Tuesday, July 02, 2013

Quinn Poised to "Amend" Gun Bill

  • Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn intends to take action Tuesday on legislation that would allow guns to be carried in public, and he's widely expected to insert changes to the bill to try to put in place stricter regulations.

    While Quinn would not say Monday what he plans to do with the concealed carry measure, sponsoring Rep. Brandon Phelps said the governor's office told him that Quinn would rewrite the proposal using his amendatory veto powers.

    Quinn is a staunch gun-control advocate who has decried the federal appellate court decision that struck down Illinois' long-standing concealed carry ban. The ruling forced lawmakers to strike a compromise to set up rules on who can carry guns and where before a court-ordered deadline expired and left a lack of regulation on the books.

    But the legislation lawmakers approved did not include a number of restrictions pushed by Quinn, including a statewide ban on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. It's unclear what changes Quinn plans to make, but Phelps said he believed limiting the number of rounds that could be carried in a gun is at the top of the governor's list.
We fully expect Quinn to miss a bunch of stuff or misrepresent others to push Concealed Carry down the road. "High capacity" means "standard" in most semi-auto weaponry. Hunters need to be aware of certain language that could threaten their ability to hunt. We expect him to miss or ignore exceptions for police officers.

Gov. Potato Head is pandering to the anti-gunners in Chicago, meaning he's written off most of downstate next election, which is interesting seeing as how recent polls show Madigan and Daley encumbered with political baggage due to their relatives of the same last name.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Gov. Potato Head is pandering to the anti-gunners in Chicago, meaning he's written off most of downstate next election, which is interesting seeing as how recent polls show Madigan and Daley encumbered with political baggage due to their relatives of the same last name."

I wish Governor Edgar would run again. He was a common sense guy.

7/02/2013 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Governor Potato Head has as much of a chance of being re-elected as a snowball surviving in Hell.

7/02/2013 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous THEE RANT said...

Click on Concealed Carry Comes to Chicago

7/02/2013 03:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A commentator on a political blog pointed out that this will be Quinn's re-election kickoff. The veto will be held with or at the home of a gun violence victim, he will be surrounded by children, the parents of Haydia Pendleton and some Sandyhook parents if he can get them.
Of course he is writing off downstate. The last election showed that one only has to win Cook and St Clair (East St Louis)counties by a wide enough margin to win statewide

7/02/2013 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Not a Welfare Recipient said...

Next election - don't elect another political hack.

AND - whoever gets in better read the Constitution before they swear to uphold it.

Illinois - Land of Political Idiots

That should be on every license plate- not Land of Lincoln.

7/02/2013 06:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are going to "ammend" the laws to unconstitutional levels and we'll waste yet more tax dollars fighting this out needlessly so the socialists can feel good about themselves.

7/02/2013 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I wish Governor Edgar would run again. He was a common sense guy."

7/02/2013 12:19:00 AM

Please... The burning shit-wagon that Jim Thompson lit and shoved downhill just accelerated faster under Jim Edgar!

Now that the damn thing has crashed through the side of the house and there's fire and burning shit everywhere, what now?

It's beyond the power of the elected cowards in Illinois.

7/02/2013 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3:33 AM (THEE RANT):

The cartoon of Garry McHypocrite shooting out streetlights says it all. He's as phony as a $3 bill. Yet this shit-faced cowboy has the chutzpah to rave on about responsible firearms ownership.

Hilarious!

7/02/2013 08:02:00 AM  
Blogger Rob Crawford said...

Governor Potato Head has as much of a chance of being re-elected as a snowball surviving in Hell.

Given recent history, he's likely to end up in prison.

Interesting thought: if he "amends" this bill to the point the court decides it's unacceptable, will he be imprisoned for contempt?

7/02/2013 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Law-Abiding Citizen said...

The standard magazine for my semi-automatic 9 mm. pistol holds 17 rounds. I have my FOID card and frequently practice at a suburban range. Some say that I am a pillar of my community. No one is going to legislate that I carry less than 17 rounds in the magazine.

If this knucklehead Quinn tries to limit magazine ammo, would any realistic police officer ignore discretion and arrest me for "too many" bullets? I am respectful and polite with all law enforcement officers.

My respect and gratitude to the CPD for all you do despite being managed by imbeciles and corrupt politicians.

7/02/2013 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On Sunday channel 7 (I think) had potato head talking at the pride parade saying people should have the smae rights as people in other states
I guess that dosent include 2nd amendment rights
sorry I am not computer savy enough to put up the link.

