$1.3 Million for Suicide
Someone kills themselves via stupidity and the City can't wait to give them piles of money:
- A video of Chicago police not getting immediate medical help for a suspect who collapsed after swallowing drugs during an arrest last summer likely will lead to a $1.3 million wrongful death settlement against the city.
The case involves John Coleman Jr., 39, whom police saw taking part in an apparent drug sale in July 2010 in the 100 block of West Division Street, a city attorney said Wednesday. Coleman ran and, after he was caught, struggled with officers. One used a Taser to subdue him.
We're sure Mr. Coleman had a clean record and a great job. He took care of all his children and visited his ailing mother regularly. He loved dogs and rescued kittens from trees, all while assisting little old ladies across the street in his spare hours.
On the other hand, maybe Mr. Coleman was a dope dealing piece of crap with a record a mile long who never contributed anything to society besides pain, suffering and his gang's brand of poison to addicts that ruined once prosperous neighborhoods.
Either way, $1.3 million in taxpayer money is far more than Mr. Coleman ever would have seen in a legitimate workplace.
On the other hand, maybe Mr. Coleman was a dope dealing piece of crap with a record a mile long who never contributed anything to society besides pain, suffering and his gang's brand of poison to addicts that ruined once prosperous neighborhoods.
Either way, $1.3 million in taxpayer money is far more than Mr. Coleman ever would have seen in a legitimate workplace.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
132 Comments:
I bet that that the Shithead's family has a Clout Connected attorney. That's why the settlement is so high..
Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with this Country?
Proud to be American? Really?
Why bother being legit? You are actually in the minority!
Now if rahm would put his foot down and say this guys family aint getting shit, I might reconsider what I think of him. But I doubt it.
There is absolutely no reason for rewarding bad behavior.
If I were these officers I would do everything in my power to sue the city/county/state. Get medical opinions, etc. This is unacceptable and should not be tolerated by us as Police or a decent society.
SCC....I seldom disagree with you. However, in thisa case I think you are completely wrong! Completely wrong for not labeling this one under un-fucking-FUCKING-believable
off topic, but I was surfing around the web tonight and found a story written about cpd back in the early 1990s. Its written about Dave Sneethen who is now retired but a great guy. Its funny how the media has changed. This story is so pro beat cop and shines a heroic light on the every day coppers in this city... Its a shame to see what they are calling reporting these days.. You just dont see articles written like this anymore.. It actually is an interesting read, which is why I use to read the paper...Not anymore with the trash they write now... either way, here is the article below.. enjoy
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-06-10/news/9306100098_1_deputy-crazies-special-operations
Was this a settlement without going to trial? No wonder this town is broke. Handing money to the family of this drug dealer takes the cake. With the money Rahm will save taking benefits from cops he will be able to cut this deserved check to the "victims" family. I would like to know who the family attorneys are and what their "connection" is with the city law dept.
Mr Coleman had well over one hundred arrests and many of those included bullshit trips to the hospital to delay his processing. He was a POS and won't be missed by the 018th District. The two cops who transported him are stripped at call back for well over a year without allegations. Give me a break, yeah and this department wants us to stick our neck out. It could've been any midnight unit that transported that POS, but it happened to be those two who are being hung out to dry. The POS swallowed a pack of heroin ad one of them burst in his belly before he threw them up and they got caught in his throat. He would've been dead if that happened in the lobby of the hospital. Cause of death was overdose, not suffication. Two good cops are being f*cked and a whole watch is feeling the weight of their f*cking, but we'll be sure to go out and produce. And these know nothings haven't a clue as to why morale is so bad.
On the sun times website there are two stories about Finnigan, a story about the dope swallowing settlement, and the story about medical abusers. The increased negative articles will continue until the next contract is settled and our pensions have disappeared. The media will place their spotlight on the tiny percentage of officers bringing ill fame to the department while ignoring heroic actions exhibited EVERY DAY. This is gonna get exhausting, man! I work with brave men and women who respond to life threatening calls every day without hesitation. I want to stay informed about the city I live in, but reading these negative stories day after day after day after day after day........ Simply put, it just sucks being told on a regular basis that you and yours are ASSHOLES.
The most common BS Prisoners give when arrested is that they have chest pains when they say that they will spend the night in a hospital bed and they can watch TV and have the Nurse bring them sandwiches all night I dont lock up piss Bums for that reason.
thing is...police THINK he put drugs in his mouth. We know he did but lets face it he put small items into his mouth before he ran and fought the police! Do we bring everyone to the hospital we THINK put drugs in his mouth? they dont have to treat him if we dont know for a fact so its a waste of time. Imagine bring a guy to the hospital saying "he put small items into his mouth we THINK was drugs" they will ask him if he wants to be treated and thats that. This is a joke he killed himself
Wow,
I struggle to pay my mortgage, tuition, etc. Heck, my main goal is to provide for my kids and to give them the opportunity to succeed.
This is tempting!
That is why boys and girls...
I don't do shit!
If the officers never pursued him, he would of never tried to swollow the drugs and he would not have been tazed...
So don't do shit, and the shit can't get rich.
simple.
If, in fact, SOP for CPD is a bambulance for any tasering then call the f'in bambulance. If the guy seemed to be having troubles on the ride to the station, call the f'in bambulance to the station on your way there even if you think he's playin' you. How f'in stupid would you feel now helping contribute to his families ghetto lottery? This isn't rocket science. Hope the family spends it wisely (ya, right).
