Redistricting Coming?
We don't doubt that there is a wholesale plan to redraw all the beat boundaries at some point in time. The question is when does Rahm pull the trigger? Uptown Update has a clue to the future. Maybe. We're going to post the whole thing:
- We received this from someone who wants to remain anonymous. We don't know how true it is. We trust this person has contacted the appropriate alderman about his/her concerns."I am a police supervisor who has been studying the department's proposal to consolidate police districts, specifically 19 and 23 come the first of the year. When that happens us Uptown residents will barely see a police car. Now, the 2 districts have a total of 18 beats. When consolidated, the new district will have only 15 beats, a loss of 3-6 officers per watch.
Uptown, now comprised of 3 police beats from 23, will become a single beat in the new district. This means a loss of 3 (on days) and 6 (afternoons and midnights) officers per day. And let's not even talk about the tactical teams who will now be working an area 3 times in geographic size.
All alderman should know, and the public too, that the mantra from the police brass that "buildings" don't police is a smoke and mirror job. The further a beat car is from its police station, the more downtime that car must have. Larger geographic districts increase response time. Imagine someone shot in Uptown. The beat car is down on an arrest and the nearest other beat car to respond is at Western and Irving. This WILL happen.
And please don't believe that ALL the police in 19 will be assigned to 23. If that happened, 23 would have the largest manpower contingent in the city - 400 some cops. That's more than in Englewood and Harrison, districts that lead the city in murders and violent crime. That will not happen. Trust me, if the consolidations go through, you will see a lot less cops on the streets.
Finally, our neighborhoods (Uptown, Buena Park, etc) built a brand new police station with a state of the art lock-up (jail) that has been CLOSED by the department. All prisoners from 23 go to Belmont & Western for processing. How senseless. And it is an increase in downtime for the officers who have to transport prisoners across a larger geographic area.
This will also occur on the near west side when 13 closes and the near south side when 21 closes. Closing a police station is a big mistake and all citizens should be complaining about it. And so should the aldermen. But they are not.
- A cop who Lives in Uptown too."
Prices for homes around the local Dunkin Donuts and Starbucks just started climbing.
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posted by SCC at 12:06 AM
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Anonymous said...
Someones going to Engl-wood doo daa, doo daa.
11/09/2011 01:55:00 AM
From an Uptown civilian... we're fucked. How would a cop suggest getting conceal/carry legislation passed?
Makes sense to me. If you combine two districts about half your officers are going to have to drive farther to and from their beats resulting in more down time.
Not to mention the $5/gal or more gas we'll be seeing.
Now combine that with the new speed cams that may cause grid lock on the streets and the transport time will become even more of an issue.Beware the unintended consequences.
The brass has it's eyes fixated on all that revenue created by the speed trap ticket machines -- are they ready for the impact it will have on commerce?
the far west end of the 8th district has been dealing with this same thing for years.
Off Topic
It looks like the department has taken steps to make sure no one can pull up arrest reports of high profile individuals such as the case were 2 on-duty P.O.s from 023 were arrested.
Check out the new order revision:
Special Order S06-01-11
8. Confidential Arrest Classification
a.The designation of an arrest as confidential limits access to sensitive information within the CLEAR system to members of the rank of lieutenant and above. A confidential arrest status obstructs (shades out) the arrest record's sensitive information.
b. Members of the rank of lieutenant or above have the authority and ability to classify, view, access, or remove the Confidential Arrest status.
c. The classification of arrests as confidential include, but are not limited to, arrest incidents involving Bureau of Internal Affairs' cases, police shootings, government employees, persons whose status is sometimes categorized as a "celebrity", or other such arrests which may generate extraordinary levels of interest, whether internally or outside of the Department. The principal rationale for classifying an arrest as confidential is to prevent the unauthorized dissemination of criminal justice information.
d. Members will refer to the online Manual entitled "City of Chicago OEMC/PSIT Confidential Arrests" for detailed instructions for procedures concerning Confidential Arrest Reports.
O.t. went to the training for the g8 and all I could say is that this city is going to be screwed. They said we won't use gas and pretty much they can throw stuff at us and we can't go after them. WTF WTF WTF WTf.
'Uptown Sgt.' clearly hasn't examined the 'problems' of redistricting as closely as he's stated here. Both 013 and 021 have closed lockups already, so what's the big deal here? The cops in 021 will now be assigned to districts that have OPEN, WORKING LOCKUPS, like 002 and 001.
Get a grip folks, because it's all going to happen real soon. For those of you who won't be fortunate enough
to remain assigned to one of the Disneyland Districts,
all I can say is, 'welcome to hell.'
Never worked in 019 or 023, so wont comment on them. Did work in 002 over 10 yrs ago and it should be combined with 021. 002 is only a mile wide and should have been consolidated with 021 back when the last of the shit-hole cha buildings were knocked down.
Does anyone see the common denominator here? The districts being closed are of the quieter, tax paying based variety. Do you think for a second Rahm and McNutty would attempt closing a non tax paying, ghetto, revrun based district? Hell no.
He's pandering to them and wouldn't dare want to upset or irritate them. It's much easier to bend over the legitimate
tax paying citizens. This is pure, unadulterated fuckery.
O.T. Hey S.C.C. someone needs to bring this to light. People wonder why coppers are reluctant to any pro-policing anymore. Well when you have cowardly, balless supervisors, it's really not too hard to understand why. In the category of unfucking believable, this past sunday, a 007th district tact team executed a search warrant. The search warrant was written for the 2nd fl. Due to shitbird John Doe's description of the building, the tact team hit the 1st floor apt. instead of the 2nd fl. The way the apartments are laid out, you have to go up several steps to hit the 1st fl. apt. which can easily be misconstrued as the 2nd fl, since evidently there is also a garden apt which could appear to be the 1st fl.
Anyways, they hit the wrong apt. and bust down the door startling an older woman and two younger shitbirds in the apt. There is however a couple dime bags of weed in plainview on a table and one of the younger shitbirds admits that it's his weed. Well the old lady starts beefing big time about her door and how the police unlawfully entered her apt. Soon after, the team realizes that they hit the wrong apt. and should actually be going to the apt. above them.
Simple to fix right? Cover your ass and lock up the shitbird who admitted that the weed was his. Then you tell the beefer to Go Fuck herself about the door. After that you go upstairs and execute the search warrant on the correct apt. Right?
Fuck no!!! The fucking cowardly 007th Dist. Tact Lt. C. and their equally cowardly Sgt. T.W. (who was a wonder kid, bosses son, that goes right to tact in 008 after his probation, and shortly thereafter goes to Fugitive Apprehension for 4 yrs., then makes Sgt. with about a grand total of approx. 5 1/2 years on the job and gets a tact team in 007 right away. This guy doesn't know his ass-from-a-hole-in-the-ground about being the police or supervising, and has no business being a tact sgt. but that's another story) panics when the old lady starts screaming, apologizing and kisses her ass. They then order the PO's to not arrest the shitbird and leave the apt. making no arrests and even leaving behind the illegal contraband in the apt. Unfucking real right? Well it gets worse.
The 007th Tact Lt.C, goes upstairs to the correct apt. knocks on the door and tells the occupants that they are looking for the target because of drugs. No search is conducted, they leave and head back to the station and the mush Lt. actually fucking takes out a C.R.# on the poor po who was the affiant on the search warrant for making an honest mistake and hitting the wrong apt. Are you fucking kidding?!?!?! This is your reward for trying to be a hardworker?
Way to back up and lookout for your guys LT. C. and Sgt. T.W. Besides not covering their asses, you could have potentially jammed up the poor PO's even further. You can see it now IPRA- "Umm... Officer, why did you not make an arrest or at least inventory the illegal drugs after you hit the wrong apt. on the search warrant?"
How the fuck do you cover yourself now? How unbelievably pathetic and dangerous are these supervisors? Way to protect your PO's!!!! Why would anyone want to do any fucking work for these incompetent,and balless, POS? (Btw, side note: Sgt. T.W. once made a PO on his team burn a slip for raising money for fallen coppers and running in the Run 2 Remember, what a douche!)
These 2 jagoffs have got to go before they hurt even more coppers!!!!
Maybe the brass should read on how America won wars in the past.
We did not do it by having less troops to cover more area.
it is a war on the streets. I guess the brass does not to win....
Great post, however one small bone to pick ... When you say "And let's not even talk about the tactical teams who will now be working an area 3 times in geographic size."
Ya, but there will be more tact teams, no?
CPD = Clear and present danger for your mental and physical health. Let me explain it to you guys yet again... Less cops means less arrests,less OT,less reports, less Cr numbers and less law suits to fight, less pensions to pay out, less health care, less promotions etc...A by-product of that rahm/daley strategy is that you the cop will have more STRESS. The CPD is in institutional shock! This job is no more. If you try to ignore that fact, it will eat you up like the most malignant cancer.Example: They will make it HARD for you to make arrests, they have already made it hard for you to WANT to make arrests. Do the absolute bare minimum cause that is what will save you.If you don't see or do shit it is a Win Win for the city,,,they need to be able to sell that LIE (to the revs) that J-Fled the coward started. "CRIME IS DOWN..." HOW DO YOU ASK????
Less = less = less. on paper anyway. Nobody reports crime anymore cause it is futile., cops don't pro-act anymore because it is futile and on top of it ,you get stripped. Bosses have always been wishy washy milktoast,that has been amplified to the hundreth power, ,that is the nature of the clouted beast. Save youself all of this aggravation. LEARN HOW TO ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING. Get the fuck out of here. Then you will make money and live a happy life. I did and I have never been better and I lament the day I ever signed up for this shit. I finally retired but could have done much better if I had only heeded my advise sooner. Think about it before it is too late. Some of you know who I am...?
