Save Rahm Some Money
Over at ChicagoBudget.org, Rahm is soliciting ideas to save some green in order to close a $600 million gap without raising taxes.
You can click over to this link here, then look at the middle of the page. There's a title that reads "Browse Recent Ideas" and directly underneath are a set of tabs that read "Recent," "Popular," and "Hot." Under the "Popular" and "Hot," the top vote getter is "Cut the aldermen pay and expenses."
We're looking to see if anyone had proposed eliminating actual aldercreature spots. Regardless, anything involving aldercreatures ought to get a little attention from the readers. We're all supposed to be in this together, right? We just haven't seen our politicians sacrificing the way they want everyone else to do.
Nothing like sending a message.
You can click over to this link here, then look at the middle of the page. There's a title that reads "Browse Recent Ideas" and directly underneath are a set of tabs that read "Recent," "Popular," and "Hot." Under the "Popular" and "Hot," the top vote getter is "Cut the aldermen pay and expenses."
We're looking to see if anyone had proposed eliminating actual aldercreature spots. Regardless, anything involving aldercreatures ought to get a little attention from the readers. We're all supposed to be in this together, right? We just haven't seen our politicians sacrificing the way they want everyone else to do.
Nothing like sending a message.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
56 Comments:
Cut the aldermen down to maybe what 10 at the max, cut all the gold stars who waste space and dip in to take a triple portion of "our pension" monies!
The alderman don't do anything do they?
Tell me what has your aldermen done?
Raise the curfew for kids because they are unwilling or unable to control the crime? What else?
In the early 1900's we had the same population as we have today and had only 37 wards.
Hey people listen up.
Look around at all the technology we have today compared to the early 1900's.
We have telephones, internet, computers, wireless..etc...
What do we need 50 aldermen for?
To stand in front of a camera when a citizens kids get shot or molested at the playground and tell us that it's dangerous, to hand out flyers?
Bullshit!! What are we getting for our money. What? Think about it.
Get rid of the Daley and Burke Chariot Details. Well over a million or two right there. Let Daley get his rich pals he took care of at all those high priced law firms over the years to handle his lawsuits. Probably saving millions.
Fuck saving Rahm some money.
I have a degree in economics and have run successful businesses. However, I refuse to offer suggestions that may have the unintended consequence of taking money out of a legitimate working man's pocket...suggestions that may very well trickle down to where it effects us as well.
This is a parallel trick to what the CPD uses all the time. Brassholes ask for "suggestions, ideas and input" from the ranks and then take full credit for any and all accolades that come with the implementation of these ideas.
I just had a great idea, Rahm. You and your digit-challenged hand can stop by before my furlough's over and work my balls.
O.T. Is every other district doing what 009 has been doing for the past 3 or 4 weeks? On 3rd watch, every single rapid car is held down the entire tour on "missions" and not given any radio jobs. Only one rapid car actually brings in arrests pretty much daily, but that's another issue in itself. The rapids get their few dispersals, contact cards, parkers, anovs, and they call it a night while every beat car and the wagons run our butts off all night job to job. OEMC is also holding almost all jobs on a beat to that desiganated beat car, which includes stacking priority 1A jobs (sometimes 30 minutes or more) while the rapids roam around on the "missions." Not only is this a danger to the public who have to wait for the beat car to clear up before being assigned the stacked 1-A job while 5 or 6 rapids roam around not being given ANY jobs, but the actual beat cars are running non-stop all night. There has been a RAP or two in 009 almost every night on 3rd watch since this began. Is this the idea of our "gung-ho" commander in 009, or is this going on all across the city?? Just asking, because it's pointless to have 8 or 10 P.O.'s who just come in every night and make a couple street stops and call it a night while everyone else gets denied lunch and runs job to job??