Folks, think!!!! The recording device in your car is capturing audio even when the camera is not. The good folks downtown can pull up a live audio, video or audio and video stream from your vehicle at any time. Currently the app they use for the audio randomly selects a vehicle and some schmuck with our best intrests in mind sits in front of his computer listening. The cameras are there to help us, my ass. Show me one example
Although if this case went to a Cook County jury, it would have awarded this much or more---so what's the alternative? I guess just making the turd's lawyers work for it by taking it to trial?
Maybe in the long run, the settlement is cheaper than running this mope thru the system for the next 20 years, and paying for the brood not sired by him? Just sayin'.
The title should have read:
"From the Soul Coast to the Gold Coast" an arrestee with a record as long as the Magnificent Mile will receive $1.3 million...
The whole story is not being told here on SCC.
Read the Sun Times article. It was a compiling
of poor judgements made by the arresting officers
which caused the City (wisely so in this case) to
offer up a paltry 1.3 mil to the family of the deceased, which they quickly gobbled up.
The offender swallowed drugs. This was put out on the air. A taser was used. The man was combative with several officers. All the signs were there that this offender should have been taken to a hospital for examination/treatment in an ambulance. Dept.
regulations require it. So WHY wasn't this done
immediately? Where was the supervision?
Proper supervision on the scene might have
prevented this situation from resulting in the death
of this man (scum, but still a human life, which
we're all sworn to protect). Looking at all the evidence presented in this case, the City got off
cheap. 1.3 mil for a life that probably wouldn't have
been lost if proper procedures had been followed
is a bargain. Any way you slice it, rules weren't
followed, and a man died because of it. Yes, it
does make us all sick as tax payers, but it doesn't
excuse what was done, or in this case, what wasn't
done PROPERLY. Hopefully, those involved who are
assigned to callback will, if allowed to return to full
duty, will do it better & smarter should that occur.
As one poster put it, " call the f......en ambulance".
I have lost count at how many times, while working the wagon, they would call us in because some shit head in the lock up is complaining about chest pains.
CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE!
We are not paramedics. If you have someone in custody and they complain about feeling sick, take them to the closest hospital and get them looked at. Once they have a medical clearance you are good to go. Shithead can complain all he wants after that. If you have that little piece of paper in which the doctor wrote what he did, no problems.
Read your general order on tasering someone. U must call for ems. this money verdict which is ridiculous will get those officers fired cause no ems was called after taser. Learn from how some bullshit can leave u jobless. Cover your ass cause nobody else is gonna.
scc should post the video. then everyone would understand that the settlement was a bargain.
Uh, 1:36 AM; I think there's a part of your plan that you haven't completely thought through.
Almost as good as the following:
"A man has been charged with cheating his three young relatives out of more than $400,000 in settlement money they received after their mother and brother died in a fire at a CHA housing complex."
The kicker is the women who died, it was her own children that set the fire.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-man-accused-of-cheating-young-relatives-out-of-settlement-money-20110907,0,7343980.story
You folks are missing one important and up-beat fact; that piece-of-shit Coleman is dead. Sometimes, it's worth paying to get rid of GARBAGE.
watch commander told us at roll call it was the in car camera video that did them in. Back seat camera...failed to render aid to a choking shit head...so how about that.
In china he would have been shot in the head and his family billed the cost of the bullet.And you wonder why China's economy is doing so much better then us? They don't have welfare breeders and lazy drug dealing shitheads who rely on Uncle Sam.
As a law abiding Citizen, this literally makes me sick. I could work the rest of my natural life paying taxes and it would be a pittance of what this scumbag's "family" will win in the Ghetto Lottery. Thank's LBJ, that war on poverty is going along swimmingly.
Does that $1.3 mil include enough to pay back cousin Elmo for the good heroin and cocaine wasted and not paid for due to never being sold? Must balance the books you know.
I agree if they would have just followed procedure and call the ambo this would have turned out different, how can the city fight the law suit? we have no defense. for all the police out there when u tase someone call cfd no matter if the probs fall out or he or she looks fine. its not worth your job for these POS jagoffs.
i guess selling dope really can pull your family out of poverty...
follow the rules. that way it is not your problem at least. not much else you can do.
If you're going to be on paper with some asshole that's claiming a medical problem,call for ems. If in the station inform the wc,who makes the call.
DOCUMENT DOCUMENT DOCUMENT
The pen (or nowadays the keyboard) will save your job.
It's not giving into the animal,it's being smart.
Use the g.o.'s as they are written to protect yourself.
Not CPD said...
If, in fact, SOP for CPD is a bambulance for any tasering then call the f'in bambulance. If the guy seemed to be having troubles on the ride to the station, call the f'in bambulance to the station on your way there even if you think he's playin' you. How f'in stupid would you feel now helping contribute to his families ghetto lottery? This isn't rocket science. Hope the family spends it wisely (ya, right).
9/08/2011 04:21:00 AM
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You're an idiot! If you dealt with these dregs of society all day every day for 20 odd years, you'd know you don't cater to their whims. Our liberal society has gotten completely out of hand by giving this mutts family 1.3 mil when he knowingly chose to ingest the narcotics.
Nice to see some Monday morning quarterbacking by someone who's "not a cop"!
Coleman was a bum. A bum's life isn't worth 1.3m. The video must be bad.
OT national average may be 14 days off sick , but most of these workers do not receive pay . That's the difference.
