Friday, August 19, 2011

No 5B Furloughs Next Year

Someone in the comment section spotted this at the Sergeants website:
  • After meeting with the department, there will be no 5B furlough selections next year. The city is invoking its emergency operations clause for the G-8 summit that is scheduled for next May.
We looked up the word "emergency" in the dictionary:
  • A serious, unexpected, and often dangerous situation requiring immediate action.
We don't think you can define this as an "emergency" seeing as how it's about nine months away, so there's nothing "unexpected" about it. "Dangerous" might be a stretch, too, given the lack of evidence on the ground at this point (yes, we know how these things go and agree it will probably be a disaster...we're talking about the legal threshold though.) Aren't there some sort of contractual repercussions for declaring an emergency though? Especially this far in advance?

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91 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like I'll have to change my retirement date...hmmm....lets see...

8/19/2011 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would that be around the National Law Enfocement Memorial in D.C.? Soooo..no CPD there at all?

8/19/2011 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are not prepared, nor will they be, for this event given the current leadership structure in place. This will be a disaster and Rahm (never let a crisis go to waste) will have a field day with it.

8/19/2011 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't that the same time the police memorial is going on in Washington, D.C.? So family/friends aren't going to be able to make the trip to D.C. to pay their respects? We have lost so many cops in the past 2 years! I hope they at least give time due to P/O's that want to go to the memorial ceremony.

8/19/2011 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

haha so happy i got dumped to 005...5b is all me!!!!!

8/19/2011 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think I'm going to plan my foot surgery around this time.

8/19/2011 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...

Hair Gels rejoice!!!!

The silver lining in this cloud is that you'll have a better shot at a more desirable furlough segment as the department will probably divide the allowable 5B segment percentage (4%)* amongst the other segments.

Seeing that manpower is at an all time low, there's a good chance that some of you 5 year wonders may actually crack a 3B/4A split in 2012.

Enjoy that!!!

* If the math isn't quite adding up in your head, don't fret - consult with some salty old dog in your district for an explanation.

8/19/2011 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When you bring in outsiders to run the show, Contracts are just paper.
Case in point: The Supt. at his meeting with Tac Lts. acknowledged that he had not read the Contract!

8/19/2011 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just in case they send me to a another protest,,,, i will say it again, I still don't have a gas mask!!!!!

8/19/2011 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we need a referendum that we don't want it here cause we can't afford it!

8/19/2011 01:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

G8 / NATO Summit: 15-22 May 2012.

National Police Week:
12-17 May 2012.

Guess no one from Chicago will be going to Washington D.C. next year to honor our fallen!

8/19/2011 03:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PO withmilitary connections already being sent for NATO training

8/19/2011 03:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And what will we hear from the FOP?

--chirp--

--chirp--

--chirp-?

8/19/2011 05:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then I will have to get some sort of ailment during that time.

8/19/2011 05:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is true than what would stop the Company of cancelling furlough segments in the future for such events such as the Taste,Political Conventions, etc. when there is enough notice to plan such cancelations.

8/19/2011 06:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Would that be around the National Law Enforcement Memorial in D.C.? Soooo..no CPD there at all?

8/19/2011 12:13:00 AM

Sometimes your responsibility as a police officer at home, outweigh the ceremonies conducted elsewhere. Our honored slain officers would have understood this.

Say a prayer for them and our military whenever you feel the need to do so, EVEN next May, but realize that, like it or not, you will be needed here in Chicago, where you were hired to "serve and protect" the citizens of Chicago. Real police officers know this. Others will whine and cry and suggest a stint on the medical is appropriate. To them I say GFY! If you don't want to be the police, go find another job since you're probably not going to be worth a shit in combat, anyway.

8/19/2011 06:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's why you boys and girls get those extra checks every year. Be available for duty.

8/19/2011 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need a union with some stones. If Pres. Shields had any, he'd be announcing our march on City Hall the week of the G-8 Summit. This would be an informational picket addressing the lack of manpower, the unfunded pension and the lack of a contract. The union needs to play hardball or else we're going to get walked all over. We need to BEG for a " Forensic Audit" to highlight where the dollars were stolen that were earmarked to keep us fully staffed. Let's see what our new President is made of.

