What Are They Smoking?
Two interesting comments:
- I think this may answer many of the questions we have concerning the direction McStreetlightassassin is taking our department. I heard this from a friend who works in 18. I got the real short version, but maybe someone has the full story. A midnight burglary car assigned to Michigan Av responds to a call of tagging on Michigan Av about a week ago. Catches the offender. Recovers the paint can. Gets felony approval for criminal damage to property. Instead of an Honorable, McStreetlightassassin wants him SPAR'd for not "preventing" the crime. If that's the case, I would expect the Supe to eat a bullet once homicides hit 100 as an acknowledgment that his gang strategy is a failure. By the way, I recognize the irony of McStreetlighassassin and "Honorable" in the same sentence.
- For all the troops out there, Compstat Commandant said he wants ANOV's to "be through the roof" by March. You will all be the lucky viewers of a new training video on the subject.
And he wants the ANOV's written for pissers, gamblers, and DOPW, so when the fines aren't paid you can lock up people the next time you see them. Is this guy delusional or what?
He said if the members of the tac teams aren't getting the job done then they need to be replaced.
He also wants contact cards to "be through the roof" by March, and you better be out of your cars and "hands on". 3 contact cards a day is UNACCEPTABLE!
According to McDumbo, Jan/Feb/March are when "we" should be "setting the standards" for later in the year.
Heard it straight from the horse's ass at Compstat on Thursday. I think he actually believes the shit he's trying to peddle. Treat the blue shirts like dogs and yet expect them to produce these huge numbers for him. What incentives has he given? None.
Good luck with that. I wouldn't write another ANOV ever. Or contact card. Hand in 10 blank contact cards with 'REFUSED' on them.
Anyone want to let us know if there's a grain of truth to rumor #1. Rumor #2 sounds exactly like a few stories we heard Friday.
Labels: rumors
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
143 Comments:
This job is starting to be a joke.
Rumor # 1 absolutely true. The Lt. Had to write a to from documenting where every single Michigan Ave car was the moment the tagging was taking place. Didn't matter he was caught and charged.
Well then they had better write a G.O. for quotas then because last time I checked the General Orders there was nothing said about having to have any specific quantity of activity other than answering your jobs. With the morale in the toilet, there's no way I'm gonna write contact cards and ANOV's.
I wouldn't do rats ass on this depth. If you're hurting for money take advantage of the tuition reimbursement and learn a skill that can help you earned that extra money.
We play a game in improv it's called DIED! DIED! DIED Already.
Fuck u McCarthy I will break my right hand before I write another ANOV/Contact Card
good luck finding people to work tact.
Gus:
Time for a condidential heart-to-heart with your mentor. He has no credibility whatsoever. His highly-respected NYPD daddy, God bless his soul, would be ashamed.
The only response to that is LMFAO. I can see a bunch of scared little idiots on the watches trying to save their spots, or cars, because starting early or working the 10 sector is better. BUT for anyone on a bid that is scared of this you my friend are idiots.
20 years on and I aint writing a ANOV and only contact cards I am writing will be the 5 I need for violence reduction.
LMFAO, this whole dept is a freaking joke. 500 plus homicides and this IDIOT is worried about contact cards and ANOVs.
You can't write this shit for a movie. WTF
IT'S THE NEW STRATEGY AGAIN
"Insanity is when you keep performing the same action, expecting a different result."
Won't do what City Of Aurora did and call in lots of help -- Little Big Man's ego won't wear it -- and scoop all the serious repeat offenders, parole violators, illegals, etc.
Let's ticket pissers instead.
okay, writing anovs for pissers and j walkers and writing contact cards are really going to solve the problems and crime this lost city has! yeah right. hire the couple thousand of coppers we're short already and lets get out of the box and back to policing when we actually made a difference and owned the streets. then have McNutty pull some strings and do something about the joke of a judicial system we have here
Maybe morale can be improved and the tactical troops motivated to become revenue Nazis by changing radio call signs to:
1861 A
1861 N
1861 O
1861 V
And so forth and so on.
You're welcome, McStupidIdeaOfTheWeek.
Fucking Asshat.
Rumor #1 is true! Heard downtown wants ALL GPS locations for all cars that night when this happened. Investigation is just starting....
Gmac is really starting to sound like a goof. He doesn't know which way to go. Once the tact teams start writing ANOV's instead of physical arrests Mcdumass will scream "where are my arrests?" He is in such a panic because his term as Supt. is so poor that he's losing his mind. Hey Mcdummie, ANOV's do nothing and no one pays and nothing happens. Also, when you act like such a tough guy at Comstat everyone is laughing at you.
Officers... use you head with these contact cards. Lawsiits are being filed accross the country on them. Know what you're doing
How can he expect the guys to go out there and produce when the bosses are denying them almost every day off they request. That doesn't make for very happy gung ho po po.
NO ACTIVITY.
I've been advocating this ever since we got our 2% raise.
And, again: for all you old-timers that are inevitably going to preach your, "when I was on the job, blah, blah blah, blah blah...", mind your own damned business. These are different times, you're not here and we don't need your opinions.
Rumor #1 100% true. I a team member. Investigation and pep talk has already begun by those with exempt status. The Commander at least is 100% behind the troops.
At roll call Friday, the Lt. said that the D/C was at Compstat Thursday, and took heat for not enough contact cards on the beats. You could come in with 5 cards, but if you work XX33, and your cards were written on beat XX32, it won't matter because they're not from your beat. It doesn't matter that you wrote those cards when you had to handle a call on 32's beat because they were on something else at the time. You didn't do anything on YOUR beat. Don't jeopardize your job with a Rule 14 violation by changing an address or location to make it your beat. In this day and age, with GPS, cell phone cameras, video surveillance at businesses, and this Department ready to jam you up at the drop of a hat, it just isn't worth it. Not to mention, having a reason to stop someone would probably help. He wants ANOV's too? Pissers and drinkers? Hey Garr, it's January. Not as many drinkers out there when it's 15 degrees outside. This guy isn't fit to lead a Cub Scout troop, let alone a major, metropolitan police department. What are you gonna do to me?Take me off my car. I'm a bid spot on afternoons. I'm not gonna fabricate stuff for the stats sheet .
