56 FTO's
We got word from someone at the Academy that 56 FTO's showed up to take the classes. This is after 118 individuals were listed on the Personnel Order.
47%. Of course, that's pending completing the classes, graduating and accepting the assignment, something that caused half a class to quit a few years ago.
And how are the FTO's filling their time at the Academy?
They don't even have a curriculum for 40% of the time.
47%. Of course, that's pending completing the classes, graduating and accepting the assignment, something that caused half a class to quit a few years ago.
And how are the FTO's filling their time at the Academy?
They don't even have a curriculum for 40% of the time.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
90 Comments:
Wow, outside of Snelling (who is a merit hack) I have not heard of ANY of the other instructors.
That seems odd to me with almost 20 years on.
Have any of these instructors been the real police?? Been to 26th and Cal?? Been sued??
I think not.
And people wonder why this department is going down hill.
And please, do not comment that Snelling is a great guy. He is a merit hack, nothing more.
Imagine that!
A ship without a rudder. The Field Training Officer molds and guides a newly minted officer into a working copper in theory. If the FTO and the FTO program are shit, expect the next thirty years of coppers to be worth shit!
Not rocket science, I often wonder how I survived my Patrol Specialist.
I'm guessing that the "TBA" was really suppose to be "GTBA" but the type they used was to big to fit it all.
So what's GTBA? Gone To Buy Ammo I guess.
Looking at the ftos in 004 I just could not imagine signing up and becoming one of them. Recruits need to know how to cover their ass and work safely. Not to get free pop and wuss their way out of jobs. No wonder the new recruits are afraid of their shadow. I feel sorry for the new guys... But its not like things were any better 15 years ago. Who would sign up for this spot? No partner, no friends, no clue, no experience, no training, and just plain lazy. I had 5 different ftos and 2 of them were outstanding. To this day they save my ass with the things they taught me. The other three? I thought they were criminals, trying not to arrest or make a report. We are screwed. Go to 87/stony on midnights. You see them all there, all night, whole shift, not moving, and just clowning.
Welcome to the Gary Indiana Police Department! Actually, their homicide clearance rate is a little higher.
...Plus the classes that are listed are mostly bullshit. Verbal judo? Seriously?
What the hell is promotional drug screening? And three hours of Verbal judo, good grief!!! Turning down that "promotion" is probably the smartest thing I've ever done.
how about a class ofEVIDENCE TECHS?
"56 FTO's"
56 people without enough time to bid out of the ghetto on a monthly bid saw greener pastures - at first. They hadn't yet figured out that the Lion's Share of them would be sent to the ghetto anyway. Perhaps angling for a change of watch and scenery?
56 Dummies that that should've taken their cue from the other 62 that took the test and said "Fuck That Noise" when they actually ran the numbers and logistics involved and came up with the final product that had them on the losing end of the FTO equation.
And a tip for those in charge of this catastrophe of a program: the greener pasture has been revealed a mirage; expect more than a handful of these FTO's-in-training to decline the position at the conclusion of this 3 Week syllabus of "T.B.A.".
Ya see, "word on the skreet" is several plan to return to their current unit now that they realize that they don't have the seniority/juice to get one of the few spots in the more "desirable" training districts. They are enjoying this "training" as a three week vacation away from the daily grind of humping from job to job.
This is FACT, but you didn't hear it from me [wink, wink!].
why do we even have an FTO program. no one ever fails it. it appears that 99.9% of the people the city hires are qualified for the job.
Yep now there will be 90 FTOs wow still no D2A maybe we should not hire another detective class until this is worked out-wait at the union the FTOs were tole that the detectives were the ones against all 50 FTOs getting that pay grade.lets be realistic no one is going to apply unless theres a significant raise or upgrade from PO period.
What a joke !
I had the pleasure of speaking to them yesterday for 60 minutes. I know a few of them personally and I think they'll make solid FTO's. In particular, Bob Caviani and Jessica Highland. Thanks for taking the challenge. The recruits head out, still in need of direction and YOU folks make all the difference.
We used to go to Ira's to pass the time. With that classy joint gone, what will they do?
When is the next Sgts class starting??
Did anyone watch Mancow this morning?
No wonder nobody wants it! Not prepared! No curriculum! Hell Mcdonalds is way more organized than this Police dept.! Then shipped to midnites in ghetto, police hating district! Only if the dept. guarantees sgt. stripes other than that! No thanks!
