Discipline Revamp?
- In the wake of the City Council’s approval of almost $33 million to settle two police misconduct cases, city officials on Friday announced an outside review of the disciplinary process for cops.
Police Supt. Garry McCarthy and Corporation Counsel Stephen Patton said experts will look into what’s being done to prevent police misconduct, how it’s reported and how it’s investigated. Mayor Rahm Emanuel called for the review several months ago, they said.
A.T. Kearney, a management consultant firm, will conduct the review for free, Patton said. Former Assistant U.S. Attorney Ron Safer, who is with the law firm Schiff Hardin, will focus on the legal issues surrounding police discipline.
Last week, the City Council approved a $10.25 million settlement for a wrongfully imprisoned man and $22.5 million for a mentally ill woman who was attacked and left severely disabled after police released her in a high-crime area.
And in November, a federal jury said the city should pay a female bartender $850,000 for the beating she suffered from off-duty Chicago Police Officer Anthony Abbate.
The jury found a “code of silence” in the department protects rogue officers like Abbate. Future lawsuits against the city could cite the verdict as evidence of a “pattern and practice” of police misconduct, legal experts say.
As covered here and elsewhere, the supposed "code of silence" protects only the politically connected. We've covered dozens of cases and everyone has a dozen more where bosses and the favored few have cases swept under the rug until someone somehow reveals where the bodies are actually buried and then the city wrings its hands a wonders how this could have happened. Abbate is just the best known because there was video.
The multi-million dollar payouts are a direct result of Shortshanks's desire to settle everything so lawyers and law firms got rich. J-Fled, for all his faults and cowardice, proved that if Corp Counsel actually fought a large percentage of these suits, they won and saved the city money as a result. Rahm, in his wisdom, discontinued this practice, in part because outside firms he didn't control, got paid. And guess where we're headed again? Paying out massive lump sums.
But any current exempt member who is part of this disciplinary restructuring ought to be asked about what they've helped cover up in the not so distant past.
The multi-million dollar payouts are a direct result of Shortshanks's desire to settle everything so lawyers and law firms got rich. J-Fled, for all his faults and cowardice, proved that if Corp Counsel actually fought a large percentage of these suits, they won and saved the city money as a result. Rahm, in his wisdom, discontinued this practice, in part because outside firms he didn't control, got paid. And guess where we're headed again? Paying out massive lump sums.
But any current exempt member who is part of this disciplinary restructuring ought to be asked about what they've helped cover up in the not so distant past.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
172 Comments:
Yes let's start with IAD's do not touch list. Then when all of the graft and politics are unveiled perhaps we can finally deal with the screwballs and abusers. Then the racists and reverse discriminators. Hey wait a minute that's the meritorious white shirts. Oh well good idea anyhow
I'm not worried about what the city pays out. The best thing for the copper being sued for BS is for the city to pay out. You dipshits that think its a good idea for the city to fight these lawsuits have never been sued. Have never had to turn over all of your financial info in case the jury comes back with punitive damages. Stop asking for the city to fight this shit. All you're doing is putting the financial future of police officers in the hands of an Illinois, Cook County jury. Wake the fuck up. Let the city settle and pay out as quickly as possible. Our goal should be the protection of the coppers not the city's coffers. And for the short sighted schmucks who'll argue, if they fight these, they'll be fewer in the long run, great. How about you volunteer to be named in the first dozen or so that go to a jury trial? Didn't think so. I've been sued three times. Only once did I have to give up my finances. The city settled on all for pittance of what the original amount was and the accompanying CR's were unfounded. Best thing that could of happened for me and the other coppers. Was it over bullshit? Of course. I don't give a fuck. Either the city settles, or ya put your balls in the hands of 12 democrats from cook county.
I don't understand the false imprisonment, why are the police being sued? Wasn't the offender found guilty in COOK COUNTY COURTS by a jury of his peers? Why sue the lowly PO's that made the arrest? Why not sue the judges, prosecuting attorneys, or the jury that came back with guilty verdict?
Discipline revamp? Yeah cuz the police are out of fucking control. Burge bullshit happened how long ago? And the other bullshit with the suppposed crazy bitch, is that really misconduct by the police or the shit birds that roam this city?
Speaking of discipline, Garry passed some out today by dumping Jarmusz to 005.
Allegedly they had a heated argument and Garry got pissed because dave threatened his all knowing glorious power and knowledge.
Good message Garry sends, who cares if you work your ass off, disagree with me and your gone. All you have to do is kiss my ring and you can get a nice XO spot, Welch, bowmer, Carothers, fletcher, Lopez, helm, Flores. It helps the cause if your a total screw up to.
if you're 50+ and have your 20+, you should be well on your way with plans to get out...
it's not going to get any better so start looking at settling in a "free" state. they'll be glad to have you.
Revamp discipline??? There is no discipline in the CPD...that's the fuckin' problem!!! Maybe introduce discipline to the CPD. However, the only way to do it is from the top down. Jody Weiss tried to do it by getting rid of all the Commanders. The problem with that strategy is that they can't help you if they are no longer around. A better strategy would be to punish supervisors for the minor wrongdoing of the people under their supervision. A few supervisors receive punishments for bullshit and they will finally start to do their jobs. If a P/O is caught without a beat tag, nametag or star and the Sgt gets punished for it will result in Sgts ensuring that all P/O's have the proper uniform and equipment. If a beat car is found outside their district in a tavern, their Sgt takes a punishment...guess what?? It won't be allowed to happen again in that district. Of course, the field Lieutenants would have to do their jobs in order to enforce this stuff. There are no bosses with the desire to do anything anymore, so it will never happen. RIP CPD.
How is it that CPD is responsible for someone who is released on their own free will? We are not baby-sitters and can hold person(s) in custody. CPD would have been sued for that, too.
If, my daughter had bi-polar, I would not allow her to travel by herself, especially to another state. What are the parents thinking?
Is there going to be a new city ordinance introduced at the next city council meeting, mandating that white people can only be sent to white lock-up facilities? and Black people go to black lock-up facilities?
The Judge said... it was like releasing a small animal into the Lions Cage at Brookfield Zoo! Does that mean, the community surrounded by 51st Street is a Zoo? Just asking!
NO WHERE on Abbatte clothing did it say, chicago police! He didn't have his star around his neck, in his hands or wearing a uniform. He was off-duty drinking and was charged as a civilian,like everyone else who committs this act. Why does the citizens of Chicago have to pay this immigrant bar tender.
How about calling ICE now and deport her?
"Police Supt. Garry McCarthy and Corporation Counsel Stephen Patton said experts will look into what’s being done to prevent police misconduct,..."
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Will these "experts" be looking into what's being done to prevent police-related:
- drinking to excess on a regular basis?
- domestic abuses?
- berating professional athletes?
- challenging subordinates to fistfights?
- romantic involvement with subordinates/marital infidelity?
- the manipulation of crime statistics via Compstat?
- the erroneous use of department evidence to bolster a democratic agenda?
Pot, Kettle. Kettle, Pot.
Where to even begin with this indeed, SCC.
SCC: how can you possibly defend the treatment of the mentally ill woman who was released at RTH? really??? this was good police work how??
They just keep adding rules and making the simplest things harder and harder to do, making even diligent cops shy away from doing their jobs because it's too damn much work to lock someone up that gets out so fast even after a felony conviction. It's like we're playing full contact pro football but we wear no pads and the bad guys have flags so they can't be tackled. But they're wearing full pads and have no rules.
The media acts like CPD transported this female to a bad neighborhood and kicked her out after locking her up in a fashion that is done with no one else. The people responsible for sending this goof to the hospital might have made an error in not sending her to be psyched. But the media acts like this female was taken there and dumped, but no one else ever was. If you get locked up where she got locked up and are a female, you went to the 02nd district lockup in all cases. Is no one responsible for their own behavior any longer? Is no one required to have common sense any longer? Are all these people incapable of sensing danger and sensible enough to act accordingly?
I'm sure she never saw a project before in her life? I watch a New York City made movie and the projects there look like Chicago projects. I'm sure the projects in LA resemble them also. They were federally funded buildings that look much the same everywhere they were.
Wait a minute!
When we ever seen a agency do "consulting"for "free" there is a sweetheart deal in the making
i agree that Tiny is a control freak
and for all his faults j-fled would push
Tiny figures if I'm going to $to a lawyer it will be a a lawyer we own
just like his ethics board, the school board
intresting to see what happens
Let them look into this bullshit all they're going to find is that less then 2 percent of us are assholes. The city pays out because this country has drowned itself in political correctness not necessarily police misconduct. I'll tell you what they will find in this so called study. They're going to find even less police officers doing proactive police work. Then the city can hire another firm to look into why our crime rate went through the roof. RT
Bitch hunt!
SCC: how can you possibly defend the treatment of the mentally ill woman who was released at RTH? really??? this was good police work how??
If you could just point out the defending in this post please? We'd appreciate it, seeing as how we don't mention it even once. Thanks Asshat.
We are not police anymore. We are customer servants for the democratic voters. Thank goodness Im almost done!
O.T...Real leader in 001... 3rd watch in 001 had to write a letter to newly appointed commander graeber because all 3rd watch cars are 99 with no time-due allowed because they only have 47 po's on the watch. The letter written questioned why a district with no gangs or shootings needs 60 po's to fill 6 tact teams while the watch is all 99. Crazy cpt Al Nogoodie gets ahold of the letter and blows a gasket because he has to explain why 001 needs 60 on tact with no shootings or gangs. You're a real leader AL, especially after you were overheard saying 3rd watch is gonna pay for forcing him to explain why he needs 60 kiss-ass anov rangers. Hey AL, does 007 have 60 on tact??? I'm gonna guess no way in hell tough guy.
