Thanks for the Advice Al
First Deputy talking smack at CompStat:
- This is kind of important. The first deputy got up at Compstat today and more or less told us to have our troops ignore the contact card lawsuit and keep " putting hands on people". That getting sued is part of "putting on the uniform". Perhaps you could get a transcript of this over promoted moron's statement, although I'm sure it's been heavily redacted after the supe heard what this buffoon said.
Not "Do the right thing," or "Do the proper thing," or "Let's make sure our people are following procedures." Nope, it's all about "putting hands on people" and don't worry about being sued.
Sorry Al, it isn't the 1980's any more. It isn't even the 1990's.
Sorry Al, it isn't the 1980's any more. It isn't even the 1990's.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
151 Comments:
Is Al some kind of three star dummy? Never heard this guy talk. He always stands behind McNutty with that blank stare. Lights are on but nobody home look.
O/T but SCC what would you say to P.O.s being asked to do shit SWs like this?
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417155/wisconsins-shame-i-thought-it-was-home-invasion-david-french
Write on the contact card that Al told you to this.....than You and uncle al both get sued...
Take back the city or give it up.
There needs to be a total shake-up of all CPD leadership.
Right now CPD Leadership is an oxymoron.
You guaranteed that when you re-elected Rahm.
Ineffective leadership is killing - NO, has killed - the effectiveness of strong authority on the streets.
You might as well put up a sign at all the entrances =
Dodge City- come in at your own risk and bring your own firearm. Don't count on us to keep law and order. We're just trying to get through the day.
How about Obama and Eric Holder? Won't they protect CPD from lawsuits?
Sure...look how well that worked out for Glenn Evans (obama's crazy uncle-if he would've had one).... show us how it's done boss!!!!...when is the last time our deputy put his hands on someone!?
Keep " putting hands on people"
CPD's professional management leads the nation in innovative policing methods.
Tell that Moron to put it in writing
maybe he meant continue doing what is necessary to uphold the law with the confidence of knowing you have the support and full trust of the department and the city...
Oh, wait, I was daydreaming again and for a minute I thought it was 1955.
Hey Al, will you pay my legal costs, my bills when I lose my job, my punitive damages, and pay for my housing after I lose my palacial estate? Fuck you, you over-promoted moron.
If you haven't already done so, guys and girls, stop writing contact cards. Citywide. No more. Fuck them. Let's stop doing it now.
Hey Al, not everybody has your kind of juice, if we step on out toes nobody is gonna swoop in and save us, so save you advice for all the hacks you put in cushy spots and leave us beat coppers alone.
if your old and you don't know how to use a computer proficiently then you are out of the loop. Don't tell us about how to do our jobs. We know what to do in this modern world.
Fuck You Boss...
Fuck You Very Much.
Wysinger is no better than the m/fers he wants us
to "keep putting hands on."
Don't worry about the lawsuits?
This here is 2015 you ignorant ass...
Not 1995 or even 1985.
Policemen are fucking being PANTSED in
these lawsuits and municipalities, agencies,
mayors, and exempts (commissioners, superintendents and chain-of-command) are running
And hiding from Policemen hung on the horns of these lawsuits.
Nothing for a Policeman to hide behind for cover but everybody expects him to "honor his oath" and be "self sacrificing" and take the FEDERAL LICK complete with ruinous punitive damages.
What are YOU risking, Alfonza?
Oh... Fuck the "Alligator Arm" Police because you e exempt humps think they're expendable.
Yeah Alfonza...
The Feds should blow into Chicago and walk this
Contact Card nonsense from the exempt echelon on down.
Make YOU sweat and lose sleep at night as you toss and turn about calling in a "Check Bid" on that nice big retirement home you're allegedly building in ATL.
"Being sued is part of wearing the uniform..."
It's a NEW muthafuckin' day Mistuh Deputy.
Or have you been paying attention to how
this anti-Police climate has been trending?
You talk like a m/fer that has been taken care of for his ENTIRE career.
BTW... McCarthy laughs at ALL you Chicago exempts.
Especially your stooge ass.
Every royal court has it's jesters.
You and the others are only kept around for
amusement seeing as how you refuse to
stand up for yourselves and for the men and women
in the field and doing the job with one hand tied behind
their backs.
Lead from the front Mistuh Deputy.
Be a man. Roll the dice.
Be the paragon of Chicago Policing and
show us blue shirt slackers and laggards
how YOU would manfully list YOUR assets
and shrug off the possibility of losing
EVERYTHING as merely "part of wearing the
uniform."
Everybody can wave at you and yours pushing
shopping carts piled with what's left of your
worldly belongings to that shelter on Harrison St.
Nobody there giving a fuck about who you used to be...
BTW...
Give that Lambert Tree Award back.
There were others much more deserving
ok u MUSH.
I had over 29 years on the job and couldnt get promoted once. This ignoranmus who spells shit with 2 T's is second in charge Un fucking real
What a total and complete crock of shit!
While you're at it, Alfonza. Give back the Lambert Tree. Your "valor" hardly deserved a honorable mention. If you choose to keep this award, you're as phony as a three dollar bill.
