Monday, June 13, 2011

Tales from the Street

Most cops we know like to hear war stories. What we hear nowadays aren't truly "war stories" in the traditional sense of the word, probably because the Department is actually a very young Department at the moment. And probably because we're on the verge of becoming the dinosaurs we used to snicker about years ago. But it was a good-hearted snickering back then, in the finest traditions of ball-busting and such. And when we'd go out to the bars, there would always be an old-timer or two sitting on a well-worn stool in the corner, drinking a tad too much and shooting the breeze, remembering years and coppers and bosses gone by. We knew many of these guys from the stories our father used to tell (the clean versions) and some of the names they talked about weren't unfamiliar to us.

We mentioned this website a number of months ago and we recall hoping that it would turn into something bigger than it was, because we miss those old stories, those old-timers, those good times (we certainly aren't going to call them "innocent times.") We're mentioning it again because we went back and the archives are slowly getting bigger and the stories are exactly as we remember.
Any old-timer thinking of memorializing their careers could get some good ideas from this blog. Any aspiring authors could pick up a lot of good hints from Jim Padar's writing. And anyone who remembers the old warhorses telling stories over a shot-and-a-beer at the tavern across the street might recall an era that is slowly fading from memory.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

For some good war stories, I'd suggest clicking on Paul Huebl's link and read some of his. He often writes some really good ones. Court shootings, airplane disasters, riots, just a bunch of stuff.

6/13/2011 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just remember, if you aspiring writers DO steal from the blog, the blog owner owns the rights.

Go enjoy the stories, but if you rip them off, you're going to pay royalties down the road, and rightfully so.

6/13/2011 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Padar's blog puts me in mind of a sergeant from the Wood St. station who would stop by and talk to us carriage drivers after a shift(not a cop, apologies for not knowing the district).

My favorite story was when he'd tell us about filling rookies up on a dinner of fast food, on him, then take them over to the morgue for the first time.

Priceless.

Serge, if you read this blog, thanks for the stories. They made our nights.

6/13/2011 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And anyone who remembers the old warhorses telling stories over a shot-and-a-beer at the tavern across the street might recall an era that is slowly fading from memory.
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G-D do I miss good old Ira's!!

6/13/2011 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...

"Most cops we know like to hear war stories".

True.

Except when they're recited by 5 year-on-the-job Hair Gels.

Or those that've spent their career safely harbored at HQ.

Or "Rangers" that hail from 020.

Yes, SCC, maybe 10% of current patrol members can actually tell "war stories". The rest know not what they speak of yet. Some will never know. Until that time comes, close your mouth, open your ears, and try to ingest and appreciate the wisdom imparted by what's left of the remaining dinosaurs on the job. It's a rite of passage we all had to go through, so don't take it personal when that salty dog old timer tells you to "Shut the fuck up, kid!"

God bless all the retired Old School, Real Deal coppers. You fellas authored a chapter of CPD that'll never be rewritten.

6/13/2011 01:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Need "Gloves Davis" and Superman (L decoy). These two would simply beat the mob thugs punk bitch coward asses up and down Michigan Ave.
Love to the c the you tube video. Sorry to the Mommas of those mob thugs who are honor students or who are turning their lives around by only using and not selling.
I/F

6/13/2011 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

War stories: Why make us all jealous. We cant have any fun on this job anymore, bosses make that impossible. God forbid we do. Its either a law suit, a cr or 30 days pending. Brothers in blue! Whatever. If you think any of these officers today would put their job on the line to back another officer up you are living in the past. Screw this job. KEEP YOUR WAR STORIES

6/13/2011 02:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for re-posting the link; I've been meaning to go back and find it in the archives so I could set a bookmark. Great, great stories and very well written.

6/13/2011 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

War stories: Why make us all jealous. We cant have any fun on this job anymore, bosses make that impossible. God forbid we do. Its either a law suit, a cr or 30 days pending. Brothers in blue! Whatever. If you think any of these officers today would put their job on the line to back another officer up you are living in the past. Screw this job. KEEP YOUR WAR STORIES

6/13/2011 02:50:00 AM

Those bosses are probably the same ones that were trying to keep me out of trouble. Fun, asshole? We were doing police work that gave us a small amount of satisfaction. Doing the right thing and all that.

