Ive never felt sorry for any boss who feels mistreated administratively by the dept. Wherever they land, there are a plethera of underlings working. doing more work for less, in some cases a lot less, money Oh fucking well
Just wait city has added TWO extra retirement semminars before the June 1st meeting because of the demand to retire by the rank and file Officers! Was told this never happened at any time even under Shortshank's dictatorship!
This was just a way to get these guys to retire. Apparently the administration has THEIR guys they want in those spots. O'Shea won't have a say in who's going to take over 022. Murders for January are up 50 percent for the month. Let Mc Fibber and Mayor Fucktard explain this to the public. Lack of police, no. Elevated temperatures in winter, yes. Any chance of these Commanders being assigned to Deputy Chiefs as XO's in the area like Corruthers. Nope, wrong flavor.
Boo fucking hoo. You are a commander making commander's pay and getting a commander's pension. So they move you, it is part of the job description. And you have a company car. That is what is wrong with this job, too many cry babies who think they are above what Police Officers have to do. Too many have lost touch with what we became the police for. Well then again many came on never having the intention of being the police. Oh just forget the whole thing.
If true the city hall / 35th St purge continues. The dismantling of the CPD to eventually try to hire private security to replace those leaving. Watch for many unplanned retirements coming before G8. These will be veteran CPD who wake up and say I AM DONE! Rahmmy the Commie will be doing jumping jacks and doing push ups in celebration on the 5th. He will celebrate everyday until G8 when the thin blue line is attempting to maintain law and order. During one of his jumping jacks he may see black smoke hovering over Lake Michigan. The dismantling of the CPD is Rahmmy's plan and BigMac is just following it!!!!!! He is a TOOL!
If true the city hall / 35th St purge continues. The dismantling of the CPD to eventually try to hire private security to replace those leaving. Watch for many unplanned retirements coming before G8. These will be veteran CPD who wake up and say I AM DONE! Rahmmy the Commie will be doing jumping jacks and doing push ups in celebration on the 5th. He will celebrate everyday until G8 when the thin blue line is attempting to maintain law and order. During one of his jumping jacks he may see black smoke hovering over Lake Michigan. The dismantling of the CPD is Rahmmy's plan and BigMac is just following it!!!!!! He is a TOOL!
Fresh off the rumor mill, a good source says expect to see a whole bunch of people getting stripped for false reports / rule 14 violations. Allegations of padding numbers and falsifying parkers, curfews, truants...even contact cards. Inspectors found 'irregularities and inconsistencies' in how a beat car in very busy districts could write dozens of each during their tour. They are pulling gps to see if you were where you said you were and the "name check clear via PDT" on contact cards is gonna get people hung out to dry. I was wondering why a certain newly minted inspector has been in the station on all watches for weeks now. Remember kids, it's simple math- 20 contact cards @ (let's use for example) 5-6 minutes each to scribble out and name check = almost 2 hours of your day. Do you see the red flag this s!$t has raised???? ***DO NOT FALL VICTIM TO THE BOSSES NUMBERS GAME!!!! Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
I doubt McNaughton put in his papers. He is only 48 yrs old. I'm sure he isn't happy but he is a company man so he will go wherever they tell him to go and will put on a company face.
If true that's awesome. It sends a message to McNutty and Rahm that everything isn't as rosy as they think. Problem is if they dig deep enough they'll find suckholes to sell their soles and climb aboard.
Who isn't retiring. There is a record number of people taking the 55 and put. Their is no mentioning of renewing it. So this is it. Any buddy think about doing it next year is it. dead line to put in is this fall for 2013.
Kevin Chambers' name has been surfacing a lot lately at HQ to take the next step and command the 008th District. He has paid his dues and his time has finally arrived. Being able to speak fluent Polish should seal the deal with the constituents along Archet Avenue!
OT: Armed ALDI customer saves a Milwaukee ALDI (quite unlike the Edgewater ALDI armed robbery from a few weeks ago): http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-police-armed-customer-ends-robbery-attempt-20120131,0,6901487.story
off topic, might be worth it's own post.....from the SanFran Chronicle.
Judge rules against cops in Occupy Oakland case January 31, 2012 OAKLAND, Calif.—A federal judge in California has ruled that an Oakland police officer who covered his nameplate during a November Occupy protest seriously violated court-approved conduct standards for the city's police department.
U.S. District Judge Thelton Henderson issued the ruling against officer John Hargraves and Oakland police Lt. Clifford Wong. Wong was accused of failing to report Hargraves' actions to the department's internal affairs unit.
The San Francisco Chronicle reports ( http://bit.ly/za1BF2) that Henderson has not decided whether to hold contempt proceedings against the officers.
Hargraves has said he concealed his nameplate to protect himself and his family after an Occupy protester posted the name and address of another officer and called for burning down his home.
Hargraves and Wong's lawyer, John Verber, declined to comment.
I don't know what happened, but this editorial was linked to the Tribune. It's actually honest, I think somebody's off their meds or something. Alert the detectives, we're gonna find this guy floating in the Cal-Sag or something in the next couple days.
Both of these guys are better off. They have probably extended their lives. Why take all the pressure from these maniacs running the city and dept. now. Take your pension and do something else.
Don't know either guy but let me say from the bottom of my heart.... "fuck both of these crybaby gold stars!" Nobody gave a rat's ass about the MSF guys that got displaced so why should we care about dudes with Golden Pensions.
It's time for Hargenshiemmer to go but McNaughton is still a short-timer as far as bosses go and his kids are still in high school or just entering college. If he is leaving, my best is that he's been offerred a pretty good gig elsewhere.
Don't worry , there are plenty of others that are willing to sell their souls for an opportunity to work 70 hour weeks and to be yelled at like a disobedient child at Comstat meetings.
Mcnaughton isn't going anywhere. First of all he has no time on the job and second of all he would be nothing on this job if he wasn't alderman Levars' neighborbor growing up in Our Lady of Victory parish on the noerthwest side. Then low and behold, he meets aunt Bea in 10 and he skyrockets. He was a dog ass beat cop in 014 and anyone who knew him back then would tell you the same. The drive isn't that far when the city is paying the gas bill.
Dont know CMDR 22 personally, but 39 years on, if he wants to leave it should be on his terms not theirs.
McNaughton is to young to go anywhere. Supt made a point of saying he wants guys who were in nice spots to deal with shit spots and vice versa. He also said he wants the best guy in the district regardless of race, guess that explains Leo.
Anyone who has worked 40 years for this god for saken department will not retire. They will go out kicking and screaming, even if this guy in 022 was demoted!
Did anyone realize that the Youth Div. Commander has the office exactly one floor below that of the Supt. The same view, floor plan, dimensions and private bathroom. It was chosen by Youth C.O. Roberta Bartich back when the move was made to 35th and Michigan. The space is larger and fancier than the office of the 1st Dept. Supt., Chief of Patrol or C.O. of Legal Affairs. So who can blame Hargenschmoocher for not wanting to exchange the luxury of H.Q. for a cubicle on 111th Street?
Bet it's true,we are down to bare bones and a steady stream of retirees,can't wait to leave this wretched place that use to be the best job in the world! Thanks to short shanks Jfled and Racoon!
No surprise there. I believe this is part of the plan, make everyone miserable so that they will go. Don't know the guy from 22 but McNaughten is a decent guy who made a correct statement at a compstat meeting & the payback for having a set of balls and saying what all the white shirts should be saying was to screw with his bread & butter. And to all the Chiefs at the 35th street secret meeting, please show us that your smarter than this goof of a mayor and tell him to go fuck himself.
Well, unlike hizz royal highness that we the taxpayers are lectured about having to be eternally grateful for his service -- demanded to present great offerings of gifts to this god into perpetuity ...well oh I think you get it.
Typical. One thing goes against these clout clowns they QUIT! What a job. 80% of the department would be gone if we quit when we got dealt a bad hand, but for the 20%, one little wave and overboard they go. Reminds me of an Italin skipper.
Remember how many of the clout cowards ran like bitches when Cline got kicked to the curb. Fuck em, bunch of pussies every fuckin one of em.
Dear Scc: no info but I wouldn't be surprised about Hargensheimer. He's been in Youth as long as I can remember. As the actual working part of the police dept. when it came to youth, all we are supposed to do is arrest. We don't some up with programs to help the youth. That's someone else's job. Maybe he wouldn't go along with the new number system. but anyway, good luck to him and anyone that retires. Wish I could go but I have a couple of more years.
I'm sure that is just the beginning... Those who are able to leave are probably going to leave unless they have a phone call. The City is getting what they want. We should, too.
It all ties back to a lack of money right? Oh and guess what? Lookie here...
Let's all open our hymnals and read along with hizzhonor about showing respect for the laws, broken windows and sweating the little stuff because it's suppose to matter..
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Is Lollapalooza stiffing the state?
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Nobody seems to know how this happened or why. Background…
Although Lollapalooza is very much a for-profit event, it partners to apply for all of its licenses with the non-profit Parkways Foundation, a favorite group of former Mayor Daley and his late wife, Maggie. A long-term sweetheart deal negotiated in part by the festival’s attorney and lobbyist, Daley nephew Mark Vanecko, exempts it from paying the 5 percent city amusement tax and the 1.5 percent county amusement tax, as well as the state sales tax levied on every other major event in Chicago—even though the municipal code clearly states that every big concert and sporting event must pay what’s owed unless 100 percent of its profits go to charity. […]
The loss in sales tax could be even more substantial, Gainer said, since local government has no idea what that cut of souvenir, food, and alcohol sales would even be. Parkways applies for the festival’s liquor license, but as this blog has reported, actual sales are handled by a corporation co-owned by Texas promoters C3 Presents and local bar owner Kevin Killerman, a client and friend of Vanecko.
* More…
Mayor Rahm Emanuel has said he would ask the City Council to appoint a “third-party, independent” negotiator to broker talks with Lollapalooza and determine whether to eliminate the music festival’s multi-million dollar amusement tax exemption.
The hands-off stance is necessitated by the involvement of Emanuel’s brother, Hollywood super-agent Ari Emanuel. Ari Emanuel is the CEO of William Morris Endeavor, which co-owns Lollapalooza.
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Illinois law states that to qualify for an exemption from the sales tax, “Your organization must be not-for-profit and organized and operated exclusively for charitable, religious, educational, or governmental purposes.” Lollapalooza, which is co-owned by politically well-connected Texas concert promoters C3 Presents and Hollywood talent agency William Morris Endeavor (run by Mayor Rahm Emmanuel’s brother, Ari) clearly is a for-profit venture.
Last year, the festival gave Parkways more than $2 million for park improvements. But its gross revenues were more than $21 million, and it did not pay the 5-percent city amusement tax, the 1.5-percent county amusement tax, or any fee to rent and close Grant Park for much of the summer.
more details here >> http://capitolfax.com/2012/01/31/is-lollapalooza-stiffing-the-state/
G-8 and NATO preview? Anyone catch Oakland's peacefull protests? Hot time in Chicago in May. Many more exempts will go in April.
Recall petitions to remove Rahm will blanket the City before the end of May. Lori Healy will be unemployable for years. Oakland locked up 400 but can we do 4000 in one day.
HARGENSHIEMER (SIC)maybe has age and time - reportly said he wouldnt leave on their terms. McNaughton's not close to being maxxed unless he has other options .....
Anyone else hear that 4 or 5 Tact Lieutenants have said they have had enough of the filling in on all three watchs and have asked to be put on watches?
Hargensheimer was / is a COMPANY MAN for most of his career. So now he's upset that they are going to make him be the Commander of a District and all the benefits that go along with it ? Boy, driving around in my westside ghetto beat car I really feel sorry for him. My heart bleeds for the poor guy that has had cake jobs his entire existence on the C.P.D.