Don't they have the curriculum on a disc? It was developed and approved by the state!! Probably don't have any qualified instructors or are fighting over what needs to be taught! Crazy.
Can I get an event number for a CLUSTERFUCK?
They need those days open for foot patrol in the Gold Coast. Enjoy coppers. HAH!
out of 7000 plus 9161's they could only get 56 to train gmac and rahmbo's new third reich--- just spend the entire training on ANOV writing and the legitimacy course....
That schedule is embarrassing. It looks like it was thrown together in 2 minutes.
ASS kissing 101
chicken bones in squad car 201
How to fall and get paid to be off in the summer (speech)
How many things fit on you duty belt!
Why we dont use blue pens
How to find a locker in a new district
Why officers fear meter maids.
Is a desk dollie really in charge?
Plenty to learn
Sounds like the applicants over the weekend. Less than half showed up and even less passed the power test.
OT got an email from a familiar name of an obvious house mouse with little time on job that McCarthy wants unit / district softball teams for his league. Well my district only allows 5 people off a day hardly enough to fill a team. Lets see where this goes.
"56 FTO's"
56 people without enough time to bid out of the ghetto on a monthly bid saw greener pastures - at first. They hadn't yet figured out that the Lion's Share of them would be sent to the ghetto anyway. Perhaps angling for a change of watch and scenery?
56 Dummies that that should've taken their cue from the other 62 that took the test and said "Fuck That Noise" when they actually ran the numbers and logistics involved and came up with the final product that had them on the losing end of the FTO equation.
And a tip for those in charge of this catastrophe of a program: the greener pasture has been revealed a mirage; expect more than a handful of these FTO's-in-training to decline the position at the conclusion of this 3 Week syllabus of "T.B.A.".
Ya see, "word on the skreet" is several plan to return to their current unit now that they realize that they don't have the seniority/juice to get one of the few spots in the more "desirable" training districts. They are enjoying this "training" as a three week vacation away from the daily grind of humping from job to job.
This is FACT, but you didn't hear it from me [wink, wink!].
4/17/2013 02:47:00 AM
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You learn something new every day. If I would have know about this angle, then I would have signed up for the three week vacation. I am kicking myself for not volunteering. But I would not have accepted the position.
A couple of people I talked to that were on the list of 118 just took it as a practice for the (alleged) Sgts test. They had no intention of being an FTO. Can't say I blame them.
FTO is a stepping stone to Sgt, right?
I think people took this test as practice for the next sgt test. Can't say I blame them. Any advantage helps.
That's 47% who still haven't caught on to how the department will find a way to fuck them. Give it another week or two and see what the final number is!
Call me an idealist, but maybe just maybe, I can teach one of these guys or girls (and as is now the case a combination of the two) how to successfully cover their ass.
TBA??? That sounds like your being deployed out in the field to help with, whatever. Your going to get screwed before weeks end.
The best FTO's I ever had on the job were not FTO's.
In typical cop fashion anything you couldnt get or didnt do is bullshit. You dont like it dont do it. But at least shut the hell up and stop hating on those that did do it. And to the retards that dont know prmotional drug screening is the drug test they give you when you get promoted.
Way under paid! Not worth it for the level of responsibility, danger, and limitations of districts. The poor turnout shows how undesirable it is.
yes, the fto class is being put togethr on the fly. yes, it's 3 weeks away. yes, after my 20 yr step in 1 1/2yrs i'll get a 10 grand bump up. the contract will be settled or near, the fto bump and step raise. not bad for pushing a beat car. that doesn't include the .75 a day comp or cash. it all adds up to not being bad. you get to teach young officers the job. the fun, the pain, the laughter, the sorrow. teach them to be safe. if your going to push a beat car, why not get more money and some satisfaction of teaching new officers. i have the time to transfer from a busy district. i chose to come here from a slow district. believe it or not, it's still ok to do police work.
So wtf is "verbal judo" - no classes on leadership, how to develop officers, etc. I'm not a cop but wouldn't you want FTOs to reemphasize what people learned on training? How to develop community resources, etc?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
...Plus the classes that are listed are mostly bullshit. Verbal judo? Seriously?
4/17/2013 01:19:00 AM
Jody Weis' legacy. Pitiful.
Yep now there will be 90 FTOs wow still no D2A maybe we should not hire another detective class until this is worked out-wait at the union the FTOs were tole that the detectives were the ones against all 50 FTOs getting that pay grade.lets be realistic no one is going to apply unless theres a significant raise or upgrade from PO period.