If Rahm gave us all 300 days at the beginning of our careers ,
95 % of us would save them for emergency . The abusers would use them all within 10 years .
I think most officers would approve that medical roll plan .
The State should come after the family for repayment of all of the public aid he/they received. After that is all paid back then the lawyer and the family gets paid. Watch these lawsuits drop...
Off topic: I went to the credit union today and got treated like garbage before I could even say a word. I just turned around and left. The arrogance of that place, making millions by jack-rolling coppers. They have very little risk by loaning to us, and they act like they are a real bank. Enjoy all your new branches you built with coppers money! Keep in mind, we pay your salary jagoffs!(Sound familiar)
Chasing people for drugs.
The epitome of foolishness.
Working in the insurance industry as an adjuster, this settlement makes sense financially. Cook county juries are notorious for awarding large settlements. The theory behind the settlement is that the city will spend X amount of dollars in defense costs. The jury will award Y x 10, because most dislike the police and will try to punish them for giving them that speeding ticket 10 years ago. So rather than risk an out of control jury verdict, it's fiscally responsible to reach a settlement with plaintiff counsel prior to trial. Rules were broken, liability is difficult to defend with the video that shows everything. I don't agree with the settlement, but understand why they are doing what they are doing.
lawyers make money this way. screw the police, it's all our fault.
Off Topic: A few more things about the wonderful credit union(ghetto currency exchange). I'm talking about the one on 111th next to the uniform store, the one that sells us 10 dollar old-navy style cargo pants for 80 bucks. 1) Do you really trust your personal information with people you know nothing about, yet they know you are the police. 2) Are you confident that the people handling your money can add or subtract without a calculator.
thing is...police THINK he put drugs in his mouth. We know he did but lets face it he put small items into his mouth before he ran and fought the police! Do we bring everyone to the hospital we THINK put drugs in his mouth? they dont have to treat him if we dont know for a fact so its a waste of time. Imagine bring a guy to the hospital saying "he put small items into his mouth we THINK was drugs" they will ask him if he wants to be treated and thats that. This is a joke he killed himself
9/08/2011 12:59:00 AM
I know it's bullshit, but at least it would be on record that you took him to the hospital. It's documented that the hospital or even the offender refused treatment and you are covered.
The South African Warrior shalt skate again! TeflonMarty™ has taught you well.
I bet that that the Shithead's family has a Clout Connected attorney. That's why the settlement is so high..
9/08/2011 12:14:00 AM
Settlement so high? The article says that the predicted jury award if the case went to trial was 5 million. Plus, the whole thing about the guy falling out of the squad car onto the pavement, twice, and then being shoved back into the car would almost guarantee punitive damages awards against the officers.
It doesn't seem fair and everyone knows that the guy was scum, but the reality of it is that juries don't see it that way and the federal judges almost never, ever, let in someone's criminal background and felony arrests into evidence because it "dirties up" the plaintiff too much. All the jury would see in this case is a sanitized version given by the family of a hard working guy who had lost his job and the uncaring police officers who didn't take him to the hospital when he needed to go. Consider the 1.3 million dollars a cheap end to the whole thing.
To the officers involved:
Keep your chins up. Don't pay attention to the slanted, biased reporting in that rag. But for chance and the grace of God, that could have happened to any copper on this job. That mutt chose his own path in life. You have the support and respect of your fellow coppers of every rank, active and retired.
Cuz
I'm glad he is dead -
still cheaper in the long run - too bad he didn't kark earlier, keep his reproduction rate down.
What a shame...this rat is worth more dead than alive...
Stupid Hair-Gels, didn't enough people tell you yet to CTA [Cover Thy Ass] at ALL times? If you are this dumb, you'd better quit now, before you end up in Prison.
the government dont want their people locked up it cost money..anov please..
i was on the train this morning saw a tsa with a tat on neck saying "only god can judge" wow..
did they reward his family that cause thats how much welfare he would of got anyway..
only in chicago
Just why are Chicago cops still fighting the bullshit war on drugs anyway? I would just let them consume all the drugs they want. Let the junkies rot away and die while their dope dealing "brothers" enjoy the good life off their stupidity. Seeing good police officers punished for doing their jobs is not right. Anyone who still does any work out here is a complete fool. The city does not have your back right or wrong. Go to your jobs. Make out the reports. Go sit under a viaduct and read a book. In 20-25 years you can retire and hopefully the pension will still be there for you.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1993-06-10/news/9306100098_1_deputy-crazies-special-operations
9/08/2011 12:31:00 AM
Good read. It's too bad there aren't any journalists out there who would write like this today
I'm going to be a foster father to shit heads and teach them to swallow dope. Its a " Win-Win".
Great article about Snethen....shows Townsend for what he was....a self important political hack like the rest of the brass on this job.....not qualified to hold a good copper's jock....
If, in fact, SOP for CPD is a bambulance for any tasering then call the f'in bambulance. If the guy seemed to be having troubles on the ride to the station, call the f'in bambulance to the station on your way there even if you think he's playin' you. How f'in stupid would you feel now helping contribute to his families ghetto lottery? This isn't rocket science. Hope the family spends it wisely (ya, right).
9/08/2011 04:21:00 AM
Well you don't know rocket science. If the probes are stuck to him yes you call an ambulance to remove them. Other than that no you don't have to.
That is why boys and girls...
I don't do shit!
If the officers never pursued him, he would of never tried to swollow the drugs and he would not have been tazed...
So don't do shit, and the shit can't get rich.
simple.
