No Victim, No Crime
- A 911 call was made at 11:09 p.m. on October 15, 2015, to report a battery incident involving a relatively minor use of force. Police arrived nearly a half-hour later, found no evidence of a crime having occurred, and went on their way.
The reality of the situation, however, was quite different, according to a report on the incident later published by The New Orleans Advocate. In actuality, a car had blown through a stop sign just after 11 p.m. in the popular Marigny neighborhood of New Orleans. A 64-year-old man visiting from San Diego was nearly hit by the car and exchanged angry words with the driver, who a witness says subsequently assaulted the tourist. The victim was ultimately paralyzed.
According to an EMS report provided to the Times of San Diego, the emergency medical service arrived at 11:22 p.m., 13 minutes after the 911 call was placed. The ambulance left with the injured tourist at 11:30 p.m., eight minutes before a police officer reached the scene. Finding no victim, the officer marked the call “unfounded” — meaning that he or she found no crime had occurred — in the police department’s Calls for Service database.1
This incident is a particularly egregious example of the effect that lengthy police response times2 can have on a city’s crime totals. Over the course of the hundreds of thousands of incidents that take place each year, long response times can lead to officers recording fewer incidents as crimes, which in turn can hurt the reliability of crime totals tallied by the FBI when the agency compiles national statistics. And ultimately, these delays can erode public confidence in the police.
We've recently seen a few comments that the Inspection Division is gigging cars for not hitting the "en route" and "on scene" buttons on the PDT's because there is some audit (or an FOIA) going on that makes response times look bad.
Anyone have info?
Anyone have info?
Labels: rumors
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
47 Comments:
It's getting even worse in Shit-cago!
“We've recently seen a few comments that the Inspection Division is gigging cars for not hitting the "en route" and "on scene" buttons on the PDT's because there is some audit (or an FOIA) going on that makes response times look bad.”
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I am a police robot, I will vote democrat, I will tote Rhams water, Kidney Bean is for baking or boiling, not the super blah blah of Chicago Police....God Damn this place is fucked
Who cares about the “enroute” “on scene” buttons. If there is an issue on any call, they can just GPS you.
The war is over. "Just signed complaints." That is what the public wants...that is what they get.
I remember many years ago, when I first came on the job , hearing a job dispatched. I was excited because I was literally right around the corner. I pulled up seconds after hearing the call and the victim yelled at me... what took so long, I called 5 minutes ago.
It Is still that way today almost 20 years later.
What if your PDT doesn't work or you don't even have one in the car ! I remember some bright spark a while back telling us that we needed to go over the air when en route and on-scene, good luck doing that on Zone 10 ! Nothing but clowns coming up with this shit in this department ! Oh well better get me another positive community interaction event # !
Sorry, a bit OT. So LAZ sent some of their parking whores over to 001 last nite and they wrote coppers cars for any little thing they could find. This wasn’t all that hard because finding a legit parking spot is next to impossible when you’re sharing a small lot with 001, traffic, major accidents, CTA, saturation, the mass arrest vans and the ongoing construction of the new school which takes up a large chunk of police parking. They even wrote a car that one of the tac teams brought in on a UUW charge for impoundment. Best make sure your employees are also following city ordinances LAZ.
What's with HQ kicking out officer's? Word is 65 in the next few weeks.
Leave it to the stopwatch engineers to destroy
morale and divide the workforce.
We don't know how far that unit in New Orleans
had to travel or the traffic conditions or the number
of inebriated tourists wandering in the middle of the
road, all factors that could contribute to a 30 minute
response time.
Let the armchair cops pull a shift and see if they can
do better.
Speaking of rumors, the feds took down a gang team. Rumor has it that they had been on their radar for awhile and set them up which led to a search warrant on at least 2 of them. At least one PO has been charged and that might not be the end of it. It'll be all over the news in the morning.
I wouldn't worry about the PDT's. Most cars don't even have them anymore.
The audit is coming in March.
Maybe they look bad because they are bad.
We’re dangerously short handed and have been for quite awhile especially under Rahm...... except for “in the community” Rahm has overstaffed those districts.
huh, maybe the police are important and having too few of them 10-8 is a bad thing?
Nah, move along, nothing to see here.
Let them stew in their own mess. Works for me. Get a CCL and handle it yourself just leave the scene, nothing to see there. Call for trash pickup.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Speaking of rumors, the feds took down a gang team. Rumor has it that they had been on their radar for awhile and set them up which led to a search warrant on at least 2 of them. At least one PO has been charged and that might not be the end of it. It'll be all over the news in the morning.
