And It Begins....
- Dozens of potential jurors are scheduled to show up at the Leighton Criminal Court Building on Wednesday as the long-awaited trial of Chicago police Officer Jason Van Dyke gets underway, at least in a preliminary way.
Protesters may be out in force outside the courthouse at 26th Street and California Avenue for what could be an anticlimactic first day as the only scheduled business involves the potential jurors filling out a questionnaire in private in advance of jury selection starting up Monday in earnest.
No one knows for sure, but jury selection could take at least a week, perhaps far longer. Judge Vincent Gaughan plans to interview each potential juror individually.
MLB Playoffs start 02 October, and guess who's in the thick of it again? Even two weeks of jury selection pushes the trial right into the middle of it. If it lasts three-to-five weeks, it bumps up against the end of the Championship Series and the beginning of the World Series. Has any of this been taken into consideration? Because we haven't seen word one on a plan.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Baseball....
Big change is coming
baseball AINT in the top 10.
Get ready for spit on your helmet
bottles of piss
random fires
cut squad car tires
and every idiot calling you out saying you aint shit with that badge.
Make sure you and your partner actually talk about what to do when the shit hits the fan.
Cubs win! Cubs win! Cubs win!!!
Twas the night before Chaos
And all thru the city
The parts not so nice
And the ones oh so pretty
Where the critters be lurking
And the snobs all be smirking
As the moment draws near
With a bit of the fear
Of what might be the worst
With a bang and a burst
Yet, when morning arrives
Most will still be alive
And the streets will remain
As they are just the same
To the idiot who keeps claiming McCarthy had an October surprise: does he really, or is it just wishful thinking?
And to the idiots that say our city will fall by the wayside without Rahm tying up power, and everyone falling in line. Have you witnessed the tragedy of what our city has become over the last 7 years? Get your head out of your ass.
It’s a new day in Chicago. Just don’t let Arne Duncan, Luis G or any one of the morons Rahm is tied to be elected.
Fuck you, Rahm.
-Not Baby G
We’ve been seeing the “plan” the last few weekends. “Everyone in uniform, cancel days off and pray for rain”.
Did I miss something? What happened to the request for change of venue? And why, for the love of God is Van Dyke going for a jury trial?
A... plan ????
Cpd don't need no stinkin plan.
We got 1 recruit for every 3 promotrees/retirees.
Plans are for losers.
The trial will devolve into a three ring circus. To be fair to the defendant, there should have been a change of venue to as far from Chicago as it is possible to get and still be within the state.
Maybe these potential jurors should voice their concerns about their safety.
Jury selection will be lucky to be finished in 3 weeks.
Talk about being spread thin-
3 sides to the city:
North Side- World Series
West Side- Rioting
South Side- Rioting
Anyone who was around for the last World Series knows that we had all hands on deck for that thing- even the districts were on extended shifts and days off cancelled.
I can’t even imagine the kind of fuckery this city would pull if there is civil unrest in 2/3 of the city at the same time as a World Series.
God help us.
All of this means I make more money. I love it
In thinking about how the whole JVD thing went down— Rham would not had even been in this situation if he would had tossed JVD under the bus as soon as he could— but he did not have the right people with balls leading the police department... a bunch of yes men who would pass the torch on to people to make a decision. But in the end he set that up, and made his bed. I would love to hear what Escalante would say... but he is busy policing college kids, making sure the did the their homework. McBooze is too drunk to have an opinion. And Kidney Bean was setting up a surgery to remove his balls and insert a fresh kidney. Who can soundly say these fools know how to lead a police department?
Reality maybe, this JVD thing could only occur under a knuckle head like Rham. Given the way CPD is, there is another incident waiting to explode. They next mayor should look for a person who is a sound leader... no yes men.
By the way, I bet my right kidney that Baby Bean goes to a unit, the gets promoted first chance he gets— to the day of his ability to get promoted
Ah yes. Jury selection. Retired now, but was summoned for jury duty several years back, and couldn’t talk my way out of it. Got as far into the process as the questioning of potential jurors before Judge Nicholas Ford at 26 th & cal. Case involved felony UUW arrest by Tact Officers from a south side district. I had testified several times before him, so he was aware of who I was. I also knew several of the assigned ASA’s. Questioning progressed to the potential juror seated to my left who proclaimed she hated the police who put a gun on her brother. I was the next potential juror up and Judge Ford looked at me and with a straight face said well Mr. K, tell us about your self and whether you are familiar with anyone in this courtroom, and whether you can be unbiased in this case. I tried not to laugh as I said my name, identified myself as a police lieutenant, and admitted I knew him, the first chair, and one of the police officers. He kept a straight face and asked the state if they had any objections to my being on the jury, and they said no. Surprisingly the defense didn’t agree, and rules me out for some strange reason, even though I promised to be impartial. Unfortunately, in the present political climate, an active duty supervisor would never get that far into the process, especially ina heater case.