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If shitbird is tazed, swallows something or complains of any distress, take the fuck to the hospital or call an ambulance, PERIOD. These fuckers know the game and we are paid professionals and we should know the rules. I know these assholes play us, but hey, I have a mortgage, car payments and other assorted bills to be paid each month and I can't pay them if I'm fired. It's all part of the job, just protect YOURSELF and YOUR PARTNER and err on the side of caution. I know it's all bullshit, but it is what it is.
A) Mr. Coleman had a clean record and a great job. He took care of all his children and visited his ailing mother regularly. He loved dogs and rescued kittens from trees, all while assisting little old ladies across the street in his spare hours.
B) Mr. Coleman was a dope dealing piece of crap with a record a mile long who never contributed anything to society besides pain, suffering and his gang's brand of poison to addicts that ruined once prosperous neighborhoods.
I know this one...I know this one!!
B
You guys don't get it, and until you start to hold your fellow officers accountable for the truly stupid stuff they do, this will continue to happen. The video on this is gruesome. This guy died because a) he was an idiot, but also b) because the officers were caught on tape THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT not giving a shit about what he was doing, even after seeing him choking. These officers would have been selling their homes to pay the punitive damages that would have been awarded by an infuriated jury, and the City would have been on the hook for far more than 1.3 mil. It's all about the video. That's why it was settled early. Just once, try to have an objective bone in your body. See what it feels like.
thing is...police THINK he put drugs in his mouth. We know he did but lets face it he put small items into his mouth before he ran and fought the police! Do we bring everyone to the hospital we THINK put drugs in his mouth? they dont have to treat him if we dont know for a fact so its a waste of time. Imagine bring a guy to the hospital saying "he put small items into his mouth we THINK was drugs" they will ask him if he wants to be treated and thats that. This is a joke he killed himself
9/08/2011 12:59:00 AM
I was an Army Military Policeman back in the 70's stationed in Germany. Occasionally we would find GI's with dope and sometimes they would swallow it like this goof did. We would take the guy to the Army Hospital and the docs would pump their stomach. There was no question whether the guy consented to the procedure or not, the docs simply did it. Every time that happened the druggie would be released back into our custody after the stomach pumping procedure and he would keep saying over and over again, "I'm NEVER going to do that shit again!" Too bad the ER docs don't do that sort of things these days.
Don't worry people, his family is going to spend all of this money on crack. Within a one year period they will be reapplying for food stamps and hanging out in front of liquior stores like they were ment to be.
"Officer, he was ah good man, ah good for nothing man that is!"
City will pay because they never fight these b.s. lawsuits.
Blah Blah Blah,
The bad news is 2 good coppers are getting screwed, and the city (us) is our $1.3M. The good news is, this worthless piece of shit is still dead by his own hand. He can't reproduce anymore!
simple solution to a simple problem... call an ambulance and dont be lazy so you can get done with your quick cb#. I know nobody likes calling an ambulance because now your gonna have to sit on dude in the hospital but you will cover your ass big time. even if the ambulance gets there and he signs a refusal you did your job and are protected. these guys had this guy in the back and stopped the car half way, got out and this guy was fallin out. they got back into the car and drove the rest of the way to the station without calling the ambulance. The settlement isnt weather this guy is an asshole or a dope fiend...its about the coppers turning a blind eye to this guy when hes in pain screaming for the hospital...all of this was caught by the camera that faces rear into the prisoner compartment..not too smart. i know every scumbag says they need to go to the hospital, but if you tase the guy and you think he swallowed dope, just put your pride aside and call him an ambulance. no need to put yourself in federal court for non sense.
This is what happens when you don't follow procedure. Had these guys done that even if dude died the case probably would've had a different outcome.
they dont want their voter locked-up dont you guy get it..the savages run us..
lol. gimme a break
Was the hospital sued? Did they fight? Did they pay?
Think what a Cook County jury would have done. They do not, never ever consider that it is their money they are flushing away.
We had a situation in 10 the other night.
Bitch chewed and swallowed a bag or something and spit out two bags.
She was taken to Mt. Sinai ER...
TWICE! (Maybe she didn't want to be x-rayed to see if she had something in her stomach.)
TWICE, she REFUSED to be treated and Mt. Sinai REFUSED to admit her for observation.
Four or five hours later she goes into convulsions in Area 4 Lockup and now goes to Mt. Sinai in an Ambulance. Now she is admitted.
Was it something she swallowed during the arrest or did she have more dope shoved up her crack? Did she crap out a bag and didn't want to waste it? (Junkies are like that.)
Three well documented trips to the hospital with two refusals. Officers and bosses did everything right. Maybe it‘s only good for a half mil if she has the right lawyer. And remember, she almost certainly votes, as I am sure Mr. Coleman will for years to come.
OT
This needs some sun light. Counter terror money wasted in Chicago and Cook County. Wait a few minutes for the local stuff. The mayor cries about not having money, well watch this video a see it go down the toilet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8tilMSFSm0
Overall a good investment in other peoples futures.
You get a check, and you get a check, and you get a check, and you get a check!
Ex Mayor Shortshanks;
Your payment will be in cash as usual. See one of your brothers at the Michigan house.
Out of curiosity, how did your dad afford that mansion/compound on a city salary? Never mind, I forgot you don't answer questions about your family's criminal activity.
