Speed Camera Fail?
Rahm's budget people predicted (there's that word again) that speed cameras would bring in $70 million for all sorts of "children's programs." Guess how much they've brought in so far?
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel is counting on speed cameras installed around Chicago schools and parks to bankroll $70 million worth of children’s programs this year.
But he’ll have a tough time getting there, thanks to motorists hitting the brakes, winter driving conditions that forced them to slow down or a combination of the two.
The 92 speed cameras installed near 43 schools and parks have generated just $3.7 million in fines, and only $1.5 million of that has been collected. That’s after churning out 758,176 warning notices and 42,568 tickets since the first camera was installed at Gompers Park in August.
So that's like 2% of projected revenue? And even that is only 40% of what the cameras have captured - fully 60% of the supposed revenue has gone uncollected. The article doesn't say if that's because people aren't paying or plate data isn't available. And of course, the money is already spent, leaving a hole in the budget:
- One the one hand, [Rahm] budgeted for a $70 million windfall that, aldermen feared, was a low-ball figure. On the other hand, the mayor has insisted his plan to put cameras in up to 300 locations is about saving lives, not raising sorely needed revenue.
Unless there’s a dramatic turnaround, Emanuel’s words are likely to prevail.
That would blow a hole in the city’s 2014 budget at a time when cash-strapped Chicago can least afford it. City Hall has already plowed through a $20.5 million snow removal budget that was supposed to cover this winter and the start of next.
Amazing - Rahm tries to grab a boat load of money, spends the money before he has it, Chicagoans wise up to the scam and slow down to such an extent that Rahm is going to have a massive shortfall, and now he falls back on the throwaway line that this "was always about safety" that he was lying about to get the aldercreatures to vote in the camera law in the first place.
If it was about safety, why spend what had to be non-existent money in the first place? But he'll claim victory anyway.
If it was about safety, why spend what had to be non-existent money in the first place? But he'll claim victory anyway.
Labels: city politics
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
106 Comments:
Can't drive more than 20 mph thru the pothole maze
Why is the City responsible for children's programs. Let the parent(s) that had the crumb crunchers and rug rats pay for their own kids programs. How did the human race even survive prior to cities shelling out millions on children programs? Use the money for pensions instead.
And the Great Oz slithers back behind the curtain.
No wonder Rahm is pissed and desperately flogging every city department to "generate revenue or else."
He's doubly pissed because he realizes he can't have it both ways in that he destroyed CPD manpower and yet ha wants CPD to be his revenue collecting gestapo.
Mr. "Dead Weight" (aka Rahm shit-starter from city hall)from a recent past thread is welcome to "weigh in" on the fiendish plans for CPD now running through that feverish peanut Rahm calls a brain.
Love it when these self proclaimed smartest m/fers in the room outsmart themselves right into a trap of their own making.
"You guys aren't generating enough ACTIVITY."
How can you try and starve a Police Department to death then whine that they're bringing nothing to a table they aren't allowed to sit at?
These political fence sitters ought to be good and sore by now.
O/T: Kudos to the CPS kids taking the skin off Rahm's wretched ass during their Poetry Slam.
Rahm says "It's for the children."
The kids say "The Emperor has no clothes!"
Tell the truth and shame a shitty-assed North Shore Devil!
Asshole politician.
I thought children's safety through speed enforcement in "school zones" was the primary objective of these cameras not the collection of fines. Maybe some of the non-paying vehicle owners are off the radar. I have often wondered how someone without a valid driver’s license can be issued license plates and allowed to register a vehicle. When running license plates via the Secretary of State database, I am just amazed neither a driver’s license nor a date of birth appears for the registered owners of a great percentage of the vehicles operated on the road. A name check also reveals no valid D/L. How are collection agencies suppose to threaten these registered owners into paying those fines under threat of a negative report to the credit bureaus without personally identifiable information? How is the Secretary of State supposed to use the threat of a suspension of one’s driver’s license for unpaid tickets if they didn’t have a driver’s license in the first place? I guess these legally permissible types of threats only apply to responsible licensed people who are compelled to pay fines fearing negative consequences. On the same token, how can insurance companies provide insurance coverage to non-licensed drivers operating motor vehicles in direct violation of the vehicle code which requires driver to possess a valid D/L to operate a motor vehicle? I’m glad to see this revenue generation scam fail, but unfortunately the children and their promised programs will suffer the most.
Weather has nothing to do with behavior. Oh wait, that's the supts line.
When will the Citywide team stop slamming Angelo and tell us why we should vote for Dougherty. You guys cant be this arrogant.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/localgovernment/tensions-high-between-black-and-white-officers-in-st-petersburg-police/2169873
Here is another BIG fail.