From your post I gather that's been lost on your generation. There are some good kids out there, but by and large, you are a self important bunch of whiners. Mom and Dad did too good a job telling you that you were special. You are not.

6/13/2011 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm wondering how many of those old timers have some great stories but can't or don't want to take the time to type them out. This would be a nice opportunity for children, grandchildren or neighbor kids to get some service hours for Catholic school by transcribing those memories.

Just a suggestion from someone who does a lot of genealogy. When those stories are gone, there's no getting them back. It often takes a little effort, organizing and prodding, but if you can make it easy and convenient for the storytellers, they really do enjoy reminiscing and it's also a way of honoring their lives and experiences while they are still here.

Maybe someone could organize an event or Mr. Padar can place a link on his site to bring the retired officers and the transcribers together.

They can't meet in a bar though. ;-)

---not a cop

6/13/2011 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This one time in Fillmo, my FTO stuck his kel light..........

6/13/2011 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kinda a fumny story.

I have a high school friend whos dad was a patrolman in the 1960's in one of the northern burbs.

Her mom tells a story about how late one really, windy, cold, winter night her dad was issuing a speeding ticket to a driver on Skokie Highway (old Hwy. 41).

The speeder says to the young patrolman, "I'm not happy about this ticket but it looks like you're more broken up about it then I am over it."

Buck Naked
(Not a cop)

6/13/2011 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Definition of the "Real Police".
PO who make makes it to the finish line (retirement) in one piece with his health, freedom, and pension intact. Any questions?

6/13/2011 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

War stories: Why make us all jealous. We cant have any fun on this job anymore, bosses make that impossible. God forbid we do. Its either a law suit, a cr or 30 days pending. Brothers in blue! Whatever. If you think any of these officers today would put their job on the line to back another officer up you are living in the past. Screw this job. KEEP YOUR WAR STORIES

6/13/2011 02:50:00 AM

Yeah, I agree. I'm not interested in anyone's war stories. Those days are long over. The only war stories you're going to hear now is "I got 6 event numbers last night and we did a quality of life and seat belt mission." Somehow, war stories just seem irrelevant considering what this department has turned into. Keep the war stories and spend your time on something more constructive because those war stories don't matter anymore.

6/13/2011 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Westside do nothing. I originally hail from 020 in 1980 and yes I do have some stories to tell. Stories of shit you never saw in 011 and wouldn't believe with your own eyes. But I wouldn't bother to share them with the likes of you.

6/13/2011 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Long Live the "Wild Bunch". From an era when bosses were bosses...

6/13/2011 11:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No war stories from this KMA vet,want my story OK in summary,paper filled out,under a tree reading newspaper and novel, gas,car wash,personals back coppers up when needed protect police and families go home. No signed complaint no arrest sorry to close to a possible pension (Hello mike shields you still there), sorry GMush not risking anything due to the machismo exhibited,to many coppers unjustly fired and put in prison like BILLY COZZI! How many are at call back? Release the pow's and put them on the streets or are you scared by rahmob? Yea ok thought so carry on!

6/13/2011 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

War stories: Why make us all jealous. We cant have any fun on this job anymore, bosses make that impossible. God forbid we do. Its either a law suit, a cr or 30 days pending. Brothers in blue! Whatever. If you think any of these officers today would put their job on the line to back another officer up you are living in the past. Screw this job. KEEP YOUR WAR STORIES

Hair gel speaks...
Bosses? why blame bosses? if you choose to still do police work, it is on you, nobody is telling you not to. If you do, be rightious, be mindful of cameras everywhere, and do tight paper. You can't stop lawsuits, although they are filing less and less, due to the city finally fighting them, but you can be professional, forthright, and take pride in what you do. Supervisors don't get us sued, asshole defendants and greedy lawyers do.
I should know, 8 lawsuits and counting, never lost a dime, never found to blame, made a ton in ot.. Don't sweat what you can't control..

6/13/2011 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sadly, the new generation of hair gel police don't want to hear the old timers war stories. They think they know what they are doing and look down upon those who try to give them advice for their own good. Remember, they should have already been promoted as soon as they finished their probation, at least in their own minds. When I came out of the academy in the late 70's the old timers were highly respected and you felt good if they even talked to you.