Hand in 10 blank contact cards with 'REFUSED' on them.
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That's nice, in theory, but contact cards are automated now.
what's the rumor on swiping?
is it coming and when?
Fuck this guy, as well as the asshole LT on 2nd watch in 011 (who I think may actually be a Mini Me of McDumbass).
Out of the car, for lunch, personals and jobs.
That's it!
Fuck You Garry!
I won't be the next poster child of the two tier system of discipline!
I would loved to hear the ACLU's position on Garry's orders to violate civil rights.
Federal court is no fun!
Don't let Gary put you in the trickbag!
#2 is entirely accurate. I was at the CompStat meeting and heard it from the Supt. as well. However, he also referred very generically to an impending ordinance change that will somehow put more consequence to failing to show for ANOV hearing, though no detail whatsoever was given. I'll believe it when I see it...
He does realize that dude in the ghetto usually does not carry an id with him most of the time right?
"Oh yes master, I will do whatever you say. I need to keep my tactical unit spot. So yes master I will give you contact cards, anov's and whatever else you want."
And this is the mentality of some p.o.'s and why we are in the predicament that we are in. I don't owe anything to anybody and it feels great. I come in and do my job and I get to sleep well at night.
Hahahahahahha....ok. Next.
Seriously? You want an Honorable for a tagger? Quit your crying and do your job. I know the command of this department sucks, but you still have a job to do, and sometimes you won't get a pat on the back. Sorry to break the news to you Francis.
RE: #2 ---
Attend any of these compost meetings and you will routinely hear two contradictions. First is "We need to be doing things smarter/The compstat process is all about intelligent policing/It's about having the right people at the right time in the right places for the right reasons/It's QUALITY instead of quantity" followed almost immediately with "Let's look at your numbers: ANOVS are down. Contact cards are down. Arrests are down. Now is the time to get rid of your people who are 'underperforming'; get rid of them now and replace them."
So, which is it you ask? Is it 'quality over quantity' or is it 'go out and get MORE activity across the board or dump people'? Why it's both! Remember that when you are sitting through your mandatory Legitimacy and Procedural Justice "training." Stop and listen to the other side to build your legitimacy, then consistently write every motherfucker you can stop and listen too in order to create the needed numbers in activity in Procedural Justice
Just a thought: In more cases than not, stopping someone to get contact card info is probably unconstitutional, although most are too scared to just say, No.
You have to be kidding. Where am I going to find contact people in the middle of the winter? Also if I am out getting contact cards how do I patrol? Can a White Shirt please help m here. I am confused.
Hey Goof Mc Stoopid!
Are you gonna be with us in Federal Court getting sued for Civil rights violations for stopping people for marginal reason if for no reason at all, just for your numbers game!
Some how I don't thinks so!
So I say to you Supt. Mc Carthy!
Go FUCK YOURSELF! and Your Anov and Contact cards!
Da Pelon
Screw Him!
Where theres smoke, there is also a Fire!
Quoted: from a Fireman
SCC, in a northside district on 1st watch the XO is sending her sgt emails complaining about activity. She has the DSS pulling midnight cars in one by one and telling them they must write 3 contact cards, 5 Parker's and a mover everyday or else. In fact the cool aid drinking sgt are supporting the XO and also warning the troops about what will happen if they bring in no activity. When did quotas return?
Was told by my Sgt that as of Friday, if an arrest is made of an ANOV offense, a Sgt must be on scene and also submit a To/From as to why an ANOV was not issued. I assume this is in response to embarrassing low number of ANOVs issue is for cannabis, that was goin to bring in $7million.
I'm not sure about other districts but in the 9th district dedicated hard working officers get punished. The new commander has no idea what he inherited, he really needs to start asking some questions and take a hard look at whats going on especially with the mess that was created on 3rd watch. If you don't think it's a mess compare numbers of the officers over the last 2 years and look at the significant decline not to mention units from organized crime, saturation and violent reduction overtime officers have all been deployed to 009 in order to hold down the fort. Remember just like in sports.. when your team is not performing and winning sometimes it's time for the manager to go.
Yes- he tried to SPAR an officer on a foot post in 003 for passing out in a heatwave, inattention to duty. Priceless.
There will always be hair gels, phoney tans and muscle bound Tac Guys willing to do whatever they are told to avoid wearing that uniform, or working 3rd Watch or Midnights. "Iz dis enuff boss? If not, we still got an hour on da klock, an wil jus go back out."
019 Tac Spl Bicycle, Foot Teams
The most obvious problem with setting a "quota" for contact cards is that they are only supposed to be written after you stop someone who you reasonably suspect has committed or is about to commit a crime. Meaning? You can't stop Bobo just cuz you felt like it or someone threatened you to do it.
In 20 the day LT gets daily emails from TRAHANIS on who is not writing contact cards and are being told to take action on these officers. No action as yet, but LT M.B. says you will be dumped from your beatcar.
Wasn't the crystal ball unit tasked with recognizing and "preventing" these types of incidents? How many "spars" did they collect?
I went through a roof once. No fun whatsoever.
ANOV'S are administrative and what I was told by the lawyers down there a few years ago is that the worst that can happen to someone who does not show up is get dinged on your credit as a collections and that is if the city pursues it. This may have changed in the last several years and if it has I can't imagine that many warrants being issued it takes a lot for a judge in branch court to issue a warrant do you think some lawyer/hearing officer will at ANOV court.
First of all, GmacWhiskeyBreathWifeBeater can kiss my hairy ass.
Second, you have to be soft as puppy shit to want to be on a tact team now. You want me to generate numbers for you while you rotate my shifts and screw up my health? Fuck you.