LAPD is now field testing body cameras on their officers. This job is getting shittier by the day.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/15/officers-body-cameras-raise-privacy-concerns/
3.7 million....about 20% of that is most likely spent on maintenance and paying people to send out and collect the fines. HaHaHaHa
The best Speed Cameras out there are motivated,respected and plentiful P.O. 's. Now is the time to say enough is enough and stop all revenue and V.R.I.
I don't have a problem with body cameras as long as they use cute bodies.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
"LAPD is now field testing body cameras on their officers..."
3/16/2014 04;35:00 AM
Chicago will NEVER spring for body cameras for each officer.
Loevy, Bowman, Schiller et al. will fucking starve to death as Coppers get true religion and become holy like a m/fer.
City Hall can't have that... The campaign money kick-back stream from these fucking shysters has cut a channel in Chicago's political landscape not unlike the Grand-Fucking-Canyon...
It's THERE, but nobody DARES to speak of it. Especially the media.
Pity a poor slob who falls in through no fault of his own... Especially if that poor slob is wearing a CPD blue shirt.
Can you imagine all the beefs and law suits dying upon review of officers body cam?
As we said earlier... Ain't happening in Chicago. Too disruptive to the lawyer money stream.
Also too disruptive to these bad, fucked-up supervisors mistreating, threatening and disrespecting P.O's.
A paper trail is bad enough but they DREAD having their antics captured for posterity.
What is the collection rate on red light tickets? If they anticipated a higher rate on speed tickets then Rahm was up to smoke and mirrors again, no surprise there.
As for the incidence rate I'm thinking weather and its related issues. Nobody's driving fast anywhere these days, relatively speaking.
Guess there's going to be a property tax hit. Perhaps an increase in the water bill too.
Wait.
I thought it was revenue from cannabis ordinance violations was going to pay for all children's projects.
Rahm said, On one hand there is 5, on the other hand is 4.5
We NEED to negotiate from a possession of strength. 0 Revenue from the Patrol Division is our strength. Could people please think about our long term instead of their selfish,shortsighted need for V.R.I. dollars to buy Jet Skies or Motorcycles. We need to unite, it's obvious the F.O.P. isn't going to lead. Rahm is vulnerable.
Speedcams and red lightcams are a money-grab.
But what happens when the driver's don't pay? Nothing. They keep speeding and driving through the red lights.
Eventually, they rack up enough fines and tickets to get suspended.
What happens when driver's get suspended? Nothing. They keep driving. Sure, the next time might be a felony, but who's counting? We can't lock driver's up, so give 'em supe. Just like nothing happened.
So you see, we've lost the War on Traffic Crime. We should repeal all vehicle codes immediately and stop wasting taxpayer dollars trying to oppress the public with unenforceable traffic laws. Speeding and running red lights are a matter of personal choice.
Signed --
the National Organization for the Reform of Vehicle Codes
"It's for the Children" Bullshit!!! FUCK YOU Rahm!!!!
The real reason he hasn't seen is because Chicagoans are better drivers than he ever could have predicted, but sine he's not truly a Chicagoan, he wouldn't know that. Ha-ha!
Download "Trapster" onto your smart phones!
It works and lets drivers know where all the Cities thieving machines are located!
Also, let the parents pay for their kids programs as I have done! The city didn't give me a penny when I was raising my child!
The city should be funding the Pensions! It's first obligation!
Da Pelon
When you are chauffeured around you have no clue about adapting your driving to the environment.
OT: The city is trying to screw the citizens, I've seen multiple locations where the warning sign is around the corner from the camera with an arrow pointing to the location. BS.
Congrats to the 12,000 plus who passed CPD's latest exam and now are on the road to being Chicago's Finest!😎
I'm sure someone posted the cost of these bullshit cameras, but I am too lazy to go look.
It's too bad the newspapers and the BGA are too busy sniffing around coppers personnel files to find real dirt. Then again, the Evil Leprechaun trained the media well.
Oh, but tiny dancer said that the goal was that speed cameras caused drivers to no longer speed and ticket revenue was not important.
My bullshit meter exploded after Rahm's statement to the media.
Wait for a lot more cameras to be installed before you know it. Red Light cameras, speed cameras all part of Rahm fleecing everyone for every penny. Meanwhile he gives the city away for pennies to his money men and they take all the profit and return the favor with donations to Rahms campaign. giving away that TIF money for donations is not a violation. BUt there is no money for pensions.
What? No Revenue, Doh!! How can that be, it was a 'government projection'. Those are our 'best and brightest' people, and folk ;-). Aren't they?
