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- He pledged to steer some non-emergency calls away from the 911 center to the 311 center — to allow cops to get out of their cars and do more proactive police work, instead of going from call to call.
This has been discussed here and elsewhere and no one has yet made a move on it.
The 9-1-1 system needs a complete revamp. Too much BS and not enough bodies to cover the BS. Chicago responds to something like 90% or more of 9-1-1 calls where other jurisdictions only go to 60% or so. This means that Chicago is wasting resources on all sorts of calls that aren't necessarily police related:
The 9-1-1 system needs a complete revamp. Too much BS and not enough bodies to cover the BS. Chicago responds to something like 90% or more of 9-1-1 calls where other jurisdictions only go to 60% or so. This means that Chicago is wasting resources on all sorts of calls that aren't necessarily police related:
- Junior won't go to school
- Arguments (with no violence involved)
- Landlord/Tenant
- Dogs barking
- Noise disturbances during daylight hours
- Every single CFD call
- all manner of civil dispute
The list is near endless and we're sure our commentators can add a dozen more. There has to be a major re-training of Call Takers and a rewrite of what is and what isn't a police matter. That will allow the police to address actual issues with the limited manpower available.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Unfortunately what will happen, at least on the west side, is that they will adapt, and figure out what they have to say to get the police there. The only way to combat that is to actually start locking them up for it (false reports.) I have done it when they falsely say there is a gun involved, and we all fly there. The call taker is actually the victim, so call the zone and get their info.
Your forgetting the commercial store calls from the liquor ,comb/grocery and the 90 cops standing around schools for petty fights
There's nothing like being in backlog and we're sending an Asian speaker here, a Spanish speaker there, a polish speaker over here..etc... to translate. Usually across the district.
Waste of manpower and $5/gal fuel.
Missing person reports....hundreds of good coppers in call back...how about a designated line for places to call for the shitheads in their custody who just cant ever make it home in time......the northside districts get bombarded with these nonsense calls everyday....gotta be a better wary. Keep us focused on crime instead of a report f some asshole agency and the welfare of a kid who could care less
Don't forget all the "my 14 year old is disrespecting me" calls. Been to many of those. Our 911 center is a JOKE!!!
I dont think there has been an in progress call since they opened that dump on Madison. At COS the call taker sat next to the dispatcher and they actually spoke to each other and dispatched as a team. The system they have know sucks. In progress calls dont get dispatched for 3 to 5 minutes. Some shithead can be 3 miles away in 5 min. Not to mention the worthless call takers. Ask a fucking question would you shit
I do appreciate the effort. But a huge concern of the officers here in chicago is that why get out of the car to do pro active police work when I am going to get sued and go to trial for it? Many of us use to go out and do all of the things that made the chicago police THE POLICE.. That does not exist anymore. Things dont get done anymore for the simple fact that nobody wants to be sitting in federal court though a week long trial where they are lied about and scruitnized. The huge thing about it is the punitive damages. If the city would pick up punitive damages then it would ease some fears of doing police work. I know this is a double edges sword when it comes to fighting these cases. I personally do NOT want any of my cases to go to a jury trial... I know that they are nonsense allegations but a jury in cook county will belive anything. If corp council came to me and said do you want to settle all of your cases today I know for a fact I would say, sure I dont care. All of the people screaming about fight all of the cases are not the ones getting sued or have a case that is about to go to federal trial. However, I know that I dont want pookie or the scumbag lawyers getting money for being criminals. Its a shi*y system and either way its a pain in the ass. The only relief can be for the city to guarantee and to pick up punitive damages against officers. Maybe then I will consider going and doing the proactive police work again. Until then, one bag weed arrests, signed complaints and a hands off approach unless completely necessary. call me a coward or whatever you want to call me but ive been in callback twice in my career... Once for an incident that made the news in stateway gardens and another in sos. im out and cleared of all the stuff and back in a district but the time being held hostage sucks and is like nothing you will ever experience(except for being in jail). Still have lawsuits pending from 8 years ago all asking punitive... To me and to many others its just not worth it anymore. Stay safe boys and girls
I'm a suburban dispatcher, and sadly, you see this problem everywhere: send on everything, to avoid complaints/lawsuits. Even the most idiotic calls. If the new Sup. tries to change this, expect some pushback...
Please!!!!!!!No more bucket boy calls!!!!!!!!!
OT - happy mother's day to all the moms!
pretty sure new york doesn't take anonymous calls...you want service? Leave your name,......
A-fuckin-men! Someone needs to get on this
ASAP. Or have the supervisors grow a pair
and tell dispatch the calls we don't need to
ride on.
Over the winter i was sitting in a restaurant having my dinner, and a call came over the radio in the second district , to see the 16 year old caller who was upset at her mother because the mother didn't bring home any Harold's chicken for her! 100% true story,
i almost fell off my chair!
Traffic accidents..if DUI is not alleged,no physical injury,all parties have licenses and insurance, what's the point? It usually goes to arbitration anyway.
HOW ABOUT SCHOOL CROSSINGS?
If they insist on event #'s for these endless missions, limit each car to one specific mission period. Some beats have numerous missions compared to others that have less or none.
All station runs, messenger runs and G/O will be done by officers working inside.
The problem is that the mutts of society have become so accustom to the police coming out for every little thing that the moment the call taker tells them,"sorry sir/ma'am but junior not taking out the trash is not a police matter" the next thing out of big mama's mouth will be,"well then he got a gun" and we'll still end up going to that bullshit.
It's all Daley's fault. Early on, he told people to call 911 for ANYTHING!
Don't forget 'animal bites!'
I'll believe it when I see it. This has been rumored for the past 30 years.
I'm still laughing at the Bin Laden 8th Grade Graduation picture from a couple days ago. CLASSIC!
how about all the parkers, dept of revenue should get all those calls.
I wanted to report a long time and continuous problem with a dog barking and was shocked to discover that it was a 911 issue rather than 311---stupid.
Ever try to use Call-back? Just try to get through. Their automated system says they'll call you back in a few hours.
Sun Times article on Daley's hirings over the years:
2 that stuck out:
1-The mayor’s decision to hire career FBI agent Jody Weis as police superintendent —and pay him $310,000-a-year — is the most notorious flop for the morale problems it caused
2-Over the years, Daley has had a progression of fair-haired boys — from Ron Huberman, Forrest Claypool, David Doig, Harris and Abolt to Vallas, Rich Rodriguez, John Roberson and David Mosena — who hop-scotched from job to job before falling out of favor with the notoriously demanding mayor.
How about the "dog are in the park" complaints!
It is a "Fucking Park" where else is the dog supposed to go to smell flowers and stretch their legs?!
For all the "dog haters" out there! Just stoopid!
Da Pelon
There has to be a major re-training of Call Takers and a rewrite of what is and what isn't a police matter.
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How about having some elements of a crime for starters? How about having an 'emergency' element to it? How abount whether life or property are in imminent danger, for starters? How about just some common sense?
No mo' Baby Mama Drama!
And where do most of them orrignate from?? You guest it. The entitled ones!
