No Guns at NFL Games
Because, you know, there have been so many dozens of shootings involving cops at NFL events:
- A new NFL policy bans off-duty law enforcement officers from taking their guns into stadiums.
As CBS 2′s [...] reports, many officers are calling foul, and fan support for the policy is mixed.
First it was the NFL’s new bag policy not scoring any points with fans this season. Now, the league’s ban on off-duty officers carrying weapons into stadiums is coming under fire.
“It’s a terrible idea because you have so many people who coming to a stadium that if an incident happens, how are the police supposed to protect and serve?” Bears fan Jeff Atkinson says.
In a statement, an NFL spokesperson says: “We believe that the interest of public safety is best served by limiting the number of weapons inside stadiums to those required by officers that perform specifically assigned law enforcement working functions and game-day duties.”
Which would be all well and good....if the NFL actually owned all the stadiums. In many cases, they don't. They lease/rent the facilities from a city, state or sports authority. Soldier Field is Park District property, so Park District rules ought to apply.
Texas handled this with its usual level headedness:
Texas handled this with its usual level headedness:
- The National Football League has implemented a new stadium policy that would ban off-duty police officers from carrying guns into games…except in the state of Texas.
According to the NFL memo, “off-duty officers who attempt to bring firearms into an NFL facility will be denied entry.”
But a Texas state law overrides the NFL policy. As long as officers attending the game check in at a specific gate and inform Security where they are sitting – they can have their gun.
Ron Pinkston of the Dallas Police Association says that the Texas law is sensible.
“Our officers are 24/7, on or off duty, and if they run into a critical incident – they are required to take action” says Pinkston. “Our officers will be allowed to carry their weapon into [the] Stadium and other football stadiums in the State of Texas due to Texas law.”
We know a bunch of people who used to side job for various security firms inside Soldier Field and other stadiums, usually in those fluorescent jackets, and to a man they related that they were unarmed. In this day and age of the big splashy terrorist attack, the Texas solution would seem to be the sensible option.
Labels: gun issues, sports
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
105 Comments:
No cops should carry guns off duty. They dont deserve to carry guns. If they see an incident happen go the other way. Dont take action. This way you wont get sued or be liable for anything. Its a great idea. Hey dont forget that something like 30 percent of the NFL players are convicted felons.
I heard that the Fop couldve got Officers an exemption so that they could carry at Soldier field but they forgot to send the NFL the letter.
How can a private business infringe on my right to carry, a right that SCOTUS reaffirmed yet again? The patients are running the asylum!!
Don't mess with Texas. Thinking sensible while the rest are dumbing down its security if this holds up.
The NFL has long been Anti-Gun, discouraging players from excercising their rights
Here is the N.F.L. policy on gun possession. It applies to all N.F.L. employees, including players:
Prohibitions
Whether possessed legally or illegally, guns and other weapons of any kind are dangerous. You and your family can easily be the losers if you carry or keep these items in your home. You must not possess these weapons while traveling on league-related business or whenever you are on the premises of the following:
A facility owned, operated or being used by an NFL club (for example, training camp, dormitory, locker room, workout site, parking area, team bus, team plane, team hotel/motel);
A stadium or any other venue being used for an N.F.L. event (for example, a game, practice or promotion);
A facility owned or operated by the N.F.L. or any league company. Put simply, the league, the Players Association and law enforcement authorities urge you to recognize that you must not possess a gun or other weapon at any time you are performing any service for your team or the N.F.L.
Note the "preamble" which is expecially humorous: guns and other weapons of any kind are dangerous. You and your family can easily be the losers if you carry or keep these items in your home. This from the same Violence Peddling corporate bloodsuckers who televised the gruesome Joe Theismann multi-fragmentary compound leg fracture, and continue to profit from the beating, breaking and incremental destruction of human bodies
This policy gives one much insight into the warped mindset that would enact such sensless rules regarding police officers, seeing as how cavalierly they treat both the bodily health, and physical safety of thier own players
Maybe the National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF) should write a policy prohibiting it's members from participating in Football
Off topic but can someone spread the word on who is running for FOP President and what the names are of whom we can choose from? Is Dougherty from FOP running?
