Zekman Investigation
Well, this explains what she was doing in 006:
- There's a huge shortage of police officers in Chicago. The city is down by as many as 2,000 every day.
But just what impact is that having on the streets? [...]
Officially, the department refuses to disclose how many officers are actually patrolling the streets, saying that would be like giving troop strengths to the enemy. But apparently there aren't enough.
Duh. Thanks for catching up Pam. Evidently, she read Fran Spielman's article a few weeks ago about manpower shortages, something we've been pointing out for over two years now. And how bad is the shortage? People are waiting 30 to 90 minutes for reports following calls of an incidents "in progress" or "just occurred." While the immediacy of the situation may be past, you can't really explain that to a citizen who just had a gun stuck in their faces.
- Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis said he's aware of the issue.
"Well, I'm not losing sleep at night, but I say I'm nervous because we track it every day," he said.
Way to look concerned and in touch with the issue J-Fed! Your concern is a tribute to your mercenary ways of breezing into town, grabbing almost a cool million over 3 years, and riding out of town in a flurry of statistical reports, policy groups and broken promises.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
124 Comments:
This fucking retard never ceases to amaze. Could you possibly be even more arrogant and say you arent losing sleep. Maybe you were asleep during the benefit last week because I sure didnt see you there!
"Well, I'm not losing sleep at night..."
Of course you aren't, you fucking shill. You're collecting a cool million smackers for being little more than than a lapdog patsy.
I guess it's easy to sleep soundly when you can come to terms with and ultimately accept the fact that you're a coward, sellout, wannabe, never-has-been-nor-will-be Chicago copper that has sold what little soul you may have once possessed to the biggest thief to ever hold public office.
"...but I say I'm nervous because we track it every day".
Bullshit. If our dire manpower shortage would have been addressed with the urgency your statement suggests, the general public would have known about this problem a long time ago. And maybe public outcry would've shamed the Mumbling Midget into somewhat replenishing our dwindled ranks. The only things you're nervous about is getting called-out on your attempted pension grab of the REAL POLICE'S money and maybe suffering collateral damage courtesy of the guy on the 5th floor that pulls your strings.
And about the only thing that you're tracking on a daily basis is your Countdown Calendar to when you can leave this cesspool of a city and move on to another illustrious position in (hopefully) a land far, far away.
A tip of my hat to Mr. Henry Bowman for reminding me again (although I already know it and hold it as Gospel) to NEVER, EVER, EVER TRUST A FED.
What about all the money the mayor has saved under this shortage? It's sooooo bad now and it's scary to think how short we will be next year when hords of P.O.'s retire. we are back logged all night and at times we feel very alone. What king daley is doing to chicago should be a crime.
Just wait until the wave of retirements happens. We will be literally on life support.
If anything major happens in Chicago,IE. riots, terrorist incident, plane crash, rail tanker catastrophe, blackouts, etc. we are finished.
All Pam has to do is start a web site and publish here.
Wanna see who is working?
My district has 1 man midnight cars all night.
25 districts = 400 maybe 500 cops on the streets from 2300-0700 for the whole city
I like this quote from Weis:
"If we could get to the point where we reduce our number of responses to 911, it would be like making our police force bigger," he said.
I agree we answer to many non-police calls but this is his answer to the shortage? How about we buy some inflatable cars also and park them on the corners in hot spots. It would be like doubling our police force.
oh yeah j-fed is not losing any sleep at night--- what if the dorks mother was robbed at gun point and the "one man" beat car showed up an hour later to do a report--- bad guy is long gone and momma has a piece of paper that is worthless---
OT about the awards: yes some of the awards are bullshit. Just think of it from an individual perspective as long as you are a hard working P.O. You never took this job for the glory, you took it because it was in your blood to do good for the common person which included all races and social economic status. The REAL POLICE know when they have done right. They know when they truely earned that reward and when it is bullshit. Some things will never change but one thing that will remain constant is going out there and taking the shithead off the street that can potentially rape your daughter or rob your wife. Although the politics of this department are fucked up dont forget the reason you took the test in the first place. For those who say the the 1st and the 16th, you are bullshiting yourself because no one came on for the pay.
do you want a factual number. 2476blue shirts short. belive it or dont thats the number. so for all on here saying its 3 or 4 or ive even heard 5 thousand blue shirts its not. its 2676 blue shirts. combine that with how many we are short with sgts, lts, cpts etc and what other specialty spots out there then im sure the number will be much higher. but for boots on the ground wearing blue thats the number. For gods sake people, its not all that hard to figure out.. acutally, if you just use some basic math formulas and do some good research you can figure it out in about a half hour or so. so, if you dont belive me, just do the numbers yourself.. just make sure your looking at the right numbers in the right spots... and please. dont use your PC numbers to attempt to figure it out!! no paper trail boys and girls
Yeah, and none of would be losing sleep over it if we all lived/or could even considering living where that man does.
Thank you very much.
In order to loose sleep he would have to give a fuck!!
Nothing will change until some hotshot bigwig gets jacked and there are no cars available to kiss his/her ass.
Just wait until the Aldermanic and the Mayoral Elections occur. I have been educating all of my customers, on each and every job that I handle. There are many, many pissed off voters out there. They are not as stupid as the "Chicago Machine" thinks either.
Don't forget to educate all of your customers and to remind them that it's all the Alderman and Mayor's fault.
Walter Jacobson's commentary on Channel 2 news Friday was too head on, I don't even care for the man himself, but after Friday, if he ran for Mayor I'd vote for him, just for that little number alone!!!
http://cbs2chicago.com/video/?id=64678@wbbm.dayport.com
Awesome!!!
Walter Jacobson on Mayor Daley!!!!
The next copper who falls victim to the manpower crisis needs to make sure that their family files suit. I have given my wife explicit instructions on what to do.
More PO's will die because of this shortage. We are expendable to these political whores though.
Some people have said that there are over 13,000 sworn on the job because that's how many are making pension contributions every payday.
Now if Jody and Masters and the rest of the FBI MAFIA are in our pension fund and they shouldn't be, maybe they are other bloodsuckers in there who were planted by Shortshanks. People who do political jobs who never were the police who are getting paid and will draw a pension they didn't earn.
