Hey Look! Accountability!
One Chicago Police officer went shopping at a suburban mall.
Another grabbed some food at a restaurant.
And a third officer took a trip to the Caribbean.
That’s what the Chicago Police Department says. And the problem is the officers were all on sick leave. And they were required to stay home to recuperate unless they called a supervisor first to say where they were going.
Police investigators conducted surveillance and documented them leaving their homes. But none of them contacted their supervisors beforehand, the department says.
Those cases are among about 1,800 that have been investigated by the department’s Medical Integrity Unit, which was formed in 2009 by former police Supt. [J-Fled] Weis.
As a result of the investigations, the department is seeking to fire 14 officers for alleged violations of the medical policy. Another 19 face possible suspensions and about 70 have received lesser forms of discipline, according to the department.
They even outline some of the violations. And wonder of wonders, the Police Board actually metes out appropriate punishment in some of the cases. But guess what else?
- During the next two months, the police board will hear four other cases in which the superintendent is seeking to fire officers for allegedly violating the medical policy.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 6:31 AM
220 Comments:
Hey weese fuck you ya beedy eyed fuck head.
From a retired P.O.I retired after 31 hrs.in a blue shirt and always in the trenches.Let's cut the bullshit and tell it like it is.Break it down for the media as to sex and race of those abusing the medical.You'll see these politicians drop this one like a hot potato.I watched it for over 30 hrs. And I'm sure it has',nt changed.
Sorry, SCC, but if the guy did go to the Caribbean, he handed the paint brush to the media himself. Got no sympathy for him/her.
Nice job Integrity Unit.
Be careful what you wish for, this will just lead to a sensationalized media frenzy that shows us in a bad light.
The current system works out good for the department. The department does not have to pay out unused sick days at retirement. If the department gives 12 sick days a year..like many other departments, you will have many officers using those days. Right now, many officers don't take ANY sick days. The department should get rid of the slugs who abuse the system. There are people who always call in sick on Friday or Saturday nights. These people need to go..not the medical policy.
Few would attempt something so stupid as to leave the fucking COUNTRY while on medical leave. Must be a clout child.
This was long overdue to hold officers accountable for the medical roll policy. We all know who the abusers are so why not follow up and make them either conform to the policy or face discipline? The abusers are a small percent but still give officers a had name. Next, please examine the light dity status policy. Officers that hide behind a bullshit light duty to avoid any details.
HO HUM
THE CITY LOOKED AT THIS QUITE A FEW TIMES GUESS WHAT THEY FOUND.
IF THEY GAVE EVERY OFFICER 12 DAYS SICK TIME MOST OFFICERS WILL USE TIME OFF.
REMEMBER HALF THE MEMBERS DONT USE ANY SICK TIME.
AND ALL THE OFFICERS WITH CANCER, SPINE PROBLEMS, AND OTHER SERIOUS AILMENT WILL THEY GET DISABILITY PAYMENTS?
AND THOSE LOVELY OFFICERS WHO GET PREGNANT WHAT ABOUT THEM?
ITS NICE THE CITY WANTS TO FIX UP THE BIG BAD POLICE DEPARTMENT....
LET THEM 12 DAYS PAID SOUND FAIR OF COURSE THEY ARE GOIN TO NOT WANT US TO USE THEM SO THEY WILL LET US CARRY THEM FOREVER!
ONCE AGAIN SUPE MAC ONLY READING HALFWAY INTO HIS BRIEFING PACKAGES THAT RAHMS PEOPLE COACH HIM ON!
LETS PUT EVERYONE ON MID-NITES THAT'S WHEN MURDER OCCUR
WHAT A HANDJOB!
FIRE THESE ASSHOLES, they are making us look bad and fucking shit up for the rest of us that actually use medical when we are actually sick
This story is factually untrue concerning the origin of the Medical Integrity Unit. It was actually initiated under former Supt. Phil Cline, and Former ADS Anne
Egan (she was one of the first demoted when Weis took the helm as Supt. of CPD) oversaw the unit. Whoever wrote this story for whatever paper did a real shitty job of checking the facts. But it doesn't surprise me that the WEISel would attempt to take credit for its formation. And whoever heard of firing someone because they went outside and cleared their walk of snow? Did this woman live alone, or was she a single parent with small kids? Who else was going to clear the snow? If Weis pushed for her to be fired, it just goes to show what a slimy, petty assed motherfucker he was.
I'm a retired CPD officer. You can count of the same people hitting the medical to extend their days off. Some think that it is something that they are entitled to. For years there has been talk of limiting medical time as the private sector has. A few are going to ruin it for the hard working officers out there. Fire the deadbeats.
Mr SCC, I agree with you we will see additional stories relating to this topic because the city will be in negotiations about the Medical Policy. Rahm leaks the stories so the the public can prosecute is first and then te Mayor will finish us . Exactly like shortshanks!
Never let a good crisis go to waste!
City to eliminate admin pay for supervisors.
No longer will Chicago Police supervisors receive .75 a hour daily unless they can document their time.
Now I know why they put the new "swipe" machines in the station.
Sergeant for three years and already getting screwed over.
The vast bulk of the rank & file would have no objections to modifing the utilization of the medical roll. We all know that many of the so called medical roll abusers are in fact abusers and they should be fired. This same group of individuals do little or no work when they actually show up for duty.
The asshole who went to the Carribean should not only be fired but also should go to jail!
Bump.
nonymous said... Heard a rumor today, yes just a rumor but one worth researching. Some one from city hall has told some officers that the Mayor is putting the aldermen on notice, he's going to start our contract negotiations with a proposed 10 percent pay cut for CPD.
Haha. F u. U think i'll ever do anything???
The policy is good in a sense to catch those that abuse it. A head cold is not going to cause someone to be bed-ridden as the Dept thinks and really the need to call a supervisor to let them know you will be in front of your house shoveling snow? INSANE! To stop for food?!? Stop at school?!?INSANE!
Do you think the desk gives a rats ass about calling in when you leave AND when you get back? I have called and been checked only to find out the desk never documented my call.
The people that are sick with the flu.. fever, puking, pooping don't need a Sgt to come by and do a damn home check three times a day. How about let these people rest and stop harassing them!!!! If I am sleeping I am not answering the phone or the door. Mark me Absent!
Do they want you to come to work with an upset stomach so you can puke or shit yourself while in the middle of a domestic. We get two 15 minute breaks and a 1/2 hour lunch. If you have to stop multiple times due to your "issue", you will get written up if you don't call in your extra pit stops during your tour.
If you want to sit outside my house & wait for me to leave, you can. Don't Ring My Doorbell!
OT:
If I were running for office this would DEFINITELY be on my "to do" list. I would call it the "Don't feed the birds" approach.
Look at what MI just did.....
LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Gov. Rick Snyder on Tuesday signed into law a stricter, four-year lifetime limit on cash welfare benefits, prompting advocates for the poor to warn that tens of thousands of residents will find themselves without cash assistance on Oct. 1.
Michigan's first-year Republican chief executive said the state will offer exemptions to the limit for those with a disability who can't work, those who care for a disabled spouse or child and those who are 65 or older and don't qualify for Social Security benefits or receive very low benefits.
Some recipients who are the victims of domestic violence also may be temporarily exempted.
"We are returning cash assistance to its original intent as a transitional program to help families while they work toward self-sufficiency," Snyder said in a statement. He noted that the state still will help the poor by offering food stamps, health care coverage through Medicaid, child care and emergency services......
The new law will reduce the number of children and adults receiving cash assistance by nearly a fifth, from more than 221,000 to around 180,000. Enforcing a four-year limit will save the state more than $60 million annually, according to a House Fiscal Agency analysis.
so you basically have about 100 officers facing either firing, suspension, or disciplinary action--- not bad for a 10,000 something member department--- what did it cost the department to trap these 100 officers--- how many people are assigned to the medical integrity unit--- they obviously have covert vehicles, video equipment, and make lots of overtime--- maybe they can expand their horizons a little and become the "full tour of duty integrity unit"--- start following around all the people who have never worked an 8 hour shift in their career......
I've disagreed with this department on many things related to administration over the years, but can not find fault with this. If the abusers are appropriately punished it will send a clear message to future potential abusers. On the other hand I believe that there will be accusations of both racism and sexism in this regard. I hope that the department will not waiver when confronted with this.
How about a FOIA of what race, sex, average time spent on the medical and for what reasons????
Ahem, I think we all know who the majority would be
Citizens are outraged at CPD's medical policy . Most thought officers received up to 365 days over their entire career .
It's gone , thank the medical roll abusers . They should be fired.
15 years on and NEVER spent a day on the medical.
The medical is there to be used if need be, but I think we all know that it is abused by a small minority.
Me, I Have ZERO sympathy for those caught abusing it. I really don't care if they are fired because they do nothing but burden the rest of us with having to pick up their slack
OT - I'm sick of seeing these Department of Revenue walking up and down the street looking to ticket taxpayers. Why don't I ever see them walking the streets where I work? Anyone?
They did an investigation into abuse and THEY FOUND A PERSON SHOVELING SNOW! That's what you get with a FED investigation. Goes back to J EDGAR HOOVER days.
My god, u think this was an investigation into al-qaeda or something!
I bet J-FED approached the sun-times with this story. He just cannot keep his mug out of the press.
