Saturday, May 14, 2016

"Ferguson Effect" in Full Bloom

From our e-mail, an article by Jack Dunphy:
  • We turn our attention now to the city of Chicago, where both Northsiders and Southsiders are reveling to see that their respective baseball teams, the Cubs and the White Sox, are comfortably in first place. Yes, it’s only May, but in Chicago one must revel when one can. And when Chicagoans check their morning newspapers to see how their teams fared the previous evening – the batting averages, the home runs, the strikeouts, and all the rest – there is another set of statistics they consult, one that appears as regularly as the box scores but calls for no celebration: They look to see how many people in Chicago were shot overnight.

    And they most often find the answer is quite a few, as reflected in this May 7 story from the Chicago Tribune. “A 58-year-old man was pronounced dead,” the story begins, “after a bullet ripped through a front door of his home and struck him in the head as he was eating dinner. The man was one of five people shot Saturday, police said.” The story was posted to the paper’s website at 9:55 p.m., Central Time, which left more than two hours of prime crime time for Saturday’s total to run even higher. But if the number of shooting victims held at five with only one of them killed, Chicagoans would label the day a modest success. So far this year the city has averaged more than nine people shot and 1.5 homicide victims per day
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  • Last year FBI Director James Comey took heavy incoming fire over his remark that a “chill wind” was blowing through law enforcement in the aftermath of Ferguson, Baltimore, and the growth of the Black Lives Matter movement. Yesterday, he doubled down:

    The director of the F.B.I. reignited the factious debate over a so-called “Ferguson effect” on Wednesday, saying that he believed less aggressive policing was driving an alarming spike in murders in many cities.

    James Comey, the director, said that while he could offer no statistical proof, he believed after speaking with a number of police officials that a “viral video effect” — with officers wary of confronting suspects for fear of ending up on a video — “could well be at the heart” of a spike in violent crime in some cities.

    “There’s a perception that police are less likely to do the marginal additional policing that suppresses crime — the getting out of your car at 2 in the morning and saying to a group of guys, ‘Hey, what are you doing here?’” he told reporters.

    While Comey may not have offered statistical proof, there’s ample evidence from Chicago — for example — that reduced arrests, stops, and gun seizures correlate with a dramatic increase in murders.
"dramatic increase" might be an understatement.

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52 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The mayor and his supe should have sided with JVD instead of a drug fueled, violent, armed menace to society. How did caving in to a small group of people who don't think they have to obey the law work out you? Anita, gone. Garry, gone. Chicago,...

5/14/2016 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone thinks this year is bad regarding the violence, wait till next year, after a year of reduced stops and the POS fully realize that vehicular and pedestrian stops are not returning to pre-2015 levels. No stops = criminals being emboldened. Liberals and community organizers don't like the idea of 'stop and frisk'. The communities will reap the rewards with even more violence after listening to the liberals and community organizers demand that 'stop and frisk' cease.

Instead of 'Serve and Protect' on the side of Department vehicles, the motto should be replaced with ' Miss Aggressive Police Work Yet'.

5/14/2016 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This town, with its illustrious officials, does not want to stop murder and mayhem. If so, they would have deflected the massive crime and criminals by now. No amount of prodding or publicity has been heeded. So we can only bet they have reasons for this. Votes. They'll take 'em anyway they can. The rest of us are pawns to be dealt with as they wish.

5/14/2016 12:44:00 AM  
Blogger Happily Retired said...

Harsh as it may sound, I'd rather leave them to killing each other than to see a copper hung out to dry or surrounded by a hoard of thugs and born-indignant bystanders goading, harassing, filming, antagonizing, destroying, etc..

5/14/2016 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its as plain as the nose on your face. Crime and murders will continue to rise as we continue to handcuff law enforcement.

5/14/2016 01:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FBI don't know shit about beat cop work. The problems are; not enough police, going call to call and not enough time to handle the problems, early release from jail, relaxed drug laws, elected officials bashing law enforcement, judges giving light prison time, people not getting involved, no jobs, bad economy, entitlement age, and many other social problems.

It's not the policing. We are doing a hell of a job catching the bad people. But it's like a catch and release system. Very little on the justice end. Especially in Cook County.

5/14/2016 02:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep ain't doing shit.... How many times do we gotta say it and how many articles have to be written they don't want the police so they won't get the police... Good luck

5/14/2016 02:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's the over under on the city breaking the magic 500 homicided for the year.I might want a piece of that depending on the odds

5/14/2016 05:42:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

I'm surprised Obama didn't fire Comey for speaking the truth.