He has always looked at underlings like they do not deserve to breath the same air as him.
It's not likely McNaughton quit. I talked to him three days ago and there was no mention of resignation. He a tolerant guy, and will put up with their bullshit as long as he can. This administration is so screwed up, they have no concept of being good managers, have no class, and have poor if not toxic managerial skills.
ehhh....how stupid can the general public at large be?
Are most of us THAT ignorant of the blatant attempts to force commander's OFF the job?
Wake up idiots.... Efuckstick and his pet shitstick McFuckhead are ALL ABOUT finding any way they can to make this job as fucked up as they can to FORCE people to leave.
That's why they gave the fake promotion to Kup....they knew it wasn't gonna cost them a red cent so they did it for BS political reasons that no one fell for.
Now that they've watched THIS work, you'll see ALL district commanders getting assfucked to bumfuck egypt in the hopes they all fucking quit and leave the no account "XO" in charge of the districts... JUST LIKE THEY DID IN NEW YORK!!!
A mass exodus would be great. Great for the budget. Great for the exempts themselves who see themselves as imortal and often work till they have the big one, when they could have retired ions ago. Great for rahm, because who needs know it all exempts when they can promote the reverends picks and pander to the homie vote. They just do what they are told and never think.
BUT, it would be horrible for the citizens who are often duped into thinking that crime is down, and police are criminals, and police are greedy pension mongers. All the while Rahm and the 50 thieves vote themselves raises and have their minions and media lakeys like Frank Lame applaude them endlessly and unconditionally. Citizens are duped with the "Crime is Down" bullshit while the bodies pile up at the morgue with gymshoes sticking out under the white sheets and arms hanging over the sides. Exempts should quit.. because this ship is sinking and rahm WILL NOT TAKE THE G8 HEAT BY HIMSELF. HE NEEDS YOU, HE REALLY NEEDS YOU BOYS.
Talked to a boss at a suburban Department. He was not happy with the Chicago Police Department. OK. That was a huge understatement. He is PISSED!
It seems that Chicago called a bunch of top bosses from other departments to 35th street for a big informational meeting on the G8. Top secret information, need to know stuff, except, they didn't tell them anything that wasn't in the papers.
The Chiefs were then paraded past the Channel 7 cameras that were "tipped off" about the "secret meeting" the suburban Departments were called to. Since Channel 7 is in the bag for Chicago, you didn't have to be a Chief to figure out you had been used as a prop. Are we getting that desperate already? Way to piss off our suburban brothers with that transparent nonsense.
Wait until compstat this week, the "tell" signs will be there if this is true. Mc-magician will not let these guys speak, in fear of another John B. incident
Gotta go with the previous posters...it is incredibly hard to muster any sympathy for an exempt. However they are treated cannot come even close to how badly the rank and file are treated every single day. Commander of the 8th district? Wow, how cruel.
Jimmy Maurer, Jack Kennedy, Rich Stevens, Brad Woods, et al will read about the changes from their villa in Acapulco as they raise a cold one to the sunny sky.
McNaughton just wants out of 008. Everyone keeps getting him confused with Sgt. McMahon. Just this AM Richie Scott put his arm around him and started talking about the glory days before he realized it wasn't his old partner T Mac but the new commander.
Anonymous said... Does anyone know if the burglary teams are working g8/nato?
1/31/2012 08:32:00 AM
I am not on a Burglary team but you know what? Why don't you ask them since you care so much. Quit posting this on the blog. I'm sorry you couldn't get a spot on the Burglary team but get over it.
It looks like McNaughtons Tact Lt is about to drop his papers. He said there is NO WAY he would work for an "egghead" like Mealer. He has even cleaned out most of his office already. The tipoff is that he still hasnt gone to G8 training and has no plans to go either.
The department moved these two members from good units to shitty units so they would retire. Maybe to save money? Just move exempts from good spots to shitty spots and PRESTO; they quit. Saving the city a ton of money.
Apparently Salemme is starting his clean sweep at Fugitive Apprehension. A few sgts dumped today. Funny those were fill's guys and if it weren't for fill, Salemme would be nobody.
Boo fucking hoo. You are a commander making commander's pay and getting a commander's pension. So they move you, it is part of the job description. And you have a company car. That is what is wrong with this job, too many cry babies who think they are above what Police Officers have to do. Too many have lost touch with what we became the police for. Well then again many came on never having the intention of being the police. Oh just forget the whole thing. You dumbass Dickhead! This is no time to be the police. Too many officers have been fucked greatly by this lousy department. This department does not care about any working officer. I did not take this job to police anyone. And I never did a damn thing in my whole career. I took the job for the pay and benefits. I am not ashamed of that. so take your head out of your ass and lay low before you get fucked by IAD, IPRA and this lousy department.
Fresh off the rumor mill, a good source says expect to see a whole bunch of people getting stripped for false reports / rule 14 violations. Allegations of padding numbers and falsifying parkers, curfews, truants...even contact cards. Inspectors found 'irregularities and inconsistencies' in how a beat car in very busy districts could write dozens of each during their tour. They are pulling gps to see if you were where you said you were and the "name check clear via PDT" on contact cards is gonna get people hung out to dry. I was wondering why a certain newly minted inspector has been in the station on all watches for weeks now. Remember kids, it's simple math- 20 contact cards @ (let's use for example) 5-6 minutes each to scribble out and name check = almost 2 hours of your day. Do you see the red flag this s!$t has raised???? ***DO NOT FALL VICTIM TO THE BOSSES NUMBERS GAME!!!! Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
1/31/2012 08:30:00 AM
I don't feel sorry or remorseful for any asshole police officer who is dumb enough to do such things. That is completely foolish; to make up stuff or falsify simple things like contact cards, traffic stop cards, curfews, etc... just to pad your numbers. All for what? Do you get a fucking bonus? Do you get to stay on the watch of your choice if you don't have seniority? Complete idiots.
Just a simple fact if you are 50 and have over 10 years on(which is what "vested" means), then you can check out of this roach motel with a check for the rest of your life,,,it won't be huge and you might actually have to work doing something you like, somewhere you like,with people you can actually stand without puking, rather than this thankless crap... Which is more than what you get if you frazzle yourself for these clout moron bosses, suck ass, then have a heart attack or a debilitating stroke and die or become a veg. But then again, some people are just born to suck ass. I was not. The fishing is great in Florida....
WOW like I should feel sorry fot them. They are both retiring with the Gold Braid pension & will be making more on pension they most of us make working. So SCREW them both.
Anonymous said... Anonymous said... Does anyone know if the burglary teams are working g8/nato?
1/31/2012 08:32:00 AM
I am not on a Burglary team but you know what? Why don't you ask them since you care so much. Quit posting this on the blog. I'm sorry you couldn't get a spot on the Burglary team but get over it.
1/31/2012 04:35:00 PM
EVERYONE is working G/8 Nato in some way or another. 12 hour shifts for all.
Mcnaughton isn't going anywhere. First of all he has no time on the job and second of all he would be nothing on this job if he wasn't alderman Levars' neighborbor growing up in Our Lady of Victory parish on the noerthwest side. Then low and behold, he meets aunt Bea in 10 and he skyrockets. He was a dog ass beat cop in 014 and anyone who knew him back then would tell you the same. The drive isn't that far when the city is paying the gas bill.
Don't know either guy but let me say from the bottom of my heart.... "fuck both of these crybaby gold stars!" Nobody gave a rat's ass about the MSF guys that got displaced so why should we care about dudes with Golden Pensions.
Holy fuck! How long do we have to listen to these 4-6 year wonders moan about MSF? Newsflash! You were not elite! You were naive! You were stupid enough to trust Weis and the city! You were inexperienced and signed up for a (cough) "unit" most of us didn't want to go near. You got fucked, but it was a result of your poor decision making! You are correct that no one gives a rat's ass about MSF, though. Move on. The rest of us are tired of listening to you. Good luck removing the tattoo.
Who cares??? When is someone going to promote Ryan?
He is still busy cleaning up the mess in 19 made by a former female capt. What a cluster, lots of cryin' babies who don't want to do their jobs. This was truly the inmates running the asylum, head nut in charge.
Worked for Hargesheimer when he was a newly minted LT in Gangs North in the 80's...was promoted legit and a hard charger in his day, part of the McCotter crew..went to Youth where I worked for him as a YO...knows his stuff, especially about child porn, abuse, hotline cases. Worked closely with Postal Inspectors on big cases involving child porn and exploitation. A part of this job that most of you gel hair knuckleheads know nothing about...Very ugly and nasty stuff...I left youth partly because of that...Infants, babies, toddlers victims of horrendous shit....still bothers me 20 yrs later. so all you haters on Youth Div, or as they're called now SVU, a big royal GFU...more to this job than a dime bag or a gun pinch. Just shows you the assholes don't care about anything..Go for it Bob, you earned it.
So what if there are inspectors looking at our contact cards?? I work in a busy district. I contact card virtually everyone I come into contact with. Yes, I come in with 10 some days but some days it's slow and I come in with none. Be legit, play by the rules, and you won't get jammed up. You have a radio, at the very least. So what if the dispatcher doesn't run the name and comes back with 'no record..' it's on tape that you ran the name on the air and you are covered, rule 14 wise anyway.
Also, it does not take 2 hours to enter 20 of them. Not even close.
Oh yeah...and my 2 tour Nam buddy of 40 yrs tells me I'm more PTSD'd than most of his support group...nothin to brag on...just glad I made it out to collect a pension...HERE THAT CIVIC FEDERATION/MEDIA? You WILL be fuckin with the wrong people.
I call bullshit. There is something though that I think should be addressed by the department, why aren't we getting taught any type of first aid for this G8 thing? I could care less about a protestor but what about one of our own? My first aid dates back to the early 90's in the Marines. A refresher would be nice.
Dont know CMDR 22 personally, but 39 years on, if he wants to leave it should be on his terms not theirs.
McNaughton is to young to go anywhere. Supt made a point of saying he wants guys who were in nice spots to deal with shit spots and vice versa. He also said he wants the best guy in the district regardless of race, guess that explains Leo.
1/31/2012 12:09:00 PM
Not sure how much that is true about the moves because McNaughton was already a commander of a district and he got sent to another district. Roy was already commander of a unit and he got sent to another unit. Doesn't look like there is really any rhyme or reason. Maybe just a fake reason to move people around.
How embarrassing is it going to be across the nation when the Cub/Sox Crosstown Classic has to be cancelled when the "Occupy Retards" figure out it will give them maximum television exposure. It's seriously bad timing!
BY FRANCINE KNOWLES Business Reporter fknowles@suntimes.com January 31, 2012 10:26AM
"Home prices in the Chicago metropolitan area fell 3.4 percent in November from October and are down 5.9 percent from November 2010, according to the latest Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller Home Price index.
"Nationally, the 10-city and 20-city indexes both fell 1.3 percent from October. The Chicago area posted the biggest month-over-month decline and was among 19 of the 20 cities in the index to post price drops.
"Prices have fallen in the Chicago area for three straight months, following four months of increases, and are at levels last seen in May 2001.
"The 10-city composite was down 3.6 percent year-over-year, and the 20-city composite dropped 3.7 percent from November 2010. The declines were worse than the annual declines reported for October.
“Despite continued low interest rates and better real GDP growth in the fourth quarter, home prices continue to fall,” David Blitzer, chairman of the Index Committee at S&P Indices, said in a statement. “The trend is down and there are few, if any, signs in the numbers that a turning point is close at hand.”
Dave McNaughton is an example of what is "right" with this Dept. When people like Dave leave,it is a victory for what is "wrong" with the Dept. For those of you don't know him he is a smart,straight laced,kind,family man of faith. Everything that the Obama,Emanuel template despise. I hope this is just a rumor.