Scc, accountability yes, but you didnt mention one of the more ridiculous violations. Unlike supt weisel, most of us have no snow service. A p/o got caught up cleaning snow from in front of her house, while on medical w/ a sinus infection. She didnt call her supervisor to let them know she was in front of her house cleaning snow. Got called from several friends on that one. They asked if when a p/o calls in sick if they are under house arrest. Yes, they pretty much are, a p/o has to call his or her district, depending if your stationary/ambulatory, to let the department know when they go to the pharmacy, pick up kids from school etc. and how long it will take. These friends all work in the prívate sector, have personal , vacation, and10-12 sick days and they never heard of that. No they dont work @ walmart, but they work in professions, considered careers, much like those that have chosen law enforcement. They freaked @ the 365 days, every 2 years, but i explained unless a p/o is pregnant, has a broken anything, cancer, or other acute/ cronic diseases, most dont even use the medical, even when they should. How many of us have worked with a p/o, so sick with fever, coughing, sneezing, etc., sleeping the shift, when he/she should have stayed home. Accountability, is very important, but not at the expense of sensibility. Flying to punta cana, big violation, handle accordingly. Cleaning snow, with a sinus infection, in front of your house, while not calling your supervisor, because no one else can plow the snow, but you, sand bagging. Supt Weisel should have fired himself for that one. Oh wait! He's already been fired, i guess the idiot police hater frank main had nothing better to do, but to beat a dead horse. God bless the CPD and CFD. Now with the homeless police districts/shelters coming into fruition, please becareful and safe.
What is abuse of the system? Hard to define, but the courts have left some guidelines. You can be on the medical roll and go to vote, go shopping for food and clothing, go to a restaurant to eat, pick your kids up from school, all you have to do is notify your unit first. But, someone working a part-time job or leaving the country ( people are granted this to recuperate) for vacation, yes you should be fired. You say you want reform? Then lets have some suggestions instead of just comments for reform. The only thing the FOP has ever said is to go after the abusers, never any concrete ideas of how to do that. This unit formed by Weiss is doing just that and spending a lot of time and money to do this. And, you can bet the medical leave policy will be dramatically changed in the coming years.No way in hell will it remain 365 days every two years.
About time. I work at 376 (callback/311) and am sickened by several officers there who are obviously medical abusers. They make the many others there who really are injured/sick look bad. Most of these medical abusers have been on medical time more than they have ever worked the street and are a pathetic example of a police officer. Get rid of these lazy pieces of shit.
The medical policy saves the city money. I repeat, IT SAVES MONEY!
What would happen if an officer injured his knee in a softball game or broke his leg on his motorcycle? In a regular policy, the employee would use all his sick time and then all his available vacation and then all his comp time before going on a no pay status.
Because officers have extended medical available, the city can restrict carryover of vacation time. The city also does not have to pay out on sick days (like teachers). In the current system, the city does not lose money for medical time, it loses work. Work it would never get anyway from those who abuse the medical.
The system is ideal for both the city and the police. Police work cannot be done by the sick or injured, which makes it different than most other jobs. The current system allows the legitimately injured PO the opportunity to heal and it allows the city to simply carry any employee with no extra out of pocket costs. The rare occurrences of abuse are easily identified simply by flagging frequent medical use and monitoring those officers.
The worst case scenario is the few lazy cops, who should have never been hired in the first place, are not at work. Not that having them at work is a benefit to the city anyway. It's actually more of a liability.
This is the start of R.E.'s second "shock and awe" campaign to soften up the target, just like his campaign against the teachers. The shorthand is
Teachers = greedy, lazy
Police = violent, racist
Get going with the positive messages. Shouldn't be too hard now with the 9/11 anniversary. Keep up your own drumbeat.
Find as many new and old media channels as you can to distribute your message b/c the Trib is all locked up.
Time to review the FOP's lobbyists, if they aren't moving now with an aggressive communications campaign, get rid of them.
Off topic: I have asked this question of several different people, including Alderman Arena. Can you find out:
What happens to the salary of the police officer that retires? I know it doesn't go toward his pension. With this money they could hire at least 2 police officers to replace him/her, without hurting their precious budget.
I live in 16 and used to see police presence everyday, now I don't. Very seldom do you see a squad car on my street anymore.
I asked our old good for nothing alderman Levar, and he just smiled. I asked Alderman Arena, and he said he'd check into it, but nothing ever happened. Someone I know asked the FOP, and never got an answer. Where does it go? We need police in this area, we are starting to have problems. One of them namely a Silver Nissan with a black man robbing white people.
Nice try Rahm, sick days is phase one of an all out attack on our job, with the pension being the main goal. Look at Rahm and the news media to point by point, dismantle every benefit we have fought for. The attacks in the media are meant to turn public opinion against us, and to make any type of protest against him impotent. Now is the time for the F.O.P. to retaliate and respond.
This is the same unit that moved to fire a PO who subsequently got her job back after they thought they were filming her yet it was not her...Thats the kind of thing that unit does. Yet when a clear cut abuser who left early day after day at call back to allegedly go to physical therapy , was clearly on bs, they did nothing....
OT, but important. Someone posted on another thread that Rahmmy wants to enter negotiations with an offer of a 10% pay cut. Beale wants to take away our uniform and duty availability money.
I say, don't give them any ammunition.
Write every little thing you see. No passes. A car is parked 14 feet from a fire hydrant-write them. Any part of a vehicle extends into a bus stop or no parking zone, write them. A car's plates are expired by one day-write them. The city sticker is anywhere but the lower right hand corner-write them. Multiple, expired City Stickers-write them, it is illegal to display an expired sticker. Lane change or turn without signaling-write them. A cigarette butt comes out of a car window-write them. Every little thing, write them.
Don't let the politicos get away with saying we are overpaid and don't do anything. Make the public pissed at them.
Flood the system, then they (Rahm, McCarthy or Beale or any other Alderman) can't say we don't do anything. The public pretty much as a whole hate us anyways, so it really doesn't matter what we do.
If someone says anything, refer them to the Mayor, their Alderman or HackeySack. Tell the violator that City Hall, most Alderman and the Superintendant all say we don't do enough and you are just doing what they want you to do. They are the ones who say we are useless by their actions and words.
Fight back, don't go down without a fight. Rham hates us, he wants to take 10-15 thousand dollars yearly out of our pockets, Fuck Him. Fuck Beale, Fuck McCarthy.
Most important, NO PASSES to drivers with a Obama, Quinn or Emmanuel sticker on their car. Fuck them, they put us in this situation.
Another savage male in 016 stopped for commiting a theft at Montrose and nagle. The animals do not belong here. Educate your neighbors. Call 911
I hope the case where some copper ran out to grab a bite while on the medical is up for a minimal punishment. There's a big difference between being too sick to take a trip to the grocery store or a drive thru window and being too sick to work for 8 hours in a high stress environment making snap decisions that can effect the rest of people's lives. Or worse yet, being too sick to react to some savage who thinks it's open season on the Poilce. I agree wholeheartedly, fuck these abusers. These are the same mutts who are asleep in the hole when you're asking for some backup
It seems to take longer to investigate medical fraud then murders.
It is not as if public employee abuse of medical or workman's comp type benefits is anything new.
The city had a whole series of cases of people supposedly disabled that had full time positions with the county and were collecting a salary plus the disability.
back in the late 70s a whole bunch of state employees came under scrutiny for similar abuses. one guy was supposedly totally disabled but was filmed playing tennis dozens of times. IIRC, he actually ended up winning his case in the end.
it is harder to cheat on WC in the private sector but it happens there too. remember the fake doctor that took WC insurance companies for tens of millions in the 80s before it was discovered he did not have a medical license? I seem to recall he was only caught because he had privileges at one of the cook county hospitals and a nurse there got suspicious because of the large number of coffee enemas he ordered for patients. You might think that the first coffee enema that was ordered would have raised a few eyebrows, but it took took quite some time for them to catch on.
Off Topic...
Doing More with Less ...
Drive in Homicide in the 10th District...
Last night on the Third Watch a victim was shot in his car on South Kedzie and drove himself to the 10th District Station for the report where he expired.
In the future all homicide victims will be required to drive themselves to their local Chicago Police stations. No appointment necessary.
(OT) Will barry shore up the pension funds? Hire more Chicago coppers in his hometown? Most likely NO!
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/09/07/us-obama-jobs-idUSTRE78176520110907
I still have not used one single day on the medical and Im proud of it.. this crap of people not going to work because they have the sniffles or a cough is crap. I completly understand that if you truly are sick then by all means use the medical, thats what it is here for. If you feel like crap go ahead and use it. but these idiots who use it because they feel like a cough might be coming on or because they are hung over is crap... that is the reason that we are going to lose the medical system we have now. You mutts who abused the system are now going to ruin it for everyone. The guy who catches a bug or food poisoning that is going to take you out for two weeks to bad for you... west side johnny sh*t head had to go tot the Caribbean and didnt want to burn time so your out of luck... FIRE THEM ALL!!!!
It's about time!! Most of us who sparingly take 2-6 sick days a year and realistically probably needed to take more like 10 r disgusted by these abusers and dogs. Ironically most of the medical dogs are the same individuals who are even bigger dogs on the street. I am so tired of lazy, selfish, immoral individuals who abuse the system at the cost of others as long as they "got theirs". Time to weed out these pathetic excuses for police, unfortunately the powers that be will use this as a political tool which means we get f*#cked. As they say leave it to coppers to always screw up a good thing.
Accountability? Then the rest of us that don't hit the medical and do our jobs which continues to bring the crime rate down can expect more than just a spiffy no-absence certificate come contract renewal time?
Grabbing food is one thing, shopping at a mall is quite another
Well there is at least three officers in my ss Dist that have over a thousand. One has over3 thousand, yep 3 thousand.. WTF I did hear however that officers from the med/I unit were reassigned to patrol. O well many they got a few before they left....
Medical Roll abuse and Residency Violations should be instantly fireable offenses. They are areas where the Dept. is FAR more fairer than numerous other Police Agencies, and their rules are reasonable and logical. Fire all these goofs before they ruin everything for ALL of us.
I find the timing of this very suspicious, with the upcoming trial of William Cellini. Comparing abuse of the medical rolls with the BILLIONS in systemic theft and corruption is like comparing a person who eats a grape in the grocery store to the guy who hijacks a semi truck. This is what the media and the Unions need to focus on, and bring to light.