To the unpublished "Heir"
Well dumbass, since we've already described Abbate in terms exactly like that of any other common shithead criminal, maybe you'll be the asshat with the look of surprise on his face. We railed against Abbate from the get-go. He never deserved to be on this job and the people who got him through the hiring process ought to be fired, too.
Try to keep up here Newbie.
What's the first thing you learn in the academy? Provide aid to those who need it. I was not there and have not seen the video, but I have seen officers wait to call for medical services. Yea, society has place the job of our brother's keeper on us. Hopefully, the attorneys won't go after the cops' assets
Anonymous said...
Does that $1.3 mil include enough to pay back cousin Elmo for the good heroin and cocaine wasted and not paid for due to never being sold? Must balance the books you know.
if you bill his family for court costs every time he was arrested we could probably recover most of the money.
Another example of coppers taking care of people..
A family member was driving the other day and got stopped around Madison and Pulaski and a female officer #5838 gave this working family member a ticket for taking on the cell phone....way to go there hard charger I know there's nothing better to do than to screw over a honest hard working police officers family in that neighborhood..BTW the family member mentioned that his brother was on the job along with a father that retired from the job!!!great job officer hope that ticket keeps you on days
What did you guys in 020 do to deserve the hot mess that you are about to receive?
Like a bad penny, she keeps turning up.
Not CPD said...
If, in fact, SOP for CPD is a bambulance for any tasering then call the f'in bambulance. If the guy seemed to be having troubles on the ride to the station, call the f'in bambulance to the station on your way there even if you think he's playin' you. How f'in stupid would you feel now helping contribute to his families ghetto lottery? This isn't rocket science. Hope the family spends it wisely (ya, right).
9/08/2011 04:21:00 AM
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You're an idiot! If you dealt with these dregs of society all day every day for 20 odd years, you'd know you don't cater to their whims. Our liberal society has gotten completely out of hand by giving this mutts family 1.3 mil when he knowingly chose to ingest the narcotics.
Nice to see some Monday morning quarterbacking by someone who's "not a cop"!
9/08/2011 08:43:00 AM
He may not be a cop but I am and he is right. General orders says to call a ambulance after someone is tasered. And if you know he ingested bags of narcotics which has opened in stomachs and killed people in the past also have him checked out by a doctor to get his release. That way it is documented that you rendered aid, seen by medical professional, and you followed rules and regs that way you are covered.This has nothing to do with catering to "their" whims. It is about covering your ass and following rules so you don't get fired.
OT
This needs some sun light. Counter terror money wasted in Chicago and Cook County. Wait a few minutes for the local stuff. The mayor cries about not having money, well watch this video a see it go down the toilet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8tilMSFSm0
9/08/2011 03:26:00 PM
Hey!!! It's our old friend Mike Masters (Masters Master Masters) at the 6:00 min mark, talking about how Cook County wasted millions on anti-terrorism equipment that sucks. Like the in-car camera system that cost $65,000 per vehicle (vs. $5-10,000 for in-car camera systems used by other law enforcement agencies). Wow! What a waste of public funds.
Why the fuck is CBC News (who?) exposing this, and not local media? Because the editors and producers are told to look the other way.
Good find! Thank you.
Heard Rahms moving speech on the news about 9/11. This from the asshole further trying to gut and villify those very responders who bear the brunt of the suffering. This is a pathetic attempt to capitalize on the sacrifice of GOOD MEN by a midget, 9 fingered politician trying to score political points. Fuck him and his stupid G8 trainwreck, let him get petrol bombs thrown at him.
11:23am......you might want to look at the order before you use that taser...after depolyment, CFD will be called for treatment. You are not a doctor rocket science!
Cheaper but not deserved. Another jackass gets paid.
09/08/11 12:33 pm
Brother, you're absolutely right. Drive the asshat to the hospital and have coffee while he's treated. Sometimes a cop is his own worst enemy.
ot city workers inspect or shake down stadiums , strict food inspections .
when will the city inspectors inspect the illegal food vendors , 100's of them in the ogden police district
looks like it's hands off , somebody collecting a street tax
no police enforcement or city inspections
it's the chicago way
pay to play
Every State in the U.S.A. is Honoring the Men and Women who lost their lives on 9/11, except Chicago. Tact teams are being assigned to the Mexican Independence Day Parade. How the F%^& did they get a permit on such a sad Day for Americans? Who gave the permit? Revoke it.
9:53 am
The South African Warrior shalt skate again.
Explain that one please?
I fell insence on this one like the Zulu comment on another post.
To: SCC you do a great job of policing crap along racial lines from getting posted here. But there are some that do go uncheck. I like the comments posted here on various topics. Some are humorous some are acidic and some comment don't make since at all exspecially with mispell words.
God bless peace and 5F
After fussing, complaining and criticizing the rules at my job I was given the best piece of advice. "Do what they (rules/management/guidelines)tell you to do. They are always right. It will benefit you in the end." Now, regardless of how stupid, idiotic, senseless and waste of time the task is, I do as I'm told. It's been 5yrs and my stress level is very minimal. My response to every action that stirs the pot, "I was following the rules and did as I was told." Shuts them down every time.
To the officers involved, they were damned if they did, damned if they didn't. The family was going to find a way to file suit even if he had survived. Keep your heads up! This too shall pass.
Never, ever let a shitbird ruin your life. Think out there. Think if what you are doing has the possibility of getting you jammed up. You're not paying the bills for these assholes. And you're on candid camera.
You all are forgetting--if the city settles, there will be no punitive damages for the coppers. So it's not all bad.