Careful what you wish for. Those B.S. calls still need a third party to resolve them. This may be they way the reason for the city to start outsourcing some of our duties. Eventually reducing man power even more.
Michael Merchang appointed Buildings Commissioner by the ballerino. Currently Daley's chief of staff--hmm, what happened to the last chief of staff?
Is it me, or does it seem like the ballerino is continuing business as usual?
Nora Daley named to a lucrative post? Puhleeeze. What's next, Daley appointed a 'top advisor'?
Rahm is going to be Daley on steroids, you watch. McCarthy will be like Atilla the Hun.
Interesting times ahead.
One of the things Bratton did when he went to LA was a study to find out what patrol officers were spending their time on, and how productive it was. First result of that was a push to end responses to most burglar alarm calls. Burglar alarm companies pushed back, but Bratton got support for his mayor and a few of their councilmen so it went through.
What I find interesting is that the new guy is already pushing to get more people in patrol, while also suggesting a lower 911 response level.
beat ####, could you check this one out, mama is complaining that her son took her last can of dinty moore beef stew and is now out in the back yard eating it, she wants him locked up--- squad, are you serious--- beat #### it's yours, mama is 90 and junior is 67--- 10-4... true story, sometimes a supervisor needs to step in and just code the job but they are also stuck logging dozens of cars every night and have event number crazed w/c's breathing down their neck....
Get rid of civilians, unless they are retired coppers. A police office can tell a caller what they need to do without an officer coming to their locations.
I love when COD requests and they leave before we get there.
This is what the city is waiting for.... for you to jackpot yourself and IPRA and MARA GEORGES and the CROOKED AS HELL police board will strip your "time having" ass (replace you with a ppo for chump change)and send you to callback the minute there is a hint of problem with an "honor student." Jody JFled set the tone and the police board followed by stripping and firing everybody for the smallest bullshit. NOW they want you to go out and fire yourselves by street stops and activity that will scream of racial profiling. OK MCCarthy recind all of the stupid strippings and firings of the past administration and try just try to get your police department to
forget... can't happen , won't happen then prepare to have the city you liberals all wanted. K-TOWN all over the place.
If the city would pick up punitive damages then it would ease some fears of doing police work.
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The city can't pay your punitive damages. It's the law. You are the one being punished, not saying it's right. State and federal laws need to be changed to protect P.O.'s, but they never will; too many po po haters out there.
I'm sorry to say but this will NEVER happen. In reality it will get WORSE. In this nanny state world we live in the politicians would never allow it. Beside all it is, is a big game of "Pass the Buck" & unfortunately the buck stops at the poor copper........
This will never happen in fast districts like 025, 007, 011, 015, etc... The citizens there feel entitled to police service so they will say "I have a dispute with my landlord and he just threatened me with a gun". Or "my baby daddy came to my house and he threatened to burn down the house".
Only the responsible citizens will follow the new rules. This should have changed a long time ago. Now it's too late.
Please!!!!!!!No more bucket boy calls!!!!!!!!!
5/08/2011 01:02:00 AM
Speaking of them: I can't stand on a corner screaming my head off annoying people. Why are they given licenses? Are they crazy down there? Make a decision and outlaw this obnoxious behavior and enforce it.
i luv me some mamma! happy mothers day to all the mothers in scc land.
Don't forget all the "my 14 year old is disrespecting me" calls. Been to many of those. Our 911 center is a JOKE!!!
5/08/2011 12:29:00 AM
The joke is on you. The lists of calls to be dispatched and calls to be sent to 311 is authored the CPD, not the 911 Center.
The 911 Center is merely a contractor for CPD and performs as CPD demands. Over the years, diminishing the list of calls requiring a street response has always been considered the proverbial "third rail" by those at CPD with the power to do so, and with good reason.
The public is still pissed-off about garage burglaries being sent to 311, now imagine sending "DeShawn won't go to school" over to 311 and then DeShawn kicks the living breath out of his madear. Not good.
CPD has long-considered the sending of more calls to 311 as a recipe for an increase of injured victims, lawsuits and bad press. Good luck to the new superintendent in changing the lists without suffering any fallout.
OT--
Hate to keep bringing this up, but if you can attend the 'Street Crimes' training, GO! It's coming up again 20, 21, 22 June I think.
Don't know if anyone has anything about the guy who runs it, Pat McCarthy, 25 yrs. CPD, retired 10. John Farrell taught a day too.
I tried to get out of it, but was glad I went.
the call takers take the calls because its the same nonsense they call 911 with when they are off
I'm a suburban dispatcher, and sadly, you see this problem everywhere: send on everything, to avoid complaints/lawsuits. Even the most idiotic calls. If the new Sup. tries to change this, expect some pushback
No disrespect and Im not saying cpd are the real police but you can get away with that in the burbs, there are too many calls in the city of chicago to answer them all. We are wasting way too much time on habitual missing persons,junior disrespecting me,and ride with fire calls.
the best I responded to :
"she won't be with me, and her response, " I just don't likes him no more"
in the meantime, there were about 8 kids running around, a few in diapers.
a classic 011th district call
How about a shout out for Mothers Day. All of us police officers would not be here without the love of a good mother behind us.
In the 023rd District (2nd watch), only 9 cars up during a tour. Every morning, 1 car to do a school crossing (because the crosiing guard never shows up in the morning), 1 car to sit (for 1 whole hour) in front of the Israeli consul's midrise (they have their own "mossad" security, and 2 cars for the "quality of life" (to ensure that gang bangers make it to Uplift High School safe), and now days on weekends we have 2 cars starting at 0400 hrs.. These 2 cars are suppose to ensure that the ghetto gays and gays wannabe, leave the neighborhood after they exit Circuit night club. WHAT A WASTE!!!
Look who's been running the 9-1-1 center (OEMC) since its been built - political hacks. Your phone bill has been subsidizing the waste and corruption too.
Let's hope (hope & change?) Rahm gets the message as Sneed's column quotes him saying "most Chicagoans can't afford business as usual".
You have wonder with all this exposed corruption Daley and the rest of his cronies were re-elected.
I'm glad he's gone - now I wait for the headline that he's indicted or dead. N
Was recently in the ER @ Christ hospital. Saw what I saw the last time I was there. People coming in with hangnails and headaches. They bring 14 or 15 friends and family, eating, laughing, on the fucking cell phones. No insurance.
If Christ Hospital is a microcosm of a societal problem, (which I think it is), essentially, we have an entire underclass of useless, stupid people who cannot function in the "real" world and have no desire to do so. They are shitting out children they do not raise, who grow up to be worse than they are. They are illiterate and lack critical thinking skills. They don't care how much their problems, needs or wants cost because they are not paying for them. And the laws, rules and regulations FORCE institutions to not only service them but cater to them which leads them to believe they have some value and worth, which, of course, we know is not true. The problem now is that these vagrants, bust-outs, criminals, thugs, drunks and drug addicts are no longer a minority of people. They are an entire underclass of people who will soon bankrupt establishments and institutions that flourished under different times and serviced people who had values, morals and felt an obligation to pay for what they used or were given. And these useless people are EVERYwhere. There is no getting away from them anymore thanks to HUD.