I have a better idea. Why doesn't the media run stories about the 1000's of P.O.'s that NEVER or HARDLY EVER use the medical.
The private sector gets on avg 12 sick days a year, and believe me, the employees use every last one of those.
I haven't needed to use the medical in over 5 years. I have been extremely blessed with good health as of late. And i'm not alone. The majority of the people on my watch either never hit the medical or use maybe 3 days a year or so, only when they are really sick.
So think about all that time they are getting back from all of us that don't use the medical. That would have been over 60 days off i would have used in the private sector.
Why doesn't the media do stories on officers like us??
Judge rules Northwestern students must turn over emails in murder case.
Let the games begin.
If they have medical reform does that mean we can start suing the city's insurance for our injuries/surgeries?
FYI Officers, went to the Award Ceremony this morning to receive an award, and was written up by an inspector. Nice way to reward hard work!
I still don't belive it....whatever happenned to the guy from 017 that was caught playing hockey while on the medical? I heard IAD showed up to one of his "all star" games w/ video cameras and everything.
and guess what hes back on the medical!!!
ya fire them mcpuppet cause that the only p.o's you can touch you rat..how about carother?
And, because timing is everything, you will see these stories dragged out over the next several months, leading up to contract negotiation time. Then we will hear about how police are such abusers of the system, they don't deserve a decent wage or benefits.
Remember this when your co-workers come down with TB or worse, working in disease and lice-infested surroundings thanks to the new policy to shelter the homeless 24/7.
good hope they fire the people that abuse it. ive been on the medical once in ten years for a surgery. some people never learn i guess.
How about Supt. Weis, and his gilfriend Masters, changing the rules so they could leave the dept. with huge overtime checks. Any integrity here? Hell no! The rules only apply to the little people working the job. Police bosses, and other city bosses, don't even bother to take vacation time. They are always on vacation coming and going as they please. Who the hell is watching them. Nobody! They don't feel well...they just stay home and use their cell phone to work.
You have to wait for these things to become a crisis before you do anything.
Bến Tre Province, located in the Mekong Delta area of southern Vietnam.
" One of the most famous quotes of the Vietnam War was a statement attributed to an unnamed U.S. officer by AP correspondent Peter Arnett. Writing about the provincial capital, Bến Tre, on February 7, 1968, Arnett said: "'It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,' a United States major said today. He was talking about the decision by allied commanders to bomb and shell the town regardless of civilian casualties, to rout the Vietcong."[1] The quote was distorted in subsequent publications, eventually becoming the more familiar, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." (via Wikipedia)
Once a crisis gets large enough that's how you win the hearts and minds of the people.
They get so fed-up they just want you to do anything because it's better than doing nothing and therefore you can implement just about any agenda that you desire.
What about the re-occurring IOD?
Get kicked off the Medical and sent back to a district, assigned to beat work, claim re-occurring IOD and get sent up to Review for 3 years.
Yet still able to leap and bound come quitting time.
Duty Available.....I think not.
There will probably be reform on that too.
Rahm , McCarthy
Fire every medical roll abuser .
Half of CPD never uses the medical
New contract should be 10 days for every year of service and that's it. Having a baby , take an unpaid leave .
New policy , No Police Powers when on medical .
They won't Fix the Medical.
They will use this as an excuse to take the CPD and CFD to the Medical Days Program that the Rest of the City uses.
7 hours Sick time Per Month.
Carries over unused time unlike Vacation at end of year.
Example? I carried over 115 hours of Paid Sick time Last year.
I have 82 hours of Paid Sick Time in reserve right now.
I don't need to call my Supervisor to ask to go to the store for juice or medicine or scotch.
And I don't have to show a Doctors Note if I miss less than 3 days in a row.
"The Medical" is too easy to Abuse, like it has been said around the City and on this blog for Years.
And it is abused...I know PO's from various districts know this to be Fact.
Legitimate coppers have been complaining/calling for crackdowns on medical abuse for a long, long time.
The sad part is you know Rahm or Beale was behind leaking this article. It plays right into Rahms philosophy of portraying us in a bad light to the public. Everyone knows that Rahm and Beale want to fuck with our medical leave policy.
Rotten bastards!
Good lord, just go away already,
I think the timing release of this is suspect.
The 'script' was written by Rham for this press release.
Maybe we should call him Rxham.
5% are chronic Medical roll abusers. The problem within that 5% are clouted ones who get by with being habitual malingerers. Therein lies the problem, hopefully this is a step in the right direction.
Bendover and let the political games begin! Citizens are going to be spoon fed by the media from downtown all the dirt that the dept has on the three legged dog, that can be dug up. No public support, then the aldertheifs will rape us into the poor house. Time for the union to step up and all the rank and file to stick togather in an organized assult against city hall. Who will be on the front lines at the G8 summit...Ald the tool talk out his 6% ass Beale or the the Chicago Police wearing our full gear, which in most cases exceeds $2000.00
O.T. check out this actual Amish wilding incident: http://www.wtae.com/r/29103230/detail.html#ixzz1XHKgb5qE
OT: Take a look at the latest at the Chicago Reader:
The latest scheme to spend public money on Wrigley Field is as bad as the team that plays there
By Ben Joravsky
Way to go people, 4 more years of lying to your face!
...Those cases are among about 1,800 that have been investigated by the department’s Medical Integrity Unit...
Does 1800 include all the medical checks requested by the integrity unit that unit supervisors actually complete???
did anybody keep an eye on j-fed on days that he was supposely sick & not at work? What did he do those days? I'm sure he never left his home & was indoors 24hrs a day
Just asking...if I am injured or even worse due to the lack of manpower because of the criminal neglect of the mayor and other powers-that-be to keep manpower at a safe level, can legal action be taken against them? While I realize that policework is inherently dangerous by nature, putting out solo cars and fewer cars because no police are being hired to replenish retiring officers, are they liable for damages if I am injured while performing a task that is maybe onviewed if I call for backup and there is no help nearby? This is the game that they want to play with our safety, what are the consequences to the city? I just need to know how to direct my wife in the event that I am catastrophically injured when it could have been avoided? I know...don't do anything without backup, but, I am the POLICE and sometimes shit happens and you can't avoid it and the instinct to take action just happens.
Down there today. Injured on duty . Now that this was the 4 th time since 2009 assorted broken bones torn ligaments rotten police health care but only 5 sick days in 13 years. This shits tough enough without abuse
I dunno 31 year retiree. In 013 3rd watch we have at least two who have been on the medical 5, yes 5 times so far this year. Both are white. One female and one male. Five times in less than a year.
Less than 1% of the entire department. You do the math with their figures as they say we have 13258 on the job and 105 abusers.
This comes out to .79%
more hype to kill our benefits Hey Shields where are you?????????????
Yessss....What are the races of the accused? I agree. This will be dropped like a hot potato. Working at 35/Mich in the Medical Section...I already know the answer? LOL!!!
Instead of a fitness test for money, why not give money to people that dont hit the medical. Just a thought for the bean counters.
18 years on, and I've never used the Medical! We get ribbons now for perfect attendence.
City to pay $1.3 million to settle drug-swallowing wrongful death suit
this is out of hand. as a department we are doing so many medical clearances just to cover the departments ass there better off having a doctor in the station.
NO PROBLEM!! Everyone just come to work sick, get your partner and everyone else sick from your virus. Good luck when the first reponders cant respond due to being sick from someone who was too afraid to use the medical because of all this bullshit publicity. Thanks a lot you piece of garbage medical abusers
Off topic......
Dear Mr FOP President,
I just got your fop cuurent update regarding the misinformation being pushed out by the mayor regarding our medical roll use by sworn members. I am glad you are speaking out strong against the eroneous info being put out there but i wish you would pass that on via the media be it news, radio, or newspaper. The reason i say this is because the only ones who read our fop website and its updates is us ... we need to be vocal more than ever and make it be known we will not be walked upon.
In years past the silence of the management of fop President has painted us in a negative light. We have to shed this now with contract megotiations and a budget thats in the toilet right around the corner
Please Mr President do not sit back and be silent ..Please be a strong voice for us as we need that now more than ever ...
There are many fine and dedicated men and women who go out and serve the city daily and we deserve the best representation.
Thank you for your time
And all please remember Free Bill and write Bill Cozzi
How is this info made public? Investigation by who? Sounds like leaks from within! Enemies amongst us! Beware! This is just the beginning of the END! Rahm will tear up the contract and spit in our faces! Englewood, everyone off to Englewood! No more bidding for shifts or units! Call in sick, no pay! No summer furloughs! Rahm The Slasher! (Daley) "Miss me yet?"
Funny how this out shine Daley's deposition. Every time the city use a misdirection play to take the light off them... Like hire trucks ...police SOS was put in the papers
Sex and race is very important. Ask Sgt. C. M-P who has 25 years on the job with 14 years (that's right 5110 days) on the medical. This Sgt. could give classes on medical abuse.
hate seeing that martian face of his. wish he would go quietly. he is gross.
Off Topic...
Doing More with Less ...
Drive in Homicide in the 10th District...
Last night on the Third Watch a victim was shot in his car on South Kedzie and drove himself to the 10th District Station for the report where he expired.
In the future all homicide victims will be required to drive themselves to their local Chicago Police stations. No appointment necessary.
9/07/2011 11:07:00 AM
LOL
it should read: while stnding in line for 45 minutes waiting for a report, the victim expired while the desk crew was busy having dinner. LOL
15 years on and NEVER spent a day on the medical.
dont worry, that all changes after that first colonoscopy.
FYI Officers, went to the Award Ceremony this morning to receive an award, and was written up by an inspector. Nice way to reward hard work!
If you can't show up in proper uniform, DON'T COME!
You're welcome!
Anonymous said...
