Endorsement Batting Average = Piss Poor
We decided to do a little investigation last night. We dug up a copy of the FOP 2012 Endorsements for the Illinois Senate and House and compared it to the way that those people voted for the recent Pension Bill. We saved the file in case anyone over at FOP decides to take down the web page. The results we educational to say the least:
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We drew a line between the Senate and House endorsements and hi-lighted the people voting "yes." We lined out those who either lost the election or have since left Springfield for the greener pastures of aldrecreature or lobbyist.
- The Senate members endorsed by FOP were 7 out of 7 voting for the bill
- The House members endorsed by FOP were 14 out of 18 voting for the bill
Now we realize that the pension bill in Springfield doesn't affect Chicago's woes. It is going to be used by Rahm as a road map to gut (aka "reform") our pensions at some point, and some of these politicians might have voted as they did knowing that they don't have to face downstate voters - the Machine will keep them relatively safe.
But as we had a presence at the vote this past week, and the FOP is supporting the We Are One organization, and the FOP made it known that this bill wasn't in the best interests of future issues that will directly impact CPD along with other workers, it's disappointing that our organization would endorse people so out of touch with what we determine to be in our best interests.
21-out-of-25, a full 84%, voted in favor of a bill that we made no bones about being against. That either points to:
But as we had a presence at the vote this past week, and the FOP is supporting the We Are One organization, and the FOP made it known that this bill wasn't in the best interests of future issues that will directly impact CPD along with other workers, it's disappointing that our organization would endorse people so out of touch with what we determine to be in our best interests.
21-out-of-25, a full 84%, voted in favor of a bill that we made no bones about being against. That either points to:
- a complete disconnect of those running with our endorsement;
- a catastrophic failure of our Political Action Committee to endorse qualified candidates to vote for the interests of the FOP.
Either scenario needs to be addressed somehow.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
166 Comments:
Since I'm freshly retired, this issue is paramount to me. I'll be working hard to defeat two or three of these useless machine politicians next time out.
Its a bad video scc, funny though…take a look:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kVBn2lPJ_s
what does mcCarthy say????
Too few people running the entire country.....the rest are stuck at every turn...a despicable Chess game at its worst. Politicians who do not give a dam what constituents want..so, in the end..its taxation without representation..taking middle class monies from folks mostly too stupid to realize it....and its way more than money that's being taken. Dump the C-rats.
That took a bit of work, SCC. Thanks for doing our homework for us.
Political Action,
Dan Gorman, Chair
Denis Doherty
Mark Donahue
Bill Dougherty
Fernando Flores Marlon Harvey
Jim McCarthy Tom McDonagh
Pat McGrath Tim Monahan
Tim Moriarty
Glen Popiela
Mike Shields
Damon Stewart
Mike Underwood
Look at that list on the FOP political endorsements, you will soon see most of these IDIOTS coming to your units begging you to vote for them telling you all sorts of BULLSHIT,
Good thing at the recent board meeting that at least a couple board members had enough brains to tell that goof Shields and his lap dog Gorman that no more money to these asshole politicians! too bad they don't see it
Speaking of the list of endorsements, the Sergeant's list is coming out this Friday. I work at Headquarters and I overheard the top brass discussing the final list of Sergeants from the old list. Congratulations to those who made it; you will not have to take part two of the test.
The endorsement were all made by Mark and Bill. Bill are you in need of the extra $1,400 you are getting? Have some dignity and respect for yourself and the membership. Donahue at $75,000 a year plus his pension = approx. $150,000 a year of our union dues.
Throw them all out. Look at the FOP Book inside cover to throw them out.
No one should be endorsed...they should all work for it. One chance, after that they are out if no good. That's it. Americans are too soft, we believe too much and are easily led. Unions point a finger, pick an anointed one and we follow. How dumb...to let others call our vote. They not only call our vote but they know we will oblige. Yuck on us.
"Either scenario needs to be addressed somehow."
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The FOP can either deny ever endorsing these candidates and claim Bill Dougherty hacked the web site or else the Board can claim they meant to say they did NOT endorse them and some secretary, now fired, made a mistake.
If that doesn't work, the FOP Board can vote to un-endorse the candidates.
What is the FOP paying Mark Donahue $75.000 a year to be our lobbyist? Mark failed. All of his buddies from the 19th Ward voted for the state pension bill. Markie you are done either way.
Hey Coppers Your DUES $$$$ at work!
Thanks Shields Capparelli for
Nothing!!!
Throw Coppers under the Pension Bus Vote the Rats Out including current FLOP Leadershit
Or,
#3) People we endorsed that fear Mike Madigan more then they fear their constituents.
most disappointing is eddie acevedo. you areNOT a COP. you are a treacherous demo-RAT. I have known you ed, for over 20 years in 10. its good you don't show your face here. karmas a bitch. like you.
CPD pensions are modest compared to other police pensions.
For those born after 1955 who do not receive the 3% COLA, they have no inflation protection and retiree buying power will erode during their most vulnerable years.
The problem is not overly generous benefits but inadequate funding.
I'd like to see the public response to a proposal to strip the COLA from Social Security.
Do not know why you keep endorsing and then voting for the Demorats.
Republicans are not much better sometimes, but state is controlled by Demorats.
Whatever damage is done by those currently in the House and Senate CANNOT be stopped or undone. (Madigan indicated months ago that the state Supreme court was already swayed.) But God help all of us if there are not sincere efforts to unseat each and every one of those that cast a vote to diminish the pension of a union member. Pretty sure we will see ballots cast "differently" when city pensions come up for a vote. Results, however, will be the same.
The problem is that there are no candidates on our side.
Both parties operate for the same interests and right now, public employees are the scapegoat.
Fucking us is the final step in destroying the middle class to further enrich the elites.
All we can do is vandalize the system as best we can.
Bathe in hatred every day you wake up.
Are the PENSIONS of All ILLINOIS POLITICIANS being restructured also?
Never a good idea to give money to whores.
21-out-of-25, a full 84%, voted in favor of a bill that we made no bones about being against. That either points to:
a complete disconnect of those running with our endorsement;
a catastrophic failure of our Political Action Committee to endorse qualified candidates to vote for the interests of the FOP.
Why would you say either?
People who must be target for defeat in the upcoming elections are RAHM, CULLERTON and MADIGAN. Beating these three would be like cutting off the head of a poisonous snake. I can only hope that the unions stick together and support candidates who oppose those three evil Democrats. I am retired and live out of state, but I would come back to work against those three jagoffs.
Big changes, and I mean big changes are coming this Friday.
Also the Sgt. list with 400 names will be published too.
I have a crystal ball in my mom's basement. When I tell you that big changes are coming, I really mean it. Prepare for big changes next Monday, I mean this Friday.
If the city goes bankrupt we can lose our pensions completely. The Tribune editorial today about Detroit's pensions is definitely an eye opener. It now becomes a big game of "chicken" between the unions and Rahm, with Rahm holding the "bankruptcy" card. The final option will be reduced benefits or no pension at all.
MORE CONTACT CARDS!!!
I will vote for the nobody from now on!
The problem is people voting for someone en masse because some organization or publication tells them that is the right thing to do. Bullshit. Educate yourselves and research candidates and issues, then vote for the candidate that most closely represents your views. Such candidate probably doesn't exist these days, but at least you tried and can carry on an intelligent conversation. Then go and bitch and moan all you want.
I hope everyone in the 19th ward sees what a lying piece of shit Fran Hurley and Cunningham are. Talking all her shit about her constituents being cops and firemen and that she wouldn't do that, while trying to get herself elected. Nothing but a lying fucking puppet.