Okay... get off the floor and stop laughing. Everyone knows they're morons with an IQ of a stick and that the only reason they work for the Gubmint to start with is they're too fuckin' stoo-pid to hold onto a job (or even get hired) in the private sector where they can be fired for goddamn incompetence.
As such there are two main givens -- not to be confused with Raylan :-) -- that has applied to 'The G' since Pharaoh built the Pyramids:
-- 1) With any tax, fee, or other 'revenue generator' (aka: speed light cameras), the amount actually received will never be anywhere close to what was "projected" and huge losses will result.
-- 2) With any new gubmint 'project' or "investment" (aka spending), the actual Cost to 'The G' (aka: Taxpayers) will never be anywhere close to was what "estimated" and huge losses will result.
Ergo, I'll give 'them' a friendly tip on how to put an end that perpetual circle-jerk. No I'm not nice, I'm just tired of my taxes going up, up, up and up, and a gubmint fee on every fucking thing. So here goes:
-- a) When, or 'if', new or more revenue is needed, just pretend its actually a new Gubmint Project, or "Investment", and not a Tax and/or Fee. That way the 'gubmint estimate' will be really LOW, and will match the actual revenue received.
-- b) When a new Project or "Investment" (aka: Spending Program) is needed, just pretend its really a new Tax or Fee and NOT a Bid Estimate. That way the 'gubmint projection' will be HIGHER and will match the amounts of real-life Bids from Contractors.
It'll work out perfectly. It's just a little reverse psychology. There's no fighting over costs, contractors won't have to live on fucking gruel while 'it' goes through the courts, and pols, oops, 'Gubmint Workers' won't have to hide from and/or dodge citizens who have the rope & pitchforks out!!
But who am I kidding. The voters are even 'Stoo-pider'(tm) than the fucking politicians. We're doomed.
On the bright side, no children have been struck by cars in school safety speed zones.
In the 50's children's programs was "go outside, stay out of trouble and be home when the street lights go on" it worked very well because of kids having a moral compass that said "go outside, stay out of trouble and come home when the street lights come on."
And don't forget the budget hole because of the lack of marijuana ANOVs. Fuck Rahm.
SCC........Don't you know that all liberals are born without a math gene?
The 9 Digit Midget takes his cue from the Klown from Kenya.
Accountability? Responsibility? None of that matters. The only thing that matters is that your heart is in the right place. The Liar-In-Chief has said that it is so!
FYI if IAD wants my ISP they can GFO because I'm NAC.
LAPD is now field testing body cameras on their officers. This job is getting shittier by the day.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/15/officers-body-cameras-raise-privacy-concerns/
3/16/2014 04:35:00 AM
Anything LAPD does translates to CPD adopting that same technology 10-15 years down the road. I'll be long gone before that happens here. Don't hold your breath waiting.
Those cameras often cost the host city $1500-2000 each a month in maintenance fees.Once the cameras actually reduce speeding or stop light violations to the point they are not profitable,they are deactivated.
Its all about money and not public safety.
But its for the children. It was never for the money. Saving their lives not paying for the programs.
They just figured out half the drivers come back no record on file
$5 from every mover or anov should go to pension.
The Red Light Speed Camera investors made a boatload. So did Rahms campaign fund.
Only an Alderman can complain that Speed Cams are bad when she got too many tickets (were those paid yet?).
Rahm told us so, "it saved children", that's why people are slowing down, not that it's about the coin.
Now he has no way to generate revenue other than raise property taxes.
Win-win in Rahms spendthrift administration.
Potholes will do wonders for slowing down and outsmarting speed cameras.
Now if everyone would just quit smoking, we'd REALLY stick it to 'em.
He'll recover some from whomever got the installation contract(s)
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can't drive more than 20 mph thru the pothole maze
3/16/2014 12:10:00 AM
Exactly, roads are crumbling everywhere.
They'll raise the $35 fine to 50, at least. Always figured that was just the wedge in the door.
Wonder how much this camera contract is costing?
OT:
Packers sign Julius Peppers! Eat it Bears! Welcome to Titletown Peppers, you're only true shot a winning the Super Bowl!.
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Julius-Peppers-joins-Packers-predicts-something-different/dc33fe44-95eb-4cc3-af0b-246322f9bc33
Well what did they expect with those outrageous fines? $100 for going 36-40mph past a school or park- that's outrageous. 9 digit midget must think that everyone that lives here makes 100K+/yr to casually shell out a c-note for every speed cam ticket they pass on their way to work/home. Sorry, but we are all not millionaires like mayor twinkle toes, so yes, everyone is slowing down, which is not hard considering the traffic in this town is becoming more congested with each passing year. That, plus the thousands of traffic control lights that are out of sync you can't drive more than one block before you come to a red light just after getting the green; western ave looks like a string of christmas lights at night. If they made the fines more reasonable, say 20-30 bucks for speeding, more people could afford that and would just eat the ticket.
