Lieutenants Meeting
Anyone to verify?
- Off topic: McNutty's meeting with the Lts.
McNutty held his long awaited meeting with the Tact Lts. occurred to day at 1300 hrs. Lt. Mike Ryan from 022 didn't show. Three other Lts. didn't show either.
McNutty said that he is going to mix up the Cmdrs. of all the districts, meaning a district in a white area could wind up with a black Cmdr., and vice versa. He also said he was going to expand the desk Sgt. duties, meaning they will essentially run roll calls, A & A sheets, etc., basically watch commander duties.
3 Street Deputy spots are going to be brought back.
DTEB was there, but the Supt. asked him to leave, stating "it's just gonna be us (Supt. & Lts.) here for a while."
The meeting lasted for about 90 minutes, and it wasn't a bad one. IT's just going to be really interesting to see how McNutty is going to integrate the commanders in the districts, as he is now living in one of the most segregated cities in North America. Good luck with THAT!
Someone also posted that a number of Inspectors have been named. Any truth to either of these?
Labels: from the comments, rumors
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
105 Comments:
Who is DTEB?
Mike Ryan is a fucking TOOL!!!!!
Hey asshole who the fuck who think lives in the area west of Longwood Drive, the city workers, when was the last time a fucking tact team was west of Longwood.
Mike Ryan couldnt lead his way out of the 022nd district even if he had a Wal-Mart greeter showing him the way.
the fuckn revs will not allow a non black commander in 002 003 005 006 007 011 015 but if a black commanders gets 004 008 009 010 012 013 014 022 023 white wont say shit
Damn so an a po as an acting desk sgt will be running the show sometimes. I guess the inmates will be running the asylum
Very true...on Wed night in 019, a one Penny Trahanas was in the district around 2245 hrs or so. Apparantly she is assigned to Area 3.
Most Sergeants don't want to have ANYTHING to do with working the desk... ESPECIALLY in an Area District.
There's a reason for that and if they are going to increase the responsibility on the desk Sergeants, There'll be EVEN MORE reason for it!
That's fine. Where I work, in 025, our last FIVE Commanders have been Hispanic. It's time to bring in a M/1 or F/1. Afterall, that population does make up a large section of the district.
Plus, LAPA and LAPA lite could use the wind getting taken out of their sails. Oh, and a certain Alder-Creature/Vice-Mayor would probably get pissed, which would be awesome.
I'd say that the best candidate for the job should be based on their leadership skills rather then the make-up of their race, but they are probably all equally incompetent anyway.
If desk Sgt.'s duties are expanded to W/C duties does a bump in pay come with that? What about the frequent occasion where there's an acting desk Sgt. will a P.O. then assume W/C duties?
What does this mean for current W/C's who are mostly Lt.'s?
Talked to some people there are 5 new inspectors. One is a f2 in her forties a lt she came to roll call and was checking cars in the lot for city stickers in 10th district a few days ago
Since it doesn't sound like they plan on hiring anytime soon this would fit into Rahm and GMac's mantra of doing more with less. Even if this bumped up the pay of the desk Sgt. the city would be saving by not paying into the pension at the upgraded pay scale.
In a busy district there already is plenty for a desk Sgt. to do. Throw in roll calls, A&A's etc. and it could become a bit much at times.
You mean the idiot in Englewood might foisted on a white neighborhood? Damn! That ain't right, office!
Lol, Mike.
What will this accomplish. Whites dont want black or brown as much as they dont want white. The reverends will hop up and down with a white commander. Does he think he can intergrate this town? I dont think so. Good luck trying.
I doubt many alderman, or reverands,would allow their hand picked lackeys to be replaced.I say McPuppet doesn't have this much power.
90% of police department’s do NOT have a desk sergeant.
It is an unnecessary overpaid position of large democratic big cities with over-bloated spending in their budgets.
A police sergeant is a supervisor who should ideally supervise 8 to 10 officers.
What does a desk sergeant in Chicago do? He sits at the desk with 2 officers who handle all the citizens who come into the station.
The desk sergeant’s main responsibility is bonding out misdemeanor offenders that the watch commander gives approval to bond out. He writes the I-bonds, gets the endless about of paperwork that goes with the I-Bond or the felony packages together. He also holds the key to the property safe.
Basically a lot of paperwork duties.
A $95,000.00 @ year Sergeant should not be doing this just to supervise 2 P.O.s that work the desk.
Sure, it’s nice to have a desk sergeant to smooth over someone who comes in with a beef about a copper however what do they do in other cities? Make the citizen wait and call a sergeant in off the street.
If the city was smart they would have 3 officers on the desk instead of 2.
One of the officers would be designated as the “bonding officer”.