8/19/2011 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sooooo....the City is saying no 5B furloughs. Nothing in the Sergeants contract allows them to cancel days off or furloughs (even in an emergency) without paying time and a half. Nothing allows them to say you can't PICK a 5B furlough. So, pick the 5B furlough, and when they cancel your days off, get time and a half for every day you have to work it. If they refuse to allow you to pick it, grieve it immediately (in December) and have the union go through expedited arbitration and we will win the arbitration and they will have to pay you. Oh, and you still get that furlough segment at some other time after 5B. I hear Wisconsin is great in the fall.

Oh, and they have to cancel RDOs before they cancel furlough, so look for a lot of overtime in 5B kids! Check the money box!

8/19/2011 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, national media monitoring this website: has any City hosting the G-8 or NATO conferences ever declared an emergency 9 months before the emergency?

P.S. Can't Obama provide a budget for getting out of town police sent here, like they have done everywhere else these type of events have happened?

8/19/2011 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And what will FOP say to this? NOTHING!
And what will get for giving up our 5a/b. NOTHING.

WHY? because we dont stick together!

8/19/2011 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck the g8.. it only going to hurt the working family of chicago and usa.

8/19/2011 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We also have DK in charge of the training and preparation for this! We are fucked. Last time we had something like this was the TABD (and that did not bring out 8 heads of state) and we were training for that almost 12 months out and there is no word of any type of preparation in the near future. Maybe she thinks we will be fine if we just go out there and wing it...

8/19/2011 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another one of clown kirby's ideas? She is famous for not following Gen Orders or contracts.

8/19/2011 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If shoring up our pensions is not made a priority by next May, I hope Rahm/McCarthy have their mace and helmets because I and my watch WILL NOT be here.

8/19/2011 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just why in the hell did Emmanuel volunteer to have this mess in Chicago? Don't we have enough problems to deal with. How about the disruption of all our lives to dance around this useless photo op for politicians. The money it is going to cost to clean up after this yearly mess will put the city furthur in the red. Every where this conference has been there has been huge trouble. Let them take this circus somewhere else. We don't need the grief. We certainly don't need another black eye for our image.

8/19/2011 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Might be a good time to have that huge cyst removed from my arce.

8/19/2011 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Using SCC's logic (which I agree with wholeheartedly) It appears that the Sgt's Union rolled over for Rahm. Nice way to protect your membership, Chicago Police Sargents Association!

Note to FOP, as a long term member, you had better not roll over like the Sargent's Union did! If Rahm tries to pull the same shit with us you had better file a grievance and fight it. If Rahm tramples on this part of the contract, he will surly feel free to trample on other parts of the contract! So stop him now!

8/19/2011 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hows 5C looking?

8/19/2011 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The lack of planning on the part of management created an emergency on the part of patrol.

8/19/2011 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

do what the politicians do - look the other way when the protestors come. let them crash the summit. and say thats what the people wanted

8/19/2011 09:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

is this just sergeants? or everyone?

8/19/2011 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hearing that McNutty also wants to cut 6th, 7th, 8th period furlos from 7% of unit down to 3% of unit. Also hearing he wants a 5/2 schedule, and on both counts he's claiming "manpower needs" as the reason. Anyone else hear that? Can he do that? Isn't 4/2 in the contract now? Hello FOP? FOP? FOP?

8/19/2011 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mike Shields FOP president hello my good boy are you even speaking up/out anymore? Why are you so quiet? Did rahm give you more free cheese? Hows the new car? The family and friends hiring events? the new furniture? The how many hour workday? Where you been hiding? Speak up son cannot hear you! Maybe you can have Richie A. speak out on the blog as you have done in the past! What is the definition of scared? Shields?

8/19/2011 11:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone looking to retire next year, please do not work the G8!!! If you are named in a CR# you will not be able to retire until it is cleared up. Other wise you retire under investigation and that can effect your ability to lawfully carry.

8/19/2011 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you will a lot of changes in the coming year, to include the elimination of the district desk sergeants. There will just desk personnel who will report to the watch supervisor, whatever rank that might be. That way, no out of grade pay will apply for either job.

8/19/2011 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wait til the unions have their day of rage planned for Sept 17th 2011. google it yourself and find out what you're missing when you've been paying attn to american idol

8/19/2011 12:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why are we getting the G8 again?

