Weekend Numbers Only Average
- To try to curb violence over Labor Day weekend, Chicago Police have arrested 77 people and recovered 11 guns and more than $65,000 worth of illegal drugs on the West Side, police said Saturday night at a news conference.
Of those 77 arrested Thursday and Friday, 63 were listed on the department’s Strategic Subject List, a way to measure “the propensity to be a victim or offender in violence,” First Deputy Supt. John Escalante said.
What’s more, 57 of those arrested were convicted felons, 45 were documented gang members, 10 were on parole and 17 had prior weapons offenses. Police said nine of the people arrested were deemed nonviolent drug offenders and placed in their diversion program, which is designed to give them addiction counseling and divert them from jail.
Nobody was charged with violent offenses, but “a lot of the violence in the 11th district does center around narcotics,” Escalante said. More than 100 grams of heroin, 75 grams of cocaine and more than 1,200 grams of cannabis and 78 grams of other drugs made up the $65,000 worth of narcotics recovered.
You'll recall, they did the same thing before the 4th of July when they took 88 known assholes off the street along with assorted guns and drugs. This time, they arrested 77 jagoffs right before the weekend, meaning they were either unable to make bail, violated, disappeared into the Homan Square Black Site or other means of keeping them occupied. It's a stop-gap measure that works, but only short term.
Now imagine everyone's surprise when criminals are actually sentenced (and serve) their entire sentences. They don't get to gun-up and murder other thugs when they're in prison! And they don't become victims of other thugs. And the more thugs you put in prison for lengthier sentences, the less chance they're offenders or victims! We've conducted extensive study of the subject and our findings are provable under all scientific conditions.
And here's a bone to throw to the CompStat kool-aid drinkers - if the criminals do manage to become victims or offenders while in Menard or Pontiac or anywhere in the IDOC, the crime doesn't count against Chicago's numbers. You don't even have to fudge the classifications. Win-win.
Now imagine everyone's surprise when criminals are actually sentenced (and serve) their entire sentences. They don't get to gun-up and murder other thugs when they're in prison! And they don't become victims of other thugs. And the more thugs you put in prison for lengthier sentences, the less chance they're offenders or victims! We've conducted extensive study of the subject and our findings are provable under all scientific conditions.
And here's a bone to throw to the CompStat kool-aid drinkers - if the criminals do manage to become victims or offenders while in Menard or Pontiac or anywhere in the IDOC, the crime doesn't count against Chicago's numbers. You don't even have to fudge the classifications. Win-win.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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This should also show the department that VRI doesn't work. VRI guys who are working don't do anything. Instead they cancelled every tac,gang and sat team. Those guys are the younger guys who still are working and they get cancelled and continue to work. You get a ton of people who still work and crime will stay lower. Put 500 guys bringing in zeros on vri and you have 15 dead and 70 shot. This proves that VRI does nothin. And the department needs to hire a ton of people. When they get the numbers those younger officers will go out and work. I'm done working. I've got 27 on and on cruise control. I don't envy or hate workers. God bless them just be careful. But if you flood the ghetto with workers then of course crime goes down. You want crime to stay down then get young aggressive coppers out there. Hire 2500 young kids and get them in the fast districts then you will see crime drastically drop. You need a disconnect from the current mopes in this job who do nothing but hide and 1st and 16thz. They are useless and can do nothing for crime in this city. This was just shown this weekend.
I'm saying that all the arrests prior to July 4th created a power vacuum if you will. Spots run by those arrested were now up for grabs. "Security" and "enforcers" that were keeping other thugs at bay got locked up so the ones left on streets took advantage and went hunting. Just like in the jungle... when the top dogs are out of the way... the rest kill each other for the top spots. September will hit 70+. Enjoy the show.
Now imagine everyone's surprise when criminals are actually sentenced (and serve) their entire sentences. They don't get to gun-up and murder other thugs when they're in prison! And they don't become victims of other thugs. And the more thugs you put in prison for lengthier sentences, the less chance they're offenders or victims! We've conducted extensive study of the subject and our findings are provable under all scientific conditions.
Ummm, they do get to murder other thugs when in prison - but who cares? They might come up with some kind of firearm or projectile launcher - but so long as it's not a Correctional Ofc, again, who cares?
They do become victims of other thugs: Who cares though? That ought to be a deterrent against doing shit that puts you in prison in the first place.
The more thugs you put in prison, the less law-abiding people are victims. That's all that matters... Fuck the jagoff thugs...
Many that go into Homan Square never come out, and are never heard from again. They just disappear.
"disappeared into the Homan Square Black Site" Oh, you got jokes SCC. hahahaha.
