Write More ANOVs!
- Sneed has learned that Mayor Rahm Emanuel is ordering top cop Garry McCarthy to explain why misdemeanor marijuana possession means one thing on the North Side — and a very different thing on the South and West Sides.
◆Translation: Rahm, who is running for re-election, wants to know why police are choosing to arrest rather than ticket misdemeanor marijuana violators in African-American communities.
In a recent Sun-Times poll, only 8 percent of African-American voters surveyed said they would vote for Emanuel.
◆Buckshot: Unhappy with the statistics, the mayor is giving McCarthy 30 days to ensure the law is applied evenly across the city.
◆Backshot: Since the city ordinance was enacted almost two years ago — allowing officers to ticket or make an arrest — recent reports show officers have chosen to make an arrest 9 out of 10 times.
Darn you Officers - choosing to lock people up 9-out-of-10 times. Sneed closes with this quote from Sarah Hamilton, Rahm's communications director:
- “Every arrest results in cops off the street processing a low-level drug offense, rather than on the beat fighting serious crime.”
Another know-it-all who's never even seen a weed arrest versus a weed ANOV and certainly hasn't put a stop watch on it.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
51 Comments:
Locking these assholes up is how you cut down on the shootings. If they're in jail they can't be out shooting or getting shot.
Maybe if the animal of the West and South side was a little more inconspicuous with their intake of cannabis there would be far fewer arrests and/or ANOVs occurring in the first place. I'm well aware that plenty of well to do north side people smoke weed, but for the most part they try and not do it right in front of the police...
Last I heard there were several things which can disqualify you from receiving an ANOV. For instance, lack of a an ID/verification of identity, a likelihood the offender won't appear in court, or a likelihood that the offense will continue.
So if the offender doesn't have an ID, has a history of skipping court (been arrested for an outstanding warrant previously), or had a cannabis conviction in their past showing they are likely to repeat, an ANOV is not an option.
How is it the police departments fault if people in certain neighborhoods can meet the criteria to receive an ANOV better than other neighborhoods. The criteria must be racist!
So moral of the story here??? Keep licking them up for weed. It will make rahm look like a fool, hurt his chances at reelection and put McCarthys job on the line. Don't forget, weed is still illegal in the state and city, you still have a choice to ticket or arrest. Make him look stupid. For once we can help ourselves by arresting people!!
Sarah Hamilton isn't time for you to get your job at MSNBC.....you would fit right in. You don't bother with logic, intelligence or reasoning.
maybe they should have properly trained us on how to use the test kits. a video with no practice does nothing confidence wise.
Boy, is this person NOT in the know! It takes just as much time to write the ticket as doing an arrest. Sometimes even more time. We still have to go into the station and do a bunch of paper work every time. Besides, most people would rather be arrested because it costs them nothing. The courts do nothing to them while ANOVs cost them $$ or community service. I've had offenders request a physical arrest over tickets. Also, there are a set of peramiters someone can't be in in order to qualify for a ticket. One is you can't walk around smoking weed in public which is the norm in the ghettos. City hall needs to do their homework before getting political and sounding dumb.
Perhaps it's because no one carries and ID on the south side?
People of stressed income levels (there is THAT politically correct enough for you?) fail to carry proper identification as a rule. That way they can give false information about their identity when they are arrested.
You can't ticket someone if you don't have an ID to tell us who they are. It's not like voting, say for the President of the Country or the Mayor of this city. You get that, right Rahm?
"There's stupid and then there is real stupid. The eight percent of African-Americans who would vote for Rahm again are the latter."
ANOV weed is too involved and too complicated. they need to streamline it. that's why no one wants to do it.
Keep up the good work coppers.
Buckshot....mcCrap head only puts cops in black areas, cops are told to get theist quotas numbers into green in their performance evaluations on clear if they want to get a day off. Anov's don't count arrests do. Hmmmm?
Sarah Hamilton, Rahm's communications director:
“Every arrest results in cops off the street processing a low-level drug offense, rather than on the beat fighting serious crime.
Sounds a little like "why are you stopping me for speeding when there are real criminals out there? And we all know the end result of what that statement gets you!
Been retired 4 years now, but if I'm not mistaken, don't you have to have a valid ID on your person to be issued a ANOV?? I think that would account for the physical arrest total. I'm sure it hasn't changed much, none of these mutts have a valid ID. It's off to jail !!!!!