For shame!
lol, this coming from a moron who has no idea how to do a stop himself. Truly goes to show you what they mean by the blind leading the blind.
Yea right stupid! Tell that to the Federal Courts!
Turds really do go to the top in shitcago
The Loevy boys, the PLO, Flint Taylor, Brendan Schiller et al., must've bitched at Rahm al-Ghoul and McViagraTriangle about Coppers starting to sit on their hands really hard ahead of the pending Contact Card litigation.
"You cops actin' like you're too good to get in trouble. We won't be able to make as much money if you guys are shy about generating those contact cards.
Ehhh... Fuck all y'all...
We like living in our house.
We like for our bank accounts to be unmolested.
We like our freedom.
We like the company of family and friends.
We don't like being shit-talked by Al for refusing to
take HIS accountability bullet for this contact card mess.
When Contact Cards mutated from their original fairly well defined purpose into a measure for "production" and "activity," (again with the fatal flaw of overlaying bean-counterism over something as dangerous, unpredictable, messy and shitty as Chicago Policing)
the table was set for Polkcemen to get hurt.
I'll do it as long as Al is sitting next to me in Federal Court listing his assets! Otherwise Fuck you stupid! The Federal Courts are going to throw us under the bus over stupid contact cards!
I say it's time to send Al some more Dunkin Donuts coupons via department mail.
Fuck you, Al, you pathetic merit hack extraordinaire.
I used to care about this career. I enjoy this still to this day and I will go to bat for anyone. I will back up all cops dog or not. However I will not be ignorant and get sued just do a boss can have numbers. Nobody protects us boys and girls. Dint get sucked in by the pat on the back.
It is the correct answer from AL.
Since his butt will never be sitting for depositions or sitting in court answering all the questions on why you took it upon yourself to violate someone's civil rights.
We all know what happens when the lights are turned on. The vermin hide.
Just read what happen in NYPD and LAPD, regarding stop and frisk cases and what they had to change and eventually pay out to the poor victims.
JUST SAYING, 29 and a day proves more then a contact card does
Hitler also told the troops to keep loading the criminal gypsies into the railcars.
It's time for a Re-Post:
Fuck You Wysinger!
This guy is an absolute definition of a moron.
You should listen to his "canned" speech to how he made 1st deputy superintendent from his rise from the ghetto.
You will throw up in your mouth.
Poor Al. He's a nice guy in way over his head.
Yeah. He can can say that. His name is not on the contact card. And the Deputy's name will not be on the lawsuit either.
Where's the black outrage over this moron's statement?
Hope he's the first name on the first lawsuit for giving the orders.
Come on out Al and show us how it's done. You could have Cornelia as your partner. Great opportunity to lead by example. LOL
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-chicago-comed-met-20150424-story.html
Another failed rham program he pushed.
What a douchebag.
It's all fun and games till someone loses an eye. In this case it's your job and house, and any possibility of future employment.
No one is surprised. In fact the dept has an unwritten policy for white shirts to violate the constitutional rights of blue shirts without concerns of legal action being taken against them. Take a look at the 2nd watch in 018. Just a little over a year now that an all white Federal Jury convicted a retired cpt, an active Lt, and 2 Sgts of violating the constitutional rights of 2 Officers on the same watch. A half million dollars of tax payers money thrown out the window and the dept. continues to permit 3 Sgts currently assigned to the 2nd watch to engage is the same illegal conduct. One of those Sgts was a defendant in the previous lawsuit. I wonder where this behavior is learned ?
Mcjersey shore and his stupid lets build an illegal database is the cause of this. Al is ignorant but compliant. All these commanders should have to sit down at a deposition and say yes I ordered the contact card code red. Everyone of them will lie and deny that they demanded contact cards the poor PO's and stupid Sgt's that signed and approved the cards will be the one left holding the bag.
Just answer your calls only. Don't get thrown into the trick bag.
Hell, it isn't even the early 2000's lol. It's OVER.
Good advice boss, your building that super mansion is it in Georgia? You can retire with what a $160,000 year pension? Yes we will get sued and lose out on our house,freedom,family, pension you enjoy yours don't worry about us "little people" if you said that you really need to resign soon, you know like today! Even the younger "skulls full of mush" won't listen to extremely bad advice! Being sued now is not part of being the "police" no sir its part of giving greedy lawyers your earned money! Sorry not going to bite, like when Eve tempted Adam with the apple look what happened!
"Can't touch this".
MC Hammer - 1990
(and stay out' the Dunkin Donuts too)
hey I am not their Daddy or Mommy Let CHIRAQ take care of thinning of the herd, I will take care of myself, and partner.
Contact Card system is not followed people contact carded information is supposed to be purged and deleted after 1 year in our database our very own Director and Commander of each responsible unit keeps the data beyond the 1 year requirement thereby making you a part of the problem.
1st Deputy read the Department Directive before you take the floor and make such utterances!