8/19/2011 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the time for the Union to confront the City about its criminally negligent manpower issues. If the City declares May 15-22 to be an " Emergency" and furloughs are cancelled due to the lack of manpower, we should be compensated at a pay rate higher than our salary. If the budget allows for 13,500 officers and we are at 8,500 the salary of the missing 4,500 officers should be spread amongst those who are forced to go above and beyond the call of duty in the form of a class action lawsuit.. We have been asked to do so much ,with so little for so long and now we're in a bind. Everyone needs to make their furlough request for the time in question and the F.O.P. needs to do its job and get us some bodies.

8/19/2011 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess no one from Chicago will be going to Washington D.C. next year to honor our fallen!

8/19/2011 03:33:00 AM
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I guess it'll be retired CPD holding up our end this year. I've never been; looks like a good year to go.

8/19/2011 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

not to bitch but what is the fop doing for us, because i have not seen anything except for pat talking on t.v. They need to step up and explain how the contract works to this administration. If he would not have disbanded msf and tru there would be no need to cancle 5b furloughs for the rest of patrol. Talk about the lights being on and no one home.

8/19/2011 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm getting married/honeymoon during 5B next year. How am I going to explain this to my bride? Why should I have to explain this to my bride?

8/19/2011 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put in for it and have it denied. Then file a grievance and let the union and arbitrator figure it out. They don't care about you so pay them back

8/19/2011 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

They're scared shitless SCC...

Years of resolute fuckery in refusing to hire to keep pace with attrition is catching up to city hall.

They lie, spin, misdirect and deflect with the aid of the decaying alive Chicago media.

As far as Chicago media goes...

We hope to see the day you whores are boiled alive in your own excrement for looking the other way while this formerly thriving engine known as Chicago was intentionally driven off the rails by the criminal-political class...

You're just as guilty as the rotten cocksuckers who did the dirty deed. Don't deny it bitches! We saw ALL you motherfuckers laughing & running off into the woods together away from the wreckage.

The public says, "WTF?" at the sight of the wreckage... You whores shout over your shoulder without breaking stride, "Da Po-leece dunnit!"

YAAAAAHHH! You FUNKY - ASSED BASTARDS! *scraping bottom of shoe with a stick*

Deflection. Distraction. Slippery syntax, weasel words and overall just a bunch of political grease & doo-doo being spewed from the 5th floor of city hall and the executive suites of 3510

Declaring an emergency nine months in advance? O_o?

Tacit admission that they've been shitting the bull about manpower all these years?

Sheeit! Every district is DOWN 200+ coppers in authorized manpower! Ask anybody with time on the job who can count above ten without taking their shoes off.

These idiots are going through the motions, SCC.

The best they can come up with is continue to aggravate the hell out of The Beat Car Pilots because they really don't have a plan.

The organizational and political stupidity is like blue sky... From everlasting to everlasting, no matter which way you turn.

A skull on a stick can run things better... Probably give better answers at press conferences and comp-stat meetings too.

We hope and pray that it won't be Policemen paying with their lives (Well, fuck... Who are we kidding? Policemen have already been paying with their lives.) when the piper demands payment for the years of neglect, lack of foresight and lack of preparation by city hall & HQ.

8/19/2011 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"emergency" would be if we all suddenly got sick at the same time... wait, no... that would be a "coincidence"

8/19/2011 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP better do something if true. Even if you dont want or usually take a 5b this is an issue that cant be given to the city. Its not a fucking emergency if you CHOOSE to hold the event in your city

8/19/2011 04:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Supt. at his meeting with Tac Lts. acknowledged that he had not read the Contract!"

If that's true, he was thoroughly unprepared for that meeting.

"CompStat! Full Speed Ahead"("Iceberg?? What iceberg??"

8/19/2011 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's always IOD...

8/19/2011 04:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No 5B, No Problem, i'll take a 5A and hit the medical for three weeks for a much needed physical tuneup, thank you ballet boy!

8/19/2011 05:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We need a union with some stones. If Pres. Shields had any, he'd be announcing our march on City Hall the week of the G-8 Summit. This would be an informational picket addressing the lack of manpower, the unfunded pension and the lack of a contract. The union needs to play hardball or else we're going to get walked all over. We need to BEG for a " Forensic Audit" to highlight where the dollars were stolen that were earmarked to keep us fully staffed. Let's see what our new President is made of.
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BALLS in Your Court FOP: Were Watching @@

8/19/2011 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5 and 2,and the 4 and 2 r the same thing u r still working 5 days in a work week sunday to sunday. new york works 5-2, then 5-3 sweet.