1/31/2018 02:10:00 AM
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Kidney Bean will jump on the sword and retire after firing Rialmo to defect attention and bad news--- Rham will hire more minorities and recruits with disabilities-- it's all good for Rham, re-election coming his way
POs in 011, gigd by inspector for not going to jobs in a timely manner, GPS their route and saw they got Coffee before the 19/p
Sorry, a bit OT. So LAZ sent some of their parking whores over to 001 last nite and they wrote coppers cars for any little thing they could find. This wasn’t all that hard because finding a legit parking spot is next to impossible when you’re sharing a small lot with 001, traffic, major accidents, CTA, saturation, the mass arrest vans and the ongoing construction of the new school which takes up a large chunk of police parking. They even wrote a car that one of the tac teams brought in on a UUW charge for impoundment. Best make sure your employees are also following city ordinances LAZ.
Sorry Francis, you get no sympathy from me. Get up early enough to find legit parking. bike it to work. Heck, ride public trans to 001. I biked it or rode the train to the 0ld 018 many years back. Our parking at the old 018 was even worse than what you're dealing with in 001 today.
Who cares about the “enroute” “on scene” buttons. If there is an issue on any call, they can just GPS you.
Then don't complain here when it's you who winds up written up for your failure to comply.
Leave it to the stopwatch engineers to destroy
morale and divide the workforce.
We don't know how far that unit in New Orleans
had to travel or the traffic conditions or the number
of inebriated tourists wandering in the middle of the
road, all factors that could contribute to a 30 minute
response time.
Let the armchair cops pull a shift and see if they can
do better.
If it took a beat car 20 minutes to arrive at a call, I would think a whole lot of other officers on this job could do better than that.
New orleans is one of the worst pokixe departments in America.
(OT) something to Brighton your day karma train:
Man killed by accomplice breaking into North Side home among 4 shot citywide
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-shootings-violence-20180130-story.html
man trying to break into a home in the North Side’s Lincoln Square area was shot dead late Tuesday by a man attempting to carrying out the home invasion with him, authorities said.
The pair encountered residents at the front door of the home in 2400 block of West Eastwood Avenue about 9:50 p.m., prompting one of the offenders to start shooting at the front porch.
A 43-year-old offender was fatally shot in the head and pronounced dead on scene, police said. Several police officers stood in a semi-circle around his body as detectives investigated.
No one who lived at the home was hurt, police said.
A lot of arrest coming from Holman SQ most will be Merit don't play with the new Attorney General they are watching OT stealing it Federal money stealing drugs stealing money and possible guns welcome to the Federal court system this ant 26 cal.
Did you ever notice that New Orleans smells like frat boy pee?
With police being called for anything from a clogged up toilet to the cable tv being out, and who ate the last rib bone, plus being short handed. They can't be everywhere! Remember a few years ago when one of the dispatchers took a 9-11 call then spent the next 15 in the shitter? You can't go to a job that hasn't been dispatched!
Anonymous said...
Who cares about the “enroute” “on scene” buttons. If there is an issue on any call, they can just GPS you.
1/31/2018 12:19:00 AM
They must have added that line to the order, idiot.
Well, isn't this what everyone votes for? The mayor advertises its a sanctuary city, visitors from out of state ought to take the necessary precautions.
J.J.
What's with HQ kicking out officer's? Word is 65 in the next few weeks.
Great, clouted officers coming back to the districts and still being taken care of.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What's with HQ kicking out officer's? Word is 65 in the next few weeks.
1/31/2018 01:35:00 AM
The problem with that is? Are they full duty desk dollies? If so it is about time to get their ass on the street answering calls!
(OT) This shows what a weasel Luis Gutierrez is,at about the 47 second mark watch how he runs out when he hears USA chant,as President trump says how this capitol building is the Americans and represents us,crazy how liberal CNN shows this,guess they were disgusted also:
https://twitter.com/megwagner/status/958542791390343169
Then you watch other lying democrats patting the poor boy like a baby on the arm as he runs away very cowardly no wonder he is resigning,or is he resigning knowing that the DOJ is looking into his antics and he does not want to lose that extremely lucrative pension when convicted? just axin!
MAGA! MCGA (make Chicago great again drain the swamp)
As reported on Facebook in Chicago yesterday: This morning we were traveling north on LSD (somewhere between Irving Park and Montrose) when a car came speeding out of nowhere, pulled up alongside of us, and proceeded to smash into our car three times before pulling ahead and speeding out of sight. Fortunately no one was hurt, but passenger side of our car is a mess along the entire length. We called 911, but cops never came. Finally drove to a police station and filed a report. The perpetrator's car was old, white with black hatchback, maybe a Honda Civic or similar. Partial license plate: 5961. There were 3-4 males in the car.
When we called 911, they took all the information and seemed concerned. They took a detailed statement about our location and said a cop would be there shortly. But then no one came, and when we went to the police station, they were not particularly interested, although took the information down.
Funny that the PDT thing gets brought up. The other night on Z9, dispatcher sent information to someone’s PDT. The response is “we don’t have one.” So she sends some information to another car that was on scene. Same response, “yeah we don’t have one either.” She responds, sighs and asks if anyone has a computer on this department any more, lol.