Here is the plan...
Mistrial.
Disaster averted, SJWs declare victory, now get ready to vote.
Does anyone find it strange that there has been no preparation for the upcoming trial starting tomorrow? Best we get is an email informing us that we were trained in field force tactics 5 years ago and to have our gear ready, what gear? helmet and baton is all we have.
No pepperball or anything like that, certs have expired as well as the equipment, rumor has it Swat was asleep at the switch again and have no capability to dispense pepper spray. Hell they even ran out of targets as none of the guys trying out can get any to practice on.
If we were trained in field force 5 years ago how does the new order and use of force apply when in these situations? We are so unprepared it is beyond a joke.
You think there's a plan? Hey, I know we all want to get promoted but let's hold off putting another 200 plus cops in the academy for promotional training and start addressing crowd management training. I don't think this trial has been the subject of ANY plans.
Does anyone find it strange that there has been no preparation for the upcoming trial starting tomorrow? (Preperation H.)
Best we get is an email informing us that we were trained in field force tactics 5 years ago and to have our gear ready, what gear? (Where's the BEEF!!!???!)
helmet and baton is all we have. (Says you.)
No pepperball or anything like that, certs have expired as well as the equipment, rumor has it Swat was asleep at the switch again and have no capability to dispense pepper spray. (We have TACOS!!!!)
Hell they even ran out of targets as none of the guys trying out can get any to practice on. (Duct Tape, the miracle product.)
If we were trained in field force 5 years ago how does the new order and use of force apply when in these situations? (When in doubt, do nothing, ya know, like ya do.)
We are so unprepared it is beyond a joke. (So, no hilarities for you.)
9/05/2018 03:23:00 AM
"Hats & Bats Boys and Girls!" Rahm will be at his home in D C watching on TV. FUCK YOU tiny dancer!
Good luck bicycles.
oh wait the trail is starting. Oh shit! Um ok "Everyone in Uniform"
oh wait "Everyone in Uniform" except OCD,
oh shit "Everyone in Uniform" except homicide detectives
oh shit "Everyone in Uniform" except fugitive unit
oh shit "Everyone in Uniform" except gangs
oh shit "Everyone in Uniform" except auto theft
Wtf let's promote more CPS graduates who are clueless
Let's play a game: name the highest ranking CPD boss who doesn't have a merit promotion
Why is it that these judges and prosecutors think that they can interview anyone and get them to tell the truth, especially in one run at them? It's ridiculous to think that they have such great interviewing skills that their "once a month interviews" will teach them what they need to know.
Did I miss something? What happened to the request for change of venue? And why, for the love of God is Van Dyke going for a jury trial?
9/05/2018 12:37:00 AM
No: Denied: Stall tactic? They can go through the process of jury selection then request a bench trial. I'm also thinking that by interviewing the jury it will show that everyone has heard about the trail and it might help another plea for change of venue.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Here is the plan...
Mistrial.
Disaster averted, SJWs declare victory, now get ready to vote.
9/05/2018 02:35:00 AM
You think a mistrial is fodaster averted? All a mistrial does is cause anarchy in the streets followed by a new trial that starts this shit up all over again.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Did I miss something? What happened to the request for change of venue? And why, for the love of God is Van Dyke going for a jury trial?
9/05/2018 12:37:00 AM
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From what I heard, the judge made it known to JVD and his “brilliant” legal team that they probably wouldn’t like the verdict that the judge had to offer, and they’d best take their chances with a jury.
" Tell the court again Superintendent how YOU and the other 5 Deputies viewed the footage from VanDykes body cam and stated " It was a good shooting " and then the ASA Overcharges him with Murder ? Not Guilty is the only verdict acceptable here Judge !
He will take a bench trial!
nfortunately, in the present political climate, an active duty supervisor would never get that far into the process, especially ina heater case.