Think he'll testify in your defense? Having your name legally changed to "Defendant" in Federal Court is not a pleasant experience, and I say that from experience. In addition the Corp Counsel that is representing you, if it is a certain female, who is one of the City's "star" leads, HATES COPS. Consider what I am saying very carefully; imposition of ANY form of quotas is impossible to defend.(Pay attention Lt and Capt in 011) Bosses are under pressure to create an image of "activity" to balance against crime stats. If crime is up, they can say, well as you can see it is not our fault because look at all the "Contacts" we are producing. If crime is down, they can base it on all of the "Contacts" we are doing. How about this one, Use that Kansas Study, that you have been praising for the last 40 years, which shows Police Presence has little or no effect on crime. How about this one, when a culture declines and cultural values cease to exist, people become animals; that is the Real Issue.When they fear the gangs more than the police, we have another Mexico. Meanwhile, Parasite Attorneys will profit from the stupidity of police leadership and political prostitutes. While cops are on the bottom of the food chain, even lower than the Good Citizens you arrest. If you doubt me, next time a cop is murdered, be sure to look for the National Media Outrage, the Protests, the Burning and Looting. Because there will be none. Coppers are on their own."G"
I once had two FBI agents tell me to kick in a door of a house in order to search the house for a missing person. I asked them on what authority would I do that? No probable cause here as this is just a neighborhood search. I told them if they thought this was so important they could kick in the door and search the house. They left. "Following orders" is no longer an excuse for doing anything illegal.
A perfect example of the Peter Principle. He should have been a mail carrier.
Hey your treading in dangerous water calling a Lambert Tree Hero a Moron.
He's right getting sued is part of the Job and when you're heavy as whale shit as he's is you have nothing to worry about. If you don't they'll nail you to the cross. Barrabas out.
You know people always say that about the fact that it "isn't how it used to be." Or this isn't the 60's, 70's, 80's, etc.. No doubt that is true as time has moved on, and it would have been true in the 80's that it wasn't the 60's or 70's anymore, facts of life.
However even with changes in bosses, department regulations, and even LAWS, it doesn't change what is right or wrong. Just because things were allegedly done in the past, likely before cameras being readily available at every turn, doesn't mean it was right then and it doesn't mean it is right now.
As you pointed out, the illustrious boss should have spoke about knowing your job and doing the right thing. These assholes on the street give us plenty of reasons to interact every single day, if you can't figure out how to articulate any of that than you need a new job. If you think that generating activity for the sake of "top numbers" or loading a humper is good than you are just a fool. By all means work, and do your job, but understand that we work close to the line that divides cops and criminals. The scrutiny is on us and the court of public opinion is not in our favor.
Read the changes in laws, understand them and how to use them. In the words of General Mattis- "Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone."
2 words al... BLOW ME. And I'm a female.
No Training Just ask Any Retred that's gone through the academy.
They make you attend nonsense classes that are being taught that day and nothing more. Get your signatures in a blue folder and You're Trained
Wait till the Summer Protests
.......in ChIraq
My bud said that a Lame brain Sgt stated at roll call
First thing if they video tape you seize the phone and get a search warrant and lock them up
He forgot to state that you'll be FIRED and in JAIL
Classic example of CPD No leadership run a muck
It's as though he was unaware of the inability of the city to reimburse the officer for punitive damages. One doesn't even have to be wrong anymore at the fed building and most judges won't correct the jury award
Crappy contract, uncertain pension, low moral, merit bosses with no experience, broken equipment, terrible union representation, city residency and liberal judges and politicians are a few reasons i only answer my job and assist officers. Have that boss put that suggestion in writing.
Follow me men!
Charge!!!!
I'll be in my office......
Who was the first deputy?
I made sergeant by the list and he was a merit one back in 1998. I have never in my over 25 yrs ever had a boss sitting next to me for all my lawsuits and cr#s...... Like I tell everyone don't get CC 's for activity sake, it's gonna bite you in the ass.......
AL you go 1st. yea didn't think so.
The only fight that cannot be won is the fight in which we foolishly abide by the rules that which are determined by this fool. Life is not a game of chess, and a man can choose to be more than a pawn anytime he has the guts to do so.
Some may not be smart enough or courageous enough to see it, but we must decide what happens next.
Shaving that head a little too close these days.
What a tool this guy is.
Clearly a figure head who needs to be told to keep his mouth shut
Keep listening to these fools and see how far it gets you. While you are giving your deposition to a federal investigator, those bosses that gave you the ra ra speeches and told you to go out and get your hands dirty are sitting nice and comfortable in their summer homes far away from this shithole, enjoying the gold braid pensions they received after being promoted for all the work YOU did as their subordinate. We are not officers to many of these bosses. Instead, we are rungs on the ladders of their careers to be stepped on as they climb their way up the ranks. There's a reason why the pawns always go first!
What a Frickin 3 Star Moron , Sure and when get start getting sued through Civil Court also , Dumb Bo will be there to help you. Hes got to go
you can sue anyone for anything, as long as your stop is a terry stop you can write all the cc cards you want
Rules and Regulations:
"...the Department’s role is to enforce the law in a fair and impartial manner, recognizing both the statutory and judicial limitations of police authority and the constitutional rights of all persons."
"Obey all laws and promptly execute all lawful orders.