4/17/2013 02:51:00 AM
Huh? Do you teach Case Report Writing?
Anonymous said...
Wow, outside of Snelling (who is a merit hack) I have not heard of ANY of the other instructors.
That seems odd to me with almost 20 years on.
Have any of these instructors been the real police?? Been to 26th and Cal?? Been sued??
I think not.
And people wonder why this department is going down hill.
And please, do not comment that Snelling is a great guy. He is a merit hack, nothing more.
4/17/2013 12:06:00 AM
If believe so strongly that Sgt Snelling is a hack, have the balls to say it to his face. He has been excellent with the recruits and has high standards for them. Considering the bullshit that HR has done to the academy and considering that the academy does not have a leader, Snelling has done a great job with recruits. There is a reason no one wants to be assigned to the academy. Still the sgts there are task with bullshit and no leader to guide them. BTW I bet you like to hide behind the blog to bitch about the sgt. His door is always open so come on down and face him, asshat.
why do we even have an FTO program. no one ever fails it. it appears that 99.9% of the people the city hires are qualified for the job.
NOT TRUE! PPOs have been failed by their FTOs...until the PPO gets moved to another FTO who is willing to pass the knucklehead.
Snelling is one of the better instructors that the Academy has. He may have been a merit selection Sgt., but I've seen a hell of a lot worse...besides, when Snelling got promoted, he went back to ENGLEWOOD. Probably could have gone wherever he wanted.
Last night in 017, armed robbery occured with three offenders, offenders shoot at a few people and an off duty, before getting into their car to get away, off duty calls it in, comes out as a 10-1, offenders are chased onto edens with off duty and 017 cars, 017 district W/C JS calls it off and leaves the off duty on his own, without any backup chasing these offenders. Eventually State took it over but there was some time the off duty was on his own. Good call Joe.
A handful of people from 011 recently went to the academy as instructors. All had no more than 6 or 7 years on the job. How pathetic is that?! I know most learn more and faster working in 011 but 7 years? Puhhhhhlease. There should be a minimum required. Lets hope that these goofs are teaching things like gym and not the important things. This is just as bad as all those strokes that mysteriously make sergeant when they have little time / experience. Disgusting. This job is officially toast.
After seeing what has been done to FTOs over the last 30+ years why would anyone good enough/smart enough even take the position?
This was not a well thought out plan.
The funniest but saddest part of all this is these poor kids think they are actually going back and staying in their district of assignment. You may be going back after training but YOU WILL be reassigned somewhere else.
That schedule may as well be printed on toilet paper
The last 4 or 5 times the department made noise about rebooting the FTO program and taking field training seriously?
The department thoroughly shit on it and shit on the people who tried to give it a shot.
Same thing here...
It seems like they pull this shit the same time of year too...
Right before the Spring & Summer Shit-Head Offensive.
They sell these guys a bill of goods then they shanghai them to other districts then try to turn off the bids for the summer killing season so nobody can escape back to where they came from.
If they were serious... They would and COULD do much more to attract first rate people.
Remember when CPD made noise about a pay and grade differential among Patrolmen for education and training like LAPD? (early-mid 80's?)
It fell by the wayside because the clouted CPD birth-righters and their backers didn't want a bunch of "regular guys" getting this fast track to promotional opportunities.
Just like the couple of occasions where Sergeants classes and the one Lieutenants class we can recall were waved off?
*Who da fuck are deez guyz? We don't know nunna dem!*
Field Training is unfortunately an afterthought.
Gaaaaack! Jfled on Fox news at 1550, speaking as an expert on bombs. Does he have a lazy eye or something? His eyeballs are cockeyed! Very unsettling!!!!!
Wow, outside of Snelling (who is a merit hack) I have not heard of ANY of the other instructors.
That seems odd to me with almost 20 years on.
Have any of these instructors been the real police?? Been to 26th and Cal?? Been sued??
I think not.
And people wonder why this department is going down hill.
And please, do not comment that Snelling is a great guy. He is a merit hack, nothing more.
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Snelling had a partner killed. does that count as being the real police? you miserable crusty,salty fuck.
It strikes a nerve when instead of praising other POs on, we spend more time downplaying other POs in a negative way. All the negative responders, did you take the test and if you did, did you not pass it? This is not the first time the city has not been completely organized so why downplay the POs that successfully passed the test and stepped up to take the PROMOTION because whether it's D2 now and D2a in the future, it's still a PROMOTION. That is all!
