One Year (plus 3 days)
The Year Without the Contract passed quietly with no end in sight.
This is a good thing.
Rahm wants to gut job protections and numerous outside types want to get involved in the actual negotiations. So far, the FOP has stood firm that job protections are not on the table and the outside agitators are already represented by their elected aldercreatures, so they can go pound sand. Personally, we hope the entire thing goes to arbitration without a single Letter of Agreement because at that point, the status quo is pretty much the agreement.
UPDATE: A e-mailer reminds us that sergeants and above are two years without a Contract, waiting for the FOP to do the heavy lifting. Hopefully, they don't cave by acquiescing to some insane demand that Rahm can then used to extract a concession from the FOP.
This is a good thing.
Rahm wants to gut job protections and numerous outside types want to get involved in the actual negotiations. So far, the FOP has stood firm that job protections are not on the table and the outside agitators are already represented by their elected aldercreatures, so they can go pound sand. Personally, we hope the entire thing goes to arbitration without a single Letter of Agreement because at that point, the status quo is pretty much the agreement.
UPDATE: A e-mailer reminds us that sergeants and above are two years without a Contract, waiting for the FOP to do the heavy lifting. Hopefully, they don't cave by acquiescing to some insane demand that Rahm can then used to extract a concession from the FOP.
Labels: contract stuff, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
44 Comments:
Here’s an idea how about 25 years of service and a day at 70% and your free healthcare insurance. Regardless of age and start collecting. Is this possible in a perfect world?
Fuck the retro. Let’s secure health insurance and get rid of this bullshit tier system.
The economy is great, so no using that as an excuse for shafting us on a solid raise.
Don’t give it up to him. He is a punk.
How long until the contract is forced into arbitration? We went 3 years without a new contract. The railroad, go figure right!
Psssst-
None of you have to be or remain unionized. You are under no obligation to pay union dues.
Negotiate your own contracts!
What would scare rahm more?
A unionized police force crying about no single union contract, or, ten thousand individual contract proposals all delivered to his office in the same week?
You hold all the power, if you stand together, individually. Let that sink in a bit.
If your union isnt producing results for you, instead producing results faborable to rahm, it is HIS, not yours. So WHY FUND IT FOR HIM?
Wait him out.
March on Rahm again in Sept, this time with 1,000+ POs.
UPDATE: A e-mailer reminds us that sergeants and above are two years without a Contract, waiting for the FOP to do the heavy lifting. Hopefully, they don't cave by acquiescing to some insane demand that Rahm can then used to extract a concession from the FOP.
Trust me, we won't cave. We're smarter than that. At least the few of us rank order promotee's are.
Let it go ten years!!!! I’m in it for the long haul!
Rahm is 💩
I agree. Ask for the raise, then right to arbitration.
Don’t give up medical, don’t give up job protections, fight for the insurance for retirees. This is coming from younger guy. The insurance, job securities and our medical are all priorities. The nine digit midget won’t give us much as far as raises any way so fight for what really matters!!’
Do not expect a contract prior to mayoral election.
We have been denied any chance at contract since city backed away from table.
With all the bad press that shines on police in America
Our currant mayor has decided to punish rank and file here.
With the past few court cases against CPD members
We all have to be punished with no contract
I was treated better back in the Corps. Always sign here and your good for another 4 years.....
This could be the most serious contract negotiations ever. It's time for professional negotiators to do the heavy lifting.
Let’s wait for the next mayor to get in hopefully it will be a pro police mayor someone that is going to back us our morale is in the shitter, police officers don’t feel that any elected official and is corrupt city has their back like the above post says Wirtz Gave money to Vallas, Rocky usually picks winners and I and many strongly believe that this man he picked is going to be a winner if we can make sure he has put an office where he belongs time for change we can be the change let’s do this!
Status quo to me reads no residency. Most major city have gone away with it. FOP should really fight for it. Now with the ruling passing for union dues not being paid, still covered for arbitration and contract negotiations. I’m all for paying my dues, but what if the coppers decide to back out unless residency requirements are lifted. I think we have leverage in that aspect in order for them to continue to receive our dues. The city would go to shit even more so than it already is without our homeowne tax payments, but that’s on the city to figure out. Maybe then they’ll realize they can’t locket every sent or have their hand in the cookie jar anymore and finally run the city as it should. I used to love Chicago, but seriously, fuck this place!!! Their politicians, crime, bad schools, etc.
