Lack of Outrage
- A toddler fatally shot Saturday night in the Hermosa neighborhood on the Northwest Side has the grim distinction of being the youngest person to be killed by gun violence in the city this year.
At 10:17 p.m., 2-year-old Julien Gonzalez and an 18-year-old man were standing near an alley in the 2200 block of North Kilbourn Avenue when shots were fired from the street’s end, according to Chicago police and the Cook County medical examiner’s office.
Just before the shooting, two females were fighting in the alley between Kilbourn and Kenneth avenues when the shots were fired in their direction, police said.
Remember, police are the problem.
UPDATE: A protest.
And once again, gang-vs-gang violence claims an innocent, with no one coming forward (yet).
UPDATE: A protest.
And once again, gang-vs-gang violence claims an innocent, with no one coming forward (yet).
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
123 Comments:
When my children were 2 years old they were in bed long before 10:00.
OT: Perhaps this could be its own subject.
This is a good read. We don't all need to be CIT trained to show some restraint and compassion. Something to consider when dealing with people with mental illness.
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45739335
Where is Ramiro cry crocodile tears??? Oh yeah I almost forgot— for Ram to shed tears, person killed must have a rap sheet and likely Hood they would had shot someone in the near future also
Nice neighborhood... 50 years ago.
To be fair the Hispanic community doesn’t complain about the police being the problem in their communities
poor kid , dangerous city.
A two year old out at that time, Just like Daddy.
Dad was a real jerk, blamed the police for 5he whole thing, then started gangbangin on scene.
Protests? Protests? That's what I thought...crickets.
How about the infant baby that flew out the car in crash in 007?
No worries.
They're still reproducing faster than they're checking out.
Yes, I am that callous.
2 years old + 10PM + Alley = Darwin at work.
Waiting to hear from the rev-rearends, Fony Pfather Flager, Msh mouth Jackson, community activists, community mis-leaders, and other assorted do-gooders. Where are the marches, protests, picketing of homes, harassing at restaurants, etc? I guess we'll have to wait awhile.
I'm just glad that that Van Dyke character is off the streets. Now I can feel free to use PCP and run around with a knife and can commit robbery without getting rightfully shot.
No Police involved...
No Ghetto Lottery...
No outrage...
Keep the line moving...
Typical ghetto mentality...
We Are All Replaceable...
Police are the problem at least media again stirring up the narrative:
How it took two weeks for a shooting victim to get the attention of Chicago police
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-unsolved-shootings-20180925-story.html
Excerpt:
Department records show that, on the night of the shooting, Harrison District officers responded to a call of shots near where Williams was shot. But when they arrived, they couldn’t find any victim, Guglielmi said.
Asked why her friend or boyfriend didn’t call 911, Williams said she believes they were overwhelmed by the shooting and were focused on getting to the hospital.
*so police responded to a call as we do every second no victim no caller wtf are police supposed to do assholes? Again and again painting the we hate the police narrative so sick of democratic inspired media your a total disgrace to society! When President Trump started the dishonest fake media and when he points at you when he is talking and saying all the bad things lies you do he is correct!
2 yr old out at 1017pm. Enough said.
I'm sure all the young white assholes will be out protesting and horrified by this. My fucking ass !
But there is outrage.
But towards CPD. Seems radical groups blame the police for the violence
There’s no shakedown/ payout or political wrangling in hoodrats shooting at hoodrats.
Where’s the outrage? Where are the protests? Where are....
Oh, never mind. Silly me.
O.T Any one heard if Chico is gonna resind the residency requirement if he gets elected like he was offering last time he ran ?
Wait...why was a two-year old out there at that hour anyway? This whole thing is so wrong in so many ways. Basic problem with some folks IMHO is no conflict resolution skills at all. Just pull out a weapon and use it . Maybe a new course in school ?
I don't think Kim Folks cares about Hispanics. Still, always keep VD in mind when you hit the streets. It's not worth it. They will feed you to the hogs.
A lack of outrage is because people have become numb to the constant shootings.
Not a good attitude but, "Hey! It's Chicago. Expect it."
Morale is down on the police force and I think the "Ferguson Effect" will be replaced with the "Chicago Effect".
Chicago Effect? More and more shootings with less and less police intervention or any involvement. Who cares anymore?
Hopefully, whoever wins as Mayor comes in and replaces Johnson with a real "law-and-order" Superintendent BUT that is unlikely to happen because you have all these outside influencers.
This rudderless leadership is the result of years of clout promoting the wrong people into critical positions. Command staff is riddled with "personalities" and special "egos" with weird character traits.