7/02/2013 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The concealed carry bill passed by the General Assembly was a miserable, restrictive mess. The expected amendatory veto will only make it more miserable and restrictive, clearly an unreasonable excuse for concealed carry.

7/02/2013 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous SCC reader and CPD supporter said...

Illinois - Land of Political Idiots

That should be on every license plate- not Land of Lincoln.

Beautiful, I am getting the Sharpie out now. Just wish I had thought of that first cuz it would have been a bumper sticker.

7/02/2013 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Bklyn North said...

In the State of New York, active and retired police officers are exempt from any magazine ammo limits.

Quinn and Emanuel probably have more heavily armed police bodyguards as Gov. Cuomo in NY. Do as I say not as I do. Arrogant hypocrite bastids.

7/02/2013 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can the states senate & representatives over-ride Quinn's amendatory veto and pass the law as is?

7/02/2013 10:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can the state reps and senate over-ride Quinn's amendatory veto and pass the bill as is?

7/02/2013 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Think its funny how he needs chicagos vote, but got the shit boo'd outta him at hawks rally! Whats funnier, ver uhh few of those people who boo'd him will actually vote...sos

7/02/2013 11:13:00 AM  
Blogger Mr. SouthSide said...

Quinn is a north sider. God knows what goes through his mind.

7/02/2013 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as the late AMayor Harold Washington stated....."his biggest mistake was to appoint Quinn and even bigger mistake was to take so long to get rid of him.........

7/02/2013 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a copy of Quinn's letter to IL House of Reps. courtesy of a tweet from NRA News:

http://illinoissenatedemocrats.com/images/PDFS/HB_0183_Amendatory_Veto.pdf

7/02/2013 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous "POTATO HEAD" said...

GUBERNATORIAL INFALLIBILITY HAS SPOKEN

God protect all my low information voters. By the way, who is this Richard Posner guy?

7/02/2013 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...You are going to see a lot more gunfights...";
Phony Phleger
This idiot has made a lot of stupid statements, but this one tops them all.
Every State that has passed CCW, crime against HONEST LAW ABIDING citizens has dropped.
CRIMINAL THUGS will continue to kill each other & innocent by standers.

7/02/2013 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Tango said...

He just amended it.
http://www3.illinois.gov/PressReleases/ShowPressRelease.cfm?SubjectID=3&RecNum=11323

•Alcohol: Any alcohol = no CCW.

•Home-Rule: Remember the "10 day limit" and the rush we're seeing for town to ban sportingguns?

Fooled you - Ha ha.

•Signage: only OK to CCW in establishments that permit CCW. I guess the comparison to "BLACKS NOT ALLOWED".

I also have to wonder if the signage will be increased from the 4"x6" for the no carry signs to 72" x 120" with mandatory lettering WARNING TO PARENTS AND CHILDREN: GUNS PRESENT IN THIS ESTABLISHMENT"


•Employer’s Rights: While an employer could already ban guns in his place of business, you could lock it in your car.

F*ck you, 2A nut.

•Number of Guns and Ammunition: " it allows individuals to legally carry multiple guns with unlimited rounds of ammunition, which is a public safety hazard."

So one gun and ten rounds. Thanks for deciding that all criminals will stop in ten shots or less.

•Mental Health Reporting: I want more money.

•Clarification of “Concealed”: Where the bill allowed "mostly concealed" in case of printing or accidental exposure (while you're taking it off to board public transit or enter a posted facility) now they can arrest you if someone sees it.

F*ck u 2A nut.

•Open Meetings Act: We want to be able to release applicant info to the media under the guise of "openness" and "sunshine" while we refuse to disclose communications inside the legislative process that might prove sponsors of amendments were not the authors of those amendments.

•Law Enforcement: Must disclose.

Funny, in my academy class I was taught to assume everybody had a weapon. Such a big deal yet there's not companion legislation that requires gang bangers and dealers to tell a cop if they have a gun.


Oddly enough, while he declares his veto will make the citizenry safer, he has yet to disband his XPD, and I have seen nothing on the teletype instructing local PDs to reduce their magazine loadout or eliminate those eveil black rifles from their inventories.

7/02/2013 01:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should be able to carry it on public tranportation especially the CTA and in Parks and in the Forest Preserves.

7/02/2013 02:02:00 PM  
Blogger Elm Creek Smith said...

If Governor Quinn exercises his "amendatory veto," which by the way is the stupidest thing I ever heard tell of, and the legislature doesn't override it, "Downstate" should secede from Illinois and become the State of Lincoln. Then the State of Lincoln can build a fence around Crook County and another around St Clair County like we should have along the Mexican border.