In the meantime some of you assholes will continue to bring in numbers for this department. If you read some of the cases pending with the Chicago Police Board those situations can happen to anybody on this job.
If someone does something outrageous (take a bribe, beat the shit out of someone for no justifiable reason, etc.) then they don't deserve to be on this job.
But to fuck over the police over something they can not control is beyond me. In the case of the mentally ill woman. She was arrested. Her prints came out clear. She was released/signed out. She was free to go. The police can not hold her after that. If the parents were so concerned then why did they allow her to travel to another state without a concerned party looking after her?
Did anyone think that whenever the city votes to pay out millions of dollars in lawsuits that perhaps the very people voting for it (the alderman) are somehow getting back something in return?
abate's mess would have been an 0460 with a two sentence narrative, but guess what? THERE WAS VIDEO.......
What the city wants to do is replace the Chicago Police Board with a Board that is elected and reflects "the community".
For all of you idiots who are gung ho aggressive officers watch out. But nothing can be done to convince you otherwise. When a beef comes down between a shit head and a cop the city would rather believe the shit head. Not you. Yet you continue your hard aggressive police work.
Either the city settles, or ya put your balls in the hands of 12 democrats from cook county.
1/19/2013 12:24:00 AM
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Unfortunately, this man has a point.
ANOTHER point you ALL should understand is that no matter how good you think your case is, once you get into that courtroom, NOTHING is iron-clad.
You doubt me? All I need to point to is the OJ Simpson trial. That was iron-clad - wasn't it?
NEXT CASE.
Anonymous said...
Speaking of discipline, Garry passed some out today by dumping Jarmusz to 005.
Allegedly they had a heated argument and Garry got pissed because dave threatened his all knowing glorious power and knowledge.
Good message Garry sends, who cares if you work your ass off, disagree with me and your gone. All you have to do is kiss my ring and you can get a nice XO spot, Welch, bowmer, Carothers, fletcher, Lopez, helm, Flores. It helps the cause if your a total screw up to.
1/19/2013 12:31:00 AM
If you're referring to "Boehmer" she got PROMOTED to Deputy Chief, you moron ....
Remember IAD loves to sandbag!!!! Remeber that cop that was a suck ass well now he is in IAD deciding your fate.... trust me we all remember that asshat from housing. I will never forget the day he got transferred and was like "IAD how did this happen"? Like it was reverse senority, fucking handjob....
I have one bit of advice for these people--start at the top, not the bottom.
Bonding out an out of state woman with issues is misconduct?
How is it that CPD is responsible for someone who is released on their own free will? We are not baby-sitters and can hold person(s) in custody. CPD would have been sued for that, too.
If, my daughter had bi-polar, I would not allow her to travel by herself, especially to another state. What are the parents thinking?
You Sir are a Dumb F--k. Its called Serve and Protect. It also is caled Common Sense.
ook into this bullshit all they're going to find is that less then 2 percent of us are assholes.
Look at your next roll call. If there are 30 of you and there are only 3 you don't want to work with, that's 10 percent. There's a lot of assholes around. 2 percent would be 3-4 in a district -- Hey, where do you work? sounds pretty good!
SCC: how can you possibly defend the treatment of the mentally ill woman who was released at RTH? really??? this was good police work how??
she wasn't released into the robert taylor homes, she was released into the 2nd distict station where she could have arranged transportation like most people. she walked to the robert taylor homes. the media makes it sound like two evil irish wagon men from a bad 60's movie kicked her out of the wagon naked into a crowd of a bunch of animals. she walked over there herself and thought it would be a good idea to accompany (drum roll please) 20 black youths begging her to "suck their dicks" into an apartment.
she should have went to a hospital for mental treatment, but SHE WAS NOT DROPPED OFF IN THE ROBERT TAYLOR HOMES BY THE POLICE if you are going to fault the police for anything, fault them for the right thing
The sergeant who interviewed her should be fired.
"The city pays out because this country has drowned itself in political correctness not necessarily police misconduct."
No Moron,The City pays out due to malfeasance & incompetence and to protect their politically connected nitwits, as SCC accurately pointed out. It's more than apparrent you are one of these afore mentioned imbeciles who costs us not only credibilty, by Millions as well...
"Speaking of discipline, Garry passed some out today by dumping Jarmusz to 005.
Allegedly they had a heated argument and Garry got pissed because dave threatened his all knowing glorious power and knowledge.
Good message Garry sends, who cares if you work your ass off, disagree with me and your gone."
Thanks for chiming in today Dave,
Beware the man who believes his own bullshit. 39 years on the Job & you're still as shallow as your lackluster days in Area 2. Get a hint retire already, Mush.
"Yes let's start with IAD's do not touch list. Then when all of the graft and politics are unveiled perhaps we can finally deal with the screwballs and abusers. Then the racists and reverse discriminators. Hey wait a minute that's the meritorious white shirts. Oh well good idea anyhow
1/19/2013 12:15:00 AM"
Right On, Excellent Post!
Revamp discipline??? There is no discipline in the CPD...that's the fuckin' problem!!! Maybe introduce discipline to the CPD. However, the only way to do it is from the top down. Jody Weiss tried to do it by getting rid of all the Commanders. The problem with that strategy is that they can't help you if they are no longer around. A better strategy would be to punish supervisors for the minor wrongdoing of the people under their supervision. A few supervisors receive punishments for bullshit and they will finally start to do their jobs. If a P/O is caught without a beat tag, nametag or star and the Sgt gets punished for it will result in Sgts ensuring that all P/O's have the proper uniform and equipment. If a beat car is found outside their district in a tavern, their Sgt takes a punishment...guess what?? It won't be allowed to happen again in that district. Of course, the field Lieutenants would have to do their jobs in order to enforce this stuff. There are no bosses with the desire to do anything anymore, so it will never happen. RIP CPD.
That is how it works on real departments, with out merit. In the military we were held accountable for the men. LAPD is the same way, Sgts are responsible.
Det Sgt LAPD got five days when one of his minions got caught shopping. She got three, he took five having her logged on the desk.
Yea, there is a problem with discipline on the cpd but there is a much bigger problem in Shitcago city government that is costing its taxpayers waaaaay more and having a more serious effect, but that's ok.
STUPID TAXPAYERS.
Jarmusz retired instead.
A prominant trial lawyer once told me,"The reason the City loses or settles lawsuits against the Police are because the "A" law school student is hired by large prominant law firms, the "B" students to mid-level law firms, "C" student with political help become Assistant State Atts, and "D" students with a lot of help become Corp Councils or Public Defenders." Think about it. These are the people who are suppose to have our backs!!
The management firm is going to do it for free. That is like a coupon from a disreputable mechanic saying that you will get a free 136pt checkup on your car and then telling you to fix a bunch of stuff that isn't broken to make money.
In this case, the management company looks at all the information and seeks out the best lawsuits to file and refers them to their buddy law firm.
Anonymous said...
I don't understand the false imprisonment, why are the police being sued? Wasn't the offender found guilty in COOK COUNTY COURTS by a jury of his peers? Why sue the lowly PO's that made the arrest? Why not sue the judges, prosecuting attorneys, or the jury that came back with guilty verdict?
1/19/2013 12:25:00 AM
Judges and States Attorneys are immune from lawsuits, so the police who arent immune take the rap.
Let's think about this for a second. Yes, adults should be responsible for themselves, no question about it. No, we can't just hold someone in a police facility or anywhere else for safe keeping against their will.
That all being said, this women was arrested in the relatively safe confines of Midway Airport. It is the unfortunate policy of CPD to transport the female prisoners to 002 for detention. So yes, that is a big difference and it is the city basically dropping people miles from where they were supposed to be. I laugh at the "crime ridden" or "lions cage at the zoo" comments, what does this say about the neighborhoods?? Exactly, screw the race cards, it was a black neighborhood and apparently it should be known that no outsiders should be allowed in the area. I cringe every time I stop a mutt and he says "I can go where ever I want it is a free country," yeah and that only goes one way.
Hmm.. I never worry. I just answer my calls. I havent had a CR in almost 15 years.
A.T. Kearney, a management consultant firm, will conduct the review for free,
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YES
With a 'push' from the
corrupt Mayor.
After all, it is contract time and as the bastards say;
"fuck the police."
SCC: how can you possibly defend the treatment of the mentally ill woman who was released at RTH? really??? this was good police work how??
1/19/2013 01:15:00 AM
I will defend it. She, an adult with a questionable lifestyle, that was arrested. She was taken to the police facility used for that arrest. She was bonded and released in a secure police facility.
From what I read, several police officers went out of their way to help her along the way. Let's get this straight. It would have been illegal to keep her against her will after bonding, plain and simple.
Given her chosen lifestyle, would you like to be the copper who took it upon him/her self to throw her in a car against her will and take her to a hospital? The way she chose to dress and represent herself I can imagine the headline.
I fell bad for her. There are bad things that happen to people. Why is her trouble foisted on to the Chicago tax payers back? Because the lawyers make money doing this. Hate the lawyers. Hate them all. They are killing the Country.
O/T: the commander in 005 passed an edict that only 3 people can be allowed compensatory time off on 1st and 2nd watches. 6 people on 3rd watch. She said even medical roll, furloughs, and iods are factored in to this amount.
Anonymous said...
