Thursday, August 12, 2010

Someone Explain Please

This is ridiculous if true:
  • great pinch by the 014 burglary team, who grab 2 subjects for breaking into a yuppie house in bucktown. offenders waited until the maale resident left the house, then put on rubber gloves and kick in the door, enter the house, only to find the wife and daughter watching tv. the terrified wife calls 911, and the offenders flee. the a/o's gave chase on the tracks on bloomingdale and catch the offenders.

    here's the kicker- the 3rd watch lt refuses to approve the arrest reports because the charge was attempt burglary. she YELLED AND SCREAMED her head off like she always does, and said there's no way we're going to sandbag these 2 guys with attempt burglary charges because there's no act of furtherance on the part of the offenders. good victims, shithead offenders, and a terrible lt- the only thing to come out of it was criminal trespass. i guess putting on rubber gloves, kicking in a door, and actually entering the residence wasn't enough. it's no wonder why burglaries are thru the roof in that neighborhood.

    to be fair, i shouldn't have made a big point of the fact that Lt. H yelled and screamed her head off and berated the a/o's and inv. dicks. that's her normal tone for regular conversation. i'd hate to see her pissed. people skills and ability to lead are definitely not her strong suit.
"No act of furtherance"? And she's running a watch? Anyone care to confirm this insanity?

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104 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a joke of a "boss." It's "bosses" like this that are turning this department into a joke.

8/12/2010 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Weird. Did they clone the 1st watch Lt. from 018?

8/12/2010 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if it's true, that's a shame!!!

8/12/2010 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That would work if no one were home and it wasn't a residence but when you have 2 people in the house and the offenders have gloves on and such I think the "intent" to commit a theft or other felony is met. But I only make D2A pay. Put it on the ASA and see what they approve.

These cases are always funny. You could shoot and kill the shitheads coming through the door no questions asked, you were in fear of your life. But can't even get a felony charge approved if you don't kill them!? What a system.

8/12/2010 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you have to know how to deal with her. yes she is crazy, has her own opinions, doesnt know the law but that is a quarter of the Lt. and above on this job. i dont know the incident in question but maybe the paper writing is to blame? it is 014 remind you.

did the offenders maybe move some items closer to the door to grab on the way out?

burglary tools found any where?

offenders make any statements?
more details are needed. post the RD#

8/12/2010 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the dics were worth a shit they would've got an override. Must be more to story.

8/12/2010 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Surprised, I am not.

8/12/2010 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't believe this. No lt could be that dumb. You don't need an act of futherance. All you need to have upon entry is the intent to commit a felony or theft. Its not an Attempt Burglary. Its straight up a Res Burglary given the facts. Intent should have been easy enough to show. Rubber gloves and there was probably more given the prescence of witnesses. I dont know this lt but there must be more to the story. Seriously.

8/12/2010 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's hope the same occurs at her home. Wanna bet they get charged properly ??

She's just being a good flunkie to keep crime stats down. She should get a job with the Chgo Suntimes and become another "Tool" for the mayor, etal......

"What Crime" ???? " Dey're just not looking at dese little disturbances in the proper perspective"

" Silly, Silly, Silly " !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

" Just ask my guy Masters, Masters, Master"s"

richard m. daley

Supreme Monarch & Ruler for Life in Shitcago.

8/12/2010 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just another incompetent in over her head moron white shirt. Doesn't know her ass from a hole in the ground. Sadly this scenario is played out citywide on a daily basis,that's the real tragedy.

8/12/2010 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The female homeowner didn't have a gun???

But then again the story said "Bucktown Yuppie" so I guess that answers my question.

8/12/2010 01:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually they should've been charged with home invasion not attempt burglary.

8/12/2010 01:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds dead on balls for the Chicago police watch commanders. The arrest was probably going to run into overtime and the career house mous was scared that they would have to justify the Overtime to some higher ranking house mouse. Tell a WC you want to try for agg batt to po when some shithead pushes you and watch the shit storm that follows. We lost this town about three years ago.

8/12/2010 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That woman is an absolute menace

8/12/2010 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was there. Read the reports. The door was unlocked and they fled immediately after opening it. Nothing was kicked in and nobody was wearing gloves. Also, the offenders were 13 with no record.