I sat and watched the most ridiculous dramas, stupidity, an obvious lack of priorities, people who were rude and demanding, people who requested interpreters and then went back to their seat and spoke English, people who "knew their rights" but interestingly didn't care about the rights of others who were ahead of them. And I heard the use of the word respect ALOT, which I found amusing because those that used that word, sometimes three and four times in one sentence, you would get the impression by their behavior and appearance that they didn't really have a full understanding of the definition or concept of the word at all. And ofcourse, everyone who was busy and working was interpreted "to be disrespectin'" the shitheads in need of services. I can only imagine the grave nonsense police officers are subjected to every single day through 911.
I am a grandchild of Italian immigrants. They were not the stupid illegal people who are flooding our country today. And despite a lack of education when they landed, had pride and integrity and made sure their children did better than they did and were educated. In ONE generation (read Tally's Corner: A Study of Negro Streetcorner Men---Legacies of Social Thought) they did their best and succeeded. And when I looked around that emergency room I was thinking it was all for fucking nothing.
---not a cop
The problem is that the mutts of society have become so accustom to the police coming out for every little thing that the moment the call taker tells them,"sorry sir/ma'am but junior not taking out the trash is not a police matter" the next thing out of big mama's mouth will be,"well then he got a gun" and we'll still end up going to that bullshit.
5/08/2011 05:53:00 AM
Well then, the call taker goes to the next script which says you will be charged and arrested for making a false complaint.
Draw the line already! Enough is enough.
And someone in a position of command needs to tell these people running CAPS meetings to stop telling people in attendance to call 911 for stupid nonsense. I swear I can't recall how many times in a meeting I hear "Just keep calling, just keep calling". I mean the stupidest shit, "just call, keep calling". I want to reach over and slap these people, which are sometimes civilian. Facilitator my ass
How about those nuts in 012 the O'Neils that used to call about the mosquitos from their neighbors pool.
how about all the parkers, dept of revenue should get all those calls.
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Careful man, how many cops will get tickets that way. (sarcasm but a hint of truth). I have had off duty's pass my blue and white on the wrong side of the road after thier tours going home. Just thinking out loud
How about the vallet is taking to long to get my car.I got poor service by the waitress I think she is prejudice,no lie I got these at 018.
The problem is that the mutts of society have become so accustom to the police coming out for every little thing that the moment the call taker tells them,"sorry sir/ma'am but junior not taking out the trash is not a police matter" the next thing out of big mama's mouth will be,"well then he got a gun" and we'll still end up going to that bullshit.
5/08/2011 05:53:00 AM
and like what the above poster said: lock 'em up for making a false report. Ween them off the tit. Thanks officer for the heads up with call back being the victim.
Don't forget, this blog is also here to help each other out in our daily duties. If officers have any tips in our daily duties on what works or what doesn't, tell them here. A lot of times we forget to help each other out.
It is the Cloward-Piven strategy. The socialists want to collapse the system by overloading all services with B.S. requests, welfare, S.S.I. Emergency services. This is all coming to a head now. Collapse and civil unrest is what they want so they can rush in and institute the "CHANGE" that was promised.
I was there in 010 when the rollout of community policing was made and its attempt to stear a lot of calls away from 911 and a police response. the 311 was not around then, but wanting to do this and doing it were two different things. They had sergeants answering many calls. The tact teams were supposed to take in calls, but they never did and no one did a thing about it. It will be easier said then done. In some cases the people have no one else to turn to for help, i.e. landlord/tenent. The other issue here is the department culture that does not advocate the beat officers spending most of their time on their beat and taking care of and owning beat problems. I would think that the beats will be redrawn and made larger, but who knows what is in the pipeline. The best predictor of things to come is what McCarthy did in NY and NJ and I have seen a definitive answer on that. These could be exciting times for the dedicated and the working and sad times for the political hack crybabies who do everything they can do to hide out.
As a citizen I've been shocked when I call 311 for something seemingly minor and I am told to call 911. Isn't 911 for EMERGENCIES? Reading this post and these comments, I now get it. And it's sad.
What is 311 for then? Shouldn't this be where barking dogs, nonviolent neighbor noise issues and minor traffic violations should be reported?
OT:
I want to say thank you to all the Mom's out there, especially the one's who have to work today. Also, thanks to all the dad's whom try to make this day special.
Maybe boss you should look at reestablishing the school unit! The animals and thugs that attend these institutions drain manpower excessively! Why is it that cars that the CTA pays officers to work their days off are assigned to the schools? The CTA where crime is rampant is being severely short changed with this hair brained idea! God bless you sir,come out swinging you have our backs we have yours! This is a new era,and new challenge support us! Boss if you want good information as jfled would tell people "I never read that blog" meaning SCC the #1 blog in the country,but yet he had printouts of blog entries on his desk every morning to peruse.
Oh lastly PLEASE look at penelope trahans history this woman is a disgrace to CPD,she is now the commander of the inspection division,she has been in more trouble over her relationships than almost any other exempt and the list of exempts with disgraceful baggage is immense. Any questions about the bosses and the TRUTH come to SCC and look you will be surprised!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ever try to use Call-back? Just try to get through. Their automated system says they'll call you back in a few hours.
5/08/2011 07:03:00 AM
what are you smoking? they answer all the calls and callback within a minute usually. if the caller does not want to wait a minute they can leave a message to call them back (callback) which takes some time then. Callback as you call it also answers about 1500 calls a day that do not go to the street copper.
Amen!
In the 002nd District Aunt Marthas, a home for wards of the State of Illinois, is generating up to 10 "missings" per day on 3rd watch alone. These kids aren't missing. They leave the facility for a few hours and come back after they've gotten high or gotten a piece of ass. Aunt Marthas is draining at least 4-5 hours of manpower off the 3rd watch every day, which equates to officer safety issues as well as other beats having to handle calls for service for the beat tending to all of Aunt Marthas bullshit. How about revamping the entire "missing person" orders?
Forget all this non sense....what's important is HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY!
Got a call in 011 about a week ago where an 82 year old man needed the police because his 60 year old daughter was being disrespectful. That was time well spent
welfare recipients that don't contribute with taxes only should be allow to use 311
What about the sidewalk inspector call??For the life of me,I can't imagine who'd call911 because some drunk bum is sleeping it off.Nothing like seeing a squad car,a fire truck and an ambulance tied up on some jagoff who had a little to much to drink.Go to other big cities and you'll see the bums laid out on skid row.
The desk officers need to get off their lazy asses and get their own damn lunch!!!
The "Dog Barking" complaint always cracks me up. How about those "My teenager kids disrespecting me " calls? I don't get mad at the kids when I get to those calls, instead, I yell at the parents for not knowing how to be a fucking parents like they should be. Whack 'em in the head. I don't give a shit as long as they don't leave any marks in the body. And I tell 'em that if their kids fights back, I'm gonna lock up the shorty for battery. And if they don't like that, then DON'T call the Police!!