9/05/2018 02:07:00 AM
I too, am a retired police officer, spent some time in homicide and retired a lieutenant. I was called for jury selection on a murder case. The judge was a former ASA and recognized me for sure, but said nothing. The prosecution wanted me on the jury, but the defense objected. You would think it would be the other way around, but cops can see through the defense smoke screen. I pray for Van Dyke, not only for his soul, but for his physical and mental well being.
I wouldn't worry about the Cubs and the playoffs. Milwaukee beat them eleven to one last night. They will get in but they won't go far.
The city is preparing they have told all units in OCD not to expect a day off until after the election. Tact teams,sat,Gina and gang teams are getting days off cancelled and all had to have an “inspection” of riot control equipment. There was a test run to mobilize the incident cars in all districts. It’s better than nothing but they have a small force that could be assembled in 2 hrs notice
No AC-130 for over watch duty???
There will be no predicting how long the entire trial will be, but expect last minute fuckery from the department when they have a timeframe of closing arguments/jury deliberation. Thank god for my 10A furlough! I’ll be far away from Chicago ignoring all unknown phone calls
Did Cooter report to jury duty?
PO VanDyke, you and your family are and have been in our thoughts and prayers since this nightmare began.
Continue to stay strong. You will prevail.
Retired, 30+
NATO training was over 5 years ago, many have since retired. There should of been a contingent of newly trained officers for for the upcoming chaos. CPD leadership, meh.
Just get the ISP because they can do what Rahm & Fat Eddie can’t do!
I'm not sure jury selection will be entirely legit. Someone I know showed up for jury duty yesterday at 26th and Cal. They were told it would about a month sequestered at a local hotel. She is a suburban white girl in her early 20's. According to her, she was asked her date of birth, address and then released to go home. She said while she was there, every other white person was also released. Could it be that there was some "pre-screening" of the jury pool?
“Activists” have vowed to be present at courthouse “demanding” “justice”.
The media, politicians and these activists groups have put such their spin on this case that it’ll almost be impossible for VanDyke to get a fair, impartial trial.
That being said I see virtually no chance he’s convicted of First Degtee Murder...... that charge was political to try and placate “the community”.
Brothers and Sisters of CPD:
I wish you well in the rough and choppy waters ahead.
I’m so glad I recently retired.
Anyone who was around for the last World Series knows that we had all hands on deck for that thing- even the districts were on extended shifts and days off cancelled.
I can’t even imagine the kind of fuckery this city would pull if there is civil unrest in 2/3 of the city at the same time as a World Series.
God help us.
Don’t think the World Series will be played in Chicago this year
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Maybe these potential jurors should voice their concerns about their safety.
What concerns? The sheriffs will protect them. Can’t the judge sequester the jury? That would alleviate the worry about their safety
Hey 9/05/2018 12:31:00 AM, you got that right!
Y’all over a thousand of DUTY AVAILABLE compensated House Mice, including Supervisors right down the street at HQ.
There’s nothing, NOTHING - going on that’s of any importance at HQ that needs Uniformed police to occupy cubicles and pigeon holes.
No need to tap the Districts or Units to stand and linger all day at 26th & Cal.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Did I miss something? What happened to the request for change of venue? And why, for the love of God is Van Dyke going for a jury trial?
9/05/2018 12:37:00 AM
You didn’t miss anything. A month ago judge Gaughan stated he wouldn’t rule on the change of venue motion until the jury selection began. Well it’s about to begin and why interview jurors in Cook County in the change of venue is granted and the trial moved outside of Cook County. My guess is the judge is going to deny the change of venue because he is picking a jury
If he was going to grant it, he would have ruled yesterday and there would be no need for a jury selection
Agree with you about the jury trial. Apparently he has already requested a jury trial or they wouldn’t be picking jurors. Only reasons I can see for a jury request is the lawyer is hoping for at least one juror holding out and refusing to convict and the second reason being lawyer doesn’t believe all 12 jurors will agree on a guilty verdict. A hung jury wouldn’t be the worse
Get ready for spit on your helmet
bottles of piss
random fires
cut squad car tires
and every idiot calling you out saying you aint shit with that badge.
Make sure you and your partner actually talk about what to do when the shit hits the fan.
9/05/2018 12:08:00 AM
Speaking from experience you can never plan your actions because every incident is unique and changes every second. You can try and get a handle on a plan, but never works out that way
Let the race begin...start your engine's! !!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the idiot who keeps claiming McCarthy had an October surprise: does he really, or is it just wishful thinking?
