Everything Old is New Again - Again
Another rumor:
- WTF I just heard that our marine unit is getting sent to mobile strike force or the TRU unit for the 12th 13th 1st and 2nd periods. What are these moronic bosses thinking? There have been several security threats all over the world and in different U.S. cities that have been thwarted so why would you deplete a year round unit of personnel that plays a major role on commercial waterways in one of the biggest cities in the U.S. And in case most of you do not know the marine unit responds to all jobs year round and the U.S. Coast Guard vacates the Downtown Chicago area until something big happens or until boating season reopens in May. Nice decision DUMB ASS COMMAND STAFF and you know who you are!!!!
We seem to recall the Marine Unit was previously sent to the old Detail Unit back in the day. They worked the Bulls, Blackhawks, Bears and other winter details for years when the lake and locks were frozen over. They may have kept a skeleton crew around to warm up the boat engines and such, but unless the city suddenly inherited an icebreaker, we could see utilizing the manpower in other ways.
Marine guys and gals? Weigh in here - good idea or bad? We know next to nothing about your duties and responsibilities.
Marine guys and gals? Weigh in here - good idea or bad? We know next to nothing about your duties and responsibilities.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
124 Comments:
MAKE SURE YOU GUYS AND GIRLS GET EVENT NUMBERS.......
Sounds like someone from a phone call unit that's afraid to hit the streets. Suck it up and drive on, you'll be back to your phone call spot in no time. We all know you got to the "elite" Marine unit based on your unique set of skills fu#%ing crybaby!
OBVIOUSLY, you don't need the whole crew out there hanging out at the boathouse. Truth be told, many of the members of the Marine unit can't even perform the standards in place for acceptance into the unit...especially the time they are required to tread water. And if you think large numbers of the patrolmen can't perform to the standard, don't even THINK about checking the fitness of the Sgts. assigned there...May as well utilize many of their personnel into the antiterrorism 'mix' as best the Dept. can.
yes, the two bigger boats got hull breakers in the early 2000s.
Stop whining and do your job fishboy,you ain't no better than the district beat officers.
Yea you are right on bout dat, its just like Cal Ripken, Steve Wilkos and Brian Urlacher is the same damn guy. Hows he do that?
We have no Tactical Waterbourne capabilities as it is. The Marine Unit was our only defense on the waterfront (26 miles worth). And they are being sent elsewhere. Good idea. Chicago is also an International seaport with zero customs presence.
Last year the FBI conducted waterbourne tactics for ship boarding, ship assaults and disabling vessels with a select group of CPD Officers. Nothing since has been carried out or followed up upon. Why?
Is the threat gone? Do we have a secret society of SEALS protecting our shores, our waterways, our ports? Does the FBI have a fulltime team out there patrolling? Is the Marine Unit trained to encounter force on force waterbourne threats beyond handguns?
You get three guesses and the first two don't count. The answer is HELL NO!!! We are fucked when Mumbai style assault teams come here to wreek havoc. After the smoke clears and the body count is sufficient, the city will impliment some crack pot program to combat that which has already occurred.
The United States of Amnesia. The rest of the world prepares for plausible threats, we prepare for elections of crooked politicians to save us from ourselves. Fucking pathetic!
Stretch it out Chicago--and the rest of America for that matter--we're about to kiss our own asses good-bye.
Yeah because they will attack by sea!!! Gfys mush!!! Hahahhaha!
FROM A PREVIOUS POST:
I'm glad the 025 Dist Robbery Team Sgt (RR) didn't get to parachute all over the paper like him and his blonde wonder boy/man try to do on almost everything.
He pulled up on scene and tried his best to be part of what occurred prior to his arrival.
It was just pathetic to see that so early in the morning from a grown man.
10/06/2010 09:12:00 PM
Hey, leave the sarge alone, its not everyone who can stick their nose so far up a boss' behind.
And anyway, that team of softballs has a blonde wonderMAN & a blonde wonderBOY. One is not any better than the other when it comes to stupid schemes to generate activity for their fearless leaders. Thankfully those two hick yokels bid out. We did nothing but race to save them when they screamed for help like pre-schoolers.
What a bunch of crybabies. I remember back in the SOS days they sent them to work the streets and they whined and cried about how they should be sitting in the office doing nothing instead of being out on the street doing police work.
Icebreaker?
Except for the marinas Lake Michigan generally doesn't freeze over here in da great city of Chicago.
Generally, some winters you will see ice out for a few blocks off the beaches.
Back when I came on this job during the last ice age there was no Lake Michigan and we were always cold. Of course I started out as a Park District cop and then came over during the CPD takeover in 9000 BC.
SUNK....
If I was in charge, I would make sure that down time in winter months is filled with training! If the marine unit is run like everything else in this department I am sure those guys could use some much need training exercises, classroom instruction, etc, etc.. Lets remember this isn't a solution to the manpower shortage, its just more smoke an mirrors. If putting them in cars to pad the numbers is a must, they should still be patrolling the lakefront with equipment needed to make shoreline water rescues.
SCC I know what the marine unit does in the winter months NOTHING. So let them go where needed and if they don't like it they can always bid out and I have a feeling the dep't would have no problem finding others to go to the unit.
The lake is a Big threat in the Winter time too.More like a natural barrier. Let the CLOUTED work the streets. LoL Send in the Horse guys too. They dont even know how to ride like NYPD. 055 Another Clouted useless unit.
O.T.
Several LAZ parking machines stolen/broken into/dumped on the near west side recently.
That's real sad!
Evidently a bitter Marine Unit guy that may have to do police work for a few periods. Put your boat shoes up and deal with it.
TRU means
They're Really Useless
MSF means
Mighty Soft and Fluffy
The IDIOTS got rid of some good ARSON Detectives and left most of the DEAD weight behind.
Boo fucking hoo. A phone call unit has to be the police for a few months while the lake is frozen. I'm sure they'll make a huge impact on the numbers.