He would write all the I-Bond’s and get the paperwork ready for felony offenders and others going to court.
He would also sign for the safe key and release prisoners property.
The general order would have to be re-written so that the “desk sergeant” or “acting desk sergeant” would be permanently taken out.
The city would save the cost of 75 desk sergeant positions at the cost of 75 x $100,000+ @ year. (Don’t forget the extra supervisor’s quarterly and O.T that comes with the pay.
In all there are no more than 8 to 10 officers working in a district station. That is enough for the watch commander to supervise.
AND SPEAKING OF THE WATCH COMMANDER WHO MAKES $130,000 @ YEAR:
Once the department is down to under 20 CAPTAINS, The department should send them off auditing as inspectors or to other command spots to get rid of many of the unnecessary exempt spots. (ie; bullshit commanders in bullshit units)
The watch commander general order should be rewritten to make ONLY lieutenants watch commanders without any out of grade pay (captains pay) If the orders are rewritten getting rid of the “desk sergeant” and Captain/9175 as the watch commander.
The FOP and the lieutenants unions cannot win a grievance regarding these now defunct positions
NOW . .
about all these fucking take home cars . . . .
"He also said he was going to expand the desk Sgt. duties, meaning they will essentially run roll calls . . basically watch commander duties. "
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I can tell you this as a sergeant who has NOTHING to lose.
My rollcalls will last no more than 1 minute:
"Is everyone here? Okay, Now go get your coffee. One more day closer to retirement and I don't give a shit about anything"
Tact teams hours at least in area 1 switched as of 12aug11 on fridays and saturdays. Days 1030-1930, nights 1900-0400.
LT was on the golf course with a cigar in one hand and a glass in the other.
Does this goof have any idea what a Desk Sergeant does in a busy district.
There are so few Sergeants left anymore that most nights we have an "actor" in that spot.
For our non-police readers, an "actor" is an officer of lower rank temporarily placed in a position of higher rank. Example, a Police Officer would be and "Acting Desk Sergeant", a Lieutenant would be an "Acting Watch Commander". The "actor" officer would be paid the higher payrate for the tour of duty but not the pension upgrade. We are running out of police officers of all ranks.
Who would wanna work the desk sgt job if they gotta do all that other bullshit.
Who is good enough to be an Inspector?
Is Miss Henny Penny up for it?
That's real stylish, but stylish doesn't cut it in the CPD.
Been doing this for 28 years. There's a saying that goes, "Old traditions die hard."
Dist Cmdrs have ALWAYS been picked by the alderman of the ward of that district. Neighboring wards put in their 2 bits. Today, of course, the pimp-preachers have a big say on the West Side and South Side. Before I made detective, in 015, 010, and 021 that was always the case where the alderman picked the Cmdr.
Well, let me give my humble opinion based on 35 years in the department ( retired) and long retired. The white community will accept a black commander, but no way in hell will the black community ( by that I mean reverands and politicos) accept a white commander. I am just not sure about hispanic areas on how that will go. I have called for this integration of police brass long ago for I think it limits peoples advancement based on race. But, for this to really work, promotions will have to be based on true merit, not the phony political promotion system in place since time began. This will be an interesting experiment.
What is he going to do about contract issues concerning out of grade pay? Does that mean the desk sgt will be getting captain's pay for the day? I wonder if tthe new guy has even read any of the police contracts?
but if a black commanders gets 004 008 009 010 012 013 014 022 023 white wont say shit
8/12/2011 12:26:00 AM
....untill it's too late.....
"Down Town" Ernie Brown
"A 28 Year Sergeant said...
90% of police department’s do NOT have a desk sergeant...."
And 99.999% of police departments do NOT even remotely compare to CPD (in volume, city size, etc. etc.).
It will never happen. As soon as DTEB wasn't fired or demoted I knew this guy had zero power as to the placement of the exempts, (at least the black bosses that is).
They tried this shit before. They had a WOP and a FOP ( watch operations and field operations lieutenants ). That didn't work either. The 3 lieutenants assigned to the watch couldn't get along. I don't figure 5 sergeants are going to get along any better.
90% of police department’s do NOT have a desk sergeant.
It is an unnecessary overpaid position of large democratic big cities with over-bloated spending in their budgets.
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The same 90% of police departments do not have lockups at all, prisoners are immediately transported to a county jail facility, NOT housed at the department. Check your facts. The districts without a lockup - fine, stop having a desk sergeant, but as long as there are lockups in districts, the sergeant is essential.
You can't just look at this issue as a one dimensional issue...
Should we get out of the business of housing prisoners? Absolutely... but as long as we are housing them, we are open to civil liability - in the millions of dollars every year - you can't just ignore it.
