Wednesday, December 08, 2010

Electric Fences

  • Chicago businesses would have a new crime-fighting weapon — electric security fences that zap would-be intruders — thanks to an ordinance advanced Tuesday over the Chicago Fire Department’s objections.

    The new ordinance, championed by Finance Committee Chairman Edward M. Burke (14th), would authorize electric security fences at least eight-feet high at all commercial properties so long as they’re not adjacent to residential buildings.

The Fire Department is raising some objections though:
  • But Assistant Deputy Fire Commissioner John McNicholas warned the Finance Committee that electric fences could make it more difficult for firefighters to access burning buildings.

    [...] “Firefighters, police officers — we carry a lot of equipment…When we are making our move, the last thing we want is to get zapped.”

    McNicholas was equally unimpressed when told that firefighters could be given master keys to switch off the power of an electric fence.

In this day and age, there has to be some fail-safe that would render the fence powerless in the event of an emergency response, isn't there? The CFD uses chains over electrified train tracks when responding to a CTA emergency to prevent an electrocution event.

We're actually kind of wondering if they can somehow energize all that wrought iron Shortshanks had put up over the past few years to keep the criminals at bay in our parks, expressway underpasses, businesses and residences.

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49 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I can say is I WANT ONE OF THESE. Maybe I can put my lawn furniture out, then.

12/08/2010 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first fence needs to be installed around city hall!

12/08/2010 12:53:00 AM  
Blogger It's McTwitter! said...

SCC:

The politicians passed this ordinance for one reason: To protect businesses from RIOTERS. Most police officers believe MAJOR CIVIL UNREST is on the near horizon. By the of end of 2012 is Phil's prediction.

12/08/2010 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CFD has bolt cutters and insulated cutting devices. They will cut the wires if need be....End of story.

12/08/2010 04:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i thought crime was down in chicago ???
just wait til an honor roll student kills himself on one during a burglary....."the punishment for burglary just became death"

12/08/2010 05:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Somebody call the guys in the white coats to take Burke to the rubber room.

Hey Ed maybe moats would be better.

12/08/2010 06:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Follow the money...

Where's the money in it for Burke and the rest of his mob?

12/08/2010 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why do we need electric fences? According to our fearful leader
J-Fled crime is down. I don't know why you would need to protect yourself if there's no crime. However, maybe crime is down because you can now own a handgun in Chicago? Maybe some potential bad guys are afraid of gunfire as
J-Fled is.

12/08/2010 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unsightly electric fences, they will have to be architecturally correct for Daley's Green Chicago.

Instead we should bury high voltage versions of these Invisible Dog Fences and have all the bad guys wear those electric dog collars. Then when they cross the line or get too close to a protected property-- ZZZAAAAPPP!
They're floppin' around on the sidewalk like an Asian carp.

Maybe TASER can make a remote control zapper for those collars.

RUN! ZAP! FLOP! Maybe just one more button on those remotes that would leave them SMOKING.

12/08/2010 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree about the rubber room. Burke has lost his edge. He is responsible for Rahm's tenant filing for a mayoral run. Rahm couldn't run out of that address, then. He knows that when Rahm gets in, life as he knows it is over. The same could be said for all of us.

12/08/2010 08:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Electric fences werent much help in Jurassic Park

12/08/2010 08:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like this country is becoming a death camp.

12/08/2010 08:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have not seen one in a long time but those things keep shitheads out because it hurts ! Its supposed to hurt !

12/08/2010 08:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

can we electrify j-fled's uniform so that he gets zapped every time he puts it on.......

12/08/2010 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Somebody call the guys in the white coats to take Burke to the rubber room.

Hey Ed maybe moats would be better.

12/08/2010 06:00:00 AM

But he does not need any he has cpd bodyguards 24/7 nice ed nice! On another note i have a fence around my home,bought a box to drop down current and wired it to the fence not enough to kill but enough to "zap"anyone who touchs it,the fun starts when your home and some one grabs the bars in the fence most now know not to touch it!

12/08/2010 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is proof positive that the
city council has too much free time
on their hands, that there are too
many of them sucking-up city money
that could be put to better use
elsewhere, and that Ed Burke has
outlived his usefulness and needs
to bail, just like Daley is doing.

12/08/2010 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a dumb idea. If somehow any
living being, person, family dog or
cat, touches the fence and is
electrocuted and the family sues,
what happens when and if the
business owner's insurance refuses
to pay because the owner created a
clear and present danger ?
Is the City on the hook ?
It is obvious that this idea was not thoroughly looked at before being thrown out there.
This ordinance is a can of scorpions that will come back to bite the city in the behind in more
ways than one. And the shyster lawyers will have a field day with
all the lawsuits.

12/08/2010 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How much does old eddie have invested in these fences. the first one can be put around his castle in 8. just more bullshit, instead of working on real problems.

12/08/2010 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put a fence around 007

12/08/2010 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

they need to put one of these fences around the 10th and 11th dist so these animals dont leave and get in to our neighborhoods

12/08/2010 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phil "RIOTERS" come through the front door not the roof !!

12/08/2010 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another Brilliant Brain-Fart by the Senile Englishman masquerading as an Irishman, Ald. Ed Burke...

12/08/2010 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eddie Burke is trying to kill policemen and firemen. Why not just take a pistol and shoot the CPS student burglars on the street?

12/08/2010 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have one! Had to install one, because they kept on coming into my backyard and taking my patio furniture! I rigged it so that whoever wants to climb that fence, beware, you will be jolted to the next yard. Its called protecting your properties!