WTF is wrong with you people? You want more coppers? How do you expect the city to put in more bike lanes in the ghetto, or make more 666 trails where people get robbed and killed, and we can't stop putting flowers and decorations all over "this pig of a shittty".
Besides we have red light cameras making the streets safe from accidents and don't forget how many shootings and murders have been solved with "shotspotter"
Then there have been all those arrests made on the assholes shooting up the highways!
It's a real fucking adventure land, surprised anyone, with 1/2 a brain, still lives here.
THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY: DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT!
KEEPING VOTING DEMOCRAT! CHICAGO = COCOAPUFF'S CITY
Anonymous said...
What's with HQ kicking out officer's? Word is 65 in the next few weeks.
They will land in the front offices or CAPS in the district
I know it's a new world out there but my motto was "maintain radio silence at all times." The only words spoken by me when asked to say something asI was given my retirement plaque at the Christmas party were, "Run silent, run deep." and then I handed back the microphone.
My car's PDT signal is so low that it stays in red circle most of the time especially when driving. Once parked for 2-3 minutes then it goes back in green. I guess I'll have to park the car for 2-3 minutes to ACK the job. Then another 2-3 minutes park time for the ENROUTE and when I arrive ONSCENE, I'll have to sit in a car for another 2-3 minutes to make sure it was send successfully. I guess the victim/complainant will have to wait about 10 minutes longer so that I don't get gigged by inspector.
Here’s the info, we’ll get there when we get there! Coming from the other side of the district squad, while TVB wonders aren’t on their beats. Read the order on activating emergency equipment and follow it to the Tee!
It’s true. I heard it right from the inspector’s mouth. Something to do with some lawsuit about response times.
While I do feel bad for the paralyzed guy, you get there when you get there. And a lot of issues seem to work themselves out prior to arrival.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Who cares about the “enroute” “on scene” buttons. If there is an issue on any call, they can just GPS you.
1/31/2018 12:19:00 AM
They must have added that line to the order, idiot.
1/31/2018 07:44:00 AM
Actually, it has always been in the order. But who reads those things anyway.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Funny that the PDT thing gets brought up. The other night on Z9, dispatcher sent information to someone’s PDT. The response is “we don’t have one.” So she sends some information to another car that was on scene. Same response, “yeah we don’t have one either.” She responds, sighs and asks if anyone has a computer on this department any more, lol.
1/31/2018 09:38:00 AM
Why didn't she just look if they were logged on? Pretty easy to do. And if they weren't, her message would have bounced so how did she not know?
SPAR the PO - that’s from page 287 in Rahm AntiPolice playbook.
Inspectors check the PCAD database from their warm office and write up the infractions. Shooting trout in a barrel.
And as for the PDT itself... very slow mobile service, probably from an overloaded Cricket of Boost shared community network ever since Ameritech went AT&T Digital.
Cutting edge 21st Century Chicago technology...another Ron Huberman accomplishment.
Still waiting for JFed to re-prioritize the 9-1-1 calls down at OEMC too.
He may be more likely to get it done before Jugghead will.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
As reported on Facebook in Chicago yesterday: This morning we were traveling north on LSD (somewhere between Irving Park and Montrose) when a car came speeding out of nowhere, pulled up alongside of us, and proceeded to smash into our car three times before pulling ahead and speeding out of sight. Fortunately no one was hurt, but passenger side of our car is a mess along the entire length. We called 911, but cops never came. Finally drove to a police station and filed a report. The perpetrator's car was old, white with black hatchback, maybe a Honda Civic or similar. Partial license plate: 5961. There were 3-4 males in the car.
When we called 911, they took all the information and seemed concerned. They took a detailed statement about our location and said a cop would be there shortly. But then no one came, and when we went to the police station, they were not particularly interested, although took the information down.
1/31/2018 09:31:00 AM
"As reported on Facebook..."...........
That's adorable.......
Fucking Facebook.....the cutting edge of breaking news.....vital opinions.....crucial updates on the meaning of our very existence.....
Fucking Facebook.......
Did you ever notice that New Orleans smells like frat boy pee?
1/31/2018 06:57:00 AM
No.
But, then, I haven't taken up that particular hobby.
If it took a beat car 20 minutes to arrive at a call, I would think a whole lot of other officers on this job could do better than that.
1/31/2018 05:23:00 AM
Yep.....why, anything measured in minutes is too damn quick.
Sorry Francis, you get no sympathy from me. Get up early enough to find legit parking. bike it to work. Heck, ride public trans to 001. I biked it or rode the train to the 0ld 018 many years back. Our parking at the old 018 was even worse than what you're dealing with in 001 today.
Sorry, Larry, but you missed the point, an accomplishment you seem strongly suited to achieve at every opportunity provided.
Or is it that you approve of the pick pocketing, perhaps because, Larry, you are a pocket picker?
1/31/2018 05:20:00 AM
Too few police officers, in too few cars, with too many calls to respond to. That might highlight the slower response times.
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