And C, you can't force people to be on a tact team. I know there are shallow ego kids out there that feel the need to wear jeans and a backward ball cap to feel like they're bad ass cops, so they can have that shit job while I'm sipping on a coffee with my shoes off between coding out bullshit calls that bother me when they come in on the radio.
You got that, you carpetbagger mother fucker? Good. Now gargle my hairy sack you piece of liberal shit. And while you're at it, go fetch your shine box.
I guess its time to grab the ol phone book. Btw the numbers manipulation has started in theD unit. Tremendous pressure, because stating the truth at comstat means you get belittled and threatened.
You cant fix stupid.
McOutOfIdeas is desperate and full of shit.
The little birds have been chirping about how he has conceded the fact that 011, 007 and a couple other garden spots of the city have been lost.
Yes lost... As in overrun... Broken Arrow and all that jazz.
The kicker is he blames The Police so he wants to institute a scorched earth discipline & quota policy.
This so called superintendent has declared war against his own department.
Some really fucked-up shit must have been happening in the McCarthy household while Garry was growing up.
Same thing in the Emanuel household with the addition of some really foul ideas being openly expressed at the dinner table...
Overall? We see nothing that The Patrolman has/hasn't done to be worthy of being doubly afflicted with these two.
Other than possibly being thought of as the core of a movement to push back against the fuckery of the criminal-political media cabal.
Why is destroying CPD so IMPORTANT and such a HIGH PRIORITY to so many people?
Would 016 (NW end) be held to the same "Michigan Ave" standards?
Or does the 41st Ward Alderman think there's enough protection up here?
I have a can of semi gloss white for my garage door waiting, but I shouldn't expect an ET or a beat car for a report...right?
I have family on the job,and just a question, aunt and I flew in to Midway airport, aunt has heart condition felt pressure,they called the Chicago fire dept,we land the fire dept was top notch, checked everything then another guy with a department of aviation police patch took aunts drivers license, and wrote a report then a Chicago police officer came took drives license and made a contact card! Are hese contact cards held in a data base for criminal checks? Why if someone gets sick does the fire department,the aviation police and Chicago police make reports? I hope my elderly aunt is not penalized for being sick!
I feel for you guys. All of the BS that came from New York. Fuck, I would not want to work for this guy and downtown has you by the nuts. Get your pensions and get the fuck out. SPAR'D, what bullshit! Where was McDrunken On Rahm Semen's car?
there is not much you can do as a practical matter to enforcing minor violations of the law. the people committing the offenses have no money to pay the fines, and the cost to go after them would be insane. there is no space in the jails to house them so the judges would be forced to just let them loose.
at some point you have to come up with a strategy that acknowledges the bare minimum resources available and deal with it rather than pretending a return to the days of all but infinite resources.
the amount of resources available for policing, corrections, and the rest of the criminal justice industry is going to shrink over the next few decades and somehow that fact has to be part of the mix of the strategy that gets developed.
not a cop.
I was the original poster of #2. Unfortunately, I have to sit through this bullshit when Area North is up. All of it is true. Except I forgot he wants ANOV's written for pot too. He reamed a commander (I think of 014), saying, "You mean to tell me out of all the traffic stops that were made in your district, your officers didn't find any marijuana? They didn't write any ANOV's?"
Compstat Charlie also was pissed off that some of the beats who came in with 19 (or more in some cases) (who ARE these idiots?) didn't write all of those contact cards ON THEIR OWN BEAT. Even if 50% or more WERE written on their beat, he was still pissed off.
McIdiot told the commanders they better have the troops writing more contact cards and ANOV's. He didn't say how to motivate the troops to do more, he just told them TO DO IT.
I don't know when blue shirts will get it through their heads that this PRIMO ASSHOLE does NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOU! You are simply tools to him, to give him the numbers he wants.
He also said most robberies are what lead to shootings.
Every time I leave one of those things I have to take a couple of aspirin. Maybe I should start taking them beforehand.
This is what Rahm wants..
Anonymous said...
what's the rumor on swiping?
is it coming and when?
1/20/2013 02:50:00 AM
Feb. 3. And there won't be anymore timekeepers. I'm just wondering how you are going to be able to choose time or money?
How do you replace tact teams? I'm on tact in Public Trans and I can't even get dumped because no one else wants it.
This job is starting to be a joke.
1/20/2013 12:10:00 AM
Starting? Have you been in a coma since Y2K?
even in some of the biggest dog ass districts, there are times when there is absolutely nothing going on, so now PO's have to stop people who aren't breaking the law, not doing anything wrong to fill out a contact card just because they are outside on the publicway.....I see something so very wrong with this
This has that cancer Sarlito "I'm a lawyer " all over it. She could goof up a one car funeral. Those jokes? They're terrible!
Heh...
Are we seeing the beginning of the end for McOuttaIdeas?
Scene: A bunker in Berlin. 30 April 1945
Or behind locked doors at the executive suites at HQ?
*Pop!*
>Der Fuhrer Ist Tot! Lang Lebe Der Fuhrer!<
Heh... Heh-heh...
Maybe he'll start having exempts shot for failing to prove their love and loyalty to him?
Or better still, shoot themselves to prove their love and loyalty?
>Don't you love me? Yes superintendent,I love you. Shoot yourself to prove it...<
*Pop!*
>Snicker!<
The choo-choo train of sanity gone clean off the rails...
His loyal New York Schutzstaffel stand by to obediently execute his orders no matter how illegal, foul or immoral.
Bunch of knee-walking enablers for a Fucking Megalomaniac!
When you busters finally get run back to New Yuck, don't forget to roll up McFuckedUpEverythingHeTouched in that rug and take him with you.
P.S. Cut the patches and insignia off those CPD leathers and go have a good cry with j-fled about how those "out of control" Chicago Coppers fucked up your "plans."
If they manage to piss off the current tac people they will have a great deal of difficulty replaceing them.
