Vest Theft Rumor
We were hoping that this wasn't actually true:
- Anonymous said...
No mention about the dude posted up in district stations pretending to sell vest covers? Then stealing coppers vests!
1/26/2014 01:30:00 AM
You mean no mention of the convicted felon allowed to set up shop inside 3 stations (3,4, and 5) to rip off coppers. Then again I wouldn't buy from someone that didn't have a storefront or shit I could view online. Glad to see that station security is at it's best. The DSS of those districts should be sparred for inattention to duty. Especially 3 seeing they have a history of letting unauthorized persons into their station....at least this fool wasn't allowed to suit up and ride with some 003rd district dogass all night
Please tell us this isn't true. And if it is, we'd have to agree that everyone from the DSS upward needs to be suspended for a while.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
113 Comments:
Check the facsimile messages from yesterday or the day before, CPIC put out an info bulletin on this guy, photo and IR listed.
This is the kind if shut that happens when everybody is worried about being politically correct.
It's true all right. Criminals these days are just soooooo slick.
This is 100% true. Have wanted person named and on file along with a update in the msgs on clear. What a fucking disgrace.
Who gave up their vests and then went out and worked the streets?
It's true there's one of those AMFN message deals about it. Offender identified and investigative alert issued.
I work in 005 and its very true...sorry to say that we can be victims too..
It is true…there is an investigative alert # out for him. Heads will roll----except if you have a white shirt.
There was a message on the CLEAR homepage about this. Sounds pretty legit to me.
Really you are always preaching how the police never stick together and yet here you are referring to the whole 3rd District as dog ass. Yet you say don't write any tickets, don't write any contact cards and don't make any arrests. So what actually constitutes a dog ass district now. Just answering calls.
Anyone who willingly hands over their vest without checking the credentials of some mutt posing as a vendor deserves to get duped. And the (acting) DSS or whatever the fuck they're called this week should get dinged for this dude making his way into a "secure" facility and pulling this off.
Shit, I do a double take on every new janitor or shoeshine dude that I see floating the building.
District 003
blame the lazy desk workers, obtain a log number and recommend disciplinary action. put the desk workers back on the street so the station desk can be a safe place, again.
What's next? Con Men & Three Card Monte being played in District Station Lobby's?
(why not? "It's for the children." /s)
Unfortunately it is all too true. He was is 005 about two weeks ago. He approached me as I was leaving the station. He was well dressed and handed me a business card (which I promptly threw away, who knew). He asked where I had gotten my molle vest (not exactly an authorized version). I talked to him for a minute and then left not giving it a second thought. He had a table set up with examples and a small display board. Figured he knew someone in 005 because they always have some sort of vendor or other camped out in the foyer. Hell the shoe shine guy has the code to the damn back door. Gotta love station security. Oh, congrats to 001 on picking up Lt. MC from 005, you're gonna love this guy...sarcasm.
May be your lazy sergeants should actually inform you at roll calls.
I know they are overwhelmed with all those important thing they do.
Like pretending to read reports before approval or riding on jobs.
What could he have said to get coppers to give him money and/or their vest?
#1 I'll give it to you cheap...
#2 These are normally $100, but if you pay cash, only $50....
#3 This is the type of vest cover you'll need when you make tact....
#4 I'll throw in a free flashlight carrier....
Wow!!!! Some unidentified idiot strolled into several south side districts, set up a table and essentially scammed police officers into giving him their vests. Unfucking believable!!!! LOL!!!!!
The NYPD has new top leadership. A new broom is sweeping the department clean, and hand in hand with the new mayor will usher in a new era of enlightened and super effective police work. Will our brothers in NYC show us the way?
Whats next? Fake gun salesman gets Coppers sidearms ?
TRUE... IA out for guy
Was his last name Vanecko?
How many cops actually replace their vests on a regular basis? I've known some who are still wearing the same vest since the academy. Some with 15 to 20 years on.
What about Charles the shoeshine guy in 005? He regularly shine's the shoes of high level bosses and others. He is an intel gathering machine, well placed inside the security gates. He has commented on the car I drive and my furlough yet I never had a conversation with him. It's sad h e's given access to our station.