This summer is going to be out of control. Be careful physically and legally
our....pal.....Al!
as long as the photo taken of the command staff "represents" the community (blacks, whites hispanics, men, women, gays, etc.), it's all good!....nothing in the photo represents honesty, experience, intelligence, and character...but it looks good to the liberal main stream media (while there are over 100 murders and over 400 folks shot in Chicago to date)...anyway, my pal Al wants more contact cards....he'll make one hell of a witness in the lawsuit
If that's the case, I'd like to hear his opinion on Baltimore? This is what happens when we put our hands on a creature that is culturally predisposed to resist.
For all the useless idiotic training crap we have to sit through, I'd like US to be the ones to spark the discussion on race that the cowardly black leaders refuse to have. In conversations in roll call rooms the opinions and experiences are MILES apart. Let us take the lead.
Al Wysinger is the equivalent of a three-star bust out hanging by the front door of the station talking shit and waving a big-assed puck of Kiwi and a spray bottle at every Copper that walks by.
He knows/heard enough to be dangerous but isn't fit to shine a real Policeman's shoes.
Awards and commendations are lost on an unconscious incompetent like him.
"If y'all would just be more like me..."
In the words of General Mattis- "Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone."
4/25/2015 10:43:00 AM
General Motors had the same plan. Chip in and buy Al a '60 Corvair.
Poor sap!
I almost feel sorry for AL he has been promoted to high.
I see him as the head of the potholes unit or may be 1 of those fun CAPs director spots with no staff.
Anonymous said...
No Training Just ask Any Retred that's gone through the academy.
They make you attend nonsense classes that are being taught that day and nothing more. Get your signatures in a blue folder and You're Trained
4/25/2015 10:51:00 AM
Want to really see some horseshit? Ask the front office in your district for a printout of your training record. On paper you will look like the most highly trained SOB in the City. Every streaming video is down there as a training session. Whether you watched it or not, whether the volume was turned up or not, whether the computer was turned on or not, whether you were at work or not.
Total bullshit.
Anita is hunting for the next copper to step on his SHLONG. She looked like a moron on the Cervin case. Funny no riots about the ASA drunk in the dildo store.
Rahms not backing Alvarez and PRICK-WRINKLE is going in for the State attorney spot.
I implore the working police to watch DAT ass.
nonymous said...
Take back the city or give it up.
There needs to be a total shake-up of all CPD leadership.
Right now CPD Leadership is an oxymoron.
You guaranteed that when you re-elected Rahm.
Ineffective leadership is killing - NO, has killed - the effectiveness of strong authority on the streets.
You might as well put up a sign at all the entrances =
Dodge City- come in at your own risk and bring your own firearm. Don't count on us to keep law and order. We're just trying to get through the day.
4/25/2015 12:27:00 AM
We just had a shake-up of the command staff and there isn't more than two or three out of nearly twenty who actually ever passed a promotional examination high enough to be promoted in rank order. It's affirmative actions finest hour!
I've never been to a comstat circle jerk. Would someone describe how Al looks propped up on GMacs knee with GMacs hand up the back of his shirt.
Unless that knucklehead is right next to me ordering me to do a certain thing and a videographer is recording the thing I am not putting hands on anyone. Got that Wysinger?
If Al were a man he would have refused that Lambert Tree and told them to give it to a PO. Unless Al took bullets himself. Which he did not. I've arrested stickup guys, with guns, because that is what we did. No ribbons, no medals, just a few hours overtime and the satisfaction that we put two shitheads in prison and one in the ground. But that was one Federal lawsuit ago and back when I would be first to a job if I could manage it.
Let Al get sued and list all his assets on paper for shitheads lawyer. Not me.
Fuck him. Typical boss. His knows he will never be on the hook for the lowley PO'S making him and the others look good so they can get promoted. Remember, you will find yourself very alone when you get jammed. It's a fact. Look at history.
Retired 2010 after 29yrs Hit with a Lawsuit by disgruntled mental f/B who turns out was angry at some very heavy weight old retired white bosses....but somehow they all escaped fed suit as city killed it for them. Me, lol, a no clout F/W sgt and one working F/minority PO left twisting in the wind on Plaintif next beef against us for doing one hundred percent right actions. 4 long yrs later we beat a Lovey law crew in 5 days court trial. Not once in all the time, the case dragged out did I hear one word from the CPD or Union. Point is whatever you do you are left hanging out to dry without clout. So always follow the letter of the law, and yes refuse any unlawful order by any boss unless, you can and do document on paper, ie contact card that you are doing such activity by order of Lt/Capt etc. They will punitively punish you in the usual limited ways and talk shit about you behind your back. But rest assured those lamebrain clouted ones will not continue to press you to do anything to land themselves in fed court....and if they do wind up in there: the city will settle and you will be spared just like them. Second point you are not safe from suits once retired, and you do not get reimbursed for having to be tied up time spent getting thru the court process. Always know the current laws and GO s and SO s and be prepared to back yourself up! All said and done, I still miss the real street police and the good job you guys and gals do under worst working conditions ever. Stay strong/God keep you safe. Old school R/Sgt
Say yes sir, then do what tou want. Remember, Al is where he's at to keep the 'runs happy.
Anonymous said...
How about Obama and Eric Holder? Won't they protect CPD from lawsuits?
