowing a plane to crash because he was sleeping?

9/12/2009 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes, when i first came on the job and was sent to dispatch there was at least 1 sworn on every zone, they had civilians, but they assisted the dispatcher.

9/12/2009 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: They took cars away from a lot of bosses. Lt's of units, ADS from academy, etc. Anybody that doesn't or wont be called out off duty. So who still has their cars? What's fair is fair and I know for a fact not eveyone got thier car taken away.

9/12/2009 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officer Tool said...

A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.


yep, your sarge is correct. 11th & state was the dispatch center.

all police personnel at the microphones.

i have to admit, technology is better, but the people using it need to be trained.

its still a shame that dispatchers have to work 2 shifts and make crazy amounts of overtime.

why cant they fill a few dispatch jobs?? put some injured police officers that want to work in those positions.

rant over.......

9/12/2009 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The quality of call taking and dispatching has deteriorated greatly over the years, and it is obvious some flunkies are now being hired to do the job. Here is a list of what a dispatcher should not do:

1. Don't think about the job you are dispatching so much, just read out the job, we will know what to do with it.

2. You are not a supervisor. If you ask what I am doing or when I am coming clear, I will tell you on a need to know basis.

3.DOn't even try to play the favorites game, giving jobs from one beat to another in order to hold your "flirting friend" clear. It is obvious and we can run unit summary and event display too. It's obvious when "flirty" takes lunch at 1209 and you dispatch a three car accident on his beat to another car ar 1210. Try not to be so transparent, or at least don't do it every day.

4. Don't try to entertain us. You are not Mancow Muller or Oprah Winfrey. You are not that clever. "first on Race Day". That one is 40 years old. If we wnat to listen to commentary we probably already have a transistor in our car.
5. If you know some of us on a first name basis, something is wrong (See No.3). Try not to use first names over the air. Are you balling the guy? OK, then it is alright. My bad.
6. Hold the shuck and jive in the background to a low roar. It comes through. When we listen for your call, we don't need to hear Uptown Satur5day Night in the background, espcially whe tyhe call is critical.
7. Make an effort to learn a little about the place you are dispatching to. Try not to call out an intersection of parallel streete, etc. Try to learn a little, God knows, with the overtime, you are earning a hell of a lot more than a fireman or police sergeant. Not too much to ask.

9/12/2009 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Midnight Avenger said...

While there are alot of knucklehead dispatchers, I want to commend the Zone dispatchers on Zone 6 - Val, Tabby, Carlos, Jessica, Carrie, Karen, and Mike ... I may be missing someone but thanks for all you do on one of the busiest Zone's in the city.

9/12/2009 12:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been on the job for over 20 years. I remember, when I was a rookie, hearing real policemen dispatching. These old timers were the best, they knew everything about the district they were dispatching. Because unlike the civilian shitheads we have today. These guys had worked the street at one time, and knows the importance of being a dispatcher. You know what that one thing is, that they are truly the only ones who can help the police on the street when the bullets start flying. Todays dispatchers are too worried about everything else, except the officers on the street. Maybe there are some dispatchers who do give a shit, but unfortunately they are in the minority. What we have today as dispatchers is pathetic.

9/12/2009 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

what's the real story with this?

Family: Teen dad killed by cop was unarmed
September 12, 2009 12:30 PM | No Comments
A 17-year-old Englewood boy and the father of an 8-month girl who was fatally shot by an off-duty Chicago police officer was described today as a dedicated student and a promising basketball player who was unarmed when he was gunned down.

9/12/2009 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The 10 hour pilot prog. is almost over, and word if the program is here to stay?

9/12/2009 01:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, how are all those promotions going that J-fed promised at the beggining of the year in his Pax 501?
Has anything this guy PROMISED us actually happened?

9/12/2009 01:47:00 AM



M-4's, power tests, tahoes.... more strokes in command, more lies, more bullshit, less morale, same pay, thats about it.

9/12/2009 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Plezbert was just 49, a few weeks shy of his 50th birthday, when he retired in June 2006 as Mayor Daley's first deputy commissioner of general services -- a job that paid $124,944.

Three days later, he started a new job -- as the $155,324-a-year first deputy director of the mayor's Public Building Commission

fuck you Daley.....Clout....Clout.....Clout......Should be Illegal;;;;;;Illegal;;;;;;Illegal.....tell us again you don't have money for our raise.....situations like this might be the reason we can't get a raise.....fuck these people.

9/12/2009 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officer tool
Yes they were all sworn cpd and knew thr streets. If only we had the old days back.

9/12/2009 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayor Daley's job approval: 35%
Tribune/WGN Poll: With the Olympics vote looming, it's clear Mayor Richard Daley is struggling in the eyes of Chicagoans. For the first time in his six terms in office, more voters disapprove of the job he is doing than approve.

MAYBE THIS IS WHY

Three days later, he started a new job -- as the $155,324-a-year first deputy director of the mayor's Public Building Commission.

Between his city pension and his city job, Plezbert now makes $246,721 a year.

Plezbert, 53, is a Bridgeport resident with ties to the Daley family's longtime political base, the 11th Ward Regular Democratic Organization.

I wouldn't mind a piece of the pie,oh wait,I can't get a piece of that pie....I don't have the CLOUT. Send this story to everyone you know that might be finding it a little hard paying the bills. To everyone that is being forced to give up 15 work days to help the city out. To everyone that has to give up the holiday pay. To everyone that is giving up the over-time. To everyone that got laid off because the city has no money. Please feel free to add to this. Get the idea? What a fucked up city and fucked up system.

9/12/2009 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.