It won't be just replacing the Superintendent to get CPD on the right track again. Real results will depend on tearing out all the Merit Hacks which again is unlikely.
Meh. Souless media and parents don’t care. I learning to feel nothing.
Why in the he'll is a two year old o on a street corner at 1025pm?
Why was the 2 yr old still up at 10 pm????
There is no outrage. Only when a police officer is involved trying to keep law and order with the 8th grade graduates.
BLM, revs, and all the left wing groups are mum. When they want to extort money they gather and lock arms down the Dan Ryan.
I really have been wondering why this hasnt gotten more attention on the news. The article I read in the Tribune implied that the YLO D's were shooting at the MLD's. I grew up in this area in the 1970s and early 80s. This was actually a a Gaylord neighborhood back then when the hispanics were east of Pulaski.
Lets have the FOP have a press conference to put out a monetary award for info on the murder of the 2yr Old. Since Its not a gang banging burglar and druggie nobody care. Where are the reverends now?
At 10:17 p.m., 2-year-old Julien Gonzalez and an 18-year-old man were standing near an alley in the 2200 block of North Kilbourn Avenue when shots were fired from the street’s end, according to Chicago police and the Cook County medical examiner’s office.
So in other words, Lil' bit was holding down the set with his 18 year old homie when...
A 2 year old out at 10:30 pm. Some people shouldn’t be parents at all.
I just read the article...”water your lawn.”
LOL!!!!! Ha ha!!!
What in the Fuck is a two year old doing out at 10 o'clock at night anyway ? No doubt the 18 year old that had this baby boy out in the streets is a gang banging fucking Savage that cost this kid his life! Why is this POS not being charged with child endangerment among other charges ?
I guess since the mayor isn't running for re-election he did'nt have a "news camera" following him the the childs house and hold a press conference while he is crying..This shows "excactly" what type of person this mayor is,keep voting the same(democrat) and the next democrat will pull the wool over your eyes with there BS....
Fantastic! The first person shot after the JVD decision induced lull in killings was a toddler. From the story, it looked like a couple of ladies were fighting, which to me sounds like a great time and reason to spray bullets into a crowd of rival gang members.
No outage because it was the wrong ethnicity and no possibility of that sweet sweet City of a Chicago check for your grievances.
And I need to blame the parents of this child on this one. Want to improve your chances and your child’s chances of living? Oh wait. Stupid question. You don’t! I was about to waste thinking power on the fortunes of shitheads.
Let’s see how the Superintendent embarrasses us at IACP
This is what liberalism breeds:
https://www.wral.com/life-on-the-dirtiest-block-in-san-francisco/17900648/
One issue does not negate another. There are many issue in Chicago, don't be blind.
Again like 750 homicides no money to be made because the police aren't involved.
The best are the kids riding big wheels at 3 in the morning!
Just another day in a sanctuary city.
Not to worry. The NFL Kneelers have this under control.
Can you imagine the shit show that would be happening if the kid was shot by the police?!
Barely covered by the media. SCC let the public know how many kids 16 years old and younger that have been shot in Chicago in the past 2 years. The media just pretends it doesn't happen.
They’re spent from dancing in the streets over the VanDyke verdict.
Priorities .. ya know.
"When my children were 2 years old they were in bed long before 10:00."
This exactly. What you're not taking in to account is that you're operating from a normal, healthy mindset; these folks and/or people are operating from an IDGAF mindset, which unfortunately trickles right down to how they (don't) raise their offspring. Those kids don't stand a chance.
A Phoenix AZ, police officer has been injured in an officer-involved shooting on Monday morning, and police are searching for two suspects.
Sgt. Vince Lewis said the officer suffered "road rash" while attempting to make a traffic stop, and that the officer is expected to recover.
please be careful out there
Another article stated the baby was from 5500 West 63rd Place, also stated Maniac Disciples at party.
Retired
OT a bit but today is Jesse, Sr's 77th birthday. Should we not have sent him something?
Anonymous said...
To be fair the Hispanic community doesn’t complain about the police being the problem in their communities
10/08/2018 12:21:00 AM
What planet are you living on? In the 010th district there was a shooting last year. Someone posted on Facebook that the police shot someone without justification. All hell broke loose.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Nice neighborhood... 50 years ago.
10/08/2018 12:18:00 AM
Nope. Graduated from St. Philomena 1970. Neighborhood was on borrowed time back then.
"But... But!
>Exasperated Sigh!<
We THOUGHT that the long awaited
Police Reforms was going to STOP
all the "gun violence" here in
Chicago because we always felt
that it was The Police who were
the problem! Why isn't it working
yet?"