FYI Officers, went to the Award Ceremony this morning to receive an award, and was written up by an inspector. Nice way to reward hard work!
9/07/2011 12:50:00 PM
why? what were u written up for?
In over 20 years on the job, I've hit the medical once. For a broken ankle. I have NO sympathy for medical abusers. None! Fuck'em!
Anonymous said...
Off Topic...
Doing More with Less ...
Drive in Homicide in the 10th District...
Last night on the Third Watch a victim was shot in his car on South Kedzie and drove himself to the 10th District Station for the report where he expired.
In the future all homicide victims will be required to drive themselves to their local Chicago Police stations. No appointment necessary.
9/07/2011 11:07:00 AM
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Levity!
HA!
Gee...now I can get that pep back in my step for the rest of the day as I view all the other depressing news around here...sigh....leave it to Dude to constantly amuse us!
What everyone should be upset about is that the FOP pays the legal bill for these medical abusers? Is this the purpose of the FOP legal defense fund?
I think it's time the men and women start looking over the expenses of the FOP Board? It seems like the non-elected Field Reps are spending our money like drunken sailors at a whorehouses. You would think these guys have stock in Apple with all the I-gear they've purchased. I heard FOP is sponsorIng an ultimate fighter because it's good publicity. Give me a break!
the 1st shot fired in the battle too screw us and the firefighters!
Instead of a fitness test for money, why not give money to people that dont hit the medical. Just a thought for the bean counters.
i have never abused the medical in my career. i, like most of us, have used it when circumstances called for it; flu, food poisoning , etc. I will say this, medical abuse enrages me and needs to stop. What needs to stop more than anything else though is the media ignoring the vast majority of us who do our jobs well while the media publishes conduct by a very small minority that tarnishes our image. our medical abuse is probably less common than medical abuse in the private sector. I could care less if the department fires the real abusers. They are mostly bad cops and useless on the street anyway.
One question I have for the media is this; why don't you ever publish the many ways that Chicago cops are treated worse than employees in the private sector. For example, when we are injured, and we are injured more often and more severely than most workers in the private sector, we must "go down" to the medical section to meet with an officer or civilian there before all our follow up treatments can commence. This entails waiting around and then meeting with an individual who may or may not be a nurse. Then we are referred to a physician contracted by the city. This physician may or may not be very good. All efforts to minimize the scope and depth of our injuries seem to be in place so the city doesn't have to pay for expensive follow up care. If we wish to see another physician we have to physically return to the medical section only to wait around again and say "i want to see another doctor". mind you in the normal world all of this could have been done over the phone but not in the strange world of the Chicago police department where it is institutionally presumed that the officer is exaggerating his injury and just wants to "remain on the medical". We then may get to see another doctor but chances are we will wait a week or two before we can be seen, all the while our injury may be worsening and the city is "winning" financially by delaying payment for treatment. After about 2 weeks, chances are we will start getting medical bills in the mail for our first doctor visits, despite the fact that we went to great lengths to explain to all the medical billing people that the reason for our visit was work related and that the city is the legally recognized responsible party for our bills. because the city pays their bills like crackheads wash their clothes, which is to say with no regularity, we then face the real possibility of our credit being harmed. If our injury requires physical therapy, we get to go to one of the clinics the city refers to but only for the amount of therapy the city recommends. often the therapist recommends a greater amount than the city or city referred doctor approves for in which case we have to return to the medical section and argue with the idiot behind the desk about what we need. lastly, the media will never report that unlike most workers in the state, our department is not part of the statewide workmens comp system with statutorily and almost automatically awards cash damages for specific workplace injuries. yes media, we get severely injured, and unlike construction workers or members of many other departments statewide we get no automatic compensation. since the chances of collecting in a civil suit from a felon are very small, we often live with lifelong pain and injury and get zero in compensation. are you listening media? are you going to publish the other reality of policework? the one much more common than the rogue medical abusers 9.5 and Gmac are singing about.
One last thing for JFLED, GMAC, and 9.5. You would have more credibility if in addition to starting a medical abuse unit you had started an "Integrity in the Treatment and Recovery of Injured Officers Unit" This crack unit could follow officers as they try to ask friends and relatives for rides to doctors appointments for their followup care for I.O.D.s as many cant drive due to their injuries. It would then intervene and offer officers these rides, as their injuries were duty related. This same unit would look into the shady medical educations and familial connections some city contracted doctors and clinics have with aldermen. It would then spring into action and re-refer injured officers to honest providers and subpoena alderman and ask them about these connections they have to half-doctors. It would accompany injured officers to the medical section and intervene when the community college dropout employees and supervisors there attempt to deny or delay needed treatment for I.O.D.s. It would provide child care when injured officers need babysitting and school pickups but are not available because of doctors appointments or surgeries related to I.O.D.s. Of course, in the interest of "integrity and honesty" all of this would be communicated to the media. Yes that is the challenge.
I agree with many of the posts that all of this negative media coverage is probably a back-door attack by Rahm Emanuel in advance, to get the public even more against us, for 2012 contract time.
I don't doubt the rumor that Rahm will ask for a 10% pay cut, either. Other cities around the country are doing it, and getting away with it. The best thing that the FOP can do is to stall the contract negotiations, something that the City usually does for us. Food inflation is already 20-30% for many items. The dollar's purchasing power is quickly vaporizing due to the Federal Reserve's "quantitative easing," and our hopeless national debt situation. Hyperinflation will probably occur in during 2013, or 2014 at the latest. When this happens, a 10% pay cut would seem downright unreasonable to the public, even if they don't like us. And remind everyone...why do the alder-creatures always get their 6% pay increase, that they voted for themselves?
Anonymous said...
18 years on, and I've never used the Medical! We get ribbons now for perfect attendence.
9/07/2011 05:17:00 PM
Who would wear a ribbon for perfect attendance? That is a grade school award and not for the police. Why should the department give such a bullshit ribbon when they did the right thing by not using the medical?
New policy , No Police Powers when on medical .
9/07/2011 02:36:00 PM
Yeah; I'm going to go running through dark alleys, pursuing suspicious men, when I'm home in bed with the flu.
Conversely, if I go out to pick up my antibiotics and some chicken soup, you damned well better believe I'm carrying, particularly in my more vulnerable condition.
Take your goofy ideas back wherever you came from. I'm thinking Jersey...
Liz said...
Off topic: I have asked this question of several different people, including Alderman Arena. Can you find out:
What happens to the salary of the police officer that retires? I know it doesn't go toward his pension. With this money they could hire at least 2 police officers to replace him/her, without hurting their precious budget.
I live in 16 and used to see police presence everyday, now I don't. Very seldom do you see a squad car on my street anymore.
I asked our old good for nothing alderman Levar, and he just smiled. I asked Alderman Arena, and he said he'd check into it, but nothing ever happened. Someone I know asked the FOP, and never got an answer. Where does it go? We need police in this area, we are starting to have problems. One of them namely a Silver Nissan with a black man robbing white people.
9/07/2011 10:11:00 AM
Liz the bigger question is where is the money for the 13500 budgeted officers? If we only have maybe 10000 where is the money for the 3500 not hired. Yes, you will be greeted with a smile but you (tax paying citizen) will never get an answer and either will we(the police)
A fella that works at the County jail tells everyone he was C.P.D for 32 yrs.Then we find out he only worked there for 12 yrs.and rode the medical for 20 yrs.only to have a miraculous recovery and then take his political suck ass job with the County.Some people have no shame.
I don't know who I have less respect for; J-Fled or the RATS who ran to him when he got here to tell him about medical roll abuse. I'm sure that did a lot for your careers. I'm retired now but when I was on the job and on the medical it SNOWED on my side walk. And (now please don't run to jody) I shoveled it! If I called the desk sgt. every time I left the house for some stupid reason he'd have me pushing a broom in the lockup.
Stop being so happy that your fellow officer has stepped on it. Just be true to yourself.
There was nothing worse then getting in the car with some arrogant PO who told you first thing that he had never been on the medical. I always wanted to give him a medal, glad to hear they have one now! This told me two things: 1) this guy never gets laid and; 2) he's gonna come to work sick and get me sick.
Get over yourselves and stop reveling in the misfortune of these officers. You never know when it will be you.
15 years on and NEVER spent a day on the medical.
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You damn sure never worked where I work. I've been hospitalized several times on this job.
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The Commander of 016 just put out an email to all of his supervisors basically telling them that robberies are on the rise so try to classify them as thefts instead. He used an example of gang bangers beating a victim and taking the property he "dropped" and says they need to "examine the motive". The motive was to batter the victim not steal his property so it's an agg assault and a theft NOT a robbery.
Good job Commander! Keep killing crime on the homefront and wonder why they don't send more P.O.'s to 016.
Or the abuse I witnessed PO broke ankle torn ligaments. 6 weeks doc states "if you can stand a little pain go back to work" PO reads doctor note states. "Ankle broken. Able to work " PO figures the Med section will advised another doctor Lmao nope. Sent back. Full duty with broken ankle its still sore But im working. LIFM
fire the everyone who abuses the system period.
City to eliminate admin pay for supervisors.
No longer will Chicago Police supervisors receive .75 a hour daily unless they can document their time.
Now I know why they put the new "swipe" machines in the station.
Sergeant for three years and already getting screwed over.
9/07/2011 08:38:00 AM
SORRY, no can do, it's a contractual issue. Read your contract.
Speaking of accountability, was at O'hare today, waiting for my wife to pick me up in terminal 3, who pulls up with a driver in a city vehicle? Supernintendo McCarthy! Do you think my supervisor from 007 would let me take a City vehicle, especially in these times of having to trim the fat and save money. Hey boss, leadership by example. That has been the problem with this damn job, two sets of rules. The next time my wife flies into the international terminal and i'm working, i'm taking my squad car to pick her up.
i believe all light duty officers should be removed from district and sent to call back .if they can't perform full duty they should not be in districts.