8/12/2010 02:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Burglary is entering into a building with the intent to commit therein a theft or felony. Did the two shitheads confess they were going in to steal something or commit some other felony? Before encountering the residents, did they stuff something in their pockets? I think your Lt. understands the law, and while it may seem preposterous, she made the right call.

8/12/2010 02:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT- why are some people getting the day off on 14Aug but others can't. What is the criteria?

8/12/2010 03:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

like they'd get convicted of burglary anyway...

8/12/2010 03:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Man, I feel sorry for you guys.

8/12/2010 03:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I confirm it, she is insane.

8/12/2010 03:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

safe play

8/12/2010 04:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean the State's Attorney approved the charges and he wouldn't approve the arrest report? What did the dicks do then?

8/12/2010 05:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LT H is a crazy !@#$% who has jumped from dist. to dist. everywhere she has gone she has made nothing but enemies, she is a wanna be fucking lawyer, as a matter of fact she has flunked the bar exam several times, she tells her war stories from her time in 023. Advice to anyone in 014th call the street deputy and just go over her head. Lt H is only good for one thing SMOKING A PACK OF SQUARES. She's a virus that has infected every dist and watch she has supervised with low morale. Thank god she no longer is in 013 023 or 025.

p.s Lt hope you read the blog we said once and will say it again FUCK OFF STUPID NO ONE TAKES YOU SERIOUS.

8/12/2010 05:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I tell ya what, I worked there a few times and thats a common act by that LT. she is wayyyyyy over her head. I walked past the office once and she was YELLING at a P.O and Sgt. If that was me that person would have a problem. remember people, yes she is a supv but that doesnt mean she can treat you that way. if she can't have a normal conversation and prove her point I would excuse myself. as for this case if there was det assigned thats their fault for letting her determine the charge. hey Lt read the laws in ILLINOIS, with the INTENT to commit. I have to say with good victims most ASA would approve charges. Someone needs to do something about her cause she is going to run into the wrong person on the wrong day. day. waiting to hear about it on the blog.

8/12/2010 05:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Act of furtherance LOL.. Oh yeah that is Lt. H at her best. Advice don't give this chick attention she loves to hear herself talk. Lt H is what I call a bootleg boss all talk and pure stupid. I remeber this chick as a P.O. H COULDN'T CATCH A FART ON A DIAPER and now all of sudden she's a Anita Alvarez with a white shirt. God this dept. gets funnier by the day.

8/12/2010 05:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Huh? If the ASA approved attempt burglary, where does the lieutenant come into play? Sounds like someone has their facts skewed.

8/12/2010 05:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm going to pull the reports when I get to work. There has to be a lot more to this story.

8/12/2010 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did they get an event number?

8/12/2010 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like they caught pre-burglars and couldn't make the extra step.

8/12/2010 06:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If the dics were worth a shit they would've got an override. Must be more to story.

8/12/2010 12:22:00 AM


dont blame the dets ....... you can t make chicken soup out of chicken shit

8/12/2010 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i don't know much about the incident, but i know they were juvies (closer to 16 i think) and they did have on latex gloves.

the Lt is absolutely out her mind. she has serious control issues (among a bunch of other issues). i've heard her screaming at officers on several occasions. it's completely unprofessional. i avoid making arrests on nights she's working for the simple fact that i am not walking into her office for anything.

8/12/2010 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT- why are some people getting the day off on 14Aug but others can't. What is the criteria?

Simple......you either have to be a house mouse that hasn't been on the streets for years or have your nose far up the DC's ass.

But as far as I understand, the only people allowed off that day are the ones on furlo or RDO. And as far as the furlo reason is given, it can't be an extension.....it must be within the furlo segment.

8/12/2010 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are doing way over the 2% you are being paid for.

The watch commander is correct on this one--why are you arresting anyone?

8/12/2010 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets see... you catch these guys and are going to charge them with Attempt Burglary(probably Home Invasion?). Anyway, you call Dicks and they are on board. They do investigation and contact States Attorney. ASA reviews case and approves charges? If so, NOW you bring your arrest report to the Watch Commander for final approval. This is the order in which it should happen. Did these officers ask her first if they could pursue the Att. Burg.? If so shame on them. Now, if she refused to approve the arrest after an ASA approved charges that would be a story worth telling!
CLARIFICATION please, inquiring minds would like to know!!!