Where is this 'gruesome' video?
Simple solution: NO PROACTIVE POLICE WORK! No chase, no taze, no choke, no death, no worries!
WTF is wrong with answering the radio?
I used to believe all that b.s.--you're paid to do this job, it's a calling, it's my responsibility to protect the community--then lo and behold I saw the light!
I answer calls, write paper, say yes sir, no sir. I sleep well at night. I used to think my life was my job. Now my job is just a means to provide a way to enjoy my life, my real life, that starts the minute I walk out the station door.
White people live in South Africa. In fact, they ran the place for years under the apartheid system. Don't look for racial garbage where it doesn't exist Pollyanna.
6:48 pm dhs issue warning for 911 event
Liberals allowed the assailant that attempted murder (two counts) on two blue shirts to go free. Think about that when you risk your life for today's victim becomes tommorow offender. Centuries ago that would be a declaration of civil war.
Penny Trahanas is going to 016. Enjoy! They really are scraping the shavings off the bottom of the barrel now aren't they?
95 % of us would save them for emergency . The abusers would use them all within 10 years .
I think most officers would approve that medical roll plan .
9/08/2011 09:05:00 AM
ehhh... no they wouldn't fucktard.
Some people get deathly sick on this job and require long term care for one fucking instance. So a stupidfuck like you thinks you're "all good" when you get something such as.... oh let's say fucking Pancreatic Fucking Cancer and it takes you out for almost a solid fucking year to go through Chemo, Radiation & Rehabilitation.
So a fucktard using your fucked up logic would then never be allowed to ever again go on the medical for any fucking thing again in his career lest he be fucking fired.
As previously stated, your fucktard idea is just that, fucktarded. And only a fucktard no-timer like yourself would be so fucking stupid as to vote to give away a fucking medical system that is necessary for some people on this fucking job.
6:26 pm
thanks for responding even if you didn't answer the question in intelligent or articulated way. Just some clearity to a comment made.
Sign 6:01
asshat
I know it's bullshit, but at least it would be on record that you took him to the hospital. It's documented that the hospital or even the offender refused treatment and you are covered.
9/08/2011 09:48:00 AM
or, moron.... this fucking shithead cries about his bullshit fucking pains, aches and pathetic fucking life and the next 3 fucking shifts end up fucking watching the cocksucker sit in a warm fucking bed sleeping until he feels like he should have something to eat for free on the taxpayers... then goes back to sleep until he's fucking hungry again.
Shitheads like this are a dime a fucking dozen and they all play the scam to lay on their fucking ass while the police piss away resources watching his fucking ass for no reason whatsoever other than he's a fucking liar and hospitals won't take responsibility for a lying fucking shithead.
The entire leftist agenda is insane, and results in total nanny state bullshit like this.
ehhh... no they wouldn't fucktard.
Some people get deathly sick on this job and require long term care for one fucking instance. So a stupidfuck like you thinks you're "all good" when you get something such as.... oh let's say fucking Pancreatic Fucking Cancer and it takes you out for almost a solid fucking year to go through Chemo, Radiation & Rehabilitation.
So a fucktard using your fucked up logic would then never be allowed to ever again go on the medical for any fucking thing again in his career lest he be fucking fired.
As previously stated, your fucktard idea is just that, fucktarded. And only a fucktard no-timer like yourself would be so fucking stupid as to vote to give away a fucking medical system that is necessary for some people on this fucking job.
9/08/2011 07:21:00 PM
Thank you.
Anonymous said...
What did you guys in 020 do to deserve the hot mess that you are about to receive?
Like a bad penny, she keeps turning up.
9/08/2011 04:26:00 PM
I live in 020. Please tell me you are joking.
To 9/08/2011 07:26:00 PM
You should read the linked article. The guy wasn't faking aches and pains. And the officers told him several times to open his mouth, so they knew there was a good chance that he swallowed the dope. A little common sense from the P.O.s would have gone a long way here. Take the jagoff to the hospital, plug in your smartphone and check your bets on espn.com.
Penny Trahanas is going to 016. Enjoy! They really are scraping the shavings off the bottom of the barrel now aren't they?
9/08/2011 07:05:00 PM
What the fuck did 016 do to deserve this?
Punish the only Republican stronghold in the City....even though they failed to vote for the republican in the last aldermanic election?
O'Connor should stop making sandwiches long enough to block this move IMMEDIATELY! Don't let this treacherous, quadruple merit promoted, domestic abuser. backed by the fake, west side clergy, work in the Fatherland!
This City sucks so hard!
Well you don't know rocket science. If the probes are stuck to him yes you call an ambulance to remove them. Other than that no you don't have to.
9/08/2011 11:23:00 AM
TASER deployed? Medical attention anytime they are zapped. Is that simple enough for you? EVERYTIME!
hey 422PM...YOU'RE WELCOME.
Tell your "working family member" to NOT act like a savage when the police pull them over for traffic violations (which you just owned up to here - using a cellphone while driving).
There's 2 sides to every story, and mine's the TRUTH.
Next time that piece of shit car gets hooked - then you'll really have something to cry about on the blog.
Sincerely,
"# 5838"
Simple solution: NO PROACTIVE POLICE WORK! No chase, no taze, no choke, no death, no worries!
WTF is wrong with answering the radio?
I used to believe all that b.s.--you're paid to do this job, it's a calling, it's my responsibility to protect the community--then lo and behold I saw the light!