What did they just figure since they were stupid enough to elect him as mayor that they would be to stupid to figure out where the red light cameras were.
The brain trust who figured this out based projections on initial violations, not thinking people commonly drive the same routes, and after receiving a notice they honestly thought people were going to keep doing it. IDIOTS!!!
More political crap shoveling.
I have paid by boat load of speed camera fines. taking a wallet-hit has taught me to slow down.
OT--
Ah ha. Here's "the rest of the story" on the chase out of Calumet Park --
"Solomon Wyatt, 33, of the 12300 block of South Throop Street in Calumet Park, was in the passenger seat of Terrell's van, according to Cook County Assistant State's Atty. Patrick McGuire. He faces charges of unlawful possession of cannabis and the manufacturing and delivery of cannabis, with his bond set at $50 thousand.
"Police saw him throw three vacuum-sealed bags containing 4 pounds and 9 ounces of what police suspect is cannabis from the van after the fatal crash, McGuire said. Police found an additional 4 pounds in the van, he said."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-authorities-murder-charges-approved-for-driver-in-crash-that-killed-offduty-officer-20140315,0,6456636.story
* LUNAR ALERT * LUNAR ALERT *
It is "coming out of the woodwork" time. FULL MOON TONIGHT -- for all the St. Paddy's day boozin.
Be extra careful.
Sure, and sometimes I fear 'tis the Divil himself running things...
Anonymous said...
LAPD is now field testing body cameras on their officers. This job is getting shittier by the day.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/15/officers-body-cameras-raise-privacy-concerns/
3/16/2014 04:35:00 AM
Remember the Sheriff's Sgt who aerated the mugger at the S side gas station a few weeks back? Remember the video from the "encounter"?
Cameras whether on a uniform, in a car etc can prove very helpful. The future is here. Get used to it. Generally most PD's experience with cameras has been positive. Amazingly lawsuits against cops and departments have decreased with the use of cameras. Hard to allege abuse or a wrongful shooting when the video shows something else entirely.
Live Long and Video!
Rahm is an egotistical asshole.
Who loses in this? We do.
He'll find another way to fleece the middle class and make up the difference.
I agree with the earlier post. Potholes are the worst they've ever been so you can't speed down most roads without putting your car and your life at risk.
Police chase in Lincoln Park may have hurt officer
Updated at 01:35 PM today
Sun Times Media Wire
March 16, 2014 (CHICAGO) -- A police chase to possibly pursue a homicide suspect may have injured a police officer Sunday afternoon in Lincoln Park.
The chase started about 12:45 p.m. near 63rd and the Dan Ryan Expressway as police pursued a person wanted for homicide, according to unconfirmed dispatch reports. The chase ended minutes later near Fullerton and Lake Shore Drive in a crash, which have may have hurt a police officer, according to unconfirmed dispatch reports.
Shots were fired at the scene, the unconfirmed disptach reports said. The person police were chasing is still in their car and could be heavily armed, according to the unconfirmed dispatch reports.
Illinois State Police, who was assisiting, confirmed the pursuit and said that Lake Shore Drive by Fulerton was shut down but could not give more details.
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local/chicago_news&id=9468285
Lincoln Park Zoo on Lockdown - UPDATED 2X
Illinois State Police are chasing a homicide suspect from Harvey in the northbound lanes of Lake Shore Drive. Suspect has crashed car near Belmont exit. Lincoln Park Zoo being cleared.
Posted by Lorraine Swanson (Editor) , March 16, 2014 at 01:56 PM
Updated Sunday, 1:52 p.m. -- Chicago Breaking News is reporting that the suspect is from Georgia, who is wanted in connection to a murder in Henry County, GA. The chase resulted from an investigation between Harvey and Georgia police. At least 40 emergency vehicles are said to be on the scene.
Updated Sunday, 1:37 p.m. -- Unconfirmed reports are that the suspect is still "active" but holed up in his vehicle. Lake Shore Drive and Fullerton are shut down in all directions.
Original story Sunday, 1:20 p.m. -- A high speed chase northbound on Lake Shore Drive between Illinois State Police and a homicide suspect from Harvey has placed the Lincoln Park Zoo on lockdown as of 1:12 p.m. Sunday.
Civilians and officers are being cleared from the zoo for SWAT teams.
The chase began around 12:45 p.m. The suspect is said to have crashed his car in the northbound lanes south of Belmont and Fullerton exits on Lake Shore Drive.
The suspect is said to be heavily armed.
Chicago Breaking News is reporting that police are chasing a dark colored vehicle.
