Wednesday, July 04, 2012

Educating the Ignorant

Once again, we must comment on having some of the smartest readers in the world.

But that being said, some of the dumbest motherfuckers ever seem to stumble in, trip over the furniture, spill the whiskey, soil the carpet and leave us with an unholy mess to clean up. We're talking of course, about the liberal-minded, willfully blind, excuse all forms of ignorant behavior, pilgrim haters.

We posted a picture of 7-year-old Heaven making hand signs with her fingers. We did not post one word blaming her, accusing her or lambasting her. We merely pointed out the propensity for people to have pictures of their children making questionable gestures. We ended up letting a few of the tamer defenses of Heaven go through, but quite a few ended up calling us names, accusing us of harassing the dead and the old tired saw of "racist!"

To you we say, "Fuck off."

If you "fly-off-the-handle" types did any research whatsoever, you are aware that a "peace" sign is done with the palm facing outward and two fingers extended. Reversing the palm inward is an insult, not unlike the "05" jerseys sported in the 'hood. Reverse is an insult if you remember any sort of basic gang/graffiti shorthand.

To those who said it was a "chuck a deuce" sign, nice try. That is a sideways peace sign with the knuckles showing outward and may be moved in an up-and-down waving motion. Unfortunately, Heaven's fingers are not knuckles outward - they are splayed on her right hand and her left hand is showing three fingers. As a side note, we have never seen a two-handed "chuck a deuce" sign, and neither have you.

Knowing the history of some of the persons present at the candy stand, the neighborhood and that corner, there is no question that this is a gang sign.

That being said, no one here has accused Heaven of being a gang banger. She was seven for chrissake. But unfortunately for her, she lived in a shithole, was surrounded by shitheads, and had pretty much zero family structure to guide her. What she is showing in the picture is something she probably saw every day of her short life. And someone with a camera thought it was cute when she represented, so they snapped a pic that will live forever as a mute symbol of a life failing against near impossible odds.

So to those unable to read the written word and to those seemingly able to divine our innermost thoughts from a fucking blog entry, you are morons.

To the sanctimonious asshats accusing us a racism, there's nothing racist about pointing out what a fucked up situation Heaven lived and died in. Maybe you ought to direct your outrage at a community that values life so little, they overlook the sensible bedtimes, the need for structure and maybe, just maybe, setting a good example for your kids.

That isn't a race thing - it's a parent thing. And it isn't getting done.

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118 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

well said scc, well said

7/04/2012 12:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://keepyourchildoutofjail.com/Gang_Signs.html

Same hand gesture as heaven
Four corner hustler. Mom has four corner hustler tattoo

7/04/2012 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen brother.

7/04/2012 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said SCC. But if all else fails pull the RACE card.

7/04/2012 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone accusing your critique of this as being racist is just helping the problem persist. Where is the outrage with the black community for allowing her to live in such a fucked up culture. No money, no Government no blame of the pilgrim will fix it. Only the direct members of her family and community and sub culture I.E. self proclaimed african american culture

7/04/2012 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You could not have said it more elequently.

7/04/2012 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Way to tell it. Exactly. How the hell anyone made that out to be racist is FUBAR.

--No Cop Here

7/04/2012 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pilgrim racist. Ha!

7/04/2012 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said. A detective who is sick of violence and the inability of leaders to hold accountable those committing these acts.

7/04/2012 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a cop. I saw that poor little girl's picture on the news, can't remember what channel,and told my wife that kid is representing! I was disgusted that anyone would raise a child that way. And for those who might say SCC is racist, to you I say Fuck You! I'd like to post a picture of that particular hand sign, but I do not know how to do so. SCC tells the truth!

7/04/2012 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well fucking said

7/04/2012 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said, SCC.

7/04/2012 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous xcop7903 said...

Profound thoughts, seldom expressed so eloquently.

7/04/2012 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said SCC.

7/04/2012 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous JAFO said...

I agree- too many people calling everyone racist - instead of seeing the problem.

Let's stop denying the reality.

Start bringing up kids better. First cut off incentives to crank out kids for checks.

Stop rewarding bad behavior.

Yeah - now call me a racist.

Not a LEO, JAFO

7/04/2012 01:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical rif raff attitude.. everyone is "racist"

Excuses.. excuses...

Wait until Mitt Romney becomes president and makes serious cuts to welfare programs and actually makes you look for a job...

That will be considered racist too.

7/04/2012 01:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen! Well said.

7/04/2012 01:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very well said, bravo. And that's coming from a guy who worked the case.......