Based on 2010 U.S. Census Bureau data, the populations of the nation's largest cities follows: (The number of city council members follows in parentheses)
Rank - Population - (City Council Members)
1. New York City..8,175,133 (51)
2. Los Angeles.....3,792,621 (15)
4. Houston.........2,099,451 (11)
5. Philadelphia....1,526,006 (17)
6. Phoenix.........1,445,632 (9)
TOTAL...........17,038,843 (103)
(Average: One city council member per 165,426 residents)
3. Chicago.........2,695,598 (50)
(One City Council member per 53,912 residents)
CONCLUSION: Based on per capita city council representation in the nation's other most populous cities, the Chicago City Council needs no more than SEVENTEEN (17) aldermen/wards, each representing approximately 158,565 residents.
nothing we say will matter. they have already said the property taxes were being raised to their maximum limit to pay more for schools than we are already overtaxed. What difference does it make any more? Whatever we save will just be increased by fees and taxes elsewhere so we lose in the end anyway. I'm tired of the card shuffle frankly.
Make the left lane a car pool lane. Violators pay 25 dollars in the form of a parking ticket or ANOV. NO COURT JUST MULTIPLE QUICK TICKETS. This should apply to expressways and big streets.
OT, it's official, the sexual deviant Shields is back. Which means it is also official-McCarthy has NO POWER. I think I will wait this joke of a supe out like JFled. Bitch.
Funny, my "disapprove" button didn't work for the grand plan of assigning a P.O. to every ward superintendent.
A once a month meeting should suffice. And we all know the Supe and the Aldercritter have the Commander's phone numbers.
Smoke and mirrors, he's doing this so when he shoves more taxes (ala the Board of Ed) up our collective asses.
did rahm really whisper he may have to raise taxes--- didn't he just say last week that the residents of chicago are sick of getting nickle and dimed to death--- kind of funny coming out of the mouth of a millionaire who is spending 75,000 for his kids to go to private elementary school this year--- cps is going to get more from all the homeowners via a property tax increase--- rahm is sounding more like a shoe salesman every time he opens his mouth--- he wants to sell you a pair of shoes that he personally would never wear....
Back in the old days, we had two alderman for every ward for 100, that must of took some doing to erradicate.
To the copper in 009, direct your hostility towards the exempt who assigned 009 3 gang conflicts that have to be addressed daily. Thanks Ernie Brown.
Just think, 009 has 3 Conflicts but 004 and 005 only has 1 each?? I think it's because he doesn't like the Commander of 009. Racist or some bullshit rivalry, who knows but I do know The blue shirts in 009 that it actually effects are sick of it. Cmon already Al or Garry, fix it!!
How about cutting useless, morale killing, Inspectors!
I get written up for silly shit, My activity will go down for sure!
No Parkers, Movers, ANOV's, or Arrests!
Signed Beat Cop
QUOTATION OF THE DAY
"We put our time in, we put our money in. And the city, through their callousness and everything else, just blew it."
WALTER TREMBLEY, a 74-year-old retired police officer from Central Falls, R.I., facing a 50% cut in his pension.
Several have proposed cutting Alderthugs by 50%.
the city wants to keep 50 alderman with the excuse that city servises to residents will suffer, so abolish 311 and have all service calls go through the aldermans offices because obviously 311 is not working
Oh he's saving money alright by not hiring to cover the attrition. This is a form of reverse layoff!!!
When the State Police hires a bigger class than
Chicago you know we are in trouble.
Illinois State Police ready for 74 new cadets
Associated Press
6:15 a.m. CDT, August 13, 2011
SPRINGFIELD -- The Illinois State Police are ready for a new class of cadets.
A class of 74 new recruits starts Aug. 21 and will undergo 25 weeks of training at the agency's training academy in Springfield.
If they make it, they'll graduate in February and then become probationary troopers in districts statewide.
Training Academy Commander Rebecca Long says the training is demanding physically, emotionally and intellectually. At the academy, the new recruits learn firearms training, terrorism awareness, criminal law and a host of other things.