"Now imagine everyone's surprise when criminals are actually sentenced (and serve) their entire sentences. They don't get to gun-up and murder other thugs when they're in prison! And they don't become victims of other thugs. And the more thugs you put in prison for lengthier sentences, the less chance they're offenders or victims! We've conducted extensive study of the subject and our findings are provable under all scientific conditions."
Try telling this to Fox-Butterfield and the New York Times. They still don't get it.
Only Three dead and twenty eight shot through Sunday?
No one killed on a Labor Day Weekend Saturday?
Maybe, just maybe it worked?
Now go lock them up for ten to twenty years!
Stop the catch and release,
,” First Deputy Supt. John Escalante said. "
Is he still here?
YES!!! Criminals are safer in prison than on the streets of Chicago.
And the citizens are for damned sure safer in their neighborhoods!
The States Attorneys and the Judges need to do their jobs.
WTF, Mr. Six is still around, two 1st. deputies ? Seen him on TV, good grief, he looks like the homeless guys with the cup working the off ramp of the Kennedy at Armitage. He has to drain that last dime from the city, Can't make ends meet with the 150 K pension, wife' CPD salary, and now that b.s job at that make believe university with 9 sworn under him, LOL. The spot he got is a step higher then being head of security for the old flop houses on old Madison Street 012 in the 1960'. This is so ass old already. Mr Merit-Six. Shame on you.
SCC - Some PO's who work/live in 017 are wondering if Mr. 6 will order his platoon of NorthEastern IL University PD to refrain from rolling on All Call radio messages. Suburban PD's like Lincolnwood, Niles, Park Ridge, Skokie have been known to pop up in both 16 & 17th Districts on in progress calls, knowing that the staffing levels are atrocious. Towns like Skokie are running shifts with more manpower than 016.
Will De-Escalante live up to his moniker and bury his head in the sand while ordering his eager staff to lay low and shake doorknobs? Or will he help protect the residents who pay high taxes, love the police, and are getting sparse protection? And Mr. 6 is also one of those residents - so maybe he will become a man and allow his PD to assist on hot calls.
Retired .38 spl + P
"the department’s Strategic Subject List"
Should it be refereed to as the "Minority Report since to looking at future crime victims/offenders. Yea, there maybe other reasons for the name change too just can't put my finger on what it might be.
Eventually, there will be problems with the CPD keeping a list, and then targeting those on the list for arrest. Eventually, the ACLU will demand how an individual becomes part of the list, how a person becomes targeted for arrest, or most importantly in their eyes, how a person is removed from the list. Without any of these questions addressed, the CPD will be sued, and we will all lose
Targeted EDGE mission, completely unconstitutional. Arresting officers will be listing assets shortly.
Ok so the numbers are average. Hows that working out. Same amount of shootings but less murders. Last time a checked special ed doesnt control who lives or dies when they get shot. Sooooo at the end of the day. All the arrests and guns described above didnt do shit. Whether you live or die is all luck when ur shot. So the shit they did didnt change anything. The same amount of people got shot. End of story.
SCC, how did you miss The Real Queen Sister going off on White Mike?
Scroll down on the link to find Fr. Faker running away from questions about the money which has gone through Sr. Sabina and his security team pushing around a woman with a camera:
https://www.facebook.com/TheRealQueenSister?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
Check out Fr. Faker's jersey too!
It is amazing the lengths the department will go to for a favorable headline.
Why don't they do this once a week or monthly?
So 57 of the 77 were on the "List"? What a coincidence; sounds like Racial "Targeting". Now how many on the list are "People of Color"? Are there even any White Folk, or Peoples on that List? Sounds like the 'List" is going to be part of Discovery in a trial, and once again the City stepped into some real shit. Any Defense Counsel including the Public Defender will seize the City bragging about the 57 of the 77, as a clear and obvious targeting of certain citizens of Color by the police, Gestapo Tactics as used against Jews by the Nazis. BLM and George Soros, pay attention! The whole List may now be subject to review. So is this how Predictive Policing works; Racial Targeting of certain individuals? Are there any People of Color or "Colored People" in that Unit? Or just White Wannabe Tough Guys waiting to get promoted? Stay Fetal, Stay Fetal Baby"G"
Isn't this racial profiling???
Where's BLM and all the rest of the reverunds???
It sort of scares me that the Department isn't smart enough to realize that removing some of these shitheads from the street creates a power vacuum which leaves behind more neer do wells to take up the slack, ie... the guns on the street.
And enquiring minds want to know who are the officers doing all this proactive work? Do we still have these kinds of officers? Will the city and brass back them up when things go wrong, as is bound to happen?