No contacts for anyone until after election
It is time to look at binding Arbitron but the fop will not get what it wants
and the city will not get what it wants. If it is fair. The city will put pressure
on the arbiter you can count on it. That's is how Chicago works.
I'm a Sgt, we are not giving in. The city has offered us a decent raise if we just give in on their new discipline system and give up a few protections. The SGTS told the city F OFF!!!!
UPDATE: A e-mailer reminds us that sergeants and above are two years without a Contract, waiting for the FOP to do the heavy lifting. Hopefully, they don't cave by acquiescing to some insane demand that Rahm can then used to extract a concession from the FOP.
Trust me, we won't cave. We're smarter than that. At least the few of us rank order promotee's are.
Ah you’ve caved in the past my chevron friend. Correct me if I’m wrong but you agreed to the “wellness” requirement. How did that work out for ya?
Listen ladies and gentleman, this goes a lot further than the election of mayor. Please remember there is a lawsuit for a consent decree (Lisa Madigan, Rahm and FOP I bet are talking to resolve this, I hope) out there and there is the push for another civilian oversight (by Madigan) with that probably entwined if that consent decree occurs. These civilian oversight groups want to also participate in our contract negotiations.
Let it be known, the biggest thin we need to focus on right now (FOP) is to focus on this consent degree matter and ensure that nobody but the City of Chicago can participate in our Contract. To all you nay sayers, dollar to donuts, believe me there is going to be another civilian oversight group (Madigan wanted this). Read the news, Almost every candidate for Mayor says this is going to happen. We need to make sure any dealings with this lawsuit for the consent decree does not allow anybody but the City to participate in our contract negotiations.
Common sense dictates this....The City has not even discussed the contract with the FOP since the lawsuit from Madigan. This pause in contract negotiations has nothing to do with the election.....This is about the consent decree and the progressive left trying to get at our Contract.
Psssst-
None of you have to be or remain unionized. You are under no obligation to pay union dues.
Negotiate your own contracts!
What would scare rahm more?
A unionized police force crying about no single union contract, or, ten thousand individual contract proposals all delivered to his office in the same week?
You hold all the power, if you stand together, individually. Let that sink in a bit.
If your union isnt producing results for you, instead producing results faborable to rahm, it is HIS, not yours. So WHY FUND IT FOR HIM?
Some of you people are so ignorant it makes me sick. First Rahm would love to be able to negotiate with each officer individually. There would be no step increases just performance raises, good luck there. You think merit promotions are bad, with no union and no single contract everything would be merit. Second with no union there’s no legal defense fund. I know you're the one guy who says “I won’t do anything wrong, I don’t need a defense fund.” But it sure is nice knowing it’s there if you need it. And before you start on their lawyers are terrible, you don’t have to use FOP lawyers. You can use a lawyer of your choice, he/she just has to agree to work for what the FOP pays or you pay the difference. Many have hired outside counsel. At this point the best option is arbitration. We have on record that the previous contract raises were small because of the economy. Now there a much better economy so the pendulum has swung in our favor and theoretically we should be justly compensated.
Be careful what you wish for my friend you might just get it.
Psssst-
None of you have to be or remain unionized. You are under no obligation to pay union dues.
Negotiate your own contracts!
What would scare rahm more?
A unionized police force crying about no single union contract, or, ten thousand individual contract proposals all delivered to his office in the same week?
You hold all the power, if you stand together, individually. Let that sink in a bit.
If your union isnt producing results for you, instead producing results faborable to rahm, it is HIS, not yours. So WHY FUND IT FOR HIM?
Go away TROLL
FOP is in it for themselves, as usual.
Keep the retro. LETS GET RID OF RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
Make that language for job protection right and fight to keep that. The county is laying off all ranks No matter how much senority you have.
Only the Court LT’s contract has language regarding job protection layoff and elimination of positions and ranks. The rest of us are getting gutted. First Courts then Doc then the police. I know all you police don’t care about the county and comment on our blog hoping we all lose our jobs. I don’t wish that on no one. Good luck and stand together.
Nothing will get touched until this consent decree gets worked out and finalized. We’re looking at 3-4 more years until
It’s all passed and settled including arbitration etc.
We need to ho into arbitration NOW, while the economy is solid and before the mayoral elections!
what difference does it make. there is nothing the city can afford to give you.
my guess is eventually you end up with 2 or 3% a year, with back pay checks for the 2 or 3 years it takes to get a contract.
