Tuesday, October 04, 2016

Prison for Tickets?

Tickets written solely for revenue might cost officers if this law passes:
  • It can be argued that police departments across the country practice a form of legal extortion, in which victimless misdemeanors and infractions are punished with excessively punitive citations. The generation of state and city revenue via Kafkaesque civil and municipal violations is perhaps most apparent in the application of parking tickets, whereby inscrutable, sometimes illegible street signs make well-intentioned motorists increasingly susceptible to fines.

    In the city of Los Angeles alone, fine revenue has increased 50% since 2003 and is expected to reach $180 million by 2018. In recent years, many online social media movements have surged in response to this transparently fraudulent urban taxation, with many citizens demanding their local city governments take action against cops filling their ticket “quotas.”

    A new bill introduced by Representative Emanuel Cleaver of Missouri may soon push the movement forward. In the wake of the Department of Justice report regarding the police brutality and resulting riots in Ferguson, Missouri, Cleaver wants such unjust ‘policing for profit’ tactics to be considered federal civil liberty violations.

    Calling the bill The Fair Justice Act, Cleaver wants any police officer charged with enforcing criminal or traffic laws for the sole purpose of raising revenue to face prison time — for up to five years!
Smaller municipalities have often balanced their budgets based on ticket revenues and required Officers to generate money or face some form of discipline. And let's be realistic - Chicago's ticket cameras, speed and red light, exist solely to generate money for (A) the installing company and (B) assorted city funds. But to put the onus on Officers instead of the politicians who demand money to feed the ever growing "entitlement community," that's not going to inspire coppers to go and write tickets.

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72 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

another example of an activist politician talking emotions (quite obvious police hatred for one) coupled with little knowledge of the law saying stupid things. let's face it ghetto blacks don't want to obey any laws. keep voting democratic if you agree.

10/04/2016 12:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If that was the case NO Officer would ever write a ticket, ever

10/04/2016 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's the way it should be. Damn all greedy politicians.

10/04/2016 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bike revenue people got to get their daily quote or be fired. They hate the police and will write a squad or unmarked with flashing lights on in a second and sneak away like a mouse in the night.
When the W/C says they need movers or parkers, what do you call that ? Revenue maybe ???
Those things working revenue think they are above the law and spread their hate with people at mass in 016 on Sunday. Ever see them at the make believe church's at all the s/s districts and writing.
Shame shame shame.

10/04/2016 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What constitutes writing tickets solely for the purpose of revenue?

I NEVER wrote a parking ticket soley for revenue purposes. I wrote them because someone violated municipal code. You know? Law and order? Rules? Like any civilized society has.

10/04/2016 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So not only should criminals not be responsible for committing crimes, robbing stores, robbing people, stealing cars, running from the cops, etc. Now people shouldn't be responsible for parking their own vehicle's in ridiculous ways that result in tickets. Why don't we just dump the entire ILCS since cops are always labeled the bad guys anyway and no one is ever accountable for their own actions or now apparently, vehicles.

10/04/2016 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All the insanity is simply destroying the old system . Soon , the people will have a shiny new system that will inspire hope .

10/04/2016 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How backward is this thinking ? These assholes make the laws and police enforce them. Repeal the laws moron then no one has to obeynthem. Get rid of all traffic laws. Lets make it even more 3rd world around here. The stupidity of these people is not much of a shock. Lets blame police for the laws we create to wring money out of people.

10/04/2016 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How are they going to prove me giving shithead a Parker is for the sole purpose of increasing the cities revenue

10/04/2016 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just another kick to our nuts. We're the bad guys. Like you said SCC, not the red light /speed camera bullshit automatic enforcement the greedy politicians put into play. Well it's interesting because knowing how this is Chicago I triple check the spot before parking. But some people could care less. Then they cry about getting tickets.

10/04/2016 01:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone remember...Parking Warrants?

They were ruled unconstitutional over twenty years ago when it was determined that you could not physically arrest someone for a violation that was not a jail-able offence.