8/19/2011 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hair Gels rejoice!!!!

The silver lining in this cloud is that you'll have a better shot at a more desirable furlough segment as the department will probably divide the allowable 5B segment percentage (4%)* amongst the other segments.

Seeing that manpower is at an all time low, there's a good chance that some of you 5 year wonders may actually crack a 3B/4A split in 2012.

Enjoy that!!!

* If the math isn't quite adding up in your head, don't fret - consult with some salty old dog in your district for an explanation.



You're an idiot sir. And if you had hair you would use gel too. Don't be jealous. Stay inside and do nothing. Appreciate your input and your police work. Now go ahead and input my contact cards into I clear.

8/19/2011 05:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
... we were training for that almost 12 months out and there is no word of any type of preparation ...

8/19/2011 08:34:00 AM

In lieu of actual training, realistic streaming videos to cover any circumstance are being made right now to prepare us

8/19/2011 05:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
G8 / NATO Summit: 15-22 May 2012.

National Police Week:
12-17 May 2012.

Guess no one from Chicago will be going to Washington D.C. next year to honor our fallen!

8/19/2011 03:33:00 AM

I am predicting that a select few will be allowed to represent us there (and be carried code 49)

8/19/2011 05:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"CompStat! Full Speed Ahead"("Iceberg?? What iceberg??"

the CPD ship lurches forward, iceberg (G-8 and NATO summit here in May) ahead......ship staff (exempts) move the deck chairs around, captain (McGruff) says, "hey, we'll have lots of ice for our drinks!"......hah!

8/19/2011 06:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anyone looking to retire next year, please do not work the G8!!! If you are named in a CR# you will not be able to retire until it is cleared up. Other wise you retire under investigation and that can effect your ability to lawfully carry.

8/19/2011 12:16:00 PM

STFU if you don't know what you're talking about. You cannot be prevented from retiring.

8/19/2011 07:12:00 PM  
Blogger Working Man said...

Anonymous said...
Using SCC's logic (which I agree with wholeheartedly) It appears that the Sgt's Union rolled over for Rahm. Nice way to protect your membership, Chicago Police Sargents Association!

Note to FOP, as a long term member, you had better not roll over like the Sargent's Union did! If Rahm tries to pull the same shit with us you had better file a grievance and fight it. If Rahm tramples on this part of the contract, he will surly feel free to trample on other parts of the contract! So stop him now!

8/19/2011 08:53:00 AM

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So let me get this straight. You're a "long time member of the FOP", insinuating you have a long time on the job, yet you still haven't figured out how to spell SERGEANT?!
I'm hoping you're just a troll and not really the Police!

8/19/2011 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you don't want to be the police, go find another job since you're probably not going to be worth a shit in combat, anyway.

8/19/2011 06:28:00 AM


Were you like this before or did you crack up on the job?

8/19/2011 07:42:00 PM  
Blogger Was that a SPEEDBUMP?! said...

I will tell you this about the G8/NATO event next May. We have incredibly talented Officers trying to get everything in order with regards to training. These guys and gals (PO's mind you...) want whats best for us. They create their wish list and send it up the ladder. If it doesnt come down to the PO's, don't blame the Cop's getting it together. One thing MSF did VERY well was train, and that's who's involved with this. Think about what's involved in the aquisition of a training facility, equipment, scheduling. It's a logistical nightmare.

At the very least Ladies and Gentlemen, make sure you have a very good quality vest (3A with plates is strongly suggested), a striker fired pistol (lose those Smith and Wessons, Berettas and Rugers...) and get a quality personal radio, Kenwoods last 3 days on a full charge.

If you read about London, those Cops were up for days, going to hot zones. This is the SUPERBOWL of agitators/hoodlums/anarchists!

8/19/2011 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And what will we hear from the FOP?

--chirp--

--chirp--

--chirp-?

8/19/2011 05:25:00 AM
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Hey stupid FUCK have they made any change yet, have they attempted to NO, so GO FUCK YOURSELF u dumb ass the FOP is well aware of the attempt......