Is Jody and Masters still in our pension fund? Are they in a plot to draw a 50-75% pension at our expense for the rest of their lives?
Hey Zekman, investigate that!
When the hell is the city going to have another written examination? My source within the department tells me that, of the remaining 06 testers waiting to be hired, it's somewhere in the low 300's.
That may not sound like a low number considering this last few hiring cycles (under 50 this year, 80 projected for 2010), but you figure the department can't continue letting hundreds retire without reasonably replacing lost manpower.
A significant problem that arises here with a limited pool of applicants is, until the next batch of testers are on the streets, these 06er's will have to be stretched. This means if there isn't a test until 2011, and the first officer from it doesn't reach the street until 2013, the city will have no choice BUT to hire a small amount of officers. ATLEAST 300 officers retire yearly. When's the last time CPD came close to matching that with hirees?
The same source also suggested that a 2010 test is being tossed about, but nothing is certain as of yet.
Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis said he's aware of the issue.
"Well, I'm not losing sleep at night,....
What a great civic leader this person is...not.
There has not been a detective class for two years now.
Look another city scam to collect additional interest on our money:
slow to credit workers' retirement plan accounts
QI am a Chicago police officer and will retire soon with a 457(b) plan. The city deducts my deferral every payday but does not credit my 457(b) for seven to 10 days. We have the same administrator as the (suburban) Naperville Police Department, and officers there have their contributions posted the day they get paid. Is the city earning interest on my money?
W.H.
AA Naperville Police Department spokeswoman confirmed that department does credit contributions on payday, as do many larger employers. But that doesn't help you much.
Chicago has no immediate plans to speed such deposits, said Peter Scales, a city spokesman. City employees are paid in two groups twice each month, he said. The first group gets paid on the first day of the month, the second a week later. After the second group gets paid, all contributions are bundled and sent to Nationwide, which processes and deposits the contributions.
Scales said he doesn't know why the process works this way but said the city does not earn interest on the money.
What's your recourse? These plans aren't covered by the 1974 federal law governing qualified retirement plans such as 401(k) accounts, but they do file some paperwork with the Labor Department, so you could try calling the department's Employee Benefits Security Administration (regional offices are listed here: www.dol.gov/ebsa/aboutebsa/org_chart.html#section13 ). Also, IRS rules for 457 plans require that plans make deposits in a "reasonable" time frame, though that can be murky. The IRS National Taxpayer Advocate help line is 877-777-4778.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/yourmoney/chi-tc-biz-ym-journey-1115nov15,0,2605625.story
the buck stops w/ the mayor.
The only reason we're seeing these reports on manpower now is because Daley told them they could do a limited version of it to bolster his excuse about a fair contract and retirees.
It's all more Daley bullshit and it will disappear when the arbiter rules. Guatanteed.
Of course Jfed isn't losing sleep!
He gets to carry a gun! Heck he can even get away with dressing up and pretending to be a CPD officer!
Now if I were to try that I would end up in jail.
Let's try to remember the original homeland security is still the 2nd ammendment!
Smooth statement Jody. Should enrage the (taxpaying) masses, and be your springboard to oblivion.
If the mayor wants, of course.
And our fearless leader wants us to take mandatory furlough days. Its not brain surgery people!!!
.....and what are the members of the police board (Carouthers and Rugai) doing about this travesty..............NOTHING!
..."If we could get to the point where we reduce our number of responses to 911, it would be like making our police force bigger," he (Weis) said.
Must have taken a page from the chapter "Fudging the numbers: Taxpayers are dumb" right out of Daley's anthology
ive noticed alot of "officers" are becoming victims!
DONT 4 GET WHERE U LIVE!
THEY WILL KICK IN THE 110 DOLLAR DOOR
2 GET UR 1500$ FLATSCREEN.
BUY AN ALARM THAT MAKES SOME NOISE...
DONT SUBSCRIBE TO ADT ITS A WASTE.
HAVE SECURE DOOR FRAMES AND A REAL DOOR!
BUY A VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM THEY COST VERY LITTLE NOW.
PAY ATTENTION ON THE STREETS AND CARRY UR WEAPONS.
QUIT SCREWING W/ UR CELL PHONE AND BE AWARE OF UR SURROUNDINGS.
DONT BE THE POLICE OFF DUTY UNLESS UR ABLE TO PULL THE TRIGGER.
WE HAVE GOTTEN VERY SOFT AND FEAR LAWSUITS BUT SOMETIMES U HAVE 2 DO WHAT U HAVE 2 DO!
One of the many reasons we are short is the medical section itself. It sends out IOD information to a company called Coventry for review and they decide, not the Doctor, if a Officer needs surgery or not. Coventry is known to routinely deny surgery causing a Officer to be on the medical many times longer then needed and in many cases the denial of surgery has caused a Officer to be duty disabled.
I know personally of 2 instances where this has happened. One was where surgery was denied for so long when it was finally approved it was too late for a 100% fix. The Officer was told by the doctor that if he got the surgery when the injury first happened that he would have been able to go back full duty. Now he is on Permanent Disability. The other one I know has not had the surgery, his time on IOD was up and he had to go Duty Disability. If he would have gotten the surgery he too would have been back to work.
These are the only 2 that I personally know of but how many times has this happened. The city thinks they are saving the cost of the surgery but in their shortsightedness they are costing the Police Dept and Taxpayers a lot more.
Weis is not losing sleep, partially because he gets a million dollars for nothing, and partially because he doesnt live in any of the affected areas:
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/11/rash-of-violence-spreads-throughout-city-overnight-after-stop-the-violence-day.html
Shortage? How about screening the calls. Those "Men with guns calls" from disconnected cellphones should be ignored. In fact all calls from disconnected phones should not be allowed through. Also those calls which are civil in nature should be ignored too. This would cut the backlog in half.
Can't she get the the number of officer through the freedom of information act? It should be public knowledge. Our salaries are public knowledge.
Hey pam. I will tell you right here and now. We are short handed everywhere. Cars running 99 when they should be 10-4.
J Fed is laying out a smokescreen as previously posted to come in, conquer $930,000.00 and leave not concerning himself with this city and where it will be be 5 years down the line.