The "Missing Person" report should be handle by call back. Specially those 10 times habitual missing. They are a huge waste of man power and paper.
Oh, great. My department has lost over a dozen people in the last three years, and we haven't hired a single replacement. Now everyone that can retire is retiring. We get the same nonsense calls from the idiot dispatchers at 311 that you do, and you want to add to it by dumping all your nonsense on us. How about we cut off the BS at the source, and just tell the idiots at 311 that some calls are nonsense, and shouldn't be responded to? That would save everyone some grief.
O.T. & Breaking News
The bartender was seen boxing her shit and clearing out her office late last night. She's done as of May 15th!
How about instructing sgts to NOT tell the citizens at CAPS meetings to call 911 for everything? The whiny citzs cry about response time for non emer calls, to placate them and shut them up, the beat sgt tells them to get a better response time by calling the emer #.
@2:04 i think you said that before. Its bs. Every Pd in the country goes to anonymous calls. Believe it or not, some decent people are actually afraid about calling on shitheads.
"How about the "dog are in the park" complaints!"
Keep the dogs leashed, and the cops won't be called. It's that simple.
Thereby also ensuring that little Fifi won't get carried off by a hungry coyote, necessitating another 911 call.
There should be a runaway call back report in which parent reports his habitual offspring missing which at times is every other day and another report which the police would respond to a bonifide missing person report. These are situations in which the missing person might be a victim of crime or some other unusual circumstance. The Detectives waste so much time in the investigation of runaways who return two days after being at a friends home.,
And where do most of them orrignate from?? You guest it. The entitled ones!
5/08/2011 08:00:00 AM
This is embarrassing. What are we hiring? Illiterate boobs?
All no Police necessary calls should be directed to the local Reverends Office.
if the new boss can get officers show up for work on time , no early sneeks , officers to wear proper uniform and require all officers to pass power test every year to keep job or at least to receive step raise and to be promoted , (command staff )it'll be a major accomplishment
dump all exempts that never passed a sgt or lt test , also all are captains are a merit appointment , most lts don't waste their time applying for captain , it's an unnecessary rank $125,000 a yr to come to roll call late and not enforce any rules or regulations
It would be nice if call-takers would ask more questions. Instead of every disturbance with "he jump on me" in the narrative.
Could not have said any better when someone asked why do proactive work when it seems that doing this type of work causes beefs and suits etc...
There are coppers at call back who could be branded poster children for getting screwed by IAD even when they were doing it with search warrants and consent to searches.
Yes a lot of them were screwed by Weis and company and the talk out of the exempts mouths was that they could nto help because SWeis did nto listen to anyone but his own clique. (alarm clock sound)
He is gone and did any of you step up and speak up for the wrongs and make them right yet??
The new Sup should have someone review those cases that were sustained and sent forward to Corp counsel who in turn sent it to a Real Estate Law Firm , yes you heard right, A real estate law firm Montgomery and JOhns-look it up, for review and to draw up charges on 30 or so coppers.
Thought Hillard was going to do this but no one has brought this to his attention.
If McCarthy is the hard charger he sounds like , he will soon see who the exempts are that are not supportive of the working police and needs to either bring them on board or show them the field Lt's position somewhere.
Oh and one more thing, Sup. Still a couple Weis non-police folks on the payroll. Why have they not followed in the footsteps of Brust, Masters, etc....?????
True story: the day after the blizzard there was a call in 007 of a "freezing baby" the womans power was out and she needed a ride to her baby daddy momma house. These people have been so taken care of that they expect to have the po-lice take care of them their whole lives.
They've already done some of this, however it won't help decent people.
1.) For years they've been telling people to call 311. Decent, taxpaying people do this because they've bought into the bullshit that cops need to be preventing junebug murders instead of investigating burglaries and disturbances in civilized areas. They eventually tire of waiting on the line, never get an RD# and presto! No crime reported!
2.) The police will continue to answer ALL of the bullshit on the south and west sides because those in authority know that the simplest problem could grow into a quadruple homicide in the blink of an eye, thus embarassing the Machine and potentially causing disruption of bu$ine$$ as usual.
Carry on.................
Very O.T. but just received my drivers license renewal in the mail which says I can renew it over the phone or the internet. Renewal fee is now $30.00 plus service fee. Last time i renewed my license four years ago the fee was still $10.00. A 200% increase? How much more can these politicians keep raising fees. And they wonder why the city and state are broke. But Quinn has 100 million to keep Motorola in Ill. Can't wait to leave this city and state. (If things go right I can leave this job, city and state this December). Fuck you Quinn, Daley, Rahm and everyone else who fucked this once great place up!!!
We been takin' care of the "entitled ones from womb to the tomb". It'll never change as long as we keep catering to the rev's from the Make Believe church's.
Teach these hopelessly no brained people how to cope with life without calling 911 for everything.
HERE IS AN IDEA?
LET THE DOG CATCHER CATCH DOGS AND RIGHT TICKETS ON BITERS.
LET THE AMBULANCE DRIVER PICK UP INJURED PEOPLE.
LET THE FIRE FIGHTER DO ARSON REPORTS AND TURN OFF FIRE.
LET DCFS DO CURFEWS AND CHILD ABUSE CASES.
LET THE PROFESSIONAL LOOKING T.M.A
RIGHT TICKETS AND TOW CARS.
AND LET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT LOCK A-HOLES UP.
There has to be a major re-training of Call Takers and a rewrite of what is and what isn't a police matter.
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The whole department needs retraining.
Current OEMC dispatch policy is nothing more than a sop to the alderfools & their chronically non-contributory constituents that keeps Patrol constantly tied in knots answering bullshit. We used to have time and help enough to hunt down the dirtiest of dirty sons o' bitches.
(How about letting coppers be able to look at the pending board again?
At least we had total ownership of our beat and kept the board clear. Of course, it took some coppers in all their glory to fuck that up. This needs a reboot. At least it kept those of us trying to do it right in control, not the dispatchers. The decent Sergeants appreciated it. Hell, some Sergeants would actually dispatch from the pending board which sent some dispatchers into a tizzy because "that wasn't how it's supposed to go" but then again, that was another era of Policing)
Momma calls because l'il skillet won't go to school? Connect that ass to a DCFS case worker... Period.
Landlawd cut the utilities off? Refer that ass directly to the Building Inspectors and have them come out and issue citations until landlawd shits or goes blind.
Neighbor's dog won't STFU? Refer that ass to Animal Care and Control and get the ball rolling to confiscate the critter/cite the neighbor until he shits or goes blind.
A utility company puts up no parking signs for construction and needs a bunch of relo's & tows? Refer that ass the TMA. they don't do all that much and why have a car tied up doing a half dozen tows a pop?
Nut houses and group homes screaming for The Police when one of their clients climbs up on the spinning ceiling fan and takes a shit?
"He needs to go to the hospital for a psych eval."
Lazy bastards! Doesn't your charter & certifications require staff on scene specially trained to deal with these people and their "issues?"
The Police have no business responding to these types of calls.