5/14/2016 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who says you cant teach a old dog new tricks ? STAY FETAL , ITS WORKING BOYS AND GIRLS.Go home not indited by these Fuckin Assholes, They think their so smart, Will show em . they wanted us out of THEIR neighborhoods, You got it Jagoffs, Be careful what you wish for BLM

Stay Fetal Brothers and
Sisters, Its working !

5/14/2016 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said and sad.. And did you hear he DOJ will soon not be using the terms 'felon' and 'convict?' Google it and find a FOX NEWS report. Stay safe and be well.

5/14/2016 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Comey, what is your reasonable articulable suspicion for getting out of your car to approach the people on the corner?

5/14/2016 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Researcher from the St. Louis area has reversed his decision and now finds there appears to be a Ferguson effect.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/13/ferguson-effect-real-researcher-richard-rosenfield-second-thoughts?CMP=share_btn_tw

5/14/2016 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And now Obama to move the Section 8 to nice neighborhood?

http://nypost.com/2016/05/08/obamas-last-act-is-to-force-suburbs-to-be-less-white-and-less-wealthy/

5/14/2016 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bloody Chicago and racism agree with some not all he calls for more police national guard rahms a failure along with Bruce:

http://www.billoreilly.com/b/Bloody-Chicago-and-Racism-on-Display/52295785518620336.html

5/14/2016 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sheriff Clark nailed it..............
http://my.xfinity.com/video/has-a-viral-video-effect-really-made-police-hesitant/685512259889/Comcast/fanNews_newest?cid=hero_sf_garden

5/14/2016 08:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the liberal made the animal, though they will never admit it. The gave them free shit for generations, they entertained lower expectations of them ... that... over generations, will kill a people.

They've catered to the unproductive bustout and gutted our finest institutions. Congratulations. Their experimental "progressiveness" has never been proven to work ... anywhere at anytime.

See .. liberals ... what you've done. Time to man up and OWN IT.

5/14/2016 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then talk to the ACLU and the rest of the communist assholes that wanted this. Go fuck yourselves, and enjoy what the Black Lies Matters crew just gave the United States.

5/14/2016 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wind chill?? More like a hurricane of fetalness in law enforcement.

5/14/2016 09:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To bad Obama disagrees with the director of the F.B.I., James Comey. After all Obama was a professor at University of Chicago. And we all know the University of Chicago produces some of the greatest political liberal minds.

5/14/2016 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Pigpen said...

No S#%t..

5/14/2016 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should have heard Bill O'Reilly last night on his Talking Points on the Homicides and Shootings in SCHLICAGO....I must say it was pretty spot on and powerful, Although he was a little off base, I'm sure the rest of the country got a pretty good idea how Phuqed up this city is......Be Safe my Brothers and Sisters......

5/14/2016 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take note all officers who still want to go out an lock everyone up. In Baltimore 1 of the officers in the Freddy Gray case was charged with ASSAULT. It was charged that the Officer DID NOT have authority to detain Gray after a foot chase, so therefore the Officer committed ASSAULT BY PUTTING HANDCUFFS ON HIM.
This Officers, came right from their S/A's office. Don't be surprised if we're next.
All the officers who still think they can go out and clear the streets because the Boss wants you too, WAKE UP.

5/14/2016 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm denies it, but when you have the FBI director not any face of the FBI but the director saying this, like the feds or not this guy is 110% spot on! After what was done starting in Ferguson, to Baltimore,to New York, and of course Chicago do to elected empty heads pandering to the criminals of these cities! The non-producing welfare lazy thugs are being recognized and it's insanity if your doing any real police work. We lose job-freedom-family-bank account-pension-health insurance-home-vehicles and they lose NOTHING! The weather will be hotter little rain long range forecast:
http://www.accuweather.com/en/us/chicago-il/60608/july-weather/348308

Protect Blue, Protect blue families what lives matter? Blue Lives matter!
If your working with a partner that is aggressive please keep her/him in check no more lost wages, lost freedom, being the next media 24/7 darling as your being forensically investigated!

5/14/2016 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then you read today's Chicago sun propaganda newspaper and on page 10 George cardenas alderman helping another over 2 million to be taken from Chicago taxpayers given to another criminal family from 10 year old case officers were cleared case closed but now will this open up coppers to be a party to this travesty use of taxpayer money? Is George getting a "tribute" from huge cash payout? Ridiculous and pathetic!

5/14/2016 10:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In order for this city to rise up from the ashes it first has to burn to the ground kind of like Detroit. The lawless thug assholes of "the community" have to go on a giant wilding tour for a few years of burning, pillaging, raping and killing after which law and order will be restored.