Watch what Salt Lake City is doing for terrist training. Puts CPD to shame.
For fucks sake, it's getting to be that any cop worth his/her salt is leaving and going to any dept willing to train and pay what is deserved. But mainly, to keep manpower staffed to survivable odds. I think that's most any dept in the US Mainland, Hawaii, or Alaska. Call us. We ARE available.
Not a rumor... another lamebrain idea by the fat Greek. Also officers who are currently working midnights and days by their earned bid are being FORCED to work afternoons. Thanks F.O.P. You guys suck too.
Let me get this straight. You are lucky enough to have the WHACK to get to the MARINE UNIT and you're BITCHING? Sorry if your CLOUT can't get you out of your winter detail. I would be happy to work the same start time two days in a row. That's my dream. Ride your boat in the summer, suffer through that terrible detail in the winter, and SHUT THE FUCK UP! I'm sure you will be promoted soon, you clout heavy bag of douche.
In the early 90's, a sergeant and about 4 officers came to work with us in public housing during those winter months. They never seemed to mind and they worked pretty hard while they were there. 765.
Terrible idea. Around 2000 the Marine Unit went to a year around unit. The entire unit was structured around this, training schedules etc.
Now the worst boss ever to befall the Marine Unit, Steve Georgas, (Deputy Chief Special Functions, Radke's old job) has decreed that the work of the past 10 years will go right out the window so that the Marine Unit will add some extra bodies to some other unit somewhere.
And all those rescues that were made in winter? Call the Fire Department. Evidence searches? Call the Fire Department and subpoena a fireman for trial.
And the equipment? Boats, scuba gear, compressors, electronics etc? And the year around training that the Marine Unit did?
Ask Steve Georgas.
This will last until another attack and then it will be rush rush, get them back, and excuses will be made for public consumption about the state of readiness.
And all that Federal Homeland Security money spent to make and keep the Marine Unit a full time year around unit? Like all the other federal money, spent on something else.
This will push some old timers off the fence and into retirement. They will go and take their many years of knowledge and experience with them.
New people can simply ask Steve Georgas with questions about the lakefront, operations etc. He knows everything anyway. Just ask him.
THIS IS A WARNING : A VERY VERY BAD IDEA.
forensic audit
BID OUT! You don't wanna get detail for four periods to another SPECIAL unit? BID OUT! There are atleast 15 Districts would welcome you with open arms because we, in PATROL, are in dying needs of manpower. You mention about your role in MARINE UNIT and how important your jobs are. What the fuck do you think the PATROL unit does? Do you think we just get out of roll call, get our coffee, and read newspaper or magazines all freaking day/night? Tell me, how many of you guys in MARINE UNIT have been shot at for the last 6 months? Please, STFU if you wanna stay in your cushy spot.
Bob Roman pitched the idea to J-Fled that the Marine Unit be disbanded! We don't need boats he said.
"Thwarted"? Who talks like that? Certainly not someone looking for sympathy. Never been a big fan of the boys and girls of summer. They always had the "doing you a favor" attitude. A little time with the regular grunts might do them some good, sharpen their skills. It sounds like a good idea.
3 seperate agg batt/firearms last night in the deuce, 5 total shot. 1 other incident with shots fired and A1 gang team recovering a pistol with a head. Almost felt like old times in 002. The rest of the week/weekend should be fun times with the weather staying warm. Walk in to a backlog, leave in a backlog. No, we don't need more officers, we need more platoons in MSF! Ugh!
Does the marine unit write tickets on speeding boats?
Keep the Marine Unit Handy. Get rid of the Bike Unit. I've worked it before. Kind of like Tact teams. 4-5 people to one dope arrest. Waste of manpower during the cold months. For the summer each district could man their own beaches. Makes sense.
We'll see how long this lasts when someone goes through the ice in a harbor. When someone tries to escape the Police jumping into the river. When a tourist from out of town decides to end it near the Suicide...err Holiday Season. When your dog runs out onto the ice because your busy texting.
True, calls for service may slow down but with ice and cold the chances for death climb ten fold. Also the Marine Unit uses the winter season to brush up on training and education since they are not saving millions in boats and yachts from sinking/crashing onto the rocks.
Whoever the boss is that is making this decision... remember one thing, just like your pistol/revolver (REMEMBER IT'S IN YOUR DESK DRAWER), it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!
If this is some boss/former Marine Unit/TRU wonder volunteering those guys for this.... SHAME ON YOU!
OT:
Clemency Hearing
Ronnie "Mad Dog" Carrasquillo was sentenced to between 200 and 600 years in prison for killing Chicago Police Officer Terrence Loftus in 1976. Loftus was trying to break up a gang fight on the city's North Side when he was shot to death.
Carrasquillo has filed a petition for executive clemency. A public hearing will be held on Friday, October 8, 2010 at the State of Illinois building located at 100 W. Randolph, Chicago, IL. The hearing is scheduled for 9:00 am in Room 9-034.
Carrasquillo has had support from some noteworthy public officials in past attempts to gain parole, including U.S. Congressman Luis Gutierrez. The Lodge is encouraging all members, active or retired, to make every effort to attend this hearing. Your presence does make a difference.
October 8, 2010
State of Illinois building
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9:00 am in Room 9-034
Seems like a good idea on its face (more police in the field) but who's going to shoulder the blame if something big happens either on the lake or river and there is only a small skeleton crew left to respond? SG. I think not. Seems like a gigantic safety concern is not being addressed by FOP...
The Marine Unit responds to different types of jobs all year round and even though there may not be as many calls in the winter months they still get jobs and are always willing to respond without hesitation. I work in Area 2 and I remember one cold winter when they dove under the ice in the Beaubian Woods Lagoon looking for evidence in the homicide of a flight attendant ( Tracey Todd ) whose remains were found in the area. It was a bitter cold day and they had divers and people on shore working their butts off in the ice and frigid water that did everything they could possibly do to assist. When you have units that are really specialized such as this one , Canine , SWAT , and many others why not let them do the job they are paid and, trained to do ?
