Obligation?
Mayor Rahm Emanuel today said the city has an obligation to pay for former Mayor Richard Daley’s legal defense if he is sued for alleged police brutality conspiracies that happened under former Chicago police Cmdr. Jon Burge.
The city will not, however, run up unnecessary legal bills to defend Daley or Burge, Emanuel said.
“We’re not going to be reckless and let the meter run legally,” Emanuel said.
Really? Why don't we stop this one before it even starts then.
Who was Daley working for when all of this allegedly occurred? Does Rahm even remember Daley's title at the time?
Who was Daley working for when all of this allegedly occurred? Does Rahm even remember Daley's title at the time?
- Cook County State's Attorney
Chicago wasn't employing him at the time, nor signing his checks. So what the hell is Rahm doing promising to pay for Daley's alleged actions?
(we realize that living in Chicago, we're also paying Cook County bills, but Rahm shouldn't be spending scarce Chicago money on bills that Cook County should be covering)
(we realize that living in Chicago, we're also paying Cook County bills, but Rahm shouldn't be spending scarce Chicago money on bills that Cook County should be covering)
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
152 Comments:
I believe the question is what he knew about the deal when he was mayor, not when he was states attorney.
He's exempt from lawsuits for his time as states attorney.
Nice to see him named, nonetheless!
If im not nistaken he can't be sued for when he was working for the count as states attorney. They are exempt along with judges. He is being sued for allegedly covering this up when he was Mayor.
Daley is ensuring that the suits with his name on it get settled out of court quickly and quietly. If the county was fighting this case and representing daley then it might mean a trial and depositions for daley... Daley will not do any of this because he does not want to get locked into anything on paper, especially when the ball gets rolling on all of these cases. They will get swept away. I predict daley wont have to do any depositions...even though if a case gets settled its usually after depositions are done and discovery is done..watch for this to end quick... I sure wish all of my lawsuits could have ended that quick. Instead ive waited years and gone though countless depositions and motions just to have them settled 4 years later..... this city is pointless
.....Rahm shouldn't be spending scarce Chicago money on bills that Cook County should be covering.....
RIGHT ON SCC!!!!!
He worked for the County and NOT the city. Maybe he can ask Anita Alvarez ot Tony Preckwinkle to pick up the check?????
More payback for Daley for letting RE be mayor. But we get fucked for the bill.
OT...
Can anybody recommend any ranges to go practice with an M4. I've been trying to get in to Area 5 the past 3 weeks and they always tell me they've got classes or there's no time available. If you're 5 minutes late for a zeroing class they'll cancel it, so what are they doing with the other 3 hours 55 minutes? This is very frustrating so any help would be appreciated.
When's the city gonna cut off the ex-mayors body guards and drivers so that we can give that money to the schools or add more coppers on the streets?
It just goes on and on into perpetuity...like the aldermen nonsense!
They may already have figured out that most of the people who live in greater Cook County will raise holy hell about having to foot the bill for Richard the Second's failings.
Emanuel figures the hue and cry will be less if he simply offers to cover Daley's expenses.
So, what are we up to now? How much of Daley's expenses are we covering? About half a million a year for five chauffeurs, another sixty or seventy thousand a year in vehicles and gas, and now hundreds of thousands a year in legal fees.
Better tighten the belt some more, taxpaying citizens of Chicago, because the Daley welfare checks will have to be covered by more cost-cutting somewhere...
I was thinking the same thing
Oh -- and since when does the Mayor run around like the wing commander in 12 O'Clock High, "comforting and issuing condolences to victims of gun violence?" Is he the City Chaplain now?
New one on me.
It's called the pay off for Daley to keep his mouth shut. Watch and see how many times he takes the
5th
It's all about using the poor as tools to exploit the middle class for taxes.
Take this state tuition program for example.
Now you know why everyone is an honor student. If you kick out the kids with the zero point zero grade averages some elite members of society are going to lose funding or perhaps their jobs.. This is so bullshit!! You can only wonder how may were illegal immigrants too cheating a US citizen out of his/her chances to make it.
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Hundreds of Chicago State University students received state financial aid even though their grades were so low that they shouldn’t have been allowed to enroll at the university, according to testimony Wednesday at a state hearing.
The state audit commission hearing comes after the Tribune reported last month that the South Side public university intentionally allowed failing students to remain in school to boost its enrollment numbers.
Sen. Edward Maloney, D-Chicago, chair of the Senate Higher Education Committee, revealed that 449 students during 2008-2009, who should have been dismissed for poor academic performance based on university policy, received state financial aid given to needy students.
Of those students, 106 had a grade point average of 0.0 and still received financial aid from the taxpayer-funded Monetary Award Program, known as MAP.
“This is a serious, serious situation that I really think has to be addressed,” Maloney said. “The fact that people were getting the money who were making no progress and keeping it from people who could have used it … is a tragedy.”
more >> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-hundreds-who-got-aid-at-chicago-state-should-not-have-been-enrolled-20110810,0,4546245.story
First, Emanuel says he's OK with spending taxpayer money to defend the biggest crook Chicago has known since Al Capone. Then in the same breath he says he believes that Jon Burge should lose his pension for being convicted of allegedly lying about a crime that happened during his employ with the CPD.
Will Rahm express the same sentiments when the former 5th Floor greasy bastard is convicted? Will he cite fiscal ethics and responsibility, championing the best interests of the Chicago/Cook County taxpayer by saying Dick Daley's State's Attorney's pension should be yanked? No. No, he won't. He'll do what the POTUS and the POTUS's little Chief of Staff birdie Bill Daley tell him to do.
"We're not going to be reckless and let the meter run legally," Emanuel said. Sure Rahm, whatever you say. Meanwhile, the taxpayer-funded meter keeps right on running full speed, providing armed butlers and chauffeurs around the clock to that piece of shit predecessor of yours.
There's a special place in Hell for all of you cocksuckers.
The mayor had "prosecutorial immunity" while with the CCSAO. The subsequent leap to the leader of Chicago is the time that the other team is zeroing in on, the target being once again - huge legal bills paid for by - US.
No, Rahm is not nuts. Rahm is actually extremely intelligent and shrewd!
Rahm knows enough NOT to do anything dumb, and publicly, or privately piss off Daley.
Do you think that just because Daley “retired”, Daley’s power “retired” too? Daley is still a very powerful man. A man that can help one’s or hurt one’s shot at getting into the White House.
Bullshit on the city obligation!
Daley has to explain why he didn't take action after Dick Brzeczek wrote Daley a letter regarding alleged police torturing in A/2. This took place when Daley was COOK COUNTY State's Attorney. Let Perwinkle make the decision.