Anonymous said...
Did anyone watch Mancow this morning?
4/17/2013 06:31:00 AM
You must be looking for the chat room around the corner.
Did anyone watch Mancow this morning?
4/17/2013 06:31:00 AM
Nope. Not one person. Not even his wife.
Snelling is one of the better instructors that the Academy has. He may have been a merit selection Sgt., but I've seen a hell of a lot worse...besides, when Snelling got promoted, he went back to ENGLEWOOD. Probably could have gone wherever he wanted.
4/17/2013 12:50:00 PM
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Snelling went to 022 after he was promoted and only for a few weeks. He is a great gym instructor but has No clue what to do as a Sgt. He keeps f nig up at the Academy.
Nice guy tho
FTO is a stepping stone to Sgt, right?
4/17/2013 09:15:00 AM
Nope. Nor should it be. Many FTOs are misfits that can't find anyone to put up with them. Many are in it for the money, some pathetic head cases do it for the power they wield over some poor recruit. Many bosses are in it for that same sick reason.
That being said, there are many fine selfless men and women who give of themselves to make some recruit into a similar fine officer. FTO Bob Caviani from 025 is one such fellow.
For FTOs like that, I pray that the meritorious system works the way it should. I know that is not how it is, sadly.
Keep doing what you do best. I hope your future peers are as good as you.
Anonymous said...
I think people took this test as practice for the next sgt test. Can't say I blame them. Any advantage helps.
4/17/2013 09:18:00 AM
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No advantage there. That test was written by Academy personnel. And as such, no one should have failed!
There are a few good ftos in this current class. They sure aren't doing it for the money and unless this idiot city wakes up and pay these ftos better they won't get anymore and they are desperately needed.
Bob Caviani and Ralph Medina will be solid. Bob and at least one other in the class are ftos returning to the position. I have a few friends who were trained by Bob and they have nothing but good things to say.
I wish nothing but the best for all involved. I just hope the city doesn't fuck them and try sending them other places other than back to the districts where they came from.
They deserve to go back and they will have to find a way to sweeten the pot to get more ftos because the next few years will pump out quite a large number of ppos and we need that.
And also rumor has it each fto will be training 2 ppos at a time. That's a huge responsibility put on the ftos.
Best of luck to the new ftos. Unless the city has turned over a new leaf I'm afraid the new ftos will get fucked liked the old ones.
Say a prayer and stop hating these men and women who have chosen to do Gods work.
Imagine getting into a car with not one but two recruits you don't know and have never met and you are given the responsibility to train both and keep them both safe as well as yourself.
This is an awesome responsibility and these men and women deserve our support not bad words and comments.
Again best of luck ftos and please be careful out there
A handful of people from 011 recently went to the academy as instructors. All had no more than 6 or 7 years on the job. How pathetic is that?! I know most learn more and faster working in 011 but 7 years? Puhhhhhlease. There should be a minimum required. Lets hope that these goofs are teaching things like gym and not the important things. This is just as bad as all those strokes that mysteriously make sergeant when they have little time / experience. Disgusting. This job is officially toast.
4/17/2013 01:17:00 PM
Funny you say that, because the only one with more than 7 years that went to FTO training can't write a domestic case report without it getting kicked back, and is scared of his own shadow.
To Scc comment teaching someone how to write a case report justifies D2a pay. I guess writing sups then would qualify but you have to pay for all of those ties and kaki pants somehow
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Last night in 017, armed robbery occured with three offenders, offenders shoot at a few people and an off duty, before getting into their car to get away, off duty calls it in, comes out as a 10-1, offenders are chased onto edens with off duty and 017 cars, 017 district W/C JS calls it off and leaves the off duty on his own, without any backup chasing these offenders. Eventually State took it over but there was some time the off duty was on his own. Good call Joe.
4/17/2013 01:05:00 PM
Heard on the news the State guys got him in North Chicago. Scary stuff. Glad it worked out okay.
Call me an idealist, but maybe just maybe, I can teach one of these guys or girls (and as is now the case a combination of the two) how to successfully cover their ass.