Keep electing retired officers to represent you!
With little skin in the game except the retirement checks retiree candidates will cave in on uniform allowances,hours worked, and other matter that they have no worries about.
But if that make sense to you then we are doomed.
And that whole Shields team dropped the ball.
Even if they're voted out of office they'll still get their pensions and we're screwed either way...but I'm definitely voting against any of them that I can....I know a lot of FD are upset with Fran Hurley...she used them to get in and now can't wait to screw them....
This is just the first step. We are next.
It sure is funny timing that the pension vote in Springfield came just two days after the filing deadline for canidates running for office. They could vote with no worry about someone running against them. Madigan is no dumbie.
http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/December-2013/michael-madigan/
Illinois Politicians take us for granted, they do not fear us because they think we are part of the Machine. The last time FOP actively went after a judge was over 25 years ago. Instead of tell us who they endorse, we should be deciding a planning whom we will unseat.
Fop endorses who the 19th ward tells them to
Voter registration drive. It's the only thing that worries a politician.
At least FOP didn't sell out directly - like the Sergeants.
The Irish in Edison Park vote like the Blacks do. If given the choice of a satanic Irish person or a reasonable non Irish, well you know how that goes.
An FOP endorsement is politically meaningless.
Damit, who can I blame for the bad things that happen to me?
To all the political experts out there. Guess what. The mere pittances that FOP throws at these politicians aren't enough to get them to really do anything. You get what you pay for.
All they care about are their political careers and lets face facts coppers do not vote. Shit, I'll bet 95% of you didn't even bother to pick up a phone and call your state rep or senator. Even better I'll bet most of you don't even know their names.
Ask the PO's not plugged into the Democratic party that have run for political office how "legit" the FOP Political Action Committee has been over the past two regimes?
Solution.....Vote every person currently associated with FOP Leadership out, as well as any family members attempting to get paid!!!
Then vote in legit sons of bitches.
Heard recently that a bill is stuck in house committee which would allow Shields to collect his salary as FOP President once he would retire. If this is true then there is no arguing that Mike Shields only cares about himself and himself alone. I am disgusted. Mike Shields receiving his FOP presidential salary once he retires is outrageous. He is has used his office to line his own pockets and waste all of our hard owned Money. We as members of FOP should not be made to look like fools and need to vote in this next election to get him out. If this Shields has the balls to come to my roll call asking me to vote for him I will walk out of roll call and so will my the others on the Watch. Mike, I have no clue how you can walk into these roll calls because people are livid with your actions and and ineptness. You have sabotaged our Union. I honestly can not believe that you have not been removed from office. You lied to everyones face that you got the Union paper work in to receive retro. You lied Shields. Now you want have a bill in house committee which would allow you to collect your FOP salary when you retire. That Bill will go no where and you think your slick by doing this behind our backs?
Watch the clip below of our ballet dancing mayor. around the 47 sec mark he mentions his dancing experience. Weird. 25 million! unreal
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/clout/chi-george-lucas-mellody-hobson-donate-25-million-to-maggie-daley-after-school-group-20131204,0,6310963.story
Thanks for the list. Now we need to stop any and all contributions to politicians that don't help our cause. That's the only way we can show that we mean business.
This whole pension bill and vote by our fearless leaders is a con. Madigan knows that the courts will rule it unconstitutional, but now it looks like they fixed everything just in time for the elections. And the game goes on...
And how many of there two faced rats took our money and made "jackasses" out of us?
Cmon SCC even you have to admit your percentage is based on only one issue. And yes I do appeciate the importance of this one issue.
no supervision on cpd , as a dick every crime scene has officers in 3 uniforms , goatee beards , dreadlocks , blondes with pony tail , sgt and lt are blind
might be merit hacks
12/04/2013 11:57:00 PM
If you think that uniform discrepancies are one of the top 10 things that need to be addressed by supervisors on this job you are out of your mind. Don't sweat the small stuff. Focus on the little things and miss the big picture.
Fran Hurley and Bill Cunningham turned their back on the people of the 19th ward (Beverly/Mt Greenwood) again with this vole. Its not the first time either, especially when it comes to social issues. But they will continue to be in that Irish parade and in the front pews of the Church like they did nothing wrong because no one will hold them accountable
Hey SCC!
If exposing "certain others" as knee-walking incompetents and traitors who have failed in their duty to put the interests of the membership first doesn't work...
"HEY C'MON! WHY ARE YOU GUYS SO PISSED AT US? Look guys... Be reasonable. You know how it is, right?" >Wink!<
Just like bad bosses caught "en flagrante," these quislings will wave the flag of peace, mercy and understanding...
Kind of like those who swing the gates of the fort open under cover of dark to let the enemy in because of promises made and inferred...
Ironic that after the dust settles, the attack is beaten back and the gates of the fort are again secured, they always plead for peace, mercy and understanding while being poked from under their beds at bayonet point.
What were the rewards for betraying the membership?
Is the whole of FOP hierarchy compromised?
What is up with the failure to aggressively pursue the interests of the membership on all things?
The city is aggressive in promoting everything that is against the interests of the people who constitute the "Thin Blue Line."
The real irony we observe is that all who follow this KNOW there are no mystery "hundreds of thousands of people" lining up to take this shit doo-doo job. Contrary to what the "joyful haters" smugly post at every opportunity.
Everybody that has eyes and ears KNOWS this job has been turned to shit and not by The Policeman's hand either.
Whither thus?
Fran Hurley and Bill Cunningham turned their back on the people of the 19th ward (Beverly/Mt Greenwood) again with this vote, and it isn't the first time, especially when it comes to social issued. Nevertheless they will walk with their heads held high in the St Patricks Day parade and sit in the front pew at Mass like they did nothing wrong because no one here will vote, let alone vote them out. This ward, with all its so called "conservative" cops and firemen went 63% for Obama in the last election
These politicians will say anything to get a vote...remember that boys and girls.
The fucked up thing is that munoz is a copper and he voted for it
Throw them all out. Look at the FOP Book inside cover to throw them out.
And vote for my DAD! Because he only took from our pension fund while he worked a full time job.
From The Reader by Ben Joravsky:
"Just in case, my advice to the police and the firefighters is to counterpunch.
For instance, I'd like to see a big demonstration of cops and firefighters at the corner of Michigan and Cermak, where the mayor's gearing up to waste at least $92 million in TIF dollars on a basketball arena for DePaul and a hotel for Marriott.
C'mon, fellers: if the teachers can fight back, so can you."
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Perhaps the excuse could be that they endorsed people whom they thought would be in our best interest.
With that in mind, next election, don't give any one of them a plug nickel.
Tell them simply, We trusted you and you screwed us."
The old adage, "Fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me."
I've said it many times, who cares who FOP endorses. You have your own mind. Do some research of the candidates and vote on your own. You don't need mommy to hold your hand forever!!!
Most of the Chicago Reps and Senators who voted for State pension reform will not vote to give Rahm a win here in Chicago. That being said WE have to start becoming a political force. That means we get off of our asses and start getting out and going door to door.
The 19th ward had a 75% turnout last election. We have to get that kind of turnout in an additional 5 or 6 wards. I'm pissed that many of endorsed people voted for this but when we give political donations its for future votes. If the vote against us and with Rahm then WE have to go our and field our own candidates. Donahue and Dougherty have to live with Hurley she was their handpicked candidate.
Political 'Monkey Business'
If you start with a cage containing five monkeys and inside the cage, hang a banana on a string from the top and then you place a set of stairs under the banana, before long a monkey will go to the stairs and climb toward the banana.
As soon as he touches the stairs, you spray all the other monkeys with cold water.