Daley has immunity covering his time as State's Attorney. He is not immune for his time as Mayor, during which it will be alleged that he participated in cover-ups/obstruction of justice....
SCC, I applaud you for being the FIRST major news/gossip outlet to point this out! Not one
major news agency has said anything about
WHERE Daley was working when this Burge
mess actually started hitting the fan many many
years ago, and WHICH Govt. agency was signing
his checks! Let Preckwinkle sort out Daley's obligational mess, NOT the City of Chicago.
And does it also stand to reason that since
our illustrious Supt. of CPD at that time
(Richard Breczek, sorry if the last name isn't
spelled correctly) actually notified then CCSA
Daley by letter about the allegations against
Burge, asking Daley for guidance on how to
deal with the matter, does this also place
our then-Supt. 'on the hook' as well? It's
going to be interesting to see how this
continues to be sorted out with regard to
who knew what, and failed to act on the info
at hand during the time the alleged abuses
occurred.
Rahm is kissing the ring of Mummbles.
Mayor Chutzpah covering the ass of former Mayor Mumbles? Is anyone surprised to see this? And just how does 9.5 fingers plan to keep the legal fees down?
With the hordes on incompetent hacks hiding in plain sight at the Corporation Council's office, I'm sure that somewhere down the line another tax increase will be necessary to cover another huge payout to the 'victims' of the alleged abuses.
I am pretty sure that payment for the defense should be Cook County - not the city.
If he was state's attorney at the time of the alleged torture of prisoners, he should be covered by the county - NOT the city.
Then again, this is Chicago where they make up the rules as they go.
Why wouldn't the Crime Family pay for the legal defense of the godfather?
That's how it works, isn't it?
And I have an obligation to NEVER, EVER vote for these f'n criminal Democrats again!
I've been out of town. What's going on w/Daley?
When I read that story yesterday I rolled my eyes upward so hard I didn't think they would come back down. But, they are getting a good workout of late with all the BS.
--No Cop Here
I believe that the accusation is that while Daley was Mayor he tried covering the fact that during the time he worked for the county Burge tortured his victims. In other words he covered up the facts while he was Mayor. I don't believe they are saying that while he was States Attorney he did anything wrong. The accusation is that while he was Mayor he tried covering up for Burge. This was revealed during the ex commanders trial. Just saying.
Doesnt he work for a law Firm?
These people really do live in a bubble. This is ridiculous.
---not a cop
As an ASA, he's immune from being sued, so the attorneys are basing the suit on the time he was mayor, not as an ASA.
Good point SCC. Why duidnt the media pick up on this error?
If we are OBLIGATED to provide legal representation then we should provide him with the lowest paid public defender. If he wants something/someone else, let him pay for it.
Obligation? Obligation will be when the city allows dumped ex-Deputy Superintendent Michael Shields to return to CPD effective Monday, 15 August 2011 and he is placed back in an Exempt role, having access to all the young un suspecting police women on this job. This guy is a walking debt to the city. Oh, but I keep forgetting. We must look past that. He is some kin to the President of the United States.
Don't forget Exempts, he bragged with retired lazy ass Captain Glombicki who is more stupid than Tony Carothers and Eddie Welch put together. He also made it clear that if he made Superintendent, he would dump the vast majority of everyone and replace them with the likes of AWOP King Captain Terry Williams and Commander Chris Fletcher. Enough said! By the way, how much time did that Captain get? Also, how can he still hold that rank with his back ground. Isn't that an appointed position!
Different topic but I noticed today the commissioner for CFD, which is their Supt for those who dont know, doesnt have drivers carting him around like a foreign dignitary. Commissioner Hoff was washing his own city vehicle at the car wash, do you think McCarthy would do that? All this talk about making cuts, why does CPD Supt need drivers to cart him and his daughter around on the tax payers dime?
You have a good point there. He was not employed by the City of Chicago then.
They're saying that after he made mayor he conspired with others to cover-up all brutality allegations. Now that puts the City taxpayers responsible for paying his fees. With regards to the actual alleged acts before he was mayor, he is exempt since states attorneys cannot be sued or held accountable unless they really mess up.
Well the Ballerina has give the devil his due. How do you think he got elected, the Revs. Da Mayo.
Rahmass wouldn't be saying that if it was a eletion year. Your right cook county should be paying that bill.
You have to ask if Rahm is nuts??
The County should pay the bills if RMD was SA at the time of the alledged occurrance.
Maybe this happened when Rahm wasn't a resident and he just doesn't rmember! hahahaha
Daley is named in the lawsuit as both Mayor and State's Attorney and the allegations say he ignored reports of the abuse during the time period he served in both positions, which is why the city is on the hook. The county obviously should share in these expenses.
Daley has some type of protection from law suits while cook county state's attorney. He is being deposed for what he did as mayor, and for that the city does have an obligation to represent him. However, you and I know that once he sits down at the dep, they will go back to his days as a prosecutor. He cannot refuse to answer questions, his attorney might object, but he will have to answer, under oath. But, I do not believe that he will ever sit for a deposition on this matter. The city will stall and then settle the case and pay out.
rahm also said he was going to go after burge's pension also---
And if Daley wasn't involved Rahm would say Burge was on the hook for his own legal expenses. Remember this when your called down to corp-counsel. The city will look for any way to distance themselves from you and say your on your own.
Rahm was probably living in the burbs when Daley was Burge's boss as State's Attorney of Cook County,so he probably does not know. And as much as I detest Mr. Taylor bringing Daley into this litigation is valid. Corruption swirled about the Daley Administration for almost twenty years, and Daley the micro-manager claims to know nothing. He got away with that lie at City Hall, but he should be held accountable for his lies at the State's Attorney Office.
OT...
Can anybody recommend any ranges to go practice with an M4.
8/11/2011 12:11:00 AM
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Here's a list of Illinois gun ranges. Don't know if it'll help you....
http://www.usacarry.com/forums/illinois-discussion-firearm-news/4473-list-illinois-gun-ranges.html
He's setting precedent\
so when he gets indicted down the line he gets city coverage
Rahm is fucking stupid. The city is struggling as it is.
Anonymous said...
OT...
Can anybody recommend any ranges to go practice with an M4. I've been trying to get in to Area 5 the past 3 weeks and they always tell me they've got classes or there's no time available. If you're 5 minutes late for a zeroing class they'll cancel it, so what are they doing with the other 3 hours 55 minutes? This is very frustrating so any help would be appreciated.
8/11/2011 12:11:00 AM
Try this, take a zeroing class and show up 5 minutes early instead of 5 minutes late. In fact, try showing up early for all firearms classes. That way you won't have to go on the blog and complain how they shut you out when you show up late with your dick in your hand.