Now, getting out of it would be great but try doing that in Crook County! Of course, the taxpayer will still be holding the liability bag here - just paying out through the county instead of the city... I could go on and on... but suffice it to say, you know not of what you "type" (speak)
One is a f2 in her forties a lt she came to roll call and was checking cars in the lot for city stickers in 10th district a few days ago
8/12/2011 03:17:00 AM
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Since field inspectors should be Captains according to the contract, the Captains should look into that... then again, Rahm doesn't care about contracts...
please get rid of take home cars!!!!!
This may be in response to the 'race relations' meeting a few weeks ago. The Sup had all the exempts in for a little sit down regarding race.
Apparently a certain Commander started complaining that all the black Commanders got stuck in the terrible black Districts. This caused the black Commanders to get yelled at in the Comstat meetings.
This Commander bounced (that's a hint) the idea that perhaps it would be easier to just put the black commanders in a good (white) District. He then went on to elaborate that more black Sgts and Lts should be mentored into the positions.
Yep. This town is all about race. That's why we do so well and look so good to the rest of the Country.
Captains should replace Commanders in units like MLAS , ERPS , Crime Lab , Public Transportation , Vice Control . The remaining Captains should only be assigned to an area and approve arrest reports for all districts , a desk sgt should be in charge of district watches , desk sgts do 99% of watch commanders job . District Field Lt. will be eliminated , Field Lts will report to areas and be assigned to cover 2 or more districts.
The term for the Supt. "McNutty" seems to be on target.
Why the fuck do these bosses come in and reinvent the fucking wheel, time and time again?
Nothing will be accomplished because he and others like him lead from the top down, completely oblivious of leading along side the men and women on the street.
McNutty, keep up your ludicrous actions and you will be as loved as J-Fled.
The city needs us NOT you! We are the ones who answer 911 calls, NOT you! We risk our lives NOT you!
We run the department NOT you! Make whatever rules, changes, promotions you want, but if you don't get our respect, your plans will fail miserably.
When we don't follow your plan what will you do? Write us all up? Put us in call-back? Make an example of us?
You better get your head on straight, boss, because working with us will be a lot easier than working against us, and that "us" includes more than a few sgts and lts, too.
008th district Tact Lt didnt show.... 008 commander ordered to put him back on the watch and find someone else
the fuckn revs will not allow a non black commander in 002 003 005 006 007 011 015 but if a black commanders gets 004 008 009 010 012 013 014 022 023 white wont say shit
your right about that except about 008 and 022. Ald burke picks who the commanders of HIS district are and the 19th ward alderman usually says who the boss out there will be.
Anonymous said...
Very true...on Wed night in 019, a one Penny Trahanas was in the district around 2245 hrs or so. Apparantly she is assigned to Area 3.
8/12/2011 12:55:00 AM
Yes, i've seen her in 023 numerous times already. The word is, she targets the "good" districts and leaves the south and west side ones alone. We should make her fill out those stickers for every violation she writes so we can track if she's racially profiling, like they do to us.
A 28 Year Sergeant said...
90% of police department’s do NOT have a desk sergeant.
It is an unnecessary overpaid position of large democratic big cities with over-bloated spending in their budgets.
8/12/2011 05:46:00 AM
Being a blue shirt with about 10 years on, i can say that i truly think that having a desk sgt is one of the best uses of sgt's. It's great to have a sgt in the station to go to for questions, advice, etc.. and they work 10x harder than the sgt's on the street. There is always some bullshit going on at the desk or in the station that the desk sgt has to handle/deal with. So i think you're off on this one, but i do appreciate anyone who comes on here with ideas for change instead of just spewing critisism without offering any solutions.
To: A 28 Year Sergeant said...
I highly doubt you were ever the police, at least not in Chicago.
Maybe you were a Sergeant who got made when you were 28 years old and sent to some office in the Ivory Tower and now finds himself facing the street for the first time. I think you are just one of Rahm’s plants, or one of McGees lackeys brought in from NYC.
"90% of police department’s do NOT have a desk sergeant.
It is an unnecessary overpaid position of large democratic big cities with over-bloated spending in their budgets."
A Desk Sergeant supervises every Police Officer that walks in the door of the station, not just those who work the desk and lockup. IF you ever were the police you would have heard the expression, "the Desk Sergeant is the landlord of the station."
Police without supervision or hope of promotion can go rogue easily. When that happens people will ask, WHERE WAS THEIR SUPERVISION.?!?
Like in London, this slash and burn policy is going to lead this city to hell.
People will scream, WHERE ARE THE POLICE?!?!
I was there he was just bouncing some ideas off the Tact Lt's and asking their opinions. If you don't think this Dept could use some changes then don't complain when it is more of the same!
Anonymous said...