Its a shame that the police dept is being guided by a man who has no concern for the men and women he leads and most definitely has no concern about the citizens since he will not be here once his contract expires.
Shame on da mare for putting a man like this to lead one of the greatest police departments in the country.
Hey pam we are down in huge numbers and they have us down reporting crime. One example of this is aggravated batteries which over the last few years have been changed to aggravated assaults when someone shoots at someone and misses. the intent was to shoot and hit someone but just luck had the bullet miss instead of strike the mark.
Pam, I will tell you this. If it werent for the dedicated and hard work of the men and women on the streets day in and day out this city would be in ruins.
j fed could care less about this city, and da mare who is fastly approaching 70 isnt thinking ahead either.
This city is a mess and J Fed and da mare get on tv and lie on a regular basis. do you really think crime is down with the recession in full bloom and the unemployment rate over 10%.
J fed and da mare must think they are the only two intelligent people in this city.
Well I have news for them, they arent. For them to think they can pull the wool over our eyes they are actually the two dumbest bastards this city has ever known.
the definition of irony?
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009/11/rash-of-violence-spreads-throughout-city-overnight-after-stop-the-violence-day.html
PUT TACTICAL TEAMS IN UNIFORM BEAT CARS TO AUGMENT THE PATROL OFFICERS. ARRESTS GO DOWN BUT CITIZENS GET BETTER SERVICE. BIG DEAL NO MORE NICKLE BAG ARRESTS.
Not the Police just a citizen who waited 90 minutes to file a robbery report
1. Pam should have gone the 3rd District not the 6th. 40 bid openings on paper but closer to 70 actual openings
2. Pam should have gone over to 39th Street then. The entire TRU was stolen from patrol. I have no problem with the kids there except they are not realistic on their roles. They are just a revenue machine for the city ANOV’s and parkers. If the city had gone from 13,500 to 13,750 no problem. But what would every D/C do with five extra cars up in the District on 3rd Watch?
3. Pam should have gone over to Homan Square. A lot of secret squirrel units over there too. Again great concept but the city stole people from patrol to man those son of supervisor units.
4. Pam should have gone over to city hall too! How many people protecting Daley? How many people detailed to the feds? If you have 7 years on the job the city charges them for the 30 year rate. The city makes money every hour you work for them so they have no concern over the ot they make.
5. Pam should have gone over to 35th street too. CAPS office (a dead meat program), fusion room, accountability office, coppers working on commuters as civilians?
6. Pam should have gone over to any area and see how the chief has a little army working for them. The used to only have one P.O. ten years ago. Now they have 40 people.
Pam should interview any off duty P.O. who has called 911 and there was no one to send because every car in the district was down and had 3 or 4 more jobs stacked because of every B.S. job we take from mr/mrs anonymous.
J-Fed should have gone to hell and Daley should go with him too.
The
Revolver
Police
P.S. J-Fed and Daley thanks for showing up at Alex’s fund raiser. Shortshanks thanks for never once coming to St. Jude. But you always make a big splash for those convicted felons from the 11th ward every time the had a fund raiser for their families as the were going to the joint.
Citizens waiting 60-90 minutes for a report?.... There have been times that I have been given a call where someone has been robbbed pistol whipped,, called 911, noone showed, went to hospita got treated, no one showed and went home and still waited for the police! And many more like that!
Thanks SCC for your incredible threads this Sunday morning. However, I was just over at the Tribunes 'Breaking News' link and they csertainly outdid you with 'Mayhem spreads throughout city...' I feel I'm living in Gotham city, with no Batman or Robin. Better go check it out before the 5th floor phone calls make them take it off.
Read November's Fop newsletter, Greg Bella says we are short approximately 591 officers. He also says we have 11,500 dedicated men and women on the dept. Hey Greg, why was there only 9,285 uniform checks given out last time? You can lie to the media and public, but don't lie to the membership. We'll remember this at election time Greg.
SCC,
Just an idea...can you start a countdown meter for the expiration of J-Fed's contract? Just some eye-candy for everyone who stops by the blog, and a little sparkle of hope in something to look forward to.
Any eleventh hours petitions for the aldermanic referendum?
Bring them to my highrise condo building on the southwest corner of Clark St. and Armitage Ave. (1960 Lincoln Park West) and leave the sealed envelope with the doorman behind the desk in the lobby. Be sure to have my name JOHN NORTHEN on the envelope with your legible name, address and telephone number/eMail address in the upper left hand corner of the envelope or inside the envelope itself.
I will post the cumulative count of signatures sometime tomorrow night.
JOHN NORTHEN
1960 LINCOLN PARK WEST
CHICAGO, IL 60614
Is the 4-2 on or not? We were told in 023 on Friday by our union rep K.G. that it was signed on Friday but part of the signing was that when it takes effect, we will be swiping out. Also shortshanks was besides himself because of this signing! Any truth to this at all?
This city is not the NEXT DETROIT, at this point, CHICAGO IS WORSE THAN DETROIT! Look at "Chicago Breaking News" for the MAYHEM on Saturday night!
no problem; just declare Chicago to be a 'crime-free" zone; look how well that works with "gun-free" zones.
They are not as stupid as the "Chicago Machine" thinks either.
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Yes, they are. Take this to the bank, the mayor and all his aldermen will win their re-election.
You're right that the citizens aren't as dumb as the machine thinks they are. They are actually dumber.
Do not worry about posting your 457 funds- worry about the city owning them. Until you retire, those are the city's funds. There have been attempts by cities on the west cost to use them for collateral but these attempts have so far failed.
That is not your money until you retire.
old retired guy
Last week I was on that OPY detail in 003 and 006. We rolled by these rental cops that were apparently handling calls. This was very weird. Maybe the mayor wants this all over.
Thanks Pam!
We are thousands short and not a word of another test for police officer. It takes almost 2 years to test, screen, process, and go through the academy, what is Daley thinking! In 2 years we will be another 2000 short and that is if they started testing right now so it looks more like 4000 short by 2012. Back each other up, that's all we can do since the city can care less about us!