This city is so prepared.
On 9-11, they sent a patrol boat to protect all the city skyscrapers and hundreds of thousands of citizens with a couple of patrolmen armed with snub nosed revolvers. Those guys have been asking for better equipment and training for years and nothing is done.
Yeah because they will attack by sea!!! Gfys mush!!! Hahahhaha!
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Google "Mumbai" dumbfuck. See how they arrived to kill 200 people. God you're an asshole.
Are you kidding me?.....another unit that can be taken over by the fire dept....what a joke...THEY DONT DO SHIT!!....most of us working p.o.'s dont give a shit about these crybaby, clout heavy DO THING spots, when they are forced to do a little work...most of them are a bunch of wouses anyway...another huge joke is the CCG units...
there is already a bike team in 001...a bike team in 018...AND THEN THE C.C.G.BIKE TEAM THAT COVERS 001/018....WTF?...and lets not forget the CCG saturation team....WHAT A JOKE!....BREAK THEM ALL UP!
FROM A PREVIOUS POST:
I'm glad the 025 Dist Robbery Team Sgt (RR) didn't get to parachute all over the paper like him and his blonde wonder boy/man try to do on almost everything.
He pulled up on scene and tried his best to be part of what occurred prior to his arrival.
It was just pathetic to see that so early in the morning from a grown man.
10/06/2010 09:12:00 PM
Hey, leave the sarge alone, its not everyone who can stick their nose so far up a boss' behind.
And anyway, that team of softballs has a blonde wonderMAN & a blonde wonderBOY. One is not any better than the other when it comes to stupid schemes to generate activity for their fearless leaders. Thankfully those two hick yokels bid out. We did nothing but race to save them when they screamed for help like pre-schoolers.
10/07/2010 12:50:00 AM
Just curious...why so much hate for these individuals? By the way, why would you call someone out on the blog without leaving YOU name or initials. The individual who put the Sgt. on here is low. And you're supposed to be a brother in blue? Ha you're just like most 0f 025-thugish, backstabber, dirty on your own brothers and sisters in blue!!
http://www.fullertonsfuture.org/2010/stop-the-madness-now/
VERY ANTI PENSION
If I was in charge, I would make sure that down time in winter months is filled with training! If the marine unit is run like everything else in this department I am sure those guys could use some much need training exercises, classroom instruction, etc, etc..
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If you were in charge, you would promote every hack buddy you had on this job. You would give perks to your neighbors' kids. You'd do everything the alderman told you to. You'd take your family to the corner church on Sundays and tell everyone there to stop the no snitchin. You'd have a giant stat dept that did nothing except hide the fact that crime was growing out of control.
Hey! Aren't you already in charge?
This will push some old timers off the fence and into retirement. They will go and take their many years of knowledge and experience with them.
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Every time someone retires from any job their experience goes with them.
Are you suggesting that people work here forever so we are never without their almighty "experience?"
Here's a news flash. It takes no more than 5 years to learn everything there is to know about this job. Add 2 more if you make dick.
If you have past this threshold and haven't completely figured this out, then you are an idiot.
Must be a comment from someone from the Marine Unit. They REALLY do not want to go back to the streets. This unit does little or nothing in the dead winter months.Same goes for the mounted unit.
Anonymous said...
If I was in charge, I would make sure that down time in winter months is filled with training! If the marine unit is run like everything else in this department I am sure those guys could use some much need training exercises, classroom instruction, etc, etc.. Lets remember this isn't a solution to the manpower shortage, its just more smoke an mirrors. If putting them in cars to pad the numbers is a must, they should still be patrolling the lakefront with equipment needed to make shoreline water rescues.
10/07/2010 01:55:00 AM
Down time in winter IS filled with training. And they do patrol the lakefront etc. How many people not in the unit really know what the Marine Unit does?
Yes, fresh water does freeze in winter, harbors freeze, near shore, locks, fisherman fall through the ice, kids venture out.
What's the difference. Tons of money has been spent in the last 10 years on cross training, heavy weapons, all weather capability, might as well have them out there playing charades and getting event numbers with the rest.
Anonymous said...
Does the marine unit write tickets on speeding boats?
10/07/2010 07:47:00 AM
Yes.
It is a more severe ticket if the Coast Guard writes a speeding ticket to a boat for speeding in a no wake zone like inside Chicago Harbor. A couple of thousand dollar federal fine and you argue it in front of a federal magistrate at the federal building. CPD hands them an ANOV.
Anonymous said...
BID OUT! You don't wanna get detail for four periods to another SPECIAL unit? BID OUT! There are atleast 15 Districts would welcome you with open arms because we, in PATROL, are in dying needs of manpower. You mention about your role in MARINE UNIT and how important your jobs are. What the fuck do you think the PATROL unit does? Do you think we just get out of roll call, get our coffee, and read newspaper or magazines all freaking day/night? Tell me, how many of you guys in MARINE UNIT have been shot at for the last 6 months? Please, STFU if you wanna stay in your cushy spot.
10/07/2010 07:07:00 AM
I was in the Marine Unit for a time. I didn't think it was so cushy when out there on the lake in 6-8 foot waves. Much different than the ocean. Try to get back in the boat when it is going up and down 6-8 feet at a time and it is freezing cold and twin 36" props are nearby.
I am glad to be back in my cushy job in a district driving around a new Tahoe beat car reading newspapers and drinking coffee.
Who gives a fuck? Send me out to street. I will be glad to help out my peers out there who think I'm a crybaby. I worked the street long before most of the crybaby commentators came on this job. As for the fat little Greek kid, this is your best shot at fucking with us? Ha ha and opah! See y'all out there, be safe, and Merry Christmas .