Dumb, dee dumb,dumb,dumb!
That's what you get for being dumb!
Also gotta deal on my duty belt and new bottle of hair gel! Not a bad guy, he even traded guns with me on the spot.
I believe he was arrested already
That is only a simple example of the problems you may have with wide open police stations. At least it wasn't an armed crazy like the shotgun wielding nut in Detroit. The stations need to be locked down, no questions asked.
Who are the morons that would hand over their vest to some individual without credentials of being a legit business. Every uniform store in Chicago makes an outline of our vest on paper and hands it right back to you.
Watch the guys who buy used vests at the uniform resale at FOP. I watched a guy buy about 10 vests. Probably going to sell them to a drug cartel south of the border.
Wonder if he can patrol like the 14 year old did? Who is the exempt that allowed this? They need to be terminated not suspended but no balls mcgoofus will do nothing as usual!
No such animal in 003
You should have your head examined if you gave this mope a penny. You should be fired if you gave him your vest. If you did you are too incompetent to handle some of the decisions on this job. Oh wait... this is the Chicago Police Department, congratulations you'll be promoted.
Here is the problem and it is the Command Staff not the DSS. The Commanders allow this, notices are put in the CO book that Costco, Sams Club and Insurance companies and others(maybe vest sellers) are coming to sell their goods on certain days with the approval of the commander. They set up booths in secured areas, come to roll call and hang out in the hall ways in attempt to sell their items. In 005 the shoe shine guy knows the code to the back door, 006 and 003 the guy delivering food to the lock up knows the code to back door and the lock up door. The cleaning crews leave doors propped open to get in and out easy in 008 so they don't have to get a key card. Then someday something will go wrong and there will be a disaster in a station then it will all stop and the command staff will place blame on everyone but themselves. We see it in Malls all the time now.
Question: How does this benefit the uniform companies?
Their stranglehold on prices will be even greater?
Looks like he lives in 022. I'll bet no one has even gone by his house, after all it is 022.
Who says this department isn't getting dumber every day?
I gave him my gun to clean. Damn it.
Lucky this guy didn't claim to be an armorer giving away free night sights!
Did a po fill out a contact card on this guy for "Da Boss?" Who referred this guy? Is this felon friends with a boss or police officer? Has anyone from the fop stepped up? Aside from the investigative alert was a cr # initiated on the dss?
I thought visitors had to be approved through Head Quarters or Area at least tht'a what my Commander says she wont let anyone come in to sell shit to us
It was always my understanding that no solicitors allowed into facilities unless cleared by department. Yes, someone should pay the price for this, but, clout afterall, might rule
Who allowed this shit? As usual no accountability another reason Cpd is being run into the ground!
Yes this is 100% true. He set up shop, got coppers to put a down payment or pay in full for a vest and custom made cover, then gave them the run-around. He never delivered the vest or cover. He has done this before in Illinois and Texas.
Never set up shop in 003. Try TRU or Msf. Probably promised those strokes some super cool tats as well.
Oh lighten up. The guy offered good deals and copper s got sucked in. You get what you pay for.
He looked like a straight thug from the penn or jail, plus he's company name was "Chicagos Finest" and "The Vest COmpany" give me a brake, if those weren't warning sings then you were trying to help a brother out.
Not surprised. There was a SWAT guy who had his M4 and vest stolen cause he was visiting his girlfriend. Commander dumps him from SWAT and he goes to the Mayor's Detail. Now he's making major overtime and D-3 pay as a reward for fucking up.
If true this is unreal and a disgrace!!!
By the way a contact card would of solved that problem.. not..
this never would have happened in the days of the Wheelgun Real Police. Skulls would be cracked over somet hin like this. maybe even worse.
It seems as though the 3rd distrct is always being fooled by the thug or a 12 year old police impersonator. The 3rd district officers are nothing but professional victims. Will they ever learn from their mistakes?
Anonymous said...
Who gave up their vests and then went out and worked the streets?
1/27/2014 01:57:00 AM
No one gave up their vest in 5. He was selling vest covers and vest. He took your measurements and supposedly made everything from that. I too was a victim but only gave him a deposit. I wanted to see the finished product before I paid in full.