9/07/2011 09:06:00 AM
I'd also be willing to bet that the majority of the dogs are Exempt and Revrund picks.
On the bad side, we have to see and hear from J-Fled again. That guy just can't stop tooting his own horn......
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J-Fled is very agile & flexible !!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
You have to wait for these things to become a crisis before you do anything.
Bến Tre Province, located in the Mekong Delta area of southern Vietnam.
" One of the most famous quotes of the Vietnam War was a statement attributed to an unnamed U.S. officer by AP correspondent Peter Arnett. Writing about the provincial capital, Bến Tre, on February 7, 1968, Arnett said: "'It became necessary to destroy the town to save it,' a United States major said today. He was talking about the decision by allied commanders to bomb and shell the town regardless of civilian casualties, to rout the Vietcong."[1] The quote was distorted in subsequent publications, eventually becoming the more familiar, "We had to destroy the village in order to save it." (via Wikipedia)
Once a crisis gets large enough that's how you win the hearts and minds of the people.
They get so fed-up they just want you to do anything because it's better than doing nothing and therefore you can implement just about any agenda that you desire.
9/07/2011 01:35:00 PM
Peter Arnett should have been in the middle of the village when the bombing started. Hopefully holding the hand of Jane Fonda watching the shadows of a flight of B-52's darken the skies over their heads.
Few would attempt something so stupid as to leave the fucking COUNTRY while on medical leave. Must be a clout child.
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yea, you right because there is no way a non clouted person would abuse the medical. Good observation.
Any coppers still going to hit the medical to work a side job?
5% are chronic Medical roll abusers. The problem within that 5% are clouted ones who get by with being habitual malingerers. Therein lies the problem, hopefully this is a step in the right direction.
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I'm not sure if it's clouted or not clouted but I would bet that 90% of the time on the medical is used by 10% of the department. Before I retired I had foot surgery. After 23 years, it was my first time on the medical. Had a couple IOD's but no medical. The po/nurse showed me my file, it was a folder with five sheets of paper in it. And there are/were many thousands of PO's just like I was. Then she pointed to some other files that were as thick as a King James Bible. Or thicker. Believe me, it's a small group that does it. And I defy the city to publish race and gender records of abusers. It won't happen.
Give me ten retired PO's that I can hand pick, give me ten video cameras, and I'll clean that shit up in no time. And I'm no super sleuth.
God forbid someone should get really sick and have 12 days to use. A round of chemo can take six months or longer. Open heart surgery and recovery 6 months. The few will definitely fuck this up for the many.
Anonymous said...
City to eliminate admin pay for supervisors.
No longer will Chicago Police supervisors receive .75 a hour daily unless they can document their time.
Now I know why they put the new "swipe" machines in the station.
Sergeant for three years and already getting screwed over.
9/07/2011 08:38:00 AM
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I really wish people would stop with all the speculation of what "the city" is gonna do. The above benefits are in our contract and the city cannot just eliminate whatever they want. While I'm sure they'd love to do away with these benefits, it's not that easy. "F THEM"!!!
From a retired P.O.I retired after 31 hrs.in a blue shirt and always in the trenches.Let's cut the bullshit and tell it like it is.Break it down for the media as to sex and race of those abusing the medical.You'll see these politicians drop this one like a hot potato.I watched it for over 30 hrs. And I'm sure it has',nt changed.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
31 hours in a blue shirt huh. a pro after one week at work... hey try 31 years it makes more sense.
I dont care if he went to china..go after welfare abuser and ghetto rats..
good. fuck the abusers. ive been on the job 17 years and you can count on one hand the amount of days ive been on the medical...not saying you can't use it more , when you need it but not ABUSE it. and if you use it follow the rules...
I work in 017 where there are several hard-core medical roll abusers. The little guy manages to go IOD every summer, then gets his two vacations "owed" to him. On 3rd watch, 4 m/w p.o.s, 1 F/w, 2 F/4's have been off for months, +1 m/w sgt. recently returned from a re-ocurring IOD, all of them have thousands of days on the medical, several incidents thru the years, all highly doubtful. The rest of us stuck working all summer would love to see these faking POS get fired. These one-way asshats don't give a crap about any of us. Too bad they are going to ruin it for the ones that need it. We also have some seriously ill officers that deserve every medical day they can get.
Today, the Chicago Sun-Times reports that CPD Officers took an average of 11.6 sick days off in 2009.The United States Department of Health & Human Services reports that U.S. workers take an average of 14 sick days off per year. Truth be told, we are below the national average.
But the good news does not end there.The CPD counts our regular days off as medical roll time when we are on sick leave.Weekends and scheduled days off are not counted in the 14 days that the average American worker takes.When we remove those regularly scheduled days off from our medical roll use, the average Chicago Police Officer used only about 8.2 sick days per year.This figure is a substantial improvement over the national average.
Based on the stats, we really do have good reason to be proud of our work attendance.However, the Mayor clearly believes otherwise.His administration wants to portray the police as greedy and lazy, sitting at home faking illness and collecting a check. It's not true.But once again, rather than negotiating at the bargaining table, the City is attempting to negotiate our contract in the press.
just cause your medical doesnt mean you cant move and you have to stay in your house get rid of that..but some times your not allow to work cpd but what if your side job allow you.. why not..screw with welfare abusers..many of you guys are just like civilians...drink the kool aid... another ploy to disgrace us in the media. there more problems in the department then medical abuser.
how about we all go on welfare instead of medical..another ploy by department to discredit us for next contract.
wow went to the mall wow who cares. how many copper show up to work and dont do a god dam thing..
if your retired shut up and collect your check..you should be drinking a beer.
i been on the job 100 hundred years and never been on the medical...stupid here your ribbon..lol
hmm why dont you check out the investigator that are watch medical abuser im sure they work a full day or week..
Rahm is a master at leaking info to the press. He did it so well, while working for Bill Clinton, that Bubba no longer trusted him. (from Dick Morris).
So expect many leaks portraying CPD in a negative manner before contract negotiations.!
if your on medical you should call mcpuppet before you piss..
maybe if i was the alderman i wouldnt need the medical..another ploy..smoke and mirrors by mccarthy..hardly anyone is abusing the medical but jump on the bandwagon and bash cpd and..
i have been on this job for a long time and work hard for years if i want to use the medical just cause my balls ache i will.. kma..pay me..
whats next get rid of copper with lawsuit costing the city money..we need to stick togather and stop letting them pick us apart..
Medical role abuse is nothing new.
A study was done about eight years ago. The #1 abuser was the female black. The #2 Abuser was the male black. The #3 abuser female Hispanic. See where this is going. As a white male I wanted the results posted as I had 25 years on the job and used the medical for a total of 8 days that includes an elective outpatient surgery and recovery that needed to be done to be able to perform my job. You have to remember that many of the abusers of the system are protected by political clout. Once the study was done and a list was generated, it was never released, because of all the clout babies and their political sponsors would be publically embarrassed. Go ahead and file the FOI Request for the race and sex of the abusers and the reporting of the results will be killed by whoever you work for too. If you would have reported that the average US worker uses 14 sick days a year and the real number of sick days used by Chicago Police Officers is 8.2 days a year there would be no controversy, no story. Who cares about the truth, it doesn't sell newspapers.
Anonymous said...
How about Supt. Weis, and his gilfriend Masters, changing the rules so they could leave the dept. with huge overtime checks. Any integrity here? Hell no! The rules only apply to the little people working the job. Police bosses, and other city bosses, don't even bother to take vacation time. They are always on vacation coming and going as they please. Who the hell is watching them. Nobody! They don't feel well...they just stay home and use their cell phone to work.
9/07/2011 01:29:00 PM
Rahm caught onto that one. Effective now, City employees who are eligible to carry over V-Days can only carry over 5 of them. Just announced today.
Break it down for the media as to sex and race of those abusing the medical.You'll see these politicians drop this one like a hot potato.
GOOD IDEA!!!!!
I'm not a big G-Mac fan but was glad to see him state that it's a small percentage of us that abuse the medical.
Rahm would want the public to believe that most of us abuse the medical. That would help further his cause of wanting to change our medical.
“The investigations conducted by the Medical Integrity Unit show that the overwhelming number of officers on medical are on it for legitimate reasons."
Why aren't the Progressives focusing on that statement?
The system works but like anything made by man, it's not perfect. This is Rahmbos media blitz against us being done by his supportive propaganda machine, the MSM.
To all the critical PO's out there that seem to know more about medicine then doctors, pray that you never get a serious injury of a chronic illness.
We are going to do to ourselves exactly what the teachers have done. I will never understand why we always screw ourselves like that.
What about the retired, area 5 deputy cheifs daughter, from 017 who has been on the medical since febuary 2011, for a broken foot!!! She is walking just fine. How come they don't look at her!!!!!
Listen folks, I once was told to stop my conduct at an in service trainging class or I would get a CR #. Just because I told the instructor who was in the process of how many coppers were overweight,and that over 200 were on the medical everyday.I asked for a breakdown by sex, and race and he about SHIT, they don't want to face the fact that this is a major factor in everyday medical abuse.
Off subject… the FOP sent out an e-mail tonight (7 Sep) that only 70 PO’s submitted their PAR form requesting retirement under the 55-59 agreement for the paid medical benefit. The threshold is 100 that has to be submitted before 1 Oct. Please remember that this agreement ends on 30 Jun 12 and there is no guarantee that the shitty – oops – the city will honor the agreement after that date. Many think that it was written into the contract but it is only a “Memorandum of Understanding” which is basically just a side agreement. Think hard officers… this may not be offered next year. And the additional 2 ½ % really isn’t that much…..