Man charged in brick-throwing that injured girl
Frederick Evans, 20, of the 6800 block of South Ada Street was found shot to death
Man was shot at about 12:13 a.m. on Chicago's West Side. He suffered wounds to his leg and thigh
Howard Hodges, of Park Forest, was shot to death & another man also was shot in front of the lounge located in the 8300 block of S. Vincennes; suffered a wound to his shoulder.
Two people were stabbed in the Englewood neighborhood in the 6600 block of S.Carpenter.
Three people were shot in the Brighton Park neighborhood at about 5 a.m. near 47th and Homan.
The media folks have police scanners. They are not deaf. Crime is down because people leave because they are tired of waiting for us to respond. 1A jobs in backlog for a long time. I'm waiting for someone to get killed waiting for police response. That will be the only thing that brings the issue to the headlines.
Just wait until the Aldermanic and the Mayoral Elections occur. I have been educating all of my customers, on each and every job that I handle. There are many, many pissed off voters out there. They are not as stupid as the "Chicago Machine" thinks either.
--I do the same. I point the finger in the direction it should be pointed (The Mayor who controls hiring). The alderpeople who are the mouthpieces of the citizens in the community.
we are short approximately 591 officers. He also says we have 11,500 dedicated men and women on the dept. Hey Greg, why was there only 9,285 uniform checks given out last time? You can lie to the media and public, but don't lie to the membership. We'll remember this at election time Greg.
Who are you kidding? We wont remember shit. We dont stick together. FOP should be dropped like a bad habit! We will get 4 & 2 and we will give something up for it. Mark no pun intended my words.
How come nobody is asking Shortshanks where the extra money in the police budget went? If we're budgeted for13,500, Shortshanks and JFed routinely use this figure, yet we are operating hundreds if not thousands less than that then where has that budgeted money gone? Inquiring minds and fed up coppers would like to know.
By allowing the department to become this understaffed Shortshanks has in effect layed off a thousand officers or more over the last few years. Yet he still has the balls to stand at a podium and say police need to take 25 unpaid furlo days and complain that the police need to become part of the solution not the problem! If he really wants to face the problem head on he needs to take a long look in the mirror. I mean a regular mirror not the Riverview type mirror he's got to distort things his way.
Shortshanks is the weakest he's ever been in his 20 years in office. That hugely embarassing Olympic loss was like a sledgehammer to his nuts. The Tribune,in it's editorials, is asking about all the T.I.F. money and telling Shortshanks it's our money open up the real books. Walter Jacobsen lambasted Shortshanks in his Sunday night perspective saying how could a supposed polished politician do so many dumb things?
As I said Ritchie is weak and wounded right now. We need to keep piling on and not let up. The more the public becomes aware of this idiots lies and misrepresentations the better off we all might be in the long run.
Its easy to figure out!! said...
do you want a factual number. 2476blue shirts short. belive it or dont thats the number. so for all on here saying its 3 or 4 or ive even heard 5 thousand blue shirts its not. its 2676 blue shirts. combine that with how many we are short with sgts, lts, cpts etc and what other specialty spots out there then im sure the number will be much higher. but for boots on the ground wearing blue thats the number. For gods sake people, its not all that hard to figure out.. acutally, if you just use some basic math formulas and do some good research you can figure it out in about a half hour or so. so, if you dont belive me, just do the numbers yourself.. just make sure your looking at the right numbers in the right spots... and please. dont use your PC numbers to attempt to figure it out!! no paper trail boys and girls
11/15/2009 02:37:00
Your wonderful Fop says 591 short, and they're "supposed" to be on our side. Please remember that at election time people.
Pam, go visit Greg Bella at the F.O.P. He claims we are 11,500 strong with only 591 officers short. Those numbers are in print in the union newsletter this month. Ask him why only 9,285 uniform allowance checks were printed. Pam, we are used to being lied to by our Mayor, and bosses, but by our own union? Unforgivable. Show us that you care, push this issue. It has become a safety issue on the street for cops and citizens of Chicago. You may save lives. God bless.
S.C.C., Please make a posting for the P.O.s out there on how the Fop followed suit with Daley and Weis in saying we are only 591 officers short. Bella claims we are 11,500 strong. He lied like Daley and Weis did to the members. This won't be tolerated by me and should not by all union members.
Anonymous said...
I like this quote from Weis:
"If we could get to the point where we reduce our number of responses to 911, it would be like making our police force bigger," he said.
I agree we answer to many non-police calls but this is his answer to the shortage? How about we buy some inflatable cars also and park them on the corners in hot spots. It would be like doubling our police force.
11/15/2009 01:35:00 AM
In 1956 I said that preventive patrol and rapid response to calls would be effective, creating a sense of police omnipresence among criminals. Now get your call box keys and check your lead hollow point .38 cal bullets and go out and be omnipresent.
Well I'm not losing sleep either.
I live by four axioms,
protect my family,
protect myself,
protect my coworkers,
go home the same way I came to work.
The police get no support from elected officials, department brass, or the citizens.
If your elected officials don't care about the safety of the citizens why should anyone else.
Anonymous said...
The next copper who falls victim to the manpower crisis needs to make sure that their family files suit. I have given my wife explicit instructions on what to do.
More PO's will die because of this shortage. We are expendable to these political whores though.
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I agree, every time i sign up for a class or training and get denied or unseccesful bid on e-learning or in-service training, i print it and save it. CPD is the only department that denies its officers training.
why does cpd have captains
most exempts are lieutenants , civilians or were captains for less than a year
city promotes about 10-15 captains,20 lieutenants , 40 sergeants and hires 50 new police officers
close some districts , jfed don't know how many are hid in front offices , caps etc in every district
oh yeah j-fed is not losing any sleep at night--- what if the dorks mother was robbed at gun point and the "one man" beat car showed up an hour later to do a report--- bad guy is long gone and momma has a piece of paper that is worthless--
So if the cops got there 2 minutes later, caught the bad guy, and got the old lady's shit back, would it make her feel better? NO! How about preventing said robbery from occuring???Stop hanging in the station for hours on bullshit dope, drinkers, and pisser arrests, and be out there where DECENT people are being victimized.
Off Topic
My sources tell me that the 017th District 3rd Watch W/C (KB) is calling officers in & telling them that if their activity does not improve he will have to place them in the "Personnal Concern" Program. Is this action a threat making the 3rd Watch a Hostile Work Enviroment, an EEOC Complaint or both. Is he acting on his own or with the Commanders Orders? Just asking??