Now who I'd really like to hammer is those (explicative deleted)s with the Denver Boots.

While we are on the subject of parking in Chicago. Why is it that no one ever came up with a strategy to sue and get that insane parking meter deal overturned? They could give any living alderman immunity and supposedly Richie Shortshanks is not mentally fit to answer questions. I hope lives to be a 120 inside a prison of his own skin dribbling, not knowing his own name and terrified of every shadow.

Why is it that the parking meter deal won't be overturned? Because Richie is working for the law firm that represents the parking meter company. I am sure that Rahm and the aldermen are all receiving ample campaign contribution (bribes) from that Arab based company.

10/04/2016 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You forgot to add "REMINDER, PLEASE BRING YOUR SAFETY VEST FOR VRI TRAFFIC SAFETY MISSIONS"

10/04/2016 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

with all this, the police are the enemy attacks I make this observation " No Copper has EVER been fired for doing nothing".

10/04/2016 01:58:00 AM  
Anonymous The Box Chevy Phantom said...

"Smaller municipalities have often balanced their budgets based on ticket revenues and required Officers to generate money or face some form of discipline."

Just smaller municipalities, SCC?

Sheeeeeit...
Just counting CPD?

Start times fucked with...
Partners separated...
Jackpot/Tag-Team discipline and administrative harassment...
Otherwise rock-solid Officers magically
unable to do a damned thing right for want of "enough activity."

A lot of hinky-assed stories about how low
a lot of so called bosses will go.

Heh... Doubly fuck your life if you don't
buy a ticket to the district "Holiday" party.

Hell... You might even rate having your own personal
Inspector following you from job to job in order to
"inspire" you.

Just don't ask him if he's just a spectator
or an active participant when you have
a dynamic job that needs two to handle
properly.

(Lazy m/fer was standing down the street
with his hands in his fucking pockets
"observing," so we figured it was a more
than fair question.)

(Hiya Bubblehead! Hoping the day comes when
you and your BFF Pineapple-Head get to share
a prison cell for your antics.)

Moving right along...

"And let's be realistic - Chicago's ticket cameras, speed and red light, exist solely to generate money for (A) the installing company and (B) assorted city funds. But to put the onus on Officers instead of the politicians who demand money to feed the ever growing "entitlement community," that's not going to inspire coppers to go and write tickets."

Demands for "activity" reach a particular resonance and
stridency in inverse proportion to the management skills and
leadership ability of the bosshole-of-the-moment who's
making those demands.

e.g.

"I ain't got Jackson J. Shit, other than standing here at
the podium during roll-call and berating/motherfucking
grown men with guns about how they're not writing "enough" tickets/
filling out stupid-assed statistical surveys and other intentionally
silly shit designed to land Policemen in the Feeb crosshairs.

Typical donkey dung to aim yet another piece of willfully wretched
legislation at Policemen as if they're solely responsible
for the revenue generation jackpottery in question.

10/04/2016 02:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where does that leave the Meter Maids and the
Department of Finance Guys?

10/04/2016 02:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So let's see, criminals can no longer be sent to prison, called felons or handicapped in any way for their possible future careers as law-abiding citizens..... property derived from criminal enterprises or used in crimes can longer be seized or forfeited......and now even minor lawbreakers can no longer be fined.

What's the downside to becoming a criminal?



Oh, but wait...doesn't that proposed law contradict the main function of the modern police officer as revenue collector for the state? Just how will the insatiable corrupt government raise money for its crooked politicians and degenerate programs?

I got it! The middle class. Yes, the middle class will foot the bill....they always do. They won't mind if their taxes go up and up....in fact, they love feeling generous and useful. That's why they keep voting for the same crooked politicians year after year.

10/04/2016 02:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
What constitutes writing tickets solely for the purpose of revenue?