8/19/2011 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the moron who said 5/2 is the same as 4/2 because you still work 5 days between Sundays, WTF are you smoking? How the fuck is a 4 day work week the same as a 5 day work week?

8/20/2011 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like the Marines. If they wanted u to have a wife/husband they would have issued u 1 at the academy

8/20/2011 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess no one from Chicago will be going to Washington D.C. next year to honor our fallen!

8/19/2011 03:33:00 AM

I am predicting that a select few will be allowed to represent us there (and be carried code 49)

___________________________________

I'm retired. I have gone before (prior to retirement), and will go in 2012. I will be in uniform. Try and stop me.

8/20/2011 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now go ahead and input my contact cards into I clear.

++++++++++++++++++++

Save yourself some effort. Just hand the input officer the pages from the phone book where you got the info.

Contact cards. You young guys think that's being a police officer. The guy doing the input was probably arresting and CONVICTING bad guys when you were in diapers.

Goof.

8/20/2011 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go back to the 10hr day.

8/20/2011 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hair Gels rejoice!!!!

The silver lining in this cloud is that you'll have a better shot at a more desirable furlough segment as the department will probably divide the allowable 5B segment percentage (4%)* amongst the other segments.

Seeing that manpower is at an all time low, there's a good chance that some of you 5 year wonders may actually crack a 3B/4A split in 2012.

Enjoy that!!!

* If the math isn't quite adding up in your head, don't fret - consult with some salty old dog in your district for an explanation.

A lot of stress in your life? Try counseling

8/20/2011 02:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Sometimes your responsibility as a police officer at home, outweigh the ceremonies conducted elsewhere. Our honored slain officers would have understood this."

"Sometimes ceremonies conducted here do not outweigh the responsibilities elsewhere."

Do you see how easy that was to make your whole statement false? I did not need to throw random commas here and there throughout my post to make it appear as tho I am being profound.I am guessing by the way you write and how similar it is to the speech patterns of the POTUS that you are either a politician or political police hack. May I suggest "Elements of Style" published by our very own University of Chicago?

The G8 and NATO summit are not my responsibility nor are they Chicago's. Here is a thought. Give these alleged leaders all Iphones and they can facetime each other with all their fascinating plans and ideas that have just been working so fabulously the past decade or two. If they were real leaders they would just postpone a week so American Law Enforcement Officers can honor their dead. But they wont. This president has blown off the National Police Memorial before. It is not like law enforcement was ever a priority with him unless someone was coming through a window near Drexel.

Between my two brothers my sister and myself, we have over a century of service as police officers in this city. My other brother has been a Marine since 1968. He is currently serving in the Middle East as a civilian. We each have our own memories of friends that have died serving this city. Their names are on the wall in Washington D.C.

You have been served.

Detective Timothy Nolan
Area One Detective Division

8/20/2011 04:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sometimes your responsibility as a police officer at home, outweigh the ceremonies conducted elsewhere. Our honored slain officers would have understood this.

Say a prayer for them and our military whenever you feel the need to do so, EVEN next May, but realize that, like it or not, you will be needed here in Chicago, where you were hired to "serve and protect" the citizens of Chicago. Real police officers know this. Others will whine and cry and suggest a stint on the medical is appropriate. To them I say GFY! If you don't want to be the police, go find another job since you're probably not going to be worth a shit in combat, anyway.

8/19/2011 06:28:00 AM

its obvious that you have never been to this ceremony in washginton dc and my guess is you have never lost a friend on this job either. going to the memorial and talking with other police officers from around the country really helped the grieving process for me. so why dont you GFY!!!!

8/20/2011 05:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why are we getting the G8 again?

8/19/2011 12:44:00 PM

because G 1-7 were already taken

8/20/2011 05:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess when I'm having my cataract removed! Oh, and the recuperation process coincides with the start of the inland trout season up north! Thanks MacMush!

8/20/2011 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wasn't the G20 held in Korea in 2010. We had better get a real Anti terrorism officer and a real Intel guy. Any mere POs/Sgts fit this bill?Thanks God the FEds will step in to make us shine. Gold Stars will make fools of themselves. Got to luv the Clout in this town. Politicals hacks in all the important jobs. A disater or terrorism will set the record straight. We are in deep shit!!!