9/12/2009 12:12:00 AM

Your Sgt. was telling you the truth,(I can't comment on the him/her level of alcohol though). Yes..we used to have Officers dispatching. It was a great thing. You youngsters missed what was once a great department. It wasn't perfect, still,we were the "Real Police". Yes, we always had our clout babies,still,it was different. The front office had one officer running things and CAPS had maybe 3. I know, funny or hard to imagine. You rarely saw a District Cmdr. and when you did, he was God. You never picked your car or walked into a WC's office to ask for one. The W/C actually asked the street sgt. who he or she wanted and you never called for a sgt. If you did, you'd never worked for him/her again. People knew how to write paper with only a high school education. Yes there were problems with officers getting along, still, back then, if you had a problem with someone you either met in the parking lot or kept your mouth shut. We had guys like Snethen and my FTO. Eveyone looked up to guys like them. My FTO was a real FTO. Told me to keep my mouth shut and observe. When we made an arrest, he made me try an do the whole process. When I muddled it up or when the guy started mouthing off, he'd step in and show me how it was done. How I learned. He wasn't someone you'd call being in shape either. He was overweight, smoked and an ex-Marine. When the fight was on, he'd show up and ask the bad guy in a nice way to comply and if he didn't the fight was on and he'd always win. We didn't have event #'s or "community organizers" or missions. You went out and looked for bad guys period. Sorry I vented. If you only knew how it was.

Yeah...different times.

Be Safe,
From a Wheelgunner

9/12/2009 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why not charge the turd CRIMINALLY with Official Misconduct and get him a few months or weeks in a cell to contemplate HOW HE SHOULD HAVE REACTED TO A 10-1.


Asshat!

9/12/2009 02:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats unacceptable is the article in the Trib about the off duty cop who shot the "unarmed" fleeing forcible felon/agg batt threat to public/ offender

9/12/2009 02:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Officer Tool said...
A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.

9/12/2009 12:12:00 AM<<<

It was a lot longer than eight years ago, and the officers that were dispatchers were some of the best (and worst) to do that job. They were paid D-2 pay and could be dropped if they screwed up or pissed somebody off.

Often they were cops that worked the streets of the radios zones they worked so they knew the people and the territory.
It was a three person team sitting together, the Zone or "Squad Operator" in the middle and the Call Takers or either side. The phone system was wired so that calls to 9-1-1 would be routed to the dispatch team for that particular radio zone. Now the call takers take calls for the entire city and don't know anybody or any place. In that way the old system was much better.

It was also a unit where a cop, who could work his mind and his mouth, but not his legs anymore, could ride out his time.

Stay Safe...Officer Tool

9/12/2009 03:10:00 PM  
Blogger snethen's law said...

I understand that this call was not assigned, but was it at least put out over citywide?

9/12/2009 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT - One less witness against Blago

Sources: Ex-Blagojevich Fundraiser Kelly Dead
September 12, 2009 3:12 PM
Two sources with knowledge of the situation told the Tribune today they have been notified that Christopher Kelly, a key figure in the federal corruption probe into former Gov. Rod Blagojevich, is dead.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/
2009/09/sources-ex-blagojevich-
fundraiser-kelly-confirmed-dead.html

9/12/2009 03:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Duh....did anyone bother to inform Weis that due to Daley's DELAY in hiring that we're all pretty much out here ALONE???

9/12/2009 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic: Blagos ex fundraiser Chris Kelly found dead today. The cause of death should be real interesting.

9/12/2009 03:48:00 PM  
Blogger mr taggart said...

i hope that if they go after someone, they go after the right asshole because our normal dispatchers lupe and lina are always on the ball, they never let us down and never will, i will go to back for them if they try to do something to them.

9/12/2009 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Any info about officers sitting in a covert being shot at in Englewood?

9/12/2009 04:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.

They got rid of it in the mid '90's when they built the 911 Center. It used to be the Communications Unit on the 2nd and 3rd Floors of Headquarters at 11th & State, part of the Department. He was telling the truth but he may also have been drunk.

9/12/2009 04:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put his or her name out there, if it would of been the other way around our name would be dragged through the mud.

9/12/2009 04:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This job that promised all these different options and careers paths and promotions has become such a dead end job with zero possiblities to advance or get into any specialties.

-------------

This is something that anyone who is interested in this job should read.

It wasn't always as bad as it is today. The department is so understaffed in the districts, mostly because of newly created inside office positions, that only the clouted can expect the position they want.

This job is strictly for Chicago State and Kennedy-King college grads who have no other employment options. This department is nothing more than a security operation that moves uniforms around to give the appearance of safety. In reality, very few violent crimes are being solved and very few real bad guys are being housed.

There is no future in this department. Policing in this city is nothing more than documenting events to avoid civil liability.

People with any ambition at all should steer clear of the Chicago Police Department. If you really want to do policework, go somewhere else. If you come here, you can expect to be nothing but a uniformed clerk for the next 20 years. If that's what you want, then grab that Chicago State diploma and come on over. There's a chair somewhere in this shithole with your name on it and a boss that's dumber than the desk you'll be sitting at.

9/12/2009 04:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Not OEMC! said...

Why should the dispatcher be held accountable? The stress probably got to him and he just needed a hug. Damn you people are judgemental!

9/12/2009 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't blame all the dispatchers for this one clown, majority are great!!! This guy sleeps all the time and needs to be woken up by the other dispatchers!!! Where are the supivisors???