Talked to some people there are 5 new inspectors. One is a f2 in her forties a lt she came to roll call and was checking cars in the lot for city stickers in 10th district a few days ago
8/12/2011 03:17:00 AM
According to the Captain's contract, all 5 field inspectors slots are captains, not lieutenants. They used to be only lieutenants; not anymore.
RE:Very true...on Wed night in 019, a one Penny Trahanas was in the district around 2245 hrs or so.
She was checking for beat tags and assorted ways to gig a po for both third watch checkoff and 1st watch roll calls.
hey 546 AM...
If you're really a Sergeant...IF... then you are the biggest dummy I've (hopefully) never had or will have the displeasure of working with. And it's quite obvious you've never worked in a busy area (like area 4) in the capacity of a Sergeant, specifically Desk Sergeant. I won't bore the readership here with all the duties & responsibilities a desk sergeant handles. But you should know what this position entails. A quick hint, jackass...it's a bit more than I-Bonds and "key to the property safe".
28 year sergeant, my ass. Your moniker should've read: "A sergeant hidden from reality for 28 years due to being a political hack handjob". Let me guess - you cut your teeth as a sergeant in ERPS or the court section and you were just "too valuable" to be sent anywhere else, right? I GUARANTEE I know more about a sergeant's responsibilities than you do, you fucking dummy. Retire already so some of the more deserving and capable can get made off the list sooner than later.
- 011 regularly acting desk sergeant
Who is DTEB?
8/12/2011 12:04:00 AM
dteb of the iceberg?
I dont know what district you work in "28 year Sergeant". The last three districts that I worked in were lucky to have two sergeants on the street and hardly ever had the luxury of an actual desk sergeant. I can not find fault with your math but dont believe you are a sergeant or you would realize that there are many more duties that a desk sergeant performs.
Henny penny was is 019 looking for the most minor infractions to write officers up on. She is attempting to redeem herself with higher ups and reverends and will be a bitch to all po's. Heads up officers start doing the time checks and be safe
This guy better start to look at the quality of the people that work for him. Most of your sergeants could give a f--- about what goes on in their district. Like the one poster, "one minute roll calls." McGoofy, this ain't New Yok, quit trying to turn in into that. Jody made some very STUPID decisions that put a lasting hurt on this department. You are on track to do the same. Wake up and find some people who can advise you, casue you ain't done too good so far pal.
So who is the new D/C of 004?
Was that ryan co in court section during sos court scandal
Hey Sergeant KMA:
You forgot one thing which bears repeating:
"Let's be really careful out there!"
Good Idea..Have a P.O. who hasn't made an arrest in years approving your arrest reports..
By the way..They can re write whatever order they want..Taking away someone's duties or re-assigning duties from WC to LT or even a P.O. to Sgt will have to be negotiated..Can't just change someone's duties and not pay them. It's a contract violation...
news alert
Captains will be assigned as Inspectors , good deal Captains pay to perform duties of a Lieutenant and Lts. will be assigned as district watch commanders . Lts. pay to perform duties of a Captain.Not so good.
Who the hell took over Lts Union to allow this BS.
Commander dumped fromm 11 , reassigned as an Inspector , take home car , straight days , I guess it pays to screw up with McCarthy in charge of CPD.
My rollcalls will last no more than 1 minute:
"Is everyone here? Okay, Now go get your coffee. One more day closer to retirement and I don't give a shit about anything"
8/12/2011 05:55:00 AM
God Bless Sarge, but me, as a Retired Boss (CPD), now with an outside agency, you gotta give a shit, at least about your troops.
Roll Calls are mostly bullshit spinning and throwing around kool-ade from the puzzle palace(Main Reason for retiring). I get that. But if your guys on days don't know that there was a Police shooting on Bt XYZ on 1st watch and some dude is looking for revenge, and no one on 2nd watch knew about it...WTF?
Happened a few weeks ago on a CPD Zone we monitor. Days Sgt was called to the address of the shooting "Request for a Supervisor" and had no clue that the Police dusted mama's baby there. The Zone had to fill him in that there was a Police shooting at that address on 1st Watch. Why the W/C didn't relate this to him and the troops at roll call....I dunno.
That's just my 2 pennies.
TBJG
05:46:00
Check your figures! You don't save $7.5 million by replacing a sergeant with a PO (most likely a maxed out PO) it would be closer to $250-500K. Anyone that would take on that responsibility without additional compensation would be a fool.
28 yr o.t.j. Sgt. can BLOW ME. You couldn't find your ass with both hands, you fucking nimrod. Go back to whatever hidden hole you show up at for (maybe) 6 hours and leave the REAL POLICE work to THE REAL POLICE. No doubt you're a hack extraordinaire that can't make Lieutenant, hence your rant trying to "out" everyone and their Mother in this forum.