NO ACTIVITY.
I've been advocating this ever since we got our 2% raise.
And, again: for all you old-timers that are inevitably going to preach your, "when I was on the job, blah, blah blah, blah blah...", mind your own damned business. These are different times, you're not here and we don't need your opinions.
1/20/2013 02:04:00 AM
The department heard you! But, they ignored you because they knew you weren't going to do shit anyway.
Uh an honorable mention for that....get real. U must have been one of those guys that got sent to 018 or 020 when you were a ppo and never left. I just cant stop laughing oh thanks for that.
Anonymous said...
what's the rumor on swiping?
is it coming and when?
1/20/2013 02:50:00 AM
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http://youtu.be/AarHxXD_vKY
Beware of McCarthy's bullshit about contact cards!
It won't be McCarthy sitting in the fucking chair at Federal Court.
ONLY POLICEMEN!
If the system were untainted and McCarthy was in the SAME amount of financial, legal and career danger he's intentionally putting Policemen in, he WOULD NOT be pushing this shit!
The Feds are going to fuck coppers in EVERY PLACE this clown hung his hat.
This shit is a set-up to get hundreds if not thousands of Coppers off the payroll.
Why is it so important for these people to destroy CPD?
In this day and age, I don't see anything appropriate about writing contact cards just to write them.
Just remember, every contact card you write has your name on it. And if someone wants to file a beef because you stopped them and demanded they provide i.d. for no reason, it's going to be YOU explaining why, not Garry, or your bosses, or anyone else.
I'd rather sleep well at night. And as far as having to do them to work special, someone should file a suit. I'd rather cut my spending than be a part of a quota system, even though it hasn't been labeled as such. It is.
What if you or your kid were stopped by a copper just because you were standing on a corner?
Fuck Garry and his demand for more ANOV's and contact cards. He's using you. At least for the next month, or couple of weeks until the next Compstat meeting, nobody should write a single one of either.
The problem is that the blue shirts DO have the power to bring Garry to his knees. You guys just don't realize it and you won't stick together.
Um, shouldn't the arresting officer instead get credit for preventing more tagging?
Garry, let me tell you this in the best New York way I can, fuck-off.
To you media trolls who do not do your job and report McBrewery booz'n and chas'n women on the near Northside, go fuck yourselves, too.
McBrewery does not know how to run a big city police department. He is getting desperate and coming up with ridiculous ideas that will not do anything to lower crime.
Too bad there are not enough police officers for every corner of the city. of course we are lucky we have enough to cover a watch. I thought the cameras were supposed to be the solution. All that Daley money going to waste along with all the other huge mistakes...parking meters for one.
ATTN: PPO's, if you read scc, please pay special attention to all that is said here. Even someone with 5 years on this job sees a sad and dramatic change in this dept. keep your mouth shut and ears open. It sucks, but this is not what it used to be. The officers on this job are now in survival mode, have been for about 3 years. Mouth shut, ears open.
Anyone disciplined for not preventing the shooting outside the East Bank Club?
How about for not preventing the shooting INSIDE the Palmer House?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-man-25-shot-on-22nd-floor-of-loop-hotel-20130120,0,4311084.story
"Police said no suspects were in custody and that the [victim] was not cooperating fully with detectives.
"Everyone involved knew each other, according to police. Police were not sure what lead [sic] to the shooting because the individuals involved were not cooperating with police..."
"occupy" checks in with some important advice --
"Officers... use you [sic] head with these contact cards. Lawsiits [sic] are being filed accross [sic] the country on them [sic]."
1/20/2013 01:08:00 AM
huh
"Know what you're doing."
huh
In 20 the sgts. have u write a contactcard on the store owner whos alarm goes off and victims,sure thats what they were ment for.
To 2:04 AM. U should quit job son and get a new career. U sound very disgruntled. Know you wont get pension you were promised when you came one a few yrs ago and you will pay out the butt for health insurance for yourself and family-if you have one. Medicaid-I mean Obamacare-will be your option. Again seems you hate the job and all retired guys and gals or those with enough sense to retire now while they can before the roof collapses. If they dont well too fuckin bad. Retired 4 months ago after 31 yrs. At least I had a great time and a million laughs workin in the shit with my brothers and sisters. GOOD LUCK MY BRO. Think you will need more than luck unfortunately.
I wonder why the sgts and lts are so scared shitless of Trahanas??? They talk tuff to the p.o.'s.
Anonymous said...
ANOV'S are administrative and what I was told by the lawyers down there a few years ago is that the worst that can happen to someone who does not show up is get dinged on your credit as a collections and that is if the city pursues it. This may have changed in the last several years and if it has I can't imagine that many warrants being issued it takes a lot for a judge in branch court to issue a warrant do you think some lawyer/hearing officer will at ANOV court.
1/20/2013 10:23:00 AM
McBully stated several times in the last Compstat circus that he is CHANGING the city code re: ANOV's. He did not elaborate. It sounds like he plans to turn a civil violation into a criminal violation. And since I'm not a lawyer, I don't know whether that is possible. To me it sounds like if that's the case, then you can be locked up for not paying your library fines.
I thought every criminal act had to have intent, furtherance, etc.
I remember mandatory curfewa..."Miguel Raton" had hundreds, they wanted to jail his parents. He also attended the Disney Magnet School.
To 12:10 PM. What are you talkin about. Retired egotistical narrcistic IDIOT sgt R Miz made a fuckin career out of arresting students entering a CTA bus thru back door at school dismissal and some drunk "trying" to jump a turnstile in the subway before landing on his face cause he was so drunk. Super cop Bob M spent his PO career in Mass Transit then became a BS sgt in 001 testicle sgt. Dint know 001 had a tac team. Guess all knowing dickhead blinky retired. What an idiot. Move on
McNoClue also brought up the store where he allegedly recovered a gun from, giving the commander shit about not shutting them down. McStupid went on about how the store was cooperative when he recovered the gun. Why didn't he do contact cards? Why didn't he send a building inspector over there to see if there were code violations?