Old Retired Guy
Does he really need it spelled out -- without sounding racist-- north side predominantly tax paying citizens of all nationalities care more about the consequences of an unpaid ticket. They are 99.9% more likely to pay an anov ticket over someone being spoon fed by the government that does not have a care in the world about consequences or ever paying that ticket back. Anov's were created to generate money for the city. 100% goes to the city. Even if anov tickets are written in the ghetto the fines will never be collected. So Rahm if you are not smart enough to figure that out you probably should not be running for mayor again. Simply pathetic! -- ps it is not a race issue it is a who will pay the bill issue. -- also in terms of processing cost. I in terms if payroll it costs less to process an arrestee long form then writing an anov. Perhaps Rahm should do a ride along in the ghetto one night so he can see first hand how long these anovs really take to processes including the people in review and at the city. Man hours for one ticket $$$$ but don't say I told you so--go see for yourself Rahm
Thats a negative rough rider where as on the north side or suburbs most weed on the person is for personal use, where as on the south and west side, them boys is selling it, we call that possession sometimes with intent to deliver. Tell rhamo to bring up his pods from the south and west sides, and he do some surveillance he self. Truth hurts.
Then take the part about actively smoking it out
1 bus check a day.
The biggest problem is you need an ID for the cops to write you an ANOV. How about they check how many African Americans on the southside were arrested for weed possession vs. receiving an ANOV because they didn't have an ID. You also have to be at least 17 to receive one so that means all juveniles are physical arrests. What are some of the other requirements?
It's true - the one bag weed arrest by tact teams has not gone down but maybe up - all for a head #
“Every arrest results in cops off the street processing a low-level drug offense, rather than on the beat fighting serious crime.”
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Uh, no.
Every arrest means clearing a half dozen warrants.
This just in. No more locking up african americans nationally! It is now considered racist to even look at an african american now. If an officer has any contact with african americans, you cannot look them in the eyes and must keep your head down. Was just breaking news on CNN. And in Chicago it is only allowed to write ANOVs to white people. Heard it here first and big changes on Friday.
So moral of the story here??? Keep licking them up for weed. It will make rahm look like a fool, hurt his chances at reelection and put McCarthys job on the line. Don't forget, weed is still illegal in the state and city, you still have a choice to ticket or arrest. Make him look stupid. For once we can help ourselves by arresting people!!
5/29/2014 01:54:00 AM
As soon as we have to start licking them, dude Im out!
Why did the Chicago Tribune and the Sun Times online disable comments and make you register??
I guess people cant speak their mind or tell the truth about Rahm and his secrets and lies.
Because they can maybe? Yet again we let the asshole politicians use us as pawns!
f u rahm
Maybe if we didn't have 3-4 times the amount of police in minority neighborhoods they wouldn't get arrested so much. Why do we have so many police in minority neighborhoods anyways ? I be fine with more police locking up jag offs in the parks around my house.
Here's the thing…a disproportionate number of black people get locked up for weed because a disproportionate number of black people smoke the shit! I work in 019..ALL WHITE…and have NEVER observed anyone doing a weed ANOV. If the media looked at the overall percentages of white versus black arrests, i GUARANTEE the number is identical. So if there are people upset that blacks get locked up for doing illegal things, may I suggest talking on the community level about (wait for it0 not doing illegal things that land you in jail!!!
Christ it isn't rocket science!
Uninformed citizen here. How much of these pot arrests are from people who are being arrested for something else? You know, like theft or public intox or a domestic dispute or something. And in the process of being arrested, they find marijuana on their person... is that considered a "marijuana arrest?" You wouldn't arrest a guy for one thing and then give him a ticket for possession... right?
Pure and Simple. This is a way to generate revenue. Nothing more.
Thank you. S.C.C. Since this web site was started several good things have happened, only because it was brought to light. Some of the poor conditions we are expected to work in, the inconsistency of rules, the egos of a few bosses, and the equipment issues. Who can say if it wasn't brought to light it would have been fixed. Now everyone reads this blog, some won't admit it. My only wish is that some people would not be mean in some of the comments. This is a great job the only hard part is dealing with our own. The bad guy will always be the bad guy!