And "Bonding Officer", huh Sarge?...you probably thought that was the liaison in the CAPS office that works with the Explorers until someone told you differently...just yesterday. You truly don't have a fuckin' clue, my man. Now go back to sleep in whichever basement you "work" in.
Anonymous said...
Very true...on Wed night in 019, a one Penny Trahanas was in the district around 2245 hrs or so. Apparantly she is assigned to Area 3.
8/12/2011 12:55:00 AM
Yes, i've seen her in 023 numerous times already. The word is, she targets the "good" districts and leaves the south and west side ones alone. We should make her fill out those stickers for every violation she writes so we can track if she's racially profiling, like they do to us.
you must be kidding how can they keep this lt roaming in the police department . hopefully she has change her self and stop fu*kin up.
that sound like a great ideal , this would be history in the making for the northside districts . like 19, 24 and 20 and 23 who has never had a african american commanders. great ideal finally african american in the north side districts .
008th district Tact Lt didnt show.... 008 commander ordered to put him back on the watch and find someone else
8/12/2011 10:49:00 AM
You are an idiot. That is how much you know.
He is in Quantico, dummy!!
that sound like a great ideal , this would be history in the making for the northside districts . like 19, 24 and 20 and 23 who has never had a african american commanders. great ideal finally african american in the north side districts .
8/12/2011 05:18:00 PM
make sure they're idiots.
i don't need the help, but would appreciate the relaxing work environment.
Chalkie
28 year sergeant, my ass. Your moniker should've read: "A sergeant hidden from reality for 28 years due to being a political hack handjob". Let me guess - you cut your teeth as a sergeant in ERPS or the court section and you were just "too valuable" to be sent anywhere else, right? I GUARANTEE I know more about a sergeant's responsibilities than you do, you fucking dummy. Retire already so some of the more deserving and capable can get made off the list sooner than later.
- 011 regularly acting desk sergeant
I've got a news flash for both you bright bulbs....A Sgt. assigned to ERPS has a lot more to do that a desk Sgt. in ANY district, and that includes 011 too.
You'd be surprised at the amount of searches we have to mount to missing seized items; making sure that items aren't destroyed before we receive a court order to do so...sending back stuff that we received that doesn't contain what the inventory states...keeping things straight down there is no easy task. And I won't even go into the storage of controlled substances.
Retired CPD supervisor who was assigned to ERPS and worked as a desk Sgt. in 011
The department has not approached the LT.s union yet regarding this plan. No one has approved anything.
Talked to some people there are 5 new inspectors. One is a f2 in her forties a lt she came to roll call and was checking cars in the lot for city stickers in 10th district a few days ago
Thats Debbie Pascqua (Im not sure on the spelling) she's ok, wont hurt you unless your a fuck up.
Hey moron with the "scoop" about 008 district Tac Lt. missing the meeting. 860 is training in Virginia, and yes 800 knew, and no he did not send him back to the watch. Idiot
So who is the new D/C of 004?
Evans for now
It's official, Shields is coming back. Wonder who he is knocking out of a spot. Since there is only a 1st Deputy Supernintendo then Chiefs, who will get axed. Wondering if he will come back as a Street Deputy, Chief or a Deputy Chief. Then again with his clout McNutty may be demoted to a shoe shine boy for Supernintendo Shields.
Before you think you should get rid of the desk sergeant, sit in his chair some day in a busy district and see exactly what he does. If you do the job right, there is little room for error. Ever look at how much paper goes to court with each arrestee?? Usually 50 (fifty) pages minimum EACH. If they want to get rid of desk sgt's fine, but you better turn off the damn phone that never stops ringing and put the closed sign up for all the walk ins. Bonding/getting prisoners ready for court ain't no joke!
- Not a Sgt. (nor under his desk)
Very true...on Wed night in 019, a one Penny Trahanas was in the district around 2245 hrs or so. Apparantly she is assigned to Area 3.
8/12/2011 12:55:00 AM
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My sincere condolences to you in a/3, then.
Talked to some people there are 5 new inspectors. One is a f2 in her forties a lt she came to roll call and was checking cars in the lot for city stickers in 10th district a few days ago
Thats Debbie Pascqua (Im not sure on the spelling) she's ok, wont hurt you unless your a fuck up.
8/12/2011 07:38:00 PM
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Never had a bad job on this job. Forties? Not lately.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It's official, Shields is coming back. Wonder who he is knocking out of a spot. Since there is only a 1st Deputy Supernintendo then Chiefs, who will get axed. Wondering if he will come back as a Street Deputy, Chief or a Deputy Chief. Then again with his clout McNutty may be demoted to a shoe shine boy for Supernintendo Shields.