Just a simple fact if you are 50 and have over 10 years on(which is what "vested" means), then you can check out of this roach motel with a check for the rest of your life,,,it won't be huge and you might actually have to work doing something you like, somewhere you like,with people you can actually stand without puking, rather than this thankless crap... Which is more than what you get if you frazzle yourself for these clout moron bosses, suck ass, then have a heart attack or a debilitating stroke and die or become a veg. But then again, some people are just born to suck ass. I was not. The fishing is great in Florida....
1/31/2012 04:51:00 PM Your wrong! your vested after 20 years unless you are being forced off because you turned 63. If and only if you are forced off at 63 than you are considered vested after 10 years.
Anonymous said... Kevin Chambers' name has been surfacing a lot lately at HQ to take the next step and command the 008th District. He has paid his dues and his time has finally arrived. Being able to speak fluent Polish should seal the deal with the constituents along Archet Avenue!
Jimmy Maurer, Jack Kennedy, Rich Stevens, Brad Woods, et al will read about the changes from their villa in Acapulco as they raise a cold one to the sunny sky.
Retirement is great as they can proudly state! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Let us not forget their cabin boy servant, Ed O Donnell.
I heard the one and only JF from tact taking over as 008 Dist Commander. He is being promoted to do his savy choice of fashion for funerals. He wants all tact and incident guys and gals using hair gel and wearing tight skinny jeans with nice white gym shoes.
I am just a lowly blue shirt! So to the bosses i\we do not matter. today after roll call listened to 2 big bosses talking to each other about g8 and they both say "time to hit the medical because of summit" Wow that really instills confidence in this 26 year veteran PO. hey boss let me tell you this or any other cowards if you are planning to not help out a fellow officer please i beg you turn in your badge today. No I am not a rambo or hero but if called to help my fellow officer I am there. None of us are in favor of g8 but it is a done deal!
Don't expect too much help for G8..City still won't indemnify suburban departments. Also, no gas will be used. Building ventilation systems intakes too close to the ground. Feds will be in charge of the actual protest areas, and will call the shots, CPD will call the shots in the surrounding areas (Grant park, etc...)
If 016 gets Sodini then good for 016 and sad for us in 017. Both Ron & Jeff are absolute GEMS to work for. The watch runs like a fine tuned watch. And everybody comes in with a little something to keep the Lt's happy.
Gee what a concept, treat your subordinates nice and they do work?
Did Ralm just brag about that there was no homicides in the last five days when confronted with the overall increase in homicides for Jan.?
Well guess what?
Body in car found at West Beverly fire scene Updated 5:20 p.m.
A man's body with a gunshot wound was discovered this morning inside a vehicle following a house fire in the city's West Beverly neighborhood on the South Side.
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Body discovered in Lawndale trash container Updated 3:56 p.m.
One person was found dead in a trash container this afternoon following a report of a suspicious object on the West Side.
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Bodies are popping up everywhere. Some people never learn.
Kevin Chambers' name has been surfacing a lot lately at HQ to take the next step and command the 008th District. He has paid his dues and his time has finally arrived. Being able to speak fluent Polish should seal the deal with the constituents along Archet Avenue!
1/31/2012 09:45:00 AM
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He went to the FBI school with the old 007 Cmdr. KC, and won some major award there. I heard he basically got the CPD contingent through the tests.
City is broke -- any more about those fire ambulance cutbacks reported here? -- but Channel 7 just showed that Navy Pier is going to be completely rebuilt AGAIN!
Accepting different designs, crazy drawings with giant glaciers out in the lake that squirt water, all kinds of weird stuff.
Probably winning contract will go to Vanecko Construction...
Anyone else hear that 4 or 5 Tact Lieutenants have said they have had enough of the filling in on all three watchs and have asked to be put on watches?
Little late for that .... they filled out their watch bid last year and they're stuck working at the departments discretion until 2013.
Kevin Chambers' name has been surfacing a lot lately at HQ to take the next step and command the 008th District. He has paid his dues and his time has finally arrived. Being able to speak fluent Polish should seal the deal with the constituents along Archet Avenue!
I've been around here a long time, 26 years in patrol, in 8 different districts ...... who the f%$k is Kevin Chambers??? Paid his dues? Where?? I've never seen hide nor hair of this guy. WHere did he pay these dues, at the Irish "Cultural" Center or at the ward office?
FUK THE COWARDS like we want the likes of Meahler at G8? Do nothing and let the city burn Fuk the bosses they will get blamed and we will not get fired Give Rahm waht he wants a good crisis to axe some bosses and show good citizen his stupidity in bringing this fiasco to Chocago. the olympics looks like paradise LoL
To the P.O.? who said that you cannot be vested after ten years of service. You are absolutely 100% wrong. You are eligible and will receive a pittance {don't remember at what age you can begin to receive it} but yes, you are vested. It's amazing how much misinformation gets posted here by those who don't do their homework. Retired guy. Keep safe.
(OT) No special prosecutor fro Vaneko naw just a dream that a young innocent man was KILLED/MURDERED! alvarez and her crew don't want this machine kid found GUILTY! If it was a noclout copper they would of hung him/her! Can't the feds do a civil rights investigation? Hey vaneko where is the 60 MILLION you stole from our pension fund? What board reps aloud this brazen theft?
Two suits in the district today (011, 2/w) having front office civilan ticket clerk pull copies of parkers while some computer geek with them pulled every contact card for what looked like months from the automated CC screen.
The Witch Hunt seems to be in full effect. Be smart everyone.
No planning, Too many bosses stepping on each other, nobody willing to make the big decisions. Just wait for a fly by the pants routine to ensue. set up your personal emergency kits for when your sent down with nothing. ON GOOD AUTHORITY.
(OT) My brother is a TSA supervisor (I know many don't like TSA) but he is noticing a trend some airlines like Southwest are offering great fares from California to Chicago in the month of May,like $200.00 with taxes round trip,then he looked at ages of flyers for a homeland security analysis and surprise many of the passengers do not have same last name as would for vacationers to this city (Like in families), many younger people coming here! OK call me crazy but maybe just maybe the airports should be also beefed up!
Why? My brother and I both agree that the energy that these possible occupiers will have both coming into this city,and especially going back home when they are feeling defeated could bring up an interesting set of circumstances at both airports. Think a bunch of pissed off wanna be hippies mad because Chicago was ready and willing to defend the homeland!
Just a simple fact if you are 50 and have over 10 years on(which is what "vested" means), then you can check out of this roach motel with a check for the rest of your life,,,it won't be huge and you might actually have to work doing something you like, somewhere you like,with people you can actually stand without puking, rather than this thankless crap... Which is more than what you get if you frazzle yourself for these clout moron bosses, suck ass, then have a heart attack or a debilitating stroke and die or become a veg. But then again, some people are just born to suck ass. I was not. The fishing is great in Florida....
1/31/2012 04:51:00 PM Your wrong! your vested after 20 years unless you are being forced off because you turned 63. If and only if you are forced off at 63 than you are considered vested after 10 years.
1/31/2012 08:32:00 PM - No, you're wrong. You are vested after ten years. You can't draw a pension, but you're vested.
Being able to pension out is a different story from being vested. Maybe it's time to actually read those documents that get passed around and circle-filed every year.
I am not an exempt but I am going to the Pension Board tomorrow. 1.5 years ahead of schedule. fuck this place, I am done.
1/31/2012 06:54:00 PM
I went a year early and haven't regretted it once. It's still stressful to hear about what my friends have to deal with on the job, but at least I'm out of the mix. What a relief to escape the power politics, the petty b.s. and the constant 'improvements' to the department. And, what a new conceept, to be able to sleep on my schedule, instead of the Dept's. It's great.
Judge rules against cops in Occupy Oakland case January 31, 2012
This asshole was appointed to the Federal Bench by Jimmy Carter. He makes decisions based on race.The guy is a police-hater. In a landmark 1995 civil rights case, Madrid v. Gomez, Henderson found the use of force and level of medical care at the notorious Pelican Bay State Prison unconstitutional. During its subsequent federal oversight process, Henderson was known to visit the prison personally.
In a 1997 decision, he struck down Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action California initiative, as unconstitutional. He was criticized by many supporters of Proposition 209, and the next year a three-judge Court of Appeals panel overturned his decision.
In 1982 Henderson overturned the conviction of Johnny Spain, the only member of The San Quentin Six convicted of murder for the deaths of three California Correctional Peace Officers and two inmates in a riot and escape attempt led by Black Panther Party member and Black Guerilla Family founder George Jackson.
Fuck this guy, double fuck Jimmy Carter, & triple all DemocRATS.
I would imagine Walsh will be about ready to do the same soon, if not sooner! Being cmdr of an Area is a whole different game than taking over an Area 2 district...and she knows she's not going any higher. She's been an exempt for quite a few years now, she has the time and the age, she won't get another dime extra out of the pension, and the stress of taking over a district after so much time in an area has been known to shorten many a lifespan (Kup).
How the hell can they mess with you over parkers? If you write them and the time coincides with where you were at, then it's your word against the citizen with the automobile's word. Aren't we supposed to have credibility?? Jeez, this is getting re-goddam-diculous. May as well sit back and do NOTHING!
Someone answer this question the humpers that we do everyday r they illegal to do per the contract. I thought they were taken away years ago. And r those official police documents. Can you imagine be stripped fOr saying you got. 2 Parker's on Wednesday but really u only got one. Moral is at an all time low. The minute cops get stripped for this wait till u c depolicing
Hargeshiemer was a softball who commanded women, er, school marm's, his entire Youth Division career. He was a absolute doofus as a young cadet in 020 forty years ago, and was a doofus in 079.
Hey dont know this Mc Naughton guy but he gets on 294 S at 0900 gets off at 55 N to Central goes south to 55th street has breakfast with the troops at Sammys and is at the station by 1030. Couple of meetings usual B.S. leaves at 1600 drives to the west end of 008 and home by 1730 reverse commute.Portal to Portal 9.5 hours not bad. If he a good as guy as everyone says the coppers in 008 will work for him.
McCarthy wants the commanders from slower Districts to move to faster Districts like he did in NY. Can't say I agree with that.
These Commanders have either come from that hood or spent their lives in the Unit. That's a lot of experience to make up for by their replacements, and a lot they won't have in their new spots.
Wow! A commander, one who has a car and gas paid for , $140 grand a year and a pension of over 100 grand a year and might be a little upset because he might have to drive 20 miles to get to work! Now, here is a person who is really out of touch with reality and what the common man has to do for a job. I retired from the job and went to work in private industry. It is very common for people to drive 30-40 miles or more to find a job that will support their family. I have seen people take public transportation across the city for a $10 dollar an hour job! It is tough out here for many working people. If these overpaid, clout heavy cry babies want to quit over this issue, then let them and do not let the door hit you in the ass.
Some of us in the over 50 and 20+ years on the job club may still have to be here for some reason or another. It could be a sick spouse or kids and the insurance can't be changed. It could be a kid in college or high school still. It could be that the economy sucks still and (even though we still get a pension) it will be very hard to find a job that will still be needed.
So quit ripping the old timers, there are thousands of stories out there.
Why all the hate, grow up. It's already been said its not true. Mc Naughton is a good guy. Real gentlemen and approachable. Don't speak if you dont know
I've been around here a long time, 26 years in patrol, in 8 different districts ...... who the f%$k is Kevin Chambers??? Paid his dues? Where?? I've never seen hide nor hair of this guy. WHere did he pay these dues, at the Irish "Cultural" Center or at the ward office?
Being able to pension out is a different story from being vested. Maybe it's time to actually read those documents that get passed around and circle-filed every year.
No you are wrong. No where in the contract is the word vested even mentioned when it comes to retirement. Vested means: vest·ed [ves-tid] Show IPA
adjective 1. held completely, permanently, and inalienably: vested rights.