I answer calls, write paper, say yes sir, no sir. I sleep well at night. I used to think my life was my job. Now my job is just a means to provide a way to enjoy my life, my real life, that starts the minute I walk out the station door.
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You are absolutely right!!
I was mad in the beginning when things changed and pro-active policing became a no no. Now, I look at it in a whole new perspective, a blessing in disguise you can say. I answer my calls and write paper when necessary. Doing so has removed a lot of stress from my life.
I know change is hard, especially for the police, but as soon as officers accept the fact that things are not as they used to be, they will also have less stress in their lives.
I caught this on the news...THESE ASSHOLES ACTUALLY SAID THEY DONT WANT THE POLICE TO DO THIS TO ANYONE ELSE!!.....WHAT? DO WHAT? PUT DOPE IN THIS ASSHOLES MOUTH AND FORCE HIM TO SWALLOW IT? THE MEDIA IS DEAD!! NONE OF THESE SO CALLED JOUNALIST QUESTION ANYTHING! FUCK YOU DIRT BAG....I AM GLAD YOUR NOT A DRAIN ON SOCIETY ANYMORE!
It's time for caps on awards. Pay as much as he would have saved, not even earned from working. If it's zero that's the lottery award. Or better yet, don't bother
Just listening to the news post Packers game and they said he died of a heart attack and police did nothing about it! WTF? How about he swallowed drugs? These media people disgust me.
In order to get caps on awards, like other cities, I believe the bar assn has some say. We should follow some cities in texas
Guess who's coming to 016. We are getting CPT Henny Penny. Oh yeah, This sux.
Once you stop a person from going about his business freely, you are responsible for his/her safety and well-being.
You stop a driver for a traffic violation and he/she gets hit, it is your responsibility.
They TASE'd this guy, they knew he had drugs and was exhibiting symptoms and they didn't immediately call for an ambulance? They fucked up.
City is going to wait until after the settlement offer is accepted before deciding what action to take against the officers so as to not trigger an even bigger pay-out.
or, moron.... this fucking shithead cries about his bullshit fucking pains, aches and pathetic fucking life and the next 3 fucking shifts end up fucking watching the cocksucker sit in a warm fucking bed sleeping until he feels like he should have something to eat for free on the taxpayers... then goes back to sleep until he's fucking hungry again
well, moron..... I can think of 1.3 million reasons why you might want to think about taking him to the hospital.... but hey, next time you should just flex your muscles and say how your gonna show him how not to scam the taxpayers blah blah blah blah. hey stupid, re read this story again, then think about if this went to trial, then look at your checkbook. You can have this guy get a free meal in the hospital on the taxpayers or you can write a check to his family when your dumbas* is hit for punitive damages in federal court.... But hey, your gonna teach everyone a lesson on not screwing the tax payers.. what a joke.
Well NBC news gave a fair and unbaised report of this tragic death. It must of been submitted by his lawyer.
Show arrestee in rear seat of squad car grimmicing for several seconds. Then female reporter states she will not show the rest of the video becuse the footage is so gruesome.
Reporter says (while she gives a disgusted look) that police refused aid to heart attack victim.
Then they put his grieving elderly mother on tv so she can demand the officers be charged as criminals.
Way to go NBC
What is your agenda?
You guys don't get it, and until you start to hold your fellow officers accountable for the truly stupid stuff they do, this will continue to happen. The video on this is gruesome. This guy died because a) he was an idiot, but also b) because the officers were caught on tape THAT THEY KNEW ABOUT not giving a shit about what he was doing, even after seeing him choking. These officers would have been selling their homes to pay the punitive damages that would have been awarded by an infuriated jury, and the City would have been on the hook for far more than 1.3 mil. It's all about the video. That's why it was settled early. Just once, try to have an objective bone in your body. See what it feels like.
so do you work at the sun times or the tribune???? maybe channel 7 or 5???? which one is it?
Heroin was in his body during the foot pursuit....... This city bliws
Hey I am not a cop but do know one thing, if I ever want to end it and commit suicide I am going tio make sure that I get arrest and then do it at the lock-up so that my family too can get a nice payday.
!.3 million is probably more then him and his whole entire family would make over the next 1000 years. What a payout. Can I get some too.
The taser was a drive stun so there's no necessity to call CFD
Some people get deathly sick on this job and require long term care for one fucking instance. So a stupidfuck like you thinks you're "all good" when you get something such as.... oh let's say fucking Pancreatic Fucking Cancer and it takes you out for almost a solid fucking year to go through Chemo, Radiation & Rehabilitation.
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Not a cop.
It is probably better if that kind of situation is handled as a long term disability case rather than a sick leave type case.
Part of the problem is that the medical policy has mixed together things that are really workman's comp type stuff with the common cold and what most people would see as long term disability issues. Some of that is probably unavoidable due to the nature of the job. Cops are forced to deal with a segment of the population that exposes them to things most of us would not choose to be exposed to, so a more generous than normal sick day policy makes some kind of sense. There is really no way to know if a cop got a cold from his kid or because he was exposed to it on the job.
It is probably in everyone's interest to find some answer that makes more sense than what exists now, and the financial straits the city is in may well lead to a cheaper answer, if not a better one.
It is never helpful to have people gaming the system. But it is something that is almost universal. I suspect the bright light being shined on the abusers at present has more to do with posturing than anything else, but that is part of the game too.
City is going to wait until after the settlement offer is accepted before deciding what action to take against the officers so as to not trigger an even bigger pay-out.