4/25/2015 12:31:00 AM
Not any more. Holder is retired. It is Loretta Lynch. I think she was a Country and Western star; coal miner's daughter or something like that.
Mayor Rahm Emanuel is running red traffic lights the vehicle(s) transporting the Mayor is not an AUTHORIZED EMERGENCY VEHICLE per Illinois Vehicle code, can't wait for a lawsuit to get filed against the City of Chicago after an accident occurs!
Crappy contract, uncertain pension, low moral, merit bosses with no experience, broken equipment, terrible union representation, city residency and liberal judges and politicians are a few reasons i only answer my job and assist officers. Have that boss put that suggestion in writing.
AMEN
I cant wait till 20 bye bye
Word on the street is that the First Deputy's wife is a sergeant making commanders pay by sitting in an office. Nice car sarge!
Maybe the Kool Kats in uniform with hats on backwards in marked cars can handle the contact cards
I agree with al 100 percent. However how dumb could you be with a public statement like that first....
The insanity continues! Al says nothing, stands behind gary (deer in the headlights stare), now he wants us to jeopardize our family,future,pensions,freedom! Nope,Nada,noway Al, I'm not a chump, how could you even say something as pathetic as this? What are the duties of the first deputy? You draw a huge salary and for what?
Help officers out 376
Then why didn't someone speak up when he said it....
Spineless Bastards running this department!
Promotion based on skin color?
Isn't that a definition of racism
Cannot order you to break the law or violate someone's civil rights
Saying that you were ordered to is not a defense
Follow me men!
Charge!!!!
I'll be in my office.....
LMAO on this one
Serve and protect the shit out of you!!
blue lives matter
i only answer my job and assist officers
i only answer my job and assist officers
i only answer my job and assist officers
Can one go IOD for depression?
Anybody missing Jimmy Mauer yet?
OT but very interesting since this is from CNN
Opinion: Google is endangering cops
http://www.cnn.com//2015/04/23/opinions/clarke-thompson-google-waze-danger/index.html
Cornelia lots clout, yo! Nuff said
Whaaaaat?????
"if your old and you don't know how to use a computer proficiently then you are out of the loop. Don't tell us about how to do our jobs. We know what to do in this modern world."
4/25/2015 01:12:00 AM
I hope you know what to do when things flip back 50,000 years on you. Situation involves a guy with a sharp rock or heavy stick who's snarling at you and circling...
Or is there an "app" for that now?
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Crappy contract, uncertain pension, low moral, merit bosses with no experience, broken equipment, terrible union representation, city residency and liberal judges and politicians are a few reasons i only answer my job and assist officers. Have that boss put that suggestion in writing.
City residency was there when you took job.
Hmmm Ya know why non of this bothers me? Because I stopped giving a fuck about 12 years ago. There's more to life than this job.
Wysinger...
or why was she a singer???
Baltimore out of control, thugs attacking innocent people black on white crime, and we have this in the wings!
http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/25/us/possible-isis-inspired-threat/index.html
Isis yep they are here, thanks Obama open more Muslim centers, invite more illegals in you want a war in this country? This is ridiculous! You think the fake destructive protestors are bad! Wait till these real deal scumbag terrorist open up here, be ready back each other up no matter what, protect your family and protect the homeland!
(OT) Praying for brothers and sisters in Baltimore will obamas new black female go here and indict the thugs for black on white attacks?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/04/25/1000-black-baltimore-rioters-smash-police-cars-in-frenzied-protest/
I'm proud to say I've handed more than a couple of feebs traffic citations. I had to laugh because the driver and his partner were looking at the ticket as if it was a federal indictment of sorts. My rational was do you think for a second these pricks would cut you an inch of slack if you were under investigation for something? The answer is FUCK NO! THEY'DE GIVE YOU THE FULL CORN COB. These pricks think they are the Police.
"Following orders" is no longer an excuse for doing anything illegal."
It never was a valid excuse for following orders.
It didn't work for the Nazis at the war crimes trials in Nuremburg, Germany after WWII.
It didn't work at Mi Lai.
It sure as hell won't work for you on S. Dearborn St.
..and why is the FBI going along on a Missing Persons canvas??? What are they up to?
I LOVED being a Cop for 30 yrs....great Bosses who stood behind YOU...Even in those grey areas....So GLAD I'm retired for the last 4 yrs...Keep your CHINS UP you guys and girls....many of us are still behind you............
Hey! U either do what "Big Al" said or U are congregating at Dunkin Donuts like "a bunch of pussies."
U want "Big Al" even thinkin U is a pussy?
Didn't think so. Break the law and get the mother fucking CC like the boss say. Ain't no thang but a simple one. Prove U'r allegiance to the Organization
Anybody missing Jimmy Mauer yet?
4/25/2015 08:45:00 PM
Nope. Not one bit. You must be one of the ones that was constantly mooning over him and buying him drinks?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can one go IOD for depression?
4/25/2015 08:29:00 PM
Sure, you can! But kiss your FOID, your gun and your job goodbye.
I worked for Maurer,Great Motivator,Im glad I had that opportunity when I was on the Sat team.