9/12/2009 06:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A reporter from the Chicago Tribune was at last Saturday’s benefit event for Densey and Chris. Here is the article: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-densey-cole-city-zonesep09,0,850078.story?page=1. I’ve also exchanged from emails with Denver PD Chief Whitman who has personally visited with Densey and with Chicago PD Superintendent Jody Weis who has not. I've asking him to visit Densey and support his officers who came down on their own time/dime. Here is his reply:
"Detective Williams: ‬‪First of all, let me thank you for all the support given to Police Officer Densey Cole and his family. I have personally visited Officer Cole on several occasions while he was hospitalized here in Chicago. I had planned a personal visit to Officer Cole on a scheduled trip to Colorado in October. I have been updated regularly on Officer Cole's condition and status by our Department liaison, Commander Daniel Alvarado. As a matter of fact, Commander Alvarado spoke to Mrs. Cole within the last few days and found that Officer Cole will be returning to Chicago within the next month. Commander Alvarado has been in constant contact with Officer Cole's wife Mary since the incident. Department members have provided support to Officer Cole and his family on a regular basis through the Chicago Police Memorial contributions. Additionally, the Fraternal Order of Police stepped up and provided airfare for some of the officers who traveled to Colorado.‬‪ The city of Chicago has gone through some trying budgetary times, as other Department's across the nation have. We have had to tighten our belts throughout the entire Department as the city of Chicago is experiencing a 620 million dollar shortfall. We were not able to approve the request to use Department vehicles. The approval for personal to travel lies with the Deputy Superintendent of each Bureau. I have asked the respective Deputy Superintendent's to re-evaluate the requests previously submitted by officers who traveled to Colorado at their own expense to be Carried 'Code 049', meaning they would be carried and paid for some of the days they were in Colorado. Thank you again for your support.‬‪"
I know a most of the people who went down there and they paid there own way and one were carried code 49....

9/12/2009 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As promised the city/cpd took away a lot of take home cars, the criteria was those without call out responsibilities dont need a take home car. They are probably right in most cases BUT
As predicted several still have there cars who probably shouldn't, for examle.
A K-9 sgt that lives south and travels everyday to O'hare and sits in an office and runs the kennels, she doesn't have a dog, what call out responsibilites does she have?
How do the Lt's at the academy lose their cars but a certain SGT at the academy who is the brother of a certain ADS, formerly commander of 18 still keep his? When is he going to be called out?
Sure maybe I maybe whining but the department again shows if you know the right people the rules don't apply. I am sure there are other examples that can be presented...

9/12/2009 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We all know ray ray shortshanks favorite emergency czar can do no wrong.

9/12/2009 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officer Tool said...
A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.

9/12/2009 12:12:00 AM


No, they did not do away with police officers as dispatchers after 9/11. It was before that, 1997 or so. For the most part, when they moved communications from the old CPD headquarters at 1121 S State and into the new OEC later renamed OEMC, that was the beginning of the end for police as dispatchers. Some moved to the new building but mostly they were forced to retire or move to a district.

One excellent dispatcher, formerly of Zone 3 radio, the real police as he said back then, waited until the bitter end, he refused to retire and made them eliminate the unit, giving him super seniority and allowing him to keep the police dispatcher title code, and the D2 pay that went with it, till he retired out of 019.

There are no true PO's there now, there were a few retired guys but I don't know how many of those, if any, are left.

In the old CC Room, the dispatcher sat next to the call takers and the dispatcher could take the call and listen to the person calling as he (or she) dispatched cars. We used to get a whole lot more people caught in the act then. The job didn't have to go through an email system before it got to the person on the radio console. We also got running updates as the caller became out eyes and ears at the scene and frequently could guide police to the right bad guy as he was talking to 911.

Those were good times, we went to this system and things went to shit. Jobs got lost, mis-classified, all in all it took a lot longer for a job to get dispatched.

And back then all jobs got written down on an IBM punch card (I know, what's a punch card!) so when they said they would put a card in your slot, there was a real card and a real slot.

And you could call them up on the phone and occasionally work some magic. That's all I'm gonna' say about that.

Oh, the two guys on Zone 3 were so good and popular that police scanner clubs would invite them to their meetings to talk. these two guys were revered as Gods who walked the earth by the scanner crowd. Their shift was listened to as if it were old time radio entertainment. Listening to those two was like listening to an audio work of art, they did it so well and it was a joy to work with guys like that dispatching.

Was it only 23 years ago? Christ, the time has flown by. Fun times indeed. You frequently went home with a sense of satisfaction and pride.

And as for pressure from supervisors, where I worked the most effective pressure came from one's co-workers, not the bosses. If you fucked up you heard about it the next day at roll call, from the other beat guys. Those days are gone forever I fear.

9/12/2009 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

another future medical student shot in englwood today.duette high school?never heard of it but i'll lay money its for students that dont play well with others.how old is babies mama that we are going to support for the next 17 years.no sheet on him as an adult thats cuz he just turned 17.unseal his juvy records no i didnt yhink so.buy some condoms----------------

9/12/2009 06:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These assholes have been sitting on off duty POs calls since they day that shit building on Madison opened. It was Unit 176, about 250 cops worked there and that included the light duty guys and POWs stuck at callback. How many people are they hiding on Madison? Close to a thousand I bet.

9/12/2009 06:56:00 PM  
Anonymous D Winthrop said...

I'm from a 40 yr cop family.
I did'nt use a dispatcher this
day on the West side near Homan
and Chicago. Yes, I actually lived
near there. I was at a rib joint when I observed a man w/ a jerri curl walk in with a revolver sticking out of his pocket. I calmly waited for my order. I then
eased out of the place w/o bumping into this clown. I searched Chicago Ave in my wife's car for a phone but (typical Chicago) it was broken. At the Kedzie @ Chicago
strip mall I saw a parked sqaud car. I located the two officers in a store. I raced in and blurted out a description of the perp. Without a word they ran past me and skidded out of the parking lot. As I eased past the rib joint, they had the perp on the floor. I was elated! Be safe officers, without you ther will be
chaos.
Terminate the dispatcher.

9/12/2009 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

..."Officer Tool said...
A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.

9/12/2009 12:12:00 AM"...


It was a lot longer than eight years ago, and the officers that were dispatchers were some of the best (and worst) to do that job. They were paid D-2 pay and could be dropped if they screwed up or pissed somebody off.

