Charges Dropped?
What the hell is this?
Attempted murder charges were dropped Tuesday by Cook County prosecutors against a 27-year-old man charged last month with wounding two Chicago police officers in a shootout in a West Side alley.
A gun that matched the description and caliber of the weapon used in the shooting was found in an abandoned home a few doors away from Jones’ home, authorities had said after his arrest.
The charges fell through even through the two officers, [...], had identified Daniel Jones as the gunman in police lineups.
Prosecutors were vague in explaining why the charges against Jones were dropped, but a law-enforcement source said a new witness and physical evidence excluded Jones as the gunman.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
93 Comments:
I am not a cop, but I gotta say this to you guys, they pull a gun, empty it in them, SHOOT TOO KILL
They throw them OFF THE back of THE BOAT faster than we CAN catch em!
Y TRY?
Probably not smart to make comments when you don't know what's going on
What?
Who is the Savage's Clout? After the Daley & Vanecko scandal with regards to the Koschmann homicide anything is possible!
You win judge. I promise...no cases in yours...or any judges court.
Sorry...I blamed a judge. Natural reaction. Hey, state's attorney...is he a cousin?
Starting the 18 6 more po's taken for posts with the government security detail aka the mayors detail to sit at his house and the command post I thought the mayor wanted more police on the streets, smoke and mirrors I think they have enough guys making Sgt pay to cover these post but god forbid they do anything , shows another merit commander don't know how to use his people. I think we need a open post on this waste of manpower the new mayor has more officers assigned to him now then Daley but has less people in his family to drive around.
Why bother?
No one goes to bat for us anymore. It has become political suicide to help or even say you like the police.
1st and the 16th are the only things that matter anymore.
it took 70 hrs and a complete recanvass of a crime scene the following day to approve charges for a shit head who fired off a round at the police in 008. When asked what the problem was, ASA's said "when Chicago Police stop lying, we will approve charges". And apparently, that came straight from the top.
WTF?????????
What kind of lawyers do we have working in the Cook County SA's office?
This is a terrible event. I am at a loss for words.
the contact cards will ultimately solve this one--- seriously, didn't both officers identify offender as shooter--- must not be good enough anymore....
Shooting straight helps too.
Jones wasn't the shooter it was his
" doppelganger " according to the
new witness and evidence so we had to drop the charges according to the State's Attorney Office.
This is one of the biggest crocks
of s*it that that group has put forth to date. Whose side are they on ?
You can bet your last money that
Jones wasn't singing in some reverent's church choir.
Simple--numerous witnesses who swear the scumbag was home at the time knitting baby booties.
Can you start naming these judges and State's atty that keep releasing these people.
We don't know the details! Let's get some information before passing judgement... I doubt very seriously that some ordinary guy on the Westside streets has ANY connection that would get him off attempted murder of the police charges. WAIT FOR THE DETAILS!!!
Cases like this should not go to court. They should go to the MEs office.
There's a lot more to the story. Details to follow. Not to worry.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You win judge. I promise...no cases in yours...or any judges court.
8/17/2011 04:24:00 AM
I'm with you. But that day will never come. Do you know why? Because we don't stick together. Too many of us are too interested only in our own personal interest and not in our collective interest. Imagine how powerful we would be if we stood together?
Papers need to go back and look. More P.O are being detailed to guard Daley house than before. Now using P.O that aren't assigned to be bodyguards just detail officers there everyday. It's all smoke and mirrors but mcjersey says it's all legit. He gott steamrolled by the crook co machine he thought he was in charge way to do your research mcjersey.
did rahm remove the daley body guards yet ? why are private citizens receiving 24 hr police protection when our children are being shot down on the streets.
I don't know why anyone with a brain would want to work for this City anymore. I'm afraid to see what the next class of recruits looks like.
****PT WORK?****
Really looking for some part time. Just to bring in a few extra dollars. FOP website wasn't a big help. Anyone know of anything?
Thanks.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Starting the 18 6 more po's taken for posts with the government security detail aka the mayors detail to sit at his house and the command post I thought the mayor wanted more police on the streets, smoke and mirrors I think they have enough guys making Sgt pay to cover these post but god forbid they do anything , shows another merit commander don't know how to use his people. I think we need a open post on this waste of manpower the new mayor has more officers assigned to him now then Daley but has less people in his family to drive around.