Anonymous said...
I've been out of town. What's going on w/Daley?
8/11/2011 06:09:00 AM
He is being considered for the Nobel peace prize on account of his high intelligence level. Also, he is being studied by the University of Chicago School of Higher Economics for almost singlehandedly turning a well financed properly run large American City into a bankrupt crime ridden fiasco that will soon rival Detroit for monumental collapses.
The Tribune article is misleading.
From what I heard, the lawsuit alleges that while mayor, Daley received a report of the abuse and dismissed it, effectively covering it up. Daley is trying to argue that they are referring to events that occurred while as States Attorney and that he has immunity from being deposed. It's really a matter of proving who knew what and when they knew it.
Our big reward for working in 007 is that our moron commander put a letter out saying that 1st and 3rd watch must have all beat cars, both wagons, and 4 rapids up and 10-4 every night and good luck getting a saturday off. We had plenty of manpower but our ads commander created a cta mission team, all black by the way except a chosen few, and a abandoned buildings team...so those of us not special enought can't get a day off now. And the kicker is that the useless cta team, who were all dogs now all of a sudden they are the real police, have set saturdays and sundays off......way to fuck all the workers on 007 once again carothers, you truly do suck. And the best part is the guy who just got off probation is on this great cta mission team.
8/09/2011 08:40:00 PM
Here it is in a nutshell. Carothers has been flamed at how many Comstats about his shootings? Shootings! Now, he puts a whole team on the CTA because people are getting their phones taken.
Yet, there he is in the Commander's office. If he stays, the Superintendent is screaming that he is not in control of his Department. So who is? Who pulls the strings Mr Superintendent?
He is covered by "absolute immunity" for his time as Cook County State's Attorney and therefore cannot be sued for anything that occurred during that period of time. He is not covered by that same "absolute immunity" for anything that he may have done during his tenure as Mayor.
Rahm really doesn't have a choice. With a few exceptions, given that as Mayor, he was an employee of the City of Chicago, the City is obligated to fund his defense just as the City has to fund the defense of police officers or other city employees when they are sued for conduct occurring in the course of their employment.
The Sun-quirer tries to make it sound like it was Rahm's choice and it just simply is not.
As an ASA, he's immune from being sued, so the attorneys are basing the suit on the time he was mayor, not as an ASA.
8/11/2011 06:46:00 AM
You........ are a dumb-fuck!
Daley has more money and stole more money to the sum of which is can't even imagine. Even dummy Rahm has stated to the public that this city was sold/lease out and its money mismanaged for a decade so with that said, how can this city turn around and give Daley a single penny more. Bullshit!!
Let him represent himself, he is a lawyer right?
You mean to say I commit a crime as a police officer then become the president of what ever and my crime is what I knew in my new office....this is all the biggest bullshit I've ever heard....I thought this Rahm was suppose to be smart......!
As an ASA, he's immune from being sued, so the attorneys are basing the suit on the time he was mayor, not as an ASA.
8/11/2011 06:46:00 AM
Ok, well now he is a citizen. Let the thieving bastard pay for his own legal fees. I, as well as many other taxpayers are tired of paying for this mans constant fuck ups, pet projects and just pure thieving and taking care of "others." When will it end with him and his families immunity from the law (theft, murder etc etc). Fuck you Daley you ruined this city and the lives of many in this town.
He can't be sued as Cook County State's Attorney they're immune. He's being sued about what he allegedly knew as Mayor.
does this also place
our then-Supt. 'on the hook' as well?
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The CCSA would be the appropriate person to refer such a situation to. I can't see how he completely escape responsibility for failing to supervise his department, but it is not like he had any power to prosecute anyone for anything.
As a practical matter, what is he going to do? The result of any CPD investigation of alleged misconduct by a CPD member is never going to be trusted by anyone outside the department.
I think he did the best thing he could under the circumstances.
I have to wonder why Daley and the rest of the powers that were at the time chose not to have a serious invesitgation of this whole mess. maybe they thought it was just better to cover it up as best they could as most incidents of this type were.
Does this point to an ongoing conspiricy?
I believe that the accusation is that while Daley was Mayor he tried covering the fact that during the time he worked for the county Burge tortured his victims. In other words he covered up the facts while he was Mayor. I don't believe they are saying that while he was States Attorney he did anything wrong. The accusation is that while he was Mayor he tried covering up for Burge. This was revealed during the ex commanders trial. Just saying.
Read today's Kass column. Kass also points out that Daley was first informed of the alleged abuses while he was CCSA. He might have carried over the 'curtain' to the city as Chicago's Mayor in the early 90's, but he first ignored the problem when he was the County's top prosecutor. Let Preckwinkle deal with it, the coverup started there first!
A bunch of mutton heads concoct a story sitting in the joint now we pay over lies
Off topic:
Ryan is the new Commander of 004?
Rousell is the new Commander of 024? Brings the term
'recycling' to a whole new level!
Phil Schitz here said...
Bullshit on the city obligation!
Daley has to explain why he didn't take action after Dick Brzeczek wrote Daley a letter regarding alleged police torturing in A/2. This took place when Daley was COOK COUNTY State's Attorney. Let Perwinkle make the decision.
8/11/2011 01:48:00 AM
Breczek was Police Superintendent when he sent that letter to Daley.
Why didn't he deal with Burge?
I've always wondered who was Burge's clout. The man moved up in the department at Huberman like speeds. Was Breczek, who was little more than a glorified clerk, scared to take on Burge himself?
Breczek also has a huge axe to grind with Daley since he ran against him in 84 for States Attorney and later Daley unsuccessfully prosecuted Breczek for hiring his flight attendant girlfriend as a "decorator/designer" for the police department.
Now Flint Taylor's interest is finding out what Daley knew around 1992 when he had been Mayor for 3 years and the Burge stuff was just hitting the fan. Burge was forced out in 1993.
I will venture a guess that former Mayor Daley's answers will involve variations of "I don't remember" for the deposition.
As far as I'm concerned Daley, Breczek, Burge AND Flint Taylor should be used to clean up the Japanese nuclear facilities.
Like we are "obligated" to pay for daleys 2 city vehicles 1 copper on daleys detail with different title getting commanders pay and pension! Daley has how many guys still with him? is it 6-12?? all the rest getting D-3 security specialist pay and all that easy overtime!
Duhhhh, ummm I'm uhh gonna continue to vote democratic too.
SCC, pat yourself on the back.
I sent your "Media Bias Again" post to a friend who works for Bill O'Reilly and suggested it would be good for his "Did You See That?" segment. It was used last night! CONGRATS.