7/04/2012 02:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go to any of the south side beaches on a warm night and you will see "parents" with their children in the water at 2230 hours or just showing up to barbeque when the park is closing. Or during the day the "parents" are sitting on the beach wall or in the parking lot while their small children are down in the water being babysat by the lifeguards on the beach and in the row boats. It's so sad to know people who truly want and deserve children and can't because of physical issues, who spend thousands of dollars in treatments and procedures, and then see people who spit kids out like nothing and take for granted the precious gift they have been given. Small children emulate their parents behavior whether it be good or bad. Where do you think these little kids learn to respect no one and talk like they are grown adults? Remember, for those with children, the look on your childs face every Christmas morning when there were presents under the tree that weren't there the night before? Remember what is was like when you learned the truth about Santa or when your own child stopped believing? When the magic of childhood started fading away? When childhood wonder was replaced by a harsh world reality? Childhood innocence is a lost concept in these communites only to be replaced by children who are forced to grow up before they even have two numbers in their age. Sorry. Rant off.

--Southside Blueshirt

7/04/2012 02:38:00 AM  
Anonymous CFD Medic said...

Fact. Best post of the year. I've never been prouder to be a SCC reader. If only all the big 'legitimate news' sites would post explanations of this type when an editorial response to an article was requested by the public. All they seem to do these days is shutter the comments and re-edit the story on the fly to the editor's delight. Professional journalists used to have to issue things called "correction notices" when they fucked up. It was published in public and in ink, in the very paper they wrote the original article in. A real mark of shame for bad journalists, and it stuck. But now it's all just a cut, copy and paste and no record of the original exists. If all journalism was held to the standard that SCC displayed here, this nation would spiral down into a horseshit shortage real quick, I think.

7/04/2012 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have read this blog spot for a few years now, love the debates that go on. This post here is dead on. Environment makes a big difference for kids. I grew up in the projects but we moved out, had a mother and father in our lives. Back then, the projects were a temporary solution. We had to have our asses in the house before the street lights came on, no fucking around. Grades had to be good or we got a surprise visit. Our teachers had paddles and were authorized to use them. Things were different. Now you cannot even raise your voice at your kids and your kids and you get arrested. But what you can do is spend time with them, library, park district, just reading. Turn off the damn cable, if you young kids, spend time. That is a lost art now. Many of these single mothers are on the hunt for the next baby daddy. It is a sickening cycle. Generations are lost and the public is caught in the middle. I have spoken to many of my nephews friends, they enjoy coming downtown shoplifting, being a menace. For whatever reason it is a joke to them. A friend of mine, his 14 year old cousin, maybe he was 15 was shot and killed by a off duty cop he tried to rob last year. Served his ass right. He was a beast but his family treated him like a baby. My point is, many black and hispanic families are not raising their kids. I do not feel sorry for them because my mother sacrificed and raised us better than these savages now. Keep up the good work SCC. Not a cop but my dad is a retired paramedic.

7/04/2012 03:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, ya nailed it!!!!!!

7/04/2012 04:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said, pilgrim.

7/04/2012 04:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't know scc I'm a cop worked every since I've been 15 , I flashed a peace sign a lot of times never once thought about I have to turn my palms outward, could it be a gang sign sure could it also be a 7 year old flashing a dam piece sign also. So I'm gonna have to disagree to disagree but I'll difinately relay the message to my children

7/04/2012 04:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Should be read to JJ and Phaker word for word slowly without interruption and then they should be questioned on each and every point of this well thought out and profound little piece of the truth as to their solutions, Thank You

7/04/2012 04:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can go back at least seven years for two handed deuces, call it a generational thing but it was not uncommon in college. Everybody isn't pulling the race card but sometimes the crap people say on here is offensive to other people you probably like and work with in the district. I came from a good two parent home, grew up in Englewood, couldn't piss without asking permission let alone hang out in the neighborhood. My block was CVLs and some Stones but where I learned about gangs was Lutheran School. My parents refused to let us go to public school in Englewood so we commuted to a private school in a nearby but much better area and that's where I learned about gangs first. In first grade one of my classmates started talking to me about the BDs and VLs and whatever else. I just say this to say there are too many "I've seen it all" generalists on here and sometimes its evident that while guys might work the ghetto you can still tell, much like foreign languages,they have an "outside accent" in terms of how they view things. While there aren't pictures of me throwing up the forks in grammar school, there may be some from my freshman year of college, and there were definitely pics of me standing in front of Latin King graffiti at a cut party they threw in hs. I'm definitely not defending Ms. Banks in this matter. I just know if someone on here sees those pics, they'll be dead wrong on my demographics.

Signed Former Wannabee That Grew Up

7/04/2012 04:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The blame rests with her parents... oops, I mean her gang-bangin' tattooed mother for allowing such a picture. Hope it goes viral.

7/04/2012 05:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way you put it is so so true . The only one to blame is the fat POS mother that probably took the pic thinking it was so cute that her daughter was able to represent for the camera . Heaven may be in Heaven but she has a mother that should burn in "HELL" . To the race baiters I say Fuck Off assholes .

7/04/2012 05:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Which is more racist: pointing out the horrible behavior that led to this 7 year old's death, or ignoring it?

7/04/2012 05:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

amazing how in the black and hispanic communites that parents and family members take photos of children throwing gang signs because they think is it cute or whatever.
And it is acceptable.
Acdeptable because when something bad happens those are the photos that the family provides to the media.