After a while another monkey makes an attempt with the same result... all the other monkeys are sprayed with cold water. Pretty soon when another monkey tries to climb the stairs, the other monkeys will try to prevent it.
Now, put the cold water away.
Remove one monkey from the cage and replace it with a new one.
The new monkey sees the banana and attempts to climb the stairs. To his shock, all of the other monkeys beat the crap out of him.
After another attempt and attack, he knows that if he tries to climb the stairs he will be assaulted.
Next, remove another of the original five monkeys, replacing it with a new one.
The newcomer goes to the stairs and is attacked. The previous newcomer takes part in the punishment, with enthusiasm, because he is now part of the "team".
Then, replace a third original monkey with a new one, followed by the fourth, then the fifth. Every time the newest monkey takes to the stairs, he is attacked.
Now, the monkeys that are beating him up have no idea why they were not permitted to climb the stairs. Neither do they know why they are participating in the beating of the newest monkey.
Finally, having replaced all of the original monkeys, none of the remaining monkeys will have ever been sprayed with cold water.
Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.
Why, you ask? Because in their minds...that is the way it has
always been!
This, my friends, is how U.S. Congress and the Illinois House and Senate operates... and this is why, from time to time...
ALL of the monkeys need to be REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME.
You're Welcome
PACs endorse politicians that have a chance of actually winning. They do not want to be seen as endorsing losers.
Worse yet, a couple of these were coppers
"They voted against the reform bill before they voted for it"
See, all better now, where's my endorsement.
And that's some heck of a PAC, endorsing the lesser of another evil. Time to eliminate that FOP committee.
I remember a PO telling me the greatness of one committeeman (FOP endorsed) many years ago named Berrios.
Well, I hear a lot of talk from the unions about not budging one inch and suing. But, I do not hear anything from them on their solutions, solutions that will really work instead of just asking for massive tax increases, something the public will not stand for. There is little or no support by the public for public sector pensions. Both sides must compromise or someday there will be no pensions , and that someday is not far off. Blame anyone you wish, but the crisis is here and here now.
Off topic, but Bratten has been reappointed as NYPD commish. That virtually guarantees that Mccarthy will stay in Chicago for some time to come as McCarthy is his the personal choice for Chicago Super. Bratten callen McCarthy the best police chief in America and that is why Rahm hired him.
Mikey Madigan-----really?
Anonymous said...
Shields is weak, he stood up to huberman, not getting a pension, made a video of it got elected! The dirty secret is mike shields is also the name of another mike shields boss who left CPD and came back, so some voters thought they were voting for the other mike shields!
12/04/2013 08:11:00 AM
If you are too stupid to do some research to actually see and know who you are voting for and not just voting for a name then you shouldn't be voting period.
http://my.chicagotribune.com/#section/544/article/p2p-78442073/
Mayor treaurer hunter rahm finds another 500 MILLION for Cta rehab! Thought we were broke? Same ship simply shifting the chairs around! He complains about the 600 million the city is required to give the pension fund, after all the years of theft from his elected crew. The city obviously has billions in hidden funds but rahm and his criminal crew want to give away our money to his family and friends crew! Hoping and praying new u.s. Attorney fardon is getting his team ready,along with the new leader of the FBI to hunt city hall and indict many of these blatant criminals!
Bill Bratton just accepted the job as New York Police Commissioner. Guess we are really stuck with McCarthy.
Do other major metro departments run into these same problems? If not what are they doing that we are not. Joking and self loathing aside we are smart enough to make a change.
O/T
NYC Mayor-Elect de Blasio has chosen William Bratton to succeed Raymond "Popeye" Kelly as NYPD PC.
There's no * by Rep Mike McAuliffe of the 20th District. His father was State Rep Roger McAuliffe also a Chicago Police Officer. Roger was a stand up guy & is turning over in his grave because of his son's vote!! Let's just call him "JUDAS"!!!
I take responsibility for rubber stamping these whores while on the Political Action Commitee. Not all showed up for the endorsement, but the ones that did lied to everyone in attendance at these meetings. Pro police and fire, obviously not. We as the committee, fucked up and hopefully learned a lesson that these misfits are not our friends, only during election season. Sorry folks.
WSIDN, what say you??????
I'm willing to bet these same idiots voted against conceal carry, and voted in favor of same sex marriages! The bigger shame is that they have no courage, and will do whatever the machine tells them.
NEWS FLASH
Fox news source says Bratton to get NYPD top job.
That will put to rest some speculation of McCarthy's future if true.
FOP should keep their poliitical opinions to themselves. Tired of this so-called "Union" representing me. Buncha fuckin Morons. In Bed with City Hall for Decades, and will allow us to get fucked every time if ther puppetmasters at City Hall say so. A Great Bullshit Talk-Show in Opposition, then they allow us to get Hosed, every time. Fuckin Losers. Embarrased to be a Member.
why is the unit rep from 9th district jakstabitch going around spreading rumors aon all that oppose shields? could it be he is a handjob puppet for mikey? and is running scared of his bowling party being exposed?
let start with shaving the multiple pensions of pols.the pols that are still working and are very wealthy!#2 the government admits at least 40% fraud in welfare/link entitlement programs. fix it!#3 we have quite a few illegals here collecting ''free stuff''. we cannot afford the endless freebee wagon. the pension mess WAS CREATED BY THE POLS! the other messes were also. the working people/shrinking middle class are under attack! people are fleeing this state.
OT
http://www.policeone.com/police-administration/articles/6647013-Bratton-selected-as-NYPD-Commissioner-again/
Maybe McStache might get homesick eh?
Eddie and Tony are both going to collect two pensions each. One from CPD and the other from the State. Since they are all about reform, why don't they give up one those pensions and save the tax payer some money. Yeah right!!!!!!
I mean absolutely zero disrepect for posting this - love our public servants - but I just don't get it.
1) Where has your union leadership been? Why did they allow the city to skip funding the pensions? It was plain as day what was going on - why did your union leadership allow it?
2) Let's not forget that every single contract that has been signed the last 25 years has had DEMANDS for higher pay, higher perks, etc. How did the city fund this? By cutting pension contributions. It was a tit-for-tat that your own union leaders (elected by the rank!) accepted.
3) Once the city's pension contribution went to zero, the only way to fund the DEMANDS for higher pay and perks was to cave in, but to offset these higher costs by cutting the workforce, raising taxes, red light cameras, speed cameras, soda taxes, parking taxes, etc, etc, etc which...
4) led to fewer boots on the ground, higher crime, and eventual cries from the ranks that "we're undermanned!"
As this average citizen sees it, your own union leadership - elected by you - negotiated your way right into this shitty situation with the "wink-wink" that the boys in Springfield would step in and take care of you if you just voted for them. Now they are sticking a knife in your back because THE PARTY IS OVER. They got what they wanted (YOUR votes = their political careers).
On top of this Obama's own FEDERAL RESERVE has all but guaranteed that pensions are they are today have ZERO hope for ever being solvent since they have committed to zero rates for years to come. How do you fund a pension that assumes 7%+ returns a year when 30 year US bonds yield under 4%? YOU DON'T.
So time to stop folding arms and screaming "don't touch my pension" because the next step will be to have a court-forced pension cram-down when Chicago declares bankrputcy.
Bratton back in at NYPD. Guess were stuck with McDrunkin.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Are the PENSIONS of All ILLINOIS POLITICIANS being restructured also?
12/05/2013 05:38:00 AM
Are you insane? Not a single legislator nor judge will be harmed by their new laws. This is how they got the entire sham passed in the first place.