Sorry, but I could not find a link.
So many comments here assume Burge was guilty of torture. Burge was never convicted of torturing anyone. Comments on this page also don't tie into the latest news about the Innocence Project and David Protess, that he lied, broke the law and bought of testimony in cases to get evidence to free so called innocent convicts. Evidence was also presented at the Burge trial that the Peoples Law Office did the same thing against Burge. Clearly there was some abuse against Andrew Wilson in 1982, but he had just murdered two police officers during a month in which four officers were shot, three murdered all by a collection of sociopaths who knew each other and were wrecking havoc on the south side. Look at the evidence against Burge in the Wilson case. It's not very convincing.
"Phil Schitz here said...
"Bullshit on the city obligation!
Daley has to explain why he didn't take action after Dick Brzeczek wrote Daley a letter regarding alleged police torturing in A/2. This took place when Daley was COOK COUNTY State's Attorney. Let Perwinkle make the decision."
To you and SCC both. I can't believe you are so ignorant on this matter. Don't you think if the attys thought they had a chance to collect from the County they would? The law allows for immunity for Daley for decisions he made as State's Attorney. They're not wasting their time there. I think the case against him as Mayor is a reach though.
"As an ASA, he's immune from being sued, so the attorneys are basing the suit on the time he was mayor, not as an ASA."
Just to be clear--Daley was not an ASA (Assistant State's Attorney) at the time of the Burge problems, he was THE State's Attorney of Cook County.(SA) I'm always amused at how many people on here refer to Daley, Devine, and Alvarez as the "ASA" It's like referring to McCarthy as "Deputy Superintendent" or something.
Question ? I understand that the states attorney and assistant states attorney's can not be held liable for cases they bring to trail. I am okay with that. This is a different issue. These were cases in which the defendants accused the police of torture. They accused the police of forcing them to confess to crimes they did not commit. The states attorney at the time was Daley. As I understand it, he refused to investigate these alligations, or covered them up. He then went on to prosecute these defendants. Is not that an issue he, and his office can be held liable for ?
maybe , but city of chicago taxpayers have No Obligation to provide private citizens richie and maggie with 5 police officers making over $100k each and 2 unmarked police cars for their private use , Andy Shaw should look into this .
Most neighborhoods don't have 1 police car on patrol.
Will Rahm express the same sentiments when the former 5th Floor greasy bastard is convicted?
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He's being sued, not charged.
Of course you're paying the bill....Did you expect something else??? BTW property taxes are going up as well. More money for dumber students. Have you seen your water bill lately? Have you renewed licence plates lately?
Makes you feel so good about that 1 percent raise dont it? I'm sure Rahm will raise the city sticker rates next year, he just didnt have time to do it this year.
Just relax...you government will let you know how much they need...
But come contract time, the greedy, shiftless, no-good police department will be portrayed as money grubbers threatening the fiscal health of the city's coffers. Does any of this really surprise you officers out there? Just like whomever is chosen to be Stupidintendent. Do you really think he has any real decision making powers. McNo-nuts is a eunuch, a very well paid eunuch. Let's all just shut up and keep taking bullets from these fucking animals whose very existence we support when we pay taxes. Fuck the politicians, the enabling media fuckers and lastly the "community" that cries foul and pulls out the race card at every opportunity except when called upon to better themselves through personal responsibility. Rant and sarcasm off. God bless all of you driving the cars with the funny blue and white paint job.
How does one retain their license to practice law, and work for a local law firm, if these allegation are proven by a preponderance of the evidence ?
"You can only wonder how may were illegal immigrants too cheating a US citizen out of his/her chances to make it."
An internal CSU study conducted last year shows illegal immigrants actually have academic standards and tend to stay away from cosmic vacuums like Chicago State U.
Daley has to explain why he didn't take action after Dick Brzeczek wrote Daley a letter regarding alleged police torturing in A/2. This took place when Daley was COOK COUNTY State's Attorney. Let Perwinkle make the decision.
8/11/2011 01:48:00 AM
-Hasn't BRZECZEK been working for the Loevy firm?
-How many of these "torture" allegations are already documented as complete fabrications to extort money from the taxpayers?
-How many of the alleged "victims" had extensive records of violent crimes and therefore NO credibility?
-How many convicted murderers walk the street on TECHNICALITIES brought to light by these 'innocence projects'?
-How many young coeds were offered to these animals as "treats" by professors that ran these projects and craved the limelight? (Your daughters are safe now, they fired him....he got a nice payout, though)
Who would you the taxpayer rather see in jail, these alleged "victims" or the police officers that brought them to justice often at great peril?
It's your tax dollars the attorneys are taking.
I would love to serve on that jury. I would knit that fat aristo a proper shroud. Madame DeFarge, Paris 1779, "A Tale of Two Cities."
Question: If Shorty were brought to trail, would he demand a change of venue?
After all, everyone in Chicago knows he guilty, of something, a lot of things.
Crook County is obligated to pay Daley's legal bills, NOT Crookago. Daley did not work for the City at the time of all this...
Enough with Daley clan ripping this city off!!!
Have Daley pay his own legal defense with his political war chest fund, which in the millions, before asking for any of our tax dollars.
Oh -- and since when does the Mayor run around like the wing commander in 12 O'Clock High, "comforting and issuing condolences to victims of gun violence?" Is he the City Chaplain now?
New one
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Dude are you that big of a Jagoff, the girl was 6 years old sleeping in her grandmothers house...show some fucking compassion.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT...
Can anybody recommend any ranges to go practice with an M4. I've been trying to get in to Area 5 the past 3 weeks and they always tell me they've got classes or there's no time available. If you're 5 minutes late for a zeroing class they'll cancel it, so what are they doing with the other 3 hours 55 minutes? This is very frustrating so any help would be appreciated.
8/11/2011 12:11:00 AM
Try going to the academy on 1st watch Monday to Friday or on Saturday's from 0900 to 1500 hours. Good luck. P.S.- Watch how some other poster will say something to this original poster like "you are idiot", "can't you fucking call the other ranges?", etc...
This is legal?????
Didn't the union have to pay for Burge because the city wouldn't?
A cell next to Ryan? Unfortunately, he will still receive all his phony pension checks!
The greedy crooked lawyers (Hass and Flint Taylor to name two) just want to get some more headlines to keep the pot boiling on this story. These scumbag lawyers are probably getting 40% of anything their "innocent clients" are getting from the city. That is indeed a big chunk of change. Burge & Co should all get medals for keeping the dirtbags they did off the streets. None of them are innocent.
Anonymous said...
It's all about using the poor as tools to exploit the middle class for taxes.