I will NEVER go to another NFL game again. Fuck it. My 50" High Def, bowl of popcorn and cheap cold jars just a couple feet away from my comfy recliner will have to do.
Just another fine example of a death of a nation. You can not make this stuff up any more.
he NFL should check how many weapons the players are bringing in their record isn't the best in sports. The head of the NFL [Goodell or whatever his last name is] has done his best to pussify football now the little bitch is telling coppers what to do DUMP THIS ASSHOLE!
OK, let's review.
First, this horse's ass NFL Commissioner goddell allows a convicted felon (vick) back into the NFL, as if it were an entitlement that cannot be denied.
Now, obviously, he agrees with this stupid policy that forbids off-duty police officers to carry firearms into NFL games.
I, for one, will never attend another NFL game again.
And how do we get this nitwit goodell fired? It's pretty obvious that he's incompetent.
Won't attend a game
Last I looked stadium security was handled by a clouted firm, Monterey Security. The off duty officers working there are unarmed with no place to check weapons when they arrive. So, if they take public transportation they have to ride unarmed on the CTA. Now, won't that be fun. Of course, the CTA says citizens don't need to be armed while riding the trains and buses as they are safe.
they are sheep and they just don't get it. i'm done with going to places that turn me away for shit like this. ill spend my $ somewhere where i'm appreciated.
God bless Texas.
I USED to take my sons to two or three games a year. I won't if I can't protect them.
Fuck the NFL!
Rugby is a better sport anyways.
well last time I checked the property that Soldier Field encompasses is PUBLIC LLAND owned by the Chicago Park District, therefore if I did waste my money and actually went you can bet your ass Im packing.
just another fine example of the powers that be chipping away the ability of law enforcement to serve and protect...priceless!
The new policy was in response to prevent Superintendent McNutt potentially shooting lights out a Soldier Field.
This is 'Stoo-Pid'!!! Roger Goodell is a pansy-ass brainwashed bonehead (no offense to boneheads). This policy has the fingerprints of the Noo Yuk and Noo Jersey gun-grabbers all over it -- so I bet McCompStat loves it.
If something did happen exactly how long would that 'off duty' cop remain 'off duty'? In most places, except maybe the libtard North East, not too fucking long, it'd be all hands on deck. Then what good does an unarmed Cop do?...crickets...crickets...
Hell, there was a time that Chicago Police were never 'off duty'. Don't know if that's still the case but most folks liked it. And in those *wild days* at old Comiskey Park I hoped those off-duty cops working security were friggen armed.
Lastly, the 'off duty' Chicago Cops I knew 'back in the day' never went without a gun, usually a .38 snubby (one cop used Super Vels). I'd hope it was the same today.
>>> an aside, I wonder how much if any that 'Off Duty Cops-Biker-SUV' incident in NYC played into this? Given it was NYC 'guns' are always somehow involved -- even if not logically to most people. <<<
And, why on earth would I spend an outlandish amount of money to attend a professional football game? I defriended them before they defriended me.
Stop supporting the NFL.
Watch a game on TV.
Most people that buy the advertised products do so without the ads influence. As a matter of fact who watches the ads? That's what the remote is for.
How can a private business infringe on my right to carry, a right that SCOTUS reaffirmed yet again? The patients are running the asylum!!
I hope this is sarcasm. While I wouldn't post a sign in MY store denying your rights, I find it perfectly acceptable for shopkeepers to post such signs in their place of business. Property owners rights usurp yours. If you don't like it, don't patronize their business.
On the other hand, the NFL rules for Off-Duty LEO's is bullshit.
Fuggin libertards. Another reason to watch from home.
God Blessed Texas, with his own hands.
Here's an idea.
If you don't like the policy, don't go.
Just another enemy of the police as far as I'm concerned.
I heard that the Fop couldve got Officers an exemption so that they could carry at Soldier field but they forgot to send the NFL the letter.
10/15/2013 12:25:00 AM
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Nice one. Lol
Pssssst, just like Sox Park, the scanners security uses to find guns, don't work. Don't tell anyone!