I NEVER wrote a parking ticket soley for revenue purposes. I wrote them because someone violated municipal code. You know? Law and order? Rules? Like any civilized society has.
10/04/2016 12:34:00 AM

Please explain how "professional courtesy" works? Why is it against the law to speed, if it is not against the law for all citizens? I know some are "more equal" than others ... When Cops start writing each other tickets, then we can really believe it is about "law and order".

10/04/2016 05:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The bike revenue people got to get their daily quote or be fired. They hate the police and will write a squad or unmarked with flashing lights on in a second and sneak away like a mouse in the night.
When the W/C says they need movers or parkers, what do you call that ? Revenue maybe ???
Those things working revenue think they are above the law and spread their hate with people at mass in 016 on Sunday. Ever see them at the make believe church's at all the s/s districts and writing.
Shame shame shame.

10/04/2016 12:21:00 AM

And here we go again...

Good morning all, Finance Guy on a Bike here to respond to this one. Hope you don't
Mind SCC.

Fisrtly, We Have No Quota. We Must write 1 ticket to test the functionality of the machine we take out on patrol each shift.
Past that Single Citation: 1 hour down for Lunch and 2 15 minute breaks aside, we can get away with Not Writing a single
Ticket past that 1st one If : We communicate past X time each time that X time passes that despite our best efforts we can not locate a violation to be written. Once again: No Quota. If the litmus of X time with no tickets can not be passed, then it is 14 tickets. That works out to be 2 per hour if we are not calling a Supervisor every 30 minutes with "It's Dead out here boss, but I'm still looking" radio call to the bosses.

Think about that for a minute...14 tickets in a 7 hour day. I know a cop that used to drive a Traffic car all day in 19/23. Bragged she could write 75+ a shift. I've Seen 2 squads and a cop on a Segway doing street cleaning in 018. I've seen police issued citations for Residential Permit in 018 around Sheffield and Belsen and Dearborn and North Ave. Cops in 020 have a coniptiom fit if we get to the street cleaning before they do. I've watched foot patrol Cops check meters in around Michigan Ave and Inner LSD.

It's what we do. It's a job and not a bloody vocation. A large percentage of us are trying to bid out to a different department or agency to do something the hell else.

"Will write a squad" : Bull crap. Standing GO in our department is to not write a mark PD or FD or OEMC/TMA marked vehicle. And we are allowed discression on all unmarked Gvt/U & M plates. Having said that, let me point out 9-100-110 (if I recall correctly.)
All city employees that are in possession of a city vehicle are expected to park legally at all times. Being on an Emergency Call or Official Investigation is a valid grounds for any parking citation that has been issued to that city vehicle to be dismissed.

Now, about weekends: I used to comment that only Ser Co (the sub-contractor) worked weekends. That changed last weekend. Finance PEAs have finally gotten back the ability to work OT. The city is looking to dump Ser Co once the contract for service expires.
So park legally at all times please.

As for "how will this affect PEAs/Finance":

It won't. As so many here have stated: We are not the Police. And we also do not target based upon race. Unless you consider a motor vehicle to be a non-intelligent metallic life form.

10/04/2016 05:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only Justifiable Reason to write a parking ticket is if the vehicle has a faded Obama sticker, or a Bernie or Hillary sticker on it! Hope and Change this, You Fu%cking Assh%#e! Stay Fetal, Reject Rahm's Corrupt Chicago Values! Baby"G"

10/04/2016 05:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just another reason to NOT do any activity! Bye bye Parkers!

10/04/2016 05:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about supervisors that ask, demand, threaten, insinuate, or punish officers for activity or lack of get sent to prison? The fish stinks from the head...

10/04/2016 06:42:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Representative Cleaver. Just like Beaver Cleaver.

10/04/2016 06:48:00 AM  
Blogger Big Daddy said...

Cleaver. That name is all you need to know to understand what this is all about.

10/04/2016 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

VRI requirement
1. 5 parking tickets
2. 5 traffic tickets
3. 5 administrative Notice of violation

Hmm?