It's nothing but a set-up for when The Police knock out, maim or heavens forbid, end up killing a challenged individual who has a mad on against blus shirts anyway.
It'll be yet another copper being perp walked into the MCC after the city runs and hides out of pure politics from supporting and indemnifying in a horrible situation gone plumb to shit.
"Can't y'all take him in the wagon?" GFY... Eat the billing for the ambulance ride or better still, you're supposed to have a contract with a private ambulance service anyway.
As sure as the fat lady fell down the stairs, if some of these "suggested reforms" take place; The Police will have a bit of room to breath.
People have gotten spoiled in that they want and expect to see a Police response for so much shit that isn't Police related.
All station runs, messenger runs and G/O will be done by officers working inside.
5/08/2011 05:24:00 AM
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And just who will cover the desk while that officer is doing the run? Some of the watch commanders actually did as they were told and ditched the extra bodies on the desk. We're in a new building and have 2 po's on the desk. The 1 po is almost never up front because they're doing watch secretary/radios. When we're short on the street, the desk Sgt acts as the desk officer and the other runs up and down back and forth all night. I'm not complaining, but we work every bit as hard as the officers on a beat. So don't look for any more cut backs over where I work unless they close the building down at night. We don't have extra bodies doing notheing inside.
They will all say "they be a man with a gun say he gwine to kill everybody 'round."
Or whatever lie they have to say to get the poleeses there. Same with a bambulance when they need a ride to the ER/family doctor. I never heard of "the bloat" as an actual medical condition until I worked the west side.
Anonymous said...
Don't forget all the "my 14 year old is disrespecting me" calls. Been to many of those. Our 911 center is a JOKE!!!
5/08/2011 12:29:00 AM
I had a woman call numerous times on her 8 year old, and on and on. Now he is 12, she is still calling. He just got his first gang tattoo.
Anonymous said...
It is the Cloward-Piven strategy. The socialists want to collapse the system by overloading all services with B.S. requests, ...
5/08/2011 10:18:00 AM
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Obama's Cloward-Piven Strategy
The American Thinker ^ | 2/7/2009 | Nancy Coppock
Obama adheres to the Saul Alinksy Rules for Radicals method of politics, which teaches the dark art of destroying political adversaries. ... The Cloward/Piven Strategy is another method employed by the radical Left to create and manage crisis. This strategy explains Rahm Emanuel's ominous statement, "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste."
The Cloward/Piven Strategy is named after Columbia University sociologists Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven. Their goal is to overthrow capitalism by overwhelming the government bureaucracy with entitlement demands. The created crisis provides the impetus to bring about radical political change.
Anonymous said...
OT--
Hate to keep bringing this up, but if you can attend the 'Street Crimes' training, GO! It's coming up again 20, 21, 22 June I think.
It should be called "Back in the day war stories"
Anonymous said...
The desk officers need to get off their lazy asses and get their own damn lunch!!!
5/08/2011 11:35:00 AM
Tell them, not us.
@ 10:03:00 AM...
"How about those nuts in 012 the O'Neils..."
WOW! Talk about a blast from the past!
UGH! They were some of the most smug, self important assholes ever!
Dumbasses had a high six figure house across the park from where some of the most murderous little assholes in the city sprang up.
People used to shit-talk 012 for being a "cake" district but between the village, 18th St., and the assholes at St. Stephens vs. the assholes in Rockwell vs. the assholes in Horner and the random assholes showing up (to do a hit & ending up dead) from Cabrini-Green.
012 in the mid eighties through late 90's was nothing but a small, concentrated free fire zone.
The unluckiest intersection in the city? 13th & Throop... !300 South, 1300 West... Enough said and those who were there know the deal.
Lol... everybody tied up on somebody shot and the O'Neils blowing up the phones at the desk crying about lack of service.
'Oh and one more thing, Sup. Still a couple Weis non-police folks on the payroll. Why have they not followed in the footsteps of Brust, Masters, etc....?????'
I hear ya! Are Climas and Daly still on the payroll?
And if so, WHY? Why didn't Hillard dispatch them
along with 3M and the civilian Cmdr/Retired Sgt./
Shortshanks ball warmer?
Do tell what Weis cronies are left still
I'm a citizen, and have called 311 with a non-emergency complaint (say, a car alarm that keeps going off every 5 minutes) and they ALWAYS bump it to 911. I mean, what is not considered an emergency by the call center? I just want an officer to eventually come by and ticket the motherfucker who thinks his '95 Audi is so valuable that he has keep the entire neighborhood awake. I don't need the SWAT team.
What about when grandma or grandpa dies of natural causes and an officer has to arrive and do nonsense reports?
Gerry's solutions are just Cline's warmed over. And what happened under Cline...
#1 crime stats went down
#2 the public started hating the police
#3 juries started ruling against the police in criminal and civil trials
I don't think cops should concern themselves with social problems like CRIME. The solution is there is no solution.
Want to reduce violent crime, then let the community come forth to solve violent crime, but solving crime by briefly jailing every mutt likely to commit a crime, is not good for the police. It works, but it's not good for the police.
First, it puts the onus on the police that somehow the police control crime. The police don't control crime, they respond to crime. Second, it lets citizens excuse crime by blaming crime on the police. The citizens cause crime, not the police and the citizens are responsible to come forth and testify against criminals in order to stop crime. Finally, it makes police superintendents think they can stop crime by micromanaging officers with redundant reports and procedures, and by moving officers from safe areas to bad areas. The end result is that police have less discretion to make reasonable decisions given where they work and many police buy into this crap theory, turning the place they patrol into enemy territory.
What happens?
Arrests go up, crime goes down, and citizens hate and blame the police for every crime. Citizens then demand outrageous punishments for police, which elected officials are more than happy to give them. Citizens don't believe cops when cops testify, which means bad guys go free and cops get hit with punitive damages. Because trials are so hard to win,the SA rejects as many cases as she can. "Good" arrests go by the wayside and cops use numbers to advance some nonexistent "career." Crime goes down, the superintendent moves on to a higher paying job and cops are left with the baggage of fending for themselves in front of civilian civil juices and the civilian police board.
Use your head. Do a good job. And leave issues like the crime rate to politicians and superintendents. They do a good job of taking care of themselves, make sure you're not out there taking care of them at your own expense.
Anonymous said...
There has to be a major re-training of Call Takers and a rewrite of what is and what isn't a police matter.
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The whole department needs retraining.
5/08/2011 06:11:00 PM
The only retraining I will accept is how to properly fill in my retirement PAR form. That is the only police report I care about.
dhabetler said...
beat ####, could you check this one out, mama is complaining that her son took her last can of dinty moore beef stew and is now out in the back yard eating it, she wants him locked up--- squad, are you serious--- beat #### it's yours, mama is 90 and junior is 67--- 10-4... true story, sometimes a supervisor needs to step in and just code the job but they are also stuck logging dozens of cars every night and have event number crazed w/c's breathing down their neck....
5/08/2011 08:21:00 AM
She's 90 years old? What if he took her last can of food? You don't want to check on an old lady? Shame on you.