I was dumbfounded he brought that up. I think he might have been massaging his balls or his dick while he was talking, because I think believing his own bullshit actually gives him a hard on.
If blue shirts across the city stopped writing contact cards and ANOV's. even if only for a week, it would show McAsshole that you CAN band together and force him to treat you better. Just a week. Nada.
Anonymous said...
even in some of the biggest dog ass districts, there are times when there is absolutely nothing going on, so now PO's have to stop people who aren't breaking the law, not doing anything wrong to fill out a contact card just because they are outside on the publicway.....I see something so very wrong with this
1/20/2013 12:18:00 PM
No shit! It's called a civil rights violation.
Quick story. Live in Mt.Greenwood and last Fall was outside the"crib" raking leaves. I am recently retired CPD. Neighbor came over with 2 beers and said take a break. We were BS ing having a cold one on my front lawn when 3rd wath 022 District heroes pull up. The 2 kids gets out of the car and walks up to us-both tac boys with the baseball caps backwords. One of the mopes said, "We,re police. What are you doing?" Told tuff guy Raking leaves. He said you guys are drinking outside. I need some ID. and sport pulls out paper to write our info down. Told him to get the fuck away from me or his card will be in his ear. His partner ran back to car and jr said I'll be back. Still waitin for Puddin. Thats 022. Neighbor laughed his ass off and said this is what U worked with. Said NO did his momma before the daddy did. Good ole days. Say Hi to mom precious. And aint cool with cap backwards son.
So, Compstat complains and bitches about contact cards been written and that we have to exclusively do them in our beats. So, we are doing activity, but that is NOT good enough and they assume that we are running wild in beats. wtf!!? At least we got activity and it's BS. I guess, they have to justify being scared of the job and hiding in HQ. It's time to throw them out to do some work and then they can write the contact cards however they F-en want!!! Oh wait, they never did real police work anyways.
Why is it so important for these people to destroy CPD?
1/20/2013 12:54:00 PM
not enough quislings.
yet.
The department heard you! But, they ignored you because they knew you weren't going to do shit anyway.
1/20/2013 12:48:00 PM
so, you speak for 'the department', do you?
Hey 10:39 AM. You are evidently a child on the job complaining about changing your watch. And telling all to kiss your hairy ass while you worry about your health. Hey junior we all used to change watches every 28 days-comaraderie-but you don't know that Back to school that mom and dad paid for FOOL.
....I see something so very wrong with this
1/20/2013 12:18:00 PM
than don't do it.
the amount of resources available for policing, corrections, and the rest of the criminal justice industry is going to shrink over the next few decades and somehow that fact has to be part of the mix of the strategy that gets developed.
not a cop.
1/20/2013 11:54:00 AM
ccw for everyone.
then let the shits fall where they may.
Chalkie
Where was McDrunken On Rahm Semen's car?
1/20/2013 11:46:00 AM
the new kool-aid flavor?
Anonymous said...
I have family on the job,and just a question, aunt and I flew in to Midway airport, aunt has heart condition felt pressure,they called the Chicago fire dept,we land the fire dept was top notch, checked everything then another guy with a department of aviation police patch took aunts drivers license, and wrote a report then a Chicago police officer came took drives license and made a contact card! Are hese contact cards held in a data base for criminal checks? Why if someone gets sick does the fire department,the aviation police and Chicago police make reports? I hope my elderly aunt is not penalized for being sick!
1/20/2013 11:39:00 AM
I work at Ohare only we don't contact card sick people that was done at midway from the micro manager lt that just retired that is ridiculous and plain wrong!
When did quotas return?
1/20/2013 08:21:00 AM
when did they ever depart?
You have to be kidding. Where am I going to find contact people in the middle of the winter? Also if I am out getting contact cards how do I patrol? Can a White Shirt please help m here. I am confused.
1/20/2013 07:44:00 AM
Contact card all ur bogus Dombatt victims and tell them that incident is on record now. Your not supposed to patrol, your supposed to make the city revenue. (Insert sarcasm here)
Sorry to break the news to you Francis.
1/20/2013 07:28:00 AM
That's okay, Chumley.
And, by the way, I doubt that you're sorry.
And, yes, I am questioning your veracity.
OT:
Classic,
Cops: Harold Washington statue damaged at South Side cultural center
"Police are looking for the people responsible for damaging and stealing a portion of a statue of late Chicago Mayor Harold Washington on the South Side.
A front panel which contained a metal description of the late mayor was removed and stolen from the pedestal below the statue, according to a community alert issued by police."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cops-harold-washington-statue-damaged-at-south-side-cultural-center-20130120,0,2276671.story
SCREW THE STATUE!!
What is wrong with these people?
You got mass murders going on here every eff-ing week and how many thousands of dollars are we gonna blow on some symbolic homage to an ex-politician?
Take the damn thing down. You act like it's more important than the citizens of this town. It's sick.
Feb. 3. And there won't be anymore timekeepers. I'm just wondering how you are going to be able to choose time or money?
1/20/2013 12:09:00 PM
Maybe try checking the time or money box on the slip
You can create a distraction from the 500+ homicides if you have anov's stacked to the ceiling.
PLUS, it creates a sense of accomplishment to some.
They can't catch the murderers and the burglars but boy-oh-boy look at that stack of piss bums that was written up ya know? (the mentally ill piss bums that Rahm put on the streets with the shutting down of local mental health care facilities)
Take the departments failures out on the piss bums so that the stars can feel superior and a sense of self-worth.
What can they do to me I'm already as low as you can get if my activity is low so what!. We all know that the mayor hates the police department why do anythings.
Too bad there are not enough police officers for every corner of the city. of course we are lucky we have enough to cover a watch. I thought the cameras were supposed to be the solution. All that Daley money going to waste along with all the other huge mistakes...parking meters for one.