Yet -
in white communities you will not see photos of children like this.
I looked.
I cannot find one photo in my home with my children or any of thier friends showing ANY kind of hand signs (even peace signs!)

But, someone wants to call out the person noting those hand signs as being racist?

How about we start by turning this around and blaming the family and that f - ed up community for allowing them to raise children like this. And they can't figure out why this is happening in their communities?

They should all be made to attend parenting classes.

Un - f-ing real.

7/04/2012 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The good thing is the cry of "racist" has been heard so often and so falsely so many times that it is losing it's meaning. It is getting like the little boy who cried wolf just too many times. No one is paying attention any more. Finally. Thank God!

7/04/2012 05:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Indolent pleasures pacify them. Any inherant work ethic is absent from their behavior. Expect nothing more.

7/04/2012 06:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course they have to use the race card, otherwise they would have to look in the mirror and see the real truth looking back at them.

7/04/2012 06:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen, SCC.

7/04/2012 06:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reverse peace symbol also means v for victory. you can see it at sports events and many returning World War Two soldiers used to pose for pics using the v-sign. Too bad now that has been bastardized by the street thugs.

7/04/2012 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said SCC. Maybe the media that curtials to the politians and the liberal left should put this into their newspaper. It might even save a life or two.

7/04/2012 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If it was a backwards peace sign, then please answer one question. Why is the middle finger extended outward and why wasnt the thumb over the third finger?

7/04/2012 07:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And now you have another 10 yo shot. Mom is 24. At this rate you can be a gramma by the age of 30.

7/04/2012 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

have to agree people have to watch what their kids are doing .. I have two teenage grandsons.. neither in gangs.. Their father rides herd on them.. however.. they claim that many of the hand signs are NOT what people think they are.. they claim they are innocent.. as well they MIGHT be when they start out until a GANG decides to use them as their GANG SIGN.. therefore.. KEEP HANDS AT YOUR SIDES.. shake hands.. wave hello with all fingers CLOSED.. which will work until some damn gang decides to incorporate those signals into their gang slogan.. Luckily my son has a friend who was in the CPD and he lets him know when things change..MAYBE a website with the current gang signals is what is needed to educate the parents on what to watch for..Parents need all the HELP they can get right now.. and that would be all Parents in ALL area's.. not just in BLACK or HISPANIC area's.. neighborhoods in ALL area's are to diverse now.. we all need to be aware..

7/04/2012 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Said love your new attitude !!!

7/04/2012 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On another note. Just got my tax bill and see that about 1500 is for the schools, which I have NO children in.
Well I would like to know the student(s) Im responsible for and see to it that they get reading writing and arithmetic. Not just bullshit classes. They WILL understand the King's English and SPEAK too. Not Ebonics

7/04/2012 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous 013th District Copper said...

Fantastic post. Very proud of you SCC

7/04/2012 07:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said SCC ! Some need to grow up and see the facts. You didn't create a story, just reported it. Thanks !

7/04/2012 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Totally agree with you. People see what they want to see, not the truth. Didn't outraged mama have a gang tattoo on her leg somewhere?

Heaven should have been playing with crayons or jacks, not flashing some bullshit signs. Maybe showing 7 fingers for her age. Most likely some idiot sibling taught her how to represent.

Good for you for letting the idiot commenters having it with both barrels. Pun intended.

Have a great holiday.

7/04/2012 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

really, what did you expect by posting that picture and opening it to comments? the whole thing was pretty unnecessary. regardless of the circumstances, dead kids should get a pass on our judgments, both positive and negative, informed or ignorant.

7/04/2012 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said. This however, will never make the media/cpd point a finger at the parents and their obscene lack of parenting. Seems they just want babies for the welfare chek. Cut the welfare in this state and you will see a drop in procreation.

7/04/2012 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait until Mitt Romney becomes president and makes serious cuts to welfare programs and actually makes you look for a job...

Its a great idea but are there any jobs out there.....

I wondered about this story fron the begining. 10:30PM "candy store"... I agree that is probably a gang sign but I think we can all agree that this is just sad a 7 year old should never be killed by a gang of idiots shooting a gun

7/04/2012 08:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F em all SCC. Keep up the good work.

HAVE A HAPPY AND SAFE FOURTH OF JULY!

I used to say Happy Independence Day, but now with the the Socialist in Chief occupying the White House I refuse to do so.

7/04/2012 08:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very well said! That is is not a peace sign for the love of God. Enough with this race shit. You can't even say "call a spade a spade" anymore because that's called racism, but for those of us smart enough to know this is a card analogy... Just call a spade a spade.

7/04/2012 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trib:
The latest 10yr old shot playing in fire hydrant water at 11:30 PM, to cool down, according to her 24 yr old mother who was getting her hair done up for Sat Date Night.
The ignorant will never learn.
The media can't comment on this.
How can a hood, skittles and iced tea have more media coverage and 'community' outrage than this?
We have a plan...as soon as we round up the usual Pilgrim suspects, the problem will be solved, midnight hydrants and candy stands will be safe.
Save the jungle.