OT: But do my sisters and brothers in Blue want Mr. 10 G's winners this weekend. Fine Kids just answer the following question and will give you WINNERS. QUES: How many yards are there on an OFFICIAL NFL FIELD?
Maybe none of you know this, but the reason most legislators voted against the bill is because it did not go far enough. Be careful what you wish for.
This DEVIL mayor is going back to Springfield in January.
Just in case anyone forgot, he wanted to JAM a bill thru in 2012 which would increase the minimum age for POLICE and FIRE to retire to age 60.
check the sun time article:
http://www.suntimes.com/news
/cityhall/12396286-418/rahm-emanuel-taxes-in-chicago-will-soar-without-pension-reforms.html
Anyone on the Southwest Side that voted for Madigan start punching yourself, and don't stop until I say so.
START.
All City and State workers on the Northwest Side.
Remember these Names at Election time,
John Mulroe State Senate and
Michael McAuliffe State Rep.
Vote for the person that runs against them.
They have done good by us in the past, but this Pension Bill Vote wiped that all away.
Anonymous said...
Shields is weak, he stood up to huberman, not getting a pension, made a video of it got elected! The dirty secret is mike shields is also the name of another mike shields boss who left CPD and came back, so some voters thought they were voting for the other mike shields!
12/04/2013 08:11:00 AM
Shields did not step up to Huberman. He was spoon fed all the information and took advantage of a setup photo-op. All Shields did is show that day with a guy with a camera. Big fucking deal. Shields did not dig up the info, he did no heavy lifting. That is truth my brother.
Do to Politicians what they have done to you.....
Promise them your Vote,
then when it's election day, recind your promise and your vote.
Anonymous said...
Off topic, but Bratten has been reappointed as NYPD commish. That virtually guarantees that Mccarthy will stay in Chicago for some time to come as McCarthy is his the personal choice for Chicago Super. Bratten callen McCarthy the best police chief in America and that is why Rahm hired him.
12/05/2013 10:48:00 AM
Oh yeah? Well the "best police chief in America" was the right hand guy for NYPD Commish Bernard Kerik, who went to prison. You mean to tell me the "best police chief in America" didn't know the inside shit about his boss? Please, spare me. Now go put that tooth under your pillow and wait for the tooth fairy to leave you a bright shiny quarter.
"no supervision on cpd , as a dick every crime scene has officers in 3 uniforms , goatee beards , dreadlocks , blondes with pony tail , sgt and lt are blind
might be merit hacks'
12/04/2013 11:57:00 PM
like the job is on the legit?.....from salary, to benefits, to what might be coming in pensions, assignments, promotions....any wonder why uniform standards went to hell, along with the democratic politicians, and the hacks at 35th Street?
McAullife, Mulroe and O'Connor three traitors in the NW side. Obama won in the 41 St ward in the last election, by over 2000 votes. Say what you want about Brian Doherty, but he always voted for cop and fire issues in our interests. He was a stand up guy, like Roger McAullife. Now we ave these three goofs representing us. Vote out all these hacks no matter where they are from. 41, 45, or 19 th wards.
Anonymous said...
no supervision on cpd , as a dick every crime scene has officers in 3 uniforms , goatee beards , dreadlocks , blondes with pony tail , sgt and lt are blind
might be merit hacks
Unlike the D units that are well supervised and all the dets are properly dressed in a suit and tie, always well shaven and no pony tails
To all of CPD, both retired and sworn:
Mike Shields no doubt is on the side of Mayor Rahm Emaunel . I can not stress that enough. We are all cop's either currently or retired and we need to wake up. Mike Shields did not just "forget" to put the proper paper work in on time for a retro check. Mike Shields literally saved the City by his own actions 10's of million's of dollars. Mike did this all on propose. Do not for one second believe him when he said he forgot. Trust your gut Officers. We are not foolish and he thinks the FOP membership are all fool's. Mr. Shields is a total fraud and his word means nothing. He saved the city serious amounts of Money. Ask yourself after reading this post, Do you think he just forgot to get that letter in on time? Officers we are talking about saving the city millions. He did the Mayor a huge huge favor. It will never go unnoticed by the Mayor. If Mike does not get re elected just watch where he goes. It will not be to a beat car. He will land well. How do you just forget? Below are some other links to make you look at just to make you all think about this. Where there is smoke there is Fire. Shields slamming the Mayor in the media is all a distraction and we need to not believe any of it at.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/19372692-452/police-union-boss-on-payroll-of-big-rahm-emanuel-campaign-donor.html
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: But do my sisters and brothers in Blue want Mr. 10 G's winners this weekend. Fine Kids just answer the following question and will give you WINNERS. QUES: How many yards are there on an OFFICIAL NFL FIELD?
12/05/2013 03:52:00 PM
You're a blog hog. Go start your own, if you're so desperate for attention.
Anonymous said...
Bratton back in at NYPD. Guess were stuck with McDrunkin.
12/05/2013 03:45:00 PM
His contract is up this Spring, so who cares.
So time to stop folding arms and screaming "don't touch my pension" because the next step will be to have a court-forced pension cram-down when Chicago declares bankrputcy.
12/05/2013 03:33:00 PM
Knock it off with the scare tactics. Chicago isn't about to declare bankruptcy. Rahm wouldn't cut himself off at the knees like that. As long as there is TIF money, as long as there is 490million available to spruce up the Blue Line, Chicago isn't going bankrupt.
Real estate has turned around, which means more tax income and more TRANSFER tax income (which the City lives and dies on). Money is flowing again. The market is repeatedly hitting 'all time highs'.
Rahm is just trying to terrify the good citizens into backing his schemes to break our pensions and our unions. Guaranteed, once he does it, the casinos will come into Chicago and all that cash that could have saved our pension will go into a whole bunch of silk-lined pockets, as they laugh at us during their cocktail parties on the penthouse levels of Chicago.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
no supervision on cpd , as a dick every crime scene has officers in 3 uniforms , goatee beards , dreadlocks , blondes with pony tail , sgt and lt are blind
might be merit hacks
12/04/2013 11:57:00 PM
If you think that uniform discrepancies are one of the top 10 things that need to be addressed by supervisors on this job you are out of your mind. Don't sweat the small stuff. Focus on the little things and miss the big picture.
12/05/2013 08:51:00 AM
How about focusing on BOTH. Because, if you don't think attention to uniforms and appearance and presentation are important, you're ignorant of what constitutes a well-run organization. A certain level of conformity is necessary. This isn't art school or the music industry.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The fucked up thing is that munoz is a copper and he voted for it
12/05/2013 09:05:00 AM
That's because his legislator's pension is secure, so he won't mind if his police pension is diminished.
Let US use this list of "enemies" to target for unemployment...VOTE THESE FUCKERS OUT AND SEND A MESSAGE.
Hey - we're not going to enjoy the status quo. I was 100% for voting no no no until I realized that we may, in 10 years or so, become Detroit - hoping to get 4 cents on the dollar. It's unfair, yes, but face facts - I think the Unions are only placating the members - they see and understand the writing on the wall.
Anonymous said...
OT: But do my sisters and brothers in Blue want Mr. 10 G's winners this weekend. Fine Kids just answer the following question and will give you WINNERS. QUES: How many yards are there on an OFFICIAL NFL FIELD?
12/05/2013 03:52:00 PM
Does your mom know you are constantly on the computer?
12/05/2013 05:00:00 AM
Because it seems to me that the FLOP buys their bullshit and has no gag reflex.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/watchdogs/19372692-452/police-union-boss-on-payroll-of-big-rahm-emanuel-campaign-donor.html
Off topic, but Bratten has been reappointed as NYPD commish.
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These Bastards just can't stop stealing.
This guy is pushing 70 years old.