You have to organize locally and demand participation in the drawing of new beat boundaries, demand the retention of tactical teams and demand the retention of community policing personnel. You're right about the ignorance of local Aldermen about the consequences of these district consolidations. Most of them weren't around the last time beat realignments were done, and I know for a fact that they have not been informed about the certain loss of tactical team coverage. Travel times of officers assigned to outlying beats will rise to the point that they'll become ineffectual. Consider officers having to travel from the new 12th District station, South of Roosevelt, to what is now Beat 1311, in South Humboldt Park. Yet, this new burden , as great as it'll be, will not compare to the loss of tactical teams, and that is something about which local residents and politicians are completely uninformed.
Racoon Eyes and all the "connected" will still get great police and fire protection. So why should they care about....you?
He is kidding himself if he thinks there there will be 15 beats...........try the standard 9beats
I read the entire article, hopefully it will do some good. The Sgt's arguments and observations seem right on the money.
The cit
I don't see the new district (have they assigned a unit number?) having 400 coppers, more than any south and west side hellholes districts.
Rham, if this goes through, will find the animal (they aren't dumb) will just head in droves to the area of the north end of 023. This will bite him in the ass when a big event happens and someone prominent gets killed and the closest available unit is 3 miles away.
When the G8, NATO and the Russians come it will be an MFing mess.
Gery Chico was right, the people were duped by Rham. Taxes and fees are huge, services cut. Police and Fire cut.
There was a street robbery right by Rhammie's house, think his neighbors gave him a pass?
BTW--Les S, you still proud of your prick nephew? Did you get smart and move out of the City?
Wait until you see what they do with the D-unit. Even now, if I have to travel from the unit to interview victims or check addresses, it is a 2-3 hour excursion. I will be able to do maybe 2 interviews a day if I am travelling all over bumfuck Egypt. I think I may have just made my last arrest. Fuck 'em. And you younger det's, have a plan for travelling from your home near O'Hare to Area 1 or 2.
This is going to be the biggest clusterfuck ever.
RUMOR HAS IT... 007 is gonna go to area 2?stupid move due to the number of crimes for dets to respond too,prisoners to transport!way too much time!
I live near dunkin donuts and golden nugget on lawrence ave ,
I have no problem with the police officers taking breakfast , lunch , dinner and coffee breaks.
Move the south boundary of 020 from Lawrence Avenue to Irving Park Road.
Just do it allfuckingready!!!
Anything yet on cutting the number of wards down yet? How about putting it on the next election ballot? Let those who live here decide.
i wonder if anymore area three districts will merge?
At least the residents in 13 and 19 are trying!
Rahm and Obama sent the people living in 021 a tall glass of kool aid and, they are buying it.
Can i get an event number for a GFY mission?!?!?!
021 just a wast of space anyhow. University police do most of the hands on anyhow. 002 and 021 can easily be consolidated together.
I think i drove that Crown Vic as a pool car yesterday...
Here's what irks Americans:
The firing of a football coach.....
Penn State riot video: Crowd tips over TV van
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vXHxbCgg3o&feature=player_embedded#!
Really?? A football coach??? How about the destruction of our Republic? Nah.
UptownAction said...
From an Uptown civilian... we're fucked. How would a cop suggest getting conceal/carry legislation passed?
11/10/2011 12:27:00 AM
Do what you have to do to protect yourself. Do not depend on law or police or justice to happen.
OT: Occupy Penn State begins...
Campus chaos follows Paterno firing
Students clash with police after the coaching icon is ousted in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal.
"...students quickly mobilized in massive numbers to voice their loud (though disjointed) displeasure.
Among the chants that rang out on Beaver Avenue late Wednesday night:
'Hell, no, Joe won’t go!'
'One more game!'
'F—k Sandusky!'
Later, things became more aggressive. A TV news van was overturned by protestors near the administration building. Rocks were tossed at police."
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=pf-forde_paterno_firing_prompts_chaos111011
I'm calling BS on this one. Uptown is not a far drive from 23 and if manpower per shift is reduced then it is the allocation of manpower that is to blame. Not the location of the district.
And to drive "farther to the beat" I think the city put lights and siren on each squad car if you need to get somewhere fast. What it could mean.... and dare I go there, is increased work for a slow northside district.
Go listen to the zone in 6 or 7 and then come back and tell me how you "need manpower". I'm not buying this dog and pony show one bit.
TO TACK IN 007!LEAVE TAC AND COME BACK TO THE WATCH!PROBLEM SOLVED!next crisis!i once got denied for run to remember and the cook co memorial run and i work in 007 too!GET USED TO IT!THE BOSSES ARE CLUELESS AND DONT RESPECT OR CARE ABOUT US!CLOUT RULES THE WHITESHIRT!!welcome to reality ....now go get me an anov goofy!!
Well put. This is more factual than not. Response times will be so long, and only then will the aldermens phones begin to ring, you mentioned a person shot in uptown, yes this will happen but now its saturday afternoon and the only car up is at 2400 n clybourn. This will take 30 plus mintues with traffic, the sheep of this city have no idea what they are in for, we are losing the war and battle yet no one seems to care. Be safe men and women in blue, im in white and I will support you and never push for anything that I would not do myself.
"Simple to fix right? Cover your ass and lock up the shitbird who admitted that the weed was his. Then you tell the beefer to Go Fuck herself about the door. After that you go upstairs and execute the search warrant on the correct apt. Right?"
TELL THAT TO THE JUDGE @ YOUR ARRAIGNMENT, F'NG MORONIC STOOP.
O.T. Hey S.C.C. someone needs to bring this to light. People wonder why coppers are reluctant to any pro-policing anymore. Well when you have cowardly, balless supervisors, it's really not too hard to understand why. In the category of unfucking believable, this past sunday, a 007th district tact team executed a search warrant. The search warrant was written for the 2nd fl. .......
ever think about you guys getting together and quitting the tact team?
Chambers has always struck me as a dumb ass.
Just sayin'
From an Uptown civilian... we're fucked. How would a cop suggest getting conceal/carry legislation passed?
Stop voting for the Democrats. If Bill Brady was Gov instead of this idiot Quinn. Conceal carry would have been passed by now.
How the fuck do you cover yourself now? How unbelievably pathetic and dangerous are these supervisors? Way to protect your PO's!!!! Why would anyone want to do any fucking work for these incompetent,and balless, POS? (Btw, side note: Sgt. T.W. once made a PO on his team burn a slip for raising money for fallen coppers and running in the Run 2 Remember, what a douche!)
These 2 jagoffs have got to go before they hurt even more coppers!!!!
....And you guys are working tact b/c ?????/
Wake up
Your all screwed!!!! Ha ha now ill tax your stupid tree's next happy holidays voters!
It is good to be King Rahm, where is my lighter it's almost the first of eight crazy night's
How the fuck do you cover yourself now? How unbelievably pathetic and dangerous are these supervisors? Way to protect your PO's!!!! Why would anyone want to do any fucking work for these incompetent,and balless, POS? (Btw, side note: Sgt. T.W. once made a PO on his team burn a slip for raising money for fallen coppers and running in the Run 2 Remember, what a douche!)
These 2 jagoffs have got to go before they hurt even more coppers!!!!
11/10/2011 03:59:00 AM
don't feel sorry for any of you idiots out there still being the "police". where did this happen again? oh, 007. wish you guys spent all that time and energy protecting the homefront. sorry, don't care what happens. bunch of hair gels fighting for their tact team spot being led by a hair gel sgt. and I know who you are talking about.
this department needs to have a mandatory time on the job before you can test. at least 10 years for sgt, 10 years for fto, etc. i always look around at the old timers faces in roll call and try to figure out what they're thinking when one of our three sgts (made with 5 years) are blabbing their gums about going out there hitting the street being the police. and they are all f'in wussies.
Standard 9 beats? Everywhere I've worked we have had 15 beats.
boo hoo...this has been going in on in the 008th district for 30 years
"CPD = Clear and present danger for your mental and physical health. Let me explain it to you guys yet again... Less cops means less arrests,less OT,less reports, less Cr numbers and less law suits to fight, less pensions to pay out, less health care, less promotions etc... "
This was soooo irritating to read. Except for "OT" and "health care", for which "less" is correct, for all the rest, it's "FEWER", not "less."
359AM hey bozo, let me get this straight, you don't due your homework coorectly by having you hype CI point out the correct apt.so you hit the wrong apt and you want to arrest some mope for a bag of weed? And this is because your supervisors are balless? Mr 2 yr wonder hard charger, why dont you due your homework correctly and stop beleiving every hype that tells you that "Boo" has a thousand kilos.Then you want to arrest mope for a bag of weed. HEY STUPID FUCK!! YOU NO RIGHT TO BE IN THE APT EVERYTHING YOU RECOVERED WILL BE TOSSED IN COURT AND YOU WILL BE SUED.Lets take your scenario and arrest mope for a bag of weed. Attorney, so officer what was your probale cause for arresting my client? Officer, you see we got this information from a great CI that BOO had a thousand kilos in a shoe box, but we hit the wrong apt and we observed in plain view your client with a bag of weed. Judge(laughing) no probable cause,see you in federal court. Yep it's your supervisors fault, hey kid stop embarassing yourself with your stupidiy on the blog and go back on the watch and learn how to be the police.