Take this state tuition program for example.
Now you know why everyone is an honor student. If you kick out the kids with the zero point zero grade averages some elite members of society are going to lose funding or perhaps their jobs.. This is so bullshit!! You can only wonder how may were illegal immigrants too cheating a US citizen out of his/her chances to make it.
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Hundreds of Chicago State University students received state financial aid even though their grades were so low that they shouldn’t have been allowed to enroll at the university, according to testimony Wednesday at a state hearing.
The state audit commission hearing comes after the Tribune reported last month that the South Side public university intentionally allowed failing students to remain in school to boost its enrollment numbers.
Sen. Edward Maloney, D-Chicago, chair of the Senate Higher Education Committee, revealed that 449 students during 2008-2009, who should have been dismissed for poor academic performance based on university policy, received state financial aid given to needy students.
Of those students, 106 had a grade point average of 0.0 and still received financial aid from the taxpayer-funded Monetary Award Program, known as MAP.
“This is a serious, serious situation that I really think has to be addressed,” Maloney said. “The fact that people were getting the money who were making no progress and keeping it from people who could have used it … is a tragedy.”
more >> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-hundreds-who-got-aid-at-chicago-state-should-not-have-been-enrolled-20110810,0,4546245.story
8/11/2011 12:38:00 AM
Exactly. So true.
TAX REVOLT
Can anybody recommend any ranges to go practice with an M4. I've been trying to get in to Area 5 the past 3 weeks and they always tell me they've got classes or there's no time available. If you're 5 minutes late for a zeroing class they'll cancel it, so what are they doing with the other 3 hours 55 minutes? This is very frustrating so any help would be appreciated.
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Dont be late stupid
Shortshanks will wet the bed when being deposed by a skilled attorney. That deposition would be great material for the comedy channel.
Different topic but I noticed today the commissioner for CFD, which is their Supt for those who dont know, doesnt have drivers carting him around like a foreign dignitary. Commissioner Hoff was washing his own city vehicle at the car wash, do you think McCarthy would do that? All this talk about making cuts, why does CPD Supt need drivers to cart him and his daughter around on the tax payers dime?
8/11/2011 07:17:00 AM
Duh, commish doesn't go around town attending community meetings, stop the violence marches an so on....
“This is a serious, serious situation that I really think has to be addressed,” Maloney said. “The fact that people were getting the money who were making no progress and keeping it from people who could have used it … is a tragedy"
Ha ha!!
I think that I've arrested a couple of those people.
"As an ASA, he's immune from being sued, so the attorneys are basing the suit on the time he was mayor, not as an ASA.
8/11/2011 06:46:00 AM
You........ are a dumb-fuck!"
No, Sir or Madam, That poster is mistaken, (Not a dumb fuck) about Daley being an ASA. He was THE State's Attorney.(SA) However, the other poster is right, and it is you, Mr. Dumb Fuck, who is the dumb fuck. Daley is immune for his conduct as State's Attorney. Why do you think the bottom feeder Plaintiff lawyers are suing the City for his conduct as Mayor? He is immune and the County can't be liable for his actions as SA.
Quit being jealous of the soon to be back Michael Shields, he is a very good boss and was well liked by those he supervised.............as for the all black CTA team in 007, there have been all white teams on CPD since the beginning of time but I guess that was ok, huh?????
Try this, take a zeroing class and show up 5 minutes early instead of 5 minutes late. In fact, try showing up early for all firearms classes. That way you won't have to go on the blog and complain how they shut you out when you show up late with your dick in your hand.
8/11/2011 08:51:00 AM
Yeah nice try ass. My rifle is already zeroed. I'm trying to practice with it.
Is it true, heard that 8 inspectors were made today and a female inspector was in 10 looking at vehicles
DALEY = Bigger Criminal than Burge ever was, by far. The wrong person is in prison.
DOESNT DALEY NOW WORK FOR A BIG TIME LAW FIRM?
HE WILL PLEAD THAT HE DOESNT RECALL EVERY TOUGH QUESTION.
Hoff was washing his own city vehicle at the car wash, do you think McCarthy would do that?
8/11/2011 07:17:00 AM
Do you mean he was actually washing the car himself or did you mean he drove the car to the carwash to have someone at the carwash wash it for him. If he was actually washing it himself then I might be impressed.
Off topic: McNutty's meeting with the Lts.
McNutty held his long awaited meeting with the Tact Lts. occurred to day at 1300 hrs. Lt. Mike Ryan from 022 didn't show. Three other Lts. didn't show either.
McNutty said that he is going to mix up the Cmdrs.
of all the districts, meaning a district in a white area
could wind up with a black Cmdr., and vice versa.
He also said he was going to expand the desk Sgt.
duties, meaning they will essentially run roll calls,
A & A sheets, etc., basically watch commander duties. 3 Street Deputy spots are going to be brought back. DTEB was there, but the Supt. asked him to leave, stating "it's just gonna be us (Supt. & Lts.) here for a while." The meeting lasted for about 90 minutes, and it wasn't a bad one. IT's just going to be really interesting to see how McNutty is going to integrate the commanders in the districts, as he is now living in one of the most segregated cities in North America. Good luck with THAT!
At the very least the county should split the cost of defending the most notorious chicago mob boss.
I now hate the city and state I once loved.
Oh -- and since when does the Mayor run around like the wing commander in 12 O'Clock High, "comforting and issuing condolences to victims of gun violence?" Is he the City Chaplain now?
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Dude are you that big of a Jagoff, the girl was 6 years old sleeping in her grandmothers house...show some fucking compassion.
8/11/2011 02:05:00 PM
Well said!!
Off topic, and I apologize for that, but I notice the Trib once again shut down its reader comment board at the tail end of the story about the shooting at 79th and Marquette. So I went to another Trib story (Felony Franks) and I posted this: "Hey, why did the Chicago Tribune block all reader comments on the story about the tragic death of Alfredo Cuellar Chavez at the store at 79th and Marquette? Why does the Tribune do this so often? Why is the Trib so disdainful of all its readers? Well, I guess I'll post my thoughts on the Second City Cop blog, as others do..."
Eff the Trib...
Rahm's decision is disgraceful, but not at all surprising. I trust that everyone understands he is entirely owned by Daley---except perhaps the downtown news media.
Rahm you are a one term Mayor my man. The entire working force in the City wants to dump your ass. If you dare spend one dime of tax payer money on Daley defense fund it will end your career as a politician. BTW....you are a stroke.