...You SILLY adult children liberal democrats,
Alinskyite progressives and white-guilt addled
SJWs are going to reap the awful awful end
results of your energetically pursued war
against The Police.
Bunch of self-soiling surrender monkeys
too cowardly to have this fight against
"The Community" because "The Community"
has no compelling rules to abide by so
you take joy in taking it hard to The
Police who despite your feverishly held
notions, overwhelmingly abide by the rules.
Nothing like a bunch of mis-mothered/dis-fathered,
un-manned/unmanly, soft-headed/tender-hearted,
wholly misguided people dictating terms of
surrender to those who are actually in the arena.
"What you do is too ugly for us to handle..."
Ok...
What say you when "Ugly" comes scampering through
your bedroom window at dark-m/fin' thirty in the
morning and stands over while you scream and shit
your bed?
Of course when "The Police" heed your screams
and arrive to do what is necessary to stop
"Ugly" you adult children have the audacity
to quibble about how it's done.
"The Cops were TOO MEAN, TOO MANLY, TOO AGGRESSIVE,
TOO COMBATIVE! THEY HIT TOO HARD AND DRIVE TOO FAST!
WAAAAHHHH! Couldn't they have been nicer about it?
We've been triggered and want to go to our safe space
away from THEM!"
Enjoy the "Ugly" you desperately wished for...
As for The Police?
Protect yourselves from THEM no matter what
and at all costs.
Their joy is in seeing you and your families
ruined for the acts/actions of a few.
"You Cops are FINALLY gonna get it!"
Yeah... WE got it alright...
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Last Updated Oct 8, 2018 3:04 PM EDT
President Trump touted the "stop and frisk" policy in a speech Monday to the International Association of Chief of Police Annual Convention in Orlando, saying it's a policy that works and was meant for places like Chicago.
The president, who regularly brings up Chicago when talking about crime, said that city should strongly consider the controversial "stop and frisk" policy used when his lawyer Rudy Giuliani was mayor of New York city.
"I have directed the attorney general's office to immediately go to the great city of Chicago to help straighten out the terrible shooting wave. I'm going to straighten it out and straighten it out fast," Mr. Trump said. "There's no reason for what's going on there. I've told them to work with local authorities to try to change the terrible deal the city of Chicago entered into with ACLU, which ties law enforcement's hands and to strongly consider stop and frisk. It works and it was meant for problems like Chicago. It was meant for it. Stop and frisk."
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-delivers-remarks-at-chiefs-of-police-annual-convention-live-stream/
Don't worry, Tony will lock down the beat and restrict their every movement and then do a useless seatbelt mission there, because these are the answers fro a shooting that was not gonna be stopped in the first place. Thank God some of the Sergeants see through this BS and handle it appropriately.
It sucks working in 025 under the current Commander. Expect for him to demand that house parties be scoped out and shut down. Escamerit is such a stroke. If he went to a strip club his idea of making it rain would be to throw a bunch of blue cards in the air over the exotic dancer. Then he'd ask for her info so he could get someone to do an ISR.
I'm just glad that that Van Dyke character is off the streets. Now I can feel free to use PCP and run around with a knife and can commit robbery without getting rightfully shot.
10/08/2018 01:57:00 AM
#MeToo!!!! Let's get the party started!
GANGGANGGANGGANG
This story has received limited media coverage and that coverage is dying real fast. What about the 6month old baby shot a few weeks ago?
Like Elvis sang: in the ghetto...
Well, we can't really confront that gunman, because we might have yo shoot him, and that would be too excessive!
OT: Perhaps this could be its own subject.
This is a good read. We don't all need to be CIT trained to show some restraint and compassion. Something to consider when dealing with people with mental illness.
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45739335
Fuck that. If they’re mentally ill, call someone else. I’m not a psychologist. I’m the police. Don’t call me if your car isn’t running. I’m not a mechanic. Don’t call me if your furnace isn’t working. I’m not a HVAC guy. JVD, Rialmo both had to deal with mentals. One is in jail, the other is gonna lose his job. The incident in 015 were the nutbag (high on god knows what) was bouncing the female copper’s head on the street and she didn’t shoot because she didn’t want to be the next viral video....no good comes from it for the police. Let the mental health professionals deal with it, the the social workers deal with it, let their families deal with it, let the rev’runs, the SJW’s, the media, the community, or the politicians deal with it. Compassion went out the window for me a long time ago. No one gives a flying rats ass about us. It’s been Us vs Them for a long time and I’m fucking done with “Them”.