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Yep story after story with glorified projections about we're gonna do this and gonna do that and how it's gonna save us.
Case in point. The million dollar Violence Interrupters? Where are they? You mean they were not even at the basketball game the other night?
Case in point. The pot ticket ordinance that will pull in an additional $7 MILLION DOLLARS and FREE UP BEAT COPS SO THAT MORE OF THEM ARE ON THE STREETS.
(Net results: projections are about 1/4 million additional dollars. 3% of the projected value. So you can judge for yourself how inflated those numbers were and the impact of putting more cops on the beat)
Case in point. Allowing the state lottery to sell tickets is going to generate millions of dollars. I forget the exact numbers but if you google it you're are going to find that on-line sales of Illinois lottery tickets came in at about 2~3% of projections.
Some of the things money is being blown on don't even come with an ROI prediction. Anyone seen the projected Return-On-Investment for Maggie park?
A honorable mention for a damage to property arrest, come on. I realize it is 018 so crime is hard to come by and all but come on. What's next a DC for exceptional Parkers written
Anonymous said...
If they manage to piss off the current tac people they will have a great deal of difficulty replaceing them.
1/20/2013 12:43:00 PM
Wrong. There's always someone who wants to do the plainclothes thing or maybe as a way to get off midnites. At least you work somewhat "normal" hours half the year on days where you can eat dinner as a family and tuck your kids in at night.
The homeless street people - coming soon in a district near you - seeking shelter from the cold.
Brilliant ain't it?
In the middle of a flu epidemic and we're going to expose all our first responders.
You can bet money that Rahm will not be there for a photo opt.
011 Dist 2nd watch Lt has his own plan of attack!
With the start of the 1st period LT JA has decided to "Shake the Tree" and shuffle just about everyone's start time and cars.
He Routinely calls in officers and has a "closed door" meeting (berating and beheading) with them and THREATENS them with taking them off thier car or constantly chanigng their start time and/or constatnly shuffling them from one sector to another.
He even told one officer that "all you are qualified to do is drive a garbage truck"!
He has even taken it upon himself to reinstate to position of "Desk Sergeant" as he is far to busy with personal issues to do the job he is paid for.
If he beleives that by threatening officers, verbally abusing them with profanity and derogatory comments that he will get any of us to produce more contact cards and anovs, then he can beleive that. But, in reality it has having the reverse effect.
At the last comstat(drunk new yorkers) meeting Commander Washington himself was verbally abused by GMAC and his New York twits because the 011 District was leading the city with homicides! Yeah were #1!!! More specifically that shootings and homicides were up on 2nd watch
He was also told that the 011 district was behind in contact cards as compared to adjacent districts.
Well Commander.
If you want more contact cards, anovs, movers, parkers and arrest.
Get rid of the 2nd watch LT.
The numbers will improve overnight.
He and he alone is the reason for the poor morale on 2nd watch!
Hill Street Blues this aint
To the douche who posted at 1/20/2013 07:28:00 AM
I know you have 3 years on the job and know everything but... First off honorables are a joke, for years most guys wrote their own. Second in a district like 18 where people actually care about their properties and appreciate the opportunity to recoup some of the money spent on power washing an redoing the tuckpointing it is an important arrest.
How important is it for you to lock up a human turd with a gun who tries to put holes in other human turds? Congrats! You locked the guy up and gave Ceasefire an opp to claim it was their intel, you gave Gerry an opp to get some good press and you gave the ghetto lottery another winner cause no doubt a vulture lawyer will sue and the city will settle. So, congrats hero. You made the city a little better place today.
All he has to do is make that the quota to work any overtime. You idiots will be falling over each other to give the supt. his contact, so shortsighted
Is the Superintendent subject to random alcohol testing? Notify the press next time his number comes up..
The demand for contact cards has always puzzled me, and I can't believe Loevey hasn't jumped on this. Stopping innocent people walking down the street and documenting who they are and where they are just for the sake of activity? That sounds awfully close to Nazi activity. "Vere are your papers?!?!?!?!?"
Any copper who even thinks of falsifying one of these hard-on inducing cards should turn in their star and volunteer for a psyche evaluation immediately!
Anonymous said...
Seriously? You want an Honorable for a tagger? Quit your crying and do your job. I know the command of this department sucks, but you still have a job to do, and sometimes you won't get a pat on the back. Sorry to break the news to you Francis.
1/20/2013 07:28:00 AM
When's the last time you got felony approval on a tagger? It was a good grab, good follow-up investigation, and good documentation.
"Oh yes master, I will do whatever you say. I need to keep my tactical unit spot. So yes master I will give you contact cards, anov's and whatever else you want."
And this is the mentality of some p.o.'s and why we are in the predicament that we are in. I don't owe anything to anybody and it feels great. I come in and do my job and I get to sleep well at night.
1/20/2013 06:08:00 AM
Sounds to me like you're NOT doing your job
If they manage to piss off the current tac people they will have a great deal of difficulty replaceing them.
1/20/2013 12:43:00 PM
Tact people work because they want to but if GMAc is going to belittle them they will stop and truth be told, Tact accounts for about 1/2 of the total district activity (BS or not)
On contact cards being written to satisfy the commander, you should write on the last line the following:This contact card is # 2 of 5 directed by my supervisor Sgt or Lt ________. I can be disciplined if I do not comply.
Person who write swiping 3 Feb is wrong and there will be timekeepers. Hate when people post shit they know nothing about. It's delayed for a bit
Anonymous said...
This has that cancer Sarlito "I'm a lawyer " all over it. She could goof up a one car funeral. Those jokes? They're terrible!
1/20/2013 12:27:00 PM
She's STILL on the job???
Sounds to me like you're NOT doing your job
1/20/2013 08:55:00 PM
sounds to me like you're a hand job.
When's the last time you got felony approval on a tagger? It was a good grab, good follow-up investigation, and good documentation.