MSF, TRU, and GEU are done. McCarthy also will downsize narcotics and vice.......Make your phone calls now boners
2.) The police will continue to answer ALL of the bullshit on the south and west sides because those in authority know that the simplest problem could grow into a quadruple homicide in the blink of an eye, thus embarassing the Machine and potentially causing disruption of bu$ine$$ as usual.
Carry on.................
5/08/2011 04:22:00 PM
uh, quadruple homicides on the south and west sides are business as usual.
Very well said 09:56 AM. A family member works at Christ as a manager. All I hear is how these animals come in and demand, demand, demand! They complain about everything, service, staff, waiting time and when it comes to payment.....PUBLIC AID!! One dog recently came in wearing expensive designer clothes, sipping her $5.00 Starbucks and when asked to pay her $2.00 Co-Pay, stated "I can't afford that!" We pay for this! This is the same individual that complains. These animals ha NO right to complain as far as I am concerned. But as you can imagine, this bitch walked out without paying, and I'm sure was laughing on the way out as well! As stated, this is why our state and country is going bankrupt! Start voting out the libtards and put America back on a path to salvation. Otherwise we might as well move to some other planet!
It is the Cloward-Piven strategy. The socialists want to collapse the system by overloading all services with B.S. requests, welfare, S.S.I. Emergency services. This is all coming to a head now. Collapse and civil unrest is what they want so they can rush in and institute the "CHANGE" that was promised.
5/08/2011 10:18:00 AM
So true, not many are smart enough to know about stuff like this and how it is planned decades in advance. Most in the Minority Community know or care that they are unwitting pawns of the Communist Party, via their tool, the Democrat Party.
5/08/2011 08:21:00 AM
call me back when momma hits junior upside the head with a brick.
"How about those nuts in 012 the O'Neils..."
WOW! Talk about a blast from the past!
UGH! They were some of the most smug, self important assholes ever!
Dumbasses had a high six figure house across the park from where some of the most murderous little assholes in the city sprang up.
People used to shit-talk 012 for being a "cake" district but between the village, 18th St., and the assholes at St. Stephens vs. the assholes in Rockwell vs. the assholes in Horner and the random assholes showing up (to do a hit & ending up dead) from Cabrini-Green.
012 in the mid eighties through late 90's was nothing but a small, concentrated free fire zone.
The unluckiest intersection in the city? 13th & Throop... !300 South, 1300 West... Enough said and those who were there know the deal.
Lol... everybody tied up on somebody shot and the O'Neils blowing up the phones at the desk crying about lack of service.
5/08/2011 08:43:00 PM
Right on that for sure. I never was in 012 but I had a lot of Hispanic friends that grew up in that area and a lot of friends that went to UIC.
You essentially had 3 different spots of projects. And 3 different districts all in one.
Let us not forget Ashland to Western from Roosvelt to tracks use to be all shit too before there was a Jewel and FBI headquarters over there.
I always though the projects on roosvelt and blue island were the worst.
am Chicago citizen in West Loop: in past several years, every time I've called 311 for what I considered non-emergency, I've been automatically transfered to 911 by 311 operator. WHY? each time it happened, I felt 311 operator had unnecessarily shifted my call to 911. made me very suspicious of 311. made me think I woke them from their on-the-job nap, and that possibly, they weren't even listening to scenario, rather, on auto-pilot switching calls to 911.
I'm a citizen, and have called 311 with a non-emergency complaint (say, a car alarm that keeps going off every 5 minutes) and they ALWAYS bump it to 911. I mean, what is not considered an emergency by the call center? I just want an officer to eventually come by and ticket the motherfucker who thinks his '95 Audi is so valuable that he has keep the entire neighborhood awake. I don't need the SWAT team.
5/08/2011 08:59:00 PM
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Their criteria is 'what needs a response car'. A ticket, on a recurring car alarm, requires a squad car to 1) witness it and 2)to write the citation in a timely fashion.
It's up to the computer or the dispatcher to prioritize the response calls. The alarm would then fall lower than, say, your neighbor being shot or stabbed, but maybe higher than two people shouting at each other on the street or a barking dog.
311 is great for the water leak in your front yard, the sewer cover that's cracked, the neighbor who keeps taking your garbage can, the growing pothole at the corner, the daycare center that clogs the street with double and triple parkers every morning... in other words, the stuff that doesn't require an immediate response of any type.
And, just to be clear, 911 and 311 are BOTH wrong for: your car that won't start, your daughter who's mouthing off to you, the convenience store's prices that are higher than the Jewel, your kid who won't go to school today, the snow that's blocking your driveway. Those are the things you call AAA for, or a friend, or a shrink.
Anonymous said...
I dont think there has been an in progress call since they opened that dump on Madison. At COS the call taker sat next to the dispatcher and they actually spoke to each other and dispatched as a team. The system they have know sucks. In progress calls dont get dispatched for 3 to 5 minutes. Some shithead can be 3 miles away in 5 min. Not to mention the worthless call takers. Ask a fucking question would you shit
5/08/2011 12:29:00 AM
Just the third post and I need go no further: this is spot-on accurate. Also, every call about the same incident goes to a completely new call-taker. And I know this sounds like Andy Rooney, but shouldn't they have a rule for these call takers that one line of comments, such as "man hit by wife faow" should never be allowed? Don't they ever review these calls? Frankly, it's just another patronage scheme to get around the sliver of legitimacy the police department has in its hiring, the same as the brutal Traffic Management Authority.
ALL wards of the state should be assigned an open RD till the day they become adults by legal definition. Forget this nonsense of writing a report everytime they leave or don't come back on time - waste of time, paper, monday, and energy.
the majority of the call-takers working at 911 are your "entitled ones". The same ones from the west and south sides. The same ones who bitch about their job everyday and abuse the medical, leaving others to pick up the slack. And for the finale... the same ones that are "educating" the ...'he don't mean nut'n to me' callers on exactly what to say to get police service.
Have you ever called 311 with a non-emergency police complaint? If you have not,you are in for a treat. When a citizen calls and wishes to report a theft that has occured, they get the runaround by the police officer who eventually answers. They do everything they can to avoid making the report. A women I worked with had her wallet taken from her purse. She called 311 a few days later at my suggestiion and was told they will not take a report because too much time has passed. I have seen this happen time and time again. This is the same bullshit that goes on whenyou report something to a district desk. They blow you off.
What about when grandma or grandpa dies of natural causes and an officer has to arrive and do nonsense reports?
5/08/2011 09:13:00 PM
And who decides it was a natural? Easing the elderly to an early demise so their assets can be taken is very common. Someday, if you are lucky, you will be an elderly person also, so until then, try not to be so cavalier.
MSF, TRU, and GEU are done. McCarthy also will downsize narcotics and vice.......Make your phone calls now boners
5/08/2011 10:20:00 PM
Shut the fuck up, idiot. You know not of what you speak.