Often they were cops that worked the streets of the radios zones they worked so they knew the people and the territory.
It was a three person team sitting together, the Zone or "Squad Operator" in the middle and the Call Takers or either side. The phone system was wired so that calls to 9-1-1 would be routed to the dispatch team for that particular radio zone. Now the call takers take calls for the entire city and don't know anybody or any place. In that way the old system was much better.

It was also a unit where a cop, who could work his mind and his mouth, but not his legs anymore, could ride out his time.

Stay Safe...Officer Tool

9/12/2009 08:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayor hired this idiot to run it's Police Department knowing that he has had the same amount of Police Academy training classes as a Campfire Girl!!!!!

Not true, campfire girls have more training than weis and his federal ilk

9/12/2009 08:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
We heard that the dispatcher in question did not think the call was important and was waiting for beat 1013 to clear from his job to assign it, then he boasted to his colleagues on how nothing is going to happen to him because of coarse his daddy is a boss on the job. HOPE YOU READ THIS MOTHERFUCKER I ALMOST LOST MY BROTHER BECAUSE YOUR INABILITY TO DO YOUR JOB CORRECTLY ITS EASY TO SIT YOUR ASS BEHIND A BOOTH IN CLOSE QUARTERS MAYBE ONE DAY YOU'LL FIND YOURSELF IN SOME SHIT AND I LL TAKE MY TIME GETTING THERE. YOUR NOTHING BUT AN ARROGANT PRICK CLOUTED BABY WHO'S ASS SHOULD BE HANDED TO ACCORDINGLY. MUCH RESPECT TO ZONE 3 DISPATCHER'S AND THOSE IN THE OEMC THAT CARE FOR OUR WELL BEING. P.S FOR ALL THOSE WHO DONT KNOW HOW LONG THIS ASSMONKEY SAT ON THE 10-1 CALL IT WAS 8 MINS.

9/12/2009 04:48:00 AM
***********************************
OUT HIM.... WHO'S HIS DADDY?

9/12/2009 08:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would have to agree with the previous poster. Store the #s of ALL 25 DISTRICTS on your cell, and call them when the shit hits the fan.
The asshole on the desk can't do any worse!!

9/12/2009 08:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check out all the City's "double dippers" in tomorrow's Sun-Times.

Shameless in-your-face mother fuckers. No town can even come close to Shitcago for corruption.

Daley is untouchable.

9/12/2009 08:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can you give a hint as to who the bad dispatcher's daddy on the job is? Is father like son?

9/12/2009 08:59:00 PM  
Blogger Have it Better Than Most said...

OT: Police officer, passersby rescue man from lake

A Chicago police officer from the mounted unit and some passersby rescued a 70-year-old man from France who almost drowned in the lake, authorities said today.

On Friday about 2:15 p.m. Mounted Unit Officer Chris Andersen was riding along the lakefront bike path near Monroe Drive when a citizen said an older man had fallen into Monroe Harbor and was struggling in the water, according to Police News Affairs.
The man apparently had lost his balance and fell into the lake while trying to attach his boat to the harbor wall.
Andersen dismounted and handed his reins to the witness before rushing to the water's edge, police said. He laid down on the bank and reached into the water, where the struggling man had slipped beneath the surface.
Grabbing onto a piece of the man's clothing, Andersen was able to pull the man's head above water, police said. Two other passersby then also went to help Andersen pull the man from the water.
The 70-year-old man, who was visiting from France and did not speak English, was able to walk away without serious injury, police said.
A news release from Police News Affairs credits the efforts of the citizens and the heroism of Andersen with saving a life.


Chris Anderson, nice fucking job....Stand up guy and deserves all the accolades coming his way...

9/12/2009 09:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fox news just did a story on the off duty police officer who shot the 15-year-old basketball captain and baby's daddy near 69th and King. Apparently the off duty officer witnessed the young lad shoot another subject. Off duty announced his office telling the offender to drop the weapon. The gun toting lad ignores the order and runs, and the foot chase was on. The young lad stops in a back yard and points his gun at the off duty officer, who shoots and kills the offender.

The offender's auntie is on the news and says her nephew didn't own a gun, everybody knew he didn't own a gun. She says the off duty officer really witnessed her nephew taking the gun away from someobdy, because he knew guns were bad. The auntie then says "that don't matter anyway, everybody knows that off duty officers are not supposed to shoot to kill."

Apparently we're trained to shoot to kill when on duty, but off duty we're supposed to shoot to mame. I missed that department order.

9/12/2009 09:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NEVER,EVER TRUST A FED....NOTHING WILL BE DONE.

9/12/2009 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: From the shooting in 003 yesterday, this on WGN this morning. Family member stated, "He wasn't no bad kid." Other family of the 15yr states to girlfriend/mother, "He was yo baby daddy." You can't write this shit. 15yrs old/offender/father/dead. He gone!

9/12/2009 08:22:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with your blog except the individual should be suspended for a severe amount of time. I can't agree with the verdict of termination. Almost every copper I know has snoozed or fell asleep on midnights.

9/12/2009 08:34:00 AM

YOU ARE AN IDIOT !!!!! There is more than 1 car on the street on midnights. If an officer did take a snooze, there are others out there to help out. If you are the ONLY dispatcher on a zone...STAY AWAKE ASSHOLE ! If the dispatcher is connected, someone needs to "out his clout" and let it be heard. The punishment can't be placed on a "what if" situation. The dispatchers are there for us, not us for them. They are our lifeline on and off duty. With this supe, any near death situation because of the inattention of an officer, the officer would probably be sitting on 30 pending, the same needs to be done for this situation.

9/12/2009 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, it seems some of your readers or young or short of memory. If some of you may recall, the civilianization of dispatching at 11th and State was brought about shortly after a TV camera crew caught quite a few uniformed POs dozing on zones on... drum roll please... midnights.