The media acts like CPD transported this female to a bad neighborhood and kicked her out after locking her up in a fashion that is done with no one else. The people responsible for sending this goof to the hospital might have made an error in not sending her to be psyched. But the media acts like this female was taken there and dumped, but no one else ever was. If you get locked up where she got locked up and are a female, you went to the 02nd district lockup in all cases. Is no one responsible for their own behavior any longer? Is no one required to have common sense any longer? Are all these people incapable of sensing danger and sensible enough to act accordingly?
I'm sure she never saw a project before in her life? I watch a New York City made movie and the projects there look like Chicago projects. I'm sure the projects in LA resemble them also. They were federally funded buildings that look much the same everywhere they were.
1/19/2013 01:27:00 AM
After reading this, I am convinced that you were on the desk crew in 002 the morning that poor girl was released. You are a fool!
At least Ron safer is extremely fair. Ron is very cpd friendly and handled many of the 90s gd prosecutions working with the cpd
Mayor Rahm Emanuel called for the review several months ago, they said.
sure he did.
Wait a minute!
When we ever seen a agency do "consulting"for "free" there is a sweetheart deal in the making
i agree that Tiny is a control freak
and for all his faults j-fled would push
Tiny figures if I'm going to $to a lawyer it will be a a lawyer we own
just like his ethics board, the school board
intresting to see what happens
1/19/2013 01:47:00 AM
Exactly...After AT Kearnery visited the Company I worked for jobs were eliminated. Be careful what you say to them.
I wonder how many jobs within will be outsourced after they leave.
The media needs to understand the two tiered discipline that's been going on in this department for a long,long time.
If you're one of the clouted things get swept under the rug etc.
If you're common folk, aka unclouted, they drop the hammer on you. The examples are countless but think of Blinky getting caught owning a drug/gun house. JFRAUD immediately absolved her of any culpability. The examples go on and on. The media needs to expose this flawed disciplinary system.
Before you all get your panties in a wad. There is a little document called a contract that outlines your rights if the department seeks to discipline you.
All the studies in the world, for a fee or for free, can't change what is written in that document. You all need to relax.
The media has intentionally misled the public by repeatedly stating that the woman was dumped off at Robert Taylor Homes projects. She was not. She was released from the lock up at 51st Wentworth. She would have been allowed to remain in the lobby of the police station if she did not want to travel into sub Saharin Chicago ghetto. Are the Chicago Police allowed to let any non African out of custody of any of the police stations if they are in a black neighborhood? This makes for a good news story...especially when the police contract is up. Ben Bradley from Ch. 7..you suck. You and your buck teeth love to bad mouth the police.
remember: not one white shirt was indicted in the SOS scandal
I think this may answer many of the questions we have concerning the direction McStreetlightassassin is taking our department. I heard this from a friend who works in 18. I got the real short version, but maybe someone has the full story. A midnight burglary car assigned to Michigan Av responds to a call of tagging on Michigan Av about a week ago. Catches the offender. Recovers the paint can. Gets felony approval for criminal damage to property. Instead of an Honorable, McStreetlightassassin wants him SPAR'd for not "preventing" the crime. If that's the case, I would expect the Supe to eat a bullet once homicides hit 100 as an acknowledgment that his gang strategy is a failure. By the way, I recognize the irony of McStreetlighassassin and "Honorable" in the same sentence.
I was working in Mass Transit when this incident with the woman took place, and I can tell you Plain and Simple; the Issue was RACE! Race dictates everything in Chicago, but like the proverbial 500 lb Gorilla, we Pretend it is not the issue. a. The Black Female desk crew in 002 resented that this White Girl had issues and ignored the calls from her parents to get her medical assistance. b. Nobody wants to admit it but when a White person finds themselves in many black areas, they are going to be robbed, raped or killed. That is reality, every cop who has worked these areas can recall an incident where a White Hype has been raped, robbed or murdered. Then there are the Whites who have car breakdowns and get victimized. The only one willing to tell the truth is the federal judge who said leaving her in that area was like putting her in the "Lions cage at Brookfield Zoo." He was correct, it is a zoo because the residents are savages, and everyone who pays taxes in Cook County contributes to the situation. Everyone on that desk should be fired, but that would admit that they acted out of racial hate for Whites. "G"
2nd District follow up to earlier rant. This is for the old timers.
Look up on Wikipedia "Wesley Willis", and be amazed at how his life unfolded up until his death in 2003. BEEEE OHHHHH!!!!
And, for the current 2nd District players, does the Lone Ranger still frequent Garfield Blvd? He'd have to be in 70's or 80's by now but maybe, just maybe, he's still out there keeping the streets safe.
Sorry to all of you out there who will have no idea what I'm talking about.
Stay safe.
Hey public, Code Of Silence = Clout
If they want discipline reform start with I.A.D.
this is the only superintendent that has not replaced the chief of iad {RIVERA).If it wasnt for Klimas as his mouth piece.RIVERA would be lucky to be a sgt.
To 1256am, first of all bi polar is treated with medication and as long as you are taking your prescribed dosage you can be functional. The lady was taken off a plane for causing a disturbance, she showed signs of suffering from a mental condition. It's possible she may of skipped a dose and had some type of breakdown. Bottom line is the city failed to do their part . She should of been taken to the hospital for observation. Reports say there were no wagons available to transport her to the hospital, , so she was locked up instead. Her parents called the station and asked them not to release her and that she was bi polar. Whoever answered that call could of easily informed the W/C of the situation. This is not considered BABYSITTING, it's call doing your job. Either she should of been transported to the hospital after the call from her parents or held until her parents arrived. I understand how some situations may feel like your babysitting but this particular incident was not that at all. You have a mental who was denied care she needed, because there wasn't a wagon available.
SCC, we realize that you're geared towards the perspective of the PO, but hopefully you're paying attention to the mutinous rumblings from the command staff. First, the deputy chiefs trying to explain why no watch commander is a bad idea - and getting rebuked by McMoron and his bitch Miniotis, then Walter Green's pretty accurate description of the "gold star mentality", to now Dave Jarmusz getting dumped because he called out McCarthy on his ineptitude.
Is someone counting strawberries at 35th St? More importantly, is someone at City Hall gauging the feelings of the bosses at the police department?
How about revamp the leadership starting with the 5th floor of City Hall
I thought this study was already done before--- the death of OPS and the birth of IPRA was supposed to stop so many misconduct allegations from being unfounded or exonerated--- the signing of the affidavit by the person accusing an officer of misconduct was supposed to cut down on the number of frivolous beefs placed against officers--- they even brought in the headhunter from california, rozenweig, to get these rogue coppers in line--- also don't forget our good buddy possum head--- good coppers will continue to do their job and protect the citizens of chicago while the experts try to figure out how to fix something that's not broken....
Funny how McIdoit is the one saying that he needs to look into discipline. That moron is the definition of a copper that should have been fired for misconduct.
What are the parents thinking?
1/19/2013 12:56:00 AM
they're democrats, so, they don't think, they just whine.
So...
The ship of state, (City of Chicago and CPD) is sinking...
There's no disputing this fact and there is universal agreement as to the root and contributory causes; in spite of the culture of denial in the face of overwhelming evidence.
The best thing the people in charge can come up with is, *We need more discipline for the chumps shoveling coal even though they're up to their asses in sea water. Chain the exits so they can't get to the upper decks. That'll show 'em.*
The people who rubbed the ship of state against the ice berg have long since looted the Purser's safe and were rowed to another ship...
>Pffft!<
Nothing. But. NOISE!
The equivalent of a room full of madly clacking, wind-up dentures and ball bearings bouncing around while circus clowns in CPD exempt member uniforms and suicide vests twist colorful balloon...
>SMH<
Pure distraction from the fact that these smart people in charge are all out of ideas.
"Discipline Revamp?"
"Police Accountability?"
"Procedural Justice & Police Legitimacy?"
No answers to address the REAL problems in this city but the people in charge are ALL OVER the representative problem of "out of control Police."
They're managing the fuck out of this "crisis," aren't they?
As far as these big settlements are concerned?
The parallel story about then CCSA and future mayor Richard M. Daley's role in the Burge drama, WILL NEVER BE EXPOSED!
This whole dust-up is about creating separation to protect HIM. At all costs. Period.
The young lady who bonded out of the Deuce and was lured then set upon by savages?
Putting pity aside...
The question was raised and NEVER satisfactorily answered by her family? If this woman was such a risk to herself and had a history of "episodes," how on earth was it that she was allowed air and opportunity to get beyond the reach of her family? Especially since they're oh so very concerned?
We venture the family is full of shit and exploited this tragic failure of common human decency that ended with her going out of that window.
This is simply another case of, "well, in hindsight, the cops coulda did SUMTHIN'."
Just like the case with that Beller maniac had circumstance been slightly different...
SCC: how can you possibly defend the treatment of the mentally ill woman who was released at RTH? really??? this was good police work how??
1/19/2013 01:15:00 AM
well, she didn't get beaten with a phone book, 'till she confessed to being Pontius Pilate reincarnated, so that's a plus.
Confidetial Section is a complete joke this section of iad should only have sgt. and above working how nice for the p.o.'s working in that unit to have a take home car for their personal use.. ask someone there when was the last time they sustained a case.
Anonymous said...
if you're 50+ and have your 20+, you should be well on your way with plans to get out...
it's not going to get any better so start looking at settling in a "free" state. they'll be glad to have you.
1/19/2013 12:33:00 AM
Doing that already. Can't wait until this crap-hole of a city is in my rear view mirror. Considering leaving the country.