8/12/2011 09:34:00 PM
The bet is coming back as a Lt? Yea ok funny shit,give him 2 months like when aunt bea left to take the big job at CTA and came back as LT they rose to the top quickly watch shields,mac will be gone soon and shields and his holes will all be at the top ssdd!
008 tact LT is on approved leave to the FBINA in Washington
Anonymous said...
Was that ryan co in court section during sos court scandal
8/12/2011 01:46:00 PM
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Was he not a Sgt in SOS also?
RE:Very true...on Wed night in 019, a one Penny Trahanas was in the district around 2245 hrs or so.
She was checking for beat tags and assorted ways to gig a po for both third watch checkoff and 1st watch roll calls.
8/12/2011 11:23:00 AM
YET!
This department expect P.O.'s to get activity out of a beat car when you have a connected bimbo like Penny Trahanas, who NEVER done Police work gig a P.O. for silly shit!
Watch the Movers, Parkers and ANOV's in 019 and 023 drop into the toilet!
Hey Boss, FUCK YOU AND YOUR NUMBERS [Quota]!
Da Pelon
http://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/as-mayor-rahm-emanuel-shines-spotlight-on-chicago-dance/2011/08/09/gIQAcPOMBJ_story.html?wpisrc=nl_headlines
Check this out
I know most of you are upset at me because it’s all about MONEY in YOUR POCKETS.
For those of you acting desk sergeants you WANT out of grade pay.
For those of you who want to make sergeant you are PISSED if they cut 75 sergeant spots from the budget.
I’m here to tell you hairgel kids I worked in the busiest districts for all of my 28 years.
I worked my ass off when they made me the desk sergeant with ENDLESS paperwork.
And I can tell you this: VERY LITTLE of it included supervisory matter. After all, why do you think the department lets blue-shirts act as desk sergeants?
You have one man in that WATCH COMMANDER’S OFFICE that can supervise the ever shrinking number of officers assigned to the station.
When officers come in with arrests the street sergeants are supposed to supervise and assist.
So if you like.
Just keep thinking like the typical Obama-like democrats who think this city will NEVER go belly-up and not give you a paycheck one day.
BECAUSE THAT DAY IS COMING REAL SOON.
By the way, I know you be just as upset with me if I told you I was taking away you "take home" cars.
5 new inspectors--- I hope that they didn't bring in big bird as a consultant to train these new inspectors---
Not only can the city get rid of desk sergeants, they could try to dump ALL SWORN officers out of the station during the next contract.
Pay a Civilian slug $40,000 @ year to work the desk.
Would it suck?
Would they be incompetent?
Would they be shit-head criminals?
YES
YES and
YES
Do you think this mayor give a damn?
HELL NO!!!!
It's all about money.
WAKE UP!!!
The future is here.
The city is broke.
Before you think you should get rid of the desk sergeant, sit in his chair some day in a busy district and see exactly what he does. If you do the job right,
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What is your point???
The BOTTOM line is the dick-mayor would rather pay someone less pay no matter how much work they do.
To: A 28 Year Sergeant said...
I highly doubt you were ever the police, at least not in Chicago.
A Desk Sergeant supervises every Police Officer that walks in the door of the station,
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Does the "acting / PO desk sergeant" supervise?
NO
Almost half the desk sergeants in the city on any given day are "acting /P.O.s"
It is a WASTE of money to have a supervisor on the desk making $100,000 @ year to me.
The W/C can supervise the 6 P.O.s assigned to the station.
Street sergeants are responsible for the P.O.s that come into the district with arrests/reports etc.
If any of you people ever worked in the the REAL WORLD and ran a business you would soon go OUT of business fast.
hey 546 AM...
. Retire already so some of the more deserving and capable can get made off the list sooner than later.
- 011 regularly acting desk sergeant
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YUP
It’s all about the "One - Way" mentality of many coppers like yourself.
You want to keep getting YOUR out of grade pay and you want to be made SERGEANT yourself so you can make MORE money.
It is all understandable to be upset about losing both however the bottom line is there is hardly any supervisory actions that take place by the desk sergeant or to say the least, the acting P.O., just a TON and a half of work.
That is well understandable.
If any of you can name any supervisory actions that the desk sergeant does on a daily basis please name it.
What little there is can be picked up by the watch commander and the 2 or 3 sergeants who SHOULD be assigned to the street EVERY day.
cpd still has court sergeants , that assignment should be civilians , court sgt and police officers never worked an 8 hour day.
Roll Calls are mostly bullshit spinning and throwing around kool-ade from the puzzle palace(Main Reason for retiring). I get that. But if your guys on days don't know that there was a Police shooting on Bt XYZ on 1st watch and some dude is looking for revenge, and no one on 2nd watch knew about it...WTF?