I have to say that I'm sick of all the bickering nowadays between coppers on this job.
Whoever thinks that a well trained Law Enforcement Marine Unit in a city the size of Chicago is a waste, IS A FUCKIN IDIOT! In case you rookie geniuses didn't realize or know how to read a fkn map, Chicago has almost 30 miles of shoreline connected to INTERNATIONAL waterways. Can you say USS Cole or the Mumbai attacks? You two year wonders probably can't even remember them! We all know that there is a manpower shortage in patrol, but robbing from Peter to pay Paul ISN'T the solution!
So before you run your mouths off on another copper, try and use what little brain cells you exhibit before writing something that clearly shows your intelligence level!
We have no Tactical Waterbourne capabilities as it is. The Marine Unit was our only defense on the waterfront (26 miles worth). And they are being sent elsewhere. Good idea. Chicago is also an International seaport with zero customs presence.
Last year the FBI conducted waterbourne tactics for ship boarding, ship assaults and disabling vessels with a select group of CPD Officers. Nothing since has been carried out or followed up upon. Why?
Is the threat gone? Do we have a secret society of SEALS protecting our shores, our waterways, our ports? Does the FBI have a fulltime team out there patrolling? Is the Marine Unit trained to encounter force on force waterbourne threats beyond handguns?
You get three guesses and the first two don't count. The answer is HELL NO!!! We are fucked when Mumbai style assault teams come here to wreek havoc. After the smoke clears and the body count is sufficient, the city will impliment some crack pot program to combat that which has already occurred.
The United States of Amnesia. The rest of the world prepares for plausible threats, we prepare for elections of crooked politicians to save us from ourselves. Fucking pathetic!
Stretch it out Chicago--and the rest of America for that matter--we're about to kiss our own asses good-bye.
10/07/2010 12:18:00 AM
Google "Mumbai" dumbfuck. See how they arrived to kill 200 people. God you're an asshole.
10/07/2010 09:40:00 AM
One by Land, Two by Sea, Three by Clout.
If the Marine Unit is the CPDs only hope for preventing a Mumbai-type incident from happening in Chicago, we are f*cked with your clouted d*ck.
So once the terrorists get ashore, the plan is to call the Mounted Unit drag your boats across Lake Shore Drive to State and Lake?
Or do you let them into the Ship and Sanitary Canal so they can attack Pilsen or Little Village and never be seen again? Lead them to 26th St. and so they can become the sixth MSF platoon?
Or just have the bad guys hang out at Navy Pier until you arrive with grappling hooks to save the day?
Get over yourself.
You all make me embarassed for us as police officers. Everyone thinks they're better than the next guy. "I work a beat car so I'm better than the po in Caps," "I am in MSF so I'm the real police and the rest of you suck," "I work on the West Side so the guys in 016 aren't the real police."
You all sound like a bunch of assholes. I'm not in a unit. I work a beat car. I don't care what any other officer does. If you need to work inside because it works for your schedule or your family situation, more power to you. If you want to be on a tact team, good for you. If you don't want to make arrests, write tickets, etc., I understand; likewise if you want to do those things.
All this whining and bitching about what other po's work just takes away from real issues we are facing.
We all wear the same uniform and that makes all of us the "real police." A person can shoot an officer on the street, at the desk, during a CAPS meeting and yes, on a boat.
The idiots who run our department with Jody at the top make our job hard enough. You guys just make it worse.
Leave the Marine Unit alone. Who would keep us safe from Renegade Indian Casino Boats invading our shores. They keep us safe from Somalian Pirates. They are also a deterrant to invasion by those damn Cheeseheads.
Send them to Florida in the winter so they can continue to hone their skills of talking to chicks and tanning lotion application.
For the "goof" who wrote about the "goof who wrote about" the 025 Robb Team in an earlier thread:
-wonderboy MS is indeed a great police officer that puts people in prison, very dedicated and hardworking and all around nice guy
-but, he only has about 5 years on the job so he wasnt putting anyone away when momma was wiping drool off mouths
-and, Sgt RR being the best in 025?????? Not too sure where you work, but its definetley not here.
Dont trust him and be wary of his politeness, he wont think twice about screwing you over to get ahead or make himself look good for his superiors.
Just to let everyone know they messed up on overtime checks until next friday the 15th. So thanks city workers for messing up my vaction. You suck!!!!
Just get out there and do what you are told. You are an Elite Unit with many perks, and if you have to do real police work for a few months, just do it and quit whining. You guys fish people and bodies out of the water, you aren't Navy Seals. Most of you guys have mucho O.T. built up and can take a month or 2 off, no problem, in the winter, so if you dont want to work, just take time due and go to the Carribeanor somewhere warm and ride the Dolphin.
The Mumbai terrorists arrived by sea from Pakistan to avoid the hassle of trying to smuggle weapons in past a border patrol. So unless the terrorists are from Canada we should be okay. What would the marine unit do anyway? Attempt a "broadsides and boarding parties" engagement with a zodiac style speed boat?
THIS IS WHY THIS DEPT SUXS =BECAUSE OF THE CLOUTED. Get rid of the horse police too. WTF do they do Parades and maybe some crowd control. Wilbur has gots to go
Tough shit. Enjoy beat #1112
No big deal...
Oddly, Chicago DOES have an icebreaker of sorts:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/corydalus/387194257/
So what, there all clout heavy jag's anyway.
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During the winter months, the Marine Unit do nothing other than swimming in local pools, working out in the gym and sleeping on a boat in the harbor. They should be sent to units to do some police work. Steve Georgas is right on this one and remember, he used to be the Lieutenant in the Marine Unit, so he knows exactly what they do in the winter.
3 seperate agg batt/firearms last night in the deuce, 5 total shot. 1 other incident with shots fired and A1 gang team recovering a pistol with a head. Almost felt like old times in 002. The rest of the week/weekend should be fun times with the weather staying warm. Walk in to a backlog, leave in a backlog. No, we don't need more officers, we need more platoons in MSF! Ugh!