When the training is over, State Police Director Hiram Grau says the new troopers will be ready to protect Illinoisans.
it looks like mcgruff had his new york balls removed , he's forced to bring back shields , a merit boss . When will mcgoof bring in a new yorker to help him out .
jfled had a few feds that had his back , but the exempts kept him in the dark , hid plenty of police in the office and made up foot patrols.
Elections matter! As long as fools re-elect these theiving democRATS you taxes will rise and your services will fall.
@ O.T about 009 same thing in 003 ridiculous!!! And when the accidentally get a job there Sgt comes over the air and says reassign that job to somebody else. So it has created a nasty lil subculture in the district beat cars getting there lunchs denied a lot of angry ppl...O btw now there coming up with some kinda bs robbery burglary team using 16 p.os from the watch since now they are going to be assigned to the district and not detailed . (Just another way fro them not to take jobs) im not upset but if u go to robbery or burglary and its bonifide and no arrest has been made stay there and do the paper its only far.
The Rapids in 025 are doing the same thing as in 09 and have been for months. I can't blame the Rapids they are doing what they are told as is the Watch Commander. It is that POS District Commander that is the problem. The beat cars chase jobs all night long and the rapids only stay on their missions.
The same DC that has foot patrols on Fullerton and Diversey every day because of the whim of an Alderman. I have said it before and I will say it again, nothing happens on Fullerton or Diversey, all the problems are north and south of those streets. Just because North Avenue got a foot patrol Suarez thought he needed his own also.
The hottest topic at www.ChicagoBudget.org is the hugely disproportionate size of the 50-member City Council.
I totally agree with 1:04 AM ("$EVENTEEN WARD$").
Rahm , keep campaign promiseReduce number alderman to 25
do you still have 3 workers changing light bulbs
yes , that's what I thought , all talk , NO ACTION
replace commanders with captains
commander in mlas , vice control
give us a break
Bullshit!! What are we getting for our money. What? Think about it.
8/13/2011 12:19:00 AM
abundant prostate stimulation.
I just had a great idea, Rahm. You and your digit-challenged hand can stop by before my furlough's over and work my balls.
8/13/2011 12:54:00 AM
can this task be sub contracted?
I'm tired of the card shuffle frankly.
8/13/2011 01:08:00 AM
then, shirley it's time to get a new deck.
OT Eric Zorn of the Tribune wrote an article in Fridays paper where Rahm will not fire the Fire personnel in the Fire prevention Bureau due to the fact its 85 percent minority. He then
commented on the demonstration supporting the Fire personell that are caught up in this thievery,at St. Sabina and the F/1 Fire Captain that stated they were never instructed on how to do mileage sheets. It looks like Eric is getting fed up with these minority entitlements.
Why not a forensic audit on the grants and other monies going to these charitable institutions? Most notably the reverands.
Beat Whitey!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el8ujyaZwnU&feature=youtu.be
To: O.T. Is every other district doing what 009 has been doing for the past 3 or 4 weeks.
Here is your answer………Every district is in protection mode. The commanders know they are being scrutinized by Jersey Boy and DTEB who is trying to stay afloat himself. DTEB is screwing with your commander BIG TIME, calling him at all hours of the night asking why he hasn't responded to his email yet, and demanding to know what each and every car is doing at the instant of any one of the random incidents of violence. DTEB wants IN WRITING a separate report for every incident hat occurs inside one of the boxes. To show the level of F#$K he is getting, 009 is the only district with three boxes, every other district has one. After an incident, a report has to be done to DTEB detailing why the box was created, what the problems are in the area in and surrounding the boxes, what resources have been utilized to address the problems, what each resource was doing at the time of the incident and what plan of action immediately followed the incident and what long term strategy is going to be implemented. If DTEB is told a car was running a mission, he wants the mission number and results of the mission, i.e. number of contact cards, curfews, arrests with CB#s etc. If they were down on an assignment he wants the nature of the assignment, event number, RD number. If a car was available, for how long? Now, none of that matters, but DTEB and his minion clowns are screwing with your commander in order to get him to quit and fill the slot with one of his preferences. We were all hoping for the fall of DTEB, he was over-promoted at patrolman- but Jersey Boy is obviously not calling the shots. He has shown himself to simply be a figurehead. He is told by Rohm and the political hack government we have what he will do, what he will say and who will be doing what and where. He is only a photo prop! Doubt me? Would ANY copper, or most any citizen for that matter believe that beach excuse. Hell No! We closed the beach because it was too hot is the statement of a politician desperately scrambling to conjure up a lie so the violence ravaging down town and the lakefront doesn’t get known by the tax payers----- I mean voters. Lie at any cost to save face, get votes and steal money/funds. Notice it was Jersey boy lying and not digi-squat the mayor. If the citizenry didn't believe the lie digi could step in for the spin/save and admonish the new Supt for not knowing. Jersey boy sold his soul on that day!