4/17/2013 09:52:00 AM
it all adds up to not being bad. you get to teach young officers the job. the fun, the pain, the laughter, the sorrow. teach them to be safe. if your going to push a beat car, why not get more money and some satisfaction of teaching new officers. i have the time to transfer from a busy district. i chose to come here from a slow district. believe it or not, it's still ok to do police work.
4/17/2013 11:29:00 AM
There are so many mopes on this job but a few people are still the police. God bless you guys (or gals.)
Hmmmmm; this should be interesting!!
Anonymous said...
So wtf is "verbal judo" - no classes on leadership, how to develop officers, etc. I'm not a cop but wouldn't you want FTOs to reemphasize what people learned on training? How to develop community resources, etc?
4/17/2013 11:45:00 AM
What does leadership have to do with FTO's? Verbal judo is the king! Then they will get ethics, diversity training and any other bullshit class to fill the time. I look forward to the schedule for next week. Bullshit speakers and nothing related to being a FTO. You would think they had a list of classes ready to go instead of waiting until the last minute. Can it be that hard to create a list? WTF! Who is in charge? Hello McCarthy?
ET class of less than 30 was in works,but now they want to wait until final two classes of sgts are made. Than ET class will happen after october and no more names off that list they want a new ET test made/administered.
There are a few good ftos in this current class. They sure aren't doing it for the money and unless this idiot city wakes up and pay these ftos better they won't get anymore and they are desperately needed.
Bob Caviani and Ralph Medina will be solid. Bob and at least one other in the class are ftos returning to the position. I have a few friends who were trained by Bob and they have nothing but good things to say.
I wish nothing but the best for all involved. I just hope the city doesn't fuck them and try sending them other places other than back to the districts where they came from.
They deserve to go back and they will have to find a way to sweeten the pot to get more ftos because the next few years will pump out quite a large number of ppos and we need that.
And also rumor has it each fto will be training 2 ppos at a time. That's a huge responsibility put on the ftos.
Best of luck to the new ftos. Unless the city has turned over a new leaf I'm afraid the new ftos will get fucked liked the old ones.
Say a prayer and stop hating these men and women who have chosen to do Gods work.
Imagine getting into a car with not one but two recruits you don't know and have never met and you are given the responsibility to train both and keep them both safe as well as yourself.
This is an awesome responsibility and these men and women deserve our support not bad words and comments.
Again best of luck ftos and please be careful out there
They better send us back to the units we came from
If they don't they can have my spot and the spot of several others. I won't go train in another district.
They say fuck you to me I holler it back twice as loud.
Here is my two cents. According to the original message only the top 30% were supposed to make the list. Per SCC about 170 took the test and 118 got called in. Seems off a bit.
Last night in 017, armed robbery occured with three offenders, offenders shoot at a few people and an off duty, before getting into their car to get away, off duty calls it in, comes out as a 10-1, offenders are chased onto edens with off duty and 017 cars, 017 district W/C JS calls it off and leaves the off duty on his own, without any backup chasing these offenders. Eventually State took it over but there was some time the off duty was on his own. Good call Joe.
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It wasn't Joe, it was a certain vertically challenged Sgt. acting DSS.
O.T. Any truth to the word that a new Chief of Patrol was made in light of Patterson's departure? Word is a certain Deputy Chief of the south side area is being put in the spot. I guess we will hear at the Comstat meeting. Should be interesting.
Sure sounded like 017 W/C JS on that chase. Sorry Joey if it wasnt you. I'll buy you a drink next time I see you at the ____k.
Anonymous said...
OT got an email from a familiar name of an obvious house mouse with little time on job that McCarthy wants unit / district softball teams for his league. Well my district only allows 5 people off a day hardly enough to fill a team. Lets see where this goes.
4/17/2013 08:35:00 AM
So now he wants camaraderie? More likely, he wants photo ops. He wants something to point at, when the stats go bad again. Look at me! They like me! See, I'm not like Jody!
Too late, Garry.
Snelling is one of the better instructors that the Academy has. He may have been a merit selection Sgt., but I've seen a hell of a lot worse...besides, when Snelling got promoted, he went back to ENGLEWOOD. Probably could have gone wherever he wanted.4/17/2013 12:50:00 PM@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Snelling went to 022 after he was promoted and only for a few weeks. He is a great gym instructor but has No clue what to do as a Sgt. He keeps f nig up at the Academy.Nice guy tho4/17/2013 06:19:00 PM
The original poster just got his "woods" confused. These neighborhoods are all confusing to a new suburbanite.