Now he can sell then at discount to thugs for some defense as they pull their armed robberies.
..at least he didn't plant a bomb. Surely had enough time for some nefarious activity.
station security , station security
where is the big time captain
Sounds like the type of doofus who gets too near people at the top using his hands to talk sign gibberish. Seems I heard about something like that recently...
HA! HA! HA!
Hate to say it, but what the fuck were you chumps thinking?
Anonymous said...
It is true…there is an investigative alert # out for him. Heads will roll----except if you have a white shirt.
1/27/2014 03:05:00 AM
Heads will never roll. Nothing ever happens to the white shirts no matter the rank. The leadership could care less about the lowly P.O.'s. Yes I know they tell us they care, but they show us time and time again that they don't. Once you figure that out work becomes a lot better. Just tone them out and think about other stuff when they spew their BS.
Changes need to be made to station security in all districts and units but some boss will have to make that decision....not gonna happen. But if a gang banger gets the same bosses want answers.
Heads will roll? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!! yeah right. Hell, there's piss bums laying all over the lobby of any give station 24/7 and no one cares about that safety issue. Even after there has been several attempt murders of desk personel all over America and Chicago. Anyone remember the 001st district incident? Detroit shoot out? There are many more. In the burbs you can't get near anyone without getting buzzed in and then speaking through a bullet resistant glass speaker stating what you want. 35th street is a self interested building. Period!
In 005, he supposedly had the approval of the deputy's office and the front office to set up in the station.
I bought one from him so I would look like the real police.
- Garry
The troops going to Sochi and the Superbowl might be able to get some security tips for the department and thus solve the problem.
Facts: the guy did not take any officers vests. He promises to supply personalized vest covers and actual bullet proof vests. There are about 8 bonafide case reports submitted. He has done this before in Texas, Florida and Georgia. Somebody should have name checked him prior to giving him money with no actual storefront. Lastly....to the asshat that said nobody checked his apt. In 22....it was checked numerous times...he is in the wind....you must work in 007 tough guy!
Anonymous said...
It is true…there is an investigative alert # out for him. Heads will roll----except if you have a white shirt.
1/27/2014 03:05:00 AM
Really? If heads are to roll "except if you have a white shirt", then who? Patrolmen? Please stop being the victim, its really getting old and not very original.
" If you like your old vest cover, you can keep it."
Another democrat with his hand in your pocket.
The Commander should get dumped for this nonsense...too stupid to command or supervise.
Bet the victims were hair gel kids
I saw this trick in police academy 4.
Go to JG Uniform at Austin/Irving for vest covers and you won't have to worry about anything. It's worth the drive if you live south.
sunk.
Embarassing.
It was always my understanding that no solicitors allowed into facilities unless cleared by department. Yes, someone should pay the price for this, but, clout afterall, might rule
Who has clout in 3,4,or 5? suspend them, who will fill in. U
Unless you worked in 3,4, or 5 don't knock the coppers there. Now go get your free lunch at a hotel or grab a starbucks.
This is hilarious. Now I laugh because a lot of people saw this goof and no one did a damm thing about it. Especially after the goof was asking for your vest. But, yet some laugh at me when I call when I see miscellaneous people in the garage and going thru our trash by the squad cars. Everyone goes for the cheap prices and with it comes a price. This guy is laughing his behind off. Gotta love us! Better go to court to get your money's worth because the vest is probably NOT coming back or the money. Hilarious.
First of all, the one that lost his m4 and vest should not be guarding a damm thing. It wasn't just any weapon, an m4 that can penetrate our vest, that is no laughing matter at all and nor should be rewarded, except just sent back to patrol for stupid. You are responsible for your weapons at all time. I been trying to get trained on the m4 but, because I'm just patrol, I can't never get it. Yet, the desk person in my district got the training, go figure. Third year requesting the training and that swat guy just goes and looses his m4. Must be nice to be trained.
How about the shoeshine guy in 005? he walks around like he owns the place. he even has the combination to the doors.
No license. No peddlers license. Probably doesn't pay taxes. He watches everything but says little.