12/08/2010 10:37:00 AM  
Anonymous An Old Sergeat said...

The first fence needs to be installed around city hall!

=================
Too late! The crooks are already inside.

12/08/2010 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember the time we arrested an elctrician. We charged him with battery and threw him in a dry cell. . .

12/08/2010 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now some homeless guy can figure a way to connect the neutral and power side of the fence and hook up his charger for his I-Pad.

12/08/2010 11:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'll bet it will be overlooked when Daley has one around his personal residence.

Great job City of Shitcago. If crime is down so well, especially violent crime and property crime, other than Auto Theft, then why does any Shitcago Business need electrified fences ? HUMMMMM ???

12/08/2010 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CFD has bolt cutters and insulated cutting devices. They will cut the wires if need be....End of story.

12/08/2010 04:33:00 AM

You my friend are a fool!!!!! End of story!!!

12/08/2010 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't wait for the first drunk fool urinating on the fence to get zapped and then the lawsuit that will follow.

12/08/2010 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If a business is burning and the fence is on well it looks like Fire will be sitting down and waiting until they know everything is 100% down and safe for firefighters to enter from any direction. If you place burns down in the meantime...oh well.

12/08/2010 03:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The idea was not thoroughly looked at cause the alderthieves are idiots.

12/08/2010 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 8:25: thanks for that one you made my day

12/08/2010 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Burke, how about claymore mines, punji stakes, trip flares and bouncing betty's, my god these idiots are really idiots. Time to retire.

12/08/2010 04:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CFD has bolt cutters and insulated cutting devices. They will cut the wires if need be....End of story.

Or you could let the mutha f***** burn burn mutha f****** burn.

12/08/2010 04:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"can we electrify j-fled's uniform so that he gets zapped every time he puts it on.......

12/08/2010 08:25:00 AM"



electrify only the zipper on his trousers.

12/08/2010 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a big problem with these "non-lethal" electric fences. Big problem.

I want them to be 25,000 volts at 400 amps. They should fry any thieving SOB with a Pop! and a puff of smoke like an electric Wisconsin fly catcher.

Other than that, good idea.

12/08/2010 08:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should be glad some of the politicians are swinging the other way and giving the honest citizens some protection from the predators. that being said, I wonder what Daley or Burke crony is suddenly starting up an electric fence company? Maybe Vanecko.

12/08/2010 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I can't wait for the first drunk fool urinating on the fence to get zapped and then the lawsuit that will follow.

12/08/2010 02:33:00 PM

And which alderman will that be?

12/08/2010 10:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read this earlier today on a different news site. I think that article said that the electric fence would have to be located within the perimeter of a typical fence, so anyone who gets zapped is already trespassing.

The "fail-safe" to shut it down would be pretty easy, from a building controls standpoint. There are already other building systems tied into the fire alarm panel. Elevators, fan systems. This could be integrated as well. Fire alarm de-energizes the fence through a relay. One could also tie it into security systems.

Of course, if I were a first responder I wouldn't want to take for granted that the fence is actually de-energized... nothing's ever truly failsafe.

-Not a cop

12/08/2010 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous 4477 said...

Follow the money is right. Burke sees $$$ signs. Of course the prick would be against any fence on our nations borders.

12/08/2010 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WRT: "The first fence needs to be installed around city hall!"

A great way to start building the Green zone! We should use 12 foot blast walls though... and razor wire, lots of razor wire.

WRT: "Hey Ed maybe moats would be better."

Ever see that mans castle in 8, might just as well. We still have those gators from the river right?

WRT:" Instead we should bury high voltage versions of these Invisible Dog Fences and have all the bad guys wear those electric dog collar"

Now there's a plan! If we had used this method of electronic monitoring we probably wouldn't be short one evidence technician today. Hey why not? If a Tazor is okay they a dog collar should be fine.

Like those bug zappers that you put in your back yard in the summer time. Zzzzzzzzzzzit!

WRT: "Sounds like this country is becoming a death camp."

I'm thinking that yeah we should stop using the word "parks" and call them camps instead. Like military outposts.


So what politically connected company is going to get this contract eh? We'll sell the program under the banner of creating those "much needed jobs"

We'll have to issue special licenses and permits, have training, do inspections, build a database like the one for firearms so that the first responders know what to expect -- ya know all that tech savvy stuff.

12/09/2010 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why electrify the zipper on his trousers? There is probably nothing in there...

12/09/2010 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If dude dies on your property committing a crime, you still can be sued in civil court I believe.

12/09/2010 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zL5XcZtBDKA

Check out this video about electric fences.

12/09/2010 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Idea! Why not put a fence like that all the way along our border with Mexico.

I'd pay good tax money for that.

Somebody did send me a rather sick photo of what happens when some poor dumb prick pisses on something like a 25,000 volt 400 amp 3 phase electric fence. It was pretty sick and I deleated it. Reminded me of when I forgot and left a Poish sausage on the grill overnight.

12/09/2010 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Anonymous, there's one you forgot to mention, " a Willie Peter " (White Phosphorus).
That would really make an attempted
burglary interesting.

12/09/2010 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we should all just wear those electronic dog collars, just get it over with.

12/09/2010 06:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I watch "The Walking Dead" on AMC I am reminded of large swaths of the City. Zombies stumbling around breaking or ruining everything around, killing and eating all normal life forms while contributing nothing at all and with zero brain activity.

12/09/2010 11:21:00 PM  

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