That just shows you how backwards this whole libtarded city is. Media frenzy over a PCP fueled mental with a knife who was stopped before he could hurt anyone. 30 secs of coverage on a two year old shot over gang bs.
Ain’t nobody seent nuffin.
Lo Energy Special Ed will be announcing he’s sending in a team 40 detectives to interview one (1) witness who “heard shots from over there” and the Merit DC to hold a daylight roll call too.
We’ll show them we ain’t playin when we put a case on them.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: Perhaps this could be its own subject.
This is a good read. We don't all need to be CIT trained to show some restraint and compassion. Something to consider when dealing with people with mental illness.
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45739335
10/08/2018 12:08:00 AM
There is no doubt in my mind that you are not a police officer and have never dealt with any situation involving somebody having an unpredictable mental health crisis.
Why doesnt the union organize a petition for a possible Pardon for Ofc. Jason VanDyke.
Ask the Folks at 132nd and Prairie if BLM ?
What was the kid doing in the alley?
One issue does not negate another. There are many issue in Chicago, don't be blind.
10/08/2018 10:21:00 AM
Many issues negate many other issues.
The "issue" of false belief in wanton brutalities being committed by Law Enforcement Officers negates the "issue" of degenerate politicians ignoring the wanton brutalities committed by their democrat voting rabble minions.
Your post negates your honesty.
Go piss out the window of your north shore condo, the wind is blowing in your direction.
OT: I don’t know what you crybabies are crying about. I’ve been a sergeant for 10 years (I didn’t get promoted to lieutenant because I didn’t want it) and have no absolutely no C.R. numbers (so you know I worked in the ghetto). The Van Dyke incident was entirely a bad shoot…period. Just read the Use of Force Model. Um, I mean the New Use of Force Model…or whatever the hell else the legal department will replace the Use of Force Model with next period. I’ve been on the job a long time and that old saying still holds true: just follow the General Orders and you got nothing to worry about. Go ahead…read GO 03-02 and the Use of Force Model in your FOP book, I’ll be here and I got plenty of time (I’m a sergeant in a unit). Read the Illinois Criminal Statues 720 ILCS 5/12-4 and 720 ILCS 5/9-2 too. Murderers in Cook County get charged with Murder and Aggravated Battery from the same incident all the time. Nothing has changed in the last 20 years so quit bitching. I still live on the South-Side, worked in the 8th District and things have only gotten better. You guys got to act smarter. Forget about the guns and learn “verbal judo” and “de-escalation”. It always works. Ask me how I know. None of the bad guys in Chicago use body armor or use high-capacity semi-automatic weapons. I still use the revolver I bought off a retired copper. Just ask any range guy or tactical trainer and they will agree with me and tell you that’s good enough for this job. I’m totally safe and a set a great example for younger officers and spend my uniform allowance (that the FOP fought for) on other things besides stupid uniforms and gear. Not doing the job is not an option either. Just look at the 8th District coppers who didn’t respond to the scene that night. Everybody knows their names now and boy…are they in a lot of trouble! I’m retiring in January and when I accept my award at the Christmas party next year morale will have improved, Van Dyke won’t be on the minds of coppers facing a lethal threat and we will have a pro-police mayor in City Hall. So stop being a crybaby…friggin crybabies.
The Tool of 86-3
Fuck that. If they’re mentally ill, call someone else. I’m not a psychologist. I’m the police. Don’t call me if your car isn’t running. I’m not a mechanic. Don’t call me if your furnace isn’t working. I’m not a HVAC guy. JVD, Rialmo both had to deal with mentals. One is in jail, the other is gonna lose his job. The incident in 015 were the nutbag (high on god knows what) was bouncing the female copper’s head on the street and she didn’t shoot because she didn’t want to be the next viral video....no good comes from it for the police. Let the mental health professionals deal with it, the the social workers deal with it, let their families deal with it, let the rev’runs, the SJW’s, the media, the community, or the politicians deal with it. Compassion went out the window for me a long time ago. No one gives a flying rats ass about us. It’s been Us vs Them for a long time and I’m fucking done with “Them”.
"AMEN" Your absolutely right..I'm sick of it too. We are not Dr.'s , let a specialist deal with it..these mental calls should be sent to CFD who specifically have a Therapist or DR riding with the ambulances for those type of calls. Sick of dealing with others mental BS
OT, but why is Dan Herbert all over TV and radio today? Looked like crap on WGN. Talked like a moron ......it's "stronger" or "strongly" Dan.
but it is never "more strong." Making us all look stupider, or is it more stupid? Thanks.