8/17/2011 05:33:00 AM
Which commander? The 1 assigned to rahm, or the 1 assigned to daley different description same commanders pay!
Want to see what the MSM is hiding from you about the Mexican border? Go to borderlandbeat.com, today, wednesday. Dead cops all over the place. Same thing here soon if they get that amnesty.
Chuck said...
I am not a cop, but I gotta say this to you guys, they pull a gun, empty it in them, SHOOT TOO KILL
8/17/2011 12:48:00 AM
rite, chute too kill, emptee the pistel in them, they put one of yours in the hospital, you put one of theres in the morgue.
PS, I want a copy of Mrs McGuffies reader for Christmas.
Why bother?
No one goes to bat for us anymore. It has become political suicide to help or even say you like the police.
1st and the 16th are the only things that matter anymore.
8/17/2011 05:43:00 AM
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My thoughts exactly. No one's going to bat for us; they're not even stepping into the ballpark either.
http://iphone.chicagorealestatedaily.com/#_home
Crain's story on bank suing for bad loans made to Venecko. Venecko also pumped city pension money into the same deal. Deal includes other usual suspects as well.
Probably not smart to make comments when you don't know what's going on
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I agree to a certain degree, but why approve charges in the first place? Did felony review not dot all their I's and cross all their T's? Unreal!!
WTF!!!
This is terrible:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2026854/Pictured-Jeremy-Henwood-buys-child-McDonalds-meal-shot-dead.html
San Diego lost a good officer to a senseless animal. Please be careful out there.
-also not a cop
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In this instance it's best to wait and see how the whole situation develops before we start commenting on this, trust me there is more to this than it appears.
anita what say you? How much you make at the fundraiser at eddie burkes house that he had for you? let me understand fundraiser,he runs a law firm,your the states attorney naw no collusion there girl? Shit rahm,susie (I want a police detail) mendoza oh oh is that where the 6 new security specialists will be placed? Secret squirrel wants to know!
OT: 16 district tact Lt.who is acting WC would not sign a firearm purchase form for a PO from another district on the grounds that "I don't know you." even though the PO presented a valid cpd, and foid card. Under this logic, if an outside unit comes in with an arrest. Will he also not approve the arrest since, he won't know them either? Bird brain bosses, who were never the police. Some leadership.
Maybe a bunch of Revruns said he was with them a prayin for more free shit from honest working taxpayers. Maybe Jesse Jackson was gonna load up a bus of non working public aid recipients to march on city hall. Maybe the States Attorney's Office changed their minds and said they can't win the case and cut their losses sooner due to the fucked up jury pool that hates the Police. Maybe getting shot at and hit is just part of the JOB and no one should be held accountable??? Whatever it really is...is fucked up. Be Careful Out There...Fuck these shitheads.
OT--
City has to hire 111 black applicants for fire dept. Total damages to be paid out to 'victims' of a discriminatory 1995 entrance test will cost taxpayers between 40-50 million dollars.
WTF?
RE: the damages to blacks not hired by the fire dept--why not hold those who put together the test and those who approved it accountable? Punitive damages!!!
Probably not smart to make comments when you don't know what's going on
8/17/2011 01:05:00 AM
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Since you're so smart, let us dummies know in a round about way what is going on.
Hey Matt Tobias... If you get A3 Congrats.. Then get rid of the stupid gang enforcement lt... Waldera.. This guy couldn't find dope in a pharmacy let alone know what a gang anger looks like...all this turd ever talks about is gloom and doom!! And the lies are getting old..the same stupid stories over and over...the guys paranoid!
8/17/2011 04:29:00 AM
Also the guy with red hair what a clown get rig of that goof. Bosting about locking up a drinker. Try locking up a criminal for some real crime and stop hanging on Clark st
O.T.:
I'm hearing more Commander changes coming this week,possibly even today.
Leave this one alone boys and girls. It will all work out. The facts are not out...yet. Everything is fine, this is only a bump in the road, not a sink hole. Don't rush to judgement or to blame. Stay the course- leave the comments to continued well wishes to the officers, good work to all those involved including the ASAs and wait for the events to unfold.
WTF???