8/20/2011 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the idiot that can't add with the 4-2 u r still working 5 days the week goes from Sunday to sunday prob some idiot from tru or msf that didn't no that

8/20/2011 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Family First Huh! F U Mcarthy

8/20/2011 08:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the pensions are underfunded because were 2,500 + short from putting into the fund. manpower issues means we're freakiing short. they need to admit that we're short, stop paper shuffling and stop lying and hire the cops we're short. seniority and furloughs is all we have on this job and they continualy fuck with that. that's fucked up.

8/20/2011 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>>Anonymous said...
Hearing that McNutty also wants to cut 6th, 7th, 8th period furlos from 7% of unit down to 3% of unit. Also hearing he wants a 5/2 schedule, and on both counts he's claiming "manpower needs" as the reason. Anyone else hear that? Can he do that? Isn't 4/2 in the contract now? Hello FOP? FOP? FOP?

8/19/2011 11:08:00 AM<<<

The 4/2 work week is a target.

If you do not want to go back to the 6/2 work week do not, repeat

DO NOT GO DOWN ON THE AIR "WAITING FOR A CAR", GO DOWN ON A CASE REPORT, WEAPONS CLEANING, SEEING THE W.C. OR ANYTHING BUT NOT DOING NOTHING WAITING FOR A CAR.

McGeneralissimo will not solve the problem by buying enough cars.

8/20/2011 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Save yourself some effort. Just hand the input officer the pages from the phone book where you got the info.

Contact cards. You young guys think that's being a police officer. The guy doing the input was probably arresting and CONVICTING bad guys when you were in diapers.

Goof.

8/20/2011 01:26:00

My fault. I stand corrected. All you guys that are salty and don't do shit anymore are the real police. Thanks for all the help. By the way its a square card, white in color. They also come in yellow and blue. Maybe if you used it properly an arrest would follow. Oh my fault, using it as a scraper for the jelly that's caked on your vest is probably the most you've done. Look in the mirror. GOOF!!!!!!!

8/20/2011 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Would that be around the National Law Enforcement Memorial in D.C.? Soooo..no CPD there at all?

8/19/2011 12:13:00 AM

Sometimes your responsibility as a police officer at home, outweigh the ceremonies conducted elsewhere. Our honored slain officers would have understood this.

Say a prayer for them and our military whenever you feel the need to do so, EVEN next May, but realize that, like it or not, you will be needed here in Chicago, where you were hired to "serve and protect" the citizens of Chicago. Real police officers know this. Others will whine and cry and suggest a stint on the medical is appropriate. To them I say GFY! If you don't want to be the police, go find another job since you're probably not going to be worth a shit in combat, anyway.

8/19/2011 06:28:00 AM

Obviously written by someone who has never attended the DC Memorial to Honor Our Fallen.

The G8 Summit was a voluntary host location with agreed upon dates controlled by Obama, et al.

Chicago has a respected reputation as the largest 'voluntary' attendance in DC during Police Week.
'Voluntary', as in... own time and funds to honor those people who didn't volunteer to make that 'ultimate sacrifice' but did so to 'serve and protect.'
They should be honored and remembered.
Go tell the (Gold Star) family surviving members that scheduling a conflicting G8 Summit is more important. Then go ask the powers to be planners why it simply couldn't be pushed back 1 day to accommodate BOTH events and you'll get some rhetorical retort similar to your initial asinine statement.
Beat it, troll!

8/20/2011 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

5 and 2,and the 4 and 2 r the same thing u r still working 5 days in a work week sunday to sunday. new york works 5-2, then 5-3 sweet.

8/19/2011 05:50:00 PM

Yeah but the only difference is Chicago PD work more than 40 hours a week and over 80 in a two week period. It sucks if they can change ours schedule at whim. Why go through a contract, just do what you want boss!

8/20/2011 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STFU if you don't know what you're talking about. You cannot be prevented from retiring.

You can't retire with an open CR, so you STFU and learn..

8/20/2011 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anyone looking to retire next year, please do not work the G8!!! If you are named in a CR# you will not be able to retire until it is cleared up. Other wise you retire under investigation and that can effect your ability to lawfully carry.

8/19/2011 12:16:00 PM

STFU if you don't know what you're talking about. You cannot be prevented from retiring.

8/19/2011 07:12:00 PM

He didn't say you could be prevented from retiring. He said you would retire with an open investigation and this would directly impact your ability to receive a concealed carry permit. This is true.