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My guess is they are done and will be lucky to escape criminal charges.
Despite the lowlife getting what he deserved, they screwed the pooch bigtime. The city can't just ignore that. This is not a mistake that can be argued away. It was a deliberate action on their part, something they chose to do, in violation of the rules. That is going to be really tough to get past.
I hope they have been smart enough to retain counsel to look after their own interests and are not relying on the city or union attorneys.
Maybe they can make some kind of deal. Claim PTSD or something and get pensioned off. Might even be true. PTSD might save them from criminal charges.
ehhh... no they wouldn't fucktard.
Some people get deathly sick on this job and require long term care for one fucking instance. So a stupidfuck like you thinks you're "all good" when you get something such as.... oh let's say fucking Pancreatic Fucking Cancer and it takes you out for almost a solid fucking year to go through Chemo, Radiation & Rehabilitation.
So a fucktard using your fucked up logic would then never be allowed to ever again go on the medical for any fucking thing again in his career lest he be fucking fired.
As previously stated, your fucktard idea is just that, fucktarded. And only a fucktard no-timer like yourself would be so fucking stupid as to vote to give away a fucking medical system that is necessary for some people on this fucking job.
9/08/2011 07:21:00 PM
Thank you.
9/08/2011 09:19:00 PM
Congratulations! A new record. You used a variation of the "f" word a total of 15 times in one short entry. You did us proud. It kind of makes a person feel all warm and fuzzy and think of the good things in life like puppies and kitties and other stuff. You must be an accomplished motivational speaker? Multiple uses of the "f" word for emphasis was a STROKE of genius.
Great idea, if it works. Hell, that would be great to cap these mutts and payout the 1mil. Kinda like a permit for putting down these dawgs. That will be a nice new unit for CPD. Good idea, let's roll with it.
1) Started this job 15 years ago, wow, shit I'm old. One of the first things I learned from my uncles (who were either on the job here with CPD or on the job with feds after CPD). Let's be realistic, this job is ALL CYA. Idiot says, "I'm having chest pain." You think..well, yeah and I'm the Queen of Sheba (at least me, anyway) whatever. Take his/her ass to the hospital, call an ambulance what-the-fuck ever and move on. He may be bs-ing you to get out of going to jail. Or he may BE having chest pains. Either way, I'm not gonna have some jackass ruin my life cause I failed to follow due diligence. Fuck that! I WORK for my $$, this scumbag isn't going to get rich off of my laziness. Ignorance, maybe, but not laziness or incompetence due to lack of trying.
2) To the 2 officers bickering about someone getting a ticket for a cell phone. Seriously?! Do the crime, pay the time. Yes, I do abide by that. If family calls, cause they have an encounter with a fellow LEO and get busted for something. I listen to both sides, and if there is a reason your ass is in jail (and it wasn't simply because you were a jackass and it was officers call - that, hell. If you (family/friend) WERE a jackass, then sit your ass in jail. But both sides were grouchy, then MAYBE something can be done. I'm sorry, but having family "on the job" doesn't give you license to break the law or to be a dick about it.) If I encounter people like, my so and so is on the job (and they are being grouchy). I say ok, give me their name and number. I call them from the vehicle and say, listen this is so and so I have so and so with me. I got them for whatever; normally, I would do this, but because they are acting this and this way I honestly would be more inclined to do this. I've had the on the job relative respond to my location a couple of times and bitch their family out more than I probably would have done anyway in situation. Like the responder to the original post said, there is always at least two sides to every story. Usually, the person's family will indicate, yup...I was an ANGEL (halo appeared above my head, with a chorus playing as I was sweetly talking to the officer). Rarely, is that the truth. Let's stay safe out there.
The South African Warrior shalt skate again.
Explain that one please?
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If you don't know TeflonMarty™, then you don't know his skating non-stick sidekick.
To the P.O. that bitch about a love one getting a ticket you sound like are next future superintendent.
Another example of how the cameras are there for our SAFETY just like they said
9/08/2011 05:56:00 AM
...I am confident as I scroll down that you have heard plenty of grief - and for that, I am pleased. I find it extremely hard to believe a 'citizen' such as yourself when you try to make judgments based on reading a Sun-Times article...really?...
OT national average may be 14 days off sick , but most of these workers do not receive pay . That's the difference.
If Rahm gave us all 300 days at the beginning of our careers ,
95 % of us would save them for emergency . The abusers would use them all within 10 years .
I think most officers would approve that medical roll plan .
9/08/2011 09:05:00 AM
You must be one of the new hair gel non thinkers. I had cancer which required 2 major surgeries and 8 months of chemo. If I had been given 300 days of medical when I came on 25 yrs ago all of my sick time would be gone. The medical roll is something that our union traded for instead of a wage increase. One serious job related injury, such as a broken limb or bullet wound can have long term repercussions, such as arthritis or nerve damage. WE MUST NOT GIVE UP THE MEDICAL ROLL.
Anonymous said...
The State should come after the family for repayment of all of the public aid he/they received. After that is all paid back then the lawyer and the family gets paid. Watch these lawsuits drop...
9/08/2011 09:11:00 AM
Great Idea, after all we have to pay back the city when we receive any monitary settlements. I agree with this post, the state should make this family pay back a portion of the money that he has received.
Ronnie and Alex -
For as long as I am here - I'll have your backs!
Mary
This so unbelievably wrong it defies logic. The judge, attorney's etc. ought to be investigated.
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