That's where I'm moving too when I retire......The Great State of Texas!!!!!
If civilian ccw holders cannot carry then neither should off duty officers.If cops really say they believe in the 2nd Amendment then back civies too.
What about players????
This is friking awesom. Coming from the sport that has the most convicted felons on a playing surface at any time.
Don't carry guns to protect yourself , and don't worry about that feline pinch we got your back. Anyone watching this ghetto fabulous sport needs their heads examined.
Besides the no guns now you can't even hit someone hard and clean anymore without a fine. NFL has turned into big government just like anything else run by liberals and all for minority population. Look at any team and tell me the NFL isn't geared towards the Obama voting felon.
Don't mess with Texas I love those guys.
Real Football with leather helmets.
Bronislau "Bronko" Nagurski
One of his funniest moments was his style of running. Always head down barreling through tacklers when he ran right through the endzone and hit his head on the brick wall at Wrigley Field where they played. He went back to Bears coach George Halas and said, "That last guy gave me quite a lick!"
Two words. Fuck them. Watch it on tv. Better yet, find a history book written by the much maligned "historical revisionists", more appropriately named reveal-ers and find out how they've duped us all, for a very long time. Remember the "victor" writes the history books; that doesn't mean he told the truth.
The "real" purpose of the "bread and circus show called the NFL is to distract the masses so our masters can continue robbing us blind and destroying our nation until there is nothing left, but a memory. Wake up. The only difference between the fall of Rome and now is the date.
(Google "bread and circus & Rome" if you don't know the history)
If the off-duties aren't armed and the security guards aren't armed,who is armed at these events aside from the bad guys?
And what do most folks at games do? Why drink lots of beers. Do you want drunks with guns?
Guys you can thank retired D/S Steve Peterson for his input on this.
First off, the NFL takes Federal and State level money. By doing that it has lost it's ability to enact this rule. Easy win in a court of law, even here.
Hell, I carry when I go to church on Sunday. These maniac, pussy terrorists target places they know people will be unarmed.
G*d bless those fine, Republicans down in Texas.
That's it! Not renewing my season tickets......
There is a simple solution to these asshat ideas we know our aldermen love to impose new ordinances all the time. Every business in Chicago must have a city license to operate in the city. Pass a ordinance that prohibits any business with a city license from denying Chicago police officers from entering their business while on/off-duty. If they don't like the ordinance they can relocate outside the city. Chicago police officers are required to take police action 24/7!
I've always carried a gun for the past 35 years,even just to take out the trash to the alley. It's always been concealed!
Where I shake my head is when I see these idiots (young and old) wearing an exposed weapon, their star on their belts and a police slogan t-shirt while shopping in the jewel, or at the park with their kids,basically just everywhere they go while off duty.
If you're carrying - conceal it, don't flaunt it. The public is not impressed, but really think that you're a nut, a Tackleberry(?) from the old police academy movies.
With that rant, please be careful and stay safe!
The Chicago bear play football on Chicago park district property so I guess this does not apply to Chicago cops !
someone should tell this nitwit that federal law trumps nfl rules
Who the fuck cares, any asshole that goes and pays to see a game are idiots.
I'm a cop. I take my gun everywhere. If you don't like it, fuck you. NFL included.
All you guys are getting your undies in a bunch for nothing. If these stupid fuck managers or powers that be at Soldiers Field or any other venue don't want you to carry inside just leave it in the trunk or better yet don't go to that venue. When there's a mass shooting by some deranged jack-off or terrorist maybe the light bulb will come on for these pricks but you must understand that this city and state are the most anti-gun entities in the country. These stupid fucking liberal pieces of shit will never understand that the only way to combat these potential killers is with equal or greater firepower. Trained police either active or retired is free security but assholes just don't understand so I say FUCK EM till the light bulb finally comes on. One armed policeman or retiree with a handgun could easily prevent serious carnage from escalating (like the Sandy Hook or Naval shipyard incidents) but these dumbfucks don't realize that so just play by the rules till the shit hits the fan and hopefully things might change.