7/04/2012 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here we go again SCC, why the fuck is "kiki" out playing in the fire hydrant ay 11:20 pm ??? Of course her mama was not around whe she got hit by two bullets.

7/04/2012 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a white officer that grew up in very rough part of the city before my parents were able to afford to move when I was 10 yrs old i can tell you before I left I knew how to do every gang sign in the hood and practiced to look cool thank god my parents work hard and were smart enough to get me out of there nobody's blaming the kid wake up we are obviously blaming the parent

7/04/2012 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good post...comments that refer to people unfortunate enough to have no viable escape from neighborhoods like this as "savages". . . really? A 7 y/o has no choice but to be where she is TOLD to be. No sympathy for her? I guess it's easier to treat people like garbage, to say they deserve to be victims of their environment if we can always label them as "savages, animals". I wish some of the people who comment on this blog were as introspective as some the writers of this blog. As P/O's let's be careful not to lose our own sense of humanity.

7/04/2012 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Effective writing skills, my compliments

7/04/2012 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

another kid shot last night a 10 yr old... intresting how these kids that have been shot recently have been out late, doing stuff they should not be. 10 yr old was out at night "playing" in the street in an illegally opened fire hydrant, and the 7yr old that was shot running an illegal candy store at night for her ghetto mom

7/04/2012 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing less than bad parenting allowed this pic not only to be taken but given to the media!!

God Bless the innocent children for they have no choice in the environment they're brought into by the asshole 'parents' (using that term very lightly!)

7/04/2012 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THEY ARE GANG SIGNS, anyone who says diffrent has been working the desk or at headquarters their entire time on the job!!!

7/04/2012 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gang banger in training.

7/04/2012 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could not have said it better SCC!!

7/04/2012 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I don't know scc I'm a cop worked every since I've been 15"

No hablo retardo.

7/04/2012 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous JAFO said...

Hey Media -

We know you read this. Don't you trolls feel like an insignificant worm because you can't write the truth?

Is it your boss' policy or are you just another liberal apologist that can't handle the truth? If it's your boss' policy I feel sorry for you, but I really think it's YOU as well.

All of you with your Pulitzer Prizes or TV Emmys - think hard. Do you really deserve them? Really!

Better check your egos and see if there is any integrity left.

Stop being politically correct and start being politically accurate.

Ever figure out that's why more people are turning you off or stopping subscriptions to the Trib, Times and Crains and turning to other media - INCLUDING SCC?

Not a LEO, JAFO.

7/04/2012 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not calling SCC racist...some of the posters are. At the very least, some are heartless bast*rds. She was 7. A victim of the gunshot and piss poor parenting. Kids mimic what they do. She was out at 10pm with a mom selling "lemonade". Not her fault at all (not that SCC said that).

7/04/2012 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If an African American says he dislikes white people it is his First Amendment Right.
If a White Person says they dislike African Americans they are racist.

7/04/2012 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Hoosier Clout said...

I wonder if the Mom is still going to go to Disneyland? I am sure she don't want those tickets to go to waste, especially now with her child welfare check going to be decreased by one.

Just tellin' it the way it is.

Heartless? Racist? Go rant somewhere else. We have to identify the problem before we can deal with it.

Stop dancing around the truth and look at the facts. Many of these parents should not be parents and definitely should not be rewarded by government incentives (read MY tax money) that encourage more babies that are then the next-generation of the same F&%k'ed up cycle of life.

7/04/2012 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fantastic! No truer words have ever been spoken.

ISP Sgt

7/04/2012 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chunking the duece? Peace out sign? Never saw anybody out by me doing that. I donno, still sounds ghetto to me.

7/04/2012 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right-on, SCC!

7/04/2012 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said, SCC

7/04/2012 10:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
http://keepyourchildoutofjail.com/Gang_Signs.html

Same hand gesture as heaven
Four corner hustler. Mom has four corner hustler tattoo

7/04/2012 12:11:00 AM

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Thank you

7/04/2012 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a cop.
An outstanding piece of writing.
You chose to use the weapon of TRUTH. You emptied the clip in the bullseye.
Thanks for raising the bar to show all those "journalists/tv personalities how it is done.

7/04/2012 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous LTjjt rtd said...

well said...100% accurate....and unwelcome to those who can not face the truth.....
this kid never had a chance...don't hear much from jackson morons,pleger idiot,orsharpton the clown...no money or face time on tv....
pathetic

7/04/2012 10:32:00 AM  
Blogger kateykakes said...

SCC,

Amen!

7/04/2012 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Plymouth Rocker said...

This kid never had a chance to be a kid. She was simply mimicing what she sees every day and you're right, someone thought it was cute: her representing at such an early age. How fucked up is that?! So fucked up that we can't seem to fix it or want to.