I don't see how the city can afford to do much of anything about retiree health care costs without it coming out of current members back pockets.
Anonymous said...
Don’t give up medical, don’t give up job protections, fight for the insurance for retirees. This is coming from younger guy. The insurance, job securities and our medical are all priorities. The nine digit midget won’t give us much as far as raises any way so fight for what really matters!!’
7/03/2018 03:55:00
Agreed this should be job #1!
The most important item is health insurance because health costs will see the greatest cost increases over your lifetimes.
Fight for new vehicles. Since it was such a big deal last time, and all you young guns voted for it.
I am willing to give up both the medical and retro check for some magic beans
UPDATE: A e-mailer reminds us that sergeants and above are two years without a Contract, waiting for the FOP to do the heavy lifting. Hopefully, they don't cave by acquiescing to some insane demand that Rahm can then used to extract a concession from the FOP.
They won’t cave. They will let the FOP do the heavy hitting and then after that’s been done they will just ask for another 1/2 hr a day and increased quarterly checks in addition to all of the benefits FOP either won at negotiations or won in arbitration. They have the “me too” so they aren’t worried
From the Janus ruling:
The Court’s opinion did recognize, though, that Unions are free to refuse to represent non-members in disciplinary matters, and to charge non-members for the cost of representing them if the Union chooses to do so. (See decision – footnote 6, page 17).
Keep the retro. LETS GET RID OF RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
Stop already... Residency is in our State Constitution, That is not up for years.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fight for new vehicles. Since it was such a big deal last time, and all you young guns voted for it.
Great idea. Fight for new cars. Great idea. The bosses will appreciate that. Every new car our unit gets goes to the boss, his is handed down to the Lt and then continues down the line
They won’t cave. They will let the FOP do the heavy hitting and then after that’s been done they will just ask for another 1/2 hr a day and increased quarterly checks in addition to all of the benefits FOP either won at negotiations or won in arbitration. They have the “me too” so they aren’t worried
Yeah, just like we didn’t get the last 2 raises FOP got because the city did not honor “me-too”
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They won’t cave. They will let the FOP do the heavy hitting and then after that’s been done they will just ask for another 1/2 hr a day and increased quarterly checks in addition to all of the benefits FOP either won at negotiations or won in arbitration. They have the “me too” so they aren’t worried
Yeah, just like we didn’t get the last 2 raises FOP got because the city did not honor “me-too”
7/04/2018 12:26:00 AM
And what did your attorneys do about that? Why have a me too clause and if they don’t honor it? Did you want FOP to sue?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Keep the retro. LETS GET RID OF RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
Stop already... Residency is in our State Constitution, That is not up for years.
7/03/2018 10:06:00 PM
Hahahahahahahaha, poor poor baby. Guess growing up in the suburbs you didn’t really know what you were getting into by following your little boy dreams of being the big city police. Graduation day was great right?? All your family from the burbs came in to navy pier to see you in your uniform and now you were THE Chicago Police!! But, it all wore off and little Johnny suburbanite realized that after a year he didn’t wanna be the big city police anymore. Hahahahahahahaha. Too bad. Residency CANT even be discussed in the state house for another 8 years. Also, not a Janice a copper is giving up money for residency. He’ll, they would give up the entire contract just to keep an extra 30 cents a day raise. Dig in Pal, you’re here for a while.
VOTE NO to any kind of concession there is plenty of money in TIF Districts time to abolish them!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
what difference does it make. there is nothing the city can afford to give you.
my guess is eventually you end up with 2 or 3% a year, with back pay checks for the 2 or 3 years it takes to get a contract.
I don't see how the city can afford to do much of anything about retiree health care costs without it coming out of current members back pockets.
7/03/2018 10:20:00 AM
Nonsense. The money was always there.
They just give it to their buddies.
Retro for residency? Not a real choice. One has nothing to do with the other. And the state constitution has nothing to do with it. It's simply unconstitutional if a case made it's way to scotus. But p*ssy hypocrite new fop president says not worth fighting. This isn't about new recruits scared to live in the city, that was a dumb comment. This is about not being forced to live somewhere as a condition for employment. That is just wrong. Truth is you won't lose that many people. It's entirely over blown.
sgt and lt always ride the coat tails of fop
VOTE NO to any kind of concession no 2 tier wages or pension!
Time for an audit of TIF districts?
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