Not a copper from 017.
OT about the awards: yes some of the awards are bullshit. Just think of it from an individual perspective as long as you are a hard working P.O. You never took this job for the glory, you took it because it was in your blood to do good for the common person which included all races and social economic status. The REAL POLICE know when they have done right. They know when they truely earned that reward and when it is bullshit. Some things will never change but one thing that will remain constant is going out there and taking the shithead off the street that can potentially rape your daughter or rob your wife. Although the politics of this department are fucked up dont forget the reason you took the test in the first place. For those who say the the 1st and the 16th, you are bullshiting yourself because no one came on for the pay.
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Sorry to rain on your parade. I came on for the pay over 20 years ago and so did almost everyone I know. I worked in a dying industry and wanted a layoff proof job. I also find the best cops know this is just a JOB and don't assign some higher purpose to it.
I remember my first day in the academy an instructor had each of us get up and say why we took this job. Only one person expressed your sentiments and the instructor scoffed at him. Even though it was my first day I thought to myself this guy must be from out of town, this is Chicago a city of angles not honor. Sorry but I think you are the one who is bullshitting himself.
wasn't j-booty just running his yap in the media last week about how concerned he was about manpower dipping below acceptable levels when many po's put their par forms in next year---- now he is " not losing sleep " a week later--- sounds like daley put j-fed on his lap and gave him a little fatherly advice--- while daley is a babbling greasy poor excuse for an irishman, he is a pro when it comes to manipulating the media for his own personal gain--- daley has to be yanking his hair out every time this j-fed opens his mouth in a public venue because he always says the wrong thing..... you never tell them the truth, only what they want to hear....
Jody Weiss strikes me as the Lovie Smith of police leadership.
Now lets see, we are well over 1000 men short, but we are still budgeted for them, where has the money been dibverted to?
Damn! Walter Jacobsen came out swinging against Daley in his "Persepective" last Friday night! The most scathing attack on Shortshanks in the media yet!
YES, THE SHORT MAN CAN BE BEATEN
IN 2011!!!!!
We are ALL doing twice the work and less pay and you want us to continue to do more for less! WTF? Are you nuts? JFed, even if he took 30 days unpaid, he would still triple my salary and I work the street every fucking day! WTF Mayor Daley? What the fuck does Mike Masters do or Beatrice Cuello? Why have Deputy Superintendents and 2 First Deputies and a Chief of Staff. Start the fuck there!
How can you continue to shit on us and expect us to do our jobs? THe Exempts don't say shit because they want those gold stars. They work 90 plus hours a week for about $3.00 an hour! They are so fucking stupid, they don't realize they are being fucked. Held accountable for shit they CANNOT impact!
I hope they do make us take even one day. I will go on the fucking medical for a whole year and so will all of my other P.O. friends. The city will fucking shut down because we can't strike but we can use our rights! I don't care if I don't get paid either. Take my medical days from me so I can stop running, chasing, or exerting ANY additional energy. I will make sure I put my reason on my fucking case report! I will definitely make Sergeant next class and gues what, I will make sure I groom all of the people I supervise the same fucking way! Asshole!
We are FUCKED until Superintendent Jodi Weis, Chief of Staff Mike Masters, Assistant Superintendent Beatrice Cuello and Deputy Superintendent Ted O'Keefe are gone!
The veil is coming down. SCC has been/is a catalyst for pulling back the curtains of a corrupt system and city government. The question is where has all the money gone that was budgeted for these 2000 officers? And how many years has this con game been going on? 40-50k X 2000 X years short + alot of stolen money by the city! Where's it at Richie Rich?
Anonymous said...
"One of the many reasons we are short is the medical section itself. It sends out IOD information to a company called Coventry for review and they decide, not the Doctor, if a Officer needs surgery or not. Coventry is known to routinely deny surgery causing a Officer to be on the medical many times longer then needed..."
11/15/2009 08:08:00 AM
Once when they were dragging their feet on my medical treatment, the union advised me to file a medical grievance. I did and the problem was resolved in a few weeks.
There were 4 tests given in 2006. Only one has been depleted and there are still 3 remaining lists. They started to take off the 2nd list in April but that class was postponed as nobody has been hired since then
Bottom line Three remaining lists although each of those lists is not as large as the Feb 2006 list
CPD is offering officers that have resigned in the past 3 years a chance to come back. That would add roughly 250-300 officers.
hey jody, you might not be losing sleep at night, but you know who is? My wife is losing sleep when im out working 99 in a busy ghetto district. Its not always about you. She is terrified that I have to work by myself on midnights in the ghetto.
Hey Pam "hobbit" zekman why don't you investigate dees.
dees nuts!
OT: What the word on the 4-2 work schedule?
*****The REAL POLICE know when they have done right*******.
Bravo Zulu, Bravo Zulu....
SCC world and visitors this is the view of 90% of CPD. The rest of the BS on here is the 10% who never worked, chased a bad guy, or got out of the car in the darken alley. This is also the 75% who complain on this site.....
Bravo Zulu is US Navy Navigational code for, "WELL DONE"
A little off-topic, but I just need to thank the officers from the 016th district (tac team too)and whatever dispatcher handled my 911 call for the outstanding job they did on 14NOV09. After I got home from work, I was in my living room watching television (I currently reside in beat 1622) when an unknown M/1 opened my screen door and attempted to forcefully enter my home. I opened the door and addressed the situation ;), stating that he did not belong at this house. The unknown M/1 then attempted to find another way into my home. I immediately called 911 and gave the best description I could. Within one minute, tactical officers had arrived and gave a flash based on my description, which allowed for other officers involved to immediately apprehend the offender within 5 blocks from my residence. All officers involved went above and beyond their duties, and were very quick in their response. I want to extend my gratitude. It's because of officers like yourselves that allow for me to leave the slums of this city and come home to this great neighborhood. All people currently residing in the 016th District should be aware that the a**hole who did this had addresses of arrest/residence in the 010th, 011th, and 012th districts. So the officers here are dealing with the same garbage that we are everywhere else in the city. Also, please understand that when housing markets crash, criminals come here, just like in 008. These are wonderful neighborhoods with good people living here, but it is not the fault of officers that they manage to make their way over here. So again, thank you to all of you. You're doing a wonderful job and there are people like me in this district that really appreciate your hard work and dedication to your job. Your job is more important that any other on the department because you're defending the home front, which truly makes you heroes. God bless you and your families, and God bless the C.P.D. (and C.F.D. too).