Avoid the area of Lake Shore Drive and the Lincoln Park Zoo.
http://lakeview.patch.com/groups/police-and-fire/p/lincoln-park-zoo-on-lockdown
(OT) just a thank you to the Burr Ridge copper that stopped my wife yesterday for the license plate issue as usual the turn blue line thanks again Chicago P.D.
Off topic. This is regarding the FOP election. I heard if Dougherty wins, he's planning to kick out all the candidates that won their respective positions and replace them in the office with his people that lost their elections. They say that Kevin Graham, Jim Bailey, Sid Davis, Rich Aguilar, Sual Del Rivero will all be made Field Reps and work in the FOP office while the guys that actually won those elections will be out on the streets doing their regular CPD assignments. CAN HE DO THIS???? If the members elected these guys, how can this guy kick them out???
Yeah, it has been interesting. I am a real speed cam hater, and when these came, I worried about them. But we have not a single ticket. All the drivers in the household know exactly where the cameras are along our routes. We hit the brakes -- when we pass the cameras. The rest of the time we drive as we always do. Mostly we don't violate, sometimes we probably do. Catch us if you can, the way it should be. We operate safely.
The cameras are designed not to promote safety, but to generate tickets. Take Ashland and Montana, for example. Those cameras are supposed to protect users of Wrightwood Park a block and a half to the north. But the southbound camera catches speeders well south of the park at an area not likely to attract park users, but likely to catch speeders trying to make the southbound green at Fullerton. The northbound camera arguably slows traffic headed for the park, but many drivers speed up after they're past the camera and try make the green at Wrightwood; the camera really is meant to catch people who hit the gas after their northbound light turns green at Fullerton. The safety thing is BS.
Or how about the one on Irving by the cemetery? No school, no park. A cemetery. That's there because people tend to go fast there.
Or how about the one on Ashland by Union Park? Nobody uses Union Park. Or hardly anybody. That camera at Ashland and Lake is just intended as a cash register.
No matter. We aren't paying your stinking tickets because we aren't getting them. We know where your stupid cameras are.
This once great city has become nothing but one big speed trap.
Living near the expressway, I use it to drive to nearby Indiana or Wisconsin and do 99.9% of my shopping. Same big box stores, big ass malls with FREE parking and smaller taxes.
No revenue goons out to fleece the public.
Once the city stops building memorial parks, basketball stadium's, presidential libraries and other assorted fuckery and begins to pay their obligation to the Police pension I might come back. But we know that will NEVER happen! So AMF at city hall.
Does this mean Rahm and Daley will have to return the bribes they got from the camera company?
OT- just curious, was big Garry at the scene on LSD, or did he find it more important to get his drink on for st pats day?? Heard big Leo all over the radio... But someone seemed MIA. And I sure hope this pos got an anov, since that's what's important to this police dept.
Please----safety had nothing to do with the cameras. It was about giving someone with a connections a nice fat contract for their company. Isn't it obvious?
when will the liberal Democrats go away?.....ever?
O/T
Gotta love the old Crown Vic squad in the lakeshore drive standoff. Great look with about 50 percent of the paint peeled off the hood and top. What junk CPD rolls for its officers.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
On the bright side, no children have been struck by cars in school safety speed zones.
3/16/2014 09:14:00 AM
On the other hand, none were hit by cars in those zones BEFORE the expensive, unnecessary cameras went in, either.
Anonymous Captain Kirk Digs Green Chicks said...
Anonymous said...
LAPD is now field testing body cameras on their officers. This job is getting shittier by the day.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/15/officers-body-cameras-raise-privacy-concerns/
3/16/2014 04:35:00 AM
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My kid goes to Univ of iowa, and the Iowa City police there all have shoulder mounted cameras. They win 95% of all their cases in court, and rarely have complaints, never mind sustained complaints.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic. This is regarding the FOP election. I heard if Dougherty wins, he's planning to kick out all the candidates that won their respective positions and replace them in the office with his people that lost their elections. They say that Kevin Graham, Jim Bailey, Sid Davis, Rich Aguilar, Sual Del Rivero will all be made Field Reps and work in the FOP office while the guys that actually won those elections will be out on the streets doing their regular CPD assignments. CAN HE DO THIS???? If the members elected these guys, how can this guy kick them out???
3/16/2014 02:26:00 PM
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From Dougherty's lips to my ears at 11th District VRI Bill said it did not make a difference if Aguliar lost he was bring keeping him upstairs.
The first reason Tom McDonagh is backing Angelo, McDonagh and Bella are doing rolls with Angelo, is Dougherty would not commit to bring up any of the officers that were elected by the membership. Tom McDonagh says the Dougherty now has a fourth revision of why he did not sign the letter - That Aguliar and Donahue never told him that the "Letter" was due. I guess we can give Dougherty **** Pinocchio's for that!