The majority of small amount weed arrests come from tact teams. Tact teams are asked to get heads, not write ANOVs. I work the lock-up on occasion, and regularly deal with arrests from tact teams, for minor cannabis possession, and the offender has an ID I have to inventory for the property bag.
I don't blame the tact guys. They are following orders from a different master (again, who wants heads, not ANOVs). Additionally, only one officer gets credit for the ANOV, not the entire team (such as the 8 assisting officers on the arrest report).
When I started this job, ANOVs counted as MCC arrests on your activity reports. That ended in 2002, which naturally resulted in a decline of officers writing ANOVs.
If the city wants more ANOVs, at the very least, the department should start counting them as MCC arrests on the officers activity reports again.
Anonymous said...
Perhaps it's because no one carries and ID on the south side?
5/29/2014 04:24:00 AM
Or can't find their I.D. in the five layers of clothing that they wear so it can be shed one layer at a time when running from the police.
Just to clarify the ID issue. If the ahole doesnt have a valid ID on them, however you can verify their ID via the CLEAR system you are supposed to issue the ANOV and not physically arrest. If they have a past arrest for weed or a bond forfeiture warrant in thier past this can be one of the exceptions that allows you to physically arrest.
The ANOV process is more cumbersome than arresting someone for pot. You want to keep coppers on the street, let them arrest people and get rid of ANOV's altogether.
As I've said in a previous post, GVRS (Gang Violence Reduction Stragegy) order requires court or cash bond on jailable offenses for gangbangers.
Why would I ever write an ANOV on someone I can have off the street for 24 hours then send to court??
Now, maybe there's a 'slight' difference in the number of gangbangers on the south/west sides vs. other neighborhoods, but that's another elephant in the room we can't talk about.
Anonymous said...
Locking these assholes up is how you cut down on the shootings. If they're in jail they can't be out shooting or getting shot.
That has always been my philosophy. And it fits in with the Broken Windows Theory that McComstat always talks about.
Lock every person up for weed , get them off the street for a few hours and in the system .
My brothers do not like to carry identification.
It helps if you don't give a phony name.
The war on drugs is a war on the people... The folks that make the laws break them with no repercussion
How is this a fucking story? Once again, a bad spin on the evil police. It makes more sense to lock up shithead anyhow. The idiot cant get shot while in custody. If theyre so unhappy about how we police then maybe they should hire more police and stop crying about how we work. I swear this city is doomed. It is like Detroit but just is dying slower than the big d did. Why stay here? Little good schools, diminished retirement, no health benefits after retiring, only rising taxes and crime soaring. The only things nice are Chicago sports and beautiful downtown scenery but even our dt gets overrun by savages because they dont put enough police down there.
There is a number of issues that are not addressed by the powers that be, and just trying to make voters happy can't change the facts.
Most all the comments here point out the various issues. Keep in mind that the I.D. option for arrest just means you can identify them and confirm identity. It is not only about possessing a state issued I.D..
People smoke weed, there is no getting around that, white, black, Hispanic, etc., but how they each do it is often the reason for the difference in enforcement. End of the day it is still illegal in this state so some form of enforcement is acceptable and expected.
Now if some yuppie/hipster/20 something kid on the north side has some weed, it is often much more discreet as they understand it is still illegal. If they are stopped in a car, they are rarely driving around smoking blunts and sipping out of plastic cups full of liquor. They also generally speaking have a valid D.L. and insurance and no background of criminal behavior.
Head to the south and west side and the story changes dramatically.
Let's start with the good citizens, the old folks and working stiffs that still manage to live in these areas. The only thing that makes them similar is the color of their skin, but they do everything they are supposed to do and work toward a positive and productive life. They are the victims of domestic terrorism every single day and often can't or won't step outside the house aside from getting in the car to head to work. Many may have lived there for decades as the neighborhood deteriorated around them.
The younger generations just don't seem to have any care in the world or even a respect for their own neighbors. They loiter about on the blocks and corners. They litter tobacco, blunt wrappers, plastic baggies, and crap from the gas stations all over the block. The smell of burning cannabis is always in the air as it has become the "acceptable" norm to smoke freely and constantly in the general public. These are also the same people that bring the violence to the neighborhood. Often armed and or selling drugs, they feud over rap lyrics and shoot at the drop of a dime. Much like the weed smoke there is no concern for where the bullets land, even if it is not the intended target.