• Establish term limits for all city, county and state elected officials.
• Establish a recall referendum initiative for voters to oust city, county and state elected officials for cause.
• As proposed by 10:04 AM, restructure the Chicago City Council from 50 to about 17 wards/aldermen.
• In taxpayer interests in excellence and morale and to eliminate any perception of impropriety and corruption, base all police hiring, promotions and assignments on unbiased, transparent, well-defined standardized criteria which eliminates "clout"/patronage, nepotism, cronyism and outright bribery (collectively known as "the Chicago Way"). Also publish a written, categorical and unequivocal definition of what the City of Chicago refers to as "merit" in evaluating personnel in said processes.
What do aldermen do anyway? Get rid of all 50.
Anonymous said...
O.T. Is every other district doing what 009 has been doing for the past 3 or 4 weeks? On 3rd watch, every single rapid car is held down the entire tour on "missions" and not given any radio jobs. Only one rapid car actually brings in arrests pretty much daily, but that's another issue in itself. The rapids get their few dispersals, contact cards, parkers, anovs, and they call it a night while every beat car and the wagons run our butts off all night job to job. OEMC is also holding almost all jobs on a beat to that desiganated beat car, which includes stacking priority 1A jobs (sometimes 30 minutes or more) while the rapids roam around on the "missions." Not only is this a danger to the public who have to wait for the beat car to clear up before being assigned the stacked 1-A job while 5 or 6 rapids roam around not being given ANY jobs, but the actual beat cars are running non-stop all night. There has been a RAP or two in 009 almost every night on 3rd watch since this began. Is this the idea of our "gung-ho" commander in 009, or is this going on all across the city?? Just asking, because it's pointless to have 8 or 10 P.O.'s who just come in every night and make a couple street stops and call it a night while everyone else gets denied lunch and runs job to job??
8/13/2011 01:00:00 AM
Its the same way in my district. Wish I was on a rapid car!
LOL & Spewing Summer Shandy all over the keyboard to Westside do nuthin's post !! I'm guessin' you don't care for our illustrious new mayor, huh? LOL
Saving Rahm some money.....Daley & Vaneko were spotted on Michigan Ave measuring window sizes at some of the exclusive stores. Busy Bee & Mohamad Ali Board Up Service was just bought out by Capitol Ventures LLC.
if anyone plans on doing their roof next spring better buy the plywood now, coming May 2012 the G8/NATO riots will make that stuff as scarce as a district time keeper at noon.
Rahm is going have YOU the homeowner foot the bill for this fiasco. No wonder he needs to save money today. Has anyone looked into how much it cost Toronto for the G8 last year(?) and they still haven't finished re-building.
Better go home and get that shine box, no raise in 2012.
Mac-Zero
The alderman don't do anything do they?
Tell me what has your aldermen done?
Raise the curfew for kids because they are unwilling or unable to control the crime? What else?
In the early 1900's we had the same population as we have today and had only 37 wards.
Hey people listen up.
Look around at all the technology we have today compared to the early 1900's.