Maybe, the candidates seeking the FOP's endorsement, say one thing, and do another? It wouldn't be the first time that a politician lied.
Catastrophic failure? That's the FOP Shields, Dougherty and Donahue. A failure on so many levels.
Yeah, and most of them voted for same sex marriage...so much about representing their constituencies.
I don't blame them for endorsing Madigan, though. Not because is is a good guy.
But because he is not.
no supervision on cpd , as a dick every crime scene has officers in 3 uniforms , goatee beards , dreadlocks , blondes with pony tail , sgt and lt are blind
might be merit hacks
12/04/2013 11:57:00 PM
If you think that uniform discrepancies are one of the top 10 things that need to be addressed by supervisors on this job you are out of your mind. Don't sweat the small stuff. Focus on the little things and miss the big picture.
Must be Northside dick. Northsiders pimpy!
In my district the Lt talks about yellow vests and tells us to put tampons in dudes bullet wounds. He teaches a study group to only his 06 car people and has over 40 homicide arrests from his experience as a hazmat trainer from SOS or TRU or wherever he sat inside eating and dreaming. He is not a sellout and has a stellar career just ask him thogh he claimed years ago in safe summer he sparred over a 1000 coppers for pimpy shit. Good man... Heard when he retires his party will be held in a porto-potty to accommodate all that care about his career!
Anonymous said...
no supervision on cpd , as a dick every crime scene has officers in 3 uniforms , goatee beards , dreadlocks , blondes with pony tail , sgt and lt are blind
might be merit hacks
12/04/2013 11:57:00 PM
If you think that uniform discrepancies are one of the top 10 things that need to be addressed by supervisors on this job you are out of your mind. Don't sweat the small stuff. Focus on the little things and miss the big picture.
12/05/2013 08:51:00 AM
And as a street supervisor for 18 years, I've never seen a more incompetent group of so-called detectives in my 29 year career. A bunch of political hacks who now think they're the real deal because they wear a trench coat.
Don't get me wrong, there's still plenty of decent detectives but also a lot of clowns who think they're above the P.O.'s. Get over yourselves!
Cap our pensions at 100k. That would save some dough. Oh the white shirts would bitch huh? Too bad the FOP doesn't represent them; as they are constantly reminded by MLAS and Judges.
When these clowns went to the FOP for the endorsement should the first question our clowns asked is where do you stand on the pension problem? Didn't Shields and Donahue see this coming?
Anonymous said...
Fran Hurley and Bill Cunningham turned their back on the people of the 19th ward (Beverly/Mt Greenwood) again with this vote, and it isn't the first time, especially when it comes to social issued. Nevertheless they will walk with their heads held high in the St Patricks Day parade and sit in the front pew at Mass like they did nothing wrong because no one here will vote, let alone vote them out. This ward, with all its so called "conservative" cops and firemen went 63% for Obama in the last election
12/05/2013 09:01:00 AM
And they'll get elected AGAIN because their constituents will vote straight Democratic, as they always do.
Idiots.
At the north side retiree breakfast Wednesday Mike Shields and Dean Angelo were sitting together getting along famously. Me thinks Dean the Dream is a shill, especially when Dean Jr. Votes with Shields on every issue.
why is the unit rep from 9th district jakstabitch going around spreading rumors aon all that oppose shields? could it be he is a handjob puppet for mikey? and is running scared of his bowling party being exposed?
12/05/2013 02:12:00 PM
Handjob for sure.
Anonymous said...
no supervision on cpd , as a dick every crime scene has officers in 3 uniforms , goatee beards , dreadlocks , blondes with pony tail , sgt and lt are blind
might be merit hacks
12/04/2013 11:57:00 PM
If you think that uniform discrepancies are one of the top 10 things that need to be addressed by supervisors on this job you are out of your mind. Don't sweat the small stuff. Focus on the little things and miss the big picture.
12/05/2013 08:51:00 AM
I look forward to the day when a real boss takes over CPD and knocks them back to 1990 para-military uniform standards and everybody looks like professional police officer. 80/20's, round crown hat with proper hair cut/style standards, clean shaven, and if you have more than a mustache on your face you better have a "bump card" in your pocket. The city would save millions of dollars handing out, out of uniform suspensions on a daily basis.
I have no respect for a sloppy, dirty, unshaven, "wear whatever I want " police officer. The uniforms and bad boy/girl looks are what make you the laughing stock of policing.
Too bad Bratton went back to NYPD, I would have loved to have him as CPD superintendent. Under Bratton you would have had a chance a becoming a real police department. Now you're stuck with McCarthy and this new modern day "I don't give a fuck" police department where dreadlocks, goatees, beards and dirty uniforms are the norm as long as you bring in contact cards.
CPD was once the model for policing, now it's the biggest joke of policing.
Good luck CPD. I once respected you, now I just laugh at you.
Pat Murray says
"Do you believe these guys"
To 3:33
Sir you are an imbecile.
1. First when I took this job I took a pay cut. Everyone I trained at my last job was making a 6 figure income in the early 2000's when i was mas making in the 70's. Yes it was my choice and today they make what i make but are increasing there pay every day. They told me I was stupid to take the CPD job.
2. Pay increases. You imbecile.. Look at our pay raises compared to the average pay raise in the city of Chicago. You will see that we are below the AVERAGE RAISE.
3. You imbecile... Yes we all paid higher taxes. Including the police that are forced to live in this shit hole. But guess what, you imbecile the taxes DID NOT GO INTO THE PENSIONS. Cpd, Cfd were paid to the minimum, Daley paid Zero into the teachers fund for 10 years. But guess what... He took money out. The criminal Vaneko family stole 47 million from our pensions.
4. Fewer boots on the ground. My ass you imbecile. Daley and Rham compare us to L.A and NY. NY has 0ver 25 thousand, police, they have a seperate transit police, Port Authority Police, Airport police dept. . LA has a police dept of around 10 thousand, Airport police dept and a Sheriff Dept of around 7 thousand. The Sheriff police patrol LA. CPD covers everything. City, airport,mass transit and the water ways.
Facts...
1. The city has 2 billion in Tif funds.
2. Every year the city replenishes the TIF funds between 4-6 million.
3. The city has allocated 1.5 Billion of the TIF funds to nonsense projects. Maggie park, bike lanes, river walks Miegs field, giving companies milllions to build skyscapers( look at Wolf point on the river}, canoe boat houses, Mal. X college and on and on.
4. CPD does not get compounded interest. Cpd born before 1955 gets 1.5 simple interest.
5. All of the politicians stole pension money.Daley, Madigan, Culerton to enrich themselves and friends company's.
6.Rauner who wants all unions in a 401K made his millions by investing pension funds and 401k's. So guess which investment firms will get the new 401k money. HMMMMM maybe Rauner's buddies.
Elect me mayor and tommorow we will no longer be in debt.
2Billion in TIF funds
1. Stop all TIF construction projects.
2. Pay off the 350 million dollar budget debt. BUDGET BALANCED
3. Pay the 600 million that is owed the pension funds. PENSIONS SECURED
3. Use remaining 1 Billion for needed projects and keep at least 500 million in reserves.
WOW THAT WAS HARD
So u sir you are an imbecile. I will never vote republican(RICH) for they want to take my pension. I will never vote Democrat(ENRICH THEMSELVES and POOR) because they stole my pension.
We need a middle class party now or else the whole middle class is doomed.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: But do my sisters and brothers in Blue want Mr. 10 G's winners this weekend. Fine Kids just answer the following question and will give you WINNERS. QUES: How many yards are there on an OFFICIAL NFL FIELD?