OT-Hey SCC, I get so depressed reading all this crap. A while ago you linked to a blog written by a retired Chicago copper who was writing about how things used to be and the good things police officers do everyday. Can you link us to that blog again? Thanks.
Remember Anita Alvarez and the rest of her beloved Democrats when election times rolls about...
OT:
9/11 first responders left out of 10th-anniversary event
Wow! Nothing left to say
Lets remove all of the hidden detective spots ! We are short in Area 4.
If you want to hide, fine, but not at the expense of all of us.
Cool! The 111 new hires can replace the 54 from the fire prevention bureau that didn't receive training on how to fill out a travel sheet.
Whose side are they on ?
8/17/2011 07:42:00 AM
NOT THE POLICE OFFICER'S... never have been, never will be...
>>>Imagine how powerful we would be if we stood together?
8/17/2011 08:48:00 AM<<<
RIGHT! Who's vote is Anita Alverez courting?
Cops, only 25% or less if that much of cops and there households vote and if they do don't vote for her and the Rahmster.
Any gangbanger can be made to vote many times on Election Day. The Democrats would veto any attempt to enforce any real identity or citizenship check on voters in this state and especially this county.
Stay safe, Remember This Outrage, Register and Vote!
OT-Hey SCC, I get so depressed reading all this crap. A while ago you linked to a blog written by a retired Chicago copper who was writing about how things used to be and the good things police officers do everyday. Can you link us to that blog again? Thanks.
8/17/2011 02:24:00 PM
http://jimpadar.wordpress.com/
O/T....Any truth to the rumor that there is major rumblings on the 025th Dist 1st watch??
I hear multiple grievances are about to filed. Why is Velez treating his people like shit?
Limit of 5 poeple off per night even though there are so many people on that watch ther are not enuf radios to go arounfd and some people are being detailed to cover 016 because they are so short over there. 25 mans extra beats every night like 2516 2526 2536 2549 2506a 2596b etc. and still he denys time to the troops!!! Why??
Why would this SOB do something like this? Oh, yeah....I know why...He has never worked patrol in his career. He has always been givern every good spot in this department. Narcotics, Detecive Division merit promotion after merit promotion all the way....USELESS PRICK
Take a look at:
http://home.cod.edu/newsEvents/newsDetails.aspx?Channel=%2fChannels%2fAdmissions+and+Campus+Wide&WorkflowItemID=f9f3410c-bac3-45fe-864a-e47b72e5cbf8
And we do what with city colleges? City colleges do offer Marxist critques of the CPD.
Sad...suburbs are light years ahead. Better (dedicated) trainers rather than political hacks and the seriousness of large scale as well as low scale attacks.
****PT WORK?****
Really looking for some part time. Just to bring in a few extra dollars. FOP website wasn't a big help. Anyone know of anything?
Thanks.
8/17/2011 09:16:00 AM
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Get real. NO ONE is going to post this info on the public blog.
Ask around your unit.
OT: 16 district tact Lt.who is acting WC would not sign a firearm purchase form for a PO from another district on the grounds that "I don't know you." even though the PO presented a valid cpd, and foid card. Under this logic, if an outside unit comes in with an arrest. Will he also not approve the arrest since, he won't know them either? Bird brain bosses, who were never the police. Some leadership.
That old gas-bag should have retired years ago. Makes everyone in the Tact office miserable. All the good sgt's left or were dumped years ago because they refused to cover for his "dollies" who did what they wanted, refused to work details, etc. He must have some big juice to survived through so many commanders.
y do these savages gets so much service.. these people really put the constitution to the test..
Anonymous said...
OT: 16 district tact Lt.who is acting WC would not sign a firearm purchase form for a PO from another district on the grounds that "I don't know you." even though the PO presented a valid cpd, and foid card. Under this logic, if an outside unit comes in with an arrest. Will he also not approve the arrest since, he won't know them either? Bird brain bosses, who were never the police. Some leadership.
8/17/2011 11:47:00 AM
I would be a little suspicious myself of a person walking into a station asking for such a signature.....why can't he get his own boss to sign it, or maybe just wait the 3 days? There are a lot of people on this job who shouldn't be on this job, or any job for that matter.