Is society so far gone that this behavior is to be expected or accepted? Sad. The old Boot Straps mentality is a far removed, ancient theory that doesn't work. Too bad. This kid, like many more to follow, doesn't stand a chance.

SCC, you've nailed this one. Mainstream media won't touch this topic for shit. Because it's shit. Preach on brother!

7/04/2012 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the politicans in this state stopped paying the breeders for bad behavior, and reward those who actually have values, like taking care of their children.

7/04/2012 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said SCC! Those liberals are the BIGGEST RACISTS they pander and smile and say that their best friend is black.

BUT where are these assholes?, they are in their nice Evanston or Oak Park homes, but never in the warzone.

The innocence is clear in the little girl Heaven's eyes, but she was born in a shithole city with LIBERALS that pander to the rights of the criminals, gangbangers and drug dealers to right the wrongs.

AND because police are not allowed to be police!

The people whose rights are being wronged are the little girls, the grandmother who still lives in the hood because the house has been in the family since the 50's, the few working poor, the good child that can't learn because of the behavior of the misunderstood honor students.

SO FUCK YOU LIBERAL HYPOCRITES!

The Teacher

7/04/2012 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bingo! Sometimes the TRUTH hurts...

7/04/2012 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In England, a peace sign with the palm turned inward is their version of The Finger.

7/04/2012 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I don't know scc I'm a cop worked every since I've been 15 , I flashed a peace sign a lot of times never once thought about I have to turn my palms outward, could it be a gang sign sure could it also be a 7 year old flashing a dam piece sign also. So I'm gonna have to disagree to disagree but I'll difinately relay the message to my children

7/04/2012 04:14:00 AM

Another idiot Cop that took a civil service exam likely before they required college (not that college means much). You go ahead and "disagree to disagree," as if that even makes sense.

This was a terrific post which explained far more than they ever should have had to explain.

Fine work SCC

7/04/2012 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said and one more comment - These liberal shitbags who gave the black community the "Great Society" ie, welfare is causing this problem and blaming everyone else but not themselves need to look in the mirror. Black poverty was in single digits in the 40's, 50's and early 60's the incomes were going up and improving - until welfare. Hey liberals, stuff this in your pipe and smoke it in your pie hole.....

7/04/2012 11:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am a black cop that grew up on that side of town and still have family that lives in that area.i have extended family by marriage and my family as well who are four corners hustlers and mafia insanes.may heaven rest in peace ,but as the saying goes you can choose your friends but you cant chose your family.its is well know that heavens mother (shit) is a high ranking four corner.so the blood is on her mothers hands.I moved away from that side of town and dont associate with some family members ,but its something all cpd officers deal with. we just dont hang around our shit head family members its not about race people its fucked up parents.

7/04/2012 11:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perfectly said: 'Maybe you ought to direct your outrage at a community that values life so little', which is exactly what I think every time I hear Jackson or Pfleger ad nauseum complain & blame everything else but the obvious!

7/04/2012 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well done, SCC.

7/04/2012 11:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said. The liberals WILL NEVER get it. Again blame the white man for the horrendous acts committed daily by people who have no regard whatsoever for life. The ghetto is what it is, STOP making excuses. Until people take responsibility for their actions things can never change. Of course she wasn't a gangbanger but obviously everyone in the family was and raised her to believe that was good, acceptable behavior. Therein lies the problem

7/04/2012 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bra-fucking-vo! This may be the single best post I have ever read here. Well said, SCC.

7/04/2012 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People need to understand that race issues require addressing race.

The American left is conditioned like Pavlov's Dog to squeal "RACIST" at the slightest mention of even the most credible racial issues.

There is a cynical and underhanded reason for this. It's because their entire ideal structure on race, 'equality' and how that all resolves into 'blame' cannot withstand even the slightest logical scrutiny.

The only way to keep their beliefs intact is to prevent them from being subject to inquiry.

7/04/2012 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All the race-baiters have to keep the civil rights industry in business

7/04/2012 12:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unwed teenage mother's with multiple fatherless children, an educational system that produces uneducated and unemployable semi-adults, elected representatives and clergy who have failed THEIR people can only respond with " racism ".
Try this on for size...FAILURE, FAILURE, FAILURE!

7/04/2012 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They just have no experience with it. They will.

It's still easy to think the underclass are people just like us save for the prejudice they face; we live in a very segregated society culturally. Decent folk bust ass to flee the ghetto. Handouts come in the mail or as EFTs. Pookie & Ray Ray & Precious don't have leave the hood. If capitalism doesn't supply anything basic, Chase bank and the USDA pay for the 'produce bus'.