The 8th district has been dealing with this for years...8 should actually be two districts. The west end gets screwed because it is slower than the east end.
Holy fuck! Why the hell would the tact lieutenant in 007 take out a CR#? And for what? Shit like that happens every once in awhile. Its no big deal, the affiant made an honest and understandable mistake. There is nothing to take out a CR# on. Being a supervisor myself, I'm appalled. Your supposed to support and protect your troops. Not try and jam them up unnecessarily and for no reason. It was a mistake. No wonder supervisors get a bad name. And how do you not make an arrest or at least inventory the drugs? I hope that doesn't come back later and hurt the poor coppers.
Sounds like that tact sgt. In 007 has no business being in charge of a tact team. This is what happens when you make rank with no time on the job or experience. If you don't know what your doing, or how to look out for your guys, then you should be riding the desk or another clouted admin. spot. This way no one gets hurt or jammed up.
I feel sorry for the po's on that tact team in 007. Watch your ass and ask another supervisor whom you can trust and knows what to do, the next time shit hits the fan. I mean this wasn't even that serious an incident. What's gonna happen the next time, God forbid, if it was actually something to worry about?
Hang in there guys. I can't blame you if you don't wanna do shit, especially if your supervisors don't have your back or know what they're doing. I would feel the same way. These supervisors should not be in charge of a tact unit or anyone else for that matter.
These 2 jagoffs have got to go before they hurt even more coppers!!!!
11/10/2011 03:59:00 AM
So you're mad that they didn't make an arrest based on an illegal search, you're mad that the bosses did a preemptive CR, and you're mad that an officer had to "burn" a slip to take a day off?
They may be ball-less, but you are obviously brain-less
Anonymous said...
O.t. went to the training for the g8 and all I could say is that this city is going to be screwed. They said we won't use gas and pretty much they can throw stuff at us and we can't go after them. WTF WTF WTF WTf.
11/10/2011 02:05:00 AM
That's easy, make out the IOD!!
The city is trying/going to screw you so screw them back.
O.T. Hey S.C.C. someone needs to bring this to light. People wonder why coppers are reluctant to any pro-policing anymore. Well when you have cowardly, balless supervisors, it's really not too hard to understand why. In the category of unfucking believable, this past sunday, a 007th district tact team executed a search warrant. The search warrant was written for the 2nd fl. Due to shitbird John Doe's description of the building, the tact team hit the 1st floor apt. instead of the 2nd fl. The way the apartments are laid out, you have to go up several steps to hit the 1st fl. apt. which can easily be misconstrued as the 2nd fl, since evidently there is also a garden apt which could appear to be the 1st fl.
Anyways, they hit the wrong apt. and bust down the door startling an older woman and two younger shitbirds in the apt. There is however a couple dime bags of weed in plainview on a table and one of the younger shitbirds admits that it's his weed. Well the old lady starts beefing big time about her door and how the police unlawfully entered her apt. Soon after, the team realizes that they hit the wrong apt. and should actually be going to the apt. above them.
Simple to fix right? Cover your ass and lock up the shitbird who admitted that the weed was his. Then you tell the beefer to Go Fuck herself about the door. After that you go upstairs and execute the search warrant on the correct apt. Right?
Fuck no!!! The fucking cowardly 007th Dist. Tact Lt. C. and their equally cowardly Sgt. T.W. (who was a wonder kid, bosses son, that goes right to tact in 008 after his probation, and shortly thereafter goes to Fugitive Apprehension for 4 yrs., then makes Sgt. with about a grand total of approx. 5 1/2 years on the job and gets a tact team in 007 right away. This guy doesn't know his ass-from-a-hole-in-the-ground about being the police or supervising, and has no business being a tact sgt. but that's another story) panics when the old lady starts screaming, apologizing and kisses her ass. They then order the PO's to not arrest the shitbird and leave the apt. making no arrests and even leaving behind the illegal contraband in the apt. Unfucking real right? Well it gets worse.
The 007th Tact Lt.C, goes upstairs to the correct apt. knocks on the door and tells the occupants that they are looking for the target because of drugs. No search is conducted, they leave and head back to the station and the mush Lt. actually fucking takes out a C.R.# on the poor po who was the affiant on the search warrant for making an honest mistake and hitting the wrong apt. Are you fucking kidding?!?!?! This is your reward for trying to be a hardworker?
Way to back up and lookout for your guys LT. C. and Sgt. T.W. Besides not covering their asses, you could have potentially jammed up the poor PO's even further. You can see it now IPRA- "Umm... Officer, why did you not make an arrest or at least inventory the illegal drugs after you hit the wrong apt. on the search warrant?"
How the fuck do you cover yourself now? How unbelievably pathetic and dangerous are these supervisors? Way to protect your PO's!!!! Why would anyone want to do any fucking work for these incompetent,and balless, POS? (Btw, side note: Sgt. T.W. once made a PO on his team burn a slip for raising money for fallen coppers and running in the Run 2 Remember, what a douche!)
These 2 jagoffs have got to go before they hurt even more coppers!!!!
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1. When in doubt, don't serve the warrant.
2. When you make an honest mistake you are covered under color of law. in this case, you hit the right door- you hit the one the affiant named and a judge sigbed off on! so plain view is all good. He'll, you had every right to search that place.
3. Don't work, much less work tact.
Was a tact guy myself till I wised up. Not having tobworry about ANY of this is well worth not being able to wear blue jeans lol.
WGAF? Just Roll with it. They keep paying you,so it's all good.
Regarding the 007th district tact. cluster fuck.
How many tact. officers asked to go back to the watch after this debacle?
If none then there is nothing to cry about.
Same goes for anyone that knew theseboss' were like this and stayed anyway.
Anonymous said...
O.T. Hey S.C.C. someone needs to bring this to light. People wonder why coppers are reluctant to any pro-policing anymore. Well when you have cowardly, balless supervisors, it's really not too hard to understand why. In the category of unfucking believable, this past sunday, a 007th district tact team executed a search warrant. The search warrant was written for the 2nd fl. Due to shitbird John Doe's description of the building, the tact team hit the 1st floor apt. instead of the 2nd fl. The way the apartments are laid out, you have to go up several steps to hit the 1st fl. apt. which can easily be misconstrued as the 2nd fl, since evidently there is also a garden apt which could appear to be the 1st fl.
Anyways, they hit the wrong apt. and bust down the door startling an older woman and two younger shitbirds in the apt. There is however a couple dime bags of weed in plainview on a table and one of the younger shitbirds admits that it's his weed. Well the old lady starts beefing big time about her door and how the police unlawfully entered her apt. Soon after, the team realizes that they hit the wrong apt. and should actually be going to the apt. above them.
Simple to fix right? Cover your ass and lock up the shitbird who admitted that the weed was his. Then you tell the beefer to Go Fuck herself about the door. After that you go upstairs and execute the search warrant on the correct apt. Right?
Fuck no!!! The fucking cowardly 007th Dist. Tact Lt. C. and their equally cowardly Sgt. T.W. (who was a wonder kid, bosses son, that goes right to tact in 008 after his probation, and shortly thereafter goes to Fugitive Apprehension for 4 yrs., then makes Sgt. with about a grand total of approx. 5 1/2 years on the job and gets a tact team in 007 right away. This guy doesn't know his ass-from-a-hole-in-the-ground about being the police or supervising, and has no business being a tact sgt. but that's another story) panics when the old lady starts screaming, apologizing and kisses her ass. They then order the PO's to not arrest the shitbird and leave the apt. making no arrests and even leaving behind the illegal contraband in the apt. Unfucking real right? Well it gets worse.
The 007th Tact Lt.C, goes upstairs to the correct apt. knocks on the door and tells the occupants that they are looking for the target because of drugs. No search is conducted, they leave and head back to the station and the mush Lt. actually fucking takes out a C.R.# on the poor po who was the affiant on the search warrant for making an honest mistake and hitting the wrong apt. Are you fucking kidding?!?!?! This is your reward for trying to be a hardworker?
Way to back up and lookout for your guys LT. C. and Sgt. T.W. Besides not covering their asses, you could have potentially jammed up the poor PO's even further. You can see it now IPRA- "Umm... Officer, why did you not make an arrest or at least inventory the illegal drugs after you hit the wrong apt. on the search warrant?"
How the fuck do you cover yourself now? How unbelievably pathetic and dangerous are these supervisors? Way to protect your PO's!!!! Why would anyone want to do any fucking work for these incompetent,and balless, POS? (Btw, side note: Sgt. T.W. once made a PO on his team burn a slip for raising money for fallen coppers and running in the Run 2 Remember, what a douche!)
These 2 jagoffs have got to go before they hurt even more coppers!!!!
11/10/2011 03:59:00 AM
WHAT DO YOU THINK a judge would think about a Search Warrant written by the Police, who can't even count floors in a building, Hair-Gel Goof ? Stick to writing parking tickets for Rahmmie the Commie, and quit blaming others for your combined incompetence.
There will be a limit on how many po's the new 023 can carry. Redrawn boundaries would make those outer border districts wider and guess who gets the excess manpower from 019/013....the neighboring district. Not much to look forward to if you're low on seniority.
The Dept could care less how long it will take you to get across town from station to your assignment. And if you need a wagon transport, wait in line-only one wagon per district & the crosstown lockup is backlogged. D/C's & W/C's will be bitching up a storm like they did when 012 closed their lockup, feud between 001 & 012, and eventually 011 because of the influx of arrests. Never was there a 'happy' lockup keeper.