5/14/2016 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At a recent press conference by Obama's press secretary Josh Earnest basically said there is no proof of the Ferguson effect. Are you going to believe him and the White House spinners or your own lying eyes?

http://www.newsroomamerica.com/story/571774/press_briefing_by_press_secretary_josh_earnest_5122016.html

5/14/2016 11:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is true, but only to a point...the police are not the ones shooting the average daily total of 9 shot/1.5 dead. So the real problem is not, and never has been, the police being active or staying fetal. The problem is the black and brown communities in large Democratic run urban environments. Why these pussies won't point the finger at the people committing the crimes and causing the deaths is another fatality caused by political correctness.

5/14/2016 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...police are less likely to do the marginal additional policing that suppresses crime..."

"Marginal?" That used to be called "patrol."

5/14/2016 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least Comey had the balls to put the blame where it belongs- on the BLM and Ferguson effect. Where's the Supe of Chicago on this? The Rahm-hole? Jesse? Al "I ain't payin' no taxes"? Barrack? Holder? Crickets only...

5/14/2016 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There will be no fix in law enforcement until the public realizes that the Black Lives Matter movement is a sham, created by a criminal to promote his own violent agenda against the police. All I can say is burn baby burn liberal America deserves this Stay Fetal

5/14/2016 01:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Richard said...

Anonymous said...

And now Obama to move the Section 8 to nice neighborhood?

http://nypost.com/2016/05/08/obamas-last-act-is-to-force-suburbs-to-be-less-white-and-less-wealthy/

5/14/2016 07:53:00 AM

Just read it, un-fucking believable. Why work hard to stay away from these people? Theey are going to send them to ruin anything you have accomplished. Fuck Obummer, Hillary and Castro, and of course you too Rahm.
Demoncrats...working hard to ruin your life.

5/14/2016 01:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stay fetal!

5/14/2016 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

POS Bill Reilly has many comments about "racist Chicago." His number 1 question is why aren't the police flooding high crime areas with more police. Must be tough seeing stuf from that Ivory Tower. And of course, when a blonde tries to explain why, he outshouts her, typical of the bully bully.

5/14/2016 01:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHA - 'marginal additional policing that suppresses crime'? Asking a group of men loitering at 2AM? Isn't that called 'excessive racial targeting' by some? Who would want to act in a way that endangers their own future?! Maybe they are just comparing their homework?

5/14/2016 04:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hello Leo and Nick time for troopers on massive overtime now shooting on Stevenson second in a week other 1 guy shot up:
http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/crime/141200653-story

Bruce invest 100 million plus is taxpayers dollars here like the ghetto in Chicago gets trooper vri!

5/14/2016 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And amid all this carnage we are told that the trouble in Chicago is not that people shoot each other with such casual alacrity and alarming frequency. No, they say, the trouble in Chicago is that the police officers aren’t nice enough."
WHAT? If you want 'nice' call your mother.

5/14/2016 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
At a recent press conference by Obama's press secretary Josh Earnest basically said there is no proof of the Ferguson effect. Are you going to believe him and the White House spinners or your own lying eyes?

http://www.newsroomamerica.com/story/571774/press_briefing_by_press_secretary_josh_earnest_5122016.html

5/14/2016 11:11:00 AM

Rahm frequently says he's working on properly funding our pensions too..... .
Both Rahm and Obama are pissing on our heads and expecting us to believe it's raining.

5/14/2016 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nuffin to see here! This is all a decrease in the increase. My baby didn't do nuffin, he was a good boy, just turning his life around, dem cops shot him for nuffin!

After listening to this for, ummm, decades. And having a fool in the White House that fans the flames of this idiocy, what do you think the cops are going to do?

The smart ones will "do nuffin" just like the community claims their members were doing all these years...

Remember the ancient curse: "Be careful what you wish for. You may just get it." - well, "the community" wished for no cops, no interference in street justice - they got it. Now they're all gonna whine about "no cops" and an increase in crime?

Geezus people - make up your minds... You can't have both.

5/14/2016 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The people are getting the police departments they deserve. The citizens of this country have allowed Progressive Liberal Democrats to destroy law enforcement in this country. Better purchase that gun you need after getting your FOID card. Take a Conceal/Carry class and be ready to protect yourself and your loved ones. We are all on our own now.

5/14/2016 08:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

IPRA has lost credibility in chicago.

Well Rham has lost credibility with Chicago citizens.