1/20/2013 08:16:00 PM
You're right! They are really going to throw the book at this guy for the good follow up investigation. What type of investigation does this entail? Right. Not a whole lot! Stop crying that you won't be one honorable closer to a ribbon D-Bag! Obviously you have never worked in a fast district in your 5 year career. You would understand that sometimes you don't get recognized for doing what you should be doing.
Quick story. Live in Mt.Greenwood and last Fall was outside the"crib" raking leaves. I am recently retired CPD. Neighbor came over with 2 beers and said take a break. We were BS ing having a cold one on my front lawn when 3rd wath 022 District heroes pull up. The 2 kids gets out of the car and walks up to us-both tac boys with the baseball caps backwords. One of the mopes said, "We,re police. What are you doing?" Told tuff guy Raking leaves. He said you guys are drinking outside. I need some ID. and sport pulls out paper to write our info down. Told him to get the fuck away from me or his card will be in his ear. His partner ran back to car and jr said I'll be back. Still waitin for Puddin. Thats 022. Neighbor laughed his ass off and said this is what U worked with. Said NO did his momma before the daddy did. Good ole days. Say Hi to mom precious. And aint cool with cap backwards son.
1/20/2013 04:12:00 PM
Sounds like your still finishing your beers
Hi People, Missy here.
I am madder then a duck out of water people. I was told that if I can writes 60 to 100 parkers a day then I can write five contact cards a day. No way Jose I told this grease on his white shirt Lt.
I am the parking guru and do the work of 5 police officer who will not help the mayor with revenue. This is the tANKS I get. I am going to see our mayor while I am working and tell him about this Lt.
The mayor knows I raise a lot revenue and will step on some toes to what this Lt did to me.
The tac team sit around in 01 and drink coffee and eat-eat-eat all day. I thinks these boys and girls should do some work. I see their unmarked cars that has a inch of dirt on them from not being moved. Well slug-o, I might write them a parker for not moving a vehicle for months. I know one tac card that has not moved since last July and has a load of refuse under it. I will tell all to Mr. Mayor when I see him Tuesday.
I am off today holiday Monday to watch our great president get sworn in. But I will double my amount of parkers on Tuesday.
My friend Ruthie in 18 is a guru too and was told to write a anov whatever that is, Ruthie said she does never see AVON ladies in 18 and would never write the avon name on some postcard.
All you people be happy Monday and have a swell day.
Missy
Parking ticket guru o1.
To:
1/20/2013 03:44:00 PM
Sounds quite personal. I just wrote a long post and erased it. I decided you're not worth my response, because even if you don't like him, I have never heard anyone say he wasn't the real police! Oh and thanks for the insult to my former tact team!
Retired
It's high time somebody flushed McFailure and his fucked up Compstat down the toilet.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A honorable mention for a damage to property arrest, come on. I realize it is 018 so crime is hard to come by and all but come on. What's next a DC for exceptional Parkers written
1/20/2013 05:55:00 PM
Really, yeah crime is really hard to find anywhere downtown? Are you one of those coppers that have never been downtown? I suppose when the police memorial was tagged that was just a d to p too. These are not cases of someone tagging a garage door. This is thousands and thousands of dollars of damage to buildings that are defaced and sometimes never even reparable. And then try to get the felony approved, yeah with a written estimate of repairs from building management that sometimes took weeks. Bad enough this city looks like a big ghetto, let's screw up downtown. I hated downtown taggers especially the scumbag college students. Excellent arrest!!
Now for "The Late Night Sarcasm"
I am so glad this officer let me know that there is no longer crime in 018 and probably in 001 any longer. Things sure changed since I retired 2 years ago!
mous said...
I have family on the job,and just a question, aunt and I flew in to Midway airport, aunt has heart condition felt pressure,they called the Chicago fire dept,we land the fire dept was top notch, checked everything then another guy with a department of aviation police patch took aunts drivers license, and wrote a report then a Chicago police officer came took drives license and made a contact card! Are hese contact cards held in a data base for criminal checks? Why if someone gets sick does the fire department,the aviation police and Chicago police make reports? I hope my elderly aunt is not penalized for being sick!
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you worry too much
Well Commander.
If you want more contact cards, anovs, movers, parkers and arrest.
Get rid of the 2nd watch LT.
The numbers will improve overnight.
He and he alone is the reason for the poor morale on 2nd watch!
1/20/2013 06:18:00 PM
You're missing the whole point. Why would you produce contact cards for the douche bag of a superintendent? Beyond what you think of JA, you shouldn't improve numbers for the number one jag at the top. He's using you and does not give a fuck if he puts you in a trick bag. Period. You are no more than pencils in a drawer to him!
Anonymous said...
Person who write swiping 3 Feb is wrong and there will be timekeepers. Hate when people post shit they know nothing about. It's delayed for a bit
1/20/2013 10:35:00 PM
Heard it from the timekeepers themselves. Sorry. You must have better information. Why has it been delayed?
The Song Remains The Same said...
Anonymous said...
If they manage to piss off the current tac people they will have a great deal of difficulty replaceing them.
1/20/2013 12:43:00 PM
Wrong. There's always someone who wants to do the plainclothes thing or maybe as a way to get off midnites. At least you work somewhat "normal" hours half the year on days where you can eat dinner as a family and tuck your kids in at night.
1/20/2013 06:02:00 PM
Wrong. McBubbles said because of the early a.m. robberies, and whenever other problems arise, to change the tac team's hours. Prepare to work whatever they want you to work, with little to no notice.
Anonymous said...
Feb. 3. And there won't be anymore timekeepers. I'm just wondering how you are going to be able to choose time or money?
1/20/2013 12:09:00 PM
Maybe try checking the time or money box on the slip
1/20/2013 05:35:00 PM
There won't be slips.
NO ACTIVITY.
I've been advocating this ever since we got our 2% raise.