2. protected or established by law, commitment, tradition, ownership, etc.: vested contributions to a fund.
So, per our contract, you are "vested" in the pension, at 50 years of age with 20 years of service. If you retire before this time you get out of the pension exactly what you contributed and not penny more. Therefore, you are not vested at 10 years, asshat.
(OT) My brother is a TSA supervisor (I know many don't like TSA) but he is noticing a trend some airlines like Southwest are offering great fares from California to Chicago in the month of May,like $200.00 with taxes round trip,then he looked at ages of flyers for a homeland security analysis and surprise many of the passengers do not have same last name as would for vacationers to this city (Like in families), many younger people coming here! OK call me crazy but maybe just maybe the airports should be also beefed up!
Why? My brother and I both agree that the energy that these possible occupiers will have both coming into this city,and especially going back home when they are feeling defeated could bring up an interesting set of circumstances at both airports. Think a bunch of pissed off wanna be hippies mad because Chicago was ready and willing to defend the homeland!
OK boss we will volunteer for this opportunity!
1/31/2012 11:26:00 PM Your correct, ut even bigger I work at a restaurant at O'Hare as a manager and we were called to a meeting and told what kind of problems these people have caused at airports in the past and will cause here! Not going to reveal all the things said on a public blog suffice to say please Mr. McCarthy make sure airports are fully staffed and extra officers ready to go!
The airport system brings in many visitors and business people and must be kept in an orderly fashion! Surely the mayor will be involved in airport security issues!
Kevin Chambers' name has been surfacing a lot lately at HQ to take the next step and command the 008th District. He has paid his dues and his time has finally arrived. Being able to speak fluent Polish should seal the deal with the constituents along Archet Avenue!
I've been around here a long time, 26 years in patrol, in 8 different districts ...... who the f%$k is Kevin Chambers??? Paid his dues? Where?? I've never seen hide nor hair of this guy. WHere did he pay these dues, at the Irish "Cultural" Center or at the ward office?
1/31/2012 10:45:00 PM he paid his dues at the gym, been there lately?
To the two dopes that say you can not get a pension after you have more than ten on. You company suckups are wrong and i am living and very happy proof. Pays caddy note .bait and gas.The city graciously paid for my masters and i got a job i actually like in a place that dont fuck me on taxes all day.Keep drinking the kool aide.
Hargeshiemer was a softball who commanded women, er, school marm's, his entire Youth Division career. He was a absolute doofus as a young cadet in 020 forty years ago, and was a doofus in 01:30:00 AM
No, you're the doofus. Obviously you never worked for him because you would know how supportive he was to the detectives and officers who worked for him. How he knew the details of everyones life who worked for him including all about their kids, spouses, illnesses etc. How he did everything in support of those who worked for him. You would understand how loyal he was to those under his command because they made him look good. You would know how much he was involved in youth related organizations and how much youth related legislation he was involved in. So, just stop because clearly you know nothing.
McNaughton was always a good guy, but I never worked for him when he shot up in rank. He can't have a whole lot of time on though? Maybe just over 20 years?
You knew that. They have never had to work a real day in their life while an Exempt and now you get to the end of their career and you want them to work for a check? Please! Try moving O'Grady, Roti, Welch, Moy, Lodding, C. Andrews, or Kennedy to a real working District/Unit. They will be running for the hills too!
I was hoping Captain O'Donnell would get 005, but during the time he was the Actor, he totally killed morale! He turned out to be a real asshole. He undid everything our previous Commander did, just to do it, it made no sense. He listend to dumb as Lt. Panek and others who did not give a shit about the fact we work in a shit district, work our ass off and don't deserve to be fucked with. Anything is better than that pompus asshole, tooting his own horn while talking shit about all the bosses who put him there!
Someone answer this question the humpers that we do everyday r they illegal to do per the contract. I thought they were taken away years ago. And r those official police documents. Can you imagine be stripped fOr saying you got. 2 Parker's on Wednesday but really u only got one. Moral is at an all time low. The minute cops get stripped for this wait till u c depolicing
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well, instead of making up your activity why dont you just do it! Are you that lazy that you cant write 5 parkers a tour? Even a dog ass should write 5 parkers and at least one mover each tour.. throw in a cta check and your a god to your sgt. But no, dogs have to be dogs and do absolutely nothing the entire tour. This is what is so bad about unions. They enable people to be lazy dog asses. In my opinion, if you dont do shit you should get paid shit. but hey, what do I know.. 4 more years and im outta here.. retirement in florida here I come. Way too many complainers on this job now a days.
And, what a new conceept, to be able to sleep on my schedule, instead of the Dept's. It's great.
1/31/2012 11:49:00 PM
Went longer than should have, but left immediately after maxing out. Do not understand the people, almost 100% men, that hang around after they are maxed out. It just does not make sense, unless the job defines their life.
Hey dont know this Mc Naughton guy but he gets on 294 S at 0900 gets off at 55 N to Central goes south to 55th street has breakfast with the troops at Sammys and is at the station by 1030. Couple of meetings usual B.S. leaves at 1600 drives to the west end of 008 and home by 1730 reverse commute.Portal to Portal 9.5 hours not bad. If he a good as guy as everyone says the coppers in 008 will work for him.
2/01/2012 01:50:00 AM
Wow the man's been in 008 about a week and you have his whole routine down path. Are you stalking him?
Heres the dope on the pension. You are vested after 10 years, but cannot receive a pension without 20 years when you retire. If you have less than 20 years you receive a "Money Purchase Annuity" and it pays alot less. Currently the difference between reiring after completing 20 years versus 19 years and 11 months is $2,000 per month $3,500 verus $1,500 payable for life Make sure you complete 20 years less any bad time Don't pay any attention to the other posters, this is not me talking, but right out of the Pension Advisor that was mailed to all the po's in the last few days by the pension board Just look on page 2
Someone answer this question the humpers that we do everyday r they illegal to do per the contract. I thought they were taken away years ago. And r those official police documents. Can you imagine be stripped fOr saying you got. 2 Parker's on Wednesday but really u only got one. Moral is at an all time low. The minute cops get stripped for this wait till u c depolicing
2/01/2012 01:22:00 AM
No, those aren't official documents. Like the ones from 012 that R.S. started and they never stopped them since he left. I'm not sure which other districts do them along with 012 but they would all have to look the same if they were official and they probably don't. Each district makes up their own version. The faster districts don't use these, only the slower ones I've heard. Basically all your doing is upstairs job or making it easier for them. They are not accurate at all. That's why if you don't hand them in they can't say anything to you, but that would mean the guys in 012 would have to find their balls.
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McNaughton was a Sgt in 017 and he always seemed like a good guy. It figures he's had enough of the nonsense.
My guess is that is exactly what the department wanted to happen.Wonder why?
Spoke with Hargensheimer, told us he is staying. Seems like a very nice guy.
Not true. Mcnaugton loves this job and will work wherever he is told.
"Da SUPE" has a plan.. a 8 year plan..and we are on a "need to know basis" LMAO ..can i be a Cmdr...now?
LIMT (east)
Poor babies. Couldn't do a little work to keep that large pay.
I wish theyd have stuck it in my ass and made me the commander of 022 Or 005 Or 004 Hard to feel sorry for Exempt members
Bullshit. McNaughton may not be happy but doesn't have the time or age to retire.
Maybe this is the icing on the cake for many exempts. Good luck to those who retire now, you should have done this before the year was out.
Ive never felt sorry for any boss who feels mistreated administratively by the dept. Wherever they land, there are a plethera of underlings working. doing more work for less, in some cases a lot less, money Oh fucking well
Just wait city has added TWO extra retirement semminars before the June 1st meeting because of the demand to retire by the rank and file Officers! Was told this never happened at any time even under Shortshank's dictatorship!
This was just a way to get these guys to retire. Apparently the administration has THEIR guys they want in those spots. O'Shea won't have a say in who's going to take over 022. Murders for January are up 50 percent for the month. Let Mc Fibber and Mayor Fucktard explain this to the public. Lack of police, no. Elevated temperatures in winter, yes. Any chance of these Commanders being assigned to Deputy Chiefs as XO's in the area like Corruthers. Nope, wrong flavor.
Boo fucking hoo. You are a commander making commander's pay and getting a commander's pension. So they move you, it is part of the job description. And you have a company car. That is what is wrong with this job, too many cry babies who think they are above what Police Officers have to do. Too many have lost touch with what we became the police for. Well then again many came on never having the intention of being the police. Oh just forget the whole thing.
Ha Way to go Dave!!! You are young and intelligent enough to start another career. Enjoy your life now!!
McNaughton won't quit...I think his younger than 50.
If true the city hall / 35th St purge continues. The dismantling of the CPD to eventually try to hire private security to replace those leaving. Watch for many unplanned retirements coming before G8. These will be veteran CPD who wake up and say I AM DONE! Rahmmy the Commie will be doing jumping jacks and doing push ups in celebration on the 5th. He will celebrate everyday until G8 when the thin blue line is attempting to maintain law and order. During one of his jumping jacks he may see black smoke hovering over Lake Michigan. The dismantling of the CPD is Rahmmy's plan and BigMac is just following it!!!!!! He is a TOOL!
If true the city hall / 35th St purge continues. The dismantling of the CPD to eventually try to hire private security to replace those leaving. Watch for many unplanned retirements coming before G8. These will be veteran CPD who wake up and say I AM DONE! Rahmmy the Commie will be doing jumping jacks and doing push ups in celebration on the 5th. He will celebrate everyday until G8 when the thin blue line is attempting to maintain law and order. During one of his jumping jacks he may see black smoke hovering over Lake Michigan. The dismantling of the CPD is Rahmmy's plan and BigMac is just following it!!!!!! He is a TOOL!
Doubt it for McNaughton... And there will be BIG changes this Friday...
If they're vested for their GOLD BRAID pensions, why not quit this clusterfuck P.D.?
What must we do to get rid of GOLD BRAID political patronage draining our pension fund?
Off topic...
Fresh off the rumor mill, a good source says expect to see a whole bunch of people getting stripped for false reports / rule 14 violations. Allegations of padding numbers and falsifying parkers, curfews, truants...even contact cards. Inspectors found 'irregularities and inconsistencies' in how a beat car in very busy districts could write dozens of each during their tour. They are pulling gps to see if you were where you said you were and the "name check clear via PDT" on contact cards is gonna get people hung out to dry. I was wondering why a certain newly minted inspector has been in the station on all watches for weeks now. Remember kids, it's simple math- 20 contact cards @ (let's use for example) 5-6 minutes each to scribble out and name check = almost 2 hours of your day. Do you see the red flag this s!$t has raised???? ***DO NOT FALL VICTIM TO THE BOSSES NUMBERS GAME!!!! Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
It's called a push or a shove. In polite circles, it is called a suggestion.
Does anyone know if the burglary teams are working g8/nato?
I doubt McNaughton put in his papers. He is only 48 yrs old. I'm sure he isn't happy but he is a company man so he will go wherever they tell him to go and will put on a company face.
all bullshit
that is what the new regime wants!PEOPLE TO RETIRE!
Add Patricia Walsh to your list too...
Typical CPD Style:
If it aint broke, fuck it up
Cmmdr of Youth has been there for over 10 yrs (IF NOT MORE),well versed and knowledgeable in Child Law and Procedure.
So what do we do??? get rid of him???
Don't know if it's true or not, but if it is, then "they" accomplished their objective of thinning the exempt ranks.
If true that's awesome. It sends a message to McNutty and Rahm that everything isn't as rosy as they think.
Problem is if they dig deep enough they'll find suckholes to sell their soles and climb aboard.
The guy in 022 will stick around for about a year.