Stupidity on the part of this Dept never ceases.
I think they'll wait on this whole process until after the g8 riot.
To search warrant guy, It is a big deal to hit the wrong target. Thank god you did not arrest anyone on the first apt. Even if they had a dead body on the floor it's an unlawfully seized evidence. Do a misc x card and a city funds report for their door. Thank god your Lt & sgt handled this mistake in the correct manner.
Big Changes Coming Tomorrow.This Time I Mean It.
How about downsizing aldermen??? They do nothing and have another full time job.
It seems with the amount of crime going up on CTA trains that Public Transportation has also closed its doors.
Per Supt. McGoof, the new Beat 2311 shalt be bounded by Hermitage, Berteau, Ravenswood, and Cullom. 2311A will be available for lunch relief.
He is kidding himself if he thinks there there will be 15 beats...........try the standard 9beats
11/10/2011 07:31:00 AM
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standard? The first dist that came to my mind, 014, has 12 beats. The second dist to come to my mind is 025th .... not sure, but I think they have even more than that. 016 has 12 beats ... I don't think 9 is the standard.
Heard this one today for those in 023/019. Plan is is to consolidate both districts. Plan b is to Eliminate positions. For example, since 023/019 are one dist. Their is only one desk, so 3 Sgt.s are not required. One caps office, 1 Sgt. Not needed. Eliminate 3 tact teams, 3 sgts. Not needed. So far the new 023/019 is 7 sgts. Over staffed. This can be applied to PO,s as well. their are 23 sgts assigned to 023 and 26 to 019. At total 49 sgts. Now 7 sgts spots no longer needed the new 023/019 needs only 42 sgts. (I'm sure these numbers are going to increase). I cannot think of a single district with 42 sgts. Assigned. No, I think all the bid sgts. From 019/023 will stay a total of 30 sgts and the rest are management , they will be gone. Then the following yr. All sgts. Will bid and those who don't have the time will then be the management sgts in the district. Same goes for PO,s.
Anonymous said...
He is kidding himself if he thinks there there will be 15 beats...........try the standard 9beats
11/10/2011 07:31:00 AM
Read carefully:
15 Beats in a COMBINED district made up of TWO INDIVIDUAL districts. 18 beats in two individual districts becomes 15 beats in the new combined district. That is what is in store for the new 019/023. Three beats eliminated off the top. That is at least 18 police officers and three sergeants gone also.
The new beat maps showing the redrawn beats are already in the hands of the Command Staff. They have been seen by certain industrious patriotic police officers who will remain unnamed.
I would imagine that the same will happen in 012/013 and 021 and whatever district that 021 merges with.
Anonymous said...
Makes sense to me. If you combine two districts about half your officers are going to have to drive farther to and from their beats resulting in more down time.
Not to mention the $5/gal or more gas we'll be seeing.
Now combine that with the new speed cams that may cause grid lock on the streets and the transport time will become even more of an issue.Beware the unintended consequences.
The brass has it's eyes fixated on all that revenue created by the speed trap ticket machines -- are they ready for the impact it will have on commerce?
11/10/2011 12:45:00 AM
Speeding cameras? It then becomes economically advantageous to drive without license plates and simply report them stolen if stopped. The judges let you go on those tickets anyway. That way, Rahm can send his $200 speeding ticket to who knows where, with no plate he can pound his speeding cameras up his ass. There is always a way to fuck the City. These idiots just don't realize that.
No SWAT For You!!
-KB Tactical Barbie on Leave of Absence from 023 Dist. Did she go work for Ray Ray Hamilton and Masters Masters Masters at CROOK County? Or with JFLED?
Any one know the APB Do tell???????
The new 023 should have never been built. It should have been a new area 3 and 023 should have been closed. But since that didn't happen 024 should have been closed and consolidated with 020. Now if a crime happens up north you will have to go to 51th and wentworth or harrison and kedzie? Yikes...
O.T.
Does anybody know if this Sharon Bialek is any relation to Lt. Bialek from 009?
Never worked in 019 or 023, so wont comment on them. Did work in 002 over 10 yrs ago and it should be combined with 021. 002 is only a mile wide and should have been consolidated with 021 back when the last of the shit-hole cha buildings were knocked down.
11/10/2011 02:36:00 AM
Your tape mesure is broken.
State to King = 1 mile
King to Cottage = 1 mile
You guys in 07 need to all leave that team, NOW ! If you stay and work for assholes like that YOUR the fool! The watch is not that bad, I was on tac for 12 yrs when it was good, saw the writing on the wall and my whole team left in one month,they were out a team for about two months until they filled it. Exercise your right and leave immediately.
Off-Topic.......But, maybe not too far off?
The Jefferson County, Alabama Bankruptcy case just hitting the MSM is the result of a Chicago/cook-county-like environment that initially borrowed/financed the complete rebuilding of the sewer system. Because of corruption, it had to be re-financed several times, and each time the clouted, corrupt ones profited immensely from the said refinance!
Could we potentially suffer the same fate with a Rham initiated rebuild of our sewer system ?????
Maybe the real agenda is to spend us into bankrupcy? Sort of like burn up the credit card before you throw in the towel.
It's bigger than the Orange County California debacle.
Google, Jefferson County, Alabama. It's an interesting read. I recall wiki might have a non-msm story about it.
This closure and the eventual re-assignment of some of these office will help solve the summer manpower "crisis" in Area 2. The problem was solved this summer with the 90-day detail where officer could not move around, but, when the detail had to end. Then bid spots were opened up mostly citywide. Most officer were trapped in Area 2, but with retirements, medical, military leave, and IOD the city needs more and more bodies to do more and more with less. But, at some point the city will just "boil" over.
Citzens in these areas should start taken proactive measures to protect property and lives now by staying home on weekends, working from home, and not staying out too late to reduce the chances of being the victim of a theft or a robbery. As the police won't be around in these nice areas to watch your "stuff" for you.
When the G8 and NATO comes around the taxpayer will become the real 99-percent, with no police protection as everyone will be dealing with the REBELS downtown and protecting the confrence attendes including POTUS.
Rahm has no clue as to the power of Ald. Tunney and the entire volumn of alternate life sytle people who live in these 2 districts, 19 & 23. They can wield some weight, they can decide an election by their votes, Rahm and Gerry better tred lightly. these folks scared the crap out of Richie, and everyone is correct, spend all this money for a state of the art station and then close the new lock up. Nice thinking PUTTS.
Another interesting point. on th e15th of this month there will be a community meeting about the merger of 19 and 23 to be held at Lake View High School. Of course it would be of interest to off duty police officers working in those units to be there. However, it is at the same time as retirement parties for 19 as well as A/3, which might limit police participation. At this stage of the game I can't help but wonder if it was scheduled that way on purpose.
Both 19 & 21 Will be closed the week of the G-8 summit and ALL p/os will be assigned temporarily to the 001st district for a week then split up as the dept sees fit.
O.t. went to the training for the g8 and all I could say is that this city is going to be screwed. They said we won't use gas and pretty much they can throw stuff at us and we can't go after them. WTF WTF WTF WTf.
11/10/2011 02:05:00 AM
Thank you for broadcasting that; now all the activist groups know, too. Could you just cut and paste any handouts, while you're at it? Thanks.
021 just a wast of space anyhow. University police do most of the hands on anyhow. 002 and 021 can easily be consolidated together.
11/10/2011 10:08:00 AM
When are they going to start doing their own paperwork and handling their own arrests. It's pretty easy to be "hands on" when you don't have to do shit.
Simple to fix right? Cover your ass and lock up the shitbird who admitted that the weed was his. Then you tell the beefer to Go Fuck herself about the door. After that you go upstairs and execute the search warrant on the correct apt. Right?
Wrong, you made an unlawful entry into an apt, yes it was an honest mistake, but a mistake none the less; you do the sheet, get them a new door, and admit the mistake.
Yes you can then serve the warrant on the second floor, where the warrant is written for, but why bother? he heard you down stairs and flushed or got rid of everything anyway. The error falls on the C.I. who failed to give correct info to the affiant. Why tell thew people in the wrong apt to "go fuck themselves?" if your door got hit accidentally you would raise holy hell, and rightfully so. So they had a little weed, who doesn't in the hood?
Stop doing warrants and you won't have this problem.. Yes you will get sued, and the city will cover it based on the error in the warrant, suck it up and move on. Oh, and did I mention to quit doing warrants??
Anonymous said...
I'm calling BS on this one. Uptown is not a far drive from 23 and if manpower per shift is reduced then it is the allocation of manpower that is to blame. Not the location of the district.
And to drive "farther to the beat" I think the city put lights and siren on each squad car if you need to get somewhere fast. What it could mean.... and dare I go there, is increased work for a slow northside district.
Go listen to the zone in 6 or 7 and then come back and tell me how you "need manpower". I'm not buying this dog and pony show one bit.
11/10/2011 11:11:00 AM
I've lived and worked in 019 for many years. No, we don't have the volume of calls as out south. We still have bullets in our pistols and still get shot at. I saw Rick Francis every day until he was killed a few years back right in front of the station. Early in my career Richard Clark was killed at the beginning of an HBT incident. John Lyons was killed in the line in a police car accident.
No, it isn't 6 or 7. If it was I'd be somewhere else. If I couldn't carpet bomb the damn area I wouldn't want to work and for and deal daily with what is essentially the enemy, an armed insurgency that only vaguely resembles human beings.