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Anonymous said...
I once had two FBI agents tell me to kick in a door of a house in order to search the house for a missing person. I asked them on what authority would I do that? No probable cause here as this is just a neighborhood search. I told them if they thought this was so important they could kick in the door and search the house. They left. "Following orders" is no longer an excuse for doing anything illegal.
4/25/2015 09:48:00 AM
If it was your kid who was missing and it was important enough for the "G" to be involved in the search you would want me to kick-in the door and raise the house from it's foundation to search for your child. And I would do it, pussy.
(Near) Westside Sgt.
Hmmm Ya know why non of this bothers me? Because I stopped giving a fuck about 12 years ago. There's more to life than this job.
great comment! That's the best way to put things in perspective! Thanks!
Too much talking good grief. Just don't make the cards
29 years of watching police being sued and the City paying out. Absolutely nothing has changed !
How many Chicago police officers have lost their homes and pensions through none criminal acts?
The Deputy chief who never took a Lieutenants test told the sergeants in 1st District tact to name check and do a contact card in each person leaving the last project being knocked down on Cermak and State. If they didn't have any identification lock them up . When the lawsuits came down and the sergeant said something to him he replied " I never said that , you misunderstood me !"
The Deputy is now head of security at the CTA !!
File a complaint at the aclu
Given the fact that bosses are starting to out number p.o's I think the supervisors should go get some contact cards. Hey Gery when you came here the first thing you said is the dept. was too top heavy with brass and you wanted to change that, well now were more top heavy than ever before since you took over. What happened?
Anonymous said...
Promotion based on skin color?
Isn't that a definition of racism
4/25/2015 06:33:00 PM
Are you really that stupid?
Anonymous said...
Fuck You Boss...
Fuck You Very Much.
Wysinger is no better than the m/fers he wants us
to "keep putting hands on."
Don't worry about the lawsuits?
This here is 2015 you ignorant ass...
Not 1995 or even 1985.
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What about 2005 and 1975? Or even 1955? aka MCMLV
I had to attend accountability meetings under Phat Phil and BIFF because I was fortunate to have a "spot" for a short period of time.
I actually heard some douche bag Commander or Tact Lt. say "We're not afraid to break some eggs to make an omelet in the ___th district" at one of these shows.
I'm so glad I'm gone. Stay safe and take care of each other.
Crappy contract, uncertain pension, low moral, merit bosses with no experience, broken equipment, terrible union representation, city residency and liberal judges and politicians are a few reasons i only answer my job and assist officers. Have that boss put that suggestion in writing.
City residency was there when you took job.
ALL the complaints on the list were there when we took the job. How about coming up with a list that was not there when we took the job, Like understaffed and micro managed.
Yeah sure- I'd like to "put my hands on some people." Starting with the corner on the 5th floor. Oh Al, just keep looking out the window and STFU! Signed, LMAO Retired
Anonymous said...
Crappy contract, uncertain pension, low moral, merit bosses with no experience, broken equipment, terrible union representation, city residency and liberal judges and politicians are a few reasons i only answer my job and assist officers. Have that boss put that suggestion in writing.
City residency was there when you took job.
I think his point is the city is getting worse. Pension was there was when i took the job but now it's uncertain. Things change.
Anonymous said...
you can sue anyone for anything, as long as your stop is a terry stop you can write all the cc cards you want
4/25/2015 12:59:00 PM
You go right ahead and enjoy. Let us know how that turns out. Yes, you can be sued for anything but why set yourself up for it? Why risk your family's future for something stupid? No thanks.
Stop talking trash and give back the Lambert Tree medal, hack. It only adds further proof that you have no credibility with the rank and file.
Chicago Police Officers have been reduced to human trash collectors because of all the lawsuits they could face by showing their teeth to the wolf. The ACLU treats the wolf like an endangered species that needs constant protection from the sheepdog and the sheep. Think about how perverse and amoral our so-called society has evolved. The ACLU, all like them and all that support them provides a strong platform for the wolf to prosper in his evil ways. The entire Cook County Court System, Sheriff, County President and States Attorney as well as the highest ranking Law Enforcement Official in our state Lisa, are also complicit in aiding the wolf and the evil he dispenses at will. You can't blame any police officer today for acting like garbage men; you know how they just roll down the alley and collect the trash. The IRONIC thing here is the trash collector is paid more than the police officer, has a better pension than a police officer, and never has to worry about civil rights lawsuits. Maybe the new recruits should be required to spend 2 weeks in the academy on a garbage truck to learn how to do their jobs. Those 2 weeks of training just might save them from a lawsuit.
you can sue anyone for anything, as long as your stop is a terry stop you can write all the cc cards you want
>>>>>Great post, ^5 to you, Sir/Maam. Sadly, I suspect many reading this in today's age have no idea what you are speaking of.
To the Poster talking about Depression/IOD:
If your post wasn't in humor and had a note of truth to it, please speak to someone. ANYONE! I've buried too many friends who have done the unthinkable over this job. Almost too many to count. Permanent solution to a temporary problem. I wish you well my friend.
Anybody missing Jimmy Mauer yet?