Too bad, these are two good bosses, let's make sure we keep idiots like Top Cat, and Mealer though, and the list goes on.
Too bad about McNaughton. Over the course of almost an entire carrer, he's one of very few commanders I actually liked
Who isn't retiring. There is a record number of people taking the 55 and put. Their is no mentioning of renewing it. So this is it. Any buddy think about doing it next year is it. dead line to put in is this fall for 2013.
Stay safe and move out of Chicago.
Its an evil city.
Kevin Chambers' name has been surfacing a lot lately at HQ to take the next step and command the 008th District. He has paid his dues and his time has finally arrived. Being able to speak fluent Polish should seal the deal with the constituents along Archet Avenue!
Lots of white shirts of all ranks pissed off after being pissed on by the current administration.
It isn't just the blue shirts that are angry at HackyMac and Rahmbo.
if thats all it takes to get gold stars to leave, lets start the shuffling ASAP:)
Who cares??? When is someone going to promote Ryan?
Two GREAT bosses!! Will be sad to see them go!
I guess they showed mccarthy who the boss is . Good for them , enjoy a long healthy , happy retirement . You both deserve it.
OT: Armed ALDI customer saves a Milwaukee ALDI (quite unlike the Edgewater ALDI armed robbery from a few weeks ago): http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-police-armed-customer-ends-robbery-attempt-20120131,0,6901487.story
HAHAHAHA what a great position to be in. F' Rahm, McStatboy and the Reverends...
McNaughton cannot leave unless he goes through the kool-aid detox program.
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Scc, I'm surprised you didn't post about this. 35th street met with a ton of Suburban Police Chiefs the other day.
http://www.nbcchicago.com/blogs/ward-room/G8-Chicago-police-security-secret-meeting-help-from-departments-protests-protesters-activists-adbusters-138373624.html
off topic, might be worth it's own post.....from the SanFran Chronicle.
Judge rules against cops in Occupy Oakland case
January 31, 2012
OAKLAND, Calif.—A federal judge in California has ruled that an Oakland police officer who covered his nameplate during a November Occupy protest seriously violated court-approved conduct standards for the city's police department.
U.S. District Judge Thelton Henderson issued the ruling against officer John Hargraves and Oakland police Lt. Clifford Wong. Wong was accused of failing to report Hargraves' actions to the department's internal affairs unit.
The San Francisco Chronicle reports ( http://bit.ly/za1BF2) that Henderson has not decided whether to hold contempt proceedings against the officers.
Hargraves has said he concealed his nameplate to protect himself and his family after an Occupy protester posted the name and address of another officer and called for burning down his home.
Hargraves and Wong's lawyer, John Verber, declined to comment.
They go out on top with a $95,000 a year pension, and get another clout job.
I'm not happy so I'm taking my bat and ball and leaving. With a big pay check. Hmmm replacements?
http://www.chicagonow.com/rare-chicago/2012/01/is-it-gun-control-thats-needed-or-dumb-control/
I don't know what happened, but this editorial was linked to the Tribune. It's actually honest, I think somebody's off their meds or something. Alert the detectives, we're gonna find this guy floating in the Cal-Sag or something in the next couple days.
Both of these guys are better off. They have probably extended their lives. Why take all the pressure from these maniacs running the city and dept. now. Take your pension and do something else.
No, untrue about McNaughton
Can't blame them one bit. Wish the best of luck to both of them. Wtg Mayr'/Supe.
It's.all a show of power. The commanders were moved to make room for heavier bosses. That's how our department works.
Don't know either guy but let me say from the bottom of my heart.... "fuck both of these crybaby gold stars!"
Nobody gave a rat's ass about the MSF guys that got displaced so why should we care about dudes with Golden Pensions.
..I thought you meant all exempts, now that would have been good news..
It's time for Hargenshiemmer to go but McNaughton is still a short-timer as far as bosses go and his kids are still in high school or just entering college. If he is leaving, my best is that he's been offerred a pretty good gig elsewhere.
Probably more to go yet!
I can see hargensheimer leaving because he's got 39 yoj and he's 61. Come on get a life already you can't take the money with you.
Mcnaughton only has 20 on and he's only 48. Don't see that happening unless his chinaman has a job lined up at the county or some other sweet gig.
can't blame them.
This dept is so fudge up that I'm sure more will follow.
News from city hall.
If McCarthy doesn't get murders below 2011 levels by March, he's gone. His contract is not like Weis'. McCarthy can be fired for cause.
There is a good chance McCarthy will leave on his own before then. There are even whispers of Jody Weis' triumphant return.
These murder numbers are now THE talk around the mayor. Everything else (school reform, TIF) is taking a back seat.
The bottom line. Don't pack up your stuff in Area 4 or 5 just yet.
Don't worry , there are plenty of others that are willing to sell their souls for an opportunity to work 70 hour weeks and to be yelled at like a disobedient child at Comstat meetings.
McNaughton won't, Hagershaimer will
Ungrateful exempts!
Poor babies, must be rough.
Mcnaughton isn't going anywhere. First of all he has no time on the job and second of all he would be nothing on this job if he wasn't alderman Levars' neighborbor growing up in Our Lady of Victory parish on the noerthwest side. Then low and behold, he meets aunt Bea in 10 and he skyrockets. He was a dog ass beat cop in 014 and anyone who knew him back then would tell you the same. The drive isn't that far when the city is paying the gas bill.
Dont know CMDR 22 personally, but 39 years on, if he wants to leave it should be on his terms not theirs.
McNaughton is to young to go anywhere. Supt made a point of saying he wants guys who were in nice spots to deal with shit spots and vice versa.
He also said he wants the best guy in the district regardless of race, guess that explains Leo.
Anyone who has worked 40 years for this god for saken department will not retire. They will go out kicking and screaming, even if this guy in 022 was demoted!
Who really cares, where is the relevent news?
Did anyone realize that the Youth Div. Commander has the office exactly one floor below that of the Supt. The same view, floor plan, dimensions and private bathroom. It was chosen by Youth C.O. Roberta Bartich back when the move was made to 35th and Michigan. The space is larger and fancier than the office of the 1st Dept. Supt., Chief of Patrol or C.O. of Legal Affairs. So who can blame Hargenschmoocher for not wanting to exchange the luxury of H.Q. for a cubicle on 111th Street?
These are probably northsiders who dont want to be bothered with the commute!
Too comfortable in their easy assignments
Now, having to earn their money, not worth hanging around
If this is true, let's hope the commander of 009 follows suit, and drops his papers as well.
There is more to 009 than box 1 and 3.
This was the exzact intension of McNutty. Now there goes two more heavy weights to suck from our pension fund.
Not true about guy in 8
From the rumors I've heard the Sup. wanted them both gone so it sent them far away in hopes to get rid of them
Bet it's true,we are down to bare bones and a steady stream of retirees,can't wait to leave this wretched place that use to be the best job in the world! Thanks to short shanks Jfled and Racoon!
I call BS, not at all factual
No surprise there. I believe this is part of the plan, make everyone miserable so that they will go. Don't know the guy from 22 but McNaughten is a decent guy who made a correct statement at a compstat meeting & the payback for having a set of balls and saying what all the white shirts should be saying was to screw with his bread & butter.
And to all the Chiefs at the 35th street secret meeting, please show us that your smarter than this goof of a mayor and tell him to go fuck himself.
JUST 60 DAY'S UNTIL THE APOCALYPSE!
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Well, unlike hizz royal highness that we the taxpayers are lectured about having to be eternally grateful for his service -- demanded to present great offerings of gifts to this god into perpetuity ...well oh I think you get it.
Typical. One thing goes against these clout clowns they QUIT! What a job. 80% of the department would be gone if we quit when we got dealt a bad hand, but for the 20%, one little wave and overboard they go. Reminds me of an Italin skipper.
Remember how many of the clout cowards ran like bitches when Cline got kicked to the curb. Fuck em, bunch of pussies every fuckin one of em.
Dear Scc: no info but I wouldn't be surprised about Hargensheimer. He's been in Youth as long as I can remember. As the actual working part of the police dept. when it came to youth, all we are supposed to do is arrest. We don't some up with programs to help the youth. That's someone else's job. Maybe he wouldn't go along with the new number system. but anyway, good luck to him and anyone that retires. Wish I could go but I have a couple of more years.
moves were made, in part, to "nudge" some folks to leave....
I say BS
both will be area deputy chiefs
I'm sure that is just the beginning... Those who are able to leave are probably going to leave unless they have a phone call. The City is getting what they want. We should, too.
It all ties back to a lack of money right? Oh and guess what? Lookie here...
Let's all open our hymnals and read along with hizzhonor about showing respect for the laws, broken windows and sweating the little stuff because it's suppose to matter..
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Is Lollapalooza stiffing the state?
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Nobody seems to know how this happened or why. Background…
Although Lollapalooza is very much a for-profit event, it partners to apply for all of its licenses with the non-profit Parkways Foundation, a favorite group of former Mayor Daley and his late wife, Maggie. A long-term sweetheart deal negotiated in part by the festival’s attorney and lobbyist, Daley nephew Mark Vanecko, exempts it from paying the 5 percent city amusement tax and the 1.5 percent county amusement tax, as well as the state sales tax levied on every other major event in Chicago—even though the municipal code clearly states that every big concert and sporting event must pay what’s owed unless 100 percent of its profits go to charity. […]
The loss in sales tax could be even more substantial, Gainer said, since local government has no idea what that cut of souvenir, food, and alcohol sales would even be. Parkways applies for the festival’s liquor license, but as this blog has reported, actual sales are handled by a corporation co-owned by Texas promoters C3 Presents and local bar owner Kevin Killerman, a client and friend of Vanecko.
* More…
Mayor Rahm Emanuel has said he would ask the City Council to appoint a “third-party, independent” negotiator to broker talks with Lollapalooza and determine whether to eliminate the music festival’s multi-million dollar amusement tax exemption.
The hands-off stance is necessitated by the involvement of Emanuel’s brother, Hollywood super-agent Ari Emanuel. Ari Emanuel is the CEO of William Morris Endeavor, which co-owns Lollapalooza.
[...]
Illinois law states that to qualify for an exemption from the sales tax, “Your organization must be not-for-profit and organized and operated exclusively for charitable, religious, educational, or governmental purposes.” Lollapalooza, which is co-owned by politically well-connected Texas concert promoters C3 Presents and Hollywood talent agency William Morris Endeavor (run by Mayor Rahm Emmanuel’s brother, Ari) clearly is a for-profit venture.
Last year, the festival gave Parkways more than $2 million for park improvements. But its gross revenues were more than $21 million, and it did not pay the 5-percent city amusement tax, the 1.5-percent county amusement tax, or any fee to rent and close Grant Park for much of the summer.
more details here >> http://capitolfax.com/2012/01/31/is-lollapalooza-stiffing-the-state/
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WE WANT OUR BACK TAXES RAHM!!!
G-8 and NATO preview? Anyone catch Oakland's peacefull protests? Hot time in Chicago in May. Many more exempts will go in April.
Recall petitions to remove Rahm will blanket the City before the end of May. Lori Healy will be unemployable for years. Oakland locked up 400 but can we do 4000 in one day.
HARGENSHIEMER (SIC)maybe has age and time - reportly said he wouldnt leave on their terms. McNaughton's not close to being maxxed unless he has other options .....
Anyone else hear that 4 or 5 Tact Lieutenants have said they have had enough of the filling in on all three watchs and have asked to be put on watches?
commander leaving because their moved around, how about po that were screwed?
Hargensheimer was / is a COMPANY MAN for most of his career. So now he's upset that they are going to make him be the Commander of a District and all the benefits that go along with it ? Boy, driving around in my westside ghetto beat car I really feel sorry for him. My heart bleeds for the poor guy that has had cake jobs his entire existence on the C.P.D.