OT again, don't you think tht predicting JVD will get the 6 year at 50% minimum will piss off Gaughn? Seriously, he already seems to dislike Dan Herbert. Why egg him on?
State's Attorney Joe McMahon makes me ill. Remember this bald-headed asshole McMahon when he runs for higher office and expects to be elected because he stuck it to JVD. Fuck you Joe McMahon.
A 2 year old out at 10:30 pm. Some people shouldn’t be parents at all.
Gee, mama aint goin to be getting a check anymore...so sad. Thats ok, ill just have anutter!
Ask the people in Rogers Park, Pullman and Altgeld Gardens if they want stop and frisk.
9.5 and the ACLU do not want it because it will deteriorate community relations. A mayor with his head in the sand and a horseshit organization with no skin in the game. The people will continue being murdered and the bodies will continue being trucked to the morgue.
Fuck you 9.5 and fuck the ACLU.
The mentally deficient Chicago media is too busy doing jerkoff articles on players involved in the VanDyke railroad job. The Special Prosecutor from Kane County is now an All-Star! And an article about the father and son that half witnessed the shooting and how they felt that they just had to speak up for what they thought was the right thing to do! Honestly, you would think that VanDyke was the Oklahoma Bomber the way the media is covering his post guilty verdict. But when a 2 year old gets shot in the neck by a gangbanger? Eh, it's Chicago. Stuff like that happens.
Good God, when my kids were babies, they were in bed at 7:00 pm like they were supposed to be! No Father Faker? No Jessie Jackass?
Come on now, where is the outrage? Who is saying anything about this little one? Nothing! Sickening!
OT: Fuck the Sun Times...they couldn't wait to publish that full page front page mugshot. fuckyou. can't wait to see you jagoffs put up the out of business sign.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
O.T Any one heard if Chico is gonna resind the residency requirement if he gets elected like he was offering last time he ran ?
10/08/2018 07:52:00 AM
If he does this city will be even more fucked than it is now.
OT: Perhaps this could be its own subject.
This is a good read. We don't all need to be CIT trained to show some restraint and compassion. Something to consider when dealing with people with mental illness.
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45739335
Cops have plenty of compassion and restraint - if they didn't there'd be a lot more videos of assholes getting their heads caved in.
Compassion is given when it's due - elderly person who needs some assistance (and isn't the neighborhood asshole). Some little kid (who's not the neighborhood Yummy POS) that is lost, or out wandering at 3AM - copper puts the kiddo in the car to keep him warm while waiting for an ambulance.
But on the flip side - unbridled compassion can get you killed because you have your guard down, so it's gotta be tempered with a very healthy dose of "head on a swivel", situational awareness. Too many instances of too many lying, cheating, savage J/O's out there playing the "crying" or "i cain't breathe!" bullshit to get a copper into a situation where he becomes the victim to some demented game. Fuq dat - cops got families they'd like to go home to.
So some fucking bouncing down the street, yelling at the moon, walking on the sidewalk w/o pants mental case needs something? Grrrreeeeeeaaaat! Call the guys in the white coats who have R.N, M.D, M.S., or PhD after their name and let THEM handle it. Cops are there to handle the law enforcement stuff - not the medical stuff. Even no outward signs of mental illness? Fambily claims that ole girl is having a breakdown? Fuck it - call a MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL. Then that person can call the cops if the patient doesn't want to cooperate and needs to be arrested.
Addict flipping around from an OD? Call a paramedic - all the copper needs to do is to keep the scene clear so the EMTs can do their job, and so no other dope fiends steal the dope from the one leaving this world.
Oh, and look at the source - BBC - fucking UK took the guns away from their street cops entirely, they're lucky they let them have batons to fend off the criminals who have guns and giant knives (yeah, the ole UK has a "turn in your knives" boxes now too).
Was the desk crew at 005 cheering?
I am very honored that President Donald Trump has an interest in the CPD. He has offered to assist Chicago and speaks to us better than most police supervisors. To me this is a big thank you. This is the head boss that takes the time to voluntarily say the right things.
Thank You President Trump.
The best President of my lifetime and possibly the greatest one day.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: Perhaps this could be its own subject.