12/05/2013 03:52:00 PM
Come on now, is it a field or a yard? Make up your mind.
Mike Shields receiving his FOP presidential salary once he retires is outrageous. He is has used his office to line his own pockets and waste all of our hard owned Money.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Your full of shit. Post the link here to the bill in Springfield.
Rahm only hates Shields a little less than he hates Karen Lewis and a little more than he hates Mary Ann Ahern.
In fact I asked Donahue about getting the Gold Braid salaries out of our pension and he said no dice. The city fought this tooth and nail as it their way to reward their yes men/women. If Mark could not have gotten it done for himself it isn't getting done.
The fact that Donahue is not getting the 3% cola because he was born after 01 Jan 55 shows how ineffectual he is a lobbyist.
How about focusing on BOTH. Because, if you don't think attention to uniforms and appearance and presentation are important, you're ignorant of what constitutes a well-run organization. A certain level of conformity is necessary. This isn't art school or the music industry.
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Then why are our 'elite' officers allowed to walk around in Carhart jackets and painter jeans looking like Eddie Vedder?
Full of SHIT! ALL of em R Full of SHIT!
BD has been the the number 2 guy for my entire time on this hell ride.
The current head of Lodge 7 is a kid that made kid mistakes. He didn't break glass & came over to apologize. He selfishly placed his "spot" over that of our collective bargaining power. No retro for one entire year, childish in fighting, Capt's pay over that of the membership.
Both of em(all of em)R 1 huge WOW hole surprise till we can "collectively" get em out
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Shields is weak, he stood up to huberman, not getting a pension, made a video of it got elected! The dirty secret is mike shields is also the name of another mike shields boss who left CPD and came back, so some voters thought they were voting for the other mike shields!
12/04/2013 08:11:00 AM
Shields did not step up to Huberman. He was spoon fed all the information and took advantage of a setup photo-op. All Shields did is show that day with a guy with a camera. Big fucking deal. Shields did not dig up the info, he did no heavy lifting. That is truth my brother.
12/05/2013 04:48:00 PM
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Most of the people have not got a clue. Stephanie Neely the City Treasurer hates Mike Shield with a passion. That's the best endorsement the kid could ever get!
RE: uniform standards.
We are far from a professional , proud department. So why pretend to be. No one cares anymore. Job blows. It's ruined.
Anonymous said...
At the north side retiree breakfast Wednesday Mike Shields and Dean Angelo were sitting together getting along famously. Me thinks Dean the Dream is a shill, especially when Dean Jr. Votes with Shields on every issue.
12/05/2013 07:14:00 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
A good guess is that you are Donahue guy?
Maybe the kid votes with Shields guys because it is the right vote for the membership. This was Dougherty's election to lose. What he did to the vet was bad enough. But when he went to Shields and wanted to be on his ticket if Shields would dump DiMaria in favor Bailey that showed Bill's true colors. I'll bet Donahue went nuts when he heard that.
Billy will not get 50% the first time around. You can go to the bank that whoever finished third if it's not Billy will support the other guy.
The fact that Donahue is not getting the 3% cola because he was born after 01 Jan 55 shows how ineffectual he is a lobbyist.
12/05/2013 09:38:00 PM
It would have been asinine to pursue that cola upgrade, considering the economic climate. Even at the retirement seminars, they talked about how it would only be pursued AFTER the economy turned around because the politicians couldn't excuse bringing it to a vote before then.
Anonymous said...
OT: But do my sisters and brothers in Blue want Mr. 10 G's winners this weekend. Fine Kids just answer the following question and will give you WINNERS. QUES: How many yards are there on an OFFICIAL NFL FIELD?
12/05/2013 03:52:00 PM
Does your mom know you are constantly on the computer?
12/05/2013 05:53:00 PM
yeah, but she thinks i'm playing minecraft.
When it came to pensions, state officials looked out for No. 1
Lawmakers took care of themselves in 1989 pension revamp
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012-05-25/news/ct-met-pensions-legislators-20120525_1_pension-system-general-assembly-retirement-system-pension-benefits
rb
stop with the "para-military" standards of the old days nonsense.
I grew up looking at cops who looked like crap along side the cops who tried presenting themselves with authority.
That's not the entirety or the make or break of what commands respect.
We could all look like goose steppers out of some fascist nightmare but as long as the lawyers, politicians and bleeding hearts have us muzzled and whispering 'namaste' to gangbangers under threat of separation for some hidden video that shows us not reciting poetry and making sure to give out footrubs, thugs will continue to shoot each other over 2 dollar dice games.
I will shave my goatee beard that is such an affront to the haloed halls of CPD policing when there is discipline for unnatural hair shades, dreadlocks with seashells and dangling ponytails.............crickets...........crickets.......
I'm waiting........
Anonymous said...
All City and State workers on the Northwest Side.
Remember these Names at Election time,
John Mulroe State Senate and
Michael McAuliffe State Rep.
Vote for the person that runs against them.
They have done good by us in the past, but this Pension Bill Vote wiped that all away.
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Dude, I'm a total political junkie, and the Indo-Pak Democrat kid running against McAuliff is the worse possible choice for America. That's the way the combine works, McAuliff was insulated on this vote. The city needs to go bankrupt and then the fires and pitchforks will come out. Justice will be dispensed by the mob.
These elected officials are more afraid of Madigan than they are of us. But when Rahm’s bill comes up in January or June they will vote for us. Hurley will not vote against us either if she wants to be re-elected. But she should have never been elected in the first place. We should have gone for the other candidate. And if your think the money we donate to these people worried them your nuts. SIEU gave Quinn 2.5 million last election. He will lose that type of money if he does not do an amendatory veto on the Park District Bill.
Also while everyone was watching Springfield Dougherty’s friends on the board of directors were try to sneak in a bill to continue to give Dougherty D5 pay for three more months. But being cowards they wanted to do it on a secret ballot. When they had to do a roll call vote it failed. He wound up with the same stipend that Sid Davis and John Capparelli get.
All politics are dirty. The people in Springfield and those at the FOP hall are not that different. Do you really want a ruling class running FOP like Springfield? I posted a couple things joking about the old CityWide team trying to have a 1000 year Reich. It was a joke. But the more I think about it seems to be what they want.
So if any of you old times still have your khaki’s from the academy days mail them brown shirts to FOP headquarters C/O Frank DiMaria (aka Sgt. Schultz) as he has nothing to do most days. We especially need a 56 short for Kevin Graham.
Anonymous said...
Mike Shields receiving his FOP presidential salary once he retires is outrageous. He is has used his office to line his own pockets and waste all of our hard owned Money.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Your full of shit. Post the link here to the bill in Springfield.
Rahm only hates Shields a little less than he hates Karen Lewis and a little more than he hates Mary Ann Ahern.
In fact I asked Donahue about getting the Gold Braid salaries out of our pension and he said no dice. The city fought this tooth and nail as it their way to reward their yes men/women. If Mark could not have gotten it done for himself it isn't getting done.
The fact that Donahue is not getting the 3% cola because he was born after 01 Jan 55 shows how ineffectual he is a lobbyist.
12/05/2013 09:38:00 PM
Mike is the same guy who saved the city 10's of millions of dollars. Do not me naive
To the ads who says that our Union or for that matter local 2 president gets a pension based on their union salary, your lack of knowledge and intelligence makes me sad. Not because I feel sorry for your ignorant ads but because your vote counts the same as mine. That sir tells me there is no justice. I propose that an IS test be required before you can vote and an IQ far above yours be the minimum required to allow anyone to vote.