10/04/2016 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good thing 1200 didn't issue any parking tickets to those two motorized shopping carts he recovered yesterday.

10/04/2016 07:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The World is a ghetto!

"these Crack Babies", are trying to re-write the laws of the land!

10/04/2016 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the day, if you did not make your quota you were punished with reassignments, your vehicle and beat was changed, and you would find yourself guarding a prisoner at the County for a couple of periods.

10/04/2016 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We have the most only traffic court in the country that loses money

10/04/2016 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about just following the laws and rules of the land. If you know it's illegal to double park, then don't double park. If you know it's illegal to drive around without a license .... then don't do it. What the fuck has this country become ?!

10/04/2016 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous #StayAliveTo55 said...


And just how do they expect to prove that a ticket was issued "solely" for revenue???

What copper in their right mind would ever admit that???

If you happen to get caught up in this mess, just fall back on the "Hillary" defense - My "intent" was to enforce the law...

The FBI will buy that excuse...(sarcasm)

"Rham-springa" is spreading...

10/04/2016 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Luckily, a court has since thrown out this law: http://www.kmov.com/story/31584353/court-strikes-down-mo-law-limiting-revenue-from-traffic-tickets

10/04/2016 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We got a revenue guy on bike in 016, who writes like theres no 2morrow.

10/04/2016 08:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

don't look now Representative Emanuel Cleaver but you're hatred for police, racism, and stupidity are showing Vote all the like minded democrats OUT IN NOV . they are not your parents democrats

10/04/2016 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Fair Justice Act, it doesn't mean stop writing tickets, it means only write tickets to the hard working, tax paying, "non-diversified" citizens. You know, the people that support the police, the citizens that want to see the police in their neighborhoods, anyone that supported or wore a "I am Darren Wilson" wrist band. And, of course, the guy sitting next to you at roll call. You can write all the tickets you want to these people.

J.J.

10/04/2016 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All I have to say is it shows you the stupidity of a politician who thinks that laws are racist because it affects the minorities who commit a violation of the law and feel that they are not responsible to pay a fine

10/04/2016 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please everybody vote for Donald Trump we have to stop this insanity the Law & Order president

10/04/2016 09:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree! Send the entire Chicago Department of Revenue to prison! For life!

10/04/2016 09:49:00 AM  
Blogger Cuthbert J. Twillie said...

This article is a little old, from Dec. 15, 2015 (but that's okay) and since nobody has heard anything further in the news about it, its safe to say this thing went nowhere.

Not to mention that any Bill proposed by a demonRAT isn't going anywhere in a Republican controlled House of Representatives.

But just so folks (and people) know: These leftist moonbats do this kind of nonsense all the time when the GOP has control of the House. Introducing goofy Bills that they know will go nowhere, dying in some obscure committee. You'd be surprised how many times that one goofy demonRAT Rep. introduced Bills of Impeachment when Bush 43, aka 'Dubya', was POTUS. It was like that's all the goof Henry Waxman (R-CA) spent his time on. Thank God that moron is no longer a US Representative. He was an embarrassment.

ps: I'd bet the rent that about every month some demonRAT leftist Representative introduces a Bill about some form of Gun Control: from what would be 'mildly irritating' and 100% useless, to outright confiscation of all firearms)

10/04/2016 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow theo epstein your so bright! You are giving free tickets to aldergoofs and then you give a huge check to criminal hillary clinton, now you must be so pleased with the way things are going, now you and your friends will spend hundreds of thousands or more on private security around the crime infested wrigley field area:

http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago/theo-epstein-and-his-neighbors-near-wrigley-hire-private-security/

When the Epsteins moved into their neighborhood in 2012, crimes including burglaries and robberies generally began to decline, bottoming out in 2015.

Such crimes now are on the uptick in the police beat that includes their home, city statistics show. Burglaries are up 90 percent compared to this time last year, from 40 to 76. Robberies have increased 80 percent, from 10 to 18.

