Thursday, August 18, 2011

One Death Affects Thousands

  • Charinez Jefferson will never know she had a baby boy Tuesday.

    Her son will never know her.

    The 17-year-old mom — six months pregnant and looking forward to learning her unborn child’s sex during an ultrasound exam Thursday — didn’t live long enough.

    Gunned down by a shooter who jumped from a passing car as she walked home from a convenience store in the Marquette Park neighborhood Tuesday night, Charinez was declared dead within 45 minutes.

    Doctors at Advocate Christ Hospital in Oak Lawn couldn’t save her, but performed an emergency C-section to safely deliver her tiny son.

    The as-yet unnamed, prematurely-born boy is “fighting for his life right now,” Charinez’s mother Debbie Jefferson said Wednesday as family members mourned, searched for answers and prayed for the child and his 1-year-old big brother. The baby was in stable condition, authorities said.

Seventeen and on her second pregnancy. From all the descriptions, targeted for killing seeing as how she was shot three times in heart and once in the head. [UPDATE: And thirteen arrests!]

And now, she will affect the lives of hundreds of people. Cops mostly. Because the exempt structure will feel some need to redeploy tens of dozens of officers to saturate the area she was shot. Teams of cops will be forced to deploy in a "box" or violence zone for weeks, maybe months. Detectives will be working untold hours, missing family events and such because of an attitude that having two kids before 17 is normal and that solving a dispute with gunfire is acceptable.

Then there will be the community activists, printing up t-shirts, and the "reverends" shouting about "gun control" and Cease Fire blaming everyone except the shooter and the community, all demanding more programs and of course, more money, meaning tens of thousands of taxpayers will be affected in some manner.

Do we sound bitter? We're just sick of the nonsense and the oh-so-predicable way it's going to play out.



Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is there never a question of how a seventeen year old child is on her second pregnancy? Who's paying for these kids?

Oh, that's right. We are. And the black so called leadership is silent. The only reason they are concerned is that there's one less future democrat voter out there.


8/18/2011 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

News had video of the ghetto memorial with the bottles of Grey Goose (other station cut the bottles out of the shot). Im sure she never touched the stuff since shes been pregnant the last two years and isnt of legal age. And the interviews of how she used to be "wild" but after these babies she turned her life around.

8/18/2011 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said SCC!

8/18/2011 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A straight from the hip opinion from last weeks Crime File News blog on how Democrats have written off blacks in society and meshes somewhat with this post:

8/18/2011 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

boo who

8/18/2011 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't overlook the fact that the victim, at the ripe old age of 17, not only had one child with a second on the way, but already had double-digit arrests. Thirteen I believe.

8/18/2011 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

are you kidding 1030 at night 17yr old and pg. give me a break o i forgot a year bold to. fot gods sake stop have sex.

8/18/2011 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These are the kinds of crisis's that the city can use.

Use to create distractions from what the political elite are up to...the contracts...the kickbacks..the campaign donations. The separation of you from your money. That's what it's all about.

Ramp it up in the media and how terrible it all is.

No doubt about it -- it's awful.

Nevertheless the politicians can use it to pass out flyers, tell you that its dangerous and demand that you upgrade THEIR body guards and THEIR security detail at the taxpayers expense.

Meanwhile we can ratchet-up the martial law another notch via implementation of an even earlier curfew while using the guise of safety to do it.

Use it as a tool to take away more honest hard working peoples rights and freedoms..

Yeah..let the illegal immigrants run as they wish in the sanctuary city bringing you their culture of violence and gangs....tell us again how they ALL only want to have a better life while they bring in the contraband that is at the core of the problems..

Heh..broken windows my azz.

It's no different than the recent mortgage foreclosure saviors that are in the press... another distraction.

Our heroes eh?

I'll tell you what.

If we prosecuted the bankers responsible for this foreclosure mess as the FBI warned Washington about way back in about 2004 we wouldn't need these phoney heroes riding in on their white horses to save the day.

The bankers are laughing, flaunting the ALT-A mortgages that they themselves called liar loans and toxic assets. The bankers raked in trillions of dollars using credit default swaps and made a mockery out of the judicial system by flooding it with fraudulent rob-signed docs.