I would never go to an over priced BEARS game before now it's set in stone... I will be moving to Texas when I retire the above post just confirmed it for me. Texas actually is the only state with commen sense.
I wont say that this policy is smart.. It's not. But this is what cops get for not supporting broad gun rights for citizens. If you think gun grabbers can go about their merry way passing laws as long as you get an exemption you are sadly mistaken. They never stop and they pressure corporations to do things like this.
With that said, your Unions and leadership have done this to you. Think of the Illinois CCW, the only cops we saw at any hearings were AGAINST CCW. the FOP didnt get involved because cops (and even retired cops) got a carve out...
That is why they include "retired" cops in all these carve outs. Because it will keep your unions and YOU from fighting against laws and goofiness.
Maybe you should back PUBLICLY and ask your Unions and organizations to back gun rights for the law abiding and we will help back you on these things.
but sorry, to see cops "feel some of our pain" will probably be good in the long run for gun rights.
This from a 20 year Marine that just came back to Illinois and has seen how this state runs.
Anonymous said...
Off topic but can someone spread the word on who is running for FOP President and what the names are of whom we can choose from? Is Dougherty from FOP running?
10/15/2013 12:48:00 AM
A union rep from the airport is putting together a slate albeit covertly but wonder how many other secret spies are doing the same?
Another reason to love Texas. Southern hospitality, best BBQ, big trucks, proud gun owners, and good lookin' men. And they have a surplus instead of a deficit in their state budget. You cannot drive down any highway in Texas without seeing a monolithic American and Texas state flag being flown- some of the biggest and most beautiful American flags I've ever seen in my life. Some could cover a three flat on an oversized chicago lot like a pup in a blanket. Unlike here, where all you see are flags from every other country displayed- and we are 1000 miles further north of the border.
We should create a new US ALAMO throw all the bums out of our Nations Capital and all the NFL FELONS out of the league.
That's good because I haven't attended a game in years and haven't bought merchandise in years. The thuggery on the field and the celebration after every minute tackle or 11 yard run. Give me a break.
The NFL has been inhospitable to all of the fans. I have had season tickets since the days of Walter. I don't go to games anymore, I don't tailgate, have to deal with the stupid parking situations or traffic. I enjoy the games from home, and its money in the bank from the tickets.
Last year's sale of tickets got me, the wife and son to Vegas for the Super Bowl! BOO YAH!!!
Anonymous said...
How can a private business infringe on my right to carry, a right that SCOTUS reaffirmed yet again? The patients are running the asylum!!
10/15/2013 12:27:00 AM
You're not serious are you? As stupid as the rule is to me, yes they have a "right" to set parameters for who attends games and how. They are not infringing on your right to carry. You are free to walk around the building with your concealed weapon as much as you want. The government has not mandated that you go to NFL games unarmed. You agree to that when you buy a ticket. I wasn't going to any games anyway (shoulder shrug)...
Does that rule apply to New England Patriots tight ends also?
Anonymous said...
OK, let's review.
First, this horse's ass NFL Commissioner goddell allows a convicted felon (vick) back into the NFL, as if it were an entitlement that cannot be denied.
Now, obviously, he agrees with this stupid policy that forbids off-duty police officers to carry firearms into NFL games.
I, for one, will never attend another NFL game again.
And how do we get this nitwit goodell fired? It's pretty obvious that he's incompetent.
10/15/2013 02:11:00 AM
Vick is a convicted felon but somehow his crime of running a dog fighting ring doesn't amount to a lifetime ban from professional sports (where he generates a nice amount of revenue for the NFL) to me. Get off the soapbox and stop acting like they're giving him charity. They're paying him because he makes them money. You should probably be concerned with the other NFL felonies that involved..I don't know....a dead body.
I will NEVER go to another NFL game again. Fuck it.
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Amen.
I will also never go to a Sox game or any other MLB game that spits in the face off duty officers by not allowing us to be armed.
hey ssc it wont affect me because i wont go to a football game. also i go to court and work plenty of side armed jobs. football is a thug sport now anyway
As long as I can smuggle my flask in, I'm good!!