So lets keep this "Texas" style round-up going, lasso them all but keep them in prison. Maybe since Trump has respect from Russian President Putin we could ship our animal savage thugs to his prisons real prisons the gulags bet these pos would never want to go back. Why not? Enough of this total bullshit coddling them like Tommy coward dart does, Tommy gives them a pizza oven, lets them make gourmet meals (We the taxpayers pay for this expensive food), bet Putin's jail guards don't get hit by prisoners and get beaten, if that happened bet in solitary with great ass beating and they are cured no more problems!
How many peoples civil rights were violated by all this preemptive stuff?
Nobody @ CPD got the WH Memo...obama let go drug dillers because it ain't no vilent crime.
Another Catch and Release Goverment Program.
Lemmings falling for the media event with a aggressive mass arrest stunt, willing to be led over the cliff by the bosses when the shit hits the fan.
I guess that's why there are a few specialized units to bolster the image of incompetent merit hacks.
Rather be Stay Fetal and Lovin' It.
To the 27 on cruise control, go fuck yourself, look at the pot calling the kettle black. You probably have been useless when u had 17 years on, waiting for your two paychecks a month too. But now is not the time to be aggressive, those young kids will get jammed up with the current climate. So don't tell them to work when you know it's not worth it. Go retire finally and and talk your Bulls hit somewhere else.
Wait a minute, our President is releasing people from federal custody who have either life or long sentences due to drug offenses. He saying they are not violent offenders, but now a high ranking police official is saying drugs are tied to violence. Who could believe drugs and violence are tied together, I mean the cartels and street gangs selling drugs have never committed violent acts in order to further their trade. So it makes perfect sense for Obama to release them. I'm sure once they are released they will be forever grateful for hi$ help will continue to thank him in the future with $miles on their face$. The Chicago Way.
agree VRI is a waste of money. do not agree canceling tac/gang/sat is the magic answer. stop all this bs overtime- put sat and gangs in a tue/wed or wed/thurs day off group.
"Nobody was charged with violent offenses, but “a lot of the violence in the 11th district does center around narcotics,” Escalante said. More than 100 grams of heroin, 75 grams of cocaine and more than 1,200 grams of cannabis and 78 grams of other drugs made up the $65,000 worth of narcotics recovered."
Why don't they just say a Quarter Pound of Heroin and Over 2 and a Half Pounds of Cannabis and over 2 and a half ounces of coke?
Grams make my head hurt.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC, how did you miss The Real Queen Sister going off on White Mike?
Scroll down on the link to find Fr. Faker running away from questions about the money which has gone through Sr. Sabina and his security team pushing around a woman with a camera:
https://www.facebook.com/TheRealQueenSister?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
Check out Fr. Faker's jersey too!
9/05/2016 07:56:00 AM
It's nice to know everybody isn't fooled by the Fake Father's act.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Many that go into Homan Square never come out, and are never heard from again. They just disappear.
9/05/2016 12:50:00 AM
Thousands of them, according to the tabloids. smh
No one died on Saturday?
No one died?
Call the Bishop! It is a Miracle!!!
...
Many that go into Homan Square never come out, and are never heard from again. They just disappear.
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Especially those that work At Homan square. They leave the district and get a job there and they disappear for the next 20 years... Creepy
Never underestimate the ability of the gang bangers in Chicago to put up the numbers. Like an Olympic runner, they jogged through the weekend and then finished strong on Monday. That is the type of Chicago spirit that Rahm is a proud of. WE'RE NUMBER 1!!!!
"""Nobody was charged with violent offenses, but “a lot of the violence in the 11th district does center around narcotics,” Escalante said. More than 100 grams of heroin, 75 grams of cocaine and more than 1,200 grams of cannabis and 78 grams of other drugs made up the $65,000 worth of narcotics recovered."
Why don't they just say a Quarter Pound of Heroin and Over 2 and a Half Pounds of Cannabis and over 2 and a half ounces of coke?""
Christ! a 15yo can sell that in an afternoon on the corner.