It's been going on since Clinton, all the way through the Bush years and it continues today with Obama. All of them sweeping it under the rug...or trying to. Is it any wonder that we see the same thing on a local level?

The corruption is out of control.

Now go put on the dog and pony
kabuki show for the media like it means something.


8/18/2011 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...

Scenario #1: The unborn "Baby Daddy" orchestrated the hit.

Post arrest, we'll learn that he chose this despicable route because he "wasn't ready to bear the responsibilities that accompany fatherhood"...even though he has other bastard spawn with various "Baby Mamas" sprinkled throughout the city.

The liberal media will cite his own unfortunate and tumultuous upbringing as though that's an excuse for such a heinous act. Interviews with ignorant assholes that know Baby Daddy will bolster the angle that he's also a victim in the grand scheme of things.

Scenario #2: The jealous broad that Baby Daddy started "kickin' it wit" shortly after he learned that the seed he planted in Charinez took root orchestrated the dastardly deed. She went apeshit upon being told that he was finna try and be a Daddy after his conscience temporarily got the best of him. Jealous broad, now "disrespected", calls up some of her homies to "handle bidnizz".

Such is life for the offspring of savages that smoked Newports, weed and crack like they were going out of style while pregnant; their circuitry is severely underdeveloped compliments of the hedonistic lifestyle Mom enjoyed during the pregnancy. Now add to this equation umpteen other stumbling blocks commonplace in the ghetto communities and you'll start to see just how hopeless the situation really is. Watching the decedent's mother on the news giving a matter-of-fact interview about her own child's death is indicative of just how fucked up certain segments of society really are.

You are correct in your assessment with how the rest of the story will play out, SCC. There'll be a myriad of demands, second guessing and blame going around. There'll be new programs implemented to curb such violence. If coppers are lucky, the Special Employment scraps might fall to the floor for a little while. THERE WILL BE LOTS OF MONEY NEEDLESSLY THROWN AT A PROBLEM IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT "GO AWAY".

And all of the above and then some will result in fruitless results because NO ONE will acknowledge the 800 pound gorilla in the room. Any of you newsie-types scouring this blog care to take a shot at what that might be? Maybe consult with a few of the omni-vocal pretend rev'runs for tips and clues?

When the dust settles and the cries of "justice fo' my po' baby" have silenced, it'll be B.A.U. (Business As Usual) in the big on it.

8/18/2011 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My insurance company never allowed me to have an expensive ultrasound during my two pregnancies to find out the gender of my children. That 17 year old single mom of two must have some dynamite plan. The cynic in me wonders how many hundreds of thousands of dollars are going to be spent to save this baby born 3 months prematurely...and just what kind of sad life the child will have.

8/18/2011 01:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You create your own problems so that you can play the hero in solving them while running your agenda if you're a politician right?


"Fast and Furious" Guns Tracked to More Violent Crimes in Arizona, Including Some in Phoenix and Glendale, Feds Say

Firearms linked to the scandal-ridden "Fast and Furious" investigation have turned up at 11 U.S. crime scenes, including four in Arizona, Congress was told this month.

And that's in addition to the December incident in which U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry was shot near Rio Rico.

The new information comes from a letter to Congress by the U.S. Justice Department that was recently obtained by the Los Angeles Times.

The Times also reported this week that three supervisors with the Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms bureau who oversaw the investigation, in which suspected cartel members were observed buying guns but weren't apprehended, have been promoted.

The letter states that Justice officials have learned "that ATF is aware of 11 instances" besides the Terry slaying in which the "Fast and Furious" guns "were recovered in connection with a crime of violence in the United States."


The ATF lost track of more than 1,400 guns sold to suspected cartel members in the operation. Many of the guns are believed to have been smuggled into Mexico. Angry Mexican officials said last month they wished to see U.S. officials responsible for the debacle prosecuted in their country.

full story here :

8/18/2011 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You Hit The Nail On The Head.
I'm sorry I do not Post more, but your Thinking is 99.9% RIGHT ON.
Most of the time I am in total agreement, as I am sure 90% of your readers' are also.
Unfortunately that makes for less comments.

Sorry, Avid Reader

8/18/2011 02:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shooter must have found out he aint the baby daddy.