11th Dist King said...
No cops should carry guns off duty. They dont deserve to carry guns. If they see an incident happen go the other way. Dont take action. This way you wont get sued or be liable for anything. Its a great idea. Hey dont forget that something like 30 percent of the NFL players are convicted felons.
10/15/2013 12:19:00 AM
Ok Mr. Bobo.
I don't go to football games anyway!
Much nicer on my 60 inch HD Tv, along with a full refrigerator of good food and no overpriced beer! Best of all, no waiting for the shitter!
That is all I need!
Once again, the great State Of Texas gets it right and backs up their Police and citizen rights!
This State and NFL is so stupid!
OK... Well fuck the National Felon League then...
Starve 'em to fucking death and don't patronize them.
These assholes shouldn't get a fucking nickel of taxpayer money to build these stadiums.
The aggravating part is that they know this.
Another target/victim rich venue where some wild-eyed asshole can do the m/f-ing fool...
All the big talkers here beating their chests and squawking about how "I'll never go to another game again" are cut from the same cloth as your coworkers that can't seem to write enough parkers, ANOVs and vehicle impounds... as they simultaneously complain about being the Redheaded Stepchildren of city employees.
No spine and absent any semblance of intestinal fortitude as soon as the "supervisors" threaten time due restrictions or shuffling start times.
Enjoy your $8 beers and $6 bratwurst. Chumps.
How can a private business infringe on my right to carry, a right that SCOTUS reaffirmed yet again? The patients are running the asylum!!
10/15/2013 12:27:00 AM
Because it's a private business. Go back to sleep you might miss something.
Ok,we as police officers should enforce all dui laws outside of nfl games dui check points. And then see if the NFL changes there tune. If that doesn't work stop going to the games and they should have to pay for our security at every game.
TO the 11th District KING:: You my ignorant person are a MORON, You must be a do nothing DOGASS who nevers goes out of his house after work. You will be a victim with this type of atitude, nobody is saying be a hero, but you need to protect yourself and your loved ones and how will you feel when you can't do that. I have been on this job a very long time Mr. 11th District King and I never go out without my gun, not because I'm weak, it's because the law says I can and I would even if the law said I can't. Please remember the old saying, It's better to be judged by 12, then carried by 6.
does that mean the mayor cant go to the Bears game??????????//
Anonymous said...
If civilian ccw holders cannot carry then neither should off duty officers.If cops really say they believe in the 2nd Amendment then back civies too.
10/15/2013 08:47:00 AM
Dude! you seam to have issues with the police, and authority in general. Unlike John Q Public, the police run to the source of the gunfight and are trained to deal with it. On or off duty.
If you want to carry like the police then take the test.
If you can pass the common sense portion.
“It’s a terrible idea because you have so many people who coming to a stadium that if an incident happens, how are the police supposed to protect and serve?” Bears fan Jeff Atkinson says.
yep I'll do my duty, I will try to call 911 and let them know at the 911 number that there is an incident going on at soldier fireld sect 110 row 15 seat a and b and then I'll run like hell out of harms way.... there i did whats required of me. now go get those monterey andy frain people
If civilian ccw holders cannot carry then neither should off duty officers.If cops really say they believe in the 2nd Amendment then back civies too.
In that case, then let the "civies" get sued in federal court as easily as sworn personnel. Stupid fuck.
Anonymous said...
I heard that the Fop couldve got Officers an exemption so that they could carry at Soldier field but they forgot to send the NFL the letter.
10/15/2013 12:25:00 AM
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Nice one. Lol
10/15/2013 08:37:00 AM
Then the NFL said, file an appeal and we'll look at it, but the FOP missed the 180 day deadline to appeal.
here's an idea , everyone give up their seasons tickets
let the clowns go back to flipping burgers for minimum wage
Texas is the only State that can secede from the Union. For 350k you can buy a beautiful 4 thousand square foot home with a couple of acres. Guess what? No savages running amuck. Deep in the heart of Texas!!!!
Who cares...football sucks...way overrated...