This is a good read. We don't all need to be CIT trained to show some restraint and compassion. Something to consider when dealing with people with mental illness.
https://www.bbc.com/news/stories-45739335
Fuck that. If they’re mentally ill, call someone else. I’m not a psychologist. I’m the police. Don’t call me if your car isn’t running. I’m not a mechanic. Don’t call me if your furnace isn’t working. I’m not a HVAC guy. JVD, Rialmo both had to deal with mentals. One is in jail, the other is gonna lose his job. The incident in 015 were the nutbag (high on god knows what) was bouncing the female copper’s head on the street and she didn’t shoot because she didn’t want to be the next viral video....no good comes from it for the police. Let the mental health professionals deal with it, the the social workers deal with it, let their families deal with it, let the rev’runs, the SJW’s, the media, the community, or the politicians deal with it. Compassion went out the window for me a long time ago. No one gives a flying rats ass about us. It’s been Us vs Them for a long time and I’m fucking done with “Them”.
10/08/2018 03:16:00 PM
10-99 brother
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT, but why is Dan Herbert all over TV and radio today? Looked like crap on WGN. Talked like a moron ......it's "stronger" or "strongly" Dan.
but it is never "more strong." Making us all look stupider, or is it more stupid? Thanks.
OT again, don't you think tht predicting JVD will get the 6 year at 50% minimum will piss off Gaughn? Seriously, he already seems to dislike Dan Herbert. Why egg him on?
10/08/2018 06:11:00 PM
Time for us to demand that FOP cut ties with this ego maniac.
AHAH! So this happened at 10:17 PM. That pretty much sums up the entire news story. 2 yo out hanging in the alley at half past 10.
Anonymous said...
I don't think Kim Folks cares about Hispanics. Still, always keep VD in mind when you hit the streets. It's not worth it. They will feed you to the hogs.
10/08/2018 07:56:00 AM
Wait until Kwame gets in it gets better!
What will Douche Nozzle Dahleen have to say about this, who will she pin the blame on this time?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Was the desk crew at 005 cheering?
10/08/2018 08:02:00 PM
Yes.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
O.T Any one heard if Chico is gonna resind the residency requirement if he gets elected like he was offering last time he ran ?
10/08/2018 07:52:00 AM
And you would believe him?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
O.T Any one heard if Chico is gonna resind the residency requirement if he gets elected like he was offering last time he ran ?
10/08/2018 07:52:00 AM
I'll be beleevin that when me shyte turns purple and tastes like rainbow sherbet.
See a person yelling , walking with s knife.
Not a crime , keep on moving , do not become his victim 19-p or 19-B
Anonymous Lionel Hutz said...
OT: I don’t know what you crybabies are crying about. I’ve been a sergeant for 10 years (I didn’t get promoted to lieutenant because I didn’t want it) and have no absolutely no C.R. numbers (so you know I worked in the ghetto). The Van Dyke incident was entirely a bad shoot…period. Just read the Use of Force Model. Um, I mean the New Use of Force Model…or whatever the hell else the legal department will replace the Use of Force Model with next period. I’ve been on the job a long time and that old saying still holds true: just follow the General Orders and you got nothing to worry about. Go ahead…read GO 03-02 and the Use of Force Model in your FOP book, I’ll be here and I got plenty of time (I’m a sergeant in a unit). Read the Illinois Criminal Statues 720 ILCS 5/12-4 and 720 ILCS 5/9-2 too. Murderers in Cook County get charged with Murder and Aggravated Battery from the same incident all the time. Nothing has changed in the last 20 years so quit bitching. I still live on the South-Side, worked in the 8th District and things have only gotten better. You guys got to act smarter. Forget about the guns and learn “verbal judo” and “de-escalation”. It always works. Ask me how I know. None of the bad guys in Chicago use body armor or use high-capacity semi-automatic weapons. I still use the revolver I bought off a retired copper. Just ask any range guy or tactical trainer and they will agree with me and tell you that’s good enough for this job. I’m totally safe and a set a great example for younger officers and spend my uniform allowance (that the FOP fought for) on other things besides stupid uniforms and gear. Not doing the job is not an option either. Just look at the 8th District coppers who didn’t respond to the scene that night. Everybody knows their names now and boy…are they in a lot of trouble! I’m retiring in January and when I accept my award at the Christmas party next year morale will have improved, Van Dyke won’t be on the minds of coppers facing a lethal threat and we will have a pro-police mayor in City Hall. So stop being a crybaby…friggin crybabies.
The Tool of 86-3
Everybody knows their names now and boy are they in a lot of trouble. Really , what trouble are they in?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT, but why is Dan Herbert all over TV and radio today? Looked like crap on WGN. Talked like a moron ......it's "stronger" or "strongly" Dan.
but it is never "more strong." Making us all look stupider, or is it more stupid? Thanks.