And to the idiots that say our city will fall by the wayside without Rahm tying up power, and everyone falling in line. Have you witnessed the tragedy of what our city has become over the last 7 years? Get your head out of your ass.
It’s a new day in Chicago. Just don’t let Arne Duncan, Luis G or any one of the morons Rahm is tied to be elected.
Not choosing sides and it could improve, but there’s always the possibility it could get a lot worse
Ever happen on the CPD and does that sound familar
Cubs won't make it past the NLCS. So we've got that going for the city.
Whatever happened to scheduling trials like this for winter, to make it as difficult as possible to riot after the verdict?
Look at the last murder trial of on-duty CPD officers - the death occurred in July, 1980, the three cops involved were indicted for murder in late July, but the trial was delayed until December, 1981. One cop was acquitted, two were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, and there was no riot.
MLB will move any playoff or World Series Game if there is civil unrest. That will free up all those resources needed at Wrigley. Unlike the City, big business have plans in place.
With our dishonest fake Chicago media along with the cnn liars you can expect as they keep lighting the wick the explosion will be massive, Chicago will burn and the pos reporters who have been piling on will get a Pulitzer Prize! God bless Jason and officers everywhere stuck in this shit situation, thanks Cpd bosses for throwing every copper under the bus because you cowards changed your paperwork, you caused this also, including the quickly retired exempt ranks getting that underserved 6 figure pension, hoping Herbert grills every last 1 of them on the stand, and makes rahm take it also.
Ahh Gary now again when did rahm see video? Why are you frightened Gary?
Nothing is going to happen after the trial, you want to know why because he’s probably getting 20 yrs in prison
JVD definitely deserves a change of venue. If the trial continues as is, and a guilty verdict is read, the defense will say it wasn't fair due to no change of venue. However, its likely it will still be a guilty verdict even if this case was tried out of state.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
He will take a bench trial!
9/05/2018 06:53:00
Then why are they picking a jury pool? What they spend two
weeks picking a jury and then he says he wants a bench trial. Makes no sense Think you are way off on this
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why is it that these judges and prosecutors think that they can interview anyone and get them to tell the truth, especially in one run at them? It's ridiculous to think that they have such great interviewing skills that their "once a month interviews" will teach them what they need to know.
If VanDyke is going with a jury, he better spend plenty of money on an expert that aids in the selection of the jury. They rely on jury consultants who are human behavior experts, helping attorneys research and select jurors and provide ... Worth every penny. Lawyers might know the law but they are not behavioral experts
This jury needs to be sequestered if he is going to get a fair trial
It will be a bench trail this is for show bench trail not guilty
What ? Did the judg e give the defendant a heads up that he would find him guilty even without hearing a trial ? What kind of fair judicial move is that ?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-chicago-police-consent-decree-gun-pointing-20180905-story,amp.html?__twitter_impression=true
The best he can hope for is a mistrial.
Whatever happened to scheduling trials like this for winter, to make it as difficult as possible to riot after the verdict?
Look at the last murder trial of on-duty CPD officers - the death occurred in July, 1980, the three cops involved were indicted for murder in late July, but the trial was delayed until December, 1981. One cop was acquitted, two were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, and there was no riot.
Apples and oranges. Why even mention a case from 37 years ago. Totally different times, attitudes towards the police and attitude of the citizens. No comparison
9/05/2018 08:24:00 AM
Anonymous said...
NATO training was over 5 years ago, many have since retired. There should of been a contingent of newly trained officers for for the upcoming chaos. CPD leadership, meh.
9/05/2018 08:29:00 AM
I've been on the job for 5 years. I've never received a mask. Haven't been trained or fitted for one.
I got 1 word for you. Mistrial. Bet on it.
He is toast.
If I'm not mistaken. Wheres the Sheriffs Dept stand in all this ? Those Court Deputies are so old and short handed. How about using the jail guys. I see them out and about. They look gungho enough. Lets use them
Don’t worry the bikes will handle the protest just leave the outside units out there not trained enough to deal with protesters
My prayers to all Officers Stay Safe!
Will VanDyke get a fair trial inside while a lynch-mob is waiting outside?
AC-130? You're gonna need an AC-5A . . .
Don’t be a bunch of sallies! How about a bull s championship during Puerto Rican fest? Now, that’s entertainment!
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