4/25/2015 08:45:00 PM
Lol! NO! He tried to fire some coppers over ghetto bullshit in Cabrini incident few years ago. Lost all respect for him.
Tell ya what, I will match whatever you write!
Anonymous said...
I once had two FBI agents tell me to kick in a door of a house in order to search the house for a missing person. I asked them on what authority would I do that? No probable cause here as this is just a neighborhood search. I told them if they thought this was so important they could kick in the door and search the house. They left. "Following orders" is no longer an excuse for doing anything illegal.
4/25/2015 09:48:00 AM
If it was your kid who was missing and it was important enough for the "G" to be involved in the search you would want me to kick-in the door and raise the house from it's foundation to search for your child. And I would do it, pussy.
(Near) Westside Sgt.
4/26/2015 01:59:00 AM
Hey (Ignorant-Assed Near) Westside Sgt.
If it meant THAT much to the Feebs, THEY could've
kicked the fucking door down instead of trying to
jackpot a local cop.
It was bullshit because they put their hands in their pockets and walked away. The o/p was absolutely correct in telling those fed gumps to go scratch...
Or did the post irk you because you have a habit of ordering your subordinates to do the same legally shaky shit?
Run and hide much when your subordinate catch a beef on your ill-advised orders?
At least have the decency to buy a block of tickets to their benefit.
Supervisors like you are hated because your ilk has a problem with a copper looking to his own best interest and saying no to your unsound/questionable/unethical/ illegal orders.
So, you're ok with the Feebs in question doing what they did?
So it's not much of a stretch that if you were on scene, you would've taken disciplinary action against the officer for "disobeying" the Feebs who walked away after being called on their bullshit?
Promotion based on skin color?
Isn't that a definition of racism
4/25/2015 06:33:00 PM
No - When its done the way they do it it's called affirmative action.
If you or I did it it would be racism.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I agree with al 100 percent. However how dumb could you be with a public statement like that first....
4/25/2015 05:11:00 PM
You agree?
You're as big a prize winning "ignant-assed" fool as he is...
Al isn't smart enough to figure the biggest mark-ass m/fer sitting at the exempt table is HIM.
Funny...
Alfonza SWEARS he got to where he is because of his Police "ability."
When this shit unravels for good, see how this intellectually disinterested buffoon does under deposition when all his "help" has been taken
away.
Hey Al!
First one on the bus get's the best seat.
McCarthy has you smoked, son...
Anonymous said...
I once had two FBI agents tell me to kick in a door of a house in order to search the house for a missing person. I asked them on what authority would I do that? No probable cause here as this is just a neighborhood search. I told them if they thought this was so important they could kick in the door and search the house. They left. "Following orders" is no longer an excuse for doing anything illegal.
4/25/2015 09:48:00 AM
If it was your kid who was missing and it was important enough for the "G" to be involved in the search you would want me to kick-in the door and raise the house from it's foundation to search for your child. And I would do it, pussy.
(Near) Westside Sgt.
4/26/2015 01:59:00 AM
If he was a PO he did the right thing.
Call the Sgt. Let Sgt make the call, if Sgt says kick it down then down it comes, all is covered. But a Sgt has to make that call. Easy enough.
If it was your kid who was missing and it was important enough for the "G" to be involved in the search you would want me to kick-in the door and raise the house from it's foundation to search for your child. And I would do it, pussy.
(Near) Westside Sgt.
4/26/2015 01:59:00 AM
You called him a pussy, and you sound like a stupid ass! I guess you would kick the door in because a fed told you to do it. Only to become another stupid fuck in jail! I hope a fed never says "blow me" with you around!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I once had two FBI agents tell me to kick in a door of a house in order to search the house for a missing person. I asked them on what authority would I do that? No probable cause here as this is just a neighborhood search. I told them if they thought this was so important they could kick in the door and search the house. They left. "Following orders" is no longer an excuse for doing anything illegal.
4/25/2015 09:48:00 AM
If it was your kid who was missing and it was important enough for the "G" to be involved in the search you would want me to kick-in the door and raise the house from it's foundation to search for your child. And I would do it, pussy.
(Near) Westside Sgt.
4/26/2015 01:59:00 AM
Wow look out everyone a tough guy over here! Hey Sgt you sound like a douche bag and once the search turns up negative I can bet my VRI paycheck that you would leave them poor beat cops out to dry and claim that you didn't order them to do it. If you feel like a nice federal lawsuit I can send you my address, I wouldn't mind cashing in on some morons ineptitude as a supervisor to understand what he can and can't do.
011 2nd Watch DOG
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can one go IOD for depression?
4/25/2015 08:29:00 PM
Sure, you can! But kiss your FOID, your gun and your job goodbye.
4/26/2015 12:33:00 AM
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Talk to Dr Rob Sobo at Employee Assistance or Dennis Adams. There is a way around it I cannot publicize here. Get help, in any case, at any cost, but I can assure you I have helped in such cases, and there's more than one way to skin a cat. Call them please!
Anonymous said...
The Deputy chief who never took a Lieutenants test told the sergeants in 1st District tact to name check and do a contact card in each person leaving the last project being knocked down on Cermak and State. If they didn't have any identification lock them up . When the lawsuits came down and the sergeant said something to him he replied " I never said that , you misunderstood me !"