That's just my 2 pennies
TBJG
8/12/2011 02:39:00
Thanks retired boss for speaking the truth after you have retired. I do believe that while you were here you were up 35th sts ass and going along with their bullshit ideas and not backing the troops. And in my 20 years of attending bullshit roll calls it is very rare that the w/cs pass along any info about anything that has happened on previous watches to the on coming watch. Most roll calls go like this: call attendance, bitch at the one guy who is one minute late for the first time in 10 years, while saying nothing to the butt fucks that are 10-15 minutes late everyday, next bitch about how the commander yelled at you for low activity and demand the troops get useless event numbers and write more tickets, next you tell everyone no time due because we are short handed(unless you write tickets and get useless event numbers), then maybe add some bullshit war story about how you used to do it while working those mean streets(and we find out you never worked the streets because you were clouted and taken care of your whole careen), then told to go out and get 'em as you go into the office and watch netflix, check personal e-mail, and surf the net from a department computer. Wow boss I feel so enlightened by your wisdom and my morale is so high now!!!!!
Hey moron with the "scoop" about 008 district Tac Lt. missing the meeting. 860 is training in Virginia, and yes 800 knew. Idiot
8/12/2011 08:01:00 PM
008 tact LT is on approved leave to the FBINA in Washington
8/13/2011 05:05:00 AM
Ok make up your mind. If you are going to defend his whereabouts, at least know where he is at.
Hey everybody, there are no NEW inspectors. Trahanas is there at her SES rank of captain. There are three lts., Sadowski, Pascua and Judon. According to the captains contract, if any one of the three lts. are in the field as field inspectors, the captains have a big time grievance. How about a captain stand up and grieve. It is about time that these friggin idiots downtown realize that there are contracts, legal obligations, that they must follow. They just can't do whatever they want. Are you listening McGoofy??????
Anonymous said...
Was that ryan co in court section during sos court scandal
8/12/2011 01:46:00 PM
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Yeah it is...
Rumor has it he is still looking for revenge for someone tampering with his golf ball back in the day...
LOL... we ran it over at the SOS outing in 1997 or 98...it was funny....
JAGBAG rode up on us without yelling "FORE" almost took our heads off...He's in a hurry during an outing with nowhere to go. Sort of like his career...
DIPSHIT!
So we buried it with the golf cart running it over several times before he came over the horizon to see us...
and then as he approached to find his ball he had to explain to his gambling buddies that "there is NO WAY that my ball fell into this hole the size of the ball its been sabotaged" ....(the thing was about maybe a 1/4 exposed with his mark showing purposely so his buddie knew it was his..too fucking funny)
He cheated! Didnt play it!
He didn't hit it from there he pulled it out...too funny wish we had it on camera watching him scramble to blame someone and make his case like he is some ace golfer then watching him act all LEGIT!
Like Judge Schmeils from Caddyshack!
Dude its a CPD outing (handicaps 200) not the MASTERS....
Old 153
"Is everyone here? Okay, Now go get your coffee. One more day closer to retirement and I don't give a shit about anything"
8/12/2011 05:55:00 AM
You are, indeed, a credit to your rank.
When there are multiple PO's performing, who is in charge? If you answer an actor, you should immediately transfer to the building where your theories can be kept from doing some real harm.
OT: So last week the Commander of 002 was on the hot seat at the "Comcast" meeting. He noted that his contact cards went from 184 during this period last year to over 730 for the same period this year. McNutty then asks how many resulted in warrant arrests. A total of 7 arrests were made. He wants to know if this is normal. One arrest per 100 contacts? No one says a word. So he says it sounds fishy.
This week it is E Washington's turn. His contact cards are over 1000 in the last period, This time, the new "Comcast" guy CM asks him how many of those cards were run for warrants to which EW says that all were run over PDT or on the air. CM then pulls out a pile of papers and says that they took a sampling of his contact cards and found at least 4 warrants. Tells EW that this time he gets a pass but that in the future, the bosses will be held accountable for any warrants they find. He said that Commanders need to know what their "Cops" are doing out there and that if they are just getting contact cards to get numbers, that will not do. Again, not one boss stood up and said, "hey, that's how we do it here." You want cards generated, we will generate them but now you want name checks on each one, that will take for ever. Expect the numbers to go down.
Someone needs to explain to the new guys how Chicago does things so they can get off the high horse they rode in on. All these changes that they said needed to be made are not going to happen without the approval of the REAL people running things, the reverends, Mayor and politicians. Business as usual.
When officers come in with arrests the street sergeants are supposed to supervise and assist.