Anonymous said...
Or how about the one on Irving by the cemetery? No school, no park. A cemetery. That's there because people tend to go fast there.
3/16/2014 02:31:00 PM
The City lists Challenger Playlot Park there.
Challenger Playlot Park
Actually, the playlot, with a dog friendly area, is under the El tracks, between the El and the cemetery. How convenient to find speeders nearby. It's for the kids.
That idiot from the Calumet Park chase that killed the poor copper - how many vehicle/non-license violations did she have - and kept on driving! Swan Lake actually thinks he will make $ from speed cameras? Fuck him. And I hope that bitch never sees the inside of a vehicle again.
--No Cop Here
What happened to the story I sent you on the 14th?
It was properly quoted from Police Magazine On-Line on how Pittsburgh FOP Lodge #1 won a union arbitration that would allow its police officers to reside outside the city by "25 air miles"?
The mayor said he fight this.
Even if you did use what I gave you that was an important story.
Truth be told,he is just a man trying to prove he can do a job,he can't predict the future or work miracles,he deceives and is a politician,no where near close to being JESUS,let's just slap him down a few hundred notches,and he is just another guy trying to keep a job,but certainly can't if voted out!
LAPD is now field testing body cameras on their officers. This job is getting shittier by the day.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/03/15/officers-body-cameras-raise-privacy-concerns/
3/16/2014 04:35:00 AM
Live life on this job like there is a camera on you every second because there is. Having it on your shoulder will work as a constant reminder of that and keep you out of civil court.
That being said, if FOP can stop their infighting, let's get them on this very thing. If I get hit, spit on or pushed, the laws in the book say it's a felony. With video it's a slam dunk. So why does out States Attorney ignore the law and charge a misdemeanor?
Next copper that gets it on tape, push hard for the felony charges. If you are ignored, call the Union. Sue. Get a lawyer. Some of these offenders actually have assets, but the city of Chicago does. If they ignore their responsibility to keep you safe by incarcerating bad people, get that lawyer. Let's go FOP.
O/T
Thank you to Tinley Park P.d. who helped out an elderly friend's caregiver who locked her
keys in her car.
Off topic. This is regarding the FOP election. I heard if Dougherty wins, he's planning to kick out all the candidates that won their respective positions and replace them in the office with his people that lost their elections. They say that Kevin Graham, Jim Bailey, Sid Davis, Rich Aguilar, Sual Del Rivero will all be made Field Reps and work in the FOP office while the guys that actually won those elections will be out on the streets doing their regular CPD assignments. CAN HE DO THIS???? If the members elected these guys, how can this guy kick them out???
Yes he can. Appears you don't understand the election. None of these guys won the the election for field rep because there was no election for the inside FOP office spots. They won the election for 1st VP,3VP,etc not field rep. Why is that so hard to understand? The president has the power to appoint po's to those spots. Has been that way since the FOP started. This is nothing new.
Not agreeing with the situation, but read the FOP by laws.
What is the story behind all the yellow Temporary tags that I see on the west-side? Washington Blvd has half-dozen Temp tags per block. It must be hard to collect the camera-tickets from these cars. (not a cop)
"We're runnin outa gas."
"How long our radio batteries gonna last out here?"
"Anyone got any sandwiches?"
The Great Standoff continues -- the suspect veh. pinned literally bumper-to-bumper between two police tanks, with a Tahoe blocking him to the east...
Waiting for ol boy to bleed out or what?
These cameas did not fail. They did what they were designed to do. Keep the kids safe and slow people down.
Nothing more then a big sucess story. Let us all celebrate...
Off topic. This is regarding the FOP election. I heard if Dougherty wins, he's planning to kick out all the candidates that won their respective positions and replace them in the office with his people that lost their elections. They say that Kevin Graham, Jim Bailey, Sid Davis, Rich Aguilar, Sual Del Rivero will all be made Field Reps and work in the FOP office while the guys that actually won those elections will be out on the streets doing
...and I heard that Angelo is bringing up his son, Dean Jr, His brother in law, Ralph and Garrido's sister SS oh, and Tommy Mc... and the icing on the cake, to fill the vacated trustee spot by MD....Dan S...for repayment. CAN HE DO THIS.... OH YES HE CAN.
It is all BS... neither Bill or Dean is that shallow.
Off Topic...
I want to take a second to say thanks to all of the Police Officers, Traffic Aides, Paramedics and all of the volunteers who worked today to make the SSI Parade a SAFE success. I've been there and it's not easy to stand out in the cold for hours on end. Please know that your efforts are appreciated not only today, but every day.