Revamp discipline??? There is no discipline in the CPD...that's the fuckin' problem!!! Maybe introduce discipline to the CPD. However, the only way to do it is from the top down. Jody Weiss tried to do it by getting rid of all the Commanders. The problem with that strategy is that they can't help you if they are no longer around. A better strategy would be to punish supervisors for the minor wrongdoing of the people under their supervision. A few supervisors receive punishments for bullshit and they will finally start to do their jobs. If a P/O is caught without a beat tag, nametag or star and the Sgt gets punished for it will result in Sgts ensuring that all P/O's have the proper uniform and equipment. If a beat car is found outside their district in a tavern, their Sgt takes a punishment...guess what?? It won't be allowed to happen again in that district. Of course, the field Lieutenants would have to do their jobs in order to enforce this stuff. There are no bosses with the desire to do anything anymore, so it will never happen. RIP CPD.
the last thing i want is to go back to supv fucking w you at standup roll calls and sgts getting into your shit at every one of your jobs. there is no going back to anything because the mayor, city council, and all politicians have forever gutted this job. in my district, the sgts are regularly talking shit about each other to p/o's. that NEVER used to happen. its not a good sign.
(OT) anarchy running wild,scroll and watch video people are getting fed up everywhere this politician was really lucky!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2265002/Ahmed-Dogan-Heart-stopping-moment-man-pulls-gun-Bulgarian-opposition-leader-makes-speech-live-TV.html
All Females will be given a ride home in a Limo when released from the lock up.
Let's start with giving a breathalyzer to McBrewery.
He has to be in a natural state of .04 or more.
I saw the Mug shot of the Girl who was pushed out the window and She looked like a typical Meth head there is more to this story.
If this girls parents' were so concerned why did the let her come halfway across the country to be a prostitute. Now they are concerned because they knew they were getting paid.
As far as the shithead who spent 20+ years in prison, why didnt the clown and the band of bottom feeders he had as attorneys file suit against the 2 JAGOFFS that obstructed justice, thats right they hid behind their fucking law degrees and allowed the shithead to rot in the prison cell but were they included as defendants in the lawsuit, NOPE just the detectives.
Did the jagoff attorneys provide the new information that could have led to his release NOPE not until the guy that provided the info died, so HOW THE FUCK ARE THE DICKS AND THE CITY RESPONSIBLE????
How come no mention of the meritorious clout hack who released her? He is still a boss in a nice cushy little spot in area south.
Answer: Were not doctors or attorneys yet we deal with similiar issues and problems. Listen asshat are days are filled with dealing with everyones personal problems or family issues. Guess what were not doing fighting crime. Choose which cops you want G8/ NATO or PHDs/ Mrs could get expensive Asshat.
My motto, on this job now! 5 5 2 that's it. 5 contact cards, 5 Parkers and 2 truants equal violence overtime. FUCK doing anything for citizen, I,m. like a politician, does it benefit me.
A big first step would be to simply have a one tiered discipline program that works the same no matter who you are or who you know or who you blow.
Like that could ever happen!
Until that does happen the system will be flawed and broken right from the get-go.
How is it that CPD is responsible for someone who is released on their own free will? We are not baby-sitters and can hold person(s) in custody. CPD would have been sued for that, too.
If, my daughter had bi-polar, I would not allow her to travel by herself, especially to another state. What are the parents thinking?
1/19/2013 12:56:00 AM
Is there going to be a new city ordinance introduced at the next city council meeting, mandating that white people can only be sent to white lock-up facilities? and Black people go to black lock-up facilities?
The Judge said... it was like releasing a small animal into the Lions Cage at Brookfield Zoo! Does that mean, the community surrounded by 51st Street is a Zoo? Just asking!
1/19/2013 01:00:00 AM
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Have either of you ever dealt with any 2nd District watch bosses, desk crews or lockup crews previous to the date of the incident? If you had, you would know the true story.
But her mistreatment started before she arrived at 002. From the moment she had first contact with the CPD through her release from custody, this young woman and her family were victimized by members of our organization.
The members involved were like pimps for her rapist. Their indifference and total disregard for a standard of reasonable care, delivered her into harm's way.
Even $100 million is not sufficient for how the victim and her family were treated by the CPD and the injuries sustained by the victim because of the CPD. Many CPD members deserved to be discharged for their conduct in this incident and prosecuted. I do not know how the guilty members can sleep at night, but they must because of a skewed thought process. This incident is more heinous than the Abatte fiasco.
I would just like to see some investigation into shortshanks and how some people get promoted. for example, carrothers was promoted within one week of his crooked, convicted felon brother the alderman was sentenced to federal prison, and said alderman wouldn't snitch on anyone else. shortshanks ran things like a gang thug utilizing the rule snitches get stitches: i.e. whistleblowers get dumped from units and have their lives made miserable. while those who remain quiet get promoted and rewarded.
OT:
Way to go Jarmusz! i always thought you were a great boss. you love the job, you come to work with enthusiasm, you support the working police, and you try to motivate the non-working dogs who collect a check as if they were on welfare. you go out in the streets and have tried to make every unit you are at a better place for the working police. if you got transferred to 005 for speaking your mind, then 005 will be lucky to have you.
I actually read the lawsuit with the bi-polar girl.
She was released and wandered into the projects!
The media skips the part about the rape..
I fail to see an order that states all prisoner need safe transport back home in a taxi and that desk staff have to babysit mentals.
but hey mom and dad called the station but she is able to take trips on airline alone amazing.
its a tragedy but misconduct?
And now the mayor is hiring more outsiders to fixs us BRILLIANT!
This girl was in town from CA for a stripper job and some guys saw here and she went back with them to their place where another guy saw her and tossed her out window when he was done with her. I don't know if it is true, but, he is suppose to be out of jail already! This is the same girl kicked out of the airport and denied boarding by SouthWest Airlines. She caused a huge disturbance at the airport after accusing a blind man of "faking blindness" to pre-board the plane ahead of her. She ended up at the Orange line and CTA officers do not have cars. D/T and 008th District would not let the CTA officer have cars. They said to take her to the hospital in personal vehicles. Arrest was the only way to have her moved in CPD vehicles, it seems.
Why did the parents not accompany her, if they were so concerned. They were concerned at the depositions and on TV? Why was she in Chicago, oh, the plaintiffs attorney did not mention this, it would have prejudiced the case? Are the police mental health professionals are they required to take criminals to the mental hospitals? I checked my academy handouts and the answer would appear to be no? How can a judge say essentially, black people can not resist white women - is this not racist sounding. Why was the guy who tossed her out the window not in the lawsuit, the airport security police, or the airlines. For sure, the airline denied her a return to her parents in CA. The airline would fight the suit. The dude who tossed her out the window has no money. So blame the City. Keeping her in the lockup would have been a violation of her constitutional rights, yes or no?
And let's not forget that one of the people involved in the decisions leading up to the release of that girl from custody was a clouted 11th ward captain. But I am sure that did not enter into the decision. Or maybe they didn't wnat it to leak out that he was probably drunk that day!. Hmm
For all the troops out there, Compstat Commandant said he wants ANOV's to "be through the roof" by March. You will all be the lucky viewers of a new training video on the subject.
And he wants the ANOV's written for pissers, gamblers, and DOPW, so when the fines aren't paid you can lock up people the next time you see them. Is this guy delusional or what?
He said if the members of the tac teams aren't getting the job done then they need to be replaced.
He also wants contact cards to "be through the roof" by March, and you better be out of your cars and "hands on". 3 contact cards a day is UNACCEPTABLE!
According to McDumbo, Jan/Feb/March are when "we" should be "setting the standards" for later in the year.
Heard it straight from the horse's ass at Compstat on Thursday. I think he actually believes the shit he's trying to peddle. Treat the blue shirts like dogs and yet expect them to produce these huge numbers for him. What incentives has he given? None.
Good luck with that. I wouldn't write another ANOV ever. Or contact card. Hand in 10 blank contact cards with 'REFUSED' on them.
The media acts like CPD transported this female to a bad neighborhood and kicked her out after locking her up in a fashion that is done with no one else. The people responsible for sending this goof to the hospital might have made an error in not sending her to be psyched. But the media acts like this female was taken there and dumped, but no one else ever was. If you get locked up where she got locked up and are a female, you went to the 02nd district lockup in all cases. Is no one responsible for their own behavior any longer? Is no one required to have common sense any longer? Are all these people incapable of sensing danger and sensible enough to act accordingly?
I'm sure she never saw a project before in her life? I watch a New York City made movie and the projects there look like Chicago projects. I'm sure the projects in LA resemble them also. They were federally funded buildings that look much the same everywhere they were.
1/19/2013 01:27:00 AM
"The media acts like CPD transported this female to a bad neighborhood and kicked her out after locking her up".
Unfortunately, the CPD did transport this young woman from Midway airport to the 2nd District lockup. She was from California and didn't know the area. Plus, and this is important, she was a nut case who's parents had called and spoke with CPD Officers asking them to hold her for her own safety till they arrived. She apparently wasn't able to care for herself, yet she was released into a gang controlled area, much like throwing a rabbit into a wolves den. The tragic outcome was the result of thoughtless people who didn't give a shit, as long as they felt that they were following the rules. Well, imagine that this was your daughter. Would you want her released into the shit hole neighborhood around the 2nd? I know I wouldn't. All it takes is a little compassion and common sense on the part of the officers who deal with these people and none of this would have happened.
if you're 50+ and have your 20+, you should be well on your way with plans to get out...
it's not going to get any better so start looking at settling in a "free" state. they'll be glad to have you.