So by this fucked up logic what you are saying if anybody fucks up and commits some crime it should be the responsibility of his job/employer to cover legal fees. Fuck you Daley use the money that you stole from the taxpayers all these years and pay for your own damn legal fees. I'm tired of giving money to you and every other fucking criminal politician!!!! Enough already. And by the way you are a citizen just like me. I don't have bodyguards and city cars at my disposal. You were a measly mayor(a corrupt one at that) You are not royalty.
OT--
Anyone viewing the spectacle that takes place every night at the closing of the New York Stock Exchange, with bells frantically ringing as a crowd on a balcony stands and applauds the day's 400-point drop -- grinning and waving fraternity paddles, Frisbees, and other bizarre objects -- would be excused for concluding that this country has gone completely insane.
As an ASA, he's immune from being sued, so the attorneys are basing the suit on the time he was mayor, not as an ASA.
8/11/2011 06:46:00 AM
You........ are a dumb-fuck!
8/11/2011 09:16:00 AM
No you are the dumbfuck because what he/she stated is true. ASA's are immune so the only way to try to get him is for the knowledge while mayor. Still nothing will happen to the criminal fucker but at least it's a try.
My bad, 8/11/2011 at 1150 AM.
While I'd love to see "convicted" associated with anything Dick Daley, it should have been written "found liable"; my imagination and desires got the better of me. I stand corrected...
Either way, the sad reality to the whole thing is that he'll probably skate completely. Criminal misdeeds and civil fuckups seem to roll right off his back, as witnessed for over two decades now.
"I din-int know nuttin' 'bout any a dat!!", says 'Shanks.
Yes it is true there was a female inspecter in the 010th dist last week. She was checking name plates, stars and making sure everyone had a hat and beat tag. Stood at checkoff and checked everyone walking in.
Disclaimer: the following is my personal opinion, and does not represent the Department..
Of course Richard Daley will be "taken care of" by we the taxpayers, per Rahm, paying for Daley's legal defense, just as we will pay for Daley's unnecessary and morally unjustifiable police detail until he drops dead.
Men totally lacking in character, honor, honesty, integrity, and goodness are at the political helm in Chicago. We are stuck with them until they are kicked out of office by an enraged public. Until the majority of citizens wake up, and become indignant enough to throw these weasels out of office, we have no choice but to watch them make one morally bankrupt decision after another.
We also need a Department that is not connected to the very dirty and shameful politics of "The Chicago Way." John Kass is virtually a lone voice, documenting the "politics as usual" that has been going on for decades in Chicago.
I had high hopes for our new superintendent. Compared to Mayer Daley's horrific failure, the cowardly Jody Weis, the installation of McCarthy looked like it would be an improvement, and in some ways, it is. McCarthy was reportedly a good policeman when he worked for NYPD.
I watched the St. Sabina video where McCarthy gave his famous speech blaming black gun violence on "government-sponsored racism," and denigrating the NRA (that caused the SCOTUS to overturn the city's blatantly unConstitutional gun ban). My heart sank, watching him spew one demented opinion after another. He was acting in his official capacity as a employee of the Chicago Police Department. Because the things he was saying were a combination of false logic, an illogical reference to Sarah Palin, and blatant political pandering to the false and spiritually bankrupt philosophy of Phleger, he should have prefaced his commentary with a statement that he was about to say things that are his personal opinion, and do not represent the Department, just as I did at the beginning of this post.
Like it or not, he presented his comments as those of the Department. It reminded me of when Weis gave a public endorsement of candidate Obama in 2008, in violation of Department policy. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but not to present it publicly as that of the Department.
I pray that Superintendent McCarthy can move beyond the St. Sabina fiasco, and demonstrate the will to do what is right and moral, and make good decisions in his office. I am assuming he has a contract similar to what Weis had, that can insulate him from politics, IF he chooses to go that route. That was one of Weis's failings. Weis COULD have done a lot of good, if he chose to, because he was protected by his contract. Instead, he caved-in to dirty Chicago politics, and left behind a legacy of one shameful, incompetent, and cowardly decision after another.
What will McCarthy's legacy be? Only time will tell....
My comments here are my own, as I exercise my First Amendment right which was memorialized in the U.S. Constitution. I say "memorialized," because our God-given rights to be a free people, to speak freely and also to defend ourselves against those with criminal intent (to the point of deadly force, if necessary), were already given to us the minute we were born, given to us by our Divine Creator, created in His image. These rights were not granted by, but merely documented in, the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.
Long live freedom!
Daley got to keep over a million dollars in political contributions because he was grandfathered in before the law changed.
That should be his legal defense fund. Fuck him and his rotten criminal family.
Hey, Vanecko. Are you OK with having killed somebody and gotten away with it you piece of shit? I hope you follow that rotten thieving uncle of yours to the shit house.
Can anybody recommend any ranges to go practice with an M4. I've been trying to get in to Area 5 the past 3 weeks and they always tell me they've got classes or there's no time available.
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Gun World in Lombard might be open, their new range is centerfire rifle rated.
Check Bass Pro up near Waukegan, Gat Guns in Dundee.
Bristol Ranges in Bristol, Wisconsin is an outdoor range.
Last but not least, the Illinois State Rifle Assn. range out by Kankakee. If you want to shoot, this is the place for rifles.
Give him one asst. Corp Counsel, the dumbest of the herd. Maybe then he'll think twice and buck up for his own legal team.
The greedy crooked lawyers (Hass and Flint Taylor to name two) just want to get some more headlines to keep the pot boiling on this story. These scumbag lawyers are probably getting 40% of anything their "innocent clients" are getting from the city. That is indeed a big chunk of change. Burge & Co should all get medals for keeping the dirtbags they did off the streets. None of them are innocent.
8/11/2011 03:17:00 PM
The problem is not of their guilt, its of the alleged tactics used to bring about the confession, charges, trial then conviction. Violation of constitutional rights (6&8) and before I get bashed for my comment, its the same rights that protects all of us. Just look at how Daley thought he was higher than the constitution and the 2nd amendment. We cant pick and choose which one's we like and don't like based upon the individual it protects.
Anonymous said...
Good point SCC. Why duidnt the media pick up on this error?
8/11/2011 06:57:00 AM
THATS one of the biggest problems we have on this job.......... see above comment .......... people opening their mouths and talking about things they don t have a clue about.............. and then putting it on paper and looking to blame someone else................
In Chicago its NOT an " Obligation" its a " GLOB LIBATION". I hate the salty aftertaste and hope it doesn't stain my slacks. The taxpayers drink this daily.
"our ads commander created a cta mission team, all black by the way except a chosen few..."
--8/09/2011 08:40:00 PM
Oh, Jewish guys, huh?