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It is so obvious that NONE of the people posting here about sergeants and desk sergeants are actually sergeante, and if you are, you really aren't!!!
Expect the numbers to go down.
Someone needs to explain to the new guys how Chicago does things so they can get off the high horse they rode in on. All these changes that they said needed to be made are not going to happen without the approval of the REAL people running things, the reverends, Mayor and politicians. Business as usual.
thats why when I generate a contact card I stop people like, John Smith... Oh supt, you say there is no record on file of john smith? Well, he didnt have ID and showed to have no arrest and claimed he had never been arrested. f/i conducted and released. Prove it Gmac that I never stopped john smith and prove to me that john smith doesnt exist. Is it falsifying a police document.. Ummm, if you can actually prove it(impossible). Maybe dude lied about his name and I just didnt catch it just make sure that your car and that gps unit is in the place and time you specify on your contact card... either way, one more contact card in the pile to make my night a little easier.... 19P. Work smarter, not harder.
When officers come in with arrests the street sergeants are supposed to supervise and assist.
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It is so obvious that NONE of the people posting here about sergeants and desk sergeants are actually sergeante, and if you are, you really aren't!!!
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Then who do you think handles their TRRs, IODs, vehicle damage reports you dumbass?
Go back to the academy kid.
When officers come in with arrests the street sergeants are supposed to supervise and assist.
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It is so obvious that NONE of the people posting here about sergeants and desk sergeants are actually sergeante, and if you are, you really aren't!!!
lol, who is this idiot who wrote this ? i going to shi* hold on supervisor please supervise. you must be kidding another recruit.
@0955
When I stop anyone I do a contact and run name on pdt or over air. Perhaps those 4 had warrants issued after they were stopped.
008th district Tact Lt didnt show.... 008 commander ordered to put him back on the watch and find someone else
Bullshit he's at school. Stop posting shit you know nothing about
Ryan may have a HUGE EGO but he was an upgrade compared to Lt. Oakes who replaced Rayn as CO of the court section. Oakes going away party was athe the phone booth in Beverly Woods!
Are you listening McGoofy??????
8/13/2011 02:54:00 PM
McJOKE will just waive his wand and newly-minted captain's bars will magically appear on Sadowski, Pascua and Judon. Do you think he would launch the three and bring in three tenured captains? If you do, you haven't been schooled in the CPD solutions handbook! Ha!
"Down Town" Ernie Brown
8/12/2011 09:08:00 AM
You are an idiot. Tell the truth. You know very well it stands for Defense Transportation Ehancement Boundaries (DTEB), a system employed for the rallying and the most efficient motorized tactical response of on-duty and off-duty personnel to planned, instigated, incited and/or announced gatherings on monitored social networks for the purposes of forming crminally-purposed flash mobs and crminally-purposed wildings within the boundaries of the city of Chicago, especially with the Central Business District (CBD). Why try to hide it? It is the brainchild of our very own Chief Brown and he deserves all the credit for his forward-thinking. The guy is one, smart cookie.
Anonymous said...
Are you listening McGoofy??????
8/13/2011 02:54:00 PM
McJOKE will just waive his wand and newly-minted captain's bars will magically appear on Sadowski, Pascua and Judon. Do you think he would launch the three and bring in three tenured captains? If you do, you haven't been schooled in the CPD solutions handbook! Ha!
8/14/2011 12:28:00 PM
There is an old saying; "Keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you are an idiot or open it and prove it."
Enough said.
can we get some exempt, any exempt, who used to be the real police?.....bueller?
Any PO should try and be Desk Sgt for a week and you will be begging to get back to your Beat Car.
end of story
Merit cloutorious rank of captain should be eliminated
most of current captains never passed the sgt or lt test
mccarthy doesn't have a clue
wait and see what shields rank will be in a few months
it's the chicago /washington dc way
Just so folks are clear about this "Black vs White Commander re: Black vs White Districts" - depending upon the makeup/the actual District in question, middle class/working class African Americans could give a rat's ass who is the District Commander. Their primary concern is how effective that commander is in reducing the number of violent and property crimes, "quality of life" issues in that District. The focus should be on the background, education, class of the residents, not the color of their skin. People with a reasonable amount of education don't get hung up in the issue of race in relation to the services they are entitled to as tax paying citizens.
There is an old saying; "Keep your mouth shut and let everyone think you are an idiot or open it and prove it."
Enough said.
8/14/2011 09:33:00 PM
You are in denial. A "Chicago fix" is hardly an absurd, unlikely or a secret solution. Or do you think they wouldn't have thought of it, if left to their own musings? If so, you are the idiot.
No desk Sgt.? Interesting. 90% of the time in 020 on the second watch a P.o is the desk Sgt. They can't even approve reports.
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