He has always looked at underlings like they do not deserve to breath the same air as him.
He will not be missed.
The guy from youth - JERK
The guy from 016 - good guy.
I'll take his job in 008.
Contact a no clout blue shirt with excellent well rounded skills. They'll get it done. They already do.
America
It's not likely McNaughton quit. I talked to him three days ago and there was no mention of resignation. He a tolerant guy, and will put up with their bullshit as long as he can. This administration is so screwed up, they have no concept of being good managers, have no class, and have poor if not toxic managerial skills.
ehhh....how stupid can the general public at large be?
Are most of us THAT ignorant of the blatant attempts to force commander's OFF the job?
Wake up idiots.... Efuckstick and his pet shitstick McFuckhead are ALL ABOUT finding any way they can to make this job as fucked up as they can to FORCE people to leave.
That's why they gave the fake promotion to Kup....they knew it wasn't gonna cost them a red cent so they did it for BS political reasons that no one fell for.
Now that they've watched THIS work, you'll see ALL district commanders getting assfucked to bumfuck egypt in the hopes they all fucking quit and leave the no account "XO" in charge of the districts... JUST LIKE THEY DID IN NEW YORK!!!
Captain's Association President Hoot B. will be on the phone...
A new way to get rid of exempts?
Bobbie Hargesheimer was one of the best of Youth Special Investigatons in the old days, as well as being a gentleman.
Don't know McNaughton, but it's a long ride from 016 to 008.
Same two company guys who will tell you to work harder and bring in more activity but when they get moved around they quit. Great leadership.
Not true
A mass exodus would be great. Great for the budget. Great for the exempts themselves who see themselves as imortal and often work till they have the big one, when they could have retired ions ago. Great for rahm, because who needs know it all exempts when they can promote the reverends picks and pander to the homie vote. They just do what they are told and never think.
BUT, it would be horrible for the citizens who are often duped into thinking that crime is down, and police are criminals, and police are greedy pension mongers. All the while Rahm and the 50 thieves vote themselves raises and have their minions and media lakeys like Frank Lame applaude them endlessly and unconditionally.
Citizens are duped with the "Crime is Down" bullshit while the bodies pile up at the morgue with gymshoes sticking out under the white sheets and arms hanging over the sides. Exempts should quit.. because this ship is sinking and rahm WILL NOT TAKE THE G8 HEAT BY HIMSELF. HE NEEDS YOU, HE REALLY NEEDS YOU BOYS.
Maybe this will mean that Sodini will rise again!
Talked to a boss at a suburban Department. He was not happy with the Chicago Police Department. OK. That was a huge understatement. He is PISSED!
It seems that Chicago called a bunch of top bosses from other departments to 35th street for a big informational meeting on the
G8. Top secret information, need to know stuff, except, they didn't tell them anything that wasn't in the papers.
The Chiefs were then paraded past the Channel 7 cameras that were "tipped off" about the "secret meeting" the suburban Departments were called to. Since Channel 7 is in the bag for Chicago, you didn't have to be a Chief to figure out you had been used as a prop. Are we getting that desperate already? Way to piss off our suburban brothers with that transparent nonsense.
That's what the tiny dancer and mcstupid want.
McNaughton wont have his 20 years till september. He isn't going anywhere as much as he would like to tell Mcnutty to go Fuck himself.
wtf shooting in west beverly and new commander retires
Wait until compstat this week, the "tell" signs will be there if this is true. Mc-magician will not let these guys speak, in fear of another John B. incident
OH NO!
Two LESS gold stars?
How will we ever survive?
Gotta go with the previous posters...it is incredibly hard to muster any sympathy for an exempt. However they are treated cannot come even close to how badly the rank and file are treated every single day. Commander of the 8th district? Wow, how cruel.
Jimmy Maurer, Jack Kennedy, Rich Stevens, Brad Woods, et al will read about the changes from their villa in Acapulco as they raise a cold one to the sunny sky.
Retirement is great as they can proudly state!
McNaughton just wants out of 008. Everyone keeps getting him confused with Sgt. McMahon. Just this AM Richie Scott put his arm around him and started talking about the glory days before he realized it wasn't his old partner T Mac but the new commander.
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know if the burglary teams are working g8/nato?
1/31/2012 08:32:00 AM
I am not on a Burglary team but you know what? Why don't you ask them since you care so much. Quit posting this on the blog. I'm sorry you couldn't get a spot on the Burglary team but get over it.
It looks like McNaughtons Tact Lt is about to drop his papers. He said there is NO WAY he would work for an "egghead" like Mealer. He has even cleaned out most of his office already. The tipoff is that he still hasnt gone to G8 training and has no plans to go either.
The department moved these two members from good units to shitty units so they would retire. Maybe to save money? Just move exempts from good spots to shitty spots and PRESTO; they quit. Saving the city a ton of money.
Apparently Salemme is starting his clean sweep at Fugitive Apprehension. A few sgts dumped today. Funny those were fill's guys and if it weren't for fill, Salemme would be nobody.
McNaughton was an Aunt Bea guy?...who's your guy?
Boo fucking hoo. You are a commander making commander's pay and getting a commander's pension. So they move you, it is part of the job description. And you have a company car. That is what is wrong with this job, too many cry babies who think they are above what Police Officers have to do. Too many have lost touch with what we became the police for. Well then again many came on never having the intention of being the police. Oh just forget the whole thing. You dumbass Dickhead! This is no time to be the police. Too many officers have been fucked greatly by this lousy department. This department does not care about any working officer. I did not take this job to police anyone. And I never did a damn thing in my whole career. I took the job for the pay and benefits. I am not ashamed of that. so take your head out of your ass and lay low before you get fucked by IAD, IPRA and this lousy department.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic...
Fresh off the rumor mill, a good source says expect to see a whole bunch of people getting stripped for false reports / rule 14 violations. Allegations of padding numbers and falsifying parkers, curfews, truants...even contact cards. Inspectors found 'irregularities and inconsistencies' in how a beat car in very busy districts could write dozens of each during their tour. They are pulling gps to see if you were where you said you were and the "name check clear via PDT" on contact cards is gonna get people hung out to dry. I was wondering why a certain newly minted inspector has been in the station on all watches for weeks now. Remember kids, it's simple math- 20 contact cards @ (let's use for example) 5-6 minutes each to scribble out and name check = almost 2 hours of your day. Do you see the red flag this s!$t has raised???? ***DO NOT FALL VICTIM TO THE BOSSES NUMBERS GAME!!!! Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
1/31/2012 08:30:00 AM
I don't feel sorry or remorseful for any asshole police officer who is dumb enough to do such things. That is completely foolish; to make up stuff or falsify simple things like contact cards, traffic stop cards, curfews, etc... just to pad your numbers. All for what? Do you get a fucking bonus? Do you get to stay on the watch of your choice if you don't have seniority? Complete idiots.
Just a simple fact if you are 50 and have over 10 years on(which is what "vested" means), then you can check out of this roach motel with a check for the rest of your life,,,it won't be huge and you might actually have to work doing something you like, somewhere you like,with people you can actually stand without puking, rather than this thankless crap... Which is more than what you get if you frazzle yourself for these clout moron bosses, suck ass, then have a heart attack or a debilitating stroke and die or become a veg. But then again, some people are just born to suck ass. I was not. The fishing is great in Florida....
The dismantling of this department continues. No go out there and gettem boys and girls
Dump them to field lieutenant. Fuckin' babies. I don't feel sorry for any of the political hacks on this job.
Forget who is the commander, what about the speed cameras that are about to be installed!
WOW like I should feel sorry fot them. They are both retiring with the Gold Braid pension & will be making more on pension they most of us make working. So SCREW them both.
The dismantling of the CPD is Rahmmy's plan and BigMac is just following it!!!!!! He is a TOOL!
1/31/2012 08:20:00 AM
This started long long ago under RMD.
When you hire no one = no one pays into the pension.
Also, this is happening within the CFD as well.
Anyone (Mike Shields, FOP) want to share what happened at the last Pension Bd. meeting where Tracy Ladner was a "guest" speaker?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Does anyone know if the burglary teams are working g8/nato?
1/31/2012 08:32:00 AM
I am not on a Burglary team but you know what? Why don't you ask them since you care so much. Quit posting this on the blog. I'm sorry you couldn't get a spot on the Burglary team but get over it.
1/31/2012 04:35:00 PM
EVERYONE is working G/8 Nato in some way or another.
12 hour shifts for all.
Mcnaughton isn't going anywhere. First of all he has no time on the job and second of all he would be nothing on this job if he wasn't alderman Levars' neighborbor growing up in Our Lady of Victory parish on the noerthwest side. Then low and behold, he meets aunt Bea in 10 and he skyrockets. He was a dog ass beat cop in 014 and anyone who knew him back then would tell you the same. The drive isn't that far when the city is paying the gas bill.
Agreed. Horse shit copper. Didn't do much.
Don't know either guy but let me say from the bottom of my heart.... "fuck both of these crybaby gold stars!"
Nobody gave a rat's ass about the MSF guys that got displaced so why should we care about dudes with Golden Pensions.
Holy fuck! How long do we have to listen to these 4-6 year wonders moan about MSF? Newsflash! You were not elite! You were naive! You were stupid enough to trust Weis and the city! You were inexperienced and signed up for a (cough) "unit" most of us didn't want to go near. You got fucked, but it was a result of your poor decision making! You are correct that no one gives a rat's ass about MSF, though. Move on. The rest of us are tired of listening to you. Good luck removing the tattoo.
Who cares??? When is someone going to promote Ryan?
He is still busy cleaning up the mess in 19 made by a former female capt. What a cluster, lots of cryin' babies who don't want to do their jobs. This was truly the inmates running the asylum, head nut in charge.
Anonymous said...
Forget who is the commander, what about the speed cameras that are about to be installed!
1/31/2012 04:57:00 PM
Good point! Its all about the children! lol
Worked for Hargesheimer when he was a newly minted LT in Gangs North in the 80's...was promoted legit and a hard charger in his day, part of the McCotter crew..went to Youth where I worked for him as a YO...knows his stuff, especially about child porn, abuse, hotline cases. Worked closely with Postal Inspectors on big cases involving child porn and exploitation. A part of this job that most of you gel hair knuckleheads know nothing about...Very ugly and nasty stuff...I left youth partly because of that...Infants, babies, toddlers victims of horrendous shit....still bothers me 20 yrs later. so all you haters on Youth Div, or as they're called now SVU, a big royal GFU...more to this job than a dime bag or a gun pinch. Just shows you the assholes don't care about anything..Go for it Bob, you earned it.
I am not an exempt but I am going to the Pension Board tomorrow. 1.5 years ahead of schedule. fuck this place, I am done.
bullshit on the contact card rumor, c'mon who the fuck would have the time to bother with that bullshit
So what if there are inspectors looking at our contact cards?? I work in a busy district. I contact card virtually everyone I come into contact with. Yes, I come in with 10 some days but some days it's slow and I come in with none. Be legit, play by the rules, and you won't get jammed up. You have a radio, at the very least. So what if the dispatcher doesn't run the name and comes back with 'no record..' it's on tape that you ran the name on the air and you are covered, rule 14 wise anyway.
Also, it does not take 2 hours to enter 20 of them. Not even close.
Oh yeah...and my 2 tour Nam buddy of 40 yrs tells me I'm more PTSD'd than most of his support group...nothin to brag on...just glad I made it out to collect a pension...HERE THAT CIVIC FEDERATION/MEDIA? You WILL be fuckin with the wrong people.
I call bullshit. There is something though that I think should be addressed by the department, why aren't we getting taught any type of first aid for this G8 thing? I could care less about a protestor but what about one of our own? My first aid dates back to the early 90's in the Marines. A refresher would be nice.