K.M. (153)
Chicago Police Superintendent Jody Weis said he's aware of the issue.
"Well, I'm not losing sleep at night,....
GUESS NOT, AS LONG AS YOUR WALLET IS GETTING THICKER AND THICKER. DOES THIS ASSHOLE EVER ATTEND FUND RAISERS OR HELP THE HOMELESS? BETTCHA NOT.
Anonymous B CUELLO SON IN LAW said...
ive noticed alot of "officers" are becoming victims!
DONT 4 GET WHERE U LIVE!
THEY WILL KICK IN THE 110 DOLLAR DOOR
2 GET UR 1500$ FLATSCREEN.
BUY AN ALARM THAT MAKES SOME NOISE...
DONT SUBSCRIBE TO ADT ITS A WASTE.
HAVE SECURE DOOR FRAMES AND A REAL DOOR!
BUY A VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM THEY COST VERY LITTLE NOW.
PAY ATTENTION ON THE STREETS AND CARRY UR WEAPONS.
QUIT SCREWING W/ UR CELL PHONE AND BE AWARE OF UR SURROUNDINGS.
DONT BE THE POLICE OFF DUTY UNLESS UR ABLE TO PULL THE TRIGGER.
WE HAVE GOTTEN VERY SOFT AND FEAR LAWSUITS BUT SOMETIMES U HAVE 2 DO WHAT U HAVE 2 DO!
11/15/2009 07:56:00 AM
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Do what I do. Have 2 very large dogs. Better than a burglar alarm.
Get rid of the gun and sat teams. They should be put back in the district along with their sergeants. That's a lot of added manpower right there. They aren't needed anyway.
Cops in 017 Dist dont do shit Dont eevn help fellow off duty cops So its like having no police at all!! And Crime is on the rise!! Even in Saugnash! Bye Bye Mikey Meahler
The comparisons to 1939 Germany fall under the category of nonsense that won't be published. People tend to ignore the fact that over 20 million people perished under one of the worst regimes in history and comparing Chicago politics to the nazi aberration is insulting to the dead of World War II.
Find another comparison please.
The contract say we dont have to work one man cars on certain watches. Lets refuse and see what happens.
To 2:46 PM
You are welcome. But as you are aware shitbird WAS from Abla projects in 012. Guess where he hangs out now, you guessed it projects off of Central. Get used to it, it was a great place to live but like rest of 016 is going to shit thanks to section 8!!!!!
hey jody, you might not be losing sleep at night, but you know who is? My wife is losing sleep when im out working 99 in a busy ghetto district. Its not always about you. She is terrified that I have to work by myself on midnights in the ghetto.
11/15/2009 02:16:00 PM
So bid out hero
There is no shortage of manpower!!!
I, you beloved Mayor for Life, recently counted my personal police servants, drivers, valets, and buttboys and guess what? They were all there. so you can plainly see, there is no shortage.
My boy masters counted them as well and he agrees wth me. So there!
In 1985, the killing of Simeon basketball star Ben Wilson, brought such an uproar in the city, that eventually, nearly 1300 police officers were hired in the following year of 1986.
The police academy was packed to the roof with recruits.
Now 25 years later, as the Slumtimes reports, kids are still geeting killed and not much has changed in the city.
We are down thousands of police officers, those recruits hired in 1986 are retiring, or have retired , and kids are still getting killed.
How long has shortshanks been the mayor?
Will the games he plays with other people lives ever stop?
Will it have to take the killing of some politically connected donors kid, to convice shortshanks and jfed, this is all for real?
"do you want a factual number. 2476blue shirts short. belive it or dont thats the number. so for all on here saying its 3 or 4 or ive even heard 5 thousand blue shirts its not. its 2676 blue shirts."
Blue shirts or shorts?? 2476 or 2676?? Witch is it?
A little off-topic, but I just need to thank the officers from the 016th district (tac team too)and whatever dispatcher handled my 911 call for the outstanding job they did on 14NOV09. After I got home from work, I was in my living room watching television (I currently reside in beat 1622) when an unknown M/1 opened my screen door and attempted to forcefully enter my home. I opened the door and addressed the situation ;), stating that he did not belong at this house. The unknown M/1 then attempted to find another way into my home. I immediately called 911 and gave the best description I could. Within one minute, tactical officers had arrived and gave a flash based on my description, which allowed for other officers involved to immediately apprehend the offender within 5 blocks from my residence. All officers involved went above and beyond their duties, and were very quick in their response. I want to extend my gratitude. It's because of officers like yourselves that allow for me to leave the slums of this city and come home to this great neighborhood. All people currently residing in the 016th District should be aware that the a**hole who did this had addresses of arrest/residence in the 010th, 011th, and 012th districts. So the officers here are dealing with the same garbage that we are everywhere else in the city. Also, please understand that when housing markets crash, criminals come here, just like in 008. These are wonderful neighborhoods with good people living here, but it is not the fault of officers that they manage to make their way over here. So again, thank you to all of you. You're doing a wonderful job and there are people like me in this district that really appreciate your hard work and dedication to your job. Your job is more important that any other on the department because you're defending the home front, which truly makes you heroes. God bless you and your families, and God bless the C.P.D. (and C.F.D. too).
K.M. (153)
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Why is he still among the living????
Is the 4-2 on or not? We were told in 023 on Friday by our union rep K.G. that it was signed on Friday but part of the signing was that when it takes effect, we will be swiping out. Also shortshanks was besides himself because of this signing! Any truth to this at all?
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4 and 2 is on but the reason the Mayor is livid is because J-Fed didn't get anthing for the city in return.
Anonymous said...
.....and what are the members of the police board (Carouthers and Rugai) doing about this travesty..............NOTHING!
Boy are you a bright one. There are NO alderman on the Police Board, only civilians. Shut up until you know what you are talking about and know how to use the correct titles!