I think a bigger point here is missing. The Federal law was enacted as well as local and State laws for Peace Officers to carry their weapons off duty for personal protection. You never know who you are going to run into that you arrested for a crime. Wherever you are...you don't know if some whacked out lunatic has a vendetta and wants to kill you or your family. The Federal carry law was enacted because an a convicted asshole shot and killed a Police Officer is his driveway as he was getting ready to go to work. The weapon that you carry is for your own protection as well as to protect another's life. The so called rules should not superceded the law. Today it's Soldier's Field...tomorrow it will be businesses and stores...eventually it will be off-duty. I strongly support Conceal Carry for civilians...but the rules that apply to them can be more restrictive under some circumstances. This should not apply for Peace Officers. If something ever happened to a Police Officer in an establishment that restricted Officers from carrying...that establishment should be criminally prosecuted as well as sued. Soldiers Field is Chicago Park District property. It does not belong to the NFL. I pay my taxes to support the maintenance of that property and the NFL reaps the benefits. Some out of state fuck job should not be allowed to dictate where I carry. Shame on these Politicians for allowing this to happen also. For the 2nd or 3rd largest Police Force in the United States we really get treated like shit. Texas seems to be the only State that has it's own Citizens at heart. This is the way it should be all over this Country. My hats off to Texas...as well as my deepest respect.
I vote with my MONEY! I don't like the rules then I don't spend my MONEY!
I also drive 20 miles an hour by speed cameras and try to slow traffic near them in my personal car.
I always spend my MONEY else where. Next I will move the hell out of here.
How do you like me now. You have free loaders on one side and people like me on the other side who don't want to go along with it business as usual.
"That's where I'm moving too when I retire......The Great State of Texas!!!!!
10/15/2013 08:42:00 AM"
Texas has the highest school dropout rate
Texas has the lowest high school graduation rate in the country.
•Texas is #4 in teen births in the U.S.,has the highest rate of repeat births to teen mothers in the U.S.
Texas rates #3 in the nation number of people on welfare.
Texas rates #8 of People living below the poverty level.
Illinois rates #29th of people living below the poverty level.
It's a Great State alright.
If the NFL doesn't want us there, hell, we won't go. I'll watch the game from home if I want to see some losers in action. No guns allowed means NO GUNS ALLOWED. And guess what? If they call 9-1-1 for police assistance, since no guns are allowed, wait outside the stadium, and make the complainant come to you, since we aren't allowed entry. Follow their rules to the letter, just like everyone else (except the criminals, that is). After a couple of incidents, my guess is that they will re-think their new policy. Of course, it will be too late, just like the Denny's fiasco.
Anonymous said...
That's where I'm moving too when I retire......The Great State of Texas!!!!!
10/15/2013 08:42:00 AM
Don't think for a second there are no shitheads in Texas. White, black and hispanic shitheads are there. Who keeps death row filled in Texas? Those I just mentioned.
Don't worry NFL.
I wont hunt down scalpers either.
I see them but they have rights.
We all do what we feel is right that is how anarchy starts.
Too bad no one will ever boycott the NFL. If they don't want me there, I don't want them in my home.
European Futball is a better game. You don't have to be a freak to play it. Fuck the NFL! And the majority of slug drugged up degenerates who play in it. Be honest, most belong in prison.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Texas is the only State that can secede from the Union. For 350k you can buy a beautiful 4 thousand square foot home with a couple of acres. Guess what? No savages running amuck. Deep in the heart of Texas!!!!
10/15/2013 09:13:00 PM
No savages running amuck? Think again. Go visit Houston. Look at the smiling faces in the Texas prison system. The same savage is doing the same savage shit down there. Probably not as many but he is there.
TX Law sounds like what LEO's have to go thru when armed at the airport... Nothing wrong with that at all...
Fuck the NFL and their liberal bullshit... Support the Constitution or fuck off...
Rahmmy says,
They want 2nd amendment and their rights, guns, freedom ?
OK, the city shall outlaw weapons all venues that the public travels in.
Every square ince of Chicago will be a gun free zone.
He's anxious for another lawsuit.