*In the 002nd District Aunt Marthas, a home for wards of the State of Illinois, is generating up to 10 "missings" per day on 3rd watch alone. These kids aren't missing. They leave the facility for a few hours and come back after they've gotten high or gotten a piece of ass. Aunt Marthas is draining at least 4-5 hours of manpower off the 3rd watch every day, which equates to officer safety issues as well as other beats having to handle calls for service for the beat tending to all of Aunt Marthas bullshit. How about revamping the entire "missing person" orders?*
We had that issue with an Aunt Martha's in Aurora. Brass worked up a plan for them to not call unless missing for over a day and the calls have almost gone away
Justice Department probes Newark Police -- OOOps See Chicago Breaking News
Uh-oh. Maybe the fat lady has not sung just yet. Could it mean the other two were just resuscitated?Double damn!
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9:00 a.m. CDT, May 9, 2011
Justice Department probes Newark Police.
Federal authorities say they are launching an investigation into the Newark Police Department -- headed since 2006 by the man who has been tapped to lead the Chicago Police Department.
Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Rights Division Thomas Perez and New Jersey's U.S. Attorney Paul Fishman have scheduled a news conference today to discuss the Justice Department's probe.
http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/local/chibrknews-justice-department-probes-newark-police-department-20110509,0,1702987.story
311 can not handle minor disturbance calls, that is why they still send it to 911. They do reports on the phone only and answer questions. No report for a disturbance.
"People have gotten spoiled in that they want and expect to see a Police response for so much shit that isn't Police related."
You've got to remember that we're the only ones who answer the phones after 5:00 p.m. and on weekends, let alone actually SEND someone. Hell, even fire has us checking on a percentage of their calls. None of the other agencies you mentioned even come close
We're the most visable and available arm of government. This will never end as long as that's the case.
rb
How about the officers at call back send over an event properly...please dont send a DOMBAT event with no narrative....wtf or better yet 2 people fighting with weapons on the street is NOT a DIST but a BATIP....
"Every 'single' CFD call"
That's kind of a stretch dontcha think!?!
re: 5/08/2011 09:20:00 PM
the final element of this equation is de-policing, which, as stated, results in both more criminal acts being committed, by citizens, and fewer arrests, prosecutions, convictions, and incarcerations; blame for which is placed where it does not belong, upon the police, leading to more de-policing, more crime by citizens, etc., and the circle jerk of madness goes round and round and round.
this is the game that can only be won by not playing it.
only the citizens don't seem to want to stop playing the game.
dhabetler said...
beat ####, could you check this one out, mama is complaining that her son took her last can of dinty moore beef stew and is now out in the back yard eating it, she wants him locked up--- squad, are you serious--- beat #### it's yours, mama is 90 and junior is 67--- 10-4... true story, sometimes a supervisor needs to step in and just code the job but they are also stuck logging dozens of cars every night and have event number crazed w/c's breathing down their neck....
5/08/2011 08:21:00 AM
She's 90 years old? What if he took her last can of food? You don't want to check on an old lady? Shame on you.
5/08/2011 10:09:00 PM
And then what?
What police service is needed?
Yeah klimas and Daly are still working-why is this? Hit the bricks you two stooges....
NON POLICE FEEBS!
---not a cop
5/08/2011 09:56:00 AM
great fucking post
to allow cops to get out of their cars and do more proactive police work......
What's 'proactive police work?' Good luck with that. I'll be damned if I'm going to be smacked with punitive damages for being 'proactive.' Bite me.
Anonymous said...
I'm a citizen, and have called 311 with a non-emergency complaint (say, a car alarm that keeps going off every 5 minutes) and they ALWAYS bump it to 911. I mean, what is not considered an emergency by the call center? I just want an officer to eventually come by and ticket the motherfucker who thinks his '95 Audi is so valuable that he has keep the entire neighborhood awake. I don't need the SWAT team.
5/08/2011 08:59:00 PM
Consider 311 a do-a-report-over-the-phone hotline---if you need an Officer to respond to the scene (even if it's non-emergency)it's 911----but perhaps change is in the air
Anonymous said...
to allow cops to get out of their cars and do more proactive police work......
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... Good luck with that. I'll be damned if I'm going to...Bite me.
5/09/2011 03:30:00 PM
"Never get out of the boat."
will MLAS keep a commander , a sgt could handle that unit
Don't forget all the "my 14 year old is disrespecting me" calls. Been to many of those. Our 911 center is a JOKE!!!
5/08/2011 12:29:00 AM
while being out of control!
---not a cop
5/08/2011 09:56:00 AM
great fucking post
5/09/2011 02:51:00 PM
Exactly what I wish could get across to the sheep that don't get it. Not a cop, wish you were.
She's 90 years old? What if he took her last can of food? You don't want to check on an old lady? Shame on you.
5/08/2011 10:09:00 PM
And then what?
What police service is needed?
the police service here is being a police officer and not a robot who only relies on coding jobs. black gloves, hair gel and those cool earpieces that connect to your radio is not what being the police is about. Believe it or not there was a day that when an old person or kid or someone else who couldnt defend themselves out there needed help every car on the watch would show up to help. your a police officer first, robot second. not everyone out there has to be treated like a "savage"... too many kids on this job who are all about them. Go out and get that head, mother f' everyone out there and act hard towards everyone they come into contact too... you wonder why people hate the police these days. back in the day police officers kicked ass but were also very respectful to those who deserved it... Now, everyone including granny and little kids playin on the block are given hard looks and are mocked.. thats why we have lost all respect out there... we take our allies and make them our enemies.
Have you ever called 311 with a non-emergency police complaint? If you have not,you are in for a treat. When a citizen calls and wishes to report a theft that has occured, they get the runaround by the police officer who eventually answers. They do everything they can to avoid making the report. A women I worked with had her wallet taken from her purse. She called 311 a few days later at my suggestiion and was told they will not take a report because too much time has passed. I have seen this happen time and time again. This is the same bullshit that goes on whenyou report something to a district desk. They blow you off.
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To be fair, thats a waste of time. What do you think calling the police will do 3 days later? Ooooh...the magical police report will solve everything!
Traffic accidents..if DUI is not alleged,no physical injury,all parties have licenses and insurance, what's the point? It usually goes to arbitration anyway.
--General Order says to send them in but dispatchers fail to ask questions because they'd rather send a car. The usual... not sure if there are injuries crap! I have no problem responding to the scene and directing them to the station if all criteria is met. You can do the same.
The citizens there feel entitled to police service so they will say "I have a dispute with my landlord and he just threatened me with a gun". Or "my baby daddy came to my house and he threatened to burn down the house".
--And if it's a lie, LOCK THEM UP!
Anonymous said...
@ 10:03:00 AM...
"How about those nuts in 012 the O'Neils..."
WOW! Talk about a blast from the past!
UGH! They were some of the most smug, self important assholes ever!
Dumbasses had a high six figure house across the park from where some of the most murderous little assholes in the city sprang up.
People used to shit-talk 012 for being a "cake" district but between the village, 18th St., and the assholes at St. Stephens vs. the assholes in Rockwell vs. the assholes in Horner and the random assholes showing up (to do a hit & ending up dead) from Cabrini-Green.