My sources tell me that the 017th District 3rd Watch W/C (KB) is calling officers in & telling them that if their activity does not improve he will have to place them in the "Personnal Concern" Program.
Call him on it! If the entire watch is a "Personnal Concern" it will be good-bye Captain.
do you want a factual number. 2476blue shirts short. belive it or dont thats the number. so for all on here saying its 3 or 4 or ive even heard 5 thousand blue shirts its not. its 2676 blue shirts. combine that with how many we are short with sgts, lts, cpts etc and what other specialty spots out there then im sure the number will be much higher. but for boots on the ground wearing blue thats the number. For gods sake people, its not all that hard to figure out.. acutally, if you just use some basic math formulas and do some good research you can figure it out in about a half hour or so. so, if you dont belive me, just do the numbers yourself.. just make sure your looking at the right numbers in the right spots... and please. dont use your PC numbers to attempt to figure it out!! no paper trail boys and girls
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Apparently it isn't that easy to figure out..You even posted two differant figures (2476 and 2676)
Nice try...Maybe try a calculator instead of paper and pencil as you suggested
off topic: please address this scc,officers in 017 dist. called in by 2nd watch comm. 3rd watch comm.about performance,giving neg reviews.. this is a hostile work enviroment.activity,activity,numbers.numbers
THAT BUDGET QUESTION IS A GREAT QUESTION?
BUT WHAT HAPPENED 2 THE 12 DISTRICT STATION THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET 3 YEARS AGO.
WHERE IS THE MONEY?
WHERE IS THE STATION?
CLASS OF SGT'S WERE IN THE BUDGET 4 THIS YEAR?
WHENS THE CLASS?
WHERE IS DA CASH NOT SPENT ON SGT'S GOING?
AND IF IT IS BUDGETED FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT J-FED SHOULD KNOW?
A CLOWN AT THE 911 CENTER WAS PULLING THIS SHIT W/ CASH AND USING IT FOR SOMETHING ELSE!
DOES THE 1ST OR 2ND OR 3RD DEPUTIES EVEN SEE A BUDGET! DO THEY EVEN KNOW HOW MUCH THE MAYOR IS STEALING!!!
WAS OLE TOMMY BYRNE THE SMART 1 AND FIGURED IT OUT HOW THE SYSTEM WORKS.... IT GOT HIM A NICE CUSHY JOB 4 HIS OLD ASS.
U DONT THINK HE KNEW A DAMNED THING ABOUT POTHOLE AND SNOW REMOVAL DO U!
SOMETIMES I THINK ARE EXEMPTS ARE JUST HAPPY TO HAVE AN OFFICE AND A BLACKBERRY!
If we are over 2000 officers short, how come there aren't a bunch of openings everytime bids come out?
Anonymous said...
CPD is offering officers that have resigned in the past 3 years a chance to come back. That would add roughly 250-300 officers.
11/15/2009 02:15:00 PM
There is one good one sitting in a concrete government building in Louisiana that would jump at the chance.
If I lived in a high-rise near 14th and Michigan Avenue . . . with a secured indoor heated garage. . .
and NO children . . .
. . . and $309,996.00 per annum, I really wouldn't be too fah-king worried about it either. . . . .
Fahking Capon!
PUT TACTICAL TEAMS IN UNIFORM BEAT CARS TO AUGMENT THE PATROL OFFICERS. ARRESTS GO DOWN BUT CITIZENS GET BETTER SERVICE. BIG DEAL NO MORE NICKLE BAG ARRESTS.
Then who the hell would be available to handle all those riduclous details such as: afternoon public school fights, Bud Billiken, Fiesta del Sol, etc.? It's a wonder why anyone would want to work tact these days. Very few perks for working screwed up hours. Only perk left is soft clothes and these are fleeting.
Dear Walter,
Chicago needs someone with the balls to tell it like it is. Please come back Walter Jacobsen, we need you. Do it like Andy Rooney, just do you're Perspective once or twice a week. We are in a state of emergency.
The "Freedom of Information Act," could really disclose the shortage we face everyday. Mr. Mayor Richard (DICK) M. Daley, myself as many other city employees are NOT voting for you this next election. You have lost touch, your mind, and your EMPLOYEES. We are passing the word to the city residents to do the same. I know the election is some time away, but during this time we're getting the word out. Vote you out, Stroger out, and the Alderman out!!! You remind me of SCROOGE, and your starting to look like him too!!! (JUST ANOTHER HAPPY CITY EMPLOYEE YOU SCREW WITH EVERYDAY.)
I LOVE this city and as being on the inside looking out scared about our future. To see the recent stories about PAM ZEKMAN probing the 6th District is hopefully a sign that MAYBE someone in the media is connecting the dots. As crazy as it sounds, she could bring light to the mismanagement of 100's of millions of local/federal dollars. We are for example, budgeted for 13,500 officers, but a conservative estimate shows the reality to be approximately 9,000. In addition why doesn't MRS ZEKMAN simply ask to see the odometers on the police vehicles? The safety of driving in a vehicle with 120,000 HARD miles is an accident waiting to happen. We aren't stupid or selfish we are just asking for basic essentials to do our jobs, and the people to do them.
Well what about Terrorism? Are we staffed to handle a major attack? Are we prepared? NO!!!
J-Fed = Liberal. Go Back To FLorida!!!
I tried to find the Human Resources Investigations Section on the sections web site. They have been taken off completely. I hear rumors that the background investigators are being replaced by outside vendors who will conduct the background investigations on new candidates. The Feds use outside vendors to conduct backgrounds so i guess it is good enough for us also.
"Dear Walter,
Chicago needs someone with the balls to tell it like it is. Please come back Walter Jacobsen"
DON'T KID YOURSELF, SKIPPY IS NO FRIEND OF THE POLICE
Leasing water system could be a risky move for Chicago
Mayor Richard Daley could learn from other cities' experiences.
SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY. CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THIS GOOF IS GONE.
Anonymous said...
I tried to find the Human Resources Investigations Section on the sections web site. They have been taken off completely. I hear rumors that the background investigators are being replaced by outside vendors who will conduct the background investigations on new candidates. The Feds use outside vendors to conduct backgrounds so i guess it is good enough for us also.