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This is a smart person. Take advantage of the tuition benefit. (Go to a reputable school, even if it means paying some money out of pocket.)
Off topic, but if anyone is interested:
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The entire I.A.D, unit needs to be revamped its "Time for a change"
Let;s start with McCarthy himself, after reading and hearing stories about him, I don't think he should be involved in any discipliny actions, this guy is an embarrassement
Maybe they should look at what passes for "management" on the CPD.
Hacks and bosses that wouldn't make it as a produce clerk in the real working world.
I don't know about you guys, but I'm only here to document the end of civilization.
Anyone doing anything on this job, is out of his/her mind.
You can't even work the desk and release someone on an Ibond without some bullshit happening in this city of savage animals.
dear responsible sergeant, fuck off. lets see cover all the late cars and the 40 and 50 cars. so log me 15 cars a night. take my half hour for lunch and 15 min for a crap 30 min for roll call and 30 min for checkoff. that leave 20 min a day per car. meet me on that corner . the end you can drink all you want the next seven hours and 40 min
Super Dave was the real Police, never took shit from anybody. Congrats on your retirement Dave and fuck the haters
Job Well Done.
Garry is an administrator and an alcoholic who does not know how to run our Police Dept. Don't think he ever was the Police anyway.
What an asshole.
We need help
"...But any current exempt member who is part of this disciplinary restructuring ought to be asked about what they've helped cover up in the not so distant past. ..."
As a Patrolman, Sergeant and Lieutenant I have sat on many of a Complaint Review Panel. The panel didn't have any real power but did make recommendations and could be cited if the officers took the department to court.
We would read the O.P.S. (later I.P.R.A.) reports at the meetings and then listen to the Officer and his/her attorney and a Department Advocate.
It was shocking to see the lousy investigations in those reports. Some would lead you to the conclusion that this was going to be "Exonerated" only to find it "Sustained" at the end.
On a couple of occasions I called the D.C.s of the Officers involved and asked them, "Did you actually read this?" Of course they wouldn't say no, my blueshirt secretary does that for me.
if the commanders and deputies had any integrity or credibility, they would all, to a person, resign their positions......and, every (every) Sgt., Lt., and Capt. would refuse to accept a commander's job.....that's right, Mr. Mayor, they all refuse...how about that for a news story
Did that Irish sgt in the Clark street incident ever get fired ?
Anonymous said...
Did anyone think that whenever the city votes to pay out millions of dollars in lawsuits that perhaps the very people voting for it (the alderman) are somehow getting back something in return?
1/19/2013 05:35:00 AM
Really? This just occurred to you? What do you think is going on here? Did you think it was just an accident that when fed boy J-Fled challenged all the cases they dropped to nothing? And now they're back to paying lawyers off just to go away.
You really don't think they are legit, do you?
I have been retired for a long time but things have not changed. Why is it that attorneys who prosecute the case for the city cannot be sued? We as street cops have to take the word of our witnesses but often the prosecutors learn that the defendant is not guilty and still they prosecute the case. They never drop the case they just want to chalk up another win. Then when it falls apart years later and an innocent guy gets out of prison it is the police officers who get sued but not the attorneys. Make the states attorneys accountable too and let them put their reputations and personal income on the line like we do.
I am long retired from the job ( 10 years). But, when i head about this incident one thing came to my mind : the indifference and lousy attitude of just about every desk crew that I have ever seen, especially the one in 002 and 008. Desk crews will do everything they can to avoid any extra work and blow off every citizen who comes in to report something. Yes, I agree with one writer, some of these people involved in this awful incident should have been fired ( The mayor stated that he is not done with this yet, so it may happen). Put yourself in the position of this girl's parents . I dont think you would have been so indifferent and callous. My god, it could have been my daughter or yours!!
....but that would admit that they acted out of racial hate for Whites. "G"
1/19/2013 10:16:00 AM
can't we all just get along?
Chalkie
The media needs to expose this flawed disciplinary system.
1/19/2013 09:49:00 AM
the media is a huge part of this flawed system.
2nd District follow up to earlier rant. This is for the old timers.
Look up on Wikipedia "Wesley Willis", and be amazed at how his life unfolded up until his death in 2003. BEEEE OHHHHH!!!!
And, for the current 2nd District players, does the Lone Ranger still frequent Garfield Blvd? He'd have to be in 70's or 80's by now but maybe, just maybe, he's still out there keeping the streets safe.
Sorry to all of you out there who will have no idea what I'm talking about.
Stay safe.
The Lone Ranger died some years ago. As for the artist, I hear that his stuff is worth a few bucks now. Not many coppers left in 002 that would know who they were but I remember them well.
Am I missing something? If I am, you should jump in and tell me what I'm not seeing.
A white woman is arrested and then released, just as anyone else would be after bonding out.
She then walks, on her own, to the projects where a group of black barbarians rape her and drop her out of a high rise window attempting to kill her.
The media and the courts say it's not the blacks fault for raping and attempting to kill her by dropping her out of window, but the police for bonding her out.
Tell me where I am missing something.
Just look at the people who headed up IAD over the years and you can see why it always has been a pocket of inefficiency, corruption, cronyism and outright unfair. I worked there for a few years and I can tell you stories as can everyone who has ever worked there. There are no standards for anything, from selection of those who are sent there as investigators, to how cases are investigated to how they are finalized. Everything is subject to influence. I really do not know how you are going to change that. Only an outsider probably can fix it.
1/19/2013 01:22:00 PM
you have obviously been brainwashed, i bet nothing is ever your fault either
Unfortunately, the CPD did transport this young woman from Midway airport to the 2nd District lockup. She was from California and didn't know the area. Plus, and this is important, she was a nut case who's parents had called and spoke with CPD Officers asking them to hold her for her own safety till they arrived.
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I don't qualify "bipolar" as being a nut case. Being pissed off one second the normal the next is basically the MO of every DC I've met in the last 20 years.
And in case you forgot, the CPD can't arbitrarily "hold onto" adults after they no longer have legal reason to after their prints clear and they bond. You can't hold someone for days refusing to bond them out, and you can't force them to sit in a lockup because it's against the law.
Neither could we have forced her into a psych ward against her will as she presented no danger to herself at the time.
So, either way, the CPD would have been fucked by these people.
Because their daughter's "bipolar" excuse caused her to decide NOT to call a fucking cab OR her parents when she got out. Instead, she went for walkies in the ghetto.
That ain't OUR fault.
Have either of you ever dealt with any 2nd District watch bosses, desk crews or lockup crews previous to the date of the incident? If you had, you would know the true story.
But her mistreatment started before she arrived at 002. From the moment she had first contact with the CPD through her release from custody, this young woman and her family were victimized by members of our organization.
The members involved were like pimps for her rapist. Their indifference and total disregard for a standard of reasonable care, delivered her into harm's way.
Even $100 million is not sufficient for how the victim and her family were treated by the CPD and the injuries sustained by the victim because of the CPD. Many CPD members deserved to be discharged for their conduct in this incident and prosecuted. I do not know how the guilty members can sleep at night, but they must because of a skewed thought process. This incident is more heinous than the Abatte fiasco.
1/19/2013 01:22:00 PM
Well said and exactly on point!
Here is the court case that details the facts of the woman's handling by CPD.
She was babbling incoherently and using her menstrual blood to write on the cells walls
The court doc speaks for itself that many of the POs involved did nothing to help and had to know what would happen when she walked out of the 002 front doors.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&ved=0CFsQFjAF&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abisoft.org%2Fopinions%2F2012%2F1_06-cv-03173_20121228.pdf&ei=tjD7UMrXIsq0rQHJ84CABg&usg=AFQjCNGLKg4fhlcggPZSMbQcLLC5cBL_6w&sig2=rSTDCDHpZvVpGYe8d7cIlw&bvm=bv.41248874,d.aWM
Right on track SCC. Take a look at the settlment of Alton Logan last week. He was legitimately found gulty of a double shooting od two off duty cops. Somehow Loevy and Loevy were able to tie Burge and his men to the case though they had nothing to do with it. Logan gets out and is a multi-millionaire.
The city could have won in the civil suit but they settled. Total disgrace by the city. Anthony Porter, Madsion Hobley, Ronald Kitchen, Aaron Patterson...all guilty but got out of prison.
Why doesn't the state's attorney go after David Protes at Northwestern's Innocence Project for the evidence they uncovered of obstruction of justice and the many claims of bribed testimony?
The reason is that once they do, the turht will come out about how badly they have betrayed their duty. It will be a mess.
Daley made Burge and the cops the fall guys. Keep up the good work, SCC.
this:
Anonymous said...
The media acts like CPD transported this female to a bad neighborhood and kicked her out after locking her up in a fashion that is done with no one else. The people responsible for sending this goof to the hospital might have made an error in not sending her to be psyched. But the media acts like this female was taken there and dumped, but no one else ever was. If you get locked up where she got locked up and are a female, you went to the 02nd district lockup in all cases. Is no one responsible for their own behavior any longer? Is no one required to have common sense any longer? Are all these people incapable of sensing danger and sensible enough to act accordingly?
I'm sure she never saw a project before in her life? I watch a New York City made movie and the projects there look like Chicago projects. I'm sure the projects in LA resemble them also. They were federally funded buildings that look much the same everywhere they were.
1/19/2013 01:27:00 AM
plus this:
Anonymous said...