1/31/2012 03:08:00 PM
Promise to send Sgt LB to Antarctica and the job is yours. Want it in writing first.
Maybe this will mean that Sodini will rise again!
Stay off the blog Waynebo.
Dont know CMDR 22 personally, but 39 years on, if he wants to leave it should be on his terms not theirs.
McNaughton is to young to go anywhere. Supt made a point of saying he wants guys who were in nice spots to deal with shit spots and vice versa.
He also said he wants the best guy in the district regardless of race, guess that explains Leo.
1/31/2012 12:09:00 PM
Not sure how much that is true about the moves because McNaughton was already a commander of a district and he got sent to another district. Roy was already commander of a unit and he got sent to another unit. Doesn't look like there is really any rhyme or reason. Maybe just a fake reason to move people around.
How embarrassing is it going to be across the nation when the Cub/Sox Crosstown Classic has to be cancelled when the "Occupy Retards" figure out it will give them maximum television exposure. It's seriously bad timing!
Probably not true but there are numerous Commanders poised to go before 15 May.
OT--
Home prices in Chicago area drop in November
BY FRANCINE KNOWLES Business Reporter fknowles@suntimes.com January 31, 2012 10:26AM
"Home prices in the Chicago metropolitan area fell 3.4 percent in November from October and are down 5.9 percent from November 2010, according to the latest Standard & Poor’s/Case-Shiller Home Price index.
"Nationally, the 10-city and 20-city indexes both fell 1.3 percent from October. The Chicago area posted the biggest month-over-month decline and was among 19 of the 20 cities in the index to post price drops.
"Prices have fallen in the Chicago area for three straight months, following four months of increases, and are at levels last seen in May 2001.
"The 10-city composite was down 3.6 percent year-over-year, and the 20-city composite dropped 3.7 percent from November 2010. The declines were worse than the annual declines reported for October.
“Despite continued low interest rates and better real GDP growth in the fourth quarter, home prices continue to fall,” David Blitzer, chairman of the Index Committee at S&P Indices, said in a statement. “The trend is down and there are few, if any, signs in the numbers that a turning point is close at hand.”
http://www.suntimes.com/business/10343861-420/home-prices-in-chicago-area-drop-in-november.html
Dave McNaughton is an example of what is "right" with this Dept. When people like Dave leave,it is a victory for what is "wrong" with the Dept. For those of you don't know him he is a smart,straight laced,kind,family man of faith. Everything that the Obama,Emanuel template despise. I hope this is just a rumor.
Who really gives a fuck about two guys that have been taken care of their whole careers? Neither of them are very good bosses by the way!
Just a simple fact if you are 50 and have over 10 years on(which is what "vested" means), then you can check out of this roach motel with a check for the rest of your life,,,it won't be huge and you might actually have to work doing something you like, somewhere you like,with people you can actually stand without puking, rather than this thankless crap... Which is more than what you get if you frazzle yourself for these clout moron bosses, suck ass, then have a heart attack or a debilitating stroke and die or become a veg. But then again, some people are just born to suck ass. I was not. The fishing is great in Florida....
1/31/2012 04:51:00 PM
Your wrong! your vested after 20 years unless you are being forced off because you turned 63. If and only if you are forced off at 63 than you are considered vested after 10 years.
Anonymous said...
Kevin Chambers' name has been surfacing a lot lately at HQ to take the next step and command the 008th District. He has paid his dues and his time has finally arrived. Being able to speak fluent Polish should seal the deal with the constituents along Archet Avenue!
1/31/2012 09:45:00 AM
Kevin, stop it!
Jimmy Maurer, Jack Kennedy, Rich Stevens, Brad Woods, et al will read about the changes from their villa in Acapulco as they raise a cold one to the sunny sky.
Retirement is great as they can proudly state!
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Let us not forget their cabin boy servant, Ed O Donnell.
Mcnaughton was in roll call today. He didn't retire
Ron Sodini will get 016... Mark my words. Done Deal
I heard the one and only JF from tact taking over as 008 Dist Commander. He is being promoted to do his savy choice of fashion for funerals. He wants all tact and incident guys and gals using hair gel and wearing tight skinny jeans with nice white gym shoes.
I am just a lowly blue shirt! So to the bosses i\we do not matter. today after roll call listened to 2 big bosses talking to each other about g8 and they both say "time to hit the medical because of summit" Wow that really instills confidence in this 26 year veteran PO. hey boss let me tell you this or any other cowards if you are planning to not help out a fellow officer please i beg you turn in your badge today. No I am not a rambo or hero but if called to help my fellow officer I am there. None of us are in favor of g8 but it is a done deal!
Don't expect too much help for G8..City still won't indemnify suburban departments. Also, no gas will be used. Building ventilation systems intakes too close to the ground. Feds will be in charge of the actual protest areas, and will call the shots, CPD will call the shots in the surrounding areas (Grant park, etc...)
Funny those were fill's guys and if it weren't for fill,
What!!!!!!!!!
If 016 gets Sodini then good for 016 and sad for us in 017. Both Ron & Jeff are absolute GEMS to work for. The watch runs like a fine tuned watch. And everybody comes in with a little something to keep the Lt's happy.
Gee what a concept, treat your subordinates nice and they do work?
OT Rahm on Homicides.
Did Ralm just brag about that there was no homicides in the last five days when confronted with the overall increase in homicides for Jan.?
Well guess what?
Body in car found at West Beverly fire scene
Updated 5:20 p.m.
A man's body with a gunshot wound was discovered this morning inside a vehicle following a house fire in the city's West Beverly neighborhood on the South Side.
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Body discovered in Lawndale trash container
Updated 3:56 p.m.
One person was found dead in a trash container this afternoon following a report of a suspicious object on the West Side.
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Bodies are popping up everywhere. Some people never learn.
Kevin Chambers' name has been surfacing a lot lately at HQ to take the next step and command the 008th District. He has
paid his dues and his time has finally arrived. Being able to speak fluent Polish should seal the deal with the constituents along Archet Avenue!
1/31/2012 09:45:00 AM
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He went to the FBI school with the old 007 Cmdr. KC, and won some major award there. I heard he basically got the CPD contingent through the tests.
Clout but also not a dope.
i just got off the phone with Rahm's mom, she told me they didn't play well with her ilttle rahm-rahm so she sent them home to their mommies.
WE are hearing Jim Lavoy is getting 22
OT --
City is broke -- any more about those fire ambulance cutbacks reported here? -- but Channel 7 just showed that Navy Pier is going to be completely rebuilt AGAIN!
Accepting different designs, crazy drawings with giant glaciers out in the lake that squirt water, all kinds of weird stuff.
Probably winning contract will go to Vanecko Construction...
>>>Anonymous said...
Captain's Association President Hoot B. will be on the phone...
1/31/2012 03:26:00 PM<<<
He already got his 30 pieces of silver.
OT continued--
WBBM Radio just said Navy Pier job will cost at least 85 MILLION DOLLARS.
No comment.
Anyone else hear that 4 or 5 Tact Lieutenants have said they have had enough of the filling in on all three watchs and have asked to be put on watches?
Little late for that .... they filled out their watch bid last year and they're stuck working at the departments discretion until 2013.
Kevin Chambers' name has been surfacing a lot lately at HQ to take the next step and command the 008th District. He has paid his dues and his time has finally arrived. Being able to speak fluent Polish should seal the deal with the constituents along Archet Avenue!
I've been around here a long time, 26 years in patrol, in 8 different districts ...... who the f%$k is Kevin Chambers??? Paid his dues? Where?? I've never seen hide nor hair of this guy. WHere did he pay these dues, at the Irish "Cultural" Center or at the ward office?
FUK THE COWARDS like we want the likes of Meahler at G8?
Do nothing and let the city burn Fuk the bosses they will get blamed and we will not get fired Give Rahm waht he wants a good crisis to axe some bosses and show good citizen his stupidity in bringing this fiasco to Chocago. the olympics looks like paradise LoL
To the P.O.? who said that you cannot be vested after ten years of service. You are absolutely 100% wrong. You are eligible and will receive a pittance {don't remember at what age you can begin to receive it} but yes, you are vested. It's amazing how much misinformation gets posted here by those who don't do their homework. Retired guy. Keep safe.
Waaaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaa
Company car, city gas. same big check.. I don't want to leave 16... Waaaaaaa Waaaaaaaaaaaaaa
(OT) No special prosecutor fro Vaneko naw just a dream that a young innocent man was KILLED/MURDERED! alvarez and her crew don't want this machine kid found GUILTY! If it was a noclout copper they would of hung him/her!
Can't the feds do a civil rights investigation? Hey vaneko where is the 60
MILLION you stole from our pension fund? What board reps aloud this brazen theft?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-prosecutors-oppose-special-prosecutor-in-case-involving-daley-nephew-20120131,0,6178772.story
Kill the GOLD BRAID scam.
O/T
Fiscally and financially speaking, Illinois is the second worst run state in America.
Yet the brain-dead electorate keep electing these corrupt cocksuckers.
Two suits in the district today (011, 2/w) having front office civilan ticket clerk pull copies of parkers while some computer geek with them pulled every contact card for what looked like months from the automated CC screen.
The Witch Hunt seems to be in full effect. Be smart everyone.
g8/nato wil fuck this city for ever.
No planning, Too many bosses stepping on each other, nobody willing to make the big decisions. Just wait for a fly by the pants routine to ensue. set up your personal emergency kits for when your sent down with nothing.
ON GOOD AUTHORITY.
(OT) My brother is a TSA supervisor (I know many don't like TSA) but he is noticing a trend some airlines like Southwest are offering great fares from California to Chicago in the month of May,like $200.00 with taxes round trip,then he looked at ages of flyers for a homeland security analysis and surprise many of the passengers do not have same last name as would for vacationers to this city (Like in families), many younger people coming here! OK call me crazy but maybe just maybe the airports should be also beefed up!
Why? My brother and I both agree that the energy that these possible occupiers will have both coming into this city,and especially going back home when they are feeling defeated could bring up an interesting set of circumstances at both airports. Think a bunch of pissed off wanna be hippies mad because Chicago was ready and willing to defend the homeland!
OK boss we will volunteer for this opportunity!
Just a simple fact if you are 50 and have over 10 years on(which is what "vested" means), then you can check out of this roach motel with a check for the rest of your life,,,it won't be huge and you might actually have to work doing something you like, somewhere you like,with people you can actually stand without puking, rather than this thankless crap... Which is more than what you get if you frazzle yourself for these clout moron bosses, suck ass, then have a heart attack or a debilitating stroke and die or become a veg. But then again, some people are just born to suck ass. I was not. The fishing is great in Florida....
1/31/2012 04:51:00 PM
Your wrong! your vested after 20 years unless you are being forced off because you turned 63. If and only if you are forced off at 63 than you are considered vested after 10 years.
1/31/2012 08:32:00 PM
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No, you're wrong. You are vested after ten years. You can't draw a pension, but you're vested.
Being able to pension out is a different story from being vested. Maybe it's time to actually read those documents that get passed around and circle-filed every year.
I am not an exempt but I am going to the Pension Board tomorrow. 1.5 years ahead of schedule. fuck this place, I am done.
1/31/2012 06:54:00 PM
I went a year early and haven't regretted it once. It's still stressful to hear about what my friends have to deal with on the job, but at least I'm out of the mix.
What a relief to escape the power politics, the petty b.s. and the constant 'improvements' to the department.
And, what a new conceept, to be able to sleep on my schedule, instead of the Dept's. It's great.
Judge rules against cops in Occupy Oakland case January 31, 2012
This asshole was appointed to the Federal Bench by Jimmy Carter. He makes decisions based on race.The guy is a police-hater.