The 10-1 incident is inexcusable. If you are flying solo on zones 6, 8, 10 or 12, you better know better than to fall asleep for even a single second.

But the idea that sleeping on 1st watch only began with civilians is, well, quite wrong. I don't attribute this idea to you SCC, only some of your young or short-of-memory readers.

9/12/2009 10:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of these dispatchers are plain shit and closely associated with the HOOD.Remember the Durkin park incident?

9/12/2009 10:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JFED can't speak until he is told it is ok to speak. Like in 024 when the alderwoman was DUI'ed. he had to wait for daley to tell him it was ok.

9/12/2009 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Ultimate Tactical Warrior said...

TheNinthWarrior said...

Ultimate Tactical Warrior said...
GENESIS
YAAWWWNNNN...not funny. You're rapidy becoming the Ultimate Tact Bore-rior.

"searching the asses of Simon City Royals "
I think you want a tact guy to search your ass. You have some kind a tact fetish there, boy?

"my dad was fired from the force ...he got busted...stabbing a transvestite"

Like father like son. That apple didn't fall too far from the tree.

"me and my tac team can get there guns"

Why don't you get "there" spell check while you're at it?

9/12/2009 07:17:00 AM

I usually don't respond to negative comments on this blog since I knew that many people, such as yourself, are jealous of me. Seeing as you're so smug, however, I'll make an exception. I'll adress the three points that you childishly made.

1. Guys on my tac team search my ass all the time for narcotics. It's called an integrity check you moron.

2. That's true, I'm a chip off the old block and proud of it.

3. As far as my misuse of the word there, instead of their, well, I might seem like it, but I'm not perfect. Accidents happen. Kind of like the night you were conceived.

I can tell from your idiotic post that you have never worked tac. You're probably a janitor at a station or an R-man. I'll tell you what though, I'll pull some strings with my superiors and get you a job, carrying my Chicago Bar. Just have the balls to leave your name like I do. Everyone knows there/their is no such thing as a 9th Warrior. Only the Ultimate Tactical Warrior!!!!!!

9/12/2009 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with your blog except the individual should be suspended for a severe amount of time. I can't agree with the verdict of termination. Almost every copper I know has snoozed or fell asleep on midnights.

in between jobs, not while your 99 actually working.

9/12/2009 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dispatcher don't necessarily need to be sworn but definitely need to be able to think like (or better than) a cop.

I do agree that some of the old farts were great at the radio and in a perfect world I suspect a mix of the Vitalis wheelgunners and smart civilians (maybe criminal justice students) would make sense. Better than now.


Before returning to the urban jungle, I worked in the 70s out west where we actually had local telephone operators at the independent telephone company. The third shift operators used to listen to the scanner to keep from getting bored and, if the dispatcher missed a call, there would be a phone call from the operators telling him to answer the radio! Pretty cool.

What I really cringe at are the call takers and computers. In an emergency, seconds count and they waste far too much time.

And, on a lighter note about dispatchers and brothers/sisters...

I was coming back from Door County on a Saturday night and stopped at a hotel off I94 to answer nature's call. On my way to the head I saw a couple of guys from a wedding reception fighting a bit and dropped a dime on Milwaukee PD.

After taking care of business, I came out to find not one, not two but TWELVE Milwaukee PD units on the scene. There was a miscommunication between the call taker and dispatcher who called out an out of town officer needed assistance with a fight at the Ramada Inn!!!

9/12/2009 11:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm double dipping on this post but..."Squad" stands for "Squad Room Operator"... In the early days of CPD radio there was a North side channel and a South side channel on VHF. I remember my old Capt. Sweeney saying that there was a "10" code list of more than 10-1, 10-99, 10-4, that was used...Any old time CPD radio people out there, if you have the list please post. And hey, let's be careful out there!

9/13/2009 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

Ahhh yes...

fond memories of stopping by the old room after dropping off our human cargo at the penthouse suites on 9 & 11... it never hurt to drop off a goody bag to the dispatcher & call-takers... My God we had fun and goodness did we WORK OUR ASSES OFF putting bad muthafuckahs in jail. We had too much fun to be sick or on the medical and if you did get hurt, you put a bandage on it and came to work the next night to do it again. Sitting in roll call laughing off the bruises, lumps and shiners to go at the mutts again.

We never had to second guess our squad operators because we KNEW they walked in our shoes for the most part and some of them were the REAL MUTHAFUCKIN' Old Style Savoy Slant Six & Fury I PO-LEECE!

Civilianizing police communnications was part of 42 extra-short's plan to destroy the department as a formerly uncontrollable political force/threat to him and his syndicate... Note how much has been stripped away from the department and civilianized. It was never about "saving money," that was just a distractor.

This job has turned into an ass-pit with everyone trying to keep their head above the shit and try to stay afloat until retirement.

We feel badly for the younger officers, they'll never know the comraderie, the fraternity and the fiery pride of telling a bunch of rotten dog-ass, criminal assholes who dare to oppose or question "...because I'm the LAW muthafuckahs, that's why."

Stay safe all... Two taps on the westside doorbell as we do da slo' roll on your street stop...

9/13/2009 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OT:

what's the real story with this?

Family: Teen dad killed by cop was unarmed
September 12, 2009 12:30 PM | No Comments
A 17-year-old Englewood boy and the father of an 8-month girl who was fatally shot by an off-duty Chicago police officer was described today as a dedicated student and a promising basketball player who was unarmed when he was gunned down.

9/12/2009 01:20:00 PM
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Go away mr/mrs lawyer/reporter/troll

9/13/2009 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

tera.williams@foxtv.com

One bullshit story tonight regarding Off Duty P.O. shooting. Send her an email and relay our anger and disgust regarding one-sided, biased reporting.

9/13/2009 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ultimate Tactical Warrior said...

Your posts do make me laugh but go ahead and and ask the Tact Lt. again you might get up there! Ha Ha Ha you sound a little bitter brother....