So if I get a CR against me and another PO comes forth as a witness on my behalf the CR ends right there?
The only one that should be getting a guard detail is Rahm. Daley is a citizen, an ex-mayor, NOT a former POTUS. Burke is a joke. Stop this nonsense. These arrogant guys have to get over themselves. If they are in fear, hire your own guards through the politically-connected Monterray. rant over.
just goes to show you nobody cares for the police anymore yet we keep on working for less n lesss not just pay but support from our citizens abd bosses when ur time is up all the good u ever did not mean shit/ we serve n protect everyday but they just keeep trying to fuck us over w bull shit rules n regulations did u know that u can verer say derogatory things at a person or swear on or off duty what other profession has this rule its like u can never be intoxicated on or off duty somethings have to change we are governed by to much we are treated like second class citizens prisoners at county have more rights then we do they have a right to a fair n speedy trial while this dept and IPRA can take yrs to act and usually do i know first hand having given most of my life to police work since 1980 but i loved my job and did it well with little or no complaints on duty just alot of bullshit from an exwife during a bad divorce which im sure was no worse then what the restb of u have gone thru thanks again
The corruption is wide spread.
Listen very carefully to professor William Black in the second half of this interview.
I know that the first half of the interview will come off as some liberal justification for criminal activity for some, and you may be tempted to blow it off, HOWEVER, fast forward to the second half if you must and please listen to professor Black.
Prof. William Black is not some nut case. Google his profile on wiki if you don't know who he is or what he's done.
SORRY rookie....you are showing your lack of time and knowledge. CCG was made for Tommy Byrne, by Tommy Byrne. TB back-doored the department and had this invented. maurer went insane
8/17/2011 04:56:00 AM
yes, i believe u are right. t byrne went straight to the mayor on this and daley signed off on it. you rarely saw tommy byrne's face cause it was so far up daley's ass they had to call CFD squad 1 and a CTA wrecker to pull him out.
there is a spot on yahoo about who is the top 10 worst celebrity tippers. after reading the list i asked myself what they all had in common and the answer was simple: ALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATS.......
Just a reminder that the only people we can rely on are each other.
I know it's not true with all 016 dist. coppers but when you call for help some of these guys treat you like your the one with the I.R. number. Take care of your own.
Really looking for some part time. Just to bring in a few extra dollars. FOP website wasn't a big help. Anyone know of anything?
Thanks.
get in line kid
Probably not smart to make comments when you don't know what's going on
8/17/2011 01:05:00 AM
Which is why you have so many "geniuses" posting anonymously. Do you really think if this was a bad decision that the Detectives in Area 4 would be so quiet?
Hey super cops, go back to bitching about other things you don't know about or don't like. But wait for this one to play out. Let the cops handling the case do their job.
"They throw them OFF THE back of THE BOAT faster than we CAN catch em!"
--8/17/2011 12:58:00 AM
Uh, yeah, uh, shooting tonight 025, 4162 W. Grand, north alley, victim 21-year old male "Hispanic" taken to County.
Suspects two young male "Hispanics," both "chubby, white T-shirts."
...and there you have it.
The system is broken and filled with corruption from the top on down.
As law enforcement folks we should know that there is often more to a story than can be publicly disclosed, especially if an investigation is in progress.
That said, I sure hope the ASA's met with the victims and discussed the rationale for dropping the charges. If not, shame on them. And eventually Alvarez needs to explain this one to the voters.
I'll cut them a little slack because I think if they got the wrong guys then it does us no good to give up on finding and nailing the right ones. But this wheelgunner's patience is not unlimited.
I would be a little suspicious myself of a person walking into a station asking for such a signature.....why can't he get his own boss to sign it, or maybe just wait the 3 days? There are a lot of people on this job who shouldn't be on this job, or any job for that matter.
8/17/2011 05:45:00 PM
Finally someone with some sense... I wouldn't sign one of those for a copper I couldn't vouch for.
too the w/c in 016 that wouldnt sign the gun form...all you are signing off on is that the person is a sworn officer ..its just a certifying statement. loser. learn your job "Boss". what, you couldn't determine if the p.o. was a CPD cop.?
there is a spot on yahoo about who is the top 10 worst celebrity tippers. after reading the list i asked myself what they all had in common and the answer was simple: ALL LIBERAL DEMOCRATS.......