If you like your 6th and 7th district I urge you to stay there and enjoy. I'll be retired next year this time no matter what.
Anonymous said...
OT: Occupy Penn State begins...
Campus chaos follows Paterno firing
Students clash with police after the coaching icon is ousted in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal.
"...students quickly mobilized in massive numbers to voice their loud (though disjointed) displeasure.
Among the chants that rang out on Beaver Avenue late Wednesday night:
'Hell, no, Joe won’t go!'
'One more game!'
'F—k Sandusky!'
Later, things became more aggressive. A TV news van was overturned by protestors near the administration building. Rocks were tossed at police."
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=pf-forde_paterno_firing_prompts_chaos111011
11/10/2011 10:47:00 AM
The idiots protest the firing of a football coach but not the continued rape of children partly caused by the inaction of that very football coach. And for that their parents are paying big money.
On that basis alone I would pull my kids out of Penn State and send them to a school where child rape is still considered a heinous crime. One without a football program but with honor, integrity and a strong and well defined moral compass.
The Grand Experiment indeed.
Anonymous said...
Standard 9 beats? Everywhere I've worked we have had 15 beats.
11/10/2011 12:42:00 PM
No you haven't. 9 PRIMARY BEATS, standard all over, not including rapids, PRIMARY BEATS. 018 is authorized more and has for years,.
Let this be a time to start a campaign to impeach Rahm Emanuel from power. He is trying to hurt, not help, EVERY law abiding citizen. Let us also reduce our aldermen from 50 to 25, get rid of their 1.5 million dollar stipend and take home car, put these remaining aldermen in new offices in the CAPS office, they can share half the office with CAPS. Let's get started people the power is within US!
As long as the mayor has police bodyguards, the citizens don't need any protection. Time to keep a gun handy in your house, and if you can move to any other state.
From an Uptown civilian... we're fucked. How would a cop suggest getting conceal/carry legislation passed?
11/10/2011 12:27:00 AM
Uhhhh.....vote Republican.
No you haven't. 9 PRIMARY BEATS, standard all over, not including rapids, PRIMARY BEATS. 018 is authorized more and has for years,.
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Are you some house mouse? 011 has 15 beats. 15 PRIMARY BEATS. 1111-1115; 1121-1125; 1131-1135.
010 has 12 beats. 1011-1114 and so on. Twelve is the standard with slight variations based on geography and population.
Only 9 Beats - you're a moron...or maybe just a Beat Off.
"...BTW--Les S, you still proud of your prick nephew? Did you get smart and move out of the City?"
11/10/2011 07:39:00 AM
Pretty sure the good Sgt is now residing in Texas, unless he came back up after 9.5 won. Maybe he can come back for a day as a substitute teacher so Rahm can get him a second pension?
re search warrants:
ya better know what floor the apartment is on before you swear as an affiant in front of a judge..your information is only as good as your informant, beware of the drug informant....
both supervisors should have made sure the apartment number was correct, they have to ok it, too.
To search warrant guy, It is a big deal to hit the wrong target. Thank god you did not arrest anyone on the first apt. Even if they had a dead body on the floor it's an unlawfully seized evidence. Do a misc x card and a city funds report for their door. Thank god your Lt & sgt handled this mistake in the correct manner.
11/10/2011 01:56:00 PM
My God, you are stupid.
OT: I hate this city and all these money hungry politicians. Speed Cameras are a scam.
UptownAction said...
From an Uptown civilian... we're fucked. How would a cop suggest getting conceal/carry legislation passed?
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Here are the facts: The Police have no duty to "protect." Go look it up. The (most-recent) reference: Castle Rock.
This case was about a woman with a protective order against her estranged husband. The estranged husband ultimately murdered all three kids, then died in a shootout with police.
The United States Supreme Court ruled that there is no duty of protection toward any particular citizen by the police.
"Get out your tape measure" is obviously not a cop or a Chicagoan for that matter. State to Cottage is 1 mile. State St. is zero hundred E & W. and Cottage is 800 E. Every eight long city blocks is one mile. Every two streets typically equal a long city block. 6400 w = eight miles from State St. 3200 N = four miles from Madison St. Get it? Trust my math. Worked the deuce for ten years in the 80's & early 90's when it was fun. Retired and happy and yes I have a life after being the police but it's still full to pull up this site now and then. Stay safe guys.
Update: Arrested P.O.s in 023 said...
Off Topic
It looks like the department has taken steps to make sure no one can pull up arrest reports of high profile individuals such as the case were 2 on-duty P.O.s from 023 were arrested.
Check out the new order revision:
Special Order S06-01-11
8. Confidential Arrest Classification
a.The designation of an arrest as confidential limits access to sensitive information within the CLEAR system to members of the rank of lieutenant and above.
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That's how the indoctrination process of cults work. Look at Penn State...40 counts of child molestation and all the leaders of that operation are concerned about by my interpretation of the recent press storied is the money and the universities image. I have not heard one word of concern about the welfare of the victims.
This is what happens when a society looks the other way to see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil of the clouted ones.
You can see it in the kids doing the rioting at Penn State as a result. Rioting to protect the pedophiles because the Penn State clouted ones are special and should not be held accountable.
Suppress the leaks so that the we can place certain elites on a pedestal and worship them as some sort of God.
In this 007th District Incident. Is this the same Tact Lt. who is rumored to be going to either Midway Airport or Mass Transit?
The reason why these elite tact guys won't leave 007tact is that the majority of them only have enough seniority for midnights. This includes the 765 team
don't feel sorry for any of you idiots out there still being the "police". where did this happen again? oh, 007. wish you guys spent all that time and energy protecting the homefront. sorry, don't care what happens. bunch of hair gels fighting for their tact team spot being led by a hair gel sgt. and I know who you are talking about.
this department needs to have a mandatory time on the job before you can test. at least 10 years for sgt, 10 years for fto, etc. i always look around at the old timers faces in roll call and try to figure out what they're thinking when one of our three sgts (made with 5 years) are blabbing their gums about going out there hitting the street being the police. and they are all f'in wussies.
11/10/2011 12:35:00 PM
So you're mad that they didn't make an arrest based on an illegal search, you're mad that the bosses did a preemptive CR, and you're mad that an officer had to "burn" a slip to take a day off?
They may be ball-less, but you are obviously brain-less
11/10/2011 01:08:00 PM
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A preemptive Cr.# for what? Are you soft as puppy shit? Or is this one of the bosses mentioned? I'm sure you would be grateful if a supervisor took out a preemptive Cr.# on you for some bullshit.
To all the dog asses, stop slamming the coppers who were trying to work. And really hairgel? How original. If you want to be a dogass and just collect a check that's your business, but don't slam the guys that do wanna work. And no i'm not tact in 007. So STFU! I do have over 20yrs on the job, and work for good bosses that know how to protect people who make an honest mistake. And if you paid any attention lately, the guys stuck in 007 can't bid out due to the bullshit that the city is pulling w/ district openings. I guess if they miraculously make it out to 016 or 022 then they shouldn't do shit there either right? Just be a dogass and collect a check, right?
A previous poster was right, if you hit the door on a search warrant and it's the wrong apartment, then you are protected under the color of the law. You can make the arrest if you want, we all know that it will get tossed out due to the amount, but they should have at the very least inventoried the drugs. Technically you are supposed to take some action if you observe illegal narcotics, not turn your back on it. Like I said, at least inventory the stuff at the bare minimum.
I would leave the tact team or not do shit til those bosses are gone.
To the guys in 007, keep the faith. Good for you if you guys want to go out, be the police and work. There is nothing wrong with that, just do it for the right reasons and better bosses. Don't listen to the bitter,crybaby,lazy dogasses on this job who don't do shit. Your work ethic just reminds them of what they are not or never have been.
Signed- So sick and tired of people who slam working coppers.
hey 12;49 pm,, you know it all ass hole,, learn how to spell you moron!!!
Anonymous said...
No you haven't. 9 PRIMARY BEATS, standard all over, not including rapids, PRIMARY BEATS. 018 is authorized more and has for years,.
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Are you some house mouse? 011 has 15 beats. 15 PRIMARY BEATS. 1111-1115; 1121-1125; 1131-1135.
010 has 12 beats. 1011-1114 and so on. Twelve is the standard with slight variations based on geography and population.
Only 9 Beats - you're a moron...or maybe just a Beat Off.
11/10/2011 05:21:00 PM
I meant districts populated by humans.
And to drive "farther to the beat" I think the city put lights and siren on each squad car
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Just remember that comment should "the children" get caught up in some accident that is caused by a 10-1 on the other side. Or when the road is covered with snow or clogged with rush hour traffic and someone sticks a pistol in your face...someone will show up eventually.
When it affects you personally you'll be singing the "but if it saves just one persons life isn't it worth it"
O.T- All this talk about closing districts to free up more police, why havent they even looked at IAD-Confidential Unit. Watch police that live outside the city, for what? They dont fire them, they just keep sitting on the house or wherever they are supposed to be for months and months, no discipline action taken. So the officers continue to shop and do whatever they can get done in the 6-7 hours they are on the clock and then go home to start all over again. WTF! How bout cleaning up that unit and freeing up some officers for the street. They can still do the shopping with a squad car.
To the half-ass cartographer at 3:13 PM:
State Street (0 E + W baseline) is exactly one mile west of Cottage Grove Ave. (800 E) with King Dr. (400 E) midway between the parallel arteries.
Standard 9 beats? Everywhere I've worked we have had 15 beats.