012 in the mid eighties through late 90's was nothing but a small, concentrated free fire zone.
The unluckiest intersection in the city? 13th & Throop... !300 South, 1300 West... Enough said and those who were there know the deal.
Lol... everybody tied up on somebody shot and the O'Neils blowing up the phones at the desk crying about lack of service.
5/08/2011 08:43:00 PM
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The ONEILL'S have a son on the job from that big victorian mansion they still live in. Daddy is a professor at UIC, mom literally vacuums the sidewalk. Clout rules and yes the po po are sick of the calls and so was UIC police! Special People special treatment!
And then what?
What police service is needed?
the police service here is being a police officer and not a robot who only relies on coding jobs. black gloves, hair gel and those cool earpieces that connect to your radio is not what being the police is about. Believe it or not there was a day that when an old person or kid or someone else who couldnt defend themselves out there needed help every car on the watch would show up to help. your a police officer first, robot second. not everyone out there has to be treated like a "savage"... too many kids on this job who are all about them. Go out and get that head, mother f' everyone out there and act hard towards everyone they come into contact too... you wonder why people hate the police these days. back in the day police officers kicked ass but were also very respectful to those who deserved it... Now, everyone including granny and little kids playin on the block are given hard looks and are mocked.. thats why we have lost all respect out there... we take our allies and make them our enemies.
5/09/2011 08:47:00 PM
What is the police service? You can write as many incoherent sentences as you want, but you still didn't answer the question.
nonymous said...
dhabetler said...
beat ####, could you check this one out, mama is complaining that her son took her last can of dinty moore beef stew and is now out in the back yard eating it, she wants him locked up--- squad, are you serious--- beat #### it's yours, mama is 90 and junior is 67--- 10-4... true story, sometimes a supervisor needs to step in and just code the job but they are also stuck logging dozens of cars every night and have event number crazed w/c's breathing down their neck....
5/08/2011 08:21:00 AM
She's 90 years old? What if he took her last can of food? You don't want to check on an old lady? Shame on you.
5/08/2011 10:09:00 PM
And then what?
What police service is needed?
5/09/2011 01:10:00 PM
I'm sorry, I was mistaken. Possible elder abuse is not a police matter. 19P.
To be fair, thats a waste of time. What do you think calling the police will do 3 days later? Ooooh...the magical police report will solve everything!
5/09/2011 09:14:00 PM
Depends what was in the wallet or purse. Some companies want the RD# or they won't replace what was in the wallet (credit card, CPD id, jewelry, money order...
Many years ago, my wallet was stolen. One of the things inside it was an engagement ring. Insurance company wouldn't cover it without the RD# and I can't say I blame them.
---not a cop
5/08/2011 09:56:00 AM
great fucking post
5/09/2011 02:51:00 PM
Exactly what I wish could get across to the sheep that don't get it. Not a cop, wish you were.
5/09/2011 08:35:00 PM
No you don't. I'd shoot everybody. ;-)
---not a cop
I'm sorry, I was mistaken. Possible elder abuse is not a police matter. 19P.
5/09/2011 10:48:00 PM
Because eating food in the pantry is elder abuse.
ALL CFD calls!!!??? As a CFD medic for almost 30 years, I've worked all sides of shit-cago. You have no idea where we go unarmed and unprotected. I can't tell you how much we appreciate the help our brothers and sisters in blue give and we in turn help them. Please don't pull that bit of rug out from under us!
No you don't. I'd shoot everybody. ;-)
---not a cop
5/10/2011 06:39:00 AM
be my guest.
Chalkie
I don't think we should blanket CFD....... YES are some of the call unnecessary, but safety first for ALL OF US........ I have been on jobs when CFD would throw down with us and kick some major ass......
I will back them up anyday!!!! Remember we have to stick together, BLUE AND RED, we learned that this year with our losses and theirs as well.
Anonymous said...
I'm sorry, I was mistaken. Possible elder abuse is not a police matter. 19P.
5/09/2011 10:48:00 PM
Because eating food in the pantry is elder abuse.
5/10/2011 10:36:00 AM
You obviously didn't follow the entire exchange of posts. As stated earlier--what if it was her last can of food?
Also, what if he's eating her out of house and home and she is hungry and can't get to the grocery store? She's 90, for chrissake. You can't at least check up on someone that old, no matter how ridiculous you think her complaint is? If so, I hope none of your elderly relatives ever need assistance and get a jag like you as a responding officer.
I'm sorry, I was mistaken. Possible elder abuse is not a police matter. 19P.
5/09/2011 10:48:00 PM
Just give the elderly lady and her elderly son some cans of cat food. It's still Dinty Moore, just in different packaging.
Anonymous said...
I'm sorry, I was mistaken. Possible elder abuse is not a police matter. 19P.
5/09/2011 10:48:00 PM
Because eating food in the pantry is elder abuse.
5/10/2011 10:36:00 AM
You obviously didn't follow the entire exchange of posts. As stated earlier--what if it was her last can of food?
Also, what if he's eating her out of house and home and she is hungry and can't get to the grocery store? She's 90, for chrissake. You can't at least check up on someone that old, no matter how ridiculous you think her complaint is? If so, I hope none of your elderly relatives ever need assistance and get a jag like you as a responding officer.
5/10/2011 08:58:00 PM
No, you made that part up. Continue constructing your strawman.
Besides the Dinty Moore thief is 67 himself and momma wanted him locked up because she wanted to eat the fucking Dinty Moore.
I will tell you that none of my relatives would call the police for something so fucking stupid. That must be the difference between me and you. Your jag family would. If you had a fucking brain you would realize this is a call for family services not the police. So give this number to your family because they to resolve conflict and they need adult intervention/supervision: 311
You obviously didn't follow the entire exchange of posts. As stated earlier--what if it was her last can of food?
Also, what if he's eating her out of house and home and she is hungry and can't get to the grocery store? She's 90, for chrissake. You can't at least check up on someone that old, no matter how ridiculous you think her complaint is? If so, I hope none of your elderly relatives ever need assistance and get a jag like you as a responding officer.
5/10/2011 08:58:00 PM
You sound like a Social Worker. People like you blur the lines. Police are supposed to police. Dinty Moore is not a police matter. It's just typical ghetto bullshit and it deserves/warrants no response from anyone.
Or does Grama being hungry take precedent over someone being robbed, raped or murdered?
How do people like you function in the world with your bullshit facahcah thinking? You must lay awake at night trying to figure out how to save the world.
---not a cop
fellas, fellas--- take a deep breath, mama still had 10 cans of pink salmon and 20 cans of red beans and rice left, she wasn't starving--- she just wanted that beef stew....
Just give the elderly lady and her elderly son some cans of cat food. It's still Dinty Moore, just in different packaging.
5/10/2011 10:04:00 PM
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TACKY reply!! Shame on You!!!!
To 5/10/2011 11:00:00 PM:
How will you know that it is a case for social services unless you actually respond to the original call? Which is a 90 yr old calling that her son is eating her last can of Dinty Moore...not every call ends being what it starts out as...
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