...and does that surprise you? Not me in the least.
Because liberals only feel generosity and compassion when they are spending OTHER PEOPLES' MONEY!!!!
Tipping money comes out of their own pocket!!What do you expect??
Come on, man--get real.
"City has to hire 111 black applicants for fire dept. Total damages to be paid out to 'victims' of a discriminatory 1995 entrance test will cost taxpayers between 40-50 million dollars."
Mayor in 1995 Runt Daley. The City will go broke paying out all the lawsuits genrating by this Outfit Morons unholy reign of incompetence, malfeasance & outright stupidity
"I hear multiple grievances are about to filed. Why is Velez treating his people like shit?"
Not sure, but Señor Velez makes a mean Mojito.
Probably not smart to make comments when you don't know what's going on
8/17/2011 01:05:00 AM
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That's kind of the way I see it too.
RE: the damages to blacks not hired by the fire dept--why not hold those who put together the test and those who approved it accountable? Punitive damages!!!
8/17/2011 12:09:00 PM
I would love to do that.But if i remember right it was 4 black college professors that made up the test for police and fire.I think the city spent 2 million so it would be fair to everyone and the dem still fuck up.DAley even said they should have studied harder.But the rev s got mad and daley just shut up.More entitlement bull at tax payers expense.
I would be a little suspicious myself of a person walking into a station asking for such a signature.....why can't he get his own boss to sign it, or maybe just wait the 3 days? There are a lot of people on this job who shouldn't be on this job, or any job for that matter.
8/17/2011 05:45:00 PM
Finally someone with some sense... I wouldn't sign one of those for a copper I couldn't vouch for.
8/17/2011 11:12:00 PM
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Read the form. The WC is not vouching for the person. The form is a verification that the person is a chicago police officer employed by the city of chicago, not that they are a good guy or not a psycho.
The PO had his ID, star, and FOID card. Why is that not enough?? Did he need to provide a resume and recommendations too?
The WC is a stroke for not signing that.
Why aren't officers picketing Alvarez's house in River Forest? Time for same "political action tactics" that reverends and community activists use. Stage a protest, call the media, maintain your cool and stay on message. Comments on a blog site or insufficient.
Can someone explain the plain white t-shirt look now worn by most black low-income men? It's so commonplace that it seems to be a political statement. I'm assuming the new fashion is to make descriptions more difficult, though I've noticed many media outlets are now identifying supposed race of crime perpretators.
Anonymous said...
OT: 16 district tact Lt.who is acting WC would not sign a firearm purchase form for a PO from another district on the grounds that "I don't know you." even though the PO presented a valid cpd, and foid card. Under this logic, if an outside unit comes in with an arrest. Will he also not approve the arrest since, he won't know them either? Bird brain bosses, who were never the police. Some leadership.
That old gas-bag should have retired years ago. Makes everyone in the Tact office miserable. All the good sgt's left or were dumped years ago because they refused to cover for his "dollies" who did what they wanted, refused to work details, etc. He must have some big juice to survived through so many commanders.
8/17/2011 05:40:00 PM
Yeah, you're still pissed because the Lt. dumped you. How do you get dumped from 16's tact. team? By being more of a dog than the rest of them. And now you beat up the Lt. who saw through your bull shit. Nice.
Anonymous said...
Really looking for some part time. Just to bring in a few extra dollars. FOP website wasn't a big help. Anyone know of anything?
Thanks.
get in line kid
8/17/2011 08:46:00 PM
Not a cop.
Saw this on Craiglist. $20/hr PT at a jewelry store on Oak Street. Active LEO's only.
http://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/sec/2552090604.html
Write him an ANOV and move on. Watch your COMSTAT numbers. There's other stuff to be dealing with. And if you guys weren't wearing those black vest covers in the first place this never would have happened.
- Supr. GMac
Anonymous said...
SORRY rookie....you are showing your lack of time and knowledge. CCG was made for Tommy Byrne, by Tommy Byrne. TB back-doored the department and had this invented. maurer went insane
8/17/2011 04:56:00 AM
yes, i believe u are right. t byrne went straight to the mayor on this and daley signed off on it. you rarely saw tommy byrne's face cause it was so far up daley's ass they had to call CFD squad 1 and a CTA wrecker to pull him out.