The policy is good in a sense to catch those that abuse it. A head cold is not going to cause someone to be bed-ridden as the Dept thinks and really the need to call a supervisor to let them know you will be in front of your house shoveling snow? INSANE! To stop for food?!? Stop at school?!?INSANE!
Do you think the desk gives a rats ass about calling in when you leave AND when you get back? I have called and been checked only to find out the desk never documented my call.
The people that are sick with the flu.. fever, puking, pooping don't need a Sgt to come by and do a damn home check three times a day. How about let these people rest and stop harassing them!!!! If I am sleeping I am not answering the phone or the door. Mark me Absent!
Do they want you to come to work with an upset stomach so you can puke or shit yourself while in the middle of a domestic. We get two 15 minute breaks and a 1/2 hour lunch. If you have to stop multiple times due to your "issue", you will get written up if you don't call in your extra pit stops during your tour.
If you want to sit outside my house & wait for me to leave, you can. Don't Ring My Doorbell!
9/07/2011 08:47:00
Above is one of the few intelligent posts I've seen on this subject. This problem should also be able to be solved in a way other than by paying cops to sneak around following other cops who are sick. Police should be on the streets preventing and catching robbers, burglars,car thieves,rapists,killers and assisting victims of same. You should not be working if you have a head cold flu sinus infection whatever. It isn't safe driving for hours and dealing with potentially dangerous criminals. If you never get sick great. If you do go on the medical. I'd guess the average person gets sick 3 times a year at least some more some less. Set up a reasonable policy for minor ailments and give 12 days a year for those no drama at the medical section wasting supervisors time and the rest.For other medical issues you need a Dr note and depending on what it is you might be able to leave your house when necessary within reason.The current system is ridiculous.
Im all for firing medical abusers,as long as they can prove it,fuck u if u abuse the medical
All its going to take is for the city to drop this is when the dept fires one of these abusers and the lawsuit comes up for racism. Eventhough race took no part in the decision, the city will cough up the money then then give the asshole their job back. You know it will happen, its just a matter of time before it happens. At the end of the day, we all know the SEX and RACE of the vast majority of the abusers and their mentality of "Fuck it, I don't care its free time". Just like all those on that scam welfare system.
As soon as a gets to an average of 12 a day we are going to lose the medical.
Off subject… the FOP sent out an e-mail tonight (7 Sep) that only 70 PO’s submitted their PAR form requesting retirement under the 55-59 agreement for the paid medical benefit. The threshold is 100 that has to be submitted before 1 Oct. Please remember that this agreement ends on 30 Jun 12 and there is no guarantee that the shitty – oops – the city will honor the agreement after that date. Many think that it was written into the contract but it is only a “Memorandum of Understanding” which is basically just a side agreement. Think hard officers… this may not be offered next year. And the additional 2 ½ % really isn’t that much…..
9/07/2011 10:57:00 PM
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Couldn't agree more. I left just short of maxed out and 'blew' the last 2 1/2%. I can't begin to tell you how great it feels to be past all the b.s. Yes, it took a few months to get used to the idea, but it was the best decision I ever made. Plus, I'm making great money at a hobby I couldn't really pursue while working for CPD.
My health is better, my stress level is zero. Best move ever. And, if G8 and the Nato Summit aren't enough to make you go, I don't know what could do it.
look at the pill head playing hockey and the red barron out and about on his bike in 017
Speaking of the little guy from 3rd watch 017, he is iod for a supposed hip injury that is so severe and painful that he can't work..however, he hurt his hip years ago in a non work related accident and has been seen riding around the neighborhood on his bicycle this summer...yeah he is totally legit!! Gotta get the entire summer off..those 2 summer furloughs were not enough for him!
Anonymous said...
FYI Officers, went to the Award Ceremony this morning to receive an award, and was written up by an inspector. Nice way to reward hard work!
A shitload were written up because their uniforms weren't up to standards. Hey asshat, if you're gonna get an award, shine your shoes, wear the proper dress uniform or don't go to the ceremony. Now quit your whining!
A head cold is not going to cause someone to be bed-ridden as the Dept thinks and really the need to call a supervisor to let them know you will be in front of your house shoveling snow? INSANE! To stop for food?!? Stop at school?!?INSANE!
I agree, but I have to wonder if the P O in question here has a history of medical role abuse and that is why they were watching her house.
The answer to the compstat quotas
check out the
schoolcraft story
NYPD officer, Navy vet attacked by the compstat brass
Henry Ida Paul Adam Adam is an affirmative defense.
Violate it and its Ten in a federal and $25,000.00 EACH COUNT PLUS 10 X the award civil.
Make my day.
Don't call the company corporate doctors "DOCTORS" THEY ARE RISK MANAGEMENT ASSETS AND VIOLATING THEY'RE LICENSE'S
As FAR as light duty..if we were Firefighters the Illinois supreme court ruled that light duty is the option of the Firefighter sick or injured on the job!
IPRA IAD INTEGRITY UNIT AND CZAR 9.5 THINKS WE ARE ON DUTY/ RESPONSIBLE 24 / 7 / 365.
PAY ME!
OOPS! FORGOT FOP SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH J-FLED THEY CAN DO IT. DICHOTOMY AND THE 50 THIEVES SAID TAKE IT OR TAKE IT BUY SHORTSHANKS NOR THE 50 SIGNED IT.
CITIZENS! TAXPAYERS! AMERICANS! AND ALL PATRIOTS LETS MARCH TOGETHER ON our elected Officials and demand regress and that they keep their oaths to US and GOD!
OR: get out of our country forever and take your illegal alien traitors with you!
United we stand divided we fall!
That's not what I am seeing or hearing now!
Anonymous said...
OT, but important. Someone posted on another thread that Rahmmy wants to enter negotiations with an offer of a 10% pay cut. Beale wants to take away our uniform and duty availability money.
I say, don't give them any ammunition.
Write every little thing you see. No passes. A car is parked 14 feet from a fire hydrant-write them. Any part of a vehicle extends into a bus stop or no parking zone, write them. A car's plates are expired by one day-write them. The city sticker is anywhere but the lower right hand corner-write them. Multiple, expired City Stickers-write them, it is illegal to display an expired sticker. Lane change or turn without signaling-write them. A cigarette butt comes out of a car window-write them. Every little thing, write them.
Don't let the politicos get away with saying we are overpaid and don't do anything. Make the public pissed at them.
Flood the system, then they (Rahm, McCarthy or Beale or any other Alderman) can't say we don't do anything. The public pretty much as a whole hate us anyways, so it really doesn't matter what we do.
If someone says anything, refer them to the Mayor, their Alderman or HackeySack. Tell the violator that City Hall, most Alderman and the Superintendant all say we don't do enough and you are just doing what they want you to do. They are the ones who say we are useless by their actions and words.
Fight back, don't go down without a fight. Rham hates us, he wants to take 10-15 thousand dollars yearly out of our pockets, Fuck Him. Fuck Beale, Fuck McCarthy.
Most important, NO PASSES to drivers with a Obama, Quinn or Emmanuel sticker on their car. Fuck them, they put us in this situation.
9/07/2011 10:30:00 AM
...if I didn't know any better(and I DO) you would seem like a Dem. troll,...haha...
Anonymous said...
Another savage male in 016 stopped for commiting a theft at Montrose and nagle. The animals do not belong here. Educate your neighbors. Call 911
9/07/2011 10:38:00 AM
try to put a stop on him guy...it sux, try it and deal with the lawsuit...they will be there - because they can. (a frustrated Chicagoan (ss) in todays times...
it is harder to cheat on WC in the private sector but it happens there too. remember the fake doctor that took WC insurance companies for tens of millions in the 80s before it was discovered he did not have a medical license? I seem to recall he was only caught because he had privileges at one of the cook county hospitals and a nurse there got suspicious because of the large number of coffee enemas he ordered for patients. You might think that the first coffee enema that was ordered would have raised a few eyebrows, but it took took quite some time for them to catch on.
9/07/2011 10:52:00 AM
...yeah,...and he stopped jocking her and paying her off...
Anonymous said...
i have never abused the medical in my career. i, like most of us, have used it when circumstances called for it; flu, food poisoning , etc. I will say this, medical abuse enrages me and needs to stop. What needs to stop more than anything else though is the media ignoring the vast majority of us who do our jobs well while the media publishes conduct by a very small minority that tarnishes our image. our medical abuse is probably less common than medical abuse in the private sector. I could care less if the department fires the real abusers. They are mostly bad cops and useless on the street anyway.
One question I have for the media is this; why don't you ever publish the many ways that Chicago cops are treated worse than employees in the private sector. For example, when we are injured, and we are injured more often and more severely than most workers in the private sector, we must "go down" to the medical section to meet with an officer or civilian there before all our follow up treatments can commence. This entails waiting around and then meeting with an individual who may or may not be a nurse. Then we are referred to a physician contracted by the city. This physician may or may not be very good. All efforts to minimize the scope and depth of our injuries seem to be in place so the city doesn't have to pay for expensive follow up care. If we wish to see another physician we have to physically return to the medical section only to wait around again and say "i want to see another doctor". mind you in the normal world all of this could have been done over the phone but not in the strange world of the Chicago police department where it is institutionally presumed that the officer is exaggerating his injury and just wants to "remain on the medical". We then may get to see another doctor but chances are we will wait a week or two before we can be seen, all the while our injury may be worsening and the city is "winning" financially by delaying payment for treatment. After about 2 weeks, chances are we will start getting medical bills in the mail for our first doctor visits, despite the fact that we went to great lengths to explain to all the medical billing people that the reason for our visit was work related and that the city is the legally recognized responsible party for our bills. because the city pays their bills like crackheads wash their clothes, which is to say with no regularity, we then face the real possibility of our credit being harmed. If our injury requires physical therapy, we get to go to one of the clinics the city refers to but only for the amount of therapy the city recommends. often the therapist recommends a greater amount than the city or city referred doctor approves for in which case we have to return to the medical section and argue with the idiot behind the desk about what we need. lastly, the media will never report that unlike most workers in the state, our department is not part of the statewide workmens comp system with statutorily and almost automatically awards cash damages for specific workplace injuries. yes media, we get severely injured, and unlike construction workers or members of many other departments statewide we get no automatic compensation. since the chances of collecting in a civil suit from a felon are very small, we often live with lifelong pain and injury and get zero in compensation. are you listening media? are you going to publish the other reality of policework? the one much more common than the rogue medical abusers 9.5 and Gmac are singing about.