(Ok theo really big increases and you can keep donating tickets and cash to the elected and your friend failing rahm)

Then tunney with this brainstorm reason:

“There’s been a more brazen approach (by criminals) than we’ve seen,” Wrigleyville-area Ald. Thomas Tunney (44th) said. “There is a feeling of unease. We deal with it every day.”

(they are brazen! How many police were taken from that area Tommy? Have you noticed how the police are being totally maligned? Oh what happens to off-duty copper if he/she gets into it with the savage animals preying on area? What lawyers have their backs? Will it be officer great job take the stand and "state your assets and liabilities" as the copper is sent up the rive?)

Theo wake up, the better side of the Ricketts family who know about "law and order" wrote a nice check to trump but you of little brain matter are sipporting the same old, if your girl hillary gets in expect crimes to quadruple, your young brain theo is small but developing wake up vote Trump!

10/04/2016 10:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've said it before and I'll say it again: This is an orchestrated plan to destroy policing by municipality and state in this country and replace it with FEDERAL policing ala Obama Brownshirt bullshit.


This is happening now at a pace fast enough for people to actually see, and they still think it's bullshit.

There is NO other reasonable explanation why city, state and now federal governments are willingly jumping on the bandwagon to destroy and defund policing across the country.

10/04/2016 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
with all this, the police are the enemy attacks I make this observation " No Copper has EVER been fired for doing nothing".
10/04/2016 01:58:00 AM


Oh that's next pal. You wait until they've backed police against the jail cell wall making every move they make a crime. Once they've made it illegal to police, they'll publicly call you a lazy fuck and demand that you're fired for not committing the "crime" of policing.

10/04/2016 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How are they going to prove me giving shithead a Parker is for the sole purpose of increasing the cities revenue

10/04/2016 01:07:00 AM

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The inmates are running the asylum. You are guilty until proven innocent. So the question is, how are you going to prove you didn't write a parker for the sole purpose of increasing revenue? See you in five years.

10/04/2016 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who will decide if the ticket was written to solely generate revenue?? Perhaps an anti-police board run by citizens can

10/04/2016 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"put the onus on Officers instead of the politicians who demand money to feed the ever growing "entitlement community," that's not going to inspire coppers to go and write tickets."

— Would that be the VRI Traffic Stop? Which is government sponsored robbery. Thugs and deadbeats don't pay their fines, it's a fact.
Only taxpayers who actually fear loss of license, insurance rate increases, id's etc will be targeted for revenue.
It's not our onus, it's the Merit hack chickenshit supervisors who create these quotas and demand tickets or reprisals. It's all Rahm & Special Ed and the ones they chose to run these sham operations.

You can write 1 citation in 016 at 0800 hrs and get more revenue than from a 3 watch, 6 month VRI traffic blitz in 007 and 011.
As for those revenues, 016 is grossly underserved in comparison. The waste of money is astounding. From street lights, camera pods, parades, street cleaning and those 24/7 open fire hydrants.

It's more pandering to a select group of big mouths. If you break the law, you pay a penalt. It's that simple, but politicians want to put an exempt and immunity label on these certain groups and folks. No Law - No Order. And they're getting away with it.
VOTE TRUMP.

Stay Fetal, this is Rahm's Chicago not yours.

10/04/2016 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I may be wrong but don't the elected officials decide the cost of penalties?

10/04/2016 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SERCO, Chicago Parking Meters LLC, and those involved in elimination of due process in parking violations belong in prison. Administrative hearings are A Kangaroo Court.

10/04/2016 11:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the bright side, if this passes will Rahm go to jail? Wishful thinking I guess. This country, state and city are off the rails with their depolicing strategy that lets people do what ever they want. In the mean time people are dying. The thugs are the thugs, but they have been killing innocent people. If you vote for Hillary, it will just keep getting worse! Any copper that thinks otherwise is sadly mistaken.