8/17/2011 06:56:00 PM
All of the above 100% accurate with this caveat. Even then Supt. Terry Hillard wasn't aware of this self-promoted command change until he was ordered by Da' Mare to put it into effect.
It is the way of todya's thinking for the politicians and the judges. reward the jagoffs and punish the good guy. But don't forget the G8 and NATO is coming, paybacks are a bitch. When the jagoffs want to cross the line and crash the summit, just remember they get rewarded, look the other way and then just say oh I didn't see them. Sorry. That could be fun
>>>Anonymous said...
I would be a little suspicious myself of a person walking into a station asking for such a signature.....why can't he get his own boss to sign it, or maybe just wait the 3 days? There are a lot of people on this job who shouldn't be on this job, or any job for that matter.
8/17/2011 05:45:00 PM
Finally someone with some sense... I wouldn't sign one of those for a copper I couldn't vouch for.
8/17/2011 11:12:00 PM<<<
As long as the Officer is Full Duty and not on a Domestic Can't Have a Gun Bond or something like that. (Even though the purchase forms ask those questions.) It just may be a matter of convenience, but you are asking the Boss to take a chance.
SPECIAL EMPLOYMENT requests should go through their own Watch Commanders as some of them have productivity requirements.
TRAINING REQUESTS should go through their own Watch Commanders as that may have scheduling issues.
Stay Safe, it is always better to do things with your own Boss.
too the w/c in 016 that wouldnt sign the gun form...all you are signing off on is that the person is a sworn officer ..its just a certifying statement. loser. learn your job "Boss". what, you couldn't determine if the p.o. was a CPD cop.?
8/18/2011 12:33:00 AM
Learn your own fuckin' job....does the form say "get any Lieutenant to sign it?" or does it say something like maybe "get your own Lieutenant to sign it?"
Whose side are they on ?
8/17/2011 07:42:00 AM
NOT THE POLICE OFFICER'S... never have been, never will be..."
Why do you say this? State's Attorney's can do their job best by working with and supporting the Police. All of those whom I know (over 21 years) do this. I have only seen two or 3 ASAs who had disdain or contempt for the Police, and they became defense attys after only a year or 2 as an ASA. That's Appeals or Traffic Court.
I would be a little suspicious myself of a person walking into a station asking for such a signature.....why can't he get his own boss to sign it, or maybe just wait the 3 days? There are a lot of people on this job who shouldn't be on this job, or any job for that matter.
8/17/2011 05:45:00 PM
Finally someone with some sense... I wouldn't sign one of those for a copper I couldn't vouch for.
8/17/2011 11:12:00 PM
Really?? Here's a hypothetical situation on why he tried to have someone else sign it. Copper lives in 016 and works far south. Maybe he's on midnights, even afternoons for that matter and it's his RDO. He wants to go buy a gun but forgot to have his W/C sign it on his Friday. So instead of driving completely across the city to have it signed in his district and then all the way back and then to wherever he's buying it from he goes to the District he lives in to save about 2 hours of travel time. Is that so wrong? People need to lighten up.
With all the evidence and witnesses, this truly is bullshit. This shows that the ASA's office don't give a rats ass about us. I swear I hope I work a case where one of these jackasses is the offender. I'll make sure every news agency is present when they are led out in cuffs.
Maybe Anita went to Hawaii again and she wants on hold until she can show her compassion for the police by having him charged when she can get in front of the cameras.
Some evidence can't be ignored. If it is, the ASA's are true idiots.
too the w/c in 016 that wouldnt sign the gun form...all you are signing off on is that the person is a sworn officer ..its just a certifying statement. loser. learn your job "Boss". what, you couldn't determine if the p.o. was a CPD cop.?
8/18/2011 12:33:00 AM
WRONG!. Dumb fuck, it's a sworn statement that says hes a P.O. and that the purchase is exclusively for official use. It's not to be used for the purpose of personal purchase and to avoid the 3day waiting period.
I agree with the Lt. and I'm just a career P.O.
BTW, what that 'boss' can't determine , right away, is if that CPD cop is in good standing. It's called CYA, and apparently by all the civil suits, a lot still haven't learned that.
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