8/12/2010 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As crazy as she might be, and lord knows she doesn't have the best of people skills, she knew the law on this one. This was a bad case, sorry guys. She made the right call here. She didn't need to go to law school for this one. And do you really think the dicks would have seen it differently? It is Area 5 after all.

8/12/2010 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there some reason that the name of the LT is not revealed?

Come on guy's..... just put it out there.

Reading things like "Lt H said to Sgt. B, that Commander T.M. is a jag" does not do anyone any good. Someone might be misidentified and deemed a jag-off when it does not apply.

that's all I have to say about that!

8/12/2010 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, the Lt. may be right. It sounds more like a "home invasion" to me. If they didn't steal anything, how do you know that their intent was to commit a burglary or theft therein. The offenders apparently didn't damage any property or sexually assault anyone so you don't have a sex crime. . . what they do you have? And doesn't home invasion required an intent to commit a theft or felony therein? All this being the case, you can't prove what the intent was upon entering the premises - you can only assume that it was to commit a theft. Assumed intent will not be sufficient for a conviction without the act in furtherance. OTOH, as a Lt/WC, I would probably have approved the charges and left the question of conviction to the SAO and let these morons sit in jail for awhile. Maybe that's the part the your Lt. doesn't understand but then she's a lawyer isn't she?

8/12/2010 08:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The female homeowner didn't have a gun???

But then again the story said "Bucktown Yuppie" so I guess that answers my question.
-----------------------------------Yea she was sitting in her living room watching TV with her child and had a 45 in her waistband waiting for a home invader you dipshit.

8/12/2010 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yea the Lt. H smokes her squares, wears her flannel shirts over her uniform, and will recite the law for you...I went to Law School...I am the Acting W/C. Sweet Pea that is why you are a Lt. on the Watch and not in Legal Affairs or else where!

8/12/2010 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This sounds like the 1st watch Lt from 016. He also has no clue about charging offenders.

8/12/2010 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OT- why are some people getting the day off on 14Aug but others can't. What is the criteria?

8/12/2010 03:16:00 AM

Either you have clout or are a female with children.

8/12/2010 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been waiting for this headline for about 10 months. We did a search warrant, and had a female, LT. H. was all stressed out about her going to 011 not 25 cause the warrant took place in area 4. Good ole LT. mother*uck me up and down, and said "get the *uck, out of my office". at that time the capt. on 3rd watch rolled her eyes 4 days later after she apologized. Thanks to "clout" she is where she is at. Lt. H. has been dupmed out of every district she has work.

quick question, why wasn't home invasion the primary classification?
if nothing was taken it is not a burglary?????? were the detectives wrong?

lt h = another example from someone who was never the working police.. but hold on, not one lt or watch commander was the working police in 014

8/12/2010 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She visited 015 the other day and she did nothing but drive us ape shit. This does not surprise me... What a bitch.

8/12/2010 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gotta love merit bosses!!!! What a bunch of morons!!!!!

8/12/2010 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank god she no longer is in 013 023 or 025.

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Don't forget her other stops in 003, 009, 012, 015 and 018.

8/12/2010 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous PillowTalk™ with Leo and Mary said...

"Weird. Did they clone the 1st watch Lt. from 018?"

Don't think so, unless she has a mullet too.

8/12/2010 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Act of furtherance LOL.. Oh yeah that is Lt. H at her best. Advice don't give this chick attention she loves to hear herself talk. Lt H is what I call a bootleg boss all talk and pure stupid. I remeber this chick as a P.O. H COULDN'T CATCH A FART ON A DIAPER and now all of sudden she's a Anita Alvarez with a white shirt. God this dept. gets funnier by the day.

8/12/2010 05:45:00 AM

Dear Person Who Posted the Above Comment: Can you really catch a fart on a diaper? I can't. I don't think it's possible. But I will pay you twenty bucks if you can catch a fart in a jar and paint it purple.

8/12/2010 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If the dics were worth a shit they would've got an override. Must be more to story.

8/12/2010 12:22:00 AM

Ummmm, I think that is the province of the Watch Commander, not the Dicks.

8/12/2010 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did she refuse to approve the charges or perhaps did she just reject the report for revisions because it was badly written and failed to contain the elements of the crime? Her problem is she treats people so badly that by the time you are done with a conversation ( that is if she will shut up long enough for you to speak)all you want to do is walk away and never return.