9/13/2009 04:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just saw on local news Kelly' s sucpected suicide Investigation conception.

Who was that guy who fell off a horse in about the same length of time it's taken Kelly to leave this world and what was that scandal?

Are these guys an example of a "Why take a chance philosophy?"

The good of what's left of our society may be lost by abortions and the neglect at educating most of our kids in the publc school system BUT let us NOT go down without a fight!!

Buck Naked
(not a cop)

9/13/2009 04:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I remember when dispatchers use to be Chicago police. 911 calls were handled quickly and professionally. The dispatcher knew exactly what to ask and how to handle each call. They knew what a 10-1 was. Now you can hardly understand some of these call takers when they get around to answering the phone. They also ask some of the most idiotic questions. We have what we have now because Daley didn't want to pay police salaries to man the 911 phones. This was another one of Daley's blunders."

There are call takers and dispatchers that make more than cops without overtime so I don't understand this statement.

9/13/2009 04:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A couple of weeks ago, my Sgt. was reminiscing about the old days. According to him, dispatchers used to be Chicago cops. It was a unit like narcotics, vice, detectives, etc. They got rid of it after 9/11 I think he said, not sure. Was he telling the truth or maybe drunk? I only got 8 years on so I don't know. Either way, it sounds like a good idea to bring back.

9/12/2009 12:12:00 AM

Yes, the dispatchers really were the POLICE. Anyone remember Pat Marshall on Zone? How about Wally on 12? The best days are gone. So sad.

9/13/2009 06:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

'2. You are not a supervisor. If you ask what I am doing or when I am coming clear, I will tell you on a need to know basis.'

Have to disagree with you on that one. Dispatchers need to do that a lot more. Sometimes people come clear and the dispatcher didn't hear it. Sometimes people clear themselves over the PDT, when they are required to do it over the air also. Sometimes, people just forget to come clear...and then there are the dogs, who will ride that job for the tour if no one inquires as to their status. It would be nice if dispatchers didn't have to do it, but not everyone out there working the cars is a professional (or responsible), and we all know THAT.

9/13/2009 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Was it only 23 years ago? Christ, the time has flown by. Fun times indeed. You frequently went home with a sense of satisfaction and pride.

And as for pressure from supervisors, where I worked the most effective pressure came from one's co-workers, not the bosses. If you fucked up you heard about it the next day at roll call, from the other beat guys. Those days are gone forever I fear.

9/12/2009 06:42:00 PM

Thanks for the well written entry. It brought back memories and was spot on.

9/13/2009 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous u can't right write said...

Why don't you get "there" spell check while you're at it?

Your response does much to highlight your mastery of the written word. Get "there" spell check? Did you mean "spell checked"? Anyway, nice try. While "there" is spelled correctly, the context is wrong. "Context" you ask? Never mind. Just come to Stanley's again for the whole tour tonight and everything you didn't learn in your 5th grade english class will come back into focus. Ultimate Tact Warrior rules!

9/13/2009 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The following will be debateable among any retirees or 30 year vets...

Back when Dispatcher was a CPD position in the 70's there was Zone 4. Varillo, Rukowski and Spreyne were the BEST dispatchers on the air. (Sorry about the spelling guys). These 3 complete and ultimate pros knew you be voice and knew if you were in trouble just by your tone. Always knew where you were and knew how to protect you on the street. After almost 40 years I remember these men, because how the protected the beat officers on the street. Thanks for keeping me (us) alive every night, from the (very) old 1806 (much before it was an incident car).
*******************
Debate on ! Guys/Girls on the original Z1 covered 015(pre 025), 016 and 017 a task now shared by two zones, Z1 and Z12. Calvey, Smith, Gold and others rocked.

9/13/2009 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/12/2009 06:21:00 PM

Cannot send dept vehicles? No but you can make more exempts at $160,000++ Can have more free cars for staff! Why do so may people have cars? Why does the police finance director for example have a car??

9/13/2009 11:13:00 AM  
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9/13/2009 11:15:00 AM  
Blogger lathrop one said...

We feel badly for the younger officers, they'll never know the comraderie, the fraternity and the fiery pride of telling a bunch of rotten dog-ass, criminal assholes who dare to oppose or question "...because I'm the LAW muthafuckahs, that's why."


Brother.....you forgot one minor detail.....the cold beer at Kellys after a hard day.You know where,you know the District.If memory serves me correctly....you owe me a few hahahaha.

2 taps back at 'cha

9/13/2009 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the early days of CPD radio there was a North side channel and a South side channel on VHF.

and they are STILL in use today:
151.190 (parks north)
151.295 (soldier field,parks south)

9/13/2009 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heck, dont forget the 19-Paul, that sort of handled every job and no paper work, retired guy. Somestimes the past is better than the present. When Police Officers were dispatchers they were accountable to the Officers on the street and protecting them. In the past we'd often bring a cup of coffee to the radio room and get to know these guys on a personal level. It was a team

9/13/2009 11:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACTUAL CASE:


At or around 7pm on Dec 29th 2007,an unknown voice broke in on Zone-13 stating that his duty weapon had just been taken and that he was in a foot chase of the offender in the Abla Projects. The voice also went on to request an ambulance for the other 2 Offenders that he had incapacitated laying at 14th and Loomis.As the units responded to this call,the voice continued to give out a very detailed description of the offender(name included) and direction of travel. The offender was captured and the weapon recovered.When "command" (Sodini) arrived,he asked why this guy decided to come up on the Zone,on HIS air.
The reply says it all....
"Because I wasnt gonna put my LIFE in the hands of a 5-10 minute delay and didnt have TIME to answer a million questions"
Now had there been THE POLICE at 911,this would have been handled far differently. Im NOT advocating that you run out and buy a Zone Radio(some of you have already)BUT given the mess at OEMC and the delay presented in several off AND on duty incidents,it might just be a good idea. $189.00 is an awfully cheap life insurance policy.