10/04/2016 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The corrupt parking deal that Shortshanks signed is owned by Abu Dhabi: ADIA.

Just one of many investments they own in deals where Goddam Sachs and other big-crook bankers took advantage of stupid municipal politicians -- who gave the store away for decades and decades.

10/04/2016 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay... how about this. Cities and municipalities can no longer profit from tickets. Instead all the money accrued from fines etc in a year are distributed to citizens in the form of tax refunds if said citizen was not convicted of any civil or criminal offense.

Might give law-abiding people a reason to move into crappy neighborhoods!

10/04/2016 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To get the parking deal undone would imvolve paying back most of the 1 billion dollars that was paid by the winning bidder. One problem is that all of that money; and then some, has already been spent

10/04/2016 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about this no whites allowed college retreat kind of racist?
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/29310/

10/04/2016 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of Traffic missions, listen to radio and hear our very own 025 Dist Sgt Pancakes soak up the air with his stupidity. Trying to justify his existence by talking on the radio

10/04/2016 01:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Start writing, all News trucks, Paper trucks, beer Vendors, all violations by
aldercreatures offices,BMW, Audi, Jaqs, they probably voted for Demo's.

10/04/2016 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...The only Justifiable Reason to write a parking ticket is if the vehicle has a faded Obama sticker, or a Bernie or Hillary sticker on it! " (10/04/2016 05:17:00 AM)

– How true, in my day, either a B-96 (radio) or Harold bumper sticker always got an extra banana. These folks always had the propensity to blast their woofer from the trunk of those duece ana'quarters. Just imagine putting a TRUMP sticker on your car. So many people fear the damage that WILL be caused by the passing liberal idiot. Illinois could be holding a lot more Trump supporters and votes than Clinton realizes. Hope Illinos voters will come out of the woodwork and knock Crooked Hillary & Rahm out. Her lead is a measly 6% over Trump.

10/04/2016 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again, SCC nailed it on the head! Greedy + corrupt politicians making sure their palms are greased so they can cash in on the red-light scamera-system. Let's take a closer look at Fox River Grove, IL ("Little Moscow"), for example, and the retired judge they use, who incidentally pulls in around 250K/year- to make sure anyone who contests their scam-era red-light ticket in an administrative hearing- gets found guilty. This is a scam of the highest order, and these corrupt jagoffs need to go to prison, not the honest street cops who protect the citizens and try to keep society from collapsing upon itself with all this corruption surrounding them! Is anyone at Channel 2, 5, 7, or 9 paying attention? How about Tribune? Sun-Times? Hello???

10/04/2016 08:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I pay about a thousand dollars in wheel taxes on all the vehicles at my house every year. I only write city stickers and I come in with 10/day (2k worth of tickets). Rarely write expired plates 'cause I can't read 'em due to the poor color contrast (black on red). Don't pay the wheel tax--fuck ya. I get gigged for not having my shit up to date.

10/04/2016 10:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Please explain how "professional courtesy" works? Why is it against the law to speed, if it is not against the law for all citizens? I know some are "more equal" than others ... When Cops start writing each other tickets, then we can really believe it is about "law and order".

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Why should police officers write each other tickets. Do you think we all run around on our off time breaking state traffic laws and parking illegally all day? So according to your logic because we happen to be police officers AND we have the right to exercise discretion that should automatically exempt anyone and everyone from traffic citations? Should I as a police officer not extend what you call 'professional courtesy' to doctors, teachers, firefighters, nurses, clergy men or otherwise someone who is down on their luck but is polite and honest about why they were speeding? If I get a ticket for speeding via a camera or a parking ticket i cannot "fix" my citation. I pay just like everyone else. And I also pay a boatload of taxes as well as a working person, just like most upstanding citizens. Also does your job require you under the law to act when you are off and away from work if need be? Can you die as result of performing your job?

i could explain it to you more but some how I feel it more cathartic to just say "go fuck your self ". Until you walk a mile in our shoes will you understand what we contribute to society.