OT again, don't you think tht predicting JVD will get the 6 year at 50% minimum will piss off Gaughn? Seriously, he already seems to dislike Dan Herbert. Why egg him on
He also said now he can move on with his life He’s facing a possible long prison sentence and he keeps repeating that. Move on with your life?
The professional paid protesters limit their hours to 39 per week. They don’t want a full time job! May jeopardize the government handouts.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It sucks working in 025 under the current Commander. Expect for him to demand that house parties be scoped out and shut down. Escamerit is such a stroke. If he went to a strip club his idea of making it rain would be to throw a bunch of blue cards in the air over the exotic dancer. Then he'd ask for her info so he could get someone to do an ISR.
10/08/2018 02:23:00 PM
Ok this was gold LOL
-025 1st watch
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ask the people in Rogers Park, Pullman and Altgeld Gardens if they want stop and frisk.
9.5 and the ACLU do not want it because it will deteriorate community relations. A mayor with his head in the sand and a horseshit organization with no skin in the game. The people will continue being murdered and the bodies will continue being trucked to the morgue.
Fuck you 9.5 and fuck the ACLU.
10/08/2018 06:20:00 PM
Who the fuck does the ACLU think they are? What right do they have to tell the PD what to do. The voters tell the mayor what they want and he tells the Chief.... No one elected the ACLU to anything.... That's the way it should work....otherwise everyone is spinning their wheels...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
O.T Any one heard if Chico is gonna resind the residency requirement if he gets elected like he was offering last time he ran ?
10/08/2018 07:52:00 AM
If he does this city will be even more fucked than it is now.
10/08/2018 07:36:00 PM
Who cares I can watch it burn from my beautiful house in the suburbs if that happened.
And before you say “but your property value” I don’t give a fuck better schools less crime less liberal bullshit makes it worth it.
OT
Swat Follies continues
Three part series coming out on SWAT or NOT
Focusing on:
1) Lack of resources and capabilities
2) Merit leadership
3) Bogus Overtime
4) Ghost Payroll Training Sgt
5) Hostage being killed by SWAT
6) Systemic Racism (Swat Hiring)
7) Negligence during training
8) Incomsistent Training
9) Lawsuit against City of Chicago
10) One part devoted to a Sgt ML and his past incidents of Domestic CRs and harrassment.
35th street is pissed. Some serious changes coming to SWAT.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Fuck that. If they’re mentally ill, call someone else. I’m not a psychologist. I’m the police. Don’t call me if your car isn’t running. I’m not a mechanic. Don’t call me if your furnace isn’t working. I’m not a HVAC guy. JVD, Rialmo both had to deal with mentals. One is in jail, the other is gonna lose his job. The incident in 015 were the nutbag (high on god knows what) was bouncing the female copper’s head on the street and she didn’t shoot because she didn’t want to be the next viral video....no good comes from it for the police. Let the mental health professionals deal with it, the the social workers deal with it, let their families deal with it, let the rev’runs, the SJW’s, the media, the community, or the politicians deal with it. Compassion went out the window for me a long time ago. No one gives a flying rats ass about us. It’s been Us vs Them for a long time and I’m fucking done with “Them”.
"AMEN" Your absolutely right..I'm sick of it too. We are not Dr.'s , let a specialist deal with it..these mental calls should be sent to CFD who specifically have a Therapist or DR riding with the ambulances for those type of calls. Sick of dealing with others mental BS
10/08/2018 06:11:00 PM
Just think of all the hospitals which have gotten rid of their mental wards in the past 10 years.....they don't want them either....taxpayers money7 should support the mental hospitals not the baby breeders..
O.T Any one heard if Chico is gonna resind the residency requirement if he gets elected like he was offering last time he ran ?
10/08/2018 07:52:00 AM
If he does this city will be even more fucked than it is now.
************
Obviously another selfish ASSHOLE worried about his property value while we're all trapped in this shithole! Get over it, residency rules are out-dated!!
Trump Just did A Pro Police Speech that was Great.
Some boneheaded community peace activist said that the shooter had to get down low in order to shoot a small child.