8/12/2010 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seen her act for many years from P.O. in 023 up and through Lt. Loves to berate people and stir up a shitstorm and she is vindictive as hell and proud of it.

8/12/2010 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retired now but from my time breaking into a house when the occupants are home used to be a home invasion. In fact the call would come out as such. Wtf happened to this city? Daley happened!!!!

8/12/2010 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's truly sad is that this incompetent, rude unkempt woman is going to be the watch commander once the captain retires this year.

8/12/2010 11:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where were the charges for home invasion?

Fuck these jagoffs! A real Police boss would approve more charges and NOT less!

This 014 District, 3rd Watch Commander should put her papers in and resign!

The 3rd Watch Commander is obviously over qualified for her position!

8/12/2010 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually they should've been charged with home invasion not attempt burglary.

8/12/2010 01:40:00 AM

Need more for Home Invasion. It has to be more than just the residence being occupied. An act of force or violence is required I believe. Without the 720 in froont of me the exact wording eludes.

8/12/2010 11:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a fucking joke, the homeowner should immediately go to whatever media outlets will listen. In Illinois Lethal force is justified being used against someone breaking into your humble abode in a riotous or tumultuous fashion with no duty to retreat on the residents. But this LT. thinks this doesn't warrant criminal charges?????

8/12/2010 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Dave in Albany Park said...

"Tell a WC you want to try for agg batt to po when some shithead pushes you"

I can't believe people do this.

If the smallest cop in Mayberry were smacking me around for an illegal left turn I'd not raise a hand against him or her. Duck and cover would be about it. Try for redress later, maybe, but NEVER would I resist. A combination of common sense and having been raised by a law-and-order-type father who was very pro-police.

You poor guys really do have a lot of morons to deal with out there....

SCC is always an interesting read.

8/12/2010 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She is a goof. That is why she was launched from 013

8/12/2010 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If the dics were worth a shit they would've got an override."

Det cannot ask for an "override." Only the WC can.

8/12/2010 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like a certain Captain on 1st watch ,003rd District.

8/12/2010 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

attempt burglary? all you need for burglary is intent, there almost is no attempt burglary it's either burglary or trespass. Sorry guys got to go with the lt on this one. Dic's should have just tried for burglary.

8/12/2010 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah we just love it when she comes to 015 as a visitor. she is respected by nobody. Those bars don't make you a leader nor demand respect. I would follow half the bosses to a drive thru let alone anything police related.

8/12/2010 01:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i had flashbacks to time spent in 013 when i read that. i felt a cold shiver down my spine!! i could, and would testify at a hearing to have that incompetent lunatic committed. how she still is allowed to carry a firearm is still a mystery that haunts me and all others who have had to stand in front of her desk try and convince her that, yes, the charge that i used in my arrest report DOES exist and all she has to do is approve it, i will take care of the testifying part in court. she once threw a ILCS book at me in her office and another time told me i didnt have PC for my arrest so i told her i would let the offender go then. she about shit. it got to be a game to see how many times she would kick back an arrest report and it got so bad the tac lt in 013 wouldnt let his guys arrest anybody when she was WC!! thanks for brinnging back memories i thought i had suppressed dude!! uuugggghhh!!

8/12/2010 01:33:00 PM  
Anonymous The Watcher said...

Anonymous said...



..as a matter of fact she has flunked the bar exam several times..

8/12/2010 05:33:00 AM

Sounds like a likely candidate for mayor. Didn't the present midget in charge flunk the bar?

8/12/2010 02:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually they should've been charged with home invasion not attempt burglary.


You would have to have knowledge that someone is home. (Proof)

8/12/2010 02:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Burglary is entering into a building with the intent to commit therein a theft or felony. Did the two shitheads confess they were going in to steal something or commit some other felony? Before encountering the residents, did they stuff something in their pockets? I think your Lt. understands the law, and while it may seem preposterous, she made the right call.


Really miss H! think again gloves kicked in the door????

8/12/2010 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is this the same lt. H that used to be in the 002 district on first watch?

8/12/2010 03:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

burglary??? when the resident is HOME it should be HOME INVASION!!!!

WAKE THE FUCK UP!

8/12/2010 03:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT- why are some people getting the day off on 14Aug but others can't. What is the criteria?