Too bad no one will ever boycott the NFL. If they don't want me there, I don't want them in my home.
I boycott them now, by sitting home in my comfortable lounger drinking beer and eating pizza, while watching the games on TV.
It's a safe bet that a lot of you ranting about the National Felon League are the same ones who buy their kid that Ray Lewis Or Vick jersey.I see it with my own eyes where I live.Good job,let your impressionable youngster idolize a sport and it's players that are, besides the NBA, the biggest ambassadors of reprehensible behavior. (Walter Payton and Peyton Manning excluded of course)
Don't think for a second there are no shitheads in Texas. White, black and hispanic shitheads are there. Who keeps death row filled in Texas? Those I just mentioned.
10/15/2013 11:45:00 PM
Yes, home of the ayrian brotherhood, Mexican mafia and black family . I have family that lives in that state and have been down there a number of times. No thanks for me.
How can a private business infringe on my right to carry, a right that SCOTUS reaffirmed yet again? The patients are running the asylum!!
I hope this is sarcasm. While I wouldn't post a sign in MY store denying your rights, I find it perfectly acceptable for shopkeepers to post such signs in their place of business. Property owners rights usurp yours. If you don't like it, don't patronize their business.
On the other hand, the NFL rules for Off-Duty LEO's is bullshit.
With that logic, all we have to do is hang a "Whites Only" sign over our lunch counter?
Anonymous said...
here's an idea , everyone give up their seasons tickets
let the clowns go back to flipping burgers for minimum wage
In theory,great idea ! However , as a life long season ticket holder,this year I unloaded my 2 psl's. Now, mind you,I paid $ 4,600 for the pair in the year 2000. In the year 2013,I sold them for $ 25,000, so make your stand if you need, but there are other chooch's lining up to buy them. I only wish I'da bought a dozen at the time !!!!
Anonymous said...
I think a bigger point here is missing. The Federal law was enacted as well as local and State laws for Peace Officers to carry their weapons off duty for personal protection. You never know who you are going to run into that you arrested for a crime. Wherever you are...you don't know if some whacked out lunatic has a vendetta and wants to kill you or your family. The Federal carry law was enacted because an a convicted asshole shot and killed a Police Officer is his driveway as he was getting ready to go to work. The weapon that you carry is for your own protection as well as to protect another's life. The so called rules should not superceded the law. Today it's Soldier's Field...tomorrow it will be businesses and stores...eventually it will be off-duty. I strongly support Conceal Carry for civilians...but the rules that apply to them can be more restrictive under some circumstances. This should not apply for Peace Officers. If something ever happened to a Police Officer in an establishment that restricted Officers from carrying...that establishment should be criminally prosecuted as well as sued. Soldiers Field is Chicago Park District property. It does not belong to the NFL. I pay my taxes to support the maintenance of that property and the NFL reaps the benefits. Some out of state fuck job should not be allowed to dictate where I carry. Shame on these Politicians for allowing this to happen also. For the 2nd or 3rd largest Police Force in the United States we really get treated like shit. Texas seems to be the only State that has it's own Citizens at heart. This is the way it should be all over this Country. My hats off to Texas...as well as my deepest respect.
10/15/2013 10:23:00 PM
When you attend events at the United Center and Cellular Field you are asked to check your weapon. Once inside the venue you will lock your weapon in a gun locker and the officer retains the key and may pick up his or her weapon after the event. Also if you think that there is not armed security at these events then you are short sighted. Many officers have become their own worst enemies by over consumption of alcohol at these events. You all know this is true and the sins of a few goofs force the issue. It Al-Quaeda wants to detonate a WMD at one of these events, you carrying your weapon inside the venue will not prevent this. If you feel it is your duty to sneak your weapon into a venue so you can feel safe and you get your rocks off by bragging about it on the blog, then you are an idiot. People like that end up being part of the problem and probably won't react to the situation anyway. Oh yeah ... if you do get impaired at a venue and check your weapon, they will gladly hold it for you. Can't send a drunk copper out on the street with a pistol. Unless you want someone from your Dept. to come and get it. Other than that have a nice day...