9/13/2009 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another thing about the old three-man system.

If a really HOT call came in, like that 10-1 the other night, the Call Taker, who would almost always be an experienced Dispatcher, could take over the Squad Operator mike and talk directly to the cars and keep the caller on the phone.

It would almost be a direct line with the person calling in to the responding beat cars.

I advise everyone at work to block their Caller-ID, if you do and have to make an emergency call, spit out your phone number a couple of times CLEARLY.

Also, if you have voice dialing train your phone to call 9-1-1 with one word, EMERGENCY!

Another thing, is to keep the District Desk numbers handy in your phones. If you have a problem with 9-1-1, that may be a better way to go.

Stay safe, and keep your phone batteries charged up.

9/13/2009 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weis just stimulated the Chicago Automobile Dealerships. I saw two lt's and one Sgt at a dealer up north looking around probably to buy a new car :) There is four extra parking spots in a two block radius. I can't wait to see what kind of car my FatAss Lt. owns. The excitement is overwhelming. I just have to wait another day.

9/13/2009 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have almost 30yrs on. I remember my first day on the job. I came out of the academy and had to report the same night for first watch. I had the pleasure of starting my career in Uptown when it was bad. (A great learning ex.)We picked up our radio (yes just one back then)and my training officer told me to turn it on and start listening for our bt#. As I turned it dispatch was already banging us for a job. I answered up and after we were given our assingment theP.O dispatcher (yes all of them were P.O's back then) told us to call the zone when we had a chance. I was so nervous about that request and asked my fto why he said that. His comment was don't worry kid he just wants to know who he's talking to and your a new voice. All the P.O's back then were once in the district and usually dispatched the zones they once worked. Later that evening we took a personel at the hospital and my fto called the zone from the bell. He then put me on the phone and all three people on the zone talked to me and wished me luck. A few days later we had to go to 11th & state to pick up a warrant on an offender we had arrested. Back then they had no computer's and you had to call it in. If the person had a warrant you had to drive down and pick it up in person. The first thing my fto said is "we have to stop and pick up food for the dispatchers" since in those day's their was nothing downtown on midnights. When we got to 11th & State we went right up and dropped off the food to our zone. I was introduced to the guy's and they shook my hand and stated your doing a fine job rookie, keep it up. Those were the good old days.

In 1995 when they started to put the civilians in that spot it was a dark day for CPD. If any dispatchers are reading this get a fucking clue. Officer safety should be your 1st concern. Not bullshitting across the room to someone else. It would also be nice if you learned to use the switch that broadcast's to city wide units. There may be city wide units in the area when you give out a 10-1 or in progress. I tired of almost getting killed because I don't know what's happening around me. I have on a few occassions grabbed an offender not knowing why he is wanted,but when I'm driving down the street and see lights and sirens racing around I know something is up. Why aren't you telling us? When I see a suspicious person booking through the alley's and yards I have to figure that's who there looking for. Get your head out of your ass and learn your job. I'm tired of grabbing someone and I don't even know what they did or if they have a weapon. I shouldn't have to ask city wide to ask the zone what's happening. Just put it out on the air the right way and push the fucking button. How hard is this.How many lives have you cost, do to the fact that you are lazy or just incompetant.

9/13/2009 01:36:00 PM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

LOL! Uncle Wally on z13 was one of THE BEST!

"Hey there boys & girls, this is W??? Zone 13 radio..."

Random shout outs to and by Wally were hysterical and we recall someone playing some theme music from Leave it to Beaver or some other 50's sit-com if the air wasn't busy after Wally did his "intro"... Policemen, the funniest people on God's green Earth...

If we remember correctly, he retired very shortly after the move to 1411...

Does anyone have an update or any news on him?

9/13/2009 02:25:00 PM  
Anonymous PATTON, from the grave said...

Dispatcher get terminated. (Immediately) Supervisor goes on notice for poor management and is on probation (Immediately)

Director must institute new standards - AND enforce them. (Immediately)

Incompetence should NOT be tolerated at the 911 Center - EVER.

NONE of these should be clout positions.

Anyone showing this level of incompetence should be shown the door immediately. No severance.

No hibbety bibbety rhetoric as to
excuses or keeping a job.

Others who don't take their job seriously - BOOT THEM ALL.

This is NOT a police issue.

Leadership.
Leadership.
LEADERSHIP.

The director better jump on this, otherwise throw his ass out too.

Make examples and the other sheep might get the message.

9/13/2009 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT - Did Mauer get dumped today?

I didnt see Georgas or Kennedy crying today. So I say no.

9/13/2009 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>I remember my old Capt. Sweeney saying that there was a "10" code list of more than 10-1, 10-99, 10-4, that was used...Any old time CPD radio people out there, if you have the list please post. And hey, let's be careful out there!

9/13/2009 12:05:00 AM<<<

I believe a 10-50 was a Traffic Accident, but here's one for you...What was a "Confinement Case"?

9/13/2009 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know how Shortshanks and Jody are trying to get rid of all the older cops with the 55 and out medical insurance.

What if some of those experienced cops were hired back, even part time as Dispatchers.

Why waste all that talent and experience.

9/13/2009 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous TheNinthWarrior said...

1. Guys on my tac team search my ass all the time for narcotics. It's called an integrity check ...
What are you checking, anal integrity?

2. That's true, I'm a chip off the old block and proud of it.

Forest Gump Sr must be very proud of you.

... Accidents happen. Kind of like the night you were conceived
How do you know I was conceived at night,you don't eevn know how to conceive a funny satirical post

You're probably a janitor at a station or an R-man... get you a job, carrying my Chicago Bar. ..

Good, that way I can practice that integrity search thing on you.

9/13/2009 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous TheNinthWarrior said...