6/13/2011 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont forget Sam Joseph of the decoy unit. He would go out acting like a drunk, he would then get mugged and defend himself and make the arrest Took alot of balls

6/13/2011 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Had my dad and his buddies from 19 tact around when growing up that sparked my intrest [RIP Richie] back in the 80ties and i got my shot back in 96 when i came on and parred my way to 011 ...coming up on 15years there, the stories?better left alone,wink

6/13/2011 02:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WestSide.......Old 020 had the best tales ever told on this job, and funny.....and fun! 5 deep at "Reggie's" and Uptown was wide open.

All ended over 20 years ago.

Days are long gone from this job. Nobody tells any tales anymore worth hearing.

6/13/2011 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody out there remember the Slammer on Belmont? Now that was a fun bar.

6/13/2011 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got 20 years on. All of'em in 011. Of all the war stories i could tell, the best and most memorable one to me will forever be Bulls Championship Riot 92. All I'll say is we kicked much ass that night. I remember coming home the next morning and dropping from exhaustion. The wife thought I was sick or injured. I've never been so proud to be a member of this department as I was that night. The bonding of the brotherhood of Blue was something to behold. Copper from 010 came over to assist 10-1's in 011, and we returned the favor in kind. Then we hear that 015 is going up. Coppers from 010, 011, SOS and God knows where go flyin down Madison to 015. In perfect harmony, when we got to where our brothers were in distress, we jumped out doled out ass-kickings for the ages. There were shitbirds sprawled out, all over Madison St. It was fuckin great!
Sadly, as someone has already said, we could never do that today. Damned shame.
To all of you who were out there for the Bulls Riots, I'm proud to have been there with you.

6/13/2011 06:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Mistake across the street from the old 010th district,you did'nt even have to move your car from the parking lot.One of the finest copper bars in the city,and I've been to quite a few of them,

6/13/2011 08:45:00 PM  
Anonymous 4001 W. Fillmore St. said...

Bulls "riots", 6:34 PM???

Check out the most tumultuous times and location in the history of the CPD: the Old Fillmo' RIOTS (the CFD hook and ladder at Wilcox and Pulaski and the greatest one of them all: the MLK RIOT OF April 5-8, 1968.

We didn't think we'd survive that weekend. We did and then some. Looking back, what a fucking blast.

6/13/2011 10:01:00 PM  
Anonymous West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...

To 10:47 AM - I don't need to hear nor care about your war stories. You haven't clue the first about the "likes of me" or what I've seen with my own eyes, but thanks for responding nonetheless. I do need to clarify my earlier submission, though.

I omitted the word "current" when referring to guys from 020 telling war stories; the word "ranger" should've tipped you off. If you indeed roamed 020 in 1980, good for you. It still paled in comparison to the mean streets of 015 in 1986, just my humble opinion. I was simply referencing new guys telling stories of shit they haven't done or seen yet, that's all. Nothing personal aimed at you, "Mr. Star & Two Bars".

To 4:29 PM - Amen, brother. There's not many around to tell stories worth listening to. I spent a good portion of my pre-CPD days running around 020, and I can dig out old bond slips and movers to prove it! And there's no doubt in my mind that each district has seen some shit Hollyweird producers could make movies out of, just in different contexts and topics.

Stay safe. And to 10:47 AM, you're good in my book, pal. You personify everything my mind conjures-up when I hear "salty old fucker".

6/13/2011 10:04:00 PM  
Blogger Kemp said...

When I came out of the academy in the late 70's the old timers were highly respected and you felt good if they even talked to you.


My FTO was a 70's PO. Once, during my 8 week training period, I walked over to where he and a group of other crusty old vets were holding court. For some reason, I decided to offer my two cents on whatever it was they were discussing. My FTO looked me dead in the eye and told me to "Sit down and shut the fuck up until I call you, ppo!" The other vets just glared at me. Lesson learned. I never stuck my nose in vet business again. Those were the days. If an FTO did that today, the ppo would probably go bitching to the Commander and get a cr #.

6/13/2011 10:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember the case report about a were wolf on Foster Avenue beach I think from the late 70's or the Insane Fish?

