Go Utah!
- A hotly contested proposal that resurrects Utah's use of firing squads to carry out executions narrowly passed a key vote Friday in the state's Legislature after three missing lawmakers were summoned to break a tie vote.
The Republican-controlled House of Representatives voted 39-34 Friday morning to approve the measure, sending it to an uncertain fate in the state's GOP-controlled Senate. Leaders in that chamber have thus far declined to say if they'll support it, and Utah's Republican Gov. Gary Herbert won't say if he'll sign it.
Hey, if the prison systems can't get the necessary drugs from overseas and American companies are banned from or won't make the drugs needed to carry out executions, then we're all for bringing back the tried and true methods like firing squads, hangings and electrocutions, comfort of the condemned be damned.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Last summer I was in Wyoming and visited the Wyoming Territorial Prison, which is a museum now. They had a very cool gallows there. They put the rope around the guys head and the other end was tied to a bucket of water. The water would leak into a bucket under the trap door. When that bucket got full, the trap door would open and the hanging was done executioner free.
Who was the judge in the movie that said I give a man a fair trail, then take him out back and hang him?
Too bad we can't export our death-row eligible inmates there.
In the immortal words words of Gary Gilmore: LET'S DO IT!
It isn't that American drug companies/pharmacies don't make or can't get the drugs. They refuse to sell to the states because the courts have ruled that such sales are public knowledge. The drug companies and/or pharmacies don't want the adverse publicity, and possible lawsuits from the anti-capital punishment lawyers and loonies.
Expect the supreme court to declare capital punishment unconstitutional in the next few years. Many many judges and politicians consider it a barbaric practice.
Firing Squads are not cruel and unusual. And when the ACLU tries to claim that, the prosecutors should start claiming special circumstances in any shooting death.
What the help, let's go for stoning!
Why not donate the heroin sitting around at ERPS? Those skid marks would be waiting in line to end their life.
Not likely to happen, too gruesome/painful a death.
Sounds good to me. I am sure they have no lack of volunteers to pick up a rifle.
There are videos on line showing WW2 executions of Nazi soldiers convicted by military courts. 6 men with M-1 rifles from about 10 yds. Bang! Done with. Quick and certain, cheap as well.
I'm all for it!
Bring back hangings "Old West Style"! Hang'em high!
YEE! HAA!!
A thick rope costs nothing as compared to bullets, electricity, and poisons!
Hanging is the cheapest form of death penalty!
We NEED this in Illinois!
What the fuck? What is the big fucking deal? If someone is given a death sentence then being executed by a firing squad is not going to hurt like being slowly tortured. It will hurt a little but at least the pain won't be extended for hours or days.
I always thought that allowing the victims family to pull the trigger, yank the lever or flip the switch would be a nice satisfying touch on the day of reckoning.
Japanese prisons know how to do it. Prisoners get short, harsh sentences. They don't want to go back. They have to confess to their jailers. NYT article talks about the discipline. Frequently prisoners that follow the rules get out early. If you break the rules.....its not pretty.
http://www.nytimes.com/1996/07/08/world/prisons-in-japan-are-safe-but-harsh.html
I like the guillotine. Once it's built it costs nothing, requires no use of fossil fuels, just gravity. Very energy efficient. Death is instant and sure. If the crime was particularly heinous, the convict can be laid on his back, face up and you can do some false drops to fuck with his head. Execution should be televised to every lockup, jail and prison in the country. Inmates should be required to watch.
I'm still trying to figure out why the wipe the death row inmates arm with an alcohol wipe prior to giving them a lethal injection.
What are they afraid of before his demise... infection?
Can any liberal answer me what is so unethical/ cruel about firing squads? The criminal is dead in nano seconds and they dont have pain or suffering.
It's a far better option than legal injection. China executes thousands of criminals this way every year.
OT:
Has any retiree received their retro check via
US Mail yet?
Thanks, be safe.
The only death penalty in Illinois will death for police.
This isn't Utah.
Maybe obama could call some of his isis friends and we could ship planeloads of our thugs over there, they could display them like the animals they are!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2952924/ISIS-releases-video-claiming-17-Kurdish-fighters-humiliating-caged-procession-Iraqi-city-Kirkuk.html
We would save so much taxpayers money, our crime rate would fall dramatically, the savages would be with their kind savages a win win!
amen
Utah's got balls.....and bullets.
Rick weaver said...
There are videos on line showing WW2 executions of Nazi soldiers convicted by military courts. 6 men with M-1 rifles from about 10 yds. Bang! Done with. Quick and certain, cheap as well.