I read these stories and try to feel bad, but for some people this is considered normal and I am confused about why they act like this? I wonder if the shooter had a gun permit?

8/18/2011 02:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Working Police said...

After Safe City is as DOA as the victim, I can't help but wonder where these troops will be deployed from.

Maybe Beat 4650 can handle it all single handedly.

This Ass-Hat is constantly on CW 1, always running his mouth on things that don't concern him.

We're all very impressed Sgt, now SFU and let us call for a transport for our rowdy arrestees, before the whole block empties out. [monday]

8/18/2011 02:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is disgusting...2nd baby at 17 years old??? Out late at night, who was watching the first kid? Hanging around a group of thugs. I'm sure my tax dollars are paying for the xtraordinary Health Care bills. This is all bullshit. Don't put yourself in a dangerous situation. Shouldn't be preganant at 17, certainly not a second time. Fuck..I'm sick and tired of all this crap. Where's the useless fuck father??? Sick and tired of taking care of them and they keep wanting and taking more. Fucking media makes her and the situation like a Noble's irresponisble living. Fuck...I'm sick and tired of all of this shit.

8/18/2011 03:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody else hit but her multiple times? Check out every sperm donor she has lain with. One will be your shooter.

8/18/2011 04:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry, but it's one less ghetto breeder with gov't entitlements handed to her from cradle to grave.

Did her mother ever work? No. Did grandmama ever work? No. Would she ever have worked? NO.

She was probably the girlfriend of a gangbanger or a gangbanger herself. This wasn't a random shooting.

8/18/2011 05:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who was she walking with? I was told the intended target another gang banger. The news conviently left that detail out. When you lie with the dogs you get fleas. By the way where is the babies father??? Another baby my tax dollars will support.

8/18/2011 06:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone asked about the where abouts of the "baby dadies"?

This looks like a hit, from a guy that didn't want to be a Daddy yet!

8/18/2011 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not too mention the hospital bills. Grandmama ain't gonna be paying for those. I'm just sayin.

8/18/2011 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Marquette park sure turned out nice, eh?

8/18/2011 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Westside, I agree with you but I think Scenario #3:Miss pregnant, who turned her life around after having her first babay, ripped off the wrong person. She owed tall money to someone. I am curious to know where in englewood she lived before they moved to marquette park aka west englewood. Lots of old lugans spinning in their graves.

8/18/2011 08:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey it's our job. Like it or not.

8/18/2011 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said, SCC. So sad; so true.

8/18/2011 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The first thing my wife and I wondered was; if you are 7 months pregnant then what the hell are you doing out late at night? For most normal and responsible people, if you are 7 months pregnant, you are going to be asleep taking care of the welfare of your baby. But not these mopes. They just don't care. It's sad. What is truly sad is that this cycle keeps repeating itself and the truly innocent ones; the little children are the ones who ultimately suffer.

8/18/2011 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

burke and daley are still protectected while our youth are gunned down like dogs
thank mayor rahm , next election

8/18/2011 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All these jags marching, the victim and her tearful friend and family would all give me the same BS if I was out there handling a shooting.

I just came out.
I didn't see shit.
I ain't talking to no police.
Etc., etc., etc.

Do you recall the outrage when the 6 year old was shot in her house Does the media know that HER NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR will not cooperate with the police

We cannot change these people. I'm tired of trying to tell a witness who knew the victim to do what is right. Fuck em. This is the society that they have chosen.

If they don't care why should I. I have absolutely no trouble sleeping.

8/18/2011 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where is the Outrage? We have come to accept this behavior as normal, therefore we give tacit approval to it. The Mortgage Bankers who gave loans they knew could not be paid back, and the Ghetto Rats who reproduce with total disregard for the results. Her infant that is now on life support at a cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars, suffered severe oxygen deprivation, so he will probably never be able to care for or support himself. What right did this woman have to do this to her offspring and society? Yet as long as politicians can continue to be assured that these people will keep them in office, the misery will continue.

8/18/2011 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read these stories and try to feel bad, but for some people this is considered normal and I am confused about why they act like this? I wonder if the shooter had a gun permit?
-----------------------------------The why is very simple...generations of government solving their problems and never being taught that they are accountable for their actions. If you never paper train your dog, you are always going to have shit on your living room floor.