1. Guys on my tac team search my ass all the time for narcotics. It's called an integrity check ...
What are you checking, anal integrity?

2. That's true, I'm a chip off the old block and proud of it.

Forest Gump Sr must be very proud of you.

... Accidents happen. Kind of like the night you were conceived
How do you know I was conceived at night,you don't eevn know how to conceive a funny satirical post

You're probably a janitor at a station or an R-man... get you a job, carrying my Chicago Bar. ..

Good, that way I can practice that integrity search thing on you.
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Dude, no offense, but you really suck. You can't even win a burn fest with a fictional character on a blog. Oh, and by the way mr. champion spelling bee 2009 award winner, even is spelled even! Not eevn. HAHAHAHAHA! Look everybody! This jerk misspelled a word! HAHAHAHA!

9/13/2009 11:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Confinement case was a pregnant women about to give birth.

9/13/2009 11:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone remember John Fisher at 1121 up in radio?

John was a patrolman, but he was an acting supervisor most of the time. John was a helluva guy and someone who should have been a boss years before.

In 1978 when flight 191 crashed, work called him at home and asked him to come in to handle it. John had his own radio (he was a ham radio operator, so him having a radio that worked on the zones and citywides was not an issue for him).

He worked with the guy on the air (who was Rich Whelton, another ham) until he got to COS and worked with Richie.

Rich died 15 plus years ago.

John died 2 yrs ago I believe.

73's to both of you from an old friend.... Any other hams, feel free to chime in.

PS: John was sorta famous for 4 seconds. In the movie "Code of Silence" when they panned the radio room during the opening credits, John was sitting at the supervisor's console (old guy with white hair and glasses)

9/13/2009 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I work midnights at the OEMC and am NOT a shit for brains like most of the screw ups in this building. the shithead who f*cked up was not asleep - which makes it WORSE- he sat there and stared at the screen and did NOTHING. then tried to say his computer broke or his radio or some bullshit reaction. many of us at OEMC believe he should take a VERY heavy punishment, as should the idiot supervisor. this problem goes back to whoever hires these idiots AND the training staff. they are better at eating their 3 lunches a day instead of actually TEACHING people HOW to be a good dispatcher. its VERY sad.
just know there are dispatchers that care about your safety; that know what they are doing; and that hate the idiots just as much as you guys do. trust me.

9/13/2009 11:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It amazes me that all brass has access to a radio and refuse to hear what is going on. Why is there still a problem with the dispatchers? A couple of months ago I called 911, when I noticed there was a break in at my residence. I announced my office, star number and district of assignment. After telling the call taker someone had entered my home and may still be in the residence, I requested an assist from a 5th District unit in clearing my residence. The call taker told me to look for the police, so I unlocked my door awaiting their arrival.
To my suprise almost 30 minutes later a one man unit responded with clipboard in hand.
Upon seeing this I knew the job was not dispatched correctly.
I made myself clear to the call taker and stated all information for my/assisting officers protection and proper police response. That wench, put me and the responding officer in danger. I had to apologize to the responding officer to make a complaint on the 911 dispatcher.
How in the world did she give out the call as a burglary, when at the time of call I did not know what the hell it was myself? She did not know if it was a dillusional boyfriend, a person with a vendetta, (or her man pissed off because he lost a good peice coming to kill me) as far as she was concerned.
Point being. these people are not payed to think. They are not payed to boss, or create policies and guidelines. They are paid to call take, give information as stated, dispatch, assist officers, and assist citizens.
Why is it after my 18 years on the force no one has addressed the officers issues? Are they waiting on an officer to get killed due to the call takers and dipatchers negligence? Or are they waiting for an officer's offspring or parent to *do the fool" (like most citizens) through the media telling how the supervisors and top (brass)personnel neglected protection of their most valuable asset instead of correcting their assist mechanism.
We need not be be reminded of Officers Cornelius and Green punishment due to dispatcher cerebral malfunction. Or how about the incident of a bank robbery in progress that was dispatched as a officer fighting with a citizen at a local Dominicks (which ultimately resulted in an officers suspension).
This has to stop, because everyone's relatives are not all that diplomatic when it come to corporate negligience.

9/14/2009 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well this quote from one of the remarks in the Sun Times article looks fabulous:

"Anyone's life being at risk holds the same importance. Should we use 10-1 when calling??"

9/14/2009 07:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

YES! There were police as dispatchers. They were at 11th and State. Ah that Ivory Tower! Oh well. I have the solution. Hire retired police officers as dispatchers. They not only walk the walk but also talk the talk!!!

9/14/2009 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes I listen to my scanner when sleep evades me (or if I hear gun shots in the area). Sounds to me that most Zone 8 dispatchers in the evenings really know their stuff.

A citizen

9/14/2009 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

breaking news!!! WTF!!!

Outrageous - Outrageous

today the incompetent son-of-a bitch was rewarded with an assignment to the training division!!! weekends and holidays off and a 5 day workweek on days I will never forgive this administration for this horrendous lapse in judgement. He should be on suspension, pending -
and management should be held accountable for their lack of supervision. No excuses . God, can't somebody down there grow a pair???

9/14/2009 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God, can't somebody down there grow a pair???

9/14/2009 10:56:00 PM

You tool! It is for retraining, not a permanent detail, so evidently he is not going to be fired, nor is the supervisor going to be disciplined.

9/15/2009 04:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Same dispatcher screws the pooch again and makes the papers in the process. Maybe he's looking for a job in media relations. Seems this exact same dispatcher from the 10-1 fiasco has again screwed up a foot chase by State Police. Nice job. We thought your actions may some day get an officer killed. Now I think that your goal is to actually get an officer killed or injured. Glad you are 0 for 2 loser. Also happy that all officers are Ok despite your innatention to duty and incompetence.

9/16/2009 02:38:00 PM  

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