2/15/2015 07:16:00 AM
Many SS officers and troops were quickly dispatched that way from Normandy on to Germany. SS were the least likely to be taken as prisoners. Many were killed on the spot.
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Who was the judge in the movie that said I give a man a fair trail, then take him out back and hang him?
2/15/2015 12:12:00 AM
Several said that in movies but probably the most well known was Judge Roy Bean.
"...you can rest assured that in this court, a horse thief always gets a fair trial before he's hung."
Many people who think of themselves as true Americans forget that one of the reasons we fought the American Revolution was to do away with "cruel and unusual" punishments. Having said that, there is something very wrong when egregious murderers are granted a more humane death that 99% of the American populace.
If we had the death penalty here, murders would decline! It makes no sense this criminal Ryan started no death penalty, a felon decided this and it is law! Another reason this corrupt state,city,county is rapidly flushing down the drain! Ask the murder victims families if they suffered? How about that poor innocent ISP troopers sister murdered by a savage who should of never been released from prison? Ask the family! Enough of coddling the criminals! You injure someone in my family "there is no law just the struggle to survive"" the savage will struggle, being the hunted!
Why not just asphyxiate people? Either have someone choke them out, or let them breathe nitrogen gas for a few minutes.
I propose we make them watch Rahms political commercials over and over until they bore themselves to death.
Guillotine perhaps?
This bullshit about the lethal injections not being painless or effective is just an excuse not to execute someone.
Many of us have had to put a beloved pet down. The vet administers pentobarbital and they drop in a few seconds and then their heart stops in about a minute.
If that's good enough for our animals, it sure is good enough for those who have forfeited their right to live in society.
My suggestion is just get a large animal vet and give the bastard a lethal dose.
Perhaps we should behead them. The President doesn't seem to be bothered by that at all.
ISIS seems to have that problem solved.
It's quick but messy.
or..How about a cup of hemlock?
Shortage of Drugs? Lawsuits from pain in the ass lawyers.
Why use otherwise legit pharmaceuticals? Just use the purest HEROIN* seized by the law enforcement. That would kill quickly and painlessly and would make a statement about drug abuse.
*HEROIN (Chemical name is diacetylmorphine) the feminine of hero is a trademark name of the Bayer Pharmaceutical Company of Germany.
ISIS just sawed the heads off of about 22 poor Egyptian laborers working in Libya for the job, and idiots here are still focused on some "Nazis."
Turn the binocs the right way around. Maybe then you could see something.
Anonymous said...
ISIS seems to have that problem solved.
It's quick but messy.
or..How about a cup of hemlock?
Shortage of Drugs? Lawsuits from pain in the ass lawyers.
Why use otherwise legit pharmaceuticals? Just use the purest HEROIN* seized by the law enforcement. That would kill quickly and painlessly and would make a statement about drug abuse.
*HEROIN (Chemical name is diacetylmorphine) the feminine of hero is a trademark name of the Bayer Pharmaceutical Company of Germany.
2/16/2015 12:00:00 PM
Heroin is not on any approved drug schedule in the US. It is not approved for anything by the FDA. There is no legal source in the US for pharmacy grade pure Heroin. I don't believe it is available anywhere but illicit labs. Don't look for it to be made available anytime soon. It is a very good pain reliever but is shunned because of it's association with drug addicts. Deadly doses of Heroin will have the same problems now associated with the lethal cocktails now used.
Firing squad is the best and simplest using 30-06 rifles. 8 men, 8 rifles, 8 cartridges. If they get squeamish and start bellyaching about 8 men with rifles missing middle of chest targets from 25 yards then mount the rifles in bench rests and pre-aim.
To: 2/16/2015 10:02:00 PM
Heroine, besides what is seized by law enforcement is made by a federal government farm and lab in Mississippi.
Being associated with the drug culture would be part of the point of using it to make a statement.
.30-06 would be over powering over penetrating. .30carbine would do just fine.
Anonymous said...
Why not just asphyxiate people? Either have someone choke them out, or let them breathe nitrogen gas for a few minutes.
2/15/2015 05:51:00 PM
Pure carbon-monoxide gas just puts them to sleep painlessly and causes death in short order.
Alternately, put them in a room with my second wife for a few days and they will demand someone kill them real quick like.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT:
Has any retiree received their retro check via
US Mail yet?
Thanks, be safe.
2/15/2015 11:55:00 AM
Hard check...
Certified Letter receipt. Gotta go to your post office, show gov't ID and sign for it.
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