8/18/2011 10:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Law and Order said...

Well said, SCC. Nobody else in the City will say it. Thank You.

8/18/2011 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"are you kidding 1030 at night 17yr old and pg. give me a break o i forgot a year bold to. fot gods sake stop have sex."

Chicago Public Schools served you well I see.

8/18/2011 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just a question, since she was only 17, a child per the media, why were they at least 6 gray goose bottles around her street light pole memorial? Can children drink on the southside?

8/18/2011 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous (sarcasm on) said...

Anonymous said...
You Hit The Nail On The Head.
I'm sorry I do not Post more, but your Thinking is 99.9% RIGHT ON...

8/18/2011 02:01:00 AM

Who are you kidding?

I read SCC all the time and I have seen your "Anonymous said..." posts on here every day, sometimes hundreds of times a day.

You post on here plenty!
(sarcasm off)

8/18/2011 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did she really have 13 arrests?

8/18/2011 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

are you kidding 1030 at night 17yr old and pg. give me a break o i forgot a year bold to. fot gods sake stop have sex.

8/18/2011 12:45:00 AM


Wye downt uyo trie spel cheeking sumtime!

8/18/2011 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ 01:26:00 AM
What kind of health insurance did you have? Either it was really bad or you're really old. Finding the gender via ultrasound is normal and you're the first I ever heard say it wasn't allowed by health insurance.

8/18/2011 12:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

....... "Now go put on the dog and pony
kabuki show for the media like it means something."


8/18/2011 01:11:00 AM


Amen to that whole post. Well said.

8/18/2011 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The pictures of the grey goose bottles next to the teddy bears was a nice touch

8/18/2011 01:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love the picture of the cop-stripper costume she was wearing they had show in the

8/18/2011 02:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What was she arrested for?

8/18/2011 02:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

guns don't kill people but savages do....

8/18/2011 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Dr I.M. Kookie said...

I don't give a rat's ass if the liberals oppose it on civil rights grounds, but if you're on some form of government assistance, 17 years old, and already have one kid birth control should be mandatory for receiving such assistance.

I also don't give a rat's ass if the social conservatives oppose it because it is encouraging sex or because birth control may offend their religious beliefs.

Paying for generation after generation of welfare idiocy of any color offends my taxpayer religion.

When it comes to this kind of stupidity the left and the social values right are both friggin wrong.

We could cure 80 percent of the social problems we have in this country within a generation and a half if we found a way to get the idiots in society to use birth control. I'd even utilize taxpayer money to pay for the birth control and pay the idiots to take it. Better yet offer bonuses for vasectomies and tubal ligations.

8/18/2011 06:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

New "police beating" video all over the news....

8/18/2011 07:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First off I'm reading several comments on "bad" mortgages. Quit feeling sorry for IDIOTS who had to read what they were signing for before they signed it. Barney Frank, Chuck Schummer(??) and even Rahm and NOBAMA were all forcing/profitting from these "evil loans" the banks were FORCED to give out. Again, there isn't ANYONE on this blog who would sign off without reading ALL the least I don't think there are.

8/18/2011 08:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Although it's a tragic story, my first thought when reading this story wasn't about the murder. My first thought was how in the world could this girl, already a mother to one, be pregnant with a second child? This should not be considered a societal norm.

The story went on to state how good a mother she was. Really? Give me an f'in break! What kind of future could this "family" unit expect? Sad, sorry state of affairs.

8/18/2011 09:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First off if she is a mother, what the hell is she out parading around on the streets, I guess her mama has the kid, and then pregnant on top of it, I guess I'm just an ignorant white man who doesn't understand the black culture. 17 yrs old and on kid number 2 with my dime paying for them, it is really sad that the black culture sees nothing wrong with the way they perscieve life, just knock out these kids and society will pay the bills. I really pray for this new baby, I hope that he can be adopted by somebody who can give him a chance in the real world, not the world of Jesse, Booby Rush, Al Sharpton and the rest of the thug ass nation

8/18/2011 09:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:30 is not that late for a 17 year old to be out. A 2nd time pregnant 17 year old yes, way too late. Sad that this happened, but it had to be the baby's dad #1 or #2 or wannabe #3. This story is screwed up on so many levels

8/18/2011 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This troller thinks it is actually very predictible how it will turn out. First, probably a dozen people who were there know who the shooters are, a few more probably heard those responsible going for the street cred and know who the shooters are. Finally all of them will follow the no snitch rule code of honor of the hood. Better to have the thugs on the street with you than help the cops clean up the garbage in your community right? Then Mitchell will do a piece on her hopes and dreams and while some will buy into it, the rest of us with just join Chalky as he chalks it up to another day in the neighborhood. This is really nothing. Its rather boring.