9/07/2011 07:09:00 PM
EXCELLENT post Sir, if not for the fact that you hit mostly all of it...you did leave ONE MAJOR thing out though...that being the City's way of not only adjudicating, but (forgetting) not offering the Medical offerings (Doctors) that one requests...as according to FEDERAL LAW...
"The Commander of 016 just put out an email to all of his supervisors basically telling them that robberies are on the rise so try to classify them as thefts instead. He used an example of gang bangers beating a victim and taking the property he "dropped" and says they need to "examine the motive". The motive was to batter the victim not steal his property so it's an agg assault and a theft NOT a robbery."
My how things change,when he was a Sgt in 017 he wasn't overly concerned about killing crime. Now that he has to face the music, he's singing a different tune.
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FYI Officers, went to the Award Ceremony this morning to receive an award, and was written up by an inspector. Nice way to reward hard work!
9/07/2011 12:50:00 PM
I heard this from someone else too...This is outrageous and I hope all officers boycott these award ceremonies from now on.
"We had to destroy the village in order to save it."
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We had to save the village in order to destroy it.
I hear "Red Lightning" in 017 was at the Dells going down the waterslides while he recuperates from his "serious" injuries.
Why all the fuss!!! you work for a city that tries to fire you for ANYTHING!!! your bosses dont back you and you cant take time due now because of man power....ANSWER..Hit the medical so what we all should be taking 10 days and teach the city what can happen
6 years ago I tore my ACL, MCL, PCL in my knee during a foot chase/tackle on the south side while working. The surgery was painful, the rehab was worse. My Doc asked me if I wanted to get back to work quickly or take my time. I was back and on light duty within 7 weeks and back on the street within 90 days! Never, NEVER, would I want anyone to question my work ethic. We're lucky to be employed. Say what you will, things could be much worse for us.
Perhaps the Medical abusers should have their records reviewed by the insurance company's doctors to see if there are legitimate reasons for the extended periods of absence, similar to what is done in Workers Comp cases to determine whether or not the claimed injury exists.
Without a doubt, IOD should be excluded - GSWs, car accidents, and the like are damn hard to fake.
Being out for an extended period for sinusitis is a joke! For [deity's] sake, go to an ENT doctor if it's that bad. Sinusitis is generally a self-limiting viral illness that should resolve in a week, no antiobitics needed. If it lasts longer, go see the doc.
Can the known abusers if no valid reasons exist; investigate their doctors to see if there is a good reason to bring cases against them to IPRA to lift their licenses; perhaps consider those days as ineligible for pension matching. As anyone can tell, I am not a cop, and these are just suggestions coming from my nether orifice...
The few abusers should not give Tiny Dancer 9.5 and the superretardo any excuses to spoil a valuable resource for the many of the courageous, hard-working CPD Officers who put their lives on the line.
Stay safe, and may you all go home to your families every day.
--Citizen
The little red baron in 017 brags about having 1 carpal tunnel surgery and making it IOD. He goes on to brag that it took him 11 months to recouperate.
Another copper in 017 had 8 hand surgeries of which 2 were carpal tunnel. He did not make it IOD, He was off a total of 7 or 8 months for 8 surgeries. And Captain Barnas wanted to make the copper with 8 hand surgeries a personal concern for medical roll abuse.
Let's cut the bullshit and tell it like it is.Break it down for the media as to sex and race of those abusing the medical.
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That will never happen. Although I agree--the few times I've had to go on the medical the lobby there was filled mostly with ________ who were ________. Fill in the blanks. I would do it myself, but I think SCC would toss my comment:)
I've got to say, I heard over and over again on the media reports that the percentage of abusers was small--but Rahm got the story out there, and his key comment was something about 'bring in line with other companies' and 'in line with what the public pays for.' Bye-bye medical. But in that case, he will have to give us something in return. FOP better get their ducks lined up...
I had a hand injury off duty. I didnt want to sit around at home and get fat. I asked if I could work lite duty. I was told no because I couldnt fire my duty weapon. I have all the emails from the correspndence with the medical section nurse. Now whats wrong with this picture? Arent guys at call back stripped?
This city is so fucked up.
Sorry, SCC, but if the guy did go to the Caribbean, he handed the paint brush to the media himself. Got no sympathy for him/her.
9/07/2011 07:01:00 AM
Um, where did you see SCC displaying sympathy for the abusers! Don't make it seem like SCC condones this behavior!
If you use your medical days at the end of the year just make sure you don't go out of the house!
The media has missed all those who *conveniently* went on the medical prior to promotional exams so that they could spend their days at home studying for the objective portion before knowing and blowing for the subjective portion......
We need police in this area,
( meaning 016) we are starting to have problems. One of them namely a Silver Nissan with a black man robbing white people.
Here is a suggestion. Everybody in 016 dont go to the polls for the next election. You will be amazed at how fast they turn shit around. They knock on my door constantly during election time. I just laugh and slam the door in their face.
City to eliminate admin pay for supervisors.
No longer will Chicago Police supervisors receive .75 a hour daily unless they can document their time.
Now I know why they put the new "swipe" machines in the station.
Sergeant for three years and already getting screwed over.
9/07/2011 08:38:00 AM
Can anyone confirm?
--not a sgt., not a troll...just wonder if the city can do that on its own...and when does it become effective?
The asshole who went to the Carribean should not only be fired but also should go to jail!
9/07/2011 08:39:00 AM
You are an ASSHAT. I hope you are not a copper.
Nice try Rahm, sick days is phase one of an all out attack on our job, with the pension being the main goal. Look at Rahm and the news media to point by point, dismantle every benefit we have fought for. The attacks in the media are meant to turn public opinion against us, and to make any type of protest against him impotent. Now is the time for the F.O.P. to retaliate and respond.
9/07/2011 10:25:00 AM
Since when do we have to care about public opinion? Daley never cared about public opinion when all of the scandals of his administration came to light!
Because politicians know the scandal will pass and the public has a short memory. Initial outrage, then complacency.
Since when has the public EVER liked us?
Get over it, this too shall pass.
The medical roll is a GOOD thing when used accordingly. However it is extremely flawed. The 008th District had a female P.O. now retired initials Y.D. (AKA The Tasmanian Devil, Troll, TWF). She would conjur up an injury (IOD) about the same time every year, and basically have the summer off. She was so good @ this that she was one of the many topics @ the old LEVEL III meetings at HQ. When the subject of her (nameless @ meetings for fear of slander and litigation) abuse was brought to the floor, the comments of the exempts was "She's learned how to beat the system". This same individual was also an FTO. I'm sure htat this is the type of abuse that the medical integrity unit is looking to curb. All can be said is: WTF!!! So if we look @ the numbers the majority are by the book Coppers, and then there are the bad seeds. Let's just root them out like weeds, and take the pressure off of the working P.O's.
That guy in A/3 who never gets injured in the winter but falls down a lot in june better watch his ass they on to you big boy...........
Red Lighting and the hockey playing goof from 017 are bffs and both have extensive medical histories from the many "battles" on the mean streets..they of course are still able to play hockey with the injured hand, ride a bike and walk the neighborhood with a severely injured hip and of course, go to the Dells and ride the waterslide..anyone looking into these "iod" abuses?
For example, when we are injured, and we are injured more often and more severely than most workers in the private sector, we must "go down" to the medical section to meet with an officer or civilian there before all our follow up treatments can commence.
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Not all that uncommon in the private sector either. Although often in the private sector it is done by phone because that costs less.
It is called "managing" the care. It is about trying to keep the cost as low as possible. Whether it really works at doing that or not is something else.
In any case, if you are on medical you are being paid, what do you care? It is not as if you have anything better to do with your time, so play the game and get better rather than fighting the system and aggravating yourself.
If it really bugs you, and you can get enough others to agree, get it negotiated as part of the next contract.
Actually, the city did a study on medical roll abuse in the late 80's and they did break it down by sex and race and rank and age. The results were so embarassing to certain groups of people that it was buried in the superintendent' desk. i know, I worked in the office at the time and saw the report. Black alderman did not like the results of the report and Leroy would not release it.
On medical this year, very sick and on meds. Time on medical happened to span my entire furlough time. So I lost the total furlough, 200 "furlough hours." Gone to credit medical time.
Neither Camden nor WBBM mentioned that this approx. 25 working days plus Regular Days off were all treated as medical days.
Also I have never been allowed to carry any vacation days over from one year to another. My name is not Weis.
was that a speedbump...
Rushing your rehab is a huge mistake, if you reinjure yourself because you are not properly healed you are back to square one. You are not doing yourself or the city any favors by rushing. Not only that but your injury will be classified as a reoccurence and instead of your medical time starting at day zero it will start at day 90. Working police worry too much about what their peers think. If you are hurt get healed, your body belongs to you not the city.
He used an example of gang bangers beating a victim and taking the property he "dropped" and says they need to "examine the motive". The motive was to batter the victim not steal his property so it's an agg assault and a theft NOT a robbery.
Good job Commander! Keep killing crime on the homefront and wonder why they don't send more P.O.'s to 016.