5/14/2016 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Noted retired NYPD detective Bo Dietel has explained yesterday how Mayor Deblasio is using phony Comstat numbers to sell the lie that all is good, and crime is down.

5/14/2016 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing new. Daley demolished the projects and handed them vouchers to get out of Chicago and move to the south suburbs.

5/14/2016 10:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I patrol the streets of Chicago
I assist officers , respond to radio assignments
Other than that I stay fetal
No ov for me
Stay fetal , stay out of trouble

5/14/2016 11:31:00 PM  
Blogger Knutes Niche said...

While Bill is several years older than me, both of us experienced the privilege of being raised and nurtured in extremely peaceful Nassau County communities by responsible, loving parents who placed the emotional well-being of their developing children ABOVE ALL ELSE!!!

Sadly, during the 80s-90s when I was a Brooklyn, NY cop, robbery and murder investigator I learned a significant number of American children are being irresponsibly raised, nurtured and socialized by SELFISH, immature, apathetic MATERNAL CAREGIVERS failing to realize that placing ABOVE ALL ELSE the EMOTIONAL WELL BEING of their child(ren) will most likely result with a fairly or wonderfully happy child maturing into a reasonably responsible teen and adult respecting themselves and their peaceful neighbors.

In my opinion, saturating a community with police is not going to address the core issue for why far too many of my neighbors of African descent are angry, depressed, frustrated, filled with rage and resentment for irresponsibly being introduced to a childhood fraught with pain, struggle, fear, hardships, demeaning government handouts, anxiety and uncertainty.

Does the late Tupac Shakur, a popular American recording artist and victim of *Childhood Trauma, Abuse & Neglect*, offer a reasonable explanation for why significant numbers of American children are being impeded from maturing into reasonably responsible, well-adjusted American teens and adults who become scientists, engineers, business owners, educators and leaders?

*Tupac Addresses African American Child Abuse/Neglect*

continued...

https://medium.com/@AveryJarhman/bill-oreilly-bloody-chicago-racism-policing-6dfc9c1e85c

Peace.

Tagged: Jamyla Bolden, Tyshawn Lee, Julie Dombo

#MentalHealth #MentalIllness #MaternalResponsibility

5/14/2016 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nonymous said...
Nothing new. Daley demolished the projects and handed them vouchers to get out of Chicago and move to the south suburbs.

5/14/2016 10:08:00 PM

a whole bunch of former Chicago folks with vouchers have appeared in Iowa raising the disturbance rate there a lot.

5/15/2016 06:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leave it to the FBI to state the obvious

5/15/2016 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Where is the National Guard?"
What would they do?Hand out napkins?

"Where is a flood of police officers patrolling on foot 24/7 in these violent neighborhoods?"
A disparate outcome lawsuit in the making.


5/15/2016 09:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I patrol the streets of Chicago
I assist officers , respond to radio assignments
Other than that I stay fetal
No ov for me
Stay fetal , stay out of trouble

5/14/2016 11:31:00 PM

Do same thing, but make sure take time for:
*Fuel
*Car wash
* R-Man to repair anything have to be sure car is in great shape
*Lunch and travel time
* 2 personals minimum
*Bus check (activity yes boss?)
*Write all the paper reports they want
* arrest on signed complaints only other wise no way no how
* say hello to sergeant
* plug in new dvd player some great movies out
* drive around and watch the circus clowns, wave to all the nice people that are yelling "police police over here" some very nice people waving obviously police supporting taxpayers!
* work vri for this bring a nice cooler and pillow! Goodnight Gracie!

5/15/2016 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Researcher from the St. Louis area has reversed his decision and now finds there appears to be a Ferguson effect.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/13/ferguson-effect-real-researcher-richard-rosenfield-second-thoughts?CMP=share_btn_tw

5/14/2016 07:51:00 AM

I don't know about anyone else but I don't need anyone from academia telling me whether the Ferguson effect is real. I know for a fact it is real and anyone trying to say otherwise is a lying fool.

5/15/2016 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gang hits on Illinois expressways remain unsolved .
New shooting gallery I55&I94
Hope no innocent bystanders get hit .
Do those murders count in Chicago
I don't think so .
You have to love police reporting , killing crime
It's the Chicago way

5/15/2016 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HEY RAHM you cheap prick quit buying Rauner 2,000 dollar bottles of wine you share in his Montana Ranch and hire some police. YOU are destroying everything this city has built for the last 3 decades before your sorry ass came to power, Fuck you and you hair brain ideas WORST MOST CORRUPT MAYOR EVER

5/15/2016 09:13:00 PM  

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