In a landmark 1995 civil rights case, Madrid v. Gomez, Henderson found the use of force and level of medical care at the notorious Pelican Bay State Prison unconstitutional. During its subsequent federal oversight process, Henderson was known to visit the prison personally.
In a 1997 decision, he struck down Proposition 209, the anti-affirmative action California initiative, as unconstitutional. He was criticized by many supporters of Proposition 209, and the next year a three-judge Court of Appeals panel overturned his decision.
In 1982 Henderson overturned the conviction of Johnny Spain, the only member of The San Quentin Six convicted of murder for the deaths of three California Correctional Peace Officers and two inmates in a riot and escape attempt led by Black Panther Party member and Black Guerilla Family founder George Jackson.
Fuck this guy, double fuck Jimmy Carter, & triple all DemocRATS.
I would imagine Walsh will be about ready to do the same soon, if not sooner! Being cmdr of an Area is a whole different game than taking over an Area 2 district...and she knows she's not going any higher.
She's been an exempt for quite a few years now, she has the time and the age, she won't get another dime
extra out of the pension, and the stress of taking over
a district after so much time in an area has been known to shorten many a lifespan (Kup).
How the hell can they mess with you over parkers? If you write them and the time coincides with where you were at, then it's your word against the citizen with the automobile's word. Aren't we supposed to have credibility?? Jeez, this is getting re-goddam-diculous. May as well sit back and do NOTHING!
Someone answer this question the humpers that we do everyday r they illegal to do per the contract. I thought they were taken away years ago. And r those official police documents. Can you imagine be stripped fOr saying you got. 2 Parker's on Wednesday but really u only got one. Moral is at an all time low. The minute cops get stripped for this wait till u c depolicing
Hargeshiemer was a softball who commanded women, er, school marm's, his entire Youth Division career. He was a absolute doofus as a young cadet in 020 forty years ago, and was a doofus in 079.
12:01 & 5:48 you are totally off-base spreading your lies about mcnaughton being a dog ass cop back in 014. Nothing could be farther from the truth!
He was an A+ officer if there ever was one.
Hey dont know this Mc Naughton guy but he gets on 294 S at 0900 gets off at 55 N to Central goes south to 55th street has breakfast with the troops at Sammys and is at the station by 1030. Couple of meetings usual B.S. leaves at 1600 drives to the west end of 008 and home by 1730 reverse commute.Portal to Portal 9.5 hours not bad. If he a good as guy as everyone says the coppers in 008 will work for him.
Anonymous said...
Ron Sodini will get 016... Mark my words. Done Deal
1/31/2012 08:58:00 PM
I thought he was still stuck in the cement!
McCarthy wants the commanders from slower Districts to move to faster Districts like he did in NY. Can't say I agree with that.
These Commanders have either come from that hood or spent their lives in the Unit. That's a lot of experience to make up for by their replacements, and a lot they won't have in their new spots.
Wow! A commander, one who has a car and gas paid for , $140 grand a year and a pension of over 100 grand a year and might be a little upset because he might have to drive 20 miles to get to work! Now, here is a person who is really out of touch with reality and what the common man has to do for a job. I retired from the job and went to work in private industry. It is very common for people to drive 30-40 miles or more to find a job that will support their family. I have seen people take public transportation across the city for a $10 dollar an hour job! It is tough out here for many working people. If these overpaid, clout heavy cry babies want to quit over this issue, then let them and do not let the door hit you in the ass.
Some of us in the over 50 and 20+ years on the job club may still have to be here for some reason or another. It could be a sick spouse or kids and the insurance can't be changed. It could be a kid in college or high school still. It could be that the economy sucks still and (even though we still get a pension) it will be very hard to find a job that will still be needed.
So quit ripping the old timers, there are thousands of stories out there.
Why all the hate, grow up. It's already been said its not true. Mc Naughton is a good guy. Real gentlemen and approachable. Don't speak if you dont know
I've been around here a long time, 26 years in patrol, in 8 different districts ...... who the f%$k is Kevin Chambers??? Paid his dues? Where?? I've never seen hide nor hair of this guy. WHere did he pay these dues, at the Irish "Cultural" Center or at the ward office?
1/31/2012 10:45:00 PM
he was in charge of acosta's clown makeup kit.
Being able to pension out is a different story from being vested. Maybe it's time to actually read those documents that get passed around and circle-filed every year.
No you are wrong. No where in the contract is the word vested even mentioned when it comes to retirement. Vested means:
vest·ed
[ves-tid] Show IPA
adjective
1.
held completely, permanently, and inalienably: vested rights.
2.
protected or established by law, commitment, tradition, ownership, etc.: vested contributions to a fund.
So, per our contract, you are "vested" in the pension, at 50 years of age with 20 years of service. If you retire before this time you get out of the pension exactly what you contributed and not penny more. Therefore, you are not vested at 10 years, asshat.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) My brother is a TSA supervisor (I know many don't like TSA) but he is noticing a trend some airlines like Southwest are offering great fares from California to Chicago in the month of May,like $200.00 with taxes round trip,then he looked at ages of flyers for a homeland security analysis and surprise many of the passengers do not have same last name as would for vacationers to this city (Like in families), many younger people coming here! OK call me crazy but maybe just maybe the airports should be also beefed up!
Why? My brother and I both agree that the energy that these possible occupiers will have both coming into this city,and especially going back home when they are feeling defeated could bring up an interesting set of circumstances at both airports. Think a bunch of pissed off wanna be hippies mad because Chicago was ready and willing to defend the homeland!
OK boss we will volunteer for this opportunity!
1/31/2012 11:26:00 PM
Your correct, ut even bigger I work at a restaurant at O'Hare as a manager and we were called to a meeting and told what kind of problems these people have caused at airports in the past and will cause here! Not going to reveal all the things said on a public blog suffice to say please Mr. McCarthy make sure airports are fully staffed and extra officers ready to go!
The airport system brings in many visitors and business people and must be kept in an orderly fashion! Surely the mayor will be involved in airport security issues!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Kevin Chambers' name has been surfacing a lot lately at HQ to take the next step and command the 008th District. He has paid his dues and his time has finally arrived. Being able to speak fluent Polish should seal the deal with the constituents along Archet Avenue!
I've been around here a long time, 26 years in patrol, in 8 different districts ...... who the f%$k is Kevin Chambers??? Paid his dues? Where?? I've never seen hide nor hair of this guy. WHere did he pay these dues, at the Irish "Cultural" Center or at the ward office?
1/31/2012 10:45:00 PM
he paid his dues at the gym, been there lately?
11:12 pm
There are two vanecko nephews-not one!! So much for your ability to critically read a newspaper article!
To the guy trying to lay the blame on other bosses.
This mess is all Debbie Kirby, if it turns out good, she should get the credit.
If it turns out she screwed up, she should take the TOTAL blame, don''t try an smear others who have not been given a chance for any input.
Also, I have been told the mayors people are also most uncooperative to the burbs and others.
To the two dopes that say you can not get a pension after you have more than ten on. You company suckups are wrong and i am living and very happy proof. Pays caddy note .bait and gas.The city graciously paid for my masters and i got a job i actually like in a place that dont fuck me on taxes all day.Keep drinking the kool aide.
Hargeshiemer was a softball who commanded women, er, school marm's, his entire Youth Division career. He was a absolute doofus as a young cadet in 020 forty years ago, and was a doofus in 01:30:00 AM
No, you're the doofus. Obviously you never worked for him because you would know how supportive he was to the detectives and officers who worked for him. How he knew the details of everyones life who worked for him including all about their kids, spouses, illnesses etc. How he did everything in support of those who worked for him. You would understand how loyal he was to those under his command because they made him look good. You would know how much he was involved in youth related organizations and how much youth related legislation he was involved in. So, just stop because clearly you know nothing.
McNaughton was always a good guy, but I never worked for him when he shot up in rank. He can't have a whole lot of time on though? Maybe just over 20 years?
Problem is if they dig deep enough they'll find suckholes to sell their soles and climb aboard.
1/31/2012 09:15:00 AM
We can sell back our gym shoes? Where do I sign up?
You knew that. They have never had to work a real day in their life while an Exempt and now you get to the end of their career and you want them to work for a check? Please! Try moving O'Grady, Roti, Welch, Moy, Lodding, C. Andrews, or Kennedy to a real working District/Unit. They will be running for the hills too!
I was hoping Captain O'Donnell would get 005, but during the time he was the Actor, he totally killed morale! He turned out to be a real asshole. He undid everything our previous Commander did, just to do it, it made no sense. He listend to dumb as Lt. Panek and others who did not give a shit about the fact we work in a shit district, work our ass off and don't deserve to be fucked with. Anything is better than that pompus asshole, tooting his own horn while talking shit about all the bosses who put him there!
I'm leaving 3yrs short of max. gonna take what I can get.I'll make it work one way or another.
Someone answer this question the humpers that we do everyday r they illegal to do per the contract. I thought they were taken away years ago. And r those official police documents. Can you imagine be stripped fOr saying you got. 2 Parker's on Wednesday but really u only got one. Moral is at an all time low. The minute cops get stripped for this wait till u c depolicing
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well, instead of making up your activity why dont you just do it! Are you that lazy that you cant write 5 parkers a tour? Even a dog ass should write 5 parkers and at least one mover each tour.. throw in a cta check and your a god to your sgt. But no, dogs have to be dogs and do absolutely nothing the entire tour. This is what is so bad about unions. They enable people to be lazy dog asses. In my opinion, if you dont do shit you should get paid shit. but hey, what do I know.. 4 more years and im outta here.. retirement in florida here I come. Way too many complainers on this job now a days.
And, what a new conceept, to be able to sleep on my schedule, instead of the Dept's. It's great.
1/31/2012 11:49:00 PM
Went longer than should have, but left immediately after maxing out. Do not understand the people, almost 100% men, that hang around after they are maxed out. It just does not make sense, unless the job defines their life.
Hey dont know this Mc Naughton guy but he gets on 294 S at 0900 gets off at 55 N to Central goes south to 55th street has breakfast with the troops at Sammys and is at the station by 1030. Couple of meetings usual B.S. leaves at 1600 drives to the west end of 008 and home by 1730 reverse commute.Portal to Portal 9.5 hours not bad. If he a good as guy as everyone says the coppers in 008 will work for him.
2/01/2012 01:50:00 AM
Wow the man's been in 008 about a week and you have his whole routine down path. Are you stalking him?
Heres the dope on the pension. You are vested after 10 years, but cannot receive a pension without 20 years when you retire. If you have less than 20 years you receive a "Money Purchase Annuity" and it pays alot less.
Currently the difference between reiring after completing 20 years versus 19 years and 11 months is $2,000 per month $3,500 verus $1,500 payable for life Make sure you complete 20 years less any bad time
Don't pay any attention to the other posters, this is not me talking, but right out of the Pension Advisor that was mailed to all the po's in the last few days by the pension board Just look on page 2
Dave is leaving? Doubtful, he just made his 20 but isnt 50years old. Still has schoolage children if I stand correct?
Someone answer this question the humpers that we do everyday r they illegal to do per the contract. I thought they were taken away years ago. And r those official police documents. Can you imagine be stripped fOr saying you got. 2 Parker's on Wednesday but really u only got one. Moral is at an all time low. The minute cops get stripped for this wait till u c depolicing
2/01/2012 01:22:00 AM
No, those aren't official documents. Like the ones from 012 that R.S. started and they never stopped them since he left. I'm not sure which other districts do them along with 012 but they would all have to look the same if they were official and they probably don't. Each district makes up their own version. The faster districts don't use these, only the slower ones I've heard. Basically all your doing is upstairs job or making it easier for them. They are not accurate at all. That's why if you don't hand them in they can't say anything to you, but that would mean the guys in 012 would have to find their balls.
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