I was working in Mass Transit when this incident with the woman took place, and I can tell you Plain and Simple; the Issue was RACE! Race dictates everything in Chicago, but like the proverbial 500 lb Gorilla, we Pretend it is not the issue. a. The Black Female desk crew in 002 resented that this White Girl had issues and ignored the calls from her parents to get her medical assistance. b. Nobody wants to admit it but when a White person finds themselves in many black areas, they are going to be robbed, raped or killed. That is reality, every cop who has worked these areas can recall an incident where a White Hype has been raped, robbed or murdered. Then there are the Whites who have car breakdowns and get victimized. The only one willing to tell the truth is the federal judge who said leaving her in that area was like putting her in the "Lions cage at Brookfield Zoo." He was correct, it is a zoo because the residents are savages, and everyone who pays taxes in Cook County contributes to the situation. Everyone on that desk should be fired, but that would admit that they acted out of racial hate for Whites. "G"
1/19/2013 10:16:00 AM
equals:
my every day reality.
Chalkie
Stop arresting people if your worried about being sued! Most of the bullshit arrests are being made only to pad your monthly overtime and to keep your bosses happy. If you have a signed complaint do your duty otherwise f**k em. Give this city the police department they deserve!
It just depends on how much one wants to "sell" his/her soul to be and remain an exempt with the gold star pay and take home car.
The so unqualified Leroy Martin would scream at the exempts during staff meetings. The exempts would be sitting on the edge of their chairs groveling to Martin hoping they wouldn't dumped.
Unqualifed Walter Green played the game as an exempt and then blasted all of his peers at Compstat. NOT A PEEP BY TOUGH GUY MCCARTHY IN DEFENSE OF HIS COMMAND STAFF THAT JUST GOT RIDICULED AND MOCKED BY THE RETIRING WALTER GREEN.
MCCARTHY RAN OUT OF THE COMPSTAT MEETING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH.
At least Walter Green paid tribute to the beat and tactical officers and detectives who are in the front lines day in and day out doing the job.
1/19/2013 01:57:00 PM
God forbid it be your child.
Stroke.
Anonymous said...
SCC: how can you possibly defend the treatment of the mentally ill woman who was released at RTH? really??? this was good police work how??
1/19/2013 01:15:00 AM
OMFG !! I'm so got damn tired of hearing aobut that White female who bonded out and took her ass voluntarily to RTH ! She went there to get high ! And didn't have any money.So just like the old saying goes" CASH or ASS " . Nothing is free. She tried to work it off but her bill was too high and she ran , but couldn't quite make it all the way down stairs, so she jumped ! Now CPD gets the blame for her ass. She wasn't that bi-polar to engage in that illegal activity ! CPD can't make a person voluntarily tell them that they're bi-polar or has some type of illness. And CPD can't hold you're ass against your will once it's time to bond out. Plus, the women's lock up facility at that time for 008 was 002 !
The clout babies will continue to literally get away with murder, pissing hot, psmv, tearing pdf their wife's ear, rape, sex with minors, domestics, theft, etc.
Nothing will change!
The clout will continue to embarrass and destroy the CPD!
Obviously the parents of this woman were not too worried about their daughter boarding a plane in California alone to come to Chicago... But all of a sudden she cannot care for herself when she is 5 or 6 states away. Sounds fishy
Anonymous said...
"Speaking of discipline, Garry passed some out today by dumping Jarmusz to 005.
Allegedly they had a heated argument and Garry got pissed because dave threatened his all knowing glorious power and knowledge.
Good message Garry sends, who cares if you work your ass off, disagree with me and your gone."
Thanks for chiming in today Dave,
Beware the man who believes his own bullshit. 39 years on the Job & you're still as shallow as your lackluster days in Area 2. Get a hint retire already, Mush.
I have to agree. I'm sure he is 60.
Anonymous said...
How is it that CPD is responsible for someone who is released on their own free will? We are not baby-sitters and can hold person(s) in custody. CPD would have been sued for that, too.
If, my daughter had bi-polar, I would not allow her to travel by herself, especially to another state. What are the parents thinking?
1/19/2013 12:56:00 AM
Is there going to be a new city ordinance introduced at the next city council meeting, mandating that white people can only be sent to white lock-up facilities? and Black people go to black lock-up facilities?
The Judge said... it was like releasing a small animal into the Lions Cage at Brookfield Zoo! Does that mean, the community surrounded by 51st Street is a Zoo? Just asking!
1/19/2013 01:00:00 AM
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Have either of you ever dealt with any 2nd District watch bosses, desk crews or lockup crews previous to the date of the incident? If you had, you would know the true story.
But her mistreatment started before she arrived at 002. From the moment she had first contact with the CPD through her release from custody, this young woman and her family were victimized by members of our organization.
The members involved were like pimps for her rapist. Their indifference and total disregard for a standard of reasonable care, delivered her into harm's way.
Even $100 million is not sufficient for how the victim and her family were treated by the CPD and the injuries sustained by the victim because of the CPD. Many CPD members deserved to be discharged for their conduct in this incident and prosecuted. I do not know how the guilty members can sleep at night, but they must because of a skewed thought process. This incident is more heinous than the Abatte fiasco.
1/19/2013 01:22:00 PM
Sorry for pasting so much. But while I disagree with the amount awarded, and I can understand that we are not required to babysit those who are released, I'm still bothered that even though it wasn't required by G.O. or whatever, that no one showed more compassion for this girl.
It comes down to paying attention to details, and passing it along the chain of command. Is it written anywhere that we have to be compassionate? No. But could we have done better in this case rather than doing the bare minimum? I think so.
Anonymous said...
SCC, we realize that you're geared towards the perspective of the PO, but hopefully you're paying attention to the mutinous rumblings from the command staff. First, the deputy chiefs trying to explain why no watch commander is a bad idea - and getting rebuked by McMoron and his bitch Miniotis, then Walter Green's pretty accurate description of the "gold star mentality", to now Dave Jarmusz getting dumped because he called out McCarthy on his ineptitude.
Is someone counting strawberries at 35th St? More importantly, is someone at City Hall gauging the feelings of the bosses at the police department?
1/19/2013 10:50:00 AM
I'm not a troll. Just not in the loop. Want to know if there's hope that someone actually called McBozo out? It's amazing how McDummy won't even tolerate a different viewpoint--it's his way or the highway.
And I agree with other posters, who the f*ck is he to talk about discipline? Did he do any time for the whole fiasco with the parking ticket with his daughter? I don't think so. What about the two incidents afterwards where he tried to get coppers dumped who wrote DUI's to his family???
Get real McDumbell....you cannot lead by example, and you have no idea what you are doing. I hope to see you slowly swirl down the drain.
1/19/2013 09:22:00 AM
I'm convienced you were not in 002 and you are in fact a troll
First see how the City makes their close room deals. This money is nothing compare to what they do. Meters to start.
(O.T...Real leader in 001)
1/19/2013 05:30:00 AM
They are right, nagode is a nut job. The 1st district has 60 on tact, wtf goes on there?
Is it true that the Lt. and Sgt. that sprayed pepper spray inside of a restaurant because they didn't get a discount are back on the job?
O/T: the commander in 005 passed an edict that only 3 people can be allowed compensatory time off on 1st and 2nd watches. 6 people on 3rd watch. She said even medical roll, furloughs, and iods are factored in to this amount.
Not of fan of hers but first it came from 35th st. Second it allows a percentage off each day. Yeah the percentage is bogus but it didnt come from her.
When they figure out how to discipline a Superintendent, they'll have something.
God, I'm really having a hard time accepting the farcical as fact. I don't even know if those are the right words. I just can't believe that up is down and down is up. That we have a supe that has no morals, and that goes for the mayor, our congressmen, our senators, et al.
McTutuSniffer is demanding more ANOV's and contact cards, and yet nobody can get a day off.
Somebody tell me when it's safe to stick my head out of the rabbit hole.
The code of silence or not ratting on another cop has been around forever. It's only been the last 10 years or so that the blue line has been crossed.
I don't understand the false imprisonment, why are the police being sued? Wasn't the offender found guilty in COOK COUNTY COURTS by a jury of his peers? Why sue the lowly PO's that made the arrest? Why not sue the judges, prosecuting attorneys, or the jury that came back with guilty verdict?
You're kidding, right?
SCC: how can you possibly defend the treatment of the mentally ill woman who was released at RTH? really??? this was good police work how??
If you could just point out the defending in this post please? We'd appreciate it, seeing as how we don't mention it even once. Thanks Asshat.
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Hey Second city, take it easy... I don't believe the writer was directing his comment as a blame to your story. I think he or she was speaking in third sense, asking you to agree with his comment. I see asshat has been your favorite response. Get some rest, I think midnights might be taking a toe on you.
If you're referring to "Boehmer" she got PROMOTED to Deputy Chief, you moron
Awesome response, just another example of why the bosses take advantage of us, we are our own worst enemies.
Sorry, Kathy wasn't shifted to XO for her complete incompetance, she was promoted.
OT: Police Watchdog Employee Charged With Threatening Co-Workers
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/19/police-watchdog-employee-charged-with-threatening-to-kill-self-co-workers/
O.T...Real leader in 001... 3rd watch in 001 had to write a letter to newly appointed commander graeber because all 3rd watch cars are 99 with no time-due allowed because they only have 47 po's on the watch. The letter written questioned why a district with no gangs or shootings needs 60 po's to fill 6 tact teams while the watch is all 99. Crazy cpt Al Nogoodie gets ahold of the letter and blows a gasket because he has to explain why 001 needs 60 on tact with no shootings or gangs. You're a real leader AL, especially after you were overheard saying 3rd watch is gonna pay for forcing him to explain why he needs 60 kiss-ass anov rangers. Hey AL, does 007 have 60 on tact??? I'm gonna guess no way in hell tough guy.