Maybe he's nice. Maybe not. Who vetted him? Does he give a kickback to the Commander? Or just give him free shoe shines?
It's okay, we can expect some calls of home invasions, robberies and shady traffic stops with some criminals wearing the vests they got from those cops. With logo and name tag. Might as well, give them the tahoes and call it a day. The Shield coming live from this. I bet the criminal got the idea from the new cop show, makes us look like The Shield.
No one will pay for a criminal roaming around free in a police station, even if the crminal would of come and shot anyone. In McCarthy's eyes, patrol beat officers are nothing to him and doesn't care. Bosses are always taken care of. Since when have we seen justice on how punishment for F-ups like this? never. This department is a joke. Can't keep secure a building that keeps no other, but officers that have to service communities, how pitiful.
A start would to not let the desk cops be bid for lifetime. It makes them cocky and rude. Open the bids every year for the desk. Desk officers start out being helpful and glad to be there, but after 5-6 years on the desk it's nothing but whining and rudeness to citizens and coppers. These "House Mouses" need a wake up call.
Does anyone know that Boston Police Patrolmen got a 25.4% raise over 6 years in their contract last month? A unanimous vote by their city council supported it after it went to arbitration. The city's original offer was 12%, but the Police landed up with double that. The Mayor said “But the police officers in this city work hard. . . . The City Council today by a vote of 12 to 0 approved the fact that they deserve the arbitration award.” I am sure Chicago will not be so lucky to get a golden deal like this, and have a Mayor make a statement like that. Now get back to work to make parking ticket revenue for Rahm and thank Shields losing your thousands of $ of Retro.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
It is true…there is an investigative alert # out for him. Heads will roll----except if you have a white shirt.
1/27/2014 03:05:00 AM
Really? If heads are to roll "except if you have a white shirt", then who? Patrolmen? Please stop being the victim, its really getting old and not very original.
1/27/2014 05:09:00 PM
Sorry Garry, he didn't mean it.
Hey, retired doe awhile and in my last 10 years found that I could sell the new police with less then 15 yoj the Hancock building.
We are in trouble when a con man gets the police. LOL.
Scamming the police never happened in the old days. Copper' where at their best at work and would never fall for any con. You young bucks got to get educated. Try interacting with the public more when you are not texting on your I Phone to your g/f working a different beat car! LOL
How many cops actually replace their vests on a regular basis? I've known some who are still wearing the same vest since the academy. Some with 15 to 20 years on.
--------------------------------------------
YUP!
Mine is about 20 years old.
I will keep it for another 6 1/2 years!
His business cards were made at vista print for the low 1st time offer of $9.99 U.S.C.... That was a tell sign right there. How could you not know..! Police are fundamentally ignorant. I feel so sorry 4 the future of this department... I hope we get better from here...
Why would Dougherty put a retired Sgt on his CityWide ticket? Why that one?
Anyone who bought a vest from this mutt should be embarrassed
Unless you worked in 3,4, or 5 don't knock the coppers there. Now go get your free lunch at a hotel or grab a starbucks.
Yes, I've worked in the 3rd district and witnessed first hand how rude and unprofessional these officers act. By the way I am drinking my Starbucks coffee while writting this post and believe me it's not the one on 71st and Stoney Island.
A start would to not let the desk cops be bid for lifetime. It makes them cocky and rude. Open the bids every year for the desk. Desk officers start out being helpful and glad to be there, but after 5-6 years on the desk it's nothing but whining and rudeness to citizens and coppers. These "House Mouses" need a wake up call. This Describes the 3rd Watch Desk crew in the New 019! Bitchie, arrogant and Unwilling to Help. Or they just don't speak as if they are better than PO's on the Watch! Hopefully the New Lt. that came in from 015 to 019 3rd watch will straighten them out! Acts like a Boss who has not forgot where he came from!
Damn...he told me he would knock ten per cent off for cash and then offered to gas up the car; he's not coming back?
If it was an exempts cash they would have put the homicide dicks on the caper!
Oh well Great job DSS.
one day you will leads us as an exempt.
WTF, he sold Deputy Walsh a vest.
Her office allowed him to set up shop.
I bet these coppers have only 5yrs on the Job WTF.