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Criteria: Must be a member of the policy group.

8/12/2010 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Out here in the Burbs we would have charged Home Invasion and it would have stuck with the Will Co S.A. I'm glad I don't work on a Cook Co. Burb anymore.

8/12/2010 04:10:00 PM  
Blogger It's McTwitter! said...

If the Lt. H has an alias known as "Dee-Dee", you're dealing with a bi-polar type 1 personality. I've heard enough stories from coppers that dealt with her and I was in the station when she erupted on a young female rookie copper; she's seriously bi-polar and persoanl concerns should talk to her.

8/12/2010 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

she is a wanna be fucking lawyer, as a matter of fact she has flunked the bar exam several times,

____________________________________

Be careful ! daley couldn't pass the Bar exam either, he became mayor !!

Stupidity can't be fixed but it can be covered up, to a certain point.

She sounds like a sgt we had in 012 before she got promoted. Nothing but "war stories" from "when I was in 014" bla bla bla blab bla.... She was always on a caffeine/sugar buzz from Mountain Dew (the soft drink).

8/12/2010 04:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ask for an override....if you re absolutely 100% certain and have articlulated those facts on case/arrest report.no more gray area boys and girls. i used to have guys/victims hit over the head with booze bottles. bleeding like pigs and stitched up too. never got an agg. batt charge. dicks would say'' is he gonna live? you ve got nothing kid''.

8/12/2010 04:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
If the dics were worth a shit they would've got an override. Must be more to story.

8/12/2010 12:22:00 AM

Ummmm, I think that is the province of the Watch Commander, not the Dicks.

oVER RIDES ARE TO OVER RIDE A STATES ATT. NOT A WATCH COMMANDER

8/12/2010 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"not one lt or watch commander was the working police in 014" In 14? Nope not here, but I'll take Lt. M or Capt. B any day.

8/12/2010 05:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Dear Person Who Posted the Above Comment: Can you really catch a fart on a diaper? I can't. I don't think it's possible. But I will pay you twenty bucks if you can catch a fart in a jar and paint it purple.

8/12/2010 10:14:00 AM"



make it $20 plus you drink what's in the jar and you're on.

8/12/2010 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In Illinois Lethal force is justified being used against someone breaking into your humble abode in a riotous or tumultuous fashion with no duty to retreat on the residents."

--8/12/2010 12:02:00 PM

F--king-A.

Wanna live? Time to fish or cut bait. Problem about having a gun? Go down in the basement and make yourself a great big horrible stout SPEAR from the garden tool handles and metal junk down there. Next time some rubber-glove crew bust down yo' do', protect your family -- charge screaming, without a moment's hesitation, and with a two-handed lunge with your whole weight behind it, pin the son-of-a-bitch firmly to the drywall.

Now grab another spear, and take up the chase on No. 2, shrieking about how the undertaker is going to have to wind his guts back into him from here all the way down to the corner.

If he's running all funny with his legs kind of apart because he's just s__t himself so much the better.

Someone else can be busy calling 911, txt msging, etc. -- the kids, who've fled into their "safe room" and double-locked the door and dropped the $2.49 2-by-4 across it, like they've been taught.

The cavemen did pretty well for themselves and so can we. "Improvise. Adapt. Overcome."

8/12/2010 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"She sounds like a sgt we had in 012 before she got promoted. Nothing but 'war stories' from 'when I was in 014' bla bla bla blab bla.... She was always on a caffeine/sugar buzz from Mountain Dew (the soft drink)."

--8/12/2010 04:48:00 PM

Look out. Target is carying "Mountain Dew Retro" (Limited Edition,) made with real sugar.

God, used to drink that after school while watching Leave It To Beaver. Then I got a bottle with dirt floating around on the bottom, and never touched it again. Funny how easily "brand loyalty" can go when you're queasy....

8/12/2010 07:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Last I heard, putting on gloves and kicking in a door occupied by somebody counts as a home invasion.

They can always argue that wasn't their intent in court.

8/12/2010 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
i don't know much about the incident, but i know they were juvies (closer to 16 i think) and they did have on latex gloves.

the Lt is absolutely out her mind. she has serious control issues (among a bunch of other issues). i've heard her screaming at officers on several occasions. it's completely unprofessional. i avoid making arrests on nights she's working for the simple fact that i am not walking into her office for anything.