Really Jr?? three seperate shootings in the duece make it seem like the old days??? hahahahahahaha, young lad, you have no idea what the old days in the duece were like. you would have three seperate shootings at three seperate buildings within ten minutes... mop up those ones then you would have to head to stateway to mop up 3 more shootings... then lunch then you better make your way back to federal because im sure two or three more are gonna be shot somewhere in the taylors before the night ends... 3 shootings in a single night please... you really have no idea what the duece was like in the late seventys, eightys and early-mid 90s... bodies flying out windows, bodies in abando's, 5 or 6 shot in one shooting in the lobby, people tied up in cars in the courtyards and started on fire.... those were the old days.... but what do I know... im just an old old dog ;)
"We are fucked when Mumbai style assault teams come here to wreek havoc. After the smoke clears and the body count is sufficient, the city will impliment some crack pot program to combat that which has already occurred."
As bad as some departments in this country are run, it will never get as bad as the Mumbai terrorist attack. Their police had weapons that hadn't been fired in years, some had no ammo, others were not trained in their use and some of the cops just dropped their weapons and ran like hell. (remind you of anyone? - haha)
If they attacked Chicago, I am sure that CPD coppers would end it quickly. The only troubling thing is that things like this can be prevented, but with idiots in charge making bad decisions, the likelihood of that happening is slim to none.
BID OUT! You don't wanna get detail for four periods to another SPECIAL unit? BID OUT!
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I hope you are a supervisor saying shit like this. If you are stay the F off the blog. If you are not get a clue.
We are in a sorry state when any officers who have a position you do not is the object of your hate.
I recently worked special with an officer who I had never met he complained that I was a detective and that he wasn't. He then told me how all people who don't work a beat car are connected. He told me he would not do any work because the city screwed him and then left for about 4 hours while I stayed on the platform.
The haters are painting with to broad a brush. We all know there is to much cronyism on this job but to assume everyone who has a position that you don't is an asshole is bs and then to use it to justify doing nothing is being a bigger bitch than the people you are bitching about.
The administration has us right where they want us with hate like this between officers.
Looks like the " Worst Performer List" is catching on in Det Div now. Hope you still have a uniform that fits, ESPECIALLY in A/3 which is going to provide most bodies. The Dept has done all it can to divide and conquer us and now we are about to get walked all over, and the silence of the F.O.P. Is just pathetic.Where do you think these "Platoons in those fruity units" are going to come from. The problem is the new bodies are going to be 2 man foot posts.
Also heard from a good source that the marine unit is getting rid of 3 boats due to the high cost of maintaining them. The dept. has purchased 6 jet skis. Two officers per jet ski. Brass believes these can respond quicker to scenes as they will be patrolling the waterways same as squad cars.
If they get away with this who is next ? Geee let's borrow some ET's seeing that crime is down , or the SWAT TEAM , or CANINE , or the BOMB TECH'S . Once these moron's set a precedence they will keep doing whatever they want to do. Why even have specialized units with trained professionals ? Thanks FOP.
OT. I have the info everyone has been waiting for. Meeks will not stop preaching at his southside "mega church" if elected mayor. Everyone can stop worrying now.
Seriously if he wins we are all fucked
Poor babies. Some of you have been taken care of your whole career. One call after another. Go cry to your clout. Maybe they can find you a spot. You all know how this shit works.
No Marine unit, no Bomb and Arson, what's next?
The M/U used to be down in the winter. Went to housing or detail unit. Guys liked it, the only chance for any O/T.
Then the sgt died...lots of reasons and mistakes, but she was out of shape. So the answer was to keep the unit up year round to train in the off season.
Now you work all summer knowing you can't get time off, but you know that when you sign on, not a problem. Now they send out half the unit in the winter so you can't take off then either.
What are guys in thier sixties who have been in the unit for 30 plus Years gonna do?
This is just punishment because georges hated the guys there.
The bosses probably knew the unit wouldn't get any support from the rank and file. For some reason people are jealous of the hardest working guys on the department.
So go ahead and call names, but it is just "divide and conquer."
The bosses love to see it.
There are just some times you need those guys in the boats. In almost 30 years I have worked districts along the lakes and rivers and some times you just need those guys in the boats.
And it doesn't end in fall/winter.
Daley is the same nin-com-poop who wanted to sell off the Marine Unit to the state. He wanted to send away the Coast Guard.
He did sneak in and destroy Meiggs Field. There is no end to their greed and ego.
And just today, the Marine Unit was out their getting a 14 month old murder victim Dontrell Johnson (RIP) from a boater in Lake Michigan. Are we going to issue those MSF elite troops swimmies.
We need to lean on our aldermen to hire more police.
TRU is done with time to pack up. I am sorry to say. Too bad there are some good cops that will get let go.
TRU dat! Those Marine unit guys should come over to the old 007th Dist. Us guys in TRU could use a fewmore bodies.
DOES THE MARINE UNIT HAVE VEST?
Anonymous said...
O.T.
Several LAZ parking machines stolen/broken into/dumped on the near west side recently.
That's real sad!
10/07/2010 02:10:00 AM
I "accidently" hit a box with my beater. LOL!
nymous said...
Watch what Salt Lake City is doing for terrist training. Puts CPD to shame.
10/07/2010 03:58:00 AM
They watch a streaming video per day?
Anonymous said...
So what, there all clout heavy jag's anyway.
10/07/2010 01:02:00 PM
Maybe but they do know proper spelling and punctuation.
HATER said...
DOES THE MARINE UNIT HAVE VEST?
10/07/2010 06:41:00 PM
Yes, and more than just one.
Mounted Unit won't go out. They are funded by a private citizen. If that citizen got wind they might stop.
Approx. 100 people took the last MU test. 50 failed the swim test. Most memebers are former life guards, military and have dive experience. Not 2 mention the one nut who swims the English Channel and everyother body of water.