We have telephones, internet, computers, wireless..etc...
What do we need 50 aldermen for?
To stand in front of a camera when a citizens kids get shot or molested at the playground and tell us that it's dangerous, to hand out flyers?
Bullshit!! What are we getting for our money. What? Think about it.
8/13/2011 12:19:00
I agree 100% Why do we need any aldermen period. When you call for problems you get directed to call 311. Everyday someone posts to lessen or eliminate aldermen. I've been saying this for years. I posted several times to eliminate aldermen on this site but someone (probably an alderman) always rebuts they are needed because why? because we always had them. Good reasoning. Get rid of them all now and save money
At several parks through out the south side, the sprinklers in the kids wadding pools have been on 24/7 since june. I have a water bill why does the park dist waste water?
Funny, my "disapprove" button didn't work for the grand plan of assigning a P.O. to every ward superintendent.
I agree with you!
We should assign a Police Officer to every Ward Sup.
They are constantly threatened and many instances even death threats....specially when they write hefty citations to an irresponsable home or business owners.
Should Chicago Cut the Size of its City Council? BGA Analysis Does the Math (re-posting from Dec. 2010)
[...]
The Cost of the City Council
According to the 2011 budget released by City Hall, the City Council budget for next year will be $24.5 million. Without knowing how other cities calculate their City Hall budgets, it’s hard to make a comparison. In addition to the $110,000 salary Aldermen receive, they get $176,484 a year to pay for three employees. They also have a $73,280 expense account, which, according to Title 2 of the Municipal Code of Chicago, they are free to use in ways ranging from travel costs to the “payment of miscellaneous, ordinary and necessary expenses incurred in connection with the performance of an alderman’s official duties.” That’s approximately $350,000 taken up by operating costs for each aldermanic office. This does not include the amount spent on pensions and other benefits. To see how your Alderman spent his or her expense account, take a look at this Chicago Tribune app. Just enter your address.
Savings from Cuts to the Council
If Chicago reduced the city council’s size in half, from 50 to 25, there would be savings for the city. The city would save $2.7 million in alderman salaries on top of another $4.4 million that would be saved by eliminating the salaries of the three staffers per alderman. Nonetheless, a reduction in the number of wards would not necessarily lead to the elimination of all ward staff because each ward office would have to double the number of constituents it serves. But there can certainly be some reduction in duplicative roles when Aldermen staffs are combined.
Streamlining government by eradicating wasteful and inefficient levels of government, and getting rid of redundant or unnecessary positions within the bureaucracy, is the most compelling argument for reducing the size of the city council. For example, on top of the savings from the elimination of aldermanic and staff salaries, combining wards would lead to a change in the streets and sanitation budget. Currently, a ward superintendent who receives an average of $90,000 a year runs each ward. They manage garbage collection, snow removal, and the blue cart recycling program within their wards, and only within their wards. Even if it would make more sense for a garbage truck to continue its pick up down, say, a one way street, ward boundaries—not common sense or efficiency—dictate the route.
How about cutting useless, morale killing, Inspectors!
I get written up for silly shit, My activity will go down for sure!
No Parkers, Movers, ANOV's, or Arrests!
Signed Beat Cop
Unfortunately it has to start somewhere, wear you vest, seatbelt, star and have a beat tag. ANswer you jobs and come clear in a timely manner, stop blaming everyone else for your mistakes.
ON the other hand, accountability needs to go both ways, we all know that doesn't happen. Inspectors should be retired guys, each given a one year contract, made up of all previous ranks. We need inspectors who arent worried about their spots or getting launched.
I am starting to form the opinion that this new guy is exactly the same as the last guy. I did not expect anything else.
All you guys do is complain do something about it stop coding jobs, if you can, always do paper always make the arrest. Do every job from burglar alarms to a domestic like your suppose to canvas the area take real foot patrols lock up a public drinker.See what happens when every beat car is on a arrest if your ordered to let the offender go contact card them, per the boss giving you the order, you cant get in trouble for doing the job exactly the way the general orders say. You might lose your beat car big deal.