8/12/2010 07:00:00 AM

If they were juvies, then either way it was a station ajustment. Why were dicks involved? Who were the dicks she went off on?

8/12/2010 08:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT- why are some people getting the day off on 14Aug but others can't. What is the criteria?

8/12/2010 03:16:00 AM

Either you have clout or are a female with children.

8/12/2010 08:48:00 AM

"A female with children"- u r an idiot - I'm a FEMALE with children and my RDO was cancelled. U r one of those males who can't stand the fact that women are on the job. Grow some balls u Fu#%!

8/12/2010 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"not one lt or watch commander was the working police in 014" In 14? Nope not here, but I'll take Lt. M or Capt. B any day.

8/12/2010 05:39:00 PM
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Yeah, but Buslik's been exiled to midnights.

8/12/2010 09:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8/12/2010 08:10:00 AM
the order for which you described the process of arrest, detectives investigation ad so on is wrong...you obviously don't make felony arrests outside of PCS.

8/12/2010 09:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its home invasion plain and simple.

8/12/2010 10:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She sounds a lot like a F/4 Lt in 010 on 2nd Watch.

8/12/2010 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what is flawed in our promotion testing process....I'm sure she scored real high on the LT test, and probably the SGT test too. Unfortunately, the three components to a good supervisor that they don't test for are decision making skills, leadership and interpersonal (people) skills. You could be the smartest person on the job, pass all the tests and still not be a good Sgt LT Etc because you don't possess those three skills/traits. They are critical to the morale and direction of this department. And until they start recognizing those skill sets as critical components to effective supervision, then there will continue to be nothing but problems.

8/12/2010 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the offenders were charged with attempt, then the charges must have been approved by an ASA. If the W/C refused to sign the arrest slip then a release form should have been prepared and given to her. If she signed it let the offenders go, fuck it. Just make sure you keep copies.

As for the person who chided the detectives for not requesting an override, how can an override be requested when charges have already been approved.?

And if charges had been denied then it is the W/C's responsibility to request the override. Sound like a Catch 22.

8/12/2010 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For you guys wondering how some people got off the 14th. In our district we were allowed to use the provision of switching days off with another P.O. About five people got the day off that way.

8/13/2010 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...i shouldn't have made a big point of the fact that Lt. H yelled and screamed her head off and berated the a/o's and inv. dicks. that's her normal tone for regular conversation. i'd hate to see her pissed. people skills and ability to lead are definitely not her strong suit."

You're certainly being diplomatic. Sounds like a flat-out mental. Nobody sane yells and screams constantly in the course of the normal daily performance of their duties. Put her in back counting envelopes and pencils if you keep her at all -- there are plenty of polite people who can do that work too.

8/13/2010 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Why were dicks involved? Who were the dicks she went off on?

8/12/2010 08:32:00 PM"



PLEASE, I BEG YOU, DON'T MAKE IT SO FUCKING EASY.

8/13/2010 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesn't say the door was kicked in on the reports. Was it or wasn't it?

8/13/2010 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that ''team'' is like the three stooges on crack.

8/13/2010 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the report is badly written. 014 burglary team - you need to be taught how to write a report.

8/13/2010 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

OHHHHH...

THAT Lt. H.?

"The son her father never had?"

She was a miserable rotter as a P.O.

A miserable rotter as a Sgt.

A more miserable rotter as a Lt.

She's another (unfortunately so) CPD boss legacy & birthrighter.

She was born and groomed to be your boss. It's her right and her legacy and you are wrong for failing to acknowledge this.

Just wait, she'll show you everything there is to know about bossin'.

Sarcasm: ON/(OFF)

Jayzus! Is this woman still spreading her peculiar brand of good will everywhere she goes?

She should have been terminated YEARS AGO for her nonsense and shame on any District Commander for allowing her to continue acting a fool.

Shame on coppers for not dropping paper on her. Policemen have a right and expectation to work without being motherfucked & assholed by a supervisor.

But of course if you even give someone like her even the hint of a raised eye brow they'll sprain an ass muscle running to spar you for "insubordination."

She would be chronically unemployable if she were pulling this nonsense in the private sector as they would be tired of paying out for hostile workplace beefs.

Appalling how adults with firearms mistreat other adults with firearms under the guise of supervision. We never understood the attraction, allure and ego boost one could derive from that.