10/04/2016 10:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Her lead is a measly 6% over Trump"

Not in Illinois Trump has only 6% of the voting electorate. Fuzzy Math strikes again

10/04/2016 11:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yet another reason to stay FETAL.

10/05/2016 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, to present a counterpoint, the coming body worn cameras will show the vehicle under whatever illegal condition for which you are citing it. Write the tickets when the illegal condition exists and not when it doesn't--like damn near all of us do already. If whatever powers that be want to claim your motivation was revenue, race or malice, they can see the video. Or the good ol' beef from OPS/IPRA/COPA that you wrote a citation... but... wait for it... were also verbally abusive. The same applies when they want to say you put that gun or dope on 'em.

10/05/2016 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please explain how "professional courtesy" works? Why is it against the law to speed, if it is not against the law for all citizens? I know some are "more equal" than others ... When Cops start writing each other tickets, then we can really believe it is about "law and order".
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Nobody needs to explain anything to you, dumbass. It's my discretion and I'll write who I want, which means I'll continue not writing cops while papering idiots like you.

10/05/2016 04:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please explain how "professional courtesy" works? Why is it against the law to speed, if it is not against the law for all citizens? I know some are "more equal" than others ... When Cops start writing each other tickets, then we can really believe it is about "law and order".

10/04/2016 05:01:00 AM

Speaking for my self, I probably wrote less than 2 or 3 percent of the people I stopped. I was not a traffic guy, they wrote a lot more I am sure. "Professional courtesy" was given to anyone that had a job and insurance. A problem child always got the ticket. I believed in traffic education, and if you didn't want to listen then you got the ticket. Again, I believe that was the norm.

Traffic, like weed arrests, were done for a reason. To remind the lawless, or really bad drivers, that the streets did not belong to them. The streets belong to the good people. The ones that hired us to keep them safe. Maybe I just hang around with people like me, but that has been my experience with the coppers I worked with. We are not always the most civil people all the time, but we really are here to help. Think of where you would be without us. The way it's going, you may not have to think. You may find out. I hope it is not coming to that. I am a realist and there are some very bad people out there, real predators.

10/05/2016 07:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what the DOJ investigation of Ferguson amounted to : cops were writing too many jaywalking tickets to blacks - remember that nonsense? all the hooplah - and "too many jaywalking tickets"

what a joke

10/05/2016 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please explain how "professional courtesy" works? Why is it against the law to speed, if it is not against the law for all citizens? I know some are "more equal" than others ... When Cops start writing each other tickets, then we can really believe it is about "law and order".

10/04/2016 05:01:00 AM

It's called discretion and can be extended to almost anyone. A large percentage of my stops result in a "have a nice day".
Somehow I don't think you fall in that percentage and would need it writing.

10/05/2016 11:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"Why should police officers write each other tickets. Do you think we all run around on our off time breaking state traffic laws and parking illegally all day?"


Actually... Depends on the Ward.....


Having said that: The majority of you all violate 9-64-020(a) in several wards, and whine when you get a $25.00 Ticket from us at Finance.


All or None babycakes. You either issue tickets To Everyone regardless of Race or Job...or don't check out a Ticket Book because you are automatically Cherry picking.



Oh...by the way:

Unit 211/212 as well as any other Cop: You guys want to stop writing anything Other than a City Sticker Ticket, Handicap Violation, Fire Hydrant and Fire Lane in those Parking Lots and Garages or Vacant Lots around the North/East/West/South Sides in the CBD. Seems it is a Violation of the Language of the Title 9 ordinances to Issue Expired Plates or Cracked Windshield or Rear and Front plate required or any other Compliance/Parking Ticket if the Vehicle is not actually On A Roadway. Law Department, IG and Comptroller are involved in Investigating the CPD.


Best Love and Affection:


Tina from Finance

10/05/2016 04:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody needs to explain anything to you, dumbass. It's my discretion and I'll write who I want, which means I'll continue not writing cops while papering idiots like you.