8/20/2011 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm getting married/honeymoon during 5B next year. How am I going to explain this to my bride? Why should I have to explain this to my bride?

8/19/2011 01:34:00 PM
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Take your contracts and other documentation to your commander. You'll get your time off.

Problem is, you won't see any of your police friends at your wedding. They won't be able to get time off.

This is one of those things you're not going to really win on. Even when you win, you'll miss out on sharing the day with all your friends.

8/20/2011 01:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds fair enough...CPD will make some great O.T. on that anyway.

8/20/2011 02:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm getting married/honeymoon during 5B next year. How am I going to explain this to my bride? Why should I have to explain this to my bride?

8/19/2011 01:34:00 PM
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Take your contracts and other documentation to your commander. You'll get your time off.

Problem is, you won't see any of your police friends at your wedding. They won't be able to get time off.

8/20/2011 01:52:00 PM Not a problem because I don't have any police friends(blue shirts that is)My only friend is the Commander and a few exempts. I don't think they will have a problem getting time off.

8/20/2011 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago is the only place without a Master Exercise Practitioner which is run by Homeland Security running major events.

8/20/2011 06:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The two main reasons that the pension is underfunded is that the city hasnt been putting in their share for over 20 years and that the stock market is down along with interest rates. Being short po's doesnt help, the the other two reasons are the main problem
We wont even go into the Gold Braid
All those extra made up commander spots take from the pension

8/20/2011 07:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STFU if you don't know what you're talking about. You cannot be prevented from retiring.

You can't retire with an open CR, so you STFU and learn..

8/20/2011 11:36:00 AM
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Is this a joke?

You certainly CAN retire with an open cr. They don't hold you hostage and force you to come to work.

Now, if you do retire with an open cr, the city can cripple your chances of carrying as a retiree. Not that they always do, but they can.

8/21/2011 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO: You have been served.

Detective Timothy Nolan
Area One Detective Division

8/20/2011 04:45:00 AM

You're right on, brother.
That's why I also posted a response (08/20, 10:03 a.m.)
Thanks to all that have served and sacrificed.
It appears the Nolan family is a prime example of that revered product as... "Chicago's Finest."
Simply put, Thank-You!

8/21/2011 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, Too too bad they will be adjusting manpower in the districts desks,most desks, not all do absolutely nothing, they sigh, moan and bitch when some poor citizen walks into the station needing a traffic crash report, they yell at senior citizens because they didn't have their vin number, it would be really hard to use that big ass computer and run the plate. and then they cry because they were interrupted in finsihing the magazine they were reading or chatting on phone, the females are the worst, followed by fat ass young men who are afraid of the streets, put older, limited dutiy coppers who have apid their dues on the desk. We also need W/C's with balls, not little peas to controll the lock ups and desk people, the biggest decison on desks are what's for lunch and who gets to duck early today.

8/21/2011 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh my fault, using it as a scraper for the jelly that's caked on your vest is probably the most you've done. Look in the mirror. GOOF!!!!!!!

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You are funny. Salty. Jelly on the vest. That's some funny stuff. I will admit that there have been arrests made from contact card info. But that's still not police work. Making good arrests, testifying in court, getting convictions-that's police work.

Good luck

8/22/2011 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are funny. Salty. Jelly on the vest. That's some funny stuff. I will admit that there have been arrests made from contact card info. But that's still not police work. Making good arrests, testifying in court, getting convictions-that's police work.

Good luck

8/22/2011 01:37:00 AM

You are correct. Trying to make a point here. It all adds up in some way shape or form. Make plenty of good arrests, but most bosses don't give a shit. It's where are my contacts, anovs and movers. It's a Damn shame it has come down to this nonsense.

8/22/2011 02:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anyone looking to retire next year, please do not work the G8!!! If you are named in a CR# you will not be able to retire until it is cleared up. Other wise you retire under investigation and that can effect your ability to lawfully carry.

8/19/2011 12:16:00 PM

NO, IT DOESN'T, EINSTEIN, you have to be convicted of a Crime for it to be used to block your lawful carrying of a concealed firearm IROCC Card after being retired. Get your facts straight, you stupid fuckin bullshit rumor spreading Ass-Noodle.

8/23/2011 03:08:00 PM  

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