But the CHA is under court order to disperse the 'gibs me's wider and some of the residents in the new diversifying neighborhoods are noticing, 'Whoa. These folks are not poor in the Christian virtue sense, they are innately ill equipped to function in society and have a perverse culture and worldview. They are not like me or anyone I've ever known.' But these observers find they have to tip toe saying anything to anyone because of the PC trendy white guilt crowd and the hair trigger outraged black middle and upper class. The black people that are fully functional members of society and the economy but feel like being black is a huge part of their identity so they read Mary Mitchell and preach, sister! They wouldn't live anywhere near Pookie or Ray Ray and sure as shit wouldn't send their kids to the same school but they profess shit in the same superficial way the 35 year old white junior exec puts on his old Che Guevara T-shirt from college to mow the lawn in his picket fence suburb. Thank liberals for this cognitive dissonance.

Right now the only time Che Guevara T-shirt and Mary Mitchell reader see the feral underclass is on TV when something truly awful has happened to them.

Likewise, the only white people or acculturated black people that the underclass sees are: police, fire, emt, hospital staff, social workers, and teachers. And these folks have known what was up for a long time, but they are not exactly poised to be the messenger. A year ago during the Walker brouhaha, one firefighter picketing the capitol said, "public sector unions are the new Mexicans, vilified and scapegoated." So true. You can thank Republicans (not conservatives, Republicans) for that one.

Our only hope is that, as the safety net dependant are dispersed either 'the solution to polution is dilution' (not likely) or a critical mass is reached of credible citizens within decent neighborhoods is able to say, "Whereas a free society is only possible when most citizens are capable of governing themselves, and Whereas the manners in which the dominant culture and the underclass govern themselves are irreconcilable, Therefore, it is necessary for our preservation that we symbolically say, 'Pookie and Ray Ray are not who we are as a people'". This involves bucking a trend: the critical rejection of rap music, the restoration of the death penalty, the tough love of scaling back the safety net. People starve to death all over the world. We live in an environment not of our choosing and it is a harsh one. If you are not comfortable having children starve to death, you must reconcile yourself to the idea of paying people to undergo permanent sterilization when they apply for safety net services. That is the least cruel option that would have any impact, IMHO. If you take compassion to it's logical end you end up in Idiocracy. I'm afraid 20th century American prosperity has made us soft. A poster on the pilgrim piece said that there is a world of difference between the people who invaded Normandy and the people who flipped condos. Best comment I ever read on SSC.

The decent black folks will find the elimination of the underclass like a bad breakup of a bad relationship; you love 'em, they are part of how you define yourself, you don't want it to end, you don't want to go through the ending, but they hurt you and they don't care about you, and you're so much better off now that its over.

7/04/2012 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a bigfat liberal and I agree with every word of your post. Just sayin'.

7/04/2012 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bravo

7/04/2012 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

palm out = peace sign, palm in = the uk version of our midlle finger salute

7/04/2012 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm more liberal than most of the people here but I agree that there were a lot of questionable parenting skills going on with the little girl.

That became apparent when the time of the shooting was given. Letting the kid copy signs she probably saw around the neighborhood would be another sign of poor supervision.

7/04/2012 02:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are a legitimate news blog for Chicago with countless entries from people that something is wrong with this ethnic group. The stereo type race blanket can not be used for cover anymore. The comments from the citizens appear true, and people are taking notice.

7/04/2012 03:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right on my brother....by the way I am black

7/04/2012 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I blamed the mommy right away, and i am black, well said.

7/04/2012 03:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, welfare is a problem...the "war on drugs" created even more of the problem. (More rural whites on welfare than blacks...now we have the meth epidemic sweeping through rural America just like crack in the 80's in the inner city). Shitty parenting goes without mentioning.

7/04/2012 04:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's more than obvious from some of the nastier comments that managed to get posted on this thread that there's no shortage of officers who would be well advised to 'look in the mirror' themselves.

7/04/2012 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://keepyourchildoutofjail.com/Gang_Signs.html

Same hand gesture as heaven
Four corner hustler. Mom has four corner hustler tattoo

7/04/2012 12:11:00 AM

------

Thank you

7/04/2012 10:07:00 AM
=
The tat seals the deal. The kid was just emulating what she saw in her home.

7/04/2012 06:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7/04/2012 12:19:00 PM





finally, someone truly understands me.






Chalkie

7/04/2012 06:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only way to keep their beliefs intact is to prevent them from being subject to inquiry.

7/04/2012 12:00:00 PM





well, if we were all truly equal, i would have fucked pam anderson, in her prime, multiple times.

7/04/2012 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't it be wonderful if the politicans in this state stopped paying the breeders for bad behavior, and reward those who actually have values, like taking care of their children.

7/04/2012 10:45:00 AM



and reduce their reliable voting bloc?

no way, jose!

7/04/2012 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No hablo retardo.

7/04/2012 09:12:00 AM




oh, sí lo hace

7/04/2012 06:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can not educate those that refuse to learn and adapt.

The last 20 years of pussification in this country on the alter of Political Correctness and racial sensitivity through guilt is the leading cause of the Gang Culture in the major Metropolitan areas of this country.

Political Animals like Jesse Jr and III and Sharpton and Farrakhan and all the MBC pastors are doing their Race a dis-service.