11/10/2011 12:42:00 PM
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So true. Some district do have more beat offs than others but what can you do?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Standard 9 beats? Everywhere I've worked we have had 15 beats.
11/10/2011 12:42:00 PM
No you haven't. 9 PRIMARY BEATS, standard all over, not including rapids, PRIMARY BEATS. 018 is authorized more and has for years,.
11/10/2011 05:03:00 PM
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Guess again! Worked in 009 in the mid 80's thru late 90's. Had 12 beats when I got there and in the early 90's went up to 15 PRIMARY BEATS!!
...welcome to Omni Consumer Products!!!
OT: Occupy Penn State begins...
Campus chaos follows Paterno firing
Students clash with police after the coaching icon is ousted in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal.
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There's a fundamental difference between the Occupy people and this Penn State thing.
Occupy is demanding among other things accountability of our leaders whereas the Penn State thing comes off as the elite class seeking continuation of special privilege as they have become accustomed.
Seriously, college kids protesting in favor of people that basically are promoting pedophilia!? WTF?
What kind of homes are these people growing up in?
We stereotype and ridicule this kind of shit in the ghetto but what is this? Society needs to speak up and stop allowing the evil doers to be elevated to role model status.
People with money were once viewed as hard working intelligent people that brought things to the table that others were either unwilling or unable to do. Oh they must be so smart ya know that money == success. However today money not necessarily a sign of success. It's an indication of dishonesty and cheating. Corruption. We need to stop confusing the two.
OFF TOPIC:
New operational calanders out furlough/period starts on Sunday now. Another New York Model??? WTF
Most Detectives will be assigned to Districts after the 1st of the year, and it will be up to the District Commanders whether they will wear Uniforms, Civilian dress, or a combination thereof, depending on circumstances..
11/10/2011 04:24:00 PM
Aren't you the pathetic one...
Your tape mesure is broken.
State to King = 1 mile
King to Cottage = 1 mile
11/10/2011 03:13:00 PM
State to Cottage = One (1) mile
Dick Daley to Rahm the Dick = zero miles
Anonymous said...
'Uptown Sgt.' clearly hasn't examined the 'problems' of redistricting as closely as he's stated here. Both 013 and 021 have closed lockups already, so what's the big deal here? The cops in 021 will now be assigned to districts that have OPEN, WORKING LOCKUPS, like 002 and 001.
Get a grip folks, because it's all going to happen real soon. For those of you who won't be fortunate enough
to remain assigned to one of the Disneyland Districts,
all I can say is, 'welcome to hell.'
11/10/2011 02:10:00 AM
Once again a Moron speaks: Most of the cops in "Disneyland-021" worked any number of active districts for most of our tenure on the job before " retiring " to "Disneyland". So going back to a slightly more active district will not be a problem.Although it will be an eye opener for a few!
Anonymous said...
021 just a wast of space anyhow. University police do most of the hands on anyhow. 002 and 021 can easily be consolidated together.
11/10/2011 10:08:00 AM
Whatever.....
Anonymous said...
From an Uptown civilian... we're fucked. How would a cop suggest getting conceal/carry legislation passed?
11/10/2011 12:27:00 AM
Uhhhh.....vote Republican.
11/10/2011 05:17:00 PM
Hmmm, wasn't the previous president a Republican?
Anonymous said...
021 just a wast of space anyhow. University police do most of the hands on anyhow. 002 and 021 can easily be consolidated together.
11/10/2011 10:08:00 AM
When are they going to start doing their own paperwork and handling their own arrests. It's pretty easy to be "hands on" when you don't have to do shit.
11/10/2011 04:18:00 PM
Yeah, the U's idea of probable cause is sometimes flimsy at best.
Boo hoo. 008 has had to deal with man power shortage for years.the stations on 63 St. Lois ( way East) if your 0812 or 0811 (way West) that's almost 5 miles of land to cover before help arrives. So join our misery and prepare for the fuckening.
Disgruntled city employee
From an Uptown civilian... we're fucked. How would a cop suggest getting conceal/carry legislation passed?
11/10/2011 12:27:00 AM
Uhhhh.....vote Republican.
11/10/2011 05:17:00 PM
Hmmm, wasn't the previous president a Republican?
11/10/2011 08:50:00 PM
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Yes, and the number of states expanding the Right to carry went to 48 under Bush, Wisconsin being number 49 as of this month. The NRA is wearing down the democrats unconstitutional restrictions on Illinoisans' right to carry, but these things take time.
Ernest Brown finally retired today and is now the city of Darien's problem. Oh yea, one more thing. Fuck You Ernie, you are as dumb as they come, let's see if Jesse Jackson is gonna help you in a Republican County Dumbass!!!
To search warrant guy, It is a big deal to hit the wrong target. Thank god you did not arrest anyone on the first apt. Even if they had a dead body on the floor it's an unlawfully seized evidence. Do a misc x card and a city funds report for their door. Thank god your Lt & sgt handled this mistake in the correct manner.
11/10/2011 01:56:00 PM
My God, you are stupid.
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What academy and police force do you belong to? I hope not CPD, you are a fool. What statue says you can kick down a door for no reason and gather evidence? Don't get me wrong, process the body but the judge will in the end throw it out any evidence gathered from it. Maybe there is case law that differs for dead bodies seized by unlawful means.
So your telling me, that if you wrote a search warrant for my house, but the Area whatever deputy lived next store and you accidently hit his house, what do you think, so you'd search his house, arrest him gather evidence at this wrong house? Is that covering yourself, You have no warrant. Would you think that is stupid or I am? So in the wrong house, and illegally obtaining evidence, would you arrest this Chief ? you answered yes. By the way it is a big deal when you try to fuck it up more by not doing the correct paper, In this case misc-x, city fund, or document it in your vice case report, and the LT does a CR #.
Another interesting point. on th e15th of this month there will be a community meeting about the merger of 19 and 23 to be held at Lake View High School. Of course it would be of interest to off duty police officers working in those units to be there. However, it is at the same time as retirement parties for 19 as well as A/3, which might limit police participation. At this stage of the game I can't help but wonder if it was scheduled that way on purpose.
11/10/2011 03:52:00 PM
You're kidding, right? The parties you're talking about are little BAR parties, not the big district or unit dinner parties. Both 019 and a/3's big parties are in December.
Everything isn't a conspiracy against you, you, you. I'm sure you can attend the community meeting and THEN make it to the bar afterward.
Cool, I'm all for it. Bored of circling the same area for all these years.
007 district has moron supervisors led by a moron merit commander and that tact team is full of hard charging morons! You guys really think this shit is a movie. You guys think this is a damn game! The supervisors the mayor the city the alderman the people treat us like shit but yet you guys lockup up folks footchase, write tickets and hers the kicker you work tact?? Please wake up and collect the check and go home. I don't want to see anybody hurt out here. Back each other Be safe go home and collect the check? 1st and 16th. Signed This is not a movie
Sgt Tw is a nit wit. This douche bag has no business beeing a sgt. He was a horrible policeman and the only reason he is a sgt is because Malloy was his neighbor and TW had all the answers to Sgt test.
"Big Changes Coming Tomorrow.This Time I Mean It."
Take it to the bank!
"Boo hoo. 008 has had to deal with a man power shortage for years."
How does a District have a shortage of Officers but is still able to field a 12 man 06 Car team?
To 12:49, where the fuck did you learn how to spell or form a sentence?
You are the dumbfuck! And you obviously don't do shit but sit on your ass, bitch and moan about the job, inability to pass a promotional test, etc.
Hairgel? So what should we call your dumbass? Hairplug? Leave the cops who are trying to work alone. I got over 17 on and still like to work. Guess I'm also an asshole.
Bosses should lookout for their troops, not try and cover their asses by hanging their guys out to dry. The po's in 007 are out there working, good for them.
And to those who say they shouldn't be doing search warrants, let's not forget that trying to get guns off the street or fucking w/ the dope boys is not a bad thing. A lot of police officers in 007, 011, 006, etc. are shot at or murdered by these scumbags.
Bosses need to stand by and lookout for their guys, not try and hurt them.
P.s. Go back to grammar school and learn how to write hairplug.
Anonymous said...
O.T. Hey S.C.C. someone needs to bring this to light. People wonder why coppers are reluctant to any pro-policing anymore. Well when you have cowardly, balless supervisors, it's really not too hard to understand why. In the category of unfucking believable, this past sunday, a 007th district tact team executed a search warrant. The search warrant was written for the 2nd fl. Due to shitbird John Doe's description of the building, the tact team hit the 1st floor apt. instead of the 2nd fl. The way the apartments are laid out, you have to go up several steps to hit the 1st fl. apt. which can easily be misconstrued as the 2nd fl, since evidently there is also a garden apt which could appear to be the 1st fl.
Anyways, they hit the wrong apt. and bust down the door startling an older woman and two younger shitbirds in the apt. There is however a couple dime bags of weed in plainview on a table and one of the younger shitbirds admits that it's his weed. Well the old lady starts beefing big time about her door and how the police unlawfully entered her apt. Soon after, the team realizes that they hit the wrong apt. and should actually be going to the apt. above them.
Simple to fix right? Cover your ass and lock up the shitbird who admitted that the weed was his. Then you tell the beefer to Go Fuck herself about the door. After that you go upstairs and execute the search warrant on the correct apt. Right?
UUUHHHHH.... NO!