And, again: for all you old-timers that are inevitably going to preach your, "when I was on the job, blah, blah blah, blah blah...", mind your own damned business. These are different times, you're not here and we don't need your opinions.
Yes the times are different but the game is the same. Do you honestly think this is the first time the the CPD has gone through crap like this?
I've seen many P.O.'s talk shit about partners and bosses but that usually is when the intended target is not around to defend themselves. And I have seen plenty of fellow officers talk shit but immediately drop down to both knees and start kissing the bosses ass when there is even a hint that they are about to be dumped.
So keep talking trash officer. Your spineless kind has always been around and will always be around.
Now go do the lunch run for the desk
Anonymous said...
Hand in 10 blank contact cards with 'REFUSED' on them.
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That's nice, in theory, but contact cards are automated now.
1/20/2013 02:27:00 AM
Then type in "Refused."
Is there a G.O. on writing contact cards? Guidelines? Is the purpose for the written out anywhere? Just askin'.
Anonymous said...
even in some of the biggest dog ass districts, there are times when there is absolutely nothing going on, so now PO's have to stop people who aren't breaking the law, not doing anything wrong to fill out a contact card just because they are outside on the publicway.....I see something so very wrong with this
1/20/2013 12:18:00 PM
PO's do not have to stop anybody, first of all. Don't do contact cards, that's all!
Excessive alcohol causes brain damage.
Last week several Beat officers were called into the Commanders Office about the percentage of contact cards written off their Beats. The Officers stated that these contact cards stemmed from jobs that they were given by dispatch off their respective beats and that by G.O. a contact card was required. Her response was for the officers to put their names in the narrative and put the regular Beat Officers in the appropriate box so as to show that they were written by the adtual beat Officer.
The union reps should all be present at these comstat meetings to verify and contest the legalities of some of his statements, that's what union dies is for. Time to stop this bullshit.
just to clarify..
We dont want an honorable for locking this guy up, we want honorables everytime theres no crime on mich. ave.
just to clarify..
We dont want an honorable for locking this guy up, we want honorables everytime theres no crime on mich. ave.
1/21/2013 02:23:00 PM
so, what you're saying is, you don't ever want an honorable.
would an attaboy luther, suffice?
Her response was for the officers to put their names in the narrative and put the regular Beat Officers in the appropriate box so as to show that they were written by the adtual beat Officer.
1/21/2013 09:33:00 AM
in other words, to lie.
Last week several Beat officers were called into the Commanders Office about the percentage of contact cards written off their Beats. The Officers stated that these contact cards stemmed from jobs that they were given by dispatch off their respective beats and that by G.O. a contact card was required. Her response was for the officers to put their names in the narrative and put the regular Beat Officers in the appropriate box so as to show that they were written by the adtual beat Officer.
1/21/2013 09:33:00 AM
wouldnt be smart putting someone elses name in the report I wouldnt want anyone else to put my name on a card if I didnt write it and if I wasn't there. If a CR comes down, whos going to get it
Anonymous said...
Feb. 3. And there won't be anymore timekeepers. I'm just wondering how you are going to be able to choose time or money?
1/20/2013 12:09:00 PM
Maybe try checking the time or money box on the slip
1/20/2013 05:35:00 PM
There won't be slips.
There will always be slips. There has to be a paper trail, otherwise a computer could be compromised and alot of time stolen.
Contact cards are a nice tool for the dicks. With the proper information including clothing desc, tattoos, subjects stopped with, gang info, and vehicle info these can be very helpful. I have personally used contact card info numerous times which have assisted in several decent cases.
This is not a bull shit 35th street con job, but I am a working detective and these things really help.
If you stop a jag off just take the 5 minutes to jot down the info on a card. Use discretion and don't let the bosses make you write them just to waste time.
016 let's enforce the zero tolerance with the shitbirds. They have invaded and appear to be way too comfortable walking down the streets unchallenged. Time to send these dogs back to 015.
Anonymous said...
Contact cards are a nice tool for the dicks. With the proper information including clothing desc, tattoos, subjects stopped with, gang info, and vehicle info these can be very helpful. I have personally used contact card info numerous times which have assisted in several decent cases.
This is not a bull shit 35th street con job, but I am a working detective and these things really help.
If you stop a jag off just take the 5 minutes to jot down the info on a card. Use discretion and don't let the bosses make you write them just to waste time.
016 let's enforce the zero tolerance with the shitbirds. They have invaded and appear to be way too comfortable walking down the streets unchallenged. Time to send these dogs back to 015.
1/21/2013 10:32:00 PM
Solve your crimes another way. Don't burden the beat coppers with this bullshit--they're not worth giving McBubmler a hard-on....and when a lawsuit comes down, it'll come squarely down on the beat guy. Use other means. Or go out and do your own contact cards. I'm sure you can cut down your 3-4 hour lunches and spend some time on the streets instead of whining about the 50 cases you get a year in 016. And don't bullshit about how you're busy up there.
016 let's enforce the zero tolerance with the shitbirds. They have invaded and appear to be way too comfortable walking down the streets unchallenged. Time to send these dogs back to 015.
1/21/2013 10:32:00 PM
Since when is it ok to challenge someone walking down the street? How would you like it if some copper stopped YOU for walking down the street? Yeah, if some dude is looking in car windows, fine. If he's walking down the street doing nothing, what gives you the right to stop him, ask him for id, and ask him what he's doing?
If he's walking down the street doing nothing, what gives you the right to stop him, ask him for id, and ask him what he's doing?
1/22/2013 08:00:00 AM
pilgrams are never doing nothing.
Since when is it ok to challenge someone walking down the street? How would you like it if some copper stopped YOU for walking down the street? Yeah, if some dude is looking in car windows, fine. If he's walking down the street doing nothing, what gives you the right to stop him, ask him for id, and ask him what he's doing?
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Was just about to explain, but then realized...why? You will not get It, ever
sounds like he needs a day of legitimacy training.
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