American Indians don't continue to slap Whites in America over the behavior of the government from 1776 to 1970.

Blacks need to grow the fuck up and move on. Be responsible like they expect others to be.

7/04/2012 06:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

really, what did you expect by posting that picture and opening it to comments? the whole thing was pretty unnecessary. regardless of the circumstances, dead kids should get a pass on our judgments, both positive and negative, informed or ignorant.

7/04/2012 08:08:00 AM




that's the ticket, keep your head up your ass.


nothing to see here, move along.

7/04/2012 06:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"its is well know that heavens "...mother [Ashake Banks](shit) is a high ranking four corner.so the blood is on her mothers hands."

--7/04/2012 11:35:00 AM

Another poster reports that she has 4CH tattoo.

How about that.

Keep going about selling sno-cones.

Riiight.

No one can see the whole city by themselves, but here we have eyes and ears in each place. Someone has always seen something. Big surprise that the bustouts are "known to the police." Thanks to SCC for providing a place for the truth to get out...

Let 4CH donate to send Mama Banks to freaking Disney World. How can you talk like that with your little girl on a slab. Sick ain't the word.

As far as throwing up signs goes...that storage room at the County Morgue says "uncool" real loud. I don't care what it means, there are too many motherf__ers out there with a bigger caliber gun than their IQ, and they are often LOOKING to take it wrong and jump up.

Different color shoelaces and there is a shooting; people die over giving the finger when cut off in traffic; we all know this as we see it every day. Maybe it would be wise not to participate in hand gestures, and teach children the danger.

Crazy hot out there and hotter tomorrow. What is this, surface of Mars? Despite a positive attitude "soaked through" says different. >grin< Your body knows it. Ice down that sports beverage to take with, and everyone stay EXTRA SAFE.

7/04/2012 07:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A poster on the pilgrim piece said that there is a world of difference between the people who invaded Normandy and the people who flipped condos. Best comment I ever read on SSC."

--7/04/2012 12:19:00 PM

That is a tremendous compliment. Thank you -- although there is much very thoughtful material here every day that is at least as good.

As I said, that particular comparison came from a TV story about the power outage in Lombard after the storms hit hard there.

There was a nasty, childish 40-something guy bitching and putting up protest signs about the heat even though he bought his own personal generator to run his personal air conditioner, and there was a quiet, dignified 80-+ couple, the wife in a wheelchair, who said, "Oh, it's a little uncomfortable but we're getting along."

Saw it again tonight; elderly lady watering her lawn. I stopped and smiled and cautioned her to take it slow in this weather -- and she said "Oh, it feels good!"

These are the folks you have to look after. They are among our treasures. Not long ago I came along by the grace of God and found an ailing elderly gentleman on his back in a hallway at 1 AM; he figured he had been there for five or six hours.

Some people are too quiet and civilized to even call for help "because they might bother someone;" they don't want you to come in "because the house is a mess," etc. Be aware of this and always look, always ask, always reach out. "My house is a mess too. I'm concerned about YOU."

I always did like the motto "To Serve And Protect."

I have to go back and study your posting some more; there is much truth there.

Everyone be careful tonight; the store was out of hot dog and hamburger buns, but it seems like they have an unlimited supply of liquor -- pushing it heavy at eye level now. That is a premium spot, nothing happens in big retail by accident. Me, I found the fruit juice.

Thanks again and God bless.

7/04/2012 08:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a cop, with an OBSERVATION of BLACK kids during a horrific civil war in ANGOLA AFRICA. I was on a special mission, twice, in '98 and 2000 and in the WORST part of the war zone > I saw STARVATION, MALNUTRITION, countless adults and kids with one or both legs blown off by landmines.
Let me TELL you about these war torn, hunger thin children dressed in rags and usually barefoot. Amazingly they had a GENTLE & BEAUTIFUL innocence in their eyes and mannerisms. THEY RESPECTED ADULTS and authority. Unlike American kids; white, black, hispanic, - - these TRULY under-priveledged kids did NOT have TV's or degenerate music to listen to.
White kids in the burbs might not be shooting each other, but check out the YouTube of rich white kids in suburban NY who viciously berated an overweight bus monitor lady who VOLUNTEERED her time for the kids. They SWORE her, called her a fat b- - - - ho, and other vile things relating to private anatomy.
Black kids play rough, beat each other up. White kids curse and berate each other viciously. American culture is violent, vicious and mean spirited. It did NOT used to be. Not to many generations ago we truly were a kinder gentler nation.
Seems as though we are becoming a breed of barbarians. The only thing that cleans us up is our prosperity, cars, houses, appliances, toys, Iphones, etc. If we ever fall into a tough depression, all bets are off, America will become a truly vicious horrible place with people going after each other no holds barred.