God Bless you all!
OT:
Packers sign Julius Peppers! Eat it Bears! Welcome to Titletown Peppers, you're only true shot a winning the Super Bowl!.
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Julius-Peppers-joins-Packers-predicts-something-different/dc33fe44-95eb-4cc3-af0b-246322f9bc33
You're a day late nerd. You think such a big Packers fn like yourself would have known yesterday?
LSD prisoner at Northwestern ER, place is crawling. That is it. Gotta say "well played hand" by all. Thanks. God bless all & prayers for those injured.
Waited til dark, flashbanged the a__hole, dragged him out, cuffed, on stretcher, see ya. He southbound.
Yay!
Now that is SERVICE. GA sheriff just called Harvey PD for help on this guy yesterday after wife was killed, gave GPS location info, probably on cell all the way up here, what I done, what I done.
Tonight CPD say "here yo mess."
Good deal.
What is the story behind all the yellow Temporary tags that I see on the west-side? Washington Blvd has half-dozen Temp tags per block. It must be hard to collect the camera-tickets from these cars. (not a cop)
3/16/2014 08:00:00 PM
Happens this time of year in certain neighborhoods. Everyone got their (un) EIC refund from their tax return and bought a new hooptie. And believe it or not, if the temp tag is legit (ha ha) they can be run just like regular plates.
The Great Lake Shore Drive Stand off continues. The guy is wanted for the murder of his wife. Maybe their just waiting for him to fall asleep or freeze to death. Concerned Citizen
from Lincoln Park resident nearby the standoff which has ended:
For the CPD Officer who was injured, I pray for a quick recovery for you. God Bless you, and thank you for your service!
I just heard suspect is in custody. I am relieved for all remaining Officers involved in this operation, that no additional Officers were hurt. I don't care how long it took. I believe that those residents affected are as grateful and caring for your teamwork and hard work and success in the bitter cold today and tonight. You all deserve thanks from us in Lincoln Park for how well you contained the situation. Having news choppers overhead all day was eerie because I feared for every Officers' safety out there. Still, as I post, at 10:40pm, the walls of my place are rumbling as choppers continue to hover directly overhead on and off. But that doesn't matter. What matters is you all get to go home to your loved ones, safe and sound. God Bless the CPD and the additional responders involved. You all are awesome!
Will Leo be putting himself in for another award ?
Why was he there anyway?
What are the odds of winning an appeal on a "red light camera?" I heard only about 10%. I caught a ticket but the first frame shows me trying to brake (brake lights on) & then sliding through. Ice and snow were evident.
Unless the wearer is an idiot, thosebody worn cameras will keep you out of more trouble than they will ever get you in. Someone takes a swing at you, attacks you, puts hands on? You are within your rights to use like force. Then the tape shows it. Why do you think narcotics UC's use cameras and mikes? Or UC cars get wired up to record murder for hire, public corruption and other crimes. The offenders plead out. The results cannot be argued with.
It can work for us too.
Download the iCobra App for Smart Phones. Works very well and is a free app. No more RLC or SC tickets if you just keep the volume up on the app. Spread the word.
It is all BS... neither Bill or Dean is that shallow.
Billy is shallow and arrogant and he will make the changes! Why have an election?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Off topic. This is regarding the FOP election. I heard if Dougherty wins, he's planning to kick out all the candidates that won their respective positions and replace them in the office with his people that lost their elections. They say that Kevin Graham, Jim Bailey, Sid Davis, Rich Aguilar, Sual Del Rivero will all be made Field Reps and work in the FOP office while the guys that actually won those elections will be out on the streets doing
...and I heard that Angelo is bringing up his son, Dean Jr, His brother in law, Ralph and Garrido's sister SS oh, and Tommy Mc... and the icing on the cake, to fill the vacated trustee spot by MD....Dan S...for repayment. CAN HE DO THIS.... OH YES HE CAN.
It is all BS... neither Bill or Dean is that shallow.
3/16/2014 08:23:00 PM
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At VRI roil call at the 11th district Dougherty said Aguliar will stay up stairs no matter what if he gets elected. From his lips to my hears in the hall way after roll was over.
Gotta love the old Crown Vic squad in the lakeshore drive standoff. Great look with about 50 percent of the paint peeled off the hood and top. What junk CPD rolls for its officers.
3/16/2014 05:11:00 PM
Hey, mon, they Bondo real good. Then ees turquoise peenk an primer gray. You no comprende Cheech an Chong?
Saw that. Classic shot.
When the camera salesman told Rahm that the cameras would generate $70M /yr, that money was as good as spent. Even tho there was no rational basis to believe the salesman's inflated pitch, the City saw dancing dollar signs and had an orgasm.