Anyways, they hit the wrong apt. and bust down the door startling an older woman and two younger shitbirds in the apt.
says it all...quit embarrassing us, go away and come back when you at least understand that a search warrant means a "SEARCH WARRANT"...wrong house doesn't cut it now-a-days guy... You got to put your house in trust...fool....
If you play with fire you'll get burned. said...
Regarding the 007th district tact. cluster fuck.
How many tact. officers asked to go back to the watch after this debacle?
If none then there is nothing to cry about.
Same goes for anyone that knew theseboss' were like this and stayed anyway.
11/10/2011 01:36:00 PM
007 has a lot of soft balls!
Anonymous said...
There will be a limit on how many po's the new 023 can carry. Redrawn boundaries would make those outer border districts wider and guess who gets the excess manpower from 019/013....the neighboring district. Not much to look forward to if you're low on seniority.
The Dept could care less how long it will take you to get across town from station to your assignment. And if you need a wagon transport, wait in line-only one wagon per district & the crosstown lockup is backlogged. D/C's & W/C's will be bitching up a storm like they did when 012 closed their lockup, feud between 001 & 012, and eventually 011 because of the influx of arrests. Never was there a 'happy' lockup keeper.
Stupidity on the part of this Dept never ceases.
I think they'll wait on this whole process until after the g8 riot.
11/10/2011 01:49:00 PM
funny...most would agree by saying that those not on the south side should not have to worry about 'anything'...fact is - get ready........YOU WILL, they are like "savoir-faire", THEY are EVERYWHERE!!
Hmmm, wasn't the previous president a Republican?
Yes but the State of Illinois, City of Chicago, and County of Cook are all run by DEMOCRATS! who want to run your life and fleese your bank account. Remember, they know what is best for you; you don't need guns, just try to reason with your attacker, extent a hand of friendship, or just give up your hard earned gains, allow your family to be harmed etc. all in the name of political correctness, peace and harmony...
A previous poster was right, if you hit the door on a search warrant and it's the wrong apartment, then you are protected under the color of the law. You can make the arrest if you want, we all know that it will get tossed out due to the amount, but they should have at the very least inventoried the drugs. Technically you are supposed to take some action if you observe illegal narcotics, not turn your back on it. Like I said, at least inventory the stuff at the bare minimum.
Covered under the law in civil court maybe, where they will certainly end up; the city will have to eat this one and settle, but as far as locking people up after hitting the wrong door? sorry but aside from a case report and in,iventorying the weed, that's it, you have no probable cause to arrest based on hitting the wrong door; this wouldn't get past the watch commanders que let alon a pc hearing. You made a mistake, take the hit, learn from it and move on. Again I ask, did I mention not to do warrants?
P.S. I agree no cr should have been pulled, city fixes the door, dope inventoried, and then wait for the beef and civil suit..
Most Detectives will be assigned to Districts after the 1st of the year, and it will be up to the District Commanders whether they will wear Uniforms, Civilian dress, or a combination thereof, depending on circumstances..
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Combination there of? What do you mean? like when the house cats wear baseball jerseys over their uniforms so they can go shopping and go pick up the kids?
OFF TOPIC:
New operational calanders out furlough/period starts on Sunday now. Another New York Model??? WTF
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Makes it easier to control furlo extensions.
So they had a little weed, who doesn't in the hood?
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Can't wait to retire.
Rahm's budgetary cuts hit police officers and firefighters the hardest. The savings squeezed from public safety is anticipated to be close to 20% (or 84 million) of the total savings for 2012. No other public sector is experiences such dramatic changes for the 2012 budget. Savings from Management Cuts and Vacancies follows at a distant second at around 8% (or 34 million). Rahm has made it clear that public safety is at the bottom of priorities. This could easily be interpreted as payback for the lack of support we gave him during the mayoral campaign. Regardless, my heart goes out for the officers of the 19th district and when you are disbanded we will welcome you into the 23rd district or wherever else you may end.
R.H.
http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/mayor/press_room/press_releases/2011/october_2011/mayor_rahm_emanueloutlines2012budgetproposaltosecurechicagosfutu.html
To the fool who wants IAD cleaned out. Who gives a shit. I don't want some disguntled snitch working along side me.
POS? (Btw, side note: Sgt. T.W. once made a PO on his team burn a slip for raising money for fallen coppers and running in the Run 2 Remember, what a douche!)
These 2 jagoffs have got to go before they hurt
Uh and how else was he suppose to do it. I had to "burn" a slip to run. Oh thats right, your tact so your exempt. If you dislike this guy so much come back to the watch and work with the rest of us. I know it's a strecth but next time try try try to think before you post.
This Sgt. T.W sounds like another bullshit Sgt. S.D. who was also in fugitive unit. He used to say he got in because he made alot of arrest in 018. He was a merit Sgt. who got made by his buddy Phil Cline.
Anonymous said...
To the fool who wants IAD cleaned out. Who gives a shit. I don't want some disguntled snitch working along side me.
11/11/2011 05:41:00 AM
The CPD is full of disgruntled snitches, just ask anyone who works in IAD. You would be surprised!
So you're mad that they didn't make an arrest based on an illegal search, you're mad that the bosses did a preemptive CR...
They may be ball-less, but you are obviously brain-less
11/10/2011 01:08:00 PM
HERE IS A QUICK LESSON IN PROBABLE CAUSE:
FIRST THE DEFINITION WITH A LITTLE CASE LAW TO BACK IT UP:
PROBABLE CAUSE
A reasonable belief that a person has committed a crime. The test the court of appeals employs to determine whether probable cause existed for purposes of arrest is whether facts and circumstances within the officer's knowledge are sufficient to warrant a prudent person to believe a suspect has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime. U.S. v. Puerta, 982 F.2d 1297, 1300 (9th Cir. 1992). In terms of seizure of items, probable cause merely requires that the facts available to the officer warrants a "man of reasonable caution" to conclude that certain items may be contraband or stolen property or useful as evidence of a crime. U.S. v. Dunn, 946 F.2d 615, 619 (9th Cir. 1991), cert. Denied, 112 S. Ct. 401 (1992).
It is undisputed that the Fourth Amendment, applicable to the states through the Fourteenth Amendment, prohibits an officer from making an arrest without probable cause. McKenzie v. Lamb, 738 F.2d 1005, 1007 (9th Cir. 1984). Probable cause exists when "the facts and circumstances within the arresting officer's knowledge are sufficient to warrant a prudent person to believe that a suspect has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime." United States v. Hoyos, 892 F.2d 1387, 1392 (9th Cir. 1989), cert. denied, 489 U.S. 825 (1990) (citing United States v. Greene, 783 F.2d 1364, 1367 (9th Cir. 1986), cert. denied, 476 U.S. 1185 (1986)).
ANALYSIS: (I'll try to keep this short)
The officers accidentally hit the wrong apartment, but they were acting in good faith. (although, one could also argue that even if they hit the wrong apartment on purpose, they still had probable cause to make the arrest).
Once inside they observed suspect cannabis in plain view.
Then an offender steps forward.
That means they had a reasonable belief that a person has committed a crime. (somebody had some illegal pot in the house)
and
circumstances existed within the officer's knowledge that were sufficient to warrant a prudent person to believe a suspect has committed a crime (A CONFESSION!)
Now, could all of this be challenged in court, sure. But would the officers be liable in any way, NO!
Acting in good faith, they happened upon a crime (pot) and immediately identified and offender (confession from dumb-ass).
If they accidentally hit Jeffrey Dahmer's house should they turn around and walk out the door?
Probable cause is probable cause!
Based on the facts given about the entire warrant incident,
The offender should have been taken into custody and the suspect cannabis inventoried.
The warrant should have then been executed on the 2nd floor.
We also have a number to call to get city carpenters to come out and fix the door on the first floor; they come out within 24hrs.
As far as the CR, I don't see any reason to obtain one based on the facts given here.
Then again, I wasn't there on the scene.
Sorry for the long post
it in your vice case report, and the LT does a CR #.
11/10/2011 10:27:00 PM
Still wrond, so still stupid.
"I got over 17 on and still like to work. Guess I'm also an asshole."
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Yes, apparently you are.
"Makes it easier to control furlo extensions."
not that they have bothered to say what sort of extension will be allowed--Will it be to your rdos before and/or after the segment?..of course the current strict limit on extensions in patrol only applies to most members on the watch-- not lts, capts or special officers
To the 07 search warrant discussion. The Lt did not have to obtain a CR# on his own police officer unless the owner/occupant of the apartment that they hit in error demanded one. Then the CR# could have been answered later and justified. The officers hit the wrong apartment in good faith based on the information they had. As long as they did their homework on the place the best they could, they are covered under the law. They should have arrested the individual that had the weed. It was not only in plain view but the subject in the apartment openly admitted ownership.
To the idiot search warrant guy in 007, there's no way you have more than three years on the job. You hit the wrong house and instead of being a man and apologizing to the old lady, you want to tell her to go fuck herself!!! You are either on roid rage or just one serious asshole! To top it off you want to do the right thing and arrest a guy for a bag of weed, now i've heard it all, please stop my stomach hurts from so much laughter. You should be blowing your supervisors for saving your sorry ass, now go get your shine box.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Rahm's budgetary cuts hit police officers and firefighters the hardest. The savings squeezed from public safety is anticipated to be close to 20% (or 84 million) of the total savings for 2012. No other public sector is experiences such dramatic changes for the 2012 budget. Savings from Management Cuts and Vacancies follows at a distant second at around 8% (or 34 million). Rahm has made it clear that public safety is at the bottom of priorities. This could easily be interpreted as payback for the lack of support we gave him during the mayoral campaign. Regardless, my heart goes out for the officers of the 19th district and when you are disbanded we will welcome you into the 23rd district or wherever else you may end.