(OT) democrats destroying this country look at this:
Take a look at how much we need Trump
Obama defends anti-American krapernick
http://nypost.com/2016/09/05/obama-defends-kaepernicks-national-anthem-protest/
Then we have sick lying Hillary major coughing fit says it's a Trump allergy:
http://nypost.com/2016/09/05/hillary-blames-coughing-fit-on-trump-allergy-at-rally/
Then we have China official putting Obama in his place:
http://nypost.com/2016/09/03/this-is-our-country-tempers-flare-as-obama-arrives-in-china/
Lastly we have Philippines president telling Obama stay out of our business as he destroys drug dealer and drug lords:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3774386/Philippines-Duterte-calls-Barack-Obama-son-whore.html
Seems Barry Obama is the rip Rodney dangerfield of our time "I get no respect"
This should also show the department that VRI doesn't work. VRI guys who are working don't do anything. Instead they cancelled every tac,gang and sat team. Those guys are the younger guys who still are working and they get cancelled and continue to work. You get a ton of people who still work and crime will stay lower. Put 500 guys bringing in zeros on vri and you have 15 dead and 70 shot. This proves that VRI does nothin. And the department needs to hire a ton of people. When they get the numbers those younger officers will go out and work. I'm done working. I've got 27 on and on cruise control. I don't envy or hate workers. God bless them just be careful. But if you flood the ghetto with workers then of course crime goes down. You want crime to stay down then get young aggressive coppers out there. Hire 2500 young kids and get them in the fast districts then you will see crime drastically drop. You need a disconnect from the current mopes in this job who do nothing but hide and 1st and 16thz. They are useless and can do nothing for crime in this city. This was just shown this weekend.
9/05/2016 12:28:00 AM
I wish that were true so I could take some credit. Fact is, the hurricane down south prevented a high pressure system from moving. Bringing us, cool, pollution free, North winds. As the winds shifted from the south bringing humidity and heat, the killings exploded.
It's all relative. Blame Tom Skilling.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Targeted EDGE mission, completely unconstitutional. Arresting officers will be listing assets shortly
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Oh you poor scared little boy. I have no problem listing my assets. Just so you morons know, you DONT have to list your assets if you don't want too. Don't any of you guys ask questions when you are getting sued?? Every lawyer just says to fill it out. That's so if you get hit punitively you can claim "inability to pay". If you don't want to reveal your assets you don't have too, it's your right as a defendant to do so. Just because Corp council says do it doesn't mean it's your only option. And stop being terrified of lawsuits you little girl. The only thing lawsuits are anymore is money makers for the coppers and the lawyers. Go make your big hours, it's gonna eventually end up getting settled anyways or go to trial with a win or a judgement against the city only.
strong finish
Anonymous said...
It sort of scares me that the Department isn't smart enough to realize that removing some of these shitheads from the street creates a power vacuum which leaves behind more neer do wells to take up the slack, ie... the guns on the street.
And enquiring minds want to know who are the officers doing all this proactive work? Do we still have these kinds of officers? Will the city and brass back them up when things go wrong, as is bound to happen?
9/05/2016 10:05:00 AM
Think of it like baseball season, and Rahm is being as cheap as George Steinbrenner back in the day. He controls the checkbook, but doesn't grasp the idea that if you want to have a winning season, you gotta leave Billy Martin alone to do his thing. Let Billy develop the pitching staff and get some heavy hitters for offense and get some good utility players to hold the fort defensively, and you're gonna start racking up the wins. Just sign the checks and show up for the photo-ops, but let your managers deal with the day-to-day shit of running the team.
Anyway, the other team loses some of their starting lineup every month or so when the sweeps happen and they end up benched for a few innings, courtesy of Cook County. So now the second stringers take the field, and maybe a few of the more ambitious dudes from the minors decide to tag along. They play a few innings 'til they get tagged out or take their turn on the disabled list, but by then the regular starters are rested up and ready to get back into it. The SSL list is just a sloppy scouting report that focuses on the other teams star players but totally overlooks the rest of the bench and whatever might be on tap from the minors. The shitheads are always scouting, always recruiting, and are always bringing in new players, while 35th Street wants to keep playing the same lineup even though the CPD bench is pretty empty.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Targeted EDGE mission, completely unconstitutional. Arresting officers will be listing assets shortly
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Oh you poor scared little boy. I have no problem listing my assets. Just so you morons know, you DONT have to list your assets if you don't want too. Don't any of you guys ask questions when you are getting sued?? Every lawyer just says to fill it out. That's so if you get hit punitively you can claim "inability to pay". If you don't want to reveal your assets you don't have too, it's your right as a defendant to do so. Just because Corp council says do it doesn't mean it's your only option. And stop being terrified of lawsuits you little girl. The only thing lawsuits are anymore is money makers for the coppers and the lawyers. Go make your big hours, it's gonna eventually end up getting settled anyways or go to trial with a win or a judgement against the city only.
9/06/2016 04:16:00 AM
Your wrong! Was at federal trial, took stand being sued first thing stated by lawyer after sworn on "state your assets and liabilities" Oh and while this process is being metered out all your assets are frozen so if the thug wins you cannot move them!
I wouldn't listen to anything escalate says. The wife beater; remember that Annie, remember that Bea? That's how you got in the picture.
That domestic battery was quickly covered up by then Sgt. R.A. And Capt. E.S.
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