I truly FEAR for our nations future. Happy 236 birthday America. I hope we see another 200 but somehow I doubt it. God bless America - - if God is still willing to bless us, I pray he will, otherwise we are doomed. God bless ALL of you as well, red yellow, black and white - - -

7/04/2012 08:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great response, SCC! Profound, well written---a real bullseye. A bit of friendly advice, though. Pay less heed to your froth-at-the-mouth detractors; don't let 'em get under your skin so much. Really, you're on the right track.

7/04/2012 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Black kids play rough, beat each other up. White kids curse and berate each other viciously. American culture is violent, vicious and mean spirited. It did NOT used to be.

Really?!!! Are you kidding me? My brother and I played rough , beating each other up, sometimes ending with a broken nose or black eye. We did not stab , rape or shoot at each other, like the shitheads do today. Murder and gun fire is NOT 'playing rough', it's animal behavior, so quit PANDERING to the shithead. Your attitude is what will sell out this country.
You have excuses for the violent 'black' behavior, but post vile remarks about the verbally abusive white kids. You liberals are a joke. Stop trying to compare the plight of the entitled black man in the US to the people in war torn third world nations, who are suffering at the hands of BLACK leaders/dictators/warlords.
Btw, you could have skipped the "I'm not a cop" line, your post was enough to verify that.

7/04/2012 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No one cares about anybody else anymore. I watch people and I see them totally immersed in themselves and their own private concerns. People run and hide and pretend not to see the chaos that surrounds them. Run into your house and close the door. Keep the demons out. Or so you think.

7/05/2012 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

truth. period.

7/05/2012 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not a cop, with an OBSERVATION of BLACK kids during a horrific civil war in ANGOLA AFRICA. I was on a special mission, twice, in '98 and 2000 and in the WORST part of the war zone > I saw STARVATION, MALNUTRITION, countless adults and kids with one or both legs blown off by landmines.
Let me TELL you about these war torn, hunger thin children dressed in rags and usually barefoot. Amazingly they had a GENTLE & BEAUTIFUL innocence in their eyes and mannerisms. THEY RESPECTED ADULTS and authority. Unlike American kids; white, black, hispanic, - - these TRULY under-priveledged kids did NOT have TV's or degenerate music to listen to.
White kids in the burbs might not be shooting each other, but check out the YouTube of rich white kids in suburban NY who viciously berated an overweight bus monitor lady who VOLUNTEERED her time for the kids. They SWORE her, called her a fat b- - - - ho, and other vile things relating to private anatomy.
Black kids play rough, beat each other up. White kids curse and berate each other viciously. American culture is violent, vicious and mean spirited. It did NOT used to be. Not to many generations ago we truly were a kinder gentler nation.
Seems as though we are becoming a breed of barbarians. The only thing that cleans us up is our prosperity, cars, houses, appliances, toys, Iphones, etc. If we ever fall into a tough depression, all bets are off, America will become a truly vicious horrible place with people going after each other no holds barred.

I truly FEAR for our nations future. Happy 236 birthday America. I hope we see another 200 but somehow I doubt it. God bless America - - if God is still willing to bless us, I pray he will, otherwise we are doomed. God bless ALL of you as well, red yellow, black and white - - -

7/04/2012 08:47:00 PM

You really didn't have to post "not a cop."

Believe me, we know

7/05/2012 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well said scc, you shouldn't have to cater to these idiotic liberals who read the blog. if they don't like it then #$%^ em'. they can read their own ridiculous left-wing liberal banter. this is a very informative, fair and clear blog. scc shouldn't be criticized for reporting facts. @#$% all you haters out there because you know you're on the wrong side. when is that civil war going to happen?

7/05/2012 11:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wait until Mitt Romney becomes president and makes serious cuts to welfare programs and actually makes you look for a job...

Its a great idea but are there any jobs out there.....

There are jobs out there, you need to get off your lazy ass and go find them.. maybe you aren't as hot as you think and you have to do a job YOU feel is beneath you. Jobs are there..

7/05/2012 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yet -
in white communities you will not see photos of children like this.
I looked.
I cannot find one photo in my home with my children or any of thier friends showing ANY kind of hand signs (even peace signs!)

But, someone wants to call out the person noting those hand signs as being racist?

How about we start by turning this around and blaming the family and that f - ed up community for allowing them to raise children like this. And they can't figure out why this is happening in their communities?

They should all be made to attend parenting classes.

Un - f-ing real.

7/04/2012 05:30:00 AM

Just because you've never seen $1 million doesn't mean it doesn't exist!

7/05/2012 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when is that civil war going to happen?

7/05/2012 11:51:00 AM




when rabbits grow fangs.

7/05/2012 03:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great explanation!!!!!!!

7/05/2012 10:27:00 PM  
Blogger Organic peregrine terra cotta bricolage cruelty- free locally outsourced maple nut crunch said...

As ghetto behavior gets exponentially worse and worse, people think they can just stop the discussion by tossing out the term "racist".
As some point even the ultra-liberals will have to face reality that there is a segment of America's population that is counterproductive to our national wellbeing.

7/05/2012 11:54:00 PM  

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