R.H.
http://www.cityofchicago.org/city/en/depts/mayor/press_room/press_releases/2011/october_2011/mayor_rahm_emanueloutlines2012budgetproposaltosecurechicagosfutu.html
11/11/2011 04:18:00 AM
Did you think he would care?? He has personal armed valets why should he care about the taxpayers??
Fuck it close all the districts! Have a big warehouse for prisoners,now that rahmbo "found" 1 BILLION more to rehab the criminal line code red that allows all of them to come downtown,we can ride the bus to the jobs why not? Hey rahm here is a great crime prevention strategy rebuild the red line,make it the new "circulator," it would run from 79-95th street along the Ryan in a circle look at all the crime prevented! Shazaam!
007 coppers on that warrant are out $15k each. The affiant is out $30k.
Bosses will lose nothing.
Nice work. When Corp Counsel offers you a $5k settlement, jump all over it even if your other team members won't.
Start saving now.
Someone who knows.
Covered under the law in civil court maybe, where they will certainly end up; the city will have to eat this one and settle, but as far as locking people up after hitting the wrong door? sorry but aside from a case report and in,iventorying the weed, that's it, you have no probable cause to arrest based on hitting the wrong door; this wouldn't get past the watch commanders que let alon a pc hearing. You made a mistake, take the hit, learn from it and move on. Again I ask, did I mention not to do warrants?
P.S. I agree no cr should have been pulled, city fixes the door, dope inventoried, and then wait for the beef and civil suit..
11/11/2011 01:11:00 AM
So you're saying that if you hit the wrong door and find .... let's say a bunch of guns on the table, you don't make an arrest? What if you found someone being held hostage, taped up to some chair? You still don't make an arrest?
You see what i'm getting at? Once the mistake was made, ok there's nothing you can do about that part, but once you find a crime being committed in front of you, then it's your job to enforce the law not look the other way.
Just a bit of info for you out there interested in the beat manning factor. When we got our first contract in 1981 the manning factor was 1.5. Hence the 3 men assigned to a car per period. As of now, with increased furlough days, baby furlough days and cu the manning factor is 2. Meaning it really takes 4 people to man that same car. So if the new 023 loses 3 beats to realignment that is a total of 36 POs off the district rolls. Not to mention rapids and inside staff. MORE WITH LESS.
I wonder how all these Uptown liberals that voted for Mayor Yakuza feel now about him now? I don't really give a shit about them. They'll vote for him next election, for sure.
P.S. I agree no cr should have been pulled, city fixes the door, dope inventoried, and then wait for the beef and civil suit..
11/11/2011 01:11:00 AM
So you're saying that if you hit the wrong door and find .... let's say a bunch of guns on the table, you don't make an arrest? What if you found someone being held hostage, taped up to some chair? You still don't make an arrest?
You see what i'm getting at? Once the mistake was made, ok there's nothing you can do about that part, but once you find a crime being committed in front of you, then it's your job to enforce the law not look the other way.
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Absolutely make the arrest and inventories, but....you're violating civil rights, its called liberals in action after you save a life and arrest a maniac, these liberals will set the offender free to sue you.
it in your vice case report, and the LT does a CR #.
11/10/2011 10:27:00 PM
Still wrond, so still stupid.
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You can't spell, or use proper grammar,
Fine, the 007 warrant team should of slapped the old bitch for yapping, took the dope and inventoried it, arrested shit bags, and the LT should of high fived you.
Or just documented it in the case report, and do a misc - x- card and a funds report. No CR, just let IPRA do it later on, instead of YOUR OWN LT.
the best answer to is this:
To the idiot search warrant guy in 007, there's no way you have more than three years on the job. You hit the wrong house and instead of being a man and apologizing to the old lady, you want to tell her to go fuck herself!!! You are either on roid rage or just one serious asshole! To top it off you want to do the right thing and arrest a guy for a bag of weed, now i've heard it all, please stop my stomach hurts from so much laughter. You should be blowing your supervisors for saving your sorry ass, now go get your shine box.
I pray I never work with you, supervise you, handle a case for you. You made a mistake, own up to it, and you'll be fine, its when you go around play cowboy you're screwed.
Anonymous said...
I'm calling BS on this one. Uptown is not a far drive from 23 and if manpower per shift is reduced then it is the allocation of manpower that is to blame. Not the location of the district.
And to drive "farther to the beat" I think the city put lights and siren on each squad car if you need to get somewhere fast. What it could mean.... And dare I go there, is increased work for a slow north-side district.
Go listen to the zone in 6 or 7 and then come back and tell me how you "need manpower". I'm not buying this dog and pony show one bit.
11/10/2011 11:11:00 A
Dear dude,
Have you ever tried to drive from the South end of 023 to the North end? After dodging the perpetual construction and heavy constant traffic, you hit about 3 or 4 diagonal streets with the most screwed up traffic lights.
Now lets talk about the sirens you speak of... try explaining how you wrecked that lovely Tahoe when going lights and sirens for a panic alarm or any call for that matter?
The important matter of all this is officer safety. Responding to a call from a fellow officer could be dangerous for the responding unit as well as those waiting for back up.
Now what's all this talk about slow district vs busy district?.. Really? I've worked south, west and now north, they all have their issues! I have actually worked just as hard in the north-side dist as I did west and south. Less volume for sure, but most of those calls in the ghetto are BS Shithead vs. Shithead, so who really wants to drive like a bat out of hell to go help Pookie and his 5 baby mamma drama shit?
Just because you work in a busy dist. does not mean you are better than any other officer. I still like dog ass police better than 3rd generation link card, he was working on his GED, SSI gettin, baggy pant wearing, the world owes me a living bag of shit!
To the 07 search warrant discussion. The Lt did not have to obtain a CR# on his own police officer unless the owner/occupant of the apartment that they hit in error demanded one. Then the CR# could have been answered later and justified. The officers hit the wrong apartment in good faith based on the information they had. As long as they did their homework on the place the best they could, they are covered under the law. They should have arrested the individual that had the weed. It was not only in plain view but the subject in the apartment openly admitted ownership.
11/11/2011 10:35:00 AM
1. They blew it. They hit the wrong apartment. It happens, but when it happens, you man up and admit it.
2. The lieutenant, or anyone aware of it, is OBLIGATED, by general order, to report 'wrongdoing' within an hour. Better that it's your unit investigating than the witch-hunters.
3. Anything found in the wrong apartment is 'fruit of the poisonous tree'. It would be thrown out in court. It wasn't in plain view, because you TECHNICALLY never could have seen the inside of the apartment, except for the accidental illegal entry. This is to protect the innocent from the 'oopsy' excuse of "oh, we so silly; we hit the wrong apartment, but we found all this ---". (The moral dilemma, of course, is 'do we inventory the guns, bomb, pile of grenades in the interest of public safety and let the court determine the disposition of the guns, bomb, pile of grenades'?)
4. And good luck mouthing off to the lady whose apartment you wrongly hit. Were you raised by wolves? If another cop broke down my mom's door in error, I'd expect him to sincerely apologize, like any normal human being who made a mistake would do. Make nice. It's easier to make and keep a friend that way.
5. A review of search warrant procedures, before you serve your warrant, should also include one sentence on how to inform an owner/tenant to get payment for their damaged door. Being embarassed about hitting the wrong location is no excuse for not simply telling the lady what the procedure is. It wasn't HER fault you hit the wrong place. It's yours.
6.Which takes us back to number one. Be adults and own your goof-up. It's not the first, or the last, time it'll happen. Even we make mistakes, and in the grand scheme of things, this wasn't a big one. No one got killed, abused, scarred for life (except your pride), or harmed in any way beyond maybe taking a day or two.
Just behave with a little dignity and do the right thing, instead of trying to justify having done the wrong thing.
Re the 007 search warrant post. The affiant will not be liable in civil court because his actions were "reasonable" given the circumstances. Also he would be indemnified in a civil suit because his actions were within the scope of his employment, which is how the Illinois statute reads. This is simply a case of john doe giving bad info, and its all on him not the officers. To those of you who say younger officers or those of us who like to work are the stupid ones, I won't even dignity you with a response. Stay safe.
Your tape mesure is broken.
State to King = 1 mile
King to Cottage = 1 mile
11/10/2011 03:13:00 PM
Only if you are using new math. EW blocks are shorter so how exactly do 4 blocks, from State Street to King Drive, become a mile?
Just behave with a little dignity and do the right thing, instead of trying to justify having done the wrong thing.
11/12/2011 12:50:00 AM
I totally agree.
So sick of posters telling other officers to work/protect the home front. I would love the opportunity to leave my district and work in my district of residence. I can't tho. Only have 5yrs on, and I'm stuck in 007. I have no clout. So I'm sure I will be stuck for another 5yrs.
Does that mean that these guys and girls will spend less time in Starbucks?
Tragic!
Only have 5yrs on, and I'm stuck in 007. I have no clout. So I'm sure I will be stuck for another 5yrs.
11/13/2011 12:03:00 AM
hone your skills.
that time will come.
Officers working their asses off in busy districts don't care and can use the help. Disneyland has a lot of down time. Wow tact has a bigger area to search for a weed arrest. Give us a break. Send us the sgts. that were sent there out of the academy.
What will happened to the newly formed area 3 teams. Didn't need more teams in area 3 with a district closing
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