Anyone with a brain could know that they cameras would never come close to that level of production as people would adjust their behavior when faced with negative consequences for the acts.
Slow down people. If you slow down enough, eventually the revenue will fall below the maintenance costs of the cameras and they will either be removed or they will break and not be repaired.
Those yellow tags are on the cars
purchased with dope sales money on
Cicero or Western.
Heck the hypes, mostly pot-heads,
need a way to get to their favourite stop-and-cop site. Yesterday, I was
riding a southbound Homan/Kimball bus and I smelt the scent of someone
smoking pot and on the westside the
pungent scent of smoking pot comes
out of a lot of open car windows.
Scary thought. (not the Police)
Yes he can. Appears you don't understand the election. None of these guys won the the election for field rep because there was no election for the inside FOP office spots. They won the election for 1st VP,3VP,etc not field rep. Why is that so hard to understand? The president has the power to appoint po's to those spots. Has been that way since the FOP started. This is nothing new.
Not agreeing with the situation, but read the FOP by laws.
Just because you can do something, does not mean you should. I find it sad that the only District guy that was elected to exec board won't even be considered for an upstairs spot with Bill. Kinda reminds me of the Merit list for promotions.
Anonymous said...
What are the odds of winning an appeal on a "red light camera?" I heard only about 10%. I caught a ticket but the first frame shows me trying to brake (brake lights on) & then sliding through. Ice and snow were evident.
3/16/2014 11:23:00 PM
So--you were driving too fast for conditions?
Just pay up.
Rich Aguilar does a good job, that's why he got thrown out by them members.
Anonymous said...
OT- just curious, was big Garry at the scene on LSD, or did he find it more important to get his drink on for st pats day?? Heard big Leo all over the radio... But someone seemed MIA. And I sure hope this pos got an anov, since that's what's important to this police dept.
3/16/2014 04:29:00 PM
The ANOV commander from 19 was there for a bit then ran and hid in his office in 019 like he does every Sunday while 1800 carried the LSD event for the CPD. Leadership at its finest.
Eh cry babies let's do the right thing tomorrow and draw a republican ballet and elect the only hope civil servants have left in the city who can beat mush head Quinn that is Dillard. A vote for Rauner is a vote for Rahm. He is the Devil my friends and. If Rauner is elected you are giving Rahman and him you pay check. Have some balls and vote and if you see any police officers working the polls for the democrats notify the watch commander and demand a CR for a rule violation. They want you to turn in other cops for kicking ass and stealing turn in their friends for campaigning.
My kid goes to Univ of iowa, and the Iowa City police there all have shoulder mounted cameras. They win 95% of all their cases in court, and rarely have complaints, never mind sustained complaints.
My kids went to the U of Iowa a few years back. At that time,without the cameras they won 99% of the cases. You can't compare Iowa City with Chicago.
Court system and police are completely different there.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What are the odds of winning an appeal on a "red light camera?" I heard only about 10%. I caught a ticket but the first frame shows me trying to brake (brake lights on) & then sliding through. Ice and snow were evident.
3/16/2014 11:23:00 PM
Don't bother. You were traveling too fast for conditions (condition being ice) and with or without the camera, that was dangerous.
3/16/2014 06:19:00 AM
Amen to that
Screw you RAHM!! I tell everyone to contest every ticket issued by your cameras. I also inform people to call the Alderman to complain. Screw all you politicians who rubber stamped this idea.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Eh cry babies let's do the right thing tomorrow and draw a republican ballet and elect the only hope civil servants have left in the city who can beat mush head Quinn that is Dillard. A vote for Rauner is a vote for Rahm. He is the Devil my friends and. If Rauner is elected you are giving Rahman and him you pay check. Have some balls and vote and if you see any police officers working the polls for the democrats notify the watch commander and demand a CR for a rule violation. They want you to turn in other cops for kicking ass and stealing turn in their friends for campaigning.
3/17/2014 10:02:00 AM
Agreed on the Republican ballot, but no way will I deny a fellow police officer their right to support whoever they choose in an election. This isn't Nazi Germany.
What are the odds of winning an appeal on a "red light camera?" I heard only about 10%. I caught a ticket but the first frame shows me...
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Shows your car, you need to protest that they must prove you were driving. That could be anyone braking...
another loser thought up by our little einstein rahmbo--- it's all about the children, not this shylock stealing your money--- heard he wants all gas powered lawn mowers to pay for an emissions sticker and if you don't have it his gestapo revenue agents will give you an anov....
before the end of summer those speed cameras will be going 24 hours. "to protect the ...... somebody.
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