10/05/2016 04:53:00 AM

I bet you have a police shrine in your basement......

10/05/2016 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I probably left the job and still had the original books that were signed out by me with my FTO. Sure, every now and ten we had to turn in books for one reason or anther and get another set but I still believe I went through my career only writing what an accident report absolutely required and nothing more.

10/05/2016 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey if you work at McDonalds you eat for free right? If you work at the movies you go for free or half off right? So if your a cop you get a break when your pulled over ...big deal people get over it...if you want a break were hiring! Best decision I ever made im a M/1 HAVEN'T GOT A TICKET SINCE...oh yeah im making dick too off the new test too so it can be done legit with no help or cheating for the brothers and sister's. STAY FETAL!

10/05/2016 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Nobody needs to explain anything to you, dumbass. It's my discretion and I'll write who I want, which means I'll continue not writing cops while papering idiots like you.

10/05/2016 04:53:00 AM

I bet you have a police shrine in your basement......

10/05/2016 04:33:00 PM

Yeah, so what if I do?

Doofus...

10/06/2016 10:50:00 AM  
Blogger Bruce Edwards said...

Whoever gave clowns from Dept of Revenue authority to issue tickets? Arn't they imitating a police officer?

10/06/2016 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@ Bruce:


Municipal Codes under Title 9 (which are what codes the Parking Enforcement Aides enforce) are NOT Criminal Acts if you violate them. Tickets for Expired Plates or a City Sticker violation or Double Parking or Parking or Standing in a Bike Lane are municipal code violations. You don't get a Bench Warrant for failure to pay/appear. So no, there is no Imitation or Impersonation if a PEA writes a ticket to a vehicle.

While no one on this blog will admit to liking what PEA's do every shift...I highly doubt there is a single Police Officer in this city that would not at least grudgingly admit that the PEA's serve a purpose. And amazingly enough, PEA's get honest thank yous from time to time around the city...usually for checking Residential Permit zones or Street Cleaning in areas that see a high volume of scofflaws. I was thanked by residents for Checking the Permit Zones around NEIU the other day (Bryn Mawr and St Louis if you don't know where that is).

That purpose is Two Fold:

1. Enforce Parking and Vehicle Compliance violations (when discovered on daily patrol) that the Police do not have the Man Power to look for every shift in addition to everything else a Police Officer might have to deal with while on Patrol. Simply Put, there are not enough Police in this City to just focus on Parking Enforcement and Vehicle Compliance issues. Agencies like CDOT and BACP and Buildings and others also have Inspectors that write tickets for a variety of code violations, they are not sworn police officers, and their tickets are ones that can get you into serious trouble if you don't pay or show up to court.

2. Raise Money for the City. Pure and simple. Annoying...but its what the city does....try to find every cent it can via municipal code enforcement.


As for who gave Revenue/Finance the authority...

Chicago Department of Law
Chicago Mayors Office
Chicago Committee on Pedestrian and Traffic Safety

As for what year....I tried searching the internet to provide some history on when the City started its Meter Maid program...but can't find anything helpful.


I do know that the Department has a couple of staff that have been OTJ since before the 90's...and one staff member that has been with the City since 1970. And at one point...the Meter Maids were actually Sworn in as Special Police by the Superintendents office back in the day...I believe it was in the very early days of the Meter Maid program.

Personally speaking, I didn't grow up wanting to be a PEA. Its a Job I took to get out of a part time position as a Traffic Aide. I personally have been trying to find a different position in the City ever since I got full time status back before 2010. But the down side is, it is difficult to slide over to a different department in this city when you have no phone call. Even when you have a college degree. As a lot of coppers will point out on this blog...Clout is still King in this City.

Best Regards Bruce,

Bike Guy from Finance


10/08/2016 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's a big part of what brought down the government of Ferguson.

10/10/2016 08:58:00 AM  

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