1/19/2013 05:30:00 AM
under Al's orders, tact is not to be touched to fill the downed cars on the watch, only bike teams will be pulled to fill downed cars.
sure disciplinary measures will apply equally to every p.o....not in 017..little napoleon formerly of 3rd watch now on 2nd watch never has to answer for his bullshit...protected by 1710 for years and now even by the new 1710, our own LAPA meritorious hack RM...only when Little Napoleon fucks big time at a boss's expense or his patron dies while we be finally rid of that piece of shit.
This is ridiculous
Burge was 30 yrs ago and we know that just cause some sh!tbirds had the case thrown out it doesn't necessarily mean they didnt do it.
This girls parents should pay out for letting her go out of state knowing she was of no mind to do so. The parents were uncaring and callous for not keeping her safe. And if this girl lived to be 100 she wouldn't earn 1 million dollars in her life and her maladies could be taken care of with less than 2 million which should be payed by her parents and the offenders who hurt her. Every other person on the street is bipolar.
Dick Simpson wrote a half ass@d article about police officers who were convicted over the last 20 yrs or so which was a very small number compared to how many officers have been on the street in that time.
Yet he fails to point out the high number of politicians convicted which takes up a much larger percentage than police yet he stays quiet on that hmmm why is that...
Oh yes because he was a politician and doesn't want to risk being not invited to their cheese and wine parties
1/19/2013 05:30:00 AM
what the hell does 60 tact po's do in 001?
My motto, on this job now! 5 5 2 that's it. 5 contact cards, 5 Parkers and 2 truants equal violence overtime. FUCK doing anything for citizen, I,m. like a politician, does it benefit me.
5 Parkers WHY?? Dont give the city that money. If two out of the five pay thats 10 per week x 50.00 x 45 weeks (less vaction, sick, and furlough days)= $22,500 for this city. Have you lost your mind!!!!!
Anonymous said...
I'm not worried about what the city pays out. The best thing for the copper being sued for BS is for the city to pay out. You dipshits that think its a good idea for the city to fight these lawsuits have never been sued. Have never had to turn over all of your financial info in case the jury comes back with punitive damages. Stop asking for the city to fight this shit. All you're doing is putting the financial future of police officers in the hands of an Illinois, Cook County jury. Wake the fuck up. Let the city settle and pay out as quickly as possible. Our goal should be the protection of the coppers not the city's coffers. And for the short sighted schmucks who'll argue, if they fight these, they'll be fewer in the long run, great. How about you volunteer to be named in the first dozen or so that go to a jury trial? Didn't think so. I've been sued three times. Only once did I have to give up my finances. The city settled on all for pittance of what the original amount was and the accompanying CR's were unfounded. Best thing that could of happened for me and the other coppers. Was it over bullshit? Of course. I don't give a fuck. Either the city settles, or ya put your balls in the hands of 12 democrats from cook county.
1/19/2013 12:24:00 AM
Yes, this officer (I prefer "Officer" to dipshit if you please) thinks it is better to fight lawsuits than to pay out and slink away, most definitely. If that gets you upset and nervous, too bad. Did you not know lawsuits might happen when you hired on?
Did some corp counsel or private attorney not tell you that there was a strong possibility that somewhere in the lawsuit process you will be required to divulge personal financial information?
Were you not prepared to do that? That is, had you not made preparations to move and protect your assets? Investment accounts in trust or wife's name, real estate in trust etc.
This is the nature of the job now. If you don't have the stomach for it then go to some assignment where your preferred arsenal of police equipment included ticket books and traffic court calendars. There is nothing wrong with that but if you are out there putting the beast away you can expect the beast to push back any way they can.
I derive much satisfaction out of prevailing in court, more so than if the City writes a check in my name. And I have so far always prevailed in causes of action against me, so far, only in Federal Court. Great feeling to win in Federal Court against the beast. I love to watch their lawyer walking out of court without a payday.
It's part of the job now. Take some Tums and/or Pepto Bismol. I've been fortunate both in being right so far and getting good attorneys assigned to my case.
Dare to struggle, dare to win.
"But to fuck over the police over something they can not control is beyond me. In the case of the mentally ill woman. She was arrested. Her prints came out clear. She was released/signed out. She was free to go. The police can not hold her after that. If the parents were so concerned then why did they allow her to travel to another state without a concerned party looking after her?"
As a parent of a mentally ill adult child you are obviously uninformed. At the age of 18 they are considered an adult. Parents have no rights over their treatment or medication management. If you try to gain guardianship over a bipolar adult you have more chances of winning the lotto. And medications don't always work. It is hard to explain such a complex illness over a blog, so I suggest you take CIT training to gain a better perspective. Parents are doing the best to keep their mentally ill kids safe from themselves and the community, unfortunately, there are not a lot of resources out there. We have no recourse when they are adult age. It is a very sad situation for everyone involved.
1/19/2013 05:30:00 AM
Hey 3rd watch in 001, great letter, it's about time someone pointed out the obvious.
Member of Independant Police Review Authority get arrested!
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2013/01/19/police-watchdog-employee-charged-with-threatening-to-kill-self-co-workers/
Was that woman truely mentally ill, unable to make decisions for herself??? All I know is what i've read and what was printed was that she is bi-polar. Does being bi-polar mean you are a completely dependent mentally ill person??? Shit, I know police supervisors that are bi-polar <>
The media acts like CPD transported this female to a bad neighborhood and kicked her out after locking her up in a fashion that is done with no one else. The people responsible for sending this goof to the hospital might have made an error in not sending her to be psyched. But the media acts like this female was taken there and dumped, but no one else ever was. If you get locked up where she got locked up and are a female, you went to the 02nd district lockup in all cases. Is no one responsible for their own behavior any longer? Is no one required to have common sense any longer? Are all these people incapable of sensing danger and sensible enough to act accordingly?
I'm sure she never saw a project before in her life? I watch a New York City made movie and the projects there look like Chicago projects. I'm sure the projects in LA resemble them also. They were federally funded buildings that look much the same everywhere they were.
1/19/2013 01:27:00 AM
"The media acts like CPD transported this female to a bad neighborhood and kicked her out after locking her up".
Unfortunately, the CPD did transport this young woman from Midway airport to the 2nd District lockup. She was from California and didn't know the area. Plus, and this is important, she was a nut case who's parents had called and spoke with CPD Officers asking them to hold her for her own safety till they arrived. She apparently wasn't able to care for herself, yet she was released into a gang controlled area, much like throwing a rabbit into a wolves den. The tragic outcome was the result of thoughtless people who didn't give a shit, as long as they felt that they were following the rules. Well, imagine that this was your daughter. Would you want her released into the shit hole neighborhood around the 2nd? I know I wouldn't. All it takes is a little compassion and common sense on the part of the officers who deal with these people and none of this would have happened.
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She was smart enough to buy a plane ticket, board a plane from L.A., travel here and cause a disturbance at Midway. She also refused all attempts to help her. Your thinking is typical liberal democrat conditioning, make people victims and blame society for it.
Don't worry democrat, the gov. will take care of you.
Her parents were only concerned after she got arrested. Now, they get a check courtesy of the gov. Do you now see how it works?
Anonymous said...
I saw the Mug shot of the Girl who was pushed out the window and She looked like a typical Meth head there is more to this story.
1/19/2013 12:17:00 PM
The media said she fell out the window, makes the story more sympathetic to the public and jury. It also puts more blame on the police and away from the savages that actually committed the crime. Liberalism 101. Why no mention of the OFFENDERS who raped and put this woman in a wheelchair? Where were their mugshots in the article? Are they still incarcerated? Are they out on the streets? Shame on the media. This once great country will be destroyed from the inside out. God forbid we blame the criminals. Thank you media.
Anonymous said...
Am I missing something? If I am, you should jump in and tell me what I'm not seeing.
A white woman is arrested and then released, just as anyone else would be after bonding out.
She then walks, on her own, to the projects where a group of black barbarians rape her and drop her out of a high rise window attempting to kill her.
The media and the courts say it's not the blacks fault for raping and attempting to kill her by dropping her out of window, but the police for bonding her out.
Tell me where I am missing something.
1/19/2013 05:39:00 PM
Oh, you mean it's like blaming the GUN when some criminal pulls the trigger.
Anonymous said...
I don't know about you guys, but I'm only here to document the end of civilization.
Anyone doing anything on this job, is out of his/her mind.
You can't even work the desk and release someone on an Ibond without some bullshit happening in this city of savage animals.
1/19/2013 04:26:00 PM
Of course, the only way to protect against this happening again, is to eliminate all I-bonds.
She came all the way from California and her family still hit the "ghetto lottery."
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Awesome response, just another example of why the bosses take advantage of us, we are our own worst enemies.
Sorry, Kathy wasn't shifted to XO for her complete incompetance, she was promoted.
1/19/2013 11:42:00 PM
Great answer, you make a good point. You get called a moron for making a mistake and including her in with the others who were given XO spots. Think we know who the moron is on this one
I don't understand the false imprisonment, why are the police being sued? Wasn't the offender found guilty in COOK COUNTY COURTS by a jury of his peers? Why sue the lowly PO's that made the arrest? Why not sue the judges, prosecuting attorneys, or the jury that came back with guilty verdict?