T: I don’t know what you crybabies are crying about. I’ve been a sergeant for 10 years (I didn’t get promoted to lieutenant because I didn’t want it) and have no absolutely no C.R. numbers (so you know I worked in the ghetto). The Van Dyke incident was entirely a bad shoot…period. Just read the Use of Force Model. Um, I mean the New Use of Force Model…or whatever the hell else the legal department will replace the Use of Force Model with next period. I’ve been on the job a long time and that old saying still holds true: just follow the General Orders and you got nothing to worry about. Go ahead…read GO 03-02 and the Use of Force Model in your FOP book, I’ll be here and I got plenty of time (I’m a sergeant in a unit). Read the Illinois Criminal Statues 720 ILCS 5/12-4 and 720 ILCS 5/9-2 too. Murderers in Cook County get charged with Murder and Aggravated Battery from the same incident all the time. Nothing has changed in the last 20 years so quit bitching. I still live on the South-Side, worked in the 8th District and things have only gotten better. You guys got to act smarter. Forget about the guns and learn “verbal judo” and “de-escalation”. It always works. Ask me how I know. None of the bad guys in Chicago use body armor or use high-capacity semi-automatic weapons. I still use the revolver I bought off a retired copper. Just ask any range guy or tactical trainer and they will agree with me and tell you that’s good enough for this job. I’m totally safe and a set a great example for younger officers and spend my uniform allowance (that the FOP fought for) on other things besides stupid uniforms and gear. Not doing the job is not an option either. Just look at the 8th District coppers who didn’t respond to the scene that night. Everybody knows their names now and boy…are they in a lot of trouble! I’m retiring in January and when I accept my award at the Christmas party next year morale will have improved, Van Dyke won’t be on the minds of coppers facing a lethal threat and we will have a pro-police mayor in City Hall. So stop being a crybaby…friggin crybabies.
The Tool of 86-3
MY God...YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT...go take your fucking white merit do nothing shirt and cram it up your ass! You must be a cry bb too, I didn't make LT...probably cause your an idiot.
Are you sure that the kid wasn't killed by a ricochet from the JVD shooting? Look for some scum lawyer to try and blame the Police one way or another. Kid out when he should have been in bead, hanging with some piece of shit ok with mom. But it's the police that don't care? More than one person knows who fired the shots. But don't hold your breath waiting for them to do the right thing. It's going to get worse before it gets better. So sitting in the car makes more sense than trying to deal with people that have mental problems. If all else fails and you do have to soot someone to protect the public or yourself shoot once or twice. That way you will only be charged with aggravated battery once or twice.
MY God...YOU ARE A FUCKING IDIOT...go take your fucking white merit do nothing shirt and cram it up your ass! You must be a cry bb too, I didn't make LT...probably cause your an idiot.
10/09/2018 04:05:00 AM
For. Fucks. Sake.
Does every fucking sarcastic comment have to fed to you like baby food?
Or do ypu really think there is anything amusing about pretending to not see the glaring sarcasms imbedded fucking everywhere throughout the comment you qouted?
Geez, louise, buy a sense of humor, ya cheapskate!!!!!!!
Some boneheaded community peace activist said that the shooter had to get down low in order to shoot a small child.
10/09/2018 02:09:00 AM
Just how many double meanings did you figure you managed here?
Besides the obvious 1.
Everybody knows their names now and boy are they in a lot of trouble. Really , what trouble are they in?
10/08/2018 10:38:00 PM
When you find the hook in your mouth, you are the fish.
Who the fuck does the ACLU think they are? What right do they have to tell the PD what to do. The voters tell the mayor what they want and he tells the Chief.... No one elected the ACLU to anything.... That's the way it should work....otherwise everyone is spinning their wheels...
10/08/2018 11:17:00 PM
Uh, dummy, that is precisely what has occured. Precisely.
To the guy/gal at 02:02: you are going to single-handedly win back the War in Police by the use of adjectives alone. Thank you for your service!
Anonymous said...
T: I don’t know what you crybabies are crying about. I’ve been a sergeant for 10 years (I didn’t get promoted to lieutenant because I didn’t want it) and have no absolutely no C.R. numbers (so you know I worked in the ghetto). The Van Dyke incident was entirely a bad shoot…period. Just read the Use of Force Model. Um, I mean the New Use of Force Model…or whatever the hell else the legal department will replace the Use of Force Model with next period. I’ve been on the job a long time and that old saying still holds true: just follow the General Orders and you got nothing to worry about. Go ahead…read GO 03-02 and the Use of Force Model in your FOP book, I’ll be here and I got plenty of time (I’m a sergeant in a unit). Read the Illinois Criminal Statues 720 ILCS 5/12-4 and 720 ILCS 5/9-2 too. Murderers in Cook County get charged with Murder and Aggravated Battery from the same incident all the time. Nothing has changed in the last 20 years so quit bitching. I still live on the South-Side, worked in the 8th District and things have only gotten better. You guys got to act smarter. Forget about the guns and learn “verbal judo” and “de-escalation”. It always works. Ask me how I know. None of the bad guys in Chicago use body armor or use high-capacity semi-automatic weapons. I still use the revolver I