ET class of less than 30 was in works,but now they want to wait until final two classes of sgts are made. Than ET class will happen after october and no more names off that list they want a new ET test made/administered.
4/17/2013 09:35:00 PM
f that so I can rot on Midnights for 10 years till the next test??
New FTO said...
They better send us back to the units we came from
If they don't they can have my spot and the spot of several others. I won't go train in another district.
They say fuck you to me I holler it back twice as loud.
4/17/2013 09:51:00 PM
You're funny.
Anonymous said...
The funniest but saddest part of all this is these poor kids think they are actually going back and staying in their district of assignment. You may be going back after training but YOU WILL be reassigned somewhere else.
4/17/2013 02:25:00 PM
I doubt they will even go back. And if they do, it's going to be a long, long time from now.
To 7:22 pm. Bwwaah! It is Khaki you dope!
When I went through the academy 11 years ago, Snelling inspired me to get in shape. I went from 200 to now 140 still today. Which probably saved my life. So you piece of shit don't hide behind your computer screen come forward and let Sgt Snelling know how you feel.
Signed
RB 02DEC02
Anonymous said...
After seeing what has been done to FTOs over the last 30+ years why would anyone good enough/smart enough even take the position?
4/17/2013 01:59:00 PM
I don't know, maybe to actually try to train the new breed correctly and not remain part of the problem.
Snelling was a great guy and probably the only one that really seemed like he cared about keeping the recruits safe. Merit or not, he deserved it.
Anonymous said...
Snelling is one of the better instructors that the Academy has. He may have been a merit selection Sgt., but I've seen a hell of a lot worse...besides, when Snelling got promoted, he went back to ENGLEWOOD. Probably could have gone wherever he wanted.4/17/2013 12:50:00 PM@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@Snelling went to 022 after he was promoted and only for a few weeks. He is a great gym instructor but has No clue what to do as a Sgt. He keeps f nig up at the Academy.Nice guy tho4/17/2013 06:19:00 PM
The original poster just got his "woods" confused. These neighborhoods are all confusing to a new suburbanite.
4/18/2013 02:03:00 AM
How is Snelling making mistakes at the academy? Give us examples? He is in charge of 500 recruits without any help. When was the last time one sgt was over such a large group of recruits? He is doing an excellent job and he takes care of his crew. The instructors that work for him are grateful for his leadership. There are a few officers at the academy that keep shooting their mouth off about him and soon you will be exposed. Carma is a bitch!
Relax Barb West.
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The best FTO's I ever had on the job were not FTO's.
The best FTOs are in 024. However, the district is too slow.
Karma is spelled with a K.... Dummy
4/18/2013 02:03:00 AM
How is Snelling making mistakes at the academy? Give us examples? He is in charge of 500 recruits without any help. When was the last time one sgt was over such a large group of recruits? He is doing an excellent job and he takes care of his crew. The instructors that work for him are grateful for his leadership. There are a few officers at the academy that keep shooting their mouth off about him and soon you will be exposed. Carma is a bitch!
4/18/2013 04:27:00 PM
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Yea, you must be one of the instructors with an advanced degree from Lewis. I am sure that Snelling is a great leader. But he is not the only supervisor at the academy.
Anonymous said...
Wow, outside of Snelling (who is a merit hack) I have not heard of ANY of the other instructors.
That seems odd to me with almost 20 years on.
Have any of these instructors been the real police?? Been to 26th and Cal?? Been sued??
I think not.
And people wonder why this department is going down hill.
And please, do not comment that Snelling is a great guy. He is a merit hack, nothing more.
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Snelling had a partner killed. does that count as being the real police? you miserable crusty,salty fuck.
4/17/2013 04:41:00 PM
So, if you never heard of someone, they can't be any good, right?
When I went through the academy 11 years ago, Snelling inspired me to get in shape. I went from 200 to now 140 still today. Which probably saved my life. So you piece of shit don't hide behind your computer screen come forward and let Sgt Snelling know how you feel.
Signed
RB 02DEC02
4/18/2013 09:21:00 AM
Don't know about you but that's only 10 yrs.
Larry is a good guy he would bent over backwards to help anyone so lay off him.
So let me get this right!!! He has been in the academy for 10 plus yrs? Ok WTF? Well there is a saying, those who can do and those that can't teach!!!
Latest rumor boys and girls.
When ftos are done they are going to districts but no districts north of 015.
Ftos gonna get fucked again
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