9/07/2011 08:05:00 PM
The motive was to batter the victim and the offenders did in fact batter the victim then it is a battery not an agg assault. And yes it is a robbery. Classify it on the case report as such. Don't jam yourself up for these dumbass bosses trying to kill crime. If an arrest is made go for the correct charges. Let the W/c, dics, or states attorney downgrade charges and let it fall on them.
Or the abuse I witnessed PO broke ankle torn ligaments. 6 weeks doc states "if you can stand a little pain go back to work" PO reads doctor note states. "Ankle broken. Able to work " PO figures the Med section will advised another doctor Lmao nope. Sent back. Full duty with broken ankle its still sore But im working. LIFM
9/07/2011 08:19:00 PM
So your ankle is broken and you are working on it? And you respond lmao!!! Who's the dumbass here then you or them?
Do you think my supervisor from 007 would let me take a City vehicle, especially in these times of having to trim the fat and save money. Hey boss, leadership by example. That has been the problem with this damn job, two sets of rules. The next time my wife flies into the international terminal and i'm working, i'm taking my squad car to pick her up.
9/07/2011 08:25:00 PM
Do you have any idea what he was doing there? Was it City business? Was he picking up an out of town guest of the City? You don't know do you?
Stop whining. There are plenty of things to worry about that matter. You sound like one of my kids. "But look what Johnny did!"
Hey Rhamster and the rest of the Lib-Tards out there questioning our medical policy...I'm currently on IOD and went to the city doctor and after three follow-ups and missing work for several weeks the "City Dr" asks me "You wanna come back and see me in 2 or 4 weeks?!" Really??? Clearly the system is broken and those with no "medical integrity" would take advantage. Some of us want to get back to work and this is just one example that the system is broken!!
FYI Officers, went to the Award Ceremony this morning to receive an award, and was written up by an inspector. Nice way to reward hard work!
9/07/2011 12:50:00 PM
Flip-flops are not approved for uniform wear, plus, you needed a pedicure. And, the toe-ring was over the top!
I remember I got kicked in the calf on duty which ruptered same. After sitting home in terrible pain for 3 days not getting a referral or any answer back from our beloved medical section. I called my family doctor who said to go to the emergency room immediately. He feared I had a blood clot. I went to the ER and the immediately did an ultrasound on my calf.
Can you believe that when I called the desk to notify them that I was leaving to go to the hospital they had me medical checked in the ER. The Sgt. from 016 was so appologetic. I just laughed and chalked it up to typicality. Its not fair to name the Captian that did this so I wont mention Frank Gross. LOL
Tomorrow I am having a 10MM piece of scar tissie removed from that same calf in the exact spot I was kicked. At first they thought it was a blood clot. I am doing it out patient on my RDO. It's being done by my family doctor. I dont want to deal with any BS going thru a reocurrin IOD. I will be on the job saturday with stitches in my leg. Especially because it will be the 10th year since 9-11. I have an easy out but wont do that since I have great bosses and my own self pride. Call me stupid if you want. I am by no means a company man. I am my own man and I just want to avoid all unnecessary BS for the little time I left in this circus!
Here's my concern...
Officer X picks a furlough... 14B
He/she, in anticipation of said (non-existent) '14B' furlough saves up to go to, DisneyWorld, Mexico, Europe etc.
Prior to said furlough he/she is injured... IOD or off duty, and breaks an arm, leg etc. or gets stitches all of which precludes him/her from being 'allowed' to come to work but still ambulatory.
Scenario: Said Officer X breaks his wrist while wrestling away a gun from an offender and put in a cast a week before his furlough.
He's put on the medical due to the cast.
He takes his prepaid (air/room/entry) family vacation to Walt DisneyWorld (with or without notice/permission) and returns home during his furlough.
Still in a cast he is off until he returns to work.
Now here comes those Sun-Times ace porters. They 'report' that Officer X who is absent on sick leave from the CPD went to DisneyWorld! The reading public is appalled.
This person has his/her medical time counted from the first day of injury, all through their furlough (personal time off)and any time thereafter to recover for 'statistical purposes.'
His otherwise unblemished medical record of 20+ plus years counts as 25-30 days off that year during their forced recovery.
My point... Crack down on all those medical abusers. We all know who they are. So does the Department. Twenty percent of the 'abusers' account for eighty percent of the time off. This is not to be confused with the 'legit' medical use. We are still under the National average in that respect.
Report THE FACTS, not convoluted events (above example) to put the CPD in a bad light at contract time.
The timing and accuracy is suspect.
Every response by the FOP should reiterate that 1/2 of the entire department haven't been on the medical. Those single digit 'abusers' are the exception, not the rule, and all the other hard working men and women despise these few.
But then again that won't sell newspapers. It will make the CPD look like lazy, conniving slackers giving credence to any city hall contract 'hit' on our salary, pension benefits.
End of rant.
FYI Officers, went to the Award Ceremony this morning to receive an award, and was written up by an inspector. Nice way to reward hard work!
9/07/2011 12:50:00 PM
I heard this from someone else too...This is outrageous and I hope all officers boycott these award ceremonies from now on.
9/08/2011 02:55:00 AM
why go? tell them to mail the damn thing....
Sex and race is very important. Ask Sgt. C. M-P who has 25 years on the job with 14 years (that's right 5110 days) on the medical. This Sgt. could give classes on medical abuse.
Thanx. I was trying to think of her...couldn't remember. Lest we forget the time she was caught with her dope dealer boyfriend, only after she'd shot him during an argument in his car. Anybody remember that? Insult to injury, before being promoted to Sgt, she'd been promoted to Det. All this after a couple of 30 and pendings? And finally her sexual harrassment lawsuit against DTEB, after their love affair went sour. This chick makes Henny Penny look like a standup gal. Yet she's been promoted TWICE. Don't worry, gang...It's all on the up n up.
Battle of the Phone Calls!!
the commander of 016 doesn't have to worry about killing crime--- he has the little "kung fu" redhead on third watch taking care of business.....
In 012 we have an asshole who goes on the medical every time the W/C tells himm he needs to wash his vest cover. He looks like pigpen and his mother does his laundry once a month.
6 years ago I tore my ACL, MCL, PCL in my knee during a foot chase/tackle on the south side while working. The surgery was painful, the rehab was worse. My Doc asked me if I wanted to get back to work quickly or take my time. I was back and on light duty within 7 weeks and back on the street within 90 days! Never, NEVER, would I want anyone to question my work ethic. We're lucky to be employed. Say what you will, things could be much worse for u
here your bozo button...no one cares...
I'll take the 12 sick days a year. The whole dept can get sick on New Years, Thanksgiving, Christmas, 4th of July, etc. Might as well close for the holidays!!! Savea few for things like the G8.
I can only speak for myself but when it comes to an IOD and you go see city approved doctors they do not care about your welfare. They just want to get you back to work. My own doctor diagnosed my problem 3 years after my IOD and told me if it was discovered in the first 6 months they could have done something for me. Instead I have chronic pain that gets worse every passing day.
Stay safe and back each other up out there. All you have is your family and your fellow officers.
I hope this isn't the worst cases of Medical roll abuse that were found! Eating at a restaurant is allowed but not calling in makes it a minor violation. Shoveling snow on medical also appears minor unless the PO was on Medical for some physical ailment(sprained arm, wrist, etc). Let's get those who are on Medical for "NO REASON". We all know who they are. The squad car accidents with little to no damage and officers off for months on end. Minor scratches requiring a bandaide are IODS with weeks off work to mend. Give me a break!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
15 years on and NEVER spent a day on the medical.
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You damn sure never worked where I work. I've been hospitalized several times on this job.
9/07/2011 08:03:00 PM
Medical and IOD are different.
In 10 years I have hit the medical for a total of 4 days for flu/colds. I also took the allowed 6 weeks after my child was born. So I have used 46 days in 10 years, which is still better than the 11 per year the paper quoted us each using. But as for the many claiming woman abuse medical more than most, I do agree, but some cases may be related to pregnancy and complications afterwards. It is not uncommon for females to need more than 2 months after a kid, so keep that in mind.
As for the poster who stated:
Sex and race is very important. Ask Sgt. C. M-P who has 25 years on the job with 14 years (that's right 5110 days) on the medical. This Sgt. could give classes on medical abuse.
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She should be fired for her abuse... not to mention she is a worthless sgt and bat shit crazy. She is an embarrassment to this department and all females on the job. She spends more time crying at work that someone hurt her feelings than actually working, yet the bosses seem to favor her over others. Someone called her crazy one day and her come back was "I have been psyched 5 times and am still here." Yes...you must be sane then! Crazy beotch.
There's alot of medical abusers in 7 1st watch, some cops get into a minor car crash then go on Iod for months then go on furlough then gets into another minor accident goes on Iod then gets off goes to las Vegas. U know this person is planning medical vacations for thanksgiving and Christmas and new years. Thanks for ruining our medical!!!
FYI Officers, went to the Award Ceremony this morning to receive an award, and was written up by an inspector. Nice way to reward hard work!
9/07/2011 12:50:00 PM
I heard this from someone else too...This is outrageous and I hope all officers boycott these award ceremonies from now on.
9/08/2011 02:55:00 AM
I don't get it -- what's wrong with flip-flops, a zipper sweater and my baby blue riot helmet? Should I have worn pants?? This department is out of control.
Anonymous said...
FYI Officers, went to the Award Ceremony this morning to receive an award, and was written up by an inspector. Nice way to reward hard work!
A shitload were written up because their uniforms weren't up to standards. Hey asshat, if you're gonna get an award, shine your shoes, wear the proper dress uniform or don't go to the ceremony. Now quit your whining!
9/08/2011 12:01:00 AM
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ya, I kind of feel the same way. Ever been in the military? Try whinning there ...
Do you think the desk gives a rats ass about calling in when you leave AND when you get back? I have called and been checked only to find out the desk never documented my call.
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Ha. Maybe we should call 9-1-1 ...it's recorded. I am going to the store now.
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