The Deputy is now head of security at the CTA !!
4/26/2015 05:57:00 AM
Exactly. This is how they operate. The guys with time know this but they count on the young ones who don't. use your head. Ask yourself "will this boss go on record for me if I'm jammed?" Easy answer. HELL NO!
Listen kids over 75% of the current command staff , including captains were merit set or lt , some both .
Now you know why cod is screwed up .
Hey!
Where's that "You Guys Are A Bunch of Pussies. Being Sued Ain't Shit. I 've Been Sued X Times and I'm Still Putting Dude on The Wall and Gettin' in His Pockets" tough guy at?
Anybody missing Jimmy Mauer yet?
4/25/2015 08:45:00 PM
Steve Georgas does. He misses walking General Patton "Mauer" wanna be's dog. Sorry Steve you thought we forgot. There's still some old timers around that know what a punk and ass kisser you were. You and your brother couldn't catch a crook at 26th and Cal. Now go get your shine box.
Can one go IOD for depression?
4/25/2015 08:29:00 PM
Sure, you can! But kiss your FOID, your gun and your job goodbye.
4/26/2015 12:33:00 AM
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Talk to Dr Rob Sobo at Employee Assistance or Dennis Adams. There is a way around it I cannot publicize here. Get help, in any case, at any cost, but I can assure you I have helped in such cases, and there's more than one way to skin a cat. Call them please.
The poster above is on the money. Please get help officer for your depression. You will be fine and following good people at EAP.
You got more friends that care then you know going through a chemical inbalance. Just remember there is help out there and hope too.
God bless you and the good man who posted were to go for help.
This blog is a gift to members of LE who allows to post very inportent things like issues of coppers and depression. God bless you SCC.
4/26/2015 01:59:00 AM
Wow look out everyone a tough guy over here! Hey Sgt you sound like a douche bag and once the search turns up negative I can bet my VRI paycheck that you would leave them poor beat cops out to dry and claim that you didn't order them to do it. If you feel like a nice federal lawsuit I can send you my address, I wouldn't mind cashing in on some morons ineptitude as a supervisor to understand what he can and can't do.
011 2nd Watch DOG
4/26/2015 07:14:00 PM
I realize the sharpest knives in the drawer don't get dumped to 011; however, I always considered the coppers who work there as having brass balls. Maybe I was wrong.
4/26/2015 01:59:00 AM
If he was a PO he did the right thing.
Call the Sgt. Let Sgt make the call, if Sgt says kick it down then down it comes, all is covered. But a Sgt has to make that call. Easy enough.
4/26/2015 06:37:00 PM
Yes, yes you dumbshit, I have no problem making that call and taking a whole whopping hour to provide a damage claims form to the owners . And maybe I'll find your kid.
>>>Anonymous said...
Given the fact that bosses are starting to out number p.o's I think the supervisors should go get some contact cards. Hey Gery when you came here the first thing you said is the dept. was too top heavy with brass and you wanted to change that, well now were more top heavy than ever before since you took over. What happened?
4/26/2015 07:56:00 AM<<<
McNumbnuts overpromoted young clout driven and minorities way over their heads and gutted all the mid level supervisors. No more Captains as Watch Commanders that had close ties to their troops. No Field Lieutenants who tried to keep all the pieces together. Few Sergeants and they are overworked with petty details and can do little real leadership.
It's a sad thing that the troops can no longer talk to a gray haired boss who earned the promotions and would listen and steer them in the right direction. I am glad to have worked through a career where I had a lot of bosses like that.
Anonymous said...
Anybody missing Jimmy Mauer yet?
4/25/2015 08:45:00 PM
Steve Georgas does. He misses walking General Patton "Mauer" wanna be's dog. Sorry Steve you thought we forgot. There's still some old timers around that know what a punk and ass kisser you were. You and your brother couldn't catch a crook at 26th and Cal. Now go get your shine box.
4/26/2015 09:40:00 PM
Couldn't have said it better myself!
Can one go IOD for depression?
4/25/2015 08:29:00 PM
Sure, you can! But kiss your FOID, your gun and your job goodbye.
4/26/2015 12:33:00 AM
************
Talk to Dr Rob Sobo at Employee Assistance or Dennis Adams. There is a way around it I cannot publicize here. Get help, in any case, at any cost, but I can assure you I have helped in such cases, and there's more than one way to skin a cat. Call them please.
The poster above is on the money. Please get help officer for your depression. You will be fine and following good people at EAP.
^^^^X2
We had someone in our unit go about it the wrong way - not thru EAP. I'll bet if you asked, this individual would tell you use EAP
Steve Georgas does. He misses walking General Patton "Mauer" wanna be's dog. Sorry Steve you thought we forgot. There's still some old timers around that know what a punk and ass kisser you were. You and your brother couldn't catch a crook at 26th and Cal. Now go get your shine box.
4/26/2015 09:40:00 PM
Hi shine box is under his Deputy Chief's desk. Where is yours, in your patrolman's locker?
You were right about Mauer, though. He was a tool.
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