...just sayin'

8/13/2010 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She has always been an asshole, and has no idea what she's doing or talking about; was absolutely awful as a Sgt. in 012, over 15 people left the watch she was on to get away from her. She was finally launched to 025 to get rid of her and she fucked everything up over there as well, so this is no surprise. Has ZERO people skills..

8/13/2010 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whoever said its a home invasion is wrong. Id say definitely residential burglary off of the facts here.

The problem, however, may also be the shitty paper and half ass preliminary investigations being performed out there as well as an inability to communiate.

If we werent so quick to write some half assed report, look for hold papers and dump the guy in the lockup on some charges that arent asa approved things may go better.

I think everyone here would be able to follow up and get that charge approved given some time and effort. I mean gather witnesses, get an et, get the dics involved and call the state. What does the lt have to do with it till its done?

8/13/2010 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

U need a weapon and knowledge of the premise being occupied for Home Invasion, and yes there is a charge for Att. Burglary, if they were juvies there should be no need for dets. other than SVU BUT

If the charge wasn't there then she did her job in NOT approving charges without corrections from the arresting officers. For those ssaying approve it anyway and let the States Atorney deal with it in court, WRONG, the state will just nolle pros the case and then guess what? everyone involved, including the W/C will be getting sued for false arrest, civil rights violations etc. so even though she is an absolute goof( I know her, she is) she is probably right on this one( God I hated to just say that!!)

8/13/2010 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets see... you catch these guys and are going to charge them with Attempt Burglary(probably Home Invasion?). Anyway, you call Dicks and they are on board. They do investigation and contact States Attorney. ASA reviews case and approves charges? If so, NOW you bring your arrest report to the Watch Commander for final approval. This is the order in which it should happen. Did these officers ask her first if they could pursue the Att. Burg.? If so shame on them. Now, if she refused to approve the arrest after an ASA approved charges that would be a story worth telling!
CLARIFICATION please, inquiring minds would like to know!!!

8/12/2010 08:10:00 AM



AMEN! this is my point exactly. Stop trying to dump your arrest off on other people and this wont happen. Do an investigation and call the dics/ASA. Have the victims/witnesses all in one place so the detective doesnt have to track them all down. get it felony approved and tell the WC, "hey, guess what? I have this sweet burglary arrest thats been approved and is awaiting your review."

8/13/2010 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually they should've been charged with home invasion not attempt burglary.

8/12/2010 01:40:00 AM

Need more for Home Invasion. It has to be more than just the residence being occupied. An act of force or violence is required I believe. Without the 720 in froont of me the exact wording eludes.

8/12/2010 11:20:00 AM

Actually, offenders would have to remain once they discovered people were home for Home Invasion.

8/13/2010 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A female with children"- u r an idiot - I'm a FEMALE with children and my RDO was cancelled. U r one of those males who can't stand the fact that women are on the job. Grow some balls u Fu#%!

8/12/2010 08:41:00 PM
Your RDO was cancelled??? Why is my RDO not cancelled any anybody else in my district? Maybe some of us would like the extra cash!!!!

8/13/2010 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was an old dick who yelled back at the 018 1st watch screamer and she ran away.

8/13/2010 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It doesn't say the door was kicked in on the reports. Was it or wasn't it?

8/13/2010 12:19:00 AM

Anonymous said...
the report is badly written. 014 burglary team - you need to be taught how to write a report.

8/13/2010 06:44:00 AM

Also, no mention of an ET being ordered so I'd say the door wasn't kicked it. Also, nothing about the offenders wearing gloves. What gives?

8/13/2010 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that Lt H is a lunatic....she called me from check off in 012 while I was at the hospital with a victim taking a report and screamed at me. I hung up, and she called me back to scream at me more...then I refused to put her on the report as being on scene, and she yelled at me more. Psycho!!!!!!

8/13/2010 06:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I commented previously on this thread because like many others I think this Lt. is a raving lunatic. However after thinking about it she really doesn't deserve a whole thread dedicated to badmouthing her. There are many other bosses male and female who are just as goofy in their own way, and there are always three sides to every story. Yours, theirs and the truth.

8/13/2010 10:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She borrowed $5 dollars from me while we were in the academy and didn't pay me back!!!

8/14/2010 12:21:00 AM  

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