8/18/2011 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We could cure 80 percent of the social problems we have in this country within a generation and a half if we found a way to get the idiots in society to use birth control. I'd even utilize taxpayer money to pay for the birth control and pay the idiots to take it. Better yet offer bonuses for vasectomies and tubal ligations.

8/18/2011 06:37:00 PM

so, my version of birth control isn't working for you?


8/18/2011 10:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can children drink on the southside?

8/18/2011 12:22:00 PM

can a duck float?

8/18/2011 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I gree up in Also. Vito Marzullo's ward and learned from a very early age not much in Chicago politics is legit.

I do not see any hope.

I know of someone who was privy to recent mayoral election shenanigans by Emmanuel. Will anything be done about that, or about 17 year old gang banger girls being killed? The answer us, no.

Chicago and Cook County politicians and media are hopelessly corrupt.

I can't wait to leave. Just a few more years.

8/18/2011 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was a young police officer back in the 60s when Dr. King marched through Marquett Pakr. I did not own any property and had no "skin in the game" I was assigned to all the marches. I remember the day Dr. King was there, very difficult for the police. I thought then that Dr. King had a point. He proved that the people there did not want intergration, that they were racist. Look at the neighborhood now, I wounder what Dr. King would think if he were still alive? A once great neighborhood, now worthless.

8/18/2011 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Air and water show this weekend... 2 million expected.... yet ONLY ABOUT 150 POLICE OFFICERS.... order has.... 9 tac teams, 50 p.p.o.'s and 20 other officers.... wonder how many wildings?????????

8/18/2011 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
New "police beating" video all over the news....

8/18/2011 07:19:00 PM

Watch the video a few times.

Show me where the officers ever "Punch" or "Kick" the two Honor Students?

I see a whole mess of grabbing, wrestling and falling to the ground. THATS IT!

8/19/2011 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember a newspaper article on
"Marquette Park neiborhood, the quiet change." Well it never was a "quiet change" it was a rapid and dangerous change to shit.

8/19/2011 08:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Word is that she was walking with a dude who was not the baby daddy. Supposedly when the shooting started, words were yelled from the vehicle that were directed towards her. There was a splatter of orange pop and punch and do not forget the sour candy packets. Healthy meal for a pregnant girl. Dude who was with her took off before the police showed up. I am wondering if he was part of this plan as well.

8/19/2011 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bring back the death penalty, these fucking gang bangers deserve to die the same way their victims did !!!!!!!!

8/20/2011 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at the neighborhood now, I wounder what Dr. King would think if he were still alive? A once great neighborhood, now worthless.

8/18/2011 10:56:00 PM

If he told the truth, he would say:

As you know, one of my most famous speeches outlined my dreams for our country and our future as one people; black, brown, red, white and yellow, all together, combined in the spirit of brotherhood and sisterhood and striving to achieve the best for our country. I now know my dream has been adulterated and turned into a scheme by the likes of the reverends, especially Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, in order to keep the race tension going for their own purposes and benefit. It is time to shun their charades and for our community to pull up their pants, put down the guns, act like humans and insist that all black children be the result of educated two-parent households. Then, and only then, can we, as a people, contribute to this wonderful country instead of looking for a handout or another social program that not only depletes our country, but consequently creates a mindset where the recipients see no need to achieve. Our bodies have been free from the bonds of slavery for 146 years. It is time to free our minds from the slave mentality and strive to achieve, and no longer deceive ourselves. That is my dream. MLK-2011

8/21/2011 11:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is my dream. MLK-2011

Well Said. To think that Rev. Jackson started this as soon as Dr. King fell. I just don't understand why people can't see through him and Sharpton, I just don't understand.

8/22/2011 01:15:00 PM  

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