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Hope they know Krav Maga, which I think is Hebrew for "poke their eyes out."
ot:
Aggression during G20 rally ‘perpetrated by police,’ judge rules
www.thestar.com
A Toronto judge ruled that “adrenalized” police acted as aggressors at a peaceful political rally that led to dozens of arrests during the G20.
Rahm you are a one term Mayor my man. The entire working force in the City wants to dump your ass. If you dare spend one dime of tax payer money on Daley defense fund it will end your career as a politician. BTW....you are a stroke.
That was always the plan - meet your new Democratic U.S. Senator from Illinois
Imagine if Jon burge decided to side with the dark side and said daley totally knew. lol. byebye Richie.
Oh -- and since when does the Mayor run around like the wing commander in 12 O'Clock High, "comforting and issuing condolences to victims of gun violence?" Is he the City Chaplain now?
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Dude are you that big of a Jagoff, the girl was 6 years old sleeping in her grandmothers house...show some fucking compassion.
8/11/2011 02:05:00 PM
The Mayor did not refer specifically to this case; he made it sound like this was a big new citywide overall responsibility of his.
Oh. It's the ones discharging firearms into an occupied dwelling who need the "compassion" lesson.
God bless and stay safe!
Can anybody recommend any ranges to go practice with an M4. I've been trying to get in to Area 5 the past 3 weeks and they always tell me they've got classes or there's no time available. If you're 5 minutes late for a zeroing class they'll cancel it, so what are they doing with the other 3 hours 55 minutes? This is very frustrating so any help would be appreciated.
8/11/2011 12:11:00 AM
You say you want to practice and can't get in, but then say if you're late for a zeroing class they cancel it. Are you trying to zero or practice? If you're late for a class, that's on you. If you want to practice, I've never heard of anyone being turned away if they call in advance to make sure there's no other training going on that pulls them away to other areas. In fact, they are pretty accommodating to anyone trying to improve their skills. Try picking up the phone and keeping to a schedule.
Too bad Royko's not still around - he penned that bio on Shortshank's old man - maybe Kass will pen one on 'Shank (because you sure as hell no other media person from Chicago will do so).
THAT would be a read (while downing Chardonnay to stomach it of course).
--No Cop Here
Anonymous said...
Try this, take a zeroing class and show up 5 minutes early instead of 5 minutes late. In fact, try showing up early for all firearms classes. That way you won't have to go on the blog and complain how they shut you out when you show up late with your dick in your hand.
8/11/2011 08:51:00 AM
Yeah nice try ass. My rifle is already zeroed. I'm trying to practice with it.
8/11/2011 04:24:00 PM
Well, in that case, show up on time for practice. Or exercise your vast intellect and find some place to practice. If you can't figure out where to go practice with your M4 you have no business carrying one.
Off topic but something that makes perfect sense. Wouldn't it bebefit the O''Hare Aviation Police to hire only C.P.D. Retirees? They'd be trained and experienced in a variety of specialties. No offense to non-CPD employees but this is a perfect place for all parties involved. A majority of retirees are working to supplement their income and stay active.
Rahm is out and about crying about the poor financial state of the city. Laying off workers, cutting benefits, and making all city employees look like loafers and beggars. Now he wants to spend untold millions to defend the very same mutt who has this city on its financial knees. Be sure that all this was discussed before Daley annointed Emmanuel to be mayor for how long ever he wants.
Well said Randy.
fuckin crazy
are we paying his mortgage too?
what well-connected law firm will be the former crook, er mayor's counsel??? How many "billable hours" will this gouge the taxpayers?
Heh...
Nice one Rahmbo...
Way to watch the back door for Daley Inc.
Satan is stoking a special, blue-white fire for you thieving whores...
Are you regular citizens still fast to shit-talk the posters on this blog who have been trying to illuminate the depths of political fuckery, fiscal malfeasance and flat out criminal misconduct of these career politicians?
"Why don't you coppers quit complaining and get to work fighting some of this crime. If you don't like it, quit!"
Now you're walking around with your pockets turned inside and looking like you pooped your pants because Daley Inc. & 9.5 absolutely chumped you.
You were warned that they were rigging the game solely for their benefit and to everyone else's detriment.
This too shall pass like a fart in the dark and Daley Inc. has put every possible piece in place, up to and including having full ownership of the Presidency of this country.
Greedy, out of control cops?
We always thought Chicagoans were made of much harder stuff than to fall for such a clear distractor.
Perhaps we gave too much credit.
These muthafuckahs are going to skate and make good their escape for the most stupendous run of political and municipal financial crimes ever in recorded history.
But you damned The Police and tried your best to take what he's worked half a life time for just because he wears a blue suit of clothes.
You've elected and re-elected this college of ass-clowns who have destroyed a thriving economic engine for the sake of cynical politics, clout and greed.
...Reaping what you've sown is what it's called.
Obligation?
The fraternal sibling to Loyalty?
Heh... The people made war on the guardians at the behest of their political and media masters as part of the circus of distraction.
Heh... The Policeman saw this as clear as day and tried to sound the alarm.
You said, "Stop complaining!"
Daley Inc. just smiled and kept raking in money.
$12 to $15 Billion gone *poof* over 20 years but The Policeman and "their sweet pensions and early retirements" gets the blame for "not chipping in to help" with problems they did not create.
But nobody cared to hear about that...
Chicago is a Potemkin village built on a graveyard in a swamp...
It's getting hard for the criminal-political class to ignore the decaying grim grinners hanging out of their coffins as the whole big, God-awful, putrid mess is starting to percolate up through the ground where the previous and current administrations thought they would stay buried.
Or are you citizens just freaked out about how truly and totally ugly this shit is and will be?
The Police are the enemy though...
It's way too late for "hey guys, aren't we all in this together?
OT: who got the Grant Park lawn repair gig after the Lallapalooooopa? I'm betting it's someone connected to the former hizzoner. Vanecko Landscape Architects??? batboy??
just axin
Give him one of the crappy Corp. Counsels they give us! See how well he does with that!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I've been out of town. What's going on w/Daley?
8/11/2011 06:09:00 AM
He is being considered for the Nobel peace prize on account of his high intelligence level. Also, he is being studied by the University of Chicago School of Higher Economics for almost singlehandedly turning a well financed properly run large American City into a bankrupt crime ridden fiasco that will soon rival Detroit for monumental collapses.
8/11/2011 08:57:00 AM
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LMAO Thanks I so needed that laugh!!!!
As an ASA, he's immune from being sued, so the attorneys are basing the suit on the time he was mayor, not as an ASA.
8/11/2011 06:46:00 AM
You........ are a dumb-fuck!