6/13/2011 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Definition of the "Real Police".
PO who make makes it to the finish line (retirement) in one piece with his health, freedom, and pension intact. Any questions?

6/13/2011 09:48:00 AM

No, that's the definition of every clout-baby who's been coddled and carried throughout their 'career, and I do use the term loosely.

Me, I've got the bad knee and the bad back, courtesy of a few too many fences gone over and too many years carrying everything on God's green earth on that damned belt.

6/13/2011 11:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hair gel speaks...
Bosses? why blame bosses? if you choose to still do police work, it is on you, nobody is telling you not to. If you do, be rightious, be mindful of cameras everywhere, and do tight paper. You can't stop lawsuits, although they are filing less and less, due to the city finally fighting them, but you can be professional, forthright, and take pride in what you do. Supervisors don't get us sued, asshole defendants and greedy lawyers do.
I should know, 8 lawsuits and counting, never lost a dime, never found to blame, made a ton in ot.. Don't sweat what you can't control..

6/13/2011 12:30:00 PM

I beg to differ because I've seen plenty of supervisors do dumb shit that got everyone on scene sued. You're right that you can't stop lawsuits but I can sure control keeping them to a minimum. If you've been sued 8 times you're doing something wrong because that's just plain excessive for anyone. Also, I think the original poster meant that the bosses don't have anyone's back anymore so doing police work is even more risky than ever because these bosses will sell you down the river. I'm glad you never lost a dime on any of your 8 lawsuits but that doesn't make you an expert, it makes you lucky.

6/14/2011 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the bustouts out here speak derisively about the ubiquitous "two year wonders" I can only imagine that you are not speaking about Dolfyn, Doyle, O'Connor, Valadez, Camp, Lee, and so many more policemen who in their short careers did a thousand times the work you mutts ever did during your worthless "twenty-nine-and-a day" tenures. When I came on I worked with seasoned veterans who couldn't think there way out of their hats, stole anything that wasn't nailed down, took up with the first tramp who gave them the time of day and subsequently mother-fucked the wife who tossed them out on their asses. Rather than have thirty-years experience, they had one year experience-thirty times over! Tonight I'll go out with a small team of young policemen, and policewomen, who will work harder during a single tour than most of you ever did. And if any of them appear at roll call using hair gel they'll be directed to wash it out...

Happy in 013

6/14/2011 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember the case report about a were wolf on Foster Avenue beach I think from the late 70's or the Insane Fish?

6/13/2011 10:48:00 PM


What exactly is a were wolf?

6/14/2011 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG! What memories! " Gloves " Davis.
As I recall the story, Gloves would pinch you, and if you asked for a break, he would start putting on his gloves, hench the nickname " Gloves ", and tell you " you kick my ass, you walk, I kick your ass, you go to jail ". His reputation preceding him, many a bad guy would say " fuck it, just lock me up ". I heard this over 35 years ago, so my memory may be a little rusty.
The " Slammer ", the bar floor tilted so much it felt like walking up stairs.
The " Buck 80 ", right next to the old Shakespeare, 2138 N. California. It would open early enough so that the midnight guys could stop & grab a couple of cold ones.
" Shot & a beer " elixir of the gods.
After 5 or 7 of those, you felt like you could eat nails & shit razors.
" Ball bustin', I knew guys that made it an art form, wifes, girlfriends, partners, nothing was sacred.
MEMORIES.

6/14/2011 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

too many years carrying everything on God's green earth on that damned belt.

6/13/2011 11:31:00 PM

I feel your pain,started out carrying .38 with 2 drop pouches,a 1911 Colt .45 with 2 magazines,the old radio that was the size of a cigarette carton,nitestick,and a 5 D-cell maglite.My back still reminds me of those days every now and then.Stay safe and back each other up.

Old guy happily retired.

6/14/2011 11:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Mistake across the street from the old 010th district,you did'nt even have to move your car from the parking lot.One of the finest copper bars in the city,and I've been to quite a few of them,

6/13/2011 08:45:00 PM

And who served up the drinks ? Bea the bartender ?

6/14/2011 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And if any of them appear at roll call using hair gel they'll be directed to wash it out...

Why is hair gel against the department directives?

6/14/2011 05:25:00 PM  

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