I have a chicken that lays golden eggs anybody wants
To buy them ! Today's deal buy one get one free!
I work at HQ.
Wow!
Are you people all stupid.
I don't trust any of these f -ers that come in to any of our buildings and try to sell shit.
I never trusted that guy that sold the Aflac type ins.
I never trusted any of the cell phone sales people. (they always sent the hot chicks too)
I never trusted any of those shoe shine people.
Come on. When have any of these people been background checked by anyone in this dept.
And how many of them have been thrown out of any of our facilities?
Once they get comfortable, they start roaming around, snooping in places they should not be.
good thing he didn't offer a discount rate on a good fully disassembled cleaning of your weapon... guys will pay for that, too.
Anonymous said...
HA! HA! HA!
Hate to say it, but what the fuck were you chumps thinking?
1/27/2014 03:27:00
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I agree, HA! HA! HA!
They were thinking they would get something for nothing so now they blame to bosses for their own stupidity. WTF
We need the old "bunco" squad back fuck SWAT and maybe the old "Scotland Yard Detail"
Anonymous said...
WTF, he sold Deputy Walsh a vest.
Her office allowed him to set up shop.
1/28/2014 01:34:00 AM
And why does that surprise you?
Hey, retired doe awhile and in my last 10 years found that I could sell the new police with less then 15 yoj the Hancock building.
We are in trouble when a con man gets the police. LOL.
Scamming the police never happened in the old days. Copper' where at their best at work and would never fall for any con. You young bucks got to get educated. Try interacting with the public more when you are not texting on your I Phone to your g/f working a different beat car! LOL
Easy to get conned when you think you are smarter than everyone.
TRUE!
Arbitrator rules for 25.4% raise over 6 years for Boston Police patrolmen
http://www.necn.com/09/27/13/Arbitrator-rules-for-254-raise-over-6-ye/landing_politics.html?blockID=853747
If he used a Chicago Police Department facility to defraud you, then the City of Chicago is liable for negligence.
All of the victims can file claims in small claims court individually or can pool their claims and seek damages in the Law Division.
Discovery will allow a deposition of all persons in charge of those districts to determine who knew this person or who let him operate.
Remember, just filing the suit would be a victory.
He ws giviging free hair gell with a vest
The DSS should be demoted and sent back to work a beat.
It wasn't just Shields who got us to miss that retro check deadline, it was the entire FOP. Any one of them could of sent the letter, but no one did. So, please stop blaming only one person, it gets old.
"By the way I am drinking my Starbucks coffee while writting this post and believe me it's not the one on 71st and Stoney Island."
Clearly, you don't even know how to spell Stony Island.
I saw him deliver some of the ordered vests but unfortunately mine wasn't one of them.
How about no one loitering in station lobby???? the piss bums who sleep in 011 nightly have got to go? Oh wait! No white shirt has the balls to say no bums allowed.
As for the person bashing 022! We have made numerous trips to where his LKA is! Yes there are dogs here but there are also cops that want to protect the homeland. So don't bash them so fast
I went on Cityofboston.gov and some of the Police Officers made $150,000 last year before the 25% percent raise.
Anonymous said...
Hey, retired doe awhile and in my last 10 years found that I could sell the new police with less then 15 yoj the Hancock building.
We are in trouble when a con man gets the police. LOL.
Scamming the police never happened in the old days. Copper' where at their best at work and would never fall for any con. You young bucks got to get educated. Try interacting with the public more when you are not texting on your I Phone to your g/f working a different beat car! LOL
Easy to get conned when you think you are smarter than everyone.
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I am sure that no "experienced" police officer has every been duped when buying a car or a house. That is why no "wise" police officer has every experienced a foreclosure or a bankruptcy. And no police officer has bought a condo that is worth $70,000 for $230,000. Yea the police officers from the old days are extremely sophisticated, refined, cultured, and highly educated. (For the old timers, the last sentence was sarcasm. Yes, you are that retarded.)
Our "station security" is the gopher for the desk, food and coffee runs, than 2-3 hour nap in the car and a movie. Than goes down on lunch. Best spot in the city.
003 doesn't have anyone doing station security.
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