As for phone calls. Yes, that always helps, but isn't the rule.
They won't be answering calls, so they won't be helping patrol. SMOKE AND MIRRORS.
Anonymous said...
No Marine unit, no Bomb and Arson, what's next?
10/07/2010 05:19:00 PM
Don't forget school patrol and crime lab. Soon the entire police department will be priv-a-tized and will be handled by the Vanecko & Davis Municipal Security Company.
No fucking contract, no marches on City Hall or HQ, don't like conditions? Your fired! Prepare yourself.
But that won't affect you guys in MSF and TRU who sit and have long meaningful talks with your bosses over lunch and get all dewey eyed listening to them tell you how great they are and then you can feel real good about yourself when they allow you to steal a half hour to go home early after a good night making bullshit weed pinches.
Best of luck you you guys and girls. The real police would puke if they saw what you simpletons consider good police work.
All is not lost but it is getting close.
Anonymous ulearn said...
BID OUT! You don't wanna get detail for four periods to another SPECIAL unit? BID OUT!
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I hope you are a supervisor saying shit like this. If you are stay the F off the blog. If you are not get a clue.
We are in a sorry state when any officers who have a position you do not is the object of your hate.
I recently worked special with an officer who I had never met he complained that I was a detective and that he wasn't. He then told me how all people who don't work a beat car are connected. He told me he would not do any work because the city screwed him and then left for about 4 hours while I stayed on the platform.
The haters are painting with to broad a brush. We all know there is to much cronyism on this job but to assume everyone who has a position that you don't is an asshole is bs and then to use it to justify doing nothing is being a bigger bitch than the people you are bitching about.
The administration has us right where they want us with hate like this between officers.
10/07/2010 02:39:00 PM
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Man I second what you say. I have never been in the Marine unit but have needed them a couple of times in my 20 plus years and they came through like champs. I also know what its like to work special with some of these Officers you talk about. They bitch all day about how they got screwed and they never get to go no where and they are better then everyone else and only people with clout can go places. (But they would never think of giving up their Special to younger Officers but that is another Story.)
Here is a lesson for you youngsters. There are 2 types of people in units. Those who have clout and those who actually work. If a unit had all clout people then nothing would get done. The bosses know this so if you have worked for them in the past and produced they MAY call you up when they get a unit. That happened for me in the past. They are not looking for the dogs who complain all day how they are looked over. They want Officers who work and do not have to toot their own horn.
IF you think everyone working a unit or 35th St has clout then your tin-foil hat must be too tight.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Maybe but they do know proper spelling and punctuation.
10/07/2010 07:04:00 PM
Maybe you should learn when to use a comma.
Anonymous said...
Leave the Marine Unit alone. Who would keep us safe from Renegade Indian Casino Boats invading our shores. They keep us safe from Somalian Pirates. They are also a deterrant to invasion by those damn Cheeseheads.
Send them to Florida in the winter so they can continue to hone their skills of talking to chicks and tanning lotion application.
10/07/2010 11:51:00 AM
Why ya got to pick on the cheeseheads?
God, and we wonder why this department is imploding? Everyone is so jealous of everyone else it's laughable! I came on this job several years ago and know that my only shot at promotion is taking the exams. I don't know people in high places, I don't have a phone call and I'm not naive enough to think that I don't need one. But I certainly don't begrudge the people that are able to make it to the good spots like the marine unit. I knew exactly how the game was played before I signed up for the job. Grow up folks and quit whining!
I gotta say, I don't ever want to have to go rescue some moron from a floating ice chunk in Garfiled Park Lagoon in the middle of January....so let the marine unit stick around so I don't have to. And I have a feeling the first time a kid falls into Lake Michigan this winter season, you lakefront district guys will be cursing the marine unit for being detailed out.
Just last night we were looking for two shooting offenders in the 17th and 20th districts along the north branch of the Chicago river. We requested the helo and the marine unit showed up with one of those fast boats and helped conduct a search with their spotlights. I couldn't believe how fast they got there and we didn't even request them . They really are a an essential unit despite what all you others think. Thanks for showing up and keep up the good work midnight crew.
If the Mumbai attackers landed south of 26th st. the GD's would steal their boats and sell them dope. If they landed north of north avenue they would be sexually assaulted from the people in the talking bushes in Lincoln Park. If they landed in the loop at night, they would meet thugs. The two man team on M4 is safe.
The lake is a Big threat in the Winter time too.More like a natural barrier. Let the CLOUTED work the streets. LoL Send in the Horse guys too. They dont even know how to ride like NYPD. 055 Another Clouted useless unit.
THAT'S BULLSHIT-YOU MUST HAVE NOT BEEN ON THE JOB WHEN THE BULLS WON. 055 WERE A BIG HELP. HELPED OUT MANY PO'S THOSE NIGHTS.
"TRU is done with time to pack up. I am sorry to say. Too bad there are some good cops that will get let go."
By "let go" do you mean they'll come back to the districts?
If they're that good, we can use them!
The Marine Unit responds to different types of jobs all year round and even though there may not be as many calls in the winter months they still get jobs and are always willing to respond without hesitation. I work in Area 2 and I remember one cold winter when they dove under the ice in the Beaubian Woods Lagoon looking for evidence in the homicide of a flight attendant ( Tracey Todd ) whose remains were found in the area. It was a bitter cold day and they had divers and people on shore working their butts off in the ice and frigid water that did everything they could possibly do to assist. When you have units that are really specialized such as this one , Canine , SWAT , and many others why not let them do the job they are paid and, trained to do ?
10/07/2010 09:18:00 AM
Except SWAT is the only specialized unit you mentioned that still makes the same pay as a beat cop and I am sure they are the most trained unit in the city! Makes you wonder why they do it?
Im in the marine unit, half the guys here dont even wear guns to work. SG is 100% right on this one. The only reason they are pissed is because they wont be able to sleep in the trailer.