8/11/2011 09:16:00 AM
No you are the dumbfuck because what he/she stated is true. ASA's are immune so the only way to try to get him is for the knowledge while mayor. Still nothing will happen to the criminal fucker but at least it's a try.
Daley was NOT an ASA.....you are still a dumb fuck
Anonymous said...
It's all about using the poor as tools to exploit the middle class for taxes.
Take this state tuition program for example.
Now you know why everyone is an honor student. If you kick out the kids with the zero point zero grade averages some elite members of society are going to lose funding or perhaps their jobs.. This is so bullshit!! You can only wonder how may were illegal immigrants too cheating a US citizen out of his/her chances to make it.
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Hundreds of Chicago State University students received state financial aid even though their grades were so low that they shouldn’t have been allowed to enroll at the university, according to testimony Wednesday at a state hearing.
The state audit commission hearing comes after the Tribune reported last month that the South Side public university intentionally allowed failing students to remain in school to boost its enrollment numbers.
Sen. Edward Maloney, D-Chicago, chair of the Senate Higher Education Committee, revealed that 449 students during 2008-2009, who should have been dismissed for poor academic performance based on university policy, received state financial aid given to needy students.
Of those students, 106 had a grade point average of 0.0 and still received financial aid from the taxpayer-funded Monetary Award Program, known as MAP.
“This is a serious, serious situation that I really think has to be addressed,” Maloney said. “The fact that people were getting the money who were making no progress and keeping it from people who could have used it … is a tragedy.”
more >> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-hundreds-who-got-aid-at-chicago-state-should-not-have-been-enrolled-20110810,0,4546245.story
8/11/2011 12:38:00 AM
...thanks M.M....
"McNutty is going to integrate the commanders in the districts, as he is now living in one of the most segregated cities in North America. Good luck with THAT!
8/11/2011 05:33:00 PM"
Are you that friggn brainwashed into thinking the D/C has to be the same ethnicity as the community? Granted that's been the modus operandi for eons,but it's high time for a change.
Anonymous said...
They're saying that after he made mayor he conspired with others to cover-up all brutality allegations. Now that puts the City taxpayers responsible for paying his fees. With regards to the actual alleged acts before he was mayor, he is exempt since states attorneys cannot be sued or held accountable unless they really mess up.
8/11/2011 07:22:00 AM
I certainly do not want to offend you - and I think you are a (student) "lawyer"...with that said, the point is not "what happened" (lol) but "who it happened to"... get used to it here...it'll make life a lot easier...take a trip somewhere, you have a week before the kids are back to school...
Come on! Don't worry aboutit!
They can prove he got the letter; but they will never prove he can read.
He just needs those bodyguards a few more months going back and forth to court until the paperwork goes through for the marshall's and witness protection. O drama has got a year left, relax.
Sensational & naive, but interesting reading:
http://gangresearch.net/Torture/index.html
"...and since when does the Mayor run around like the wing commander in 12 O'Clock High, 'comforting and issuing condolences to victims of gun violence?'"
Yeah, really. He's won the election already, hasn't he?
He needs to be AT WORK, balancing the budget and un-fucking everything that Tricky Dick Daley left as his legacy.
Anonymous said...
No, Rahm is not nuts. Rahm is actually extremely intelligent and shrewd!
Rahm knows enough NOT to do anything dumb, and publicly, or privately piss off Daley.
Do you think that just because Daley “retired”, Daley’s power “retired” too? Daley is still a very powerful man. A man that can help one’s or hurt one’s shot at getting into the White House.
the "S" family looks pretty good now... not the silly ass 'boss' of the 19...more to come...
"Sun-quirer"
I like it! It has a certain ring and definitely truth to it!
"Breczek was Police Superintendent when he sent that letter to Daley.
Why didn't he deal with Burge?
I've always wondered who was Burge's clout...Was Breczek, who was little more than a glorified clerk, scared to take on Burge himself?"
Looks like the superintendent didn't run the department back then, either.
Some things never change!
It's a culture of criminality, this here Cook County-Chicago, Illinois.
Anonymous said...
SCC, I applaud you for being the FIRST major news/gossip outlet to point this out! Not one
major news agency has said anything about
WHERE Daley was working when this Burge
mess actually started hitting the fan many many
years ago, and WHICH Govt. agency was signing
his checks! Let Preckwinkle sort out Daley's obligational mess, NOT the City of Chicago.
And does it also stand to reason that since
our illustrious Supt. of CPD at that time
(Richard Breczek, sorry if the last name isn't
spelled correctly) actually notified then CCSA
Daley by letter about the allegations against
Burge, asking Daley for guidance on how to
deal with the matter, does this also place
our then-Supt. 'on the hook' as well? It's
going to be interesting to see how this
continues to be sorted out with regard to
who knew what, and failed to act on the info
at hand during the time the alleged abuses
occurred.
8/11/2011 03:52:00 AM
u r correct...but
"We are stuck with them until they are kicked out of office by an enraged public."
We're stuck. There are too many of them and too many waiting to take their place.
The only thing that could save this city is a nuke strike or some sort of plague that would kill everyone off.
Then someone could start over here.
The culture of criminality is just too deeply entrenched.
Be careful of what you wish for. I suspect this is mostly about getting Daley on the stand so he can claim memory loss about whatever excesses Burge was guilty of.
No matter what, Daley himself will skate. He will never be held accountable for anything he has done, at least in this life.
However, his inability to remember any of this stuff, will make Burge, et al, look even more guilty.
Or he can tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, and further sully the already low reputation of CPD by his admissions of what went on, and his knowledge of it.
This just cannot go anywhere "good", at least short term.
Anonymous said...
Oh -- and since when does the Mayor run around like the wing commander in 12 O'Clock High, "comforting and issuing condolences to victims of gun violence?" Is he the City Chaplain now?
New one on me.
8/11/2011 12:24:00 AM
Does he make sure they are registered voters before he makes all the fuss!
@ 8/11/2011 07:02:00 PM
Well said!
Buck Naked
( not a cop )
"Daley was NOT an ASA...."
But he is an ASS.
Obligation? Obligation will be when the city allows dumped ex-Deputy Superintendent Michael Shields to return to CPD effective Monday, 15 August 2011 and he is placed back in an Exempt role, having access to all the young un suspecting police women on this job. This guy is a walking debt to the city. Oh, but I keep forgetting. We must look past that. He is some kin to the President of the United States.
Don't forget Exempts, he bragged with retired lazy ass Captain Glombicki who is more stupid than Tony Carothers and Eddie Welch put together.
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VERY well said, Glombicki STILL walks around kissing everyone's ass, he wants to get his stupid daughter promoted too just like he was. Another lazy do-nothing on this job.
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