These little animals need to be housed for the sake of the nice working people even if it is just for a few hours. Most any experienced officer can knock out a basic weed arrest in 30-45 minutes if all the elements are working together(desk, lock-up, etc.). Assuming they have given you at least one of several reasons to long form the arrest over ANOV.
Now this clown is not out on the street doing nothing of value and won't be shot, or shoot anyone. Many have also figured out that giving up a couple hours for a minor weed case is better then the mandatory fines associated with the ticket system. They will often opt for the arrest as that for better or worse means nothing to them.
The ANOV's still take time and still require an officer head into the station and complete a variety of paperwork. They are a good tool and a good alternative for certain situations, however some folks just don't deserve that option.
For the media and others:
The following subjects are not eligible for this program and must be placed under arrest and charged accordingly:
1. Subjects in the act of smoking cannabis.
2. Subjects under the influence of cannabis and in control of a motor vehicle.
NOTE:
Department members will follow procedures consistent with the Department directive entitled “Driving While Under the Influence—Implied Consent.”
3. Subjects in a school or on school grounds or property.
4. Subjects in a public park, playground, beach, or all other publicly accessible property under Chicago Park District control.
5. Subjects found violating the ordinance during the execution of a search warrant.
6. Evidence suggests the subject is in possession of cannabis with the intent to deliver. (720 ILCS 550.0 - Cannabis Control Act)
7. Subjects who do not qualify for an ANOV based on the restrictions outlined in the Department directive entitled "Exemptions and Restrictions for Issuing ANOV Citations."
such as:
1. the violator is less than 17 years of age.
2. the violator cannot or will not produce a valid picture identification card (i.e., State Identification card, Drivers License, or similar identification) or his or her identify cannot be verified via CLEAR.
3. the violator exhibits behavior which requires an officer to exert physical force to effect the arrest.
4. there is a reasonable likelihood that the offense will continue, recur, or that life or property will be endangered if the violator is not arrested and removed from the scene of the occurrence.
5. there is a reasonable likelihood that the violator will fail to appear at the hearing.
6. there is a reason to believe that a warrant may be outstanding against the violator.
7. the violator refuses to sign the ANOV citation. When such a refusal occurs, the violator will be informed that a refusal to sign the ANOV citation will subject him or her to physical arrest. If the violator still refuses to sign the citation after it has been completed, the ANOV citation will be canceled in accordance with the procedures outlined in the Department directive titled "Municipal Administrative Hearings."
8. if after completing the mandatory name check of the violator, the officer is informed by OEMC or via the PDT, REPEAT ANOV VIOLATOR: NOT ELIGIBLE FOR ANOV, the officer will not issue an ANOV. A mandatory physical arrest will be made.
Now, find a model citizen with some weed on him/her on a south side that does not fall into any of those categories mentioned above.
GOOD LUCK!
Man weed is racist...
COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC :
I will be sitting on the rooftop of the Dunkin Donuts at Foster and Nagle, collecting money for the Illinois Special Olympics. Dunkin Donuts is participating with law enforcement in Illinois to help the athletes of Special Olympics. If you can come by and throw money in my bucket, the athletes would greatly appreciate it.
Thank-you,
Mike McDermott
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“Every arrest results in cops off the street processing a low-level drug offense, rather than on the beat fighting serious crime.”
dere ain't nuttin' low level 'bout my offense(s).
Chalkie
McCarthy said at ComStat that ANOV's should be written for all lesser crimes. No RD# means it is not reported in the count we send to the FEDS, and reported out. "Crime is Decreasing". It's all good.
The signing of the anov by offender is pointless and awkward for the officer to request! I don't want these fucks using my pen. If you have their info via identification why the fuck do they have to sign it?? Get rid of it. Is this the 50's?? They don't sign a parker and people still pay them. And taking a DL as bond for a traffic ticket? FUCKING STUPID! Get rid of that too! Just extra shit to turn in. Again if you have their identification and its written on the ticket, what the fuck is the difference?? Ewww now the city has my DL?? BIG FUCKING DEAL! I can just pay 20 bucks to get a duplicate. Not too big of a deterrant there! GET RID OF IT!
BronxBullschitzHere said...
"There's stupid and then there is real stupid. The eight percent of African-Americans who would vote for Rahm again are the latter."
5/29/2014 05:33:00 AM
You must mean 80%. They vote straight Democratic. So do the Hispanics and Asians.
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