"Their police had weapons that hadn't been fired in years, some had no ammo, others were not trained in their use..."
Uh Dude, we're not THAT far ahead of them.
Didn't Daley the idiot try to disband the Marine Unit years ago?
That worked great, didn't it?
Time to get the boat owners, especially the big boat owners to make some phone calls!
I'm not in the Marine Unit, have no desire to go there, but those of you who think they're unecessary year round have no idea what you're talking about.
SCC,
You heard it hear first that the large towels in the hydrant caper has been solved, the criminal organization responsible for it is none other than streets and san, it seems the work crew was caught on video after there clean up stuffing the towels into hydrants since there wasnt a garbage can close enough for them.
listen kids , years ago there were auto dicks and traffic cars assigned to every area
gone but the beat goes on
Another home invasion in 019 on 1st watch. Democrat woke up yuppie with tap of a gun to his head. This is happening more and more and most residents there are sheep. Plenty of south siders going shopping up north it seems. They don't like guns on the north side, so the uninvited guests are unlikely to face a hail of lead.
North siders watch out, they are coming inside more often, prepare yourselves.
When I was new there was the home invasion/murder in the west end of 024, son left for dead helped put two scumbags in prison with a death sentence waiting. George Ryan let them off death row.
These scum should go out feet first and have "the late..." in front of their names.
operations etc. He knows everything anyway. Just ask him.
Once again cry baby- I tried to get in the marine unit some time between 95 and 97 I scored highly qualified as only one other person had a higher score, then I went for the interview and the Sgt ask me if I had a phone call or if I knew any one, of course I said no. then the letter came it said Qualified. Qualifications mean nothing you don't even have to know how to swim.
Anonymous said...
The IDIOTS got rid of some good ARSON Detectives and left most of the DEAD weight behind.
10/07/2010 02:56:00 AM
)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
The above is B.S., since those slugs left all stats went up. I am senior detective with 40 plus years and run the day squad.
WH_603
people in the talking bushes. now that is funny.
10:44 PM
You are referring to the 1983 home invasion, robbery, rape and double murders of Jo Ellen and Dean Pueschel by the Mahaffey Brothers, Reginald and Jerry . The lone survivor, their son Ricky, now about 38 years old, watched helplessly from hiding as these savages raped his mother and forced her to perform oral sex before they murdered both his parents.
It can't get more evil than that. I would have paid a substantial sum to twice pull the switch on the electric chair. The Mahaffey Bros. remain in the IDOC.
I'm not a cop. Just a resident.
In a big city with huge frontage on one of the great lakes, I support having a dedicated marine unit. I don't give a shit if they don't do as much day-to-day work as other units. Boo hoo. That's life. There are different roles in this world. If you think it's a cush gig, get your padi certs and go join up with them.
I don't think this is shrewd resource allocation. I think this is hysterical stop-gapping for a police force that finds itself undermanned because of politician assholes.
Either way, I support my tax dollars going to fund a marine unit and if that means they're sitting around a station house on-call and drinking coffee during winter months, so be it. Who cares. Worth it. It's mind-bogglingly retarded for a city with a lakefront like ours, with rivers like ours, to not have a dedicated 24/7/365 unit for water.
Except SWAT is the only specialized unit you mentioned that still makes the same pay as a beat cop and I am sure they are the most trained unit in the city! Makes you wonder why they do it?
Really?? That has got to be the dumbest question on this blog. Why do they do it? Hmmmm, let's see, all the training, unlimited ammo, workout everyday, drive around and check out the sights of the city. And when they do get a job, break a couple windows, toss a couple flash bangs, blow a door of the hinges and handle business. Yeah, why would anyone want to do that?? Dick.
Well guess this is a time when theyll call in the coast guard. now youll have to fish on your rdos
Anonymous said...
I gotta say, I don't ever want to have to go rescue some moron from a floating ice chunk in Garfiled Park Lagoon in the middle of January....so let the marine unit stick around so I don't have to. And I have a feeling the first time a kid falls into Lake Michigan this winter season, you lakefront district guys will be cursing the marine unit for being detailed out.
10/07/2010 08:02:00 PM
Aw come on, they won't be doing that. They will still be cursing the clout needed to get in a unit like that. As if they didn't know before what the job is all about. someone must have told them it is all legit and they believed it.
Most of the time the Marine Unit doesn't do much. But when they have to do some things there is not enough money to induce me to put on an air tank and jump in that water. It isn't like going for an afternoon swim off North Ave beach.
They do something called black water diving. That is when it is so dark down there that they search the lake/river bottom by feel, running their hands along the bottom, looking for a gun, a radio or a body.
There are parts of the river that demand an exposure to communicable diseases report on every dive, and shots too if not up to date.
Try fishing a body out of the lake from the tailboard of a boat bobbing up and down in foul cold weather. Try running the boat on such a maneuver.
I can't do what they do and I don't begrudge them their pay or their spot in the unit. Everyone on this job would take a transfer to a unit if they could.
It is only the ones who cannot get into such a unit that cry foul. Somehow I knew that this job and city weren't exactly totally fair and on the up and up.
It's Chicago, get over it.
"I am senior detective with 40 plus years and run the day squad.
WH_603"
YEAH OK WAYNE, YOU MADE DICK WHEN 04? BEFORE THAT YOU WERE THE REVIEW OFFICER IN 015. WOW 6YEARS IN THE D-UNIT IN B&A. OK SALTY GUMSHOE, 40 YEARS=2STARS FOR TWICE AS STUPID.
Regarding the Area 6 statement about the terrible rape...
http://www.idoc.state.il.us/subsections/search/inms.asp
A92127 - MAHAFFEY, REGINALD
N12780 - MAHAFFEY, JERRY
Reginald looks like he's been someones girlfriend for a very long time.