You cant be the police, at least I hope you aren't. Because they are exempt from the lawsuits
Is it true that the Lt. and Sgt. that sprayed pepper spray inside of a restaurant because they didn't get a discount are back on the job?
1/19/2013 10:21:00 PM
Who knows if they are heavy enough, they may even get meritoriously promoted
Is it true that the Lt. and Sgt. that sprayed pepper spray inside of a restaurant because they didn't get a discount are back on the job?
1/19/2013 10:21:00 PM
Yes they are. But in their defense, they were really hungry. Like hungry, hungry hippo hungry.
you have obviously been brainwashed, i bet nothing is ever your fault either
1/19/2013 05:47:00 PM
Your retort to my comment makes no sense, but no, I am not brainwashed. I am a parent and have 30+ years on the job. I bring compassion and a reasonable standard of care to both roles.
Once I bring a child into the world or take a citizen's freedom from them, compassion and a reasonable standard of care are both expected and demanded of me, not only by our profession and society in general, but by my own code of ethics.
Other commentors fault the parents of the victim. Now that is really foolish. Once they reach 18 years of age, you cannot let them do or deny them anything. You have no power over them, even if they are mentally ill. You can take your case to court, but success depends on the severity of their illness.
And, some others blame the victim. It is of no matter what her intentions were for coming to Chicago because once we took her freedom from her, we, all of us, regardless of rank, gender and race, are required to be professional, to be compassionate and to exercise a reasonable standard of care, if not only by law or general order, but by our law enforcement code of ethics.
The CPD members who had contact with her or were involved in the chain of events, failed the victim and her parents and the CPD organization. It is just that simple. Heads should have rolled. Their actions or lack of appropriate and responsible action, only widened the chasm of citizen mistrust towards the law enforcement profession and the CPD. We should all be ashamed, especially all the members involved.
It comes down to paying attention to details, and passing it along the chain of command. Is it written anywhere that we have to be compassionate? No. But could we have done better in this case rather than doing the bare minimum? I think so.
1/19/2013 08:40:00 PM
You are on the fence about the matter. Now read the Law Enforcement Code of Ethics. The answer comes under the heading,
"Primary Responsibilities of a Police Officer:
A police officer acts as an official representative of the government; he is required and trusted to work within the law. The officer's powers and duties are conferred by statute. The fundamental duties of a police officer include serving the community; safe-guarding lives and property; protecting the innocent; keeping the peace; and ensuring the rights of all to liberty, equality and justice."
There was no safe-guarding or protection of the innocent. Heads should roll.
Anonymous said...
Is it true that the Lt. and Sgt. that sprayed pepper spray inside of a restaurant because they didn't get a discount are back on the job?
1/19/2013 10:21:00 PM
Yes.
Found guilty of a rule 14 and still have their jobs.
Isn't being a white shirt grand?
SCC: how can you possibly defend the treatment of the mentally ill woman who was released at RTH? really??? this was good police work how??
If you could just point out the defending in this post please? We'd appreciate it, seeing as how we don't mention it even once. Thanks Asshat.
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Hey Second city, take it easy... I don't believe the writer was directing his comment as a blame to your story. I think he or she was speaking in third sense, asking you to agree with his comment. I see asshat has been your favorite response. Get some rest, I think midnights might be taking a toe on you.
(she) was, rightly or wrongly, taking SCC's silence on the matter as condoning the dept's handling of the incident. i was really looking for some outrage at the actions that led to the city having to make such a huge payout. even nutjobs deserve to be treated with some kindness and respect. i get that a lot of newbie coppers read this page, it might be a good lesson for them to learn. you never know who you are dealing with, or where your action (or inaction) will lead. SOGs were not followed in this case, she should have been transported to a hospital. no wagon? take her in a squad. or find some other way. the end result is a permanently disabled person, and the taxpayers pay. and it could have all been avoided. call me an asshat again, that's how i feel.
This girls parents should pay out for letting her go out of state knowing she was of no mind to do so. The parents were uncaring and callous for not keeping her safe. And if this girl lived to be 100 she wouldn't earn 1 million dollars in her life and her maladies could be taken care of with less than 2 million which should be payed by her parents and the offenders who hurt her. Every other person on the street is bipolar.
1/20/2013 02:50:00 AM
You are a fucking idiot.
I'm retired CPD and spoke out on the girls behalf but my post never made it to the board. Don't know why but I'm glad that others' who shared my sympathetic point of view were allowed to speak on my behalf. Totally mishandled from the beginning and we did fail to PROTECT her in every step of the way.
remember, all Marvin Powell was charged with kidnapping that female ...
here's Marvin Powell - convicted of kidnapping
https://www2.illinois.gov/idoc/Offender/Pages/InmateSearch.aspx
At the minimum, the watch commanders on duty when this girl was in custody should have been fired.
Ultimately, they were responsible for her well being while she was in custody and upon her release.
Watch commander was a very important job on this department back in the day. If this department cut the heads off the bad ones, who spent their careers doing crossword puzzles, then this department would be in much better shape today.
I read a long conversation here between two people writing about lawsuits. Both were wrong.
First, if you are liable for punitive damages and the plaintiff tries to collect from you, the first thing the plaintiff will go after is your paycheck, not your home. Once the judge realizes you have manipulated your assets, he will grossly garnish your wages. If you are truly frightened of punitives, get an insurance policy.
Second, the best way to avoid punitives is to NOT cover up. Punitives are assessed against liars.
Third, make sure every arrest, no matter how minor, is ready for court. Follow your cases through court, even misdemeanors. Don't miss court dates. Write good paper. Testify clearly. If you're not going to work for a conviction, don't make arrests. Criminal convictions are the best way to avoid a lawsuit altogether.
Fourth, never jump on paper.
Finally, don't do silly shit. Take your job seriously. Avoid fools.
read a long conversation here between two people writing about lawsuits. Both were wrong.
First, if you are liable for punitive damages and the plaintiff tries to collect from you, the first thing the plaintiff will go after is your paycheck, not your home. Once the judge realizes you have manipulated your assets, he will grossly garnish your wages. If you are truly frightened of punitives, get an insurance policy.
Second, the best way to avoid punitives is to NOT cover up. Punitives are assessed against liars.
Third, make sure every arrest, no matter how minor, is ready for court. Follow your cases through court, even misdemeanors. Don't miss court dates. Write good paper. Testify clearly. If you're not going to work for a conviction, don't make arrests. Criminal convictions are the best way to avoid a lawsuit altogether.
Fourth, never jump on paper.
Finally, don't do silly shit. Take your job seriously. Avoid fools.
1/20/2013 10:30:00 PM
Now three of you are wrong. There is no insurance policy to protect you. Homeowners wont do it and an umbrella policy doesnt cover it only increases the coverage of your other policies.
Doctors, nurses, lawyers , etc have specific policies that cover them for certain job related judgments. Law enforcement does not. There is no policy to cover police officers for job related claims. If there were FOP, or insurance companies would offer them. Its just an urban myth that po's have been saying for years.
There is no malpractive insurance for the police. Umbrella and homehowners doesnt cover lawsuits at work. Also punitive awards arent covered by any insurance. By the definition of the word "punitive" its meant to punish you, not have an insurance company pay the award or settlement
A prominant trial lawyer once told me,"The reason the City loses or settles lawsuits against the Police are because the "A" law school student is hired by large prominant law firms, the "B" students to mid-level law firms, "C" student with political help become Assistant State Atts, and "D" students with a lot of help become Corp Councils or Public Defenders." Think about it. These are the people who are suppose to have our backs!!
You are possibly one of the stupidest motherf*****s in the world for posting that or maybe you never had a suit against you, or totally screwed up and lost a suit,
asshat. In any case you don't know your ass from your brain. They have enough to do already and you are probably one of the dipshits that add to the caseload.
Anonymous said...
I'm not worried about what the city pays out. The best thing for the copper being sued for BS is for the city to pay out. You dipshits that think its a good idea for the city to fight these lawsuits have never been sued. Have never had to turn over all of your financial info in case the jury comes back with punitive damages. Stop asking for the city to fight this shit. All you're doing is putting the financial future of police officers in the hands of an Illinois, Cook County jury. Wake the fuck up. Let the city settle and pay out as quickly as possible. Our goal should be the protection of the coppers not the city's coffers. And for the short sighted schmucks who'll argue, if they fight these, they'll be fewer in the long run, great. How about you volunteer to be named in the first dozen or so that go to a jury trial? Didn't think so. I've been sued three times. Only once did I have to give up my finances. The city settled on all for pittance of what the original amount was and the accompanying CR's were unfounded. Best thing that could of happened for me and the other coppers. Was it over bullshit? Of course. I don't give a fuck. Either the city settles, or ya put your balls in the hands of 12 democrats from cook county.
1/19/2013 12:24:00 AM
ALL MY MONEY IS IN MY MOTHER'S NAME!
Hey 3rd watch in 001, great letter, it's about time someone pointed out the obvious.
1/20/2013 09:27:00 AM
Agreed! The shortage of police on the third watch in 001 is no longer a joke, it is dangerous. And, when the p.o.'s need time due, it could be covered by the overload of tact officers who work a (usually) four hour night. Go to their tact office when there is a game on the television. They are all in there, watching the show and talking and laughing. Not much work going on. The bosses know this, but do nothing.
As long as the Confidential Section of IAD never sustains a case, they can stay right there with their take home cars and waste all the money they want.
I simply adore Ben Bradlee's buck teeth. It keeps them out of the way and prevents scratching.
You know what I mean, cutie!
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
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