I just hope to God that Police Officers don't really believe all these posts from the other five or more Presidential wanna be`s. The current President made a mistake in not sending that "letter" but we are going to get any retro pay awarded by the arbitrator , they damage done by all these other Presidential wanna be`s is going to hurt us far more than than any loss of supposed retro pay. Do we have such short memories that we have forgotten the 16% originally offered to us as opposed to the 10% we wound up getting. Now that really was six percent loss of retro pay but I hear no call to get a rope to lynch Dougherty and Donahue for that. Strange silence on that matter on this blog, could it be that all these posts about the non existent loss of retro pay is being posted by the two who lost it and their team.? Think before you vote Ladies and Gentlemen, if Rahm wants Mike Shields out of Office but doesn't seem to mind a Bill Dougherty as President, a guy he can work with like " his friend Jim" from the Sgts. Union, then I want Shields in there, because I sure as he'll hate Rahm a lot more than I am displeased with Shields.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/fulltext.asp?DocName=004000050K5-214
(40 ILCS 5/5-214) (from Ch. 108 1/2, par. 5-214)
Sec. 5-214. Credit for other service. Any participant in this fund (other than a member of the fire department of the city) who has rendered service as a member of the police department of the city for a period of 3 years or more is entitled to credit for the various purposes of this Article for service rendered prior to becoming a member or subsequent thereto for the following periods:
(a) While on leave of absence from the police
department assigned or detailed to investigative, protective, security or police work for the park district of the city, the department of the Port of Chicago or the sanitary district in which the city is located.
(b) As a temporary police officer in the city or
while serving in the office of the mayor or in the office of the corporation counsel, as a member of the city council of the city, as an employee of the Policemen's Annuity and Benefit Fund created by this Article, as the head of an organization whose membership consists of members of the police department, the Public Vehicle License Commission and the board of election commissioners of the city, provided that, in each of these cases and for all periods specified in this item (b), including those beginning before the effective date of this amendatory Act of the 97th General Assembly, the police officer is on leave and continues to remain in sworn status, subject to the professional standards of the public employer or those terms established in statute.
I was at the FOP hall the other day and saw Shield's two Lincolns in the parking lot. There's a black, presidential Lincoln with an "S" license plate and a platinum edition with alabaster leather at his disposal. Times are good over there. I'm still driving a 96 Toyota- what am I doing wrong?
Shields should've bought himself one of those Smart cars if he was smart!
but we are going to get any retro pay awarded by the arbitrator ,
One lie, its all a lie. An arbitrator can't give us retro. If it isn't turned around by the courts than its not to happen, unless Rahm gives it to us by the goodness of his heart. Yeah right!
Also while everyone was watching Springfield Dougherty’s friends on the board of directors were try to sneak in a bill to continue to give Dougherty D5 pay for three more months.
You must be one of the few shields followers. I was at that board meeting and that request was made by Dean Angelo. Last I checked his dad was running against Dougherty. By the way 95% of the membership at the general meeting told Shields to put Dougherty back. President's don't fair to well if they don't follow their membership.
"Do we have such short memories that we have forgotten the 16% originally offered to us as opposed to the 10% we wound up getting."
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Do you have such a short memory that you forget that the 16% was contingent on accepting the entire contract offer from the city? I have tried to find it but cannot, there were some fucked up work rule changes, overall it wasn't worth it, it was a bad offer. People only remember the 16%, not the shit that went along with it. We could not cherry pick only the raise.
The City quickly withdrew that offer as the economy went south.
We got two things that we would NOT have gotten through arbitration alone. That was the age 55 retirement with free health care and the 4 and 2 work schedule change.
That 4 and 2 was worth much more than a 16% raise over however many years it was, 5 or 4.
What the 4 and 2 gave us, again, was 18 extra RDO's a year. That is more than a 16% raise right there. That was Jody Weiss that signed off on that without Daley's knowledge and Daley was reportedly fuming over it.
The lodge was right in turning down the package with the 16%, we did better with the age 55 and new work schedule.
Do we forget so quickly what it was like to work 6 days in a row, every week? Then a day of Special Employment, then one lousy day off. 6 and 2 sucked.
Anonymous said...
Mike Shields receiving his FOP presidential salary once he retires is outrageous. He is has used his office to line his own pockets and waste all of our hard owned Money.
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Not true. If you know different, post your information.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The fact that Donahue is not getting the 3% cola because he was born after 01 Jan 55 shows how ineffectual he is a lobbyist.
12/05/2013 09:38:00 PM
We tried for years to get that next birthdate for the COLA. Then the economy tanked and we were told we could get it but what did we want to give back. Legislature said, no new pension enhancements without corresponding funding. We could get a lot if we want to pay for it throughout our career. No one has mentioned going from 9% to pensions up to 12% or 13%. That was talked about but I haven't heard it lately. Want everyone to get the COLA? Want free healthcare for retirees? We will have to pay for it during our working career.
Madigan is the first domino that needs to fall....I'd bet most of them voted for it out of fear of him and that's what they were told to do....
Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.
Why, you ask? Because in their minds...that is the way it has
always been!
This, my friends, is how U.S. Congress and the Illinois House and Senate operates... and this is why, from time to time...
ALL of the monkeys need to be REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME.
You're Welcome
12/05/2013 10:05:00 AM
You must have a lot of time on your hands....and where did you get the monkeys?
Ifto 02:13 AM if you are only a little displeased with Mike Shields you must be his brother Dan. You are posting at this time because you couldn't find a four o'clock joint? You truly are a moron.
Think before you vote Ladies and Gentlemen, if Rahm wants Mike Shields out of Office but doesn't seem to mind a Bill Dougherty as President, a guy he can work with like " his friend Jim" from the Sgts. Union, then I want Shields in there, because I sure as he'll hate Rahm a lot more than I am displeased with Shields
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So how does the Finkel/Raham/Shields arrangement work again?
Sir, your assessment doesn't explain the profiteering of Shields with his security company that serves supeana's with the labor of tac guys from 016 during the Herbert incident!!!!
Legit question:)
Mike is the same guy who saved the city 10's of millions of dollars. Do not me naive
12/06/2013 02:01:00 AM
That will be up to the arbitrator. Donahue/Dougherty/Aguliar cost you a lot more when during the Olympic run-up we turned down 16% and wound up taking 10% two years later. The membership never got to make a decision on that.
And as a street supervisor for 18 years, I've never seen a more incompetent group of so-called detectives in my 29 year career. A bunch of political hacks who now think they're the real deal because they wear a trench coat.
Don't get me wrong, there's still plenty of decent detectives but also a lot of clowns who think they're above the P.O.'s. Get over yourselves!
As a detective for 11 years I have never met so many dumb fuck patrol men and women.
Hey sarge, why don't you spend some time at roll call and remind your troops what their responsibilities are.
And nobody wears a fucking trench coat Columbo.
Every single person that voted against US should be voted OUT...fuck us? Fuck you sir!
...Unlike the D units that are well supervised and all the dets are properly dressed in a suit and tie, always well shaven and no pony tails...
Don't forget Ricchio's elevator shoes!
I was at a retirement seminar and asked Mikey point blank why the FOP endorsed Madigan when he clearly does not care about our interests. Mikey said that if FOP didn't, that Madigan would crush us. So why endorse anyone? Someone at the seminar said that it was not the place to discuss such things.
Really? Really? Short-sighted people, who were more concerned how long it would take their first check to arrive, who could not see the whole picture.
Mikey believes if we don't endorse the candidates who are clearly against us, that we will suffer more of their wrath....clearly, what else could they do to us if we don't endorse them at all?
Exactly what did we get for our endorsement, except for it being stuck to us you know where?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I was at a retirement seminar and asked Mikey point blank why the FOP endorsed Madigan when he clearly does not care about our interests. Mikey said that if FOP didn't, that Madigan would crush us. So why endorse anyone?