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Another home invasion in 019 on 1st watch. Democrat woke up yuppie with tap of a gun to his head. This is happening more and more and most residents there are sheep. Plenty of south siders going shopping up north it seems. They don't like guns on the north side, so the uninvited guests are unlikely to face a hail of lead.
North siders watch out, they are coming inside more often, prepare yourselves.
When I was new there was the home invasion/murder in the west end of 024, son left for dead helped put two scumbags in prison with a death sentence waiting. George Ryan let them off death row.
These scum should go out feet first and have "the late..." in front of their names.
10/07/2010 10:44:00 PM
This must be the one on Barry mentioned on the news.
Glad I moved out of there. I kept Sig Sauer on me constantly, even in the fucking laundry room !
So Mounted The Horse Police gets Extra Pay Doesnt have to put hands on folks and goes to parades. ETF Why do we need them???? Just another place for the CLOUTED
"I am senior detective with 40 plus years and run the day squad.
WH_603"
YEAH OK WAYNE, YOU MADE DICK WHEN 04? BEFORE THAT YOU WERE THE REVIEW OFFICER IN 015. WOW 6YEARS IN THE D-UNIT IN B&A. OK SALTY GUMSHOE, 40 YEARS=2STARS FOR TWICE AS STUPID.
10/08/2010 01:57:00 AM
WOW!!!!! A detective that runs the squad? I thought that should be a supervisor's job?
You ARE the best detective around!!
Glad I asked you. Now sit down and shut up. Better yet, retire dinosaur!!!
Area 6 Homicide said...
10:44 PM
You are referring to the 1983 home invasion, robbery, rape and double murders of Jo Ellen and Dean Pueschel by the Mahaffey Brothers, Reginald and Jerry . The lone survivor, their son Ricky, now about 38 years old, watched helplessly from hiding as these savages raped his mother and forced her to perform oral sex before they murdered both his parents.
It can't get more evil than that. I would have paid a substantial sum to twice pull the switch on the electric chair. The Mahaffey Bros. remain in the IDOC.
10/07/2010 11:39:00 PM
The Mahaffey Bros., Henry Horner's finest. Still had victim's property when arrested. No cries of wrongful imprisonment for those two. Good police work brought them down.
I see nothing wrong with this. If you need a body pulled, cfd will be on scene.
http://openjurist.org/294/f3d/907/mahaffey-v-schomig
Just a little background explaining how much our legal system cares about justice. Look at how the Illinois justice system deals with animals who couldn't possibly be more guilty.
Trial after trail after trial after trial. And in the end, mercy. Mercy from a governor who will hopeful die himself in prison or at the very least return home to find that his wife of many years has died before his arrival.
That's the nice thing about justice. He doesn't sit on a bench or draw a pension, he just has the final word.
Every time someone retires from any job their experience goes with them.
Are you suggesting that people work here forever so we are never without their almighty "experience?"
Here's a news flash. It takes no more than 5 years to learn everything there is to know about this job. Add 2 more if you make dick.
If you have past this threshold and haven't completely figured this out, then you are an idiot.
10/07/2010 10:40:00 AM
Hey Karnack,
I am humbled by your all seeing brown eye. Beyond idiot there is the constant discovery.
unless you're stuct at Karnack.
You are referring to the 1983 home invasion, robbery, rape and double murders of Jo Ellen and Dean Pueschel by the Mahaffey Brothers, Reginald and Jerry.
--10/07/2010 11:39:00 PM
As I recall, the battery on the brothers' stolen car went bad in an alley. What to do, what to do. They looked around the alley and climbed into the first open window they saw.
Didn't Dean Pueschel have a .357 that he was never able to get to after being clubbed in his sleep?
Mahaffey brothers, Carr brothers -- why do we bother maintaining these life forms?
I see nothing wrong with this. If you need a body pulled, cfd will be on scene.
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How about if it's a homicide genius.
With the crappy economy and the horrible unemployment rate, we should all be thankful we have secure jobs and benefits. Stay safe.
By the way... SWAT doesn't blow any doors off any hinges any more.... They are essentially useless for search warrants.. They do a "Surround and call out" "Here ye here ye we are out here and have you surrounded... come out with your hands up..." What a fucking joke... Dude is flushing all his shit and saying... "Otay... I beez right out let me put on sum clothes" Flush.... "Oh Hi ocifers... come on in ... would you like some tea"? The SWAT team is good for hostage shit... don't bother calling them for a search warrant because they aint going in...
Mahaffey brothers, Carr brothers -- why do we bother maintaining these life forms?
10/08/2010 10:30:00 PM
Don't forget the Durr brothers, Floyd, Eddie and Eric.
Three brothers, one family, all in prison at the same time. Two for life without parole. Floyd went away for the Ryan Harris murder. Prosecutors asked for the death penalty but the judge ruled his IQ was below the threshold for receiving death. So life without parole.
Look up N43114 - DURR, EDDIE in IDOC for a horrific vision of a nightmare who once walked among us.
Eddie is doing life without parole for a string of sexual assaults including one of an 11 year old girl which his brothers Floyd and Eric participated in.
Their father Monroe Durr gave a priceless quote to the newspapers about the Durr boys: "His mother did the best she could with them to make them respectable." "They caused it on themselves; they are good-looking young men. They don't need to go raping." Chicago Tribune, June 21, 2006
Indeed. Someone was a bit lax in their upbringing I would say.
"Look up N43114 - DURR, EDDIE in IDOC for a horrific vision of a nightmare who once walked among us."
--10/09/2010 05:35:00 PM
Boy, you weren't kidding.
His situation is simple enough, though.
"Admission Date: 03/16/2001
Projected Discharge Date: INELIGIBLE"
Sounds like a second lifetime of indeterminate "SDP" custody on top of the life sentence...
Couldn't happen to an uglier, more frightening person. He's up on 19 charges, including "AGG KIDNAPG/CHILD<13/RETARDED."
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