"Rugby is a better sport anyways."
What? You want to fight????
Supt. McCarthy
Does that go for alderman too?
Several points:
#1: The NFL's advice about players avoiding guns as they cause trouble did not do Washington D-Back Sean Taylor any good. Fatally shot by a burglar in his own house.
#2: 30% of NFL players are convicted felons?? No way. While the NFL may have the largest number of felons, that is because it is the largest rostered sport. It is a very small number. Most of the players are decent people. The NFL is very image conscious and felony record coming out of college will kill one's draft prospects. Get suspended from or kicked off your college team and kiss the pro dream good-by. The NFL does background checks on all prospects "You have a court appearance? Forget getting into the Combine." You're no good to the team if you are in jail. Some do slip thru.
As for Vick, he paid the price. He went to prison, did his probation. Lost about 1/4$B in salary and endorsements. Move on.
Some players are more savvy about their image. A clean image will make you more money off the field than you will make on it. Don't see Detroit Lion Suh in those Chrysler adds anymore, do you?
#3: A time when CPD were never off duty?? No, that may have been what the City wanted the public to think. But recruits were told otherwise. Very emphatically. Because if PO's were on-duty 24/7, any injuries would be IOD and the City would have to indemnify.
#4: No guns in stadiums: Other than the need for you to feel manly, I see no good reason for guns in stadiums. The biggest danger to you is someone spilling his beer on you.
The biggest terrorist threat today is the random mass shootings. Look at the poor shoppers in the latest mall incident.
Everyone has their opinion. Mine is just based on a little more information being on this job. I will not go out in public with my family unless I am armed. I will not go to a venue that boasts that all it's occupants are unarmed.
These things will get more prevalent, not less. Like I said, just my opinion.
#3: A time when CPD were never off duty?? No, that may have been what the City wanted the public to think. But recruits were told otherwise. Very emphatically. Because if PO's were on-duty 24/7, any injuries would be IOD and the City would have to indemnify.
Wrong. Just because it was before your time its existence isn't negated. Or maybe in your mind it is.
F-the Nfl . I wouldn't spend another dime to watch a bunch a people making millions to runaway round and never buy there sport related crap ever again.
Ok,enjoy your hotdog and beer without a care,until the day something critical occurs and decisions are made to allow off duty to responsible carry and not indulge in a beer ,just a hot dog,so until then stick your opinion and hotdog,and shut your pie hole,excuse me for making unnecessary insults and fruitless points,much to do about nothing!
I'm done going to games. I always carry off-duty.
FYI: here are a few comparisons between Houston and Chicago murder numbers. Houston has 2.1 million residents, Chicago has around 2.7 million. Houston has lots of shit areas, but numbers are numbers...unless you're working at the new Ivory Tower... Then you use some silly stat, like fewer shots were fired per murder, so the streets are safer...
Years: 2009 2010 2011 2012
Houston: 287 269 198 216
Chicago: 459 436 435 516
As SCC posted, the fields are generally owned by the government and leased to the NFL team playing there...so how does that not violate peoples' second amendment rights?
I think more states need to pass a preemption statute like Texas but apply it to peace officers AND CCW holders.
#4: No guns in stadiums: Other than the need for you to feel manly, I see no good reason for guns in stadiums. The biggest danger to you is someone spilling his beer on you.
10/16/2013 11:27:00 PM
I have to agree with the writer. I off duty security for the bear games for years and never saw a need for a firearm inside the stadium. To and from the stadium if you are taking public trans is another story.
That is why they include "retired" cops in all these carve outs. Because it will keep your unions and YOU from fighting against laws and goofiness.
Yes, as a retired police officer I must agree with the marine.The anti-gunners always say they are supported by the police when in reality they are only supported by the local police chiefs, not the rank and file. The police chief must support his mayor of lose their job. I have seen more then one instance where a citizen has used a concealed handgun to save their life or the life of another and that person was always treated with respect by the police on the scene. In fact they shook his hand. Every person who is against concealed carry should be required by law to wear a button saying they are gun free and put signs on their homes declaring the house gun free. Wonder how that would work for them??
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