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The bills past so far do not affect the CPD. Our pension is in a different article in the state constitution. I'll be the 1st one in front of Madigan's face when he tries to do it to us. Remember two years ago he would not carry Rahm’s water in Springfield. Rahm had Tom Cross R-Plainfield do it. Madigan may let Rahm have to carry his own water. Remember in this last redrawing of district lines Madigan has a whole lot of City workers.
The drunken Mount Greenwood hillbillies, at the general meeting, who wanted Bill ( Thank a vet ) Daugherty restored to his field rep position, certainly do not represent me, or most of the department. JM should be brought up on charges for his conduct at that same meeting.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I was at the FOP hall the other day and saw Shield's two Lincolns in the parking lot. There's a black, presidential Lincoln with an "S" license plate and a platinum edition with alabaster leather at his disposal.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
S = Saul not Shields
So I guess your not taking the next Dic's exam.
Anonymous said...
Also while everyone was watching Springfield Dougherty’s friends on the board of directors were try to sneak in a bill to continue to give Dougherty D5 pay for three more months.
You must be one of the few shields followers. I was at that board meeting and that request was made by Dean Angelo. Last I checked his dad was running against Dougherty. By the way 95% of the membership at the general meeting told Shields to put Dougherty back. President's don't fair to well if they don't follow their membership.
12/06/2013 07:52:00 AM
Dean Jr. and his father can both go screw themselves. Bill does not need the help of a medical roll abuser. From the FOP office to disability? Really Dean?
How about when we did an audit of the FOP credit cards we found out in that month after you lost the election until we took over that you took you family out on our credit card and had to pay back the lodge $1600.00 for dinner?
Did you ever try to come off of Disability Dean? Free medical and NO taxes? Right Dean?
By the way 95% of the membership at the general meeting told Shields to put Dougherty back. President's don't fair to well if they don't follow their membership.
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Flash mobs do not rule the lodge. Past presidents John Dineen and Bill Nolan both say Shields has the ability to remove a field rep just as every president has done including Donahue. Find out the REAL reason Capparelli was removed form the office. You will never vote for another city wide guy again.
Dineen is a past national president and also served later as the national grievance chairman. Billy is out and the board of directors have already elected his replacement.
Take a minute officer and look at the magnet mailed to us by the city wide team for the last election. NOW ASK YOURSELF WHY SIX GUYS WHO RAN WITH BELLA AND BILL ARE NOT RUNNING WITH HIM THIS TIME? There is a lot of dirt that you have no idea about. But you will.
Hey, Mayor Rahm: Call Mike Shields and Karen Lewis!
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.chicagoreader.com/Bleader/archives/2013/12/06/hey-mayor-rahm-call-mike-shields-and-karen-lewis&ct=ga&cd=NDg2NjM5NTA3NzU5NTY5MzI3Mg&cad=CAEYAA&usg=AFQjCNEwvEy-3cNv5OaszB8E5XFzCjRopw
Mike is the same guy who saved the city 10's of millions of dollars. Do not me naive
12/06/2013 02:01:00 AM
The city offered us 16% when the Olympic bid was coming up and Donahue Aguliar and Bella went into secret negotiations with the city in which the rest of the core group was not involved./ We only got 10% These assholes lost us 6% and that a lot more than 1.5% we would lose if there is no retro. Oct thru last month Aguliar, Dougherty, and DiMaria all told us after the meeting that we will get a retro but will have to jump thru hoops to get it. They say that because they know they fucked all of us trying to ensure the kid was a one term president. and these ass wipes have all ben up there for 12 years? Everyone of those dick wads has to go too!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nevertheless, not one of the monkeys will try to climb the stairway for the banana.
Why, you ask? Because in their minds...that is the way it has
always been!
This, my friends, is how U.S. Congress and the Illinois House and Senate operates... and this is why, from time to time...
ALL of the monkeys need to be REPLACED AT THE SAME TIME.
You're Welcome
12/05/2013 10:05:00 AM
You must have a lot of time on your hands....and where did you get the monkeys?
12/06/2013 09:26:00 AM
35th Street.
Detective, I hope you are wearing a vest when you arrive on my crime scene, because you will lose a days pay when I write your self righteous ass up. You worry about solving cases, eating lunch in 018, napping at home while on overtime, and fucking off all day. I'll worry about disciplining patrolmen(you).
Anonymous said...
Mike is the same guy who saved the city 10's of millions of dollars. Do not me naive
12/06/2013 02:01:00 AM
The city offered us 16% when the Olympic bid was coming up and Donahue Aguliar and Bella went into secret negotiations with the city in which the rest of the core group was not involved./ We only got 10% These assholes lost us 6% and that a lot more than 1.5% we would lose if there is no retro. Oct thru last month Aguliar, Dougherty, and DiMaria all told us after the meeting that we will get a retro but will have to jump thru hoops to get it. They say that because they know they fucked all of us trying to ensure the kid was a one term president. and these ass wipes have all ben up there for 12 years? Everyone of those dick wads has to go too!
12/06/2013 06:51:00 PM
You are full of shit. Daley pulled that offer early on in the financial meltdown. It was part of a total package that sucked, we had to accept all or none. We are much better off without that garbage package.
We got 10% from an arbitrator, Edward Benne, no negotiations.
Separately we got the current work schedule and 55 and out with health insurance.
Where do you get shit like the above crap? "Secret talks." Stop smoking that PCP laced weed.
Detective, I hope you are wearing a vest when you arrive on my crime scene, because you will lose a days pay when I write your self righteous ass up. You worry about solving cases, eating lunch in 018, napping at home while on overtime, and fucking off all day. I'll worry about disciplining patrolmen(you).
12/06/2013 09:53:00 PM
That's the best you can come up with SARGE??? You must have been the kid that was never allowed in the sand box.....
Separately WE got the current work schedule and 55 and out with health insurance.
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You did not get shit, they gave it to us because it saved them money. It was a shock to all of us. You lost everyone of us 6% by dicking around. Capparelli made his money on the side. How much did Fallon's family make too? Now go file another FOIA request. This kid is in the dark as to what YOU pos's did 6-12 years ago. Mark Greg and Rich if you want to go there then let's bring it on.
To the members if you have no idea what we are talking about you are lemmings.
Things and people are not what they seem in this election.
Anonymous said...
Separately WE got the current work schedule and 55 and out with health insurance.
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You did not get shit, they gave it to us because it saved them money. It was a shock to all of us. You lost everyone of us 6% by dicking around. Capparelli made his money on the side. How much did Fallon's family make too? Now go file another FOIA request. This kid is in the dark as to what YOU pos's did 6-12 years ago. Mark Greg and Rich if you want to go there then let's bring it on.
To the members if you have no idea what we are talking about you are lemmings.
Things and people are not what they seem in this election.
12/07/2013 10:34:00 AM
You are full of shit. The 16% only looks good in hindsight. At the time everyone was saying the city should shove it. And it was NOT a stand alone offer of 16%. It was part of a total package which no one wanted. Work rule changes etc.
Go to the arbitration award at
http://chicagofop.org/arbitration/2010/interest_arb_award_04162010.pdf
Read pages 54-59 (approx) and you will see what I mean. Overall we did better without that 16%. Of course more would have been better. But if we took that entire offer we would not have had the work schedule change (17 or 18 more RDO's a year, that is huge) and the 55 and out.
People seem to think that work schedule and 55 retirement was a gimme anyway. It was not. Tell me how the city saves money with us off another 17-18 days a year? I'd like to know that.
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