11/15/2009 08:56:00 PM
The Feds do use outside vendors but they are retired Feds.
Who in h@$ is doing the reporting for the news these days. The story about the mayhem in Chicago ended with this;
According to police, the man was shot in the LEG and THIGH.
At that moment Hennessy Williams(the ghetto playwright) turned to Red Pop Jackson stating, "Shiiii, that MF mustga gots shot in his bucketa KFC!"
006 was a good place to work until cynthia white came in and fucked it all up. mass migration worse then 003s numbers
If your elected officials don't care about the safety of the citizens why should anyone else.
11/15/2009 01:02:00 PM
Because they are POS elected officials and we are police and many of us at heart still want to do the job right even though everyone else from elected officials to media to the general public slowly grinds us down to where we dont give a shit.
Anonymous said...
"Dear Walter,
Chicago needs someone with the balls to tell it like it is. Please come back Walter Jacobsen"
DON'T KID YOURSELF, SKIPPY IS NO FRIEND OF THE POLICE
11/15/2009 10:18:00 PM
So long as he takes on the 5th floor of city hall, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Anonymous said...
Is the 4-2 on or not? We were told in 023 on Friday by our union rep K.G. that it was signed on Friday but part of the signing was that when it takes effect, we will be swiping out. Also shortshanks was besides himself because of this signing! Any truth to this at all?
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4 and 2 is on but the reason the Mayor is livid is because J-Fed didn't get anthing for the city in return.
11/15/2009 05:51:00 PM
Swiping out is OK since the swipe system doesn't connect to anything. They can tell if someone swipes out if someone looks at the mountain of data produced but there is no real system at the other end. Kronos is defunct, there is no automated system that can flag immediately if someone doesn't swipe. It is like pressing that little button to cross the street, it doesn't really do anything.
Have me swipe, so what, another ill conceived, poorly implemented, never maintained system. First installed 15 years ago and allowed to fade away. And so what if we do swipe and they hook it up to something useful? That won't stop me from screwing them for the 8.5 hours previous to swiping out.
Swipe this.
Anonymous said...
I like this quote from Weis:
"If we could get to the point where we reduce our number of responses to 911, it would be like making our police force bigger," he said.
I agree we answer to many non-police calls but this is his answer to the shortage? How about we buy some inflatable cars also and park them on the corners in hot spots. It would be like doubling our police force.
11/15/2009 01:35:00 AM
How about if you just don't answer the phone at 911 as often. It would be like fewer people are calling. Or switch them so an easy listening music station.
"Dear Walter,
Chicago needs someone with the balls to tell it like it is. Please come back Walter Jacobsen"
DON'T KID YOURSELF, SKIPPY IS NO FRIEND OF THE POLICE
11/15/2009 10:18:00 PM
He doesn't have to be a friend to the police, all he has to do is tell the truth.
Good idea. Shoot the lost, wasted and disoriented honor student outside your door. He was just trying to turn his like around and finally had the opportunity to move to a neighborhood away from the gang violence and the white mo-fo polices kilt him. Don't worry kid, the Dics will sort it out.
Well what about Terrorism? Are we staffed to handle a major attack? Are we prepared? NO!!!
11/15/2009 08:50:00 PM
No Illinois WANTS to actually bring more terrorists and imprison them here. Then in 2 years Quinn can close the prision and release all the terrorists to home monitoring...saving Illinois tax payers millions!
DON'T KID YOURSELF, SKIPPY IS NO FRIEND OF THE POLICE
11/15/2009 10:18:00 PM
"He doesn't have to be a friend to the police, all he has to do is tell the truth"
That will be a helluva threshold to cross he can't tell the truth when he's DUI'D. Crap in one hand & wish in the other see which one fills up first,Doofus.
DON'T KID YOURSELF, SKIPPY IS NO FRIEND OF THE POLICE
11/15/2009 10:18:00 PM
"He doesn't have to be a friend to the police, all he has to do is tell the truth"
That will be a helluva threshold to cross he can't tell the truth when he's DUI'D. Crap in one hand & wish in the other see which one fills up first,Doofus.
11/16/2009 10:00:00 PM
I'll take my chances on the crap (that I know is crap) in my hand over Shortshanks & Co. peeing on me and telling me that it's raining.
The comparisons to 1939 Germany fall under the category of nonsense that won't be published. People tend to ignore the fact that over 20 million people perished under one of the worst regimes in history and comparing Chicago politics to the nazi aberration is insulting to the dead of World War II.
Find another comparison please.
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I find it odd that you would feel so sensitive as to censor or refuse to post these comments, considering the amount of racism, sexism, and homophobia so often written and posted by other people.
Personally, I don't know what you have found that is so objectionalbe. No one in the current politico was called a nazi, and certainly no comparisons were made to the atrocities or genocide the Nazi's committed. What was made was a comparison between the way the Nazi's made a grab for complete power by hijacking a legitimate, criminal police agency and fusing it with a political one. This is, of course, the essence of totalitarian and fascist regimes. Certainly I could have made comparisons to Amin and Stalin. These comparisons, however, lack the inherent power and inpact, as well as immediate recogntion, that the Nazi's do.
The point of my posting was a comparison to a well known and terrible totalitarian regime. You seem to have missed that point in your vigor to be offended.
To paraphrase Churchill, those who do not recognize the patterns in history are doomed to repeat it - as we are apparently so ready and willing to do here in Chicago. I will say this much regarding your shock - what is more disrespectful to those who died fighting the Nazi regime: recognizing and calling attention to actions that are similar in their voracity to seize total power, or ignoring those actions, so their deaths are meaningless?
what is more disrespectful to those who died fighting the Nazi regime: recognizing and calling attention to actions that are similar in their voracity to seize total power, or ignoring those actions, so their deaths are meaningless?
Thanks for proving our point - we haven't noticed any trains lined up shipping Jews, Gypsies, Poles, infirm or collaborators off to the gas camps. The nazi atrocities should not be belittled by comparing their crimes to those perpetrated by Shortshanks and his merry band of thieves looting a city.
Again, please find another comparison. We don't object to your point, just the imagery you're trying to use.
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