ECS

7/02/2013 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"A limit of (1) ten round magazine". Gov. Potato Head is ignorant of firearms basics such as having a second magazine for when the first one malfunctions. I cant wait for them to override this cartoon character posing as a Governor.

7/02/2013 02:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can anyone post a link to the verbatim text of the concealed carry bill BEFORE it went to Gov. PotatoHead?

7/02/2013 02:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...


I wish Governor Edgar would run again. He was a common sense guy.

7/02/2013 12:19:00 AM

I really hope you're kidding. That asshole vetoed a carry bill in '92.

7/02/2013 02:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's see did anyone ask the Latin Kings or the Maniac Latin Disciples or the Gangster Disciples or The Vice Lords just how they are planning to follow all these new laws? They always carry concealed. Maybe Bobby "The Gangster" Rush knows.

7/02/2013 05:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...


I wish Governor Edgar would run again. He was a common sense guy.

7/02/2013 12:19:00 AM

I really hope you're kidding. That asshole vetoed a carry bill in '92.
7/02/2013 02:55:00 PM


He was just another Illinois politician, just not as hands on as the rest. Still worshiped at the Church of Clout.

The Edgar family is a long time Illinois heavyweight family. They are from a county in Illinois named for them, Edgar County. Someone named Edgar from Edgar County gets elected governor. Common sense huh.

7/02/2013 06:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a jag off! Keep fucking with the second amendment. It only costs us how much in lawsuits every time???

7/02/2013 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Downstate" should secede from Illinois and become the State of Lincoln.


There was a proposal within the last two years or so, to divest the Chicago metro area from the rest of the state, kind of like D.C., by a downstate legislator.

The metro area doesn't reflect the views of the rest of the state, was essentially the reason.

Unfortunately for Illinois, it never went anywhere.


rb

7/03/2013 12:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The concealed carry bill passed by the General Assembly was a miserable, restrictive mess."


That's agreed by most who support CCW, but it's a start-especially for Illinois.

Get it passed first, then get it changed.


rb

7/03/2013 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If this knucklehead Quinn tries to limit magazine ammo, would any realistic police officer ignore discretion and arrest me for "too many" bullets?"


Realistic? No. But we've got a knucklehead or two of our own...


rb

7/03/2013 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I can't take my gun into a bar with intentions of drinking alcohol per g.o.'s why should anyone else?

7/03/2013 01:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
"If this knucklehead Quinn tries to limit magazine ammo, would any realistic police officer ignore discretion and arrest me for "too many" bullets?"

Realistic? No. But we've got a knucklehead or two of our own...

7/03/2013 12:32:00 AM


There is some state out east, New Jersey I think, that makes jacketed hollow point bullets against the law so you would get arrested for carrying our standard duty ammo in your gun.

That always struck me as stupid, outlawing an ammo on account of it was "deadly." Isn't that what guns are for? You know, deadly force.

I sat on a police shooting suspect in the hospital and the surgeon asked me what type of "killer" bullets the police used because the shithead's liver was shredded. Of course I smiled inside. Just the usual kind of killer bullets I replied.

Shithead had a very rough three days before expiring. Only got shot once and that was in the days of soft lead hollow point bullets coming out of a revolver.

7/03/2013 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The original bill was passed with a veto proof majority so nitwit Quinn will likely have his amendatory horseshit overturned once again by the legislature.

These idiots actually think they are accomplishing something by limiting magazines to ten rounds. What fools.

7/03/2013 08:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If I can't take my gun into a bar with intentions of drinking alcohol per g.o.'s why should anyone else?

7/03/2013 01:49:00 AM

Because YOUR employer commands YOU to do so.

Idiot.

7/03/2013 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. SouthSide said...
Quinn is a north sider. God knows what goes through his mind.

7/02/2013 11:56:00 AM

Yep, those south-siders really do a great job. Daley,Madigan, etc.

7/03/2013 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From a member of TheeRant:

Congratulations to the People of Illinois. It's nice to see some seeds of Liberty sprout in that long fallow ground.

The pushback is starting in NY too.

FUAC

7/03/2013 11:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
If I can't take my gun into a bar with intentions of drinking alcohol per g.o.'s why should anyone else?

7/03/2013 01:49:00 AM

I often go into bars, knowing I'm the designated driver. Why shouldn't I be able to carry? I haven't done anything stupid with my gun in the last thirty years and I'm not going to start now.

7/03/2013 02:26:00 PM  

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