The rapids get their few dispersals, contact cards, parkers, anovs, and they call it a night while every beat car and the wagons run our butts off all night job to job.
don't like the situation? work a rapid. while you are bellied up to a bar getting your drunk on, we are still here at work. if you like the early start then stfu you whiner. want the crap that comes along at 2300-0001 hrs., then get on a rapid or can it. just like a kid who wants the toy his friend has but does'nt know how to get it without crying. we are doing what we are told by our BOSS. it's callled a JOB baby.
009 stormtrooper sick of humping jobs all night long--- talk to a few of the old salty dogs--- they will teach you how to be a sub commander, run silent and deep and never come up for air....
Even if that would fix the debt crisis in Chicago, he wouldn't. Those are political jobs and politicians rob the American people. He will instead lay off or take money away from the city workers and why, because he can. Hope the teachers say fuck you and strike.
Don't just lay out your arguments here, go to the site and voice your concerns.
They are talking about giving the sgt's more responsibilities! Does that include the four sgts and the Lt that are assigned to unit 111 the suprintendents office? WTF!
Anonymous said...
How about cutting useless, morale killing, Inspectors!
I get written up for silly shit, My activity will go down for sure!
No Parkers, Movers, ANOV's, or Arrests!
Signed Beat Cop
8/13/2011 09:06:00 AM
They might as well write me up for bullshit. All I do is answer my jobs. Signed Nobody's fool.
Anonymous said...
O.T. Is every other district doing what 009 has been doing for the past 3 or 4 weeks? On 3rd watch, every single rapid car is held down the entire tour on "missions" and not given any radio jobs. Only one rapid car actually brings in arrests pretty much daily, but that's another issue in itself. The rapids get their few dispersals, contact cards, parkers, anovs, and they call it a night while every beat car and the wagons run our butts off all night job to job. OEMC is also holding almost all jobs on a beat to that desiganated beat car, which includes stacking priority 1A jobs (sometimes 30 minutes or more) while the rapids roam around on the "missions." Not only is this a danger to the public who have to wait for the beat car to clear up before being assigned the stacked 1-A job while 5 or 6 rapids roam around not being given ANY jobs, but the actual beat cars are running non-stop all night. There has been a RAP or two in 009 almost every night on 3rd watch since this began. Is this the idea of our "gung-ho" commander in 009, or is this going on all across the city?? Just asking, because it's pointless to have 8 or 10 P.O.'s who just come in every night and make a couple street stops and call it a night while everyone else gets denied lunch and runs job to job??
8/13/2011 01:00:00 AM
Welcome to COMPsat. Get used to it. Only thing you can do is get out of here as soon as you can or get on a rapid.
What do aldermen do anyway? Get rid of all 50.
8/13/2011 04:18:00 PM
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Absolutely! Rahm can be Dictator for Life!
p.s. You're a mush.
The rapids get their few dispersals, contact cards, parkers, anovs, and they call it a night while every beat car and the wagons run our butts off all night job to job.
don't like the situation? work a rapid. while you are bellied up to a bar getting your drunk on, we are still here at work. if you like the early start then stfu you whiner. want the crap that comes along at 2300-0001 hrs., then get on a rapid or can it. just like a kid who wants the toy his friend has but does'nt know how to get it without crying. we are doing what we are told by our BOSS. it's callled a JOB baby.
8/14/2011 12:15:00 AM
Omg either all rapids everywhere are illiterate tough anonymous guys or I know u from somewhere...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They are talking about giving the sgt's more responsibilities! Does that include the four sgts and the Lt that are assigned to unit 111 the suprintendents office? WTF!
8/14/2011 12:59:00 PM
Why does rahm have a COMMANDER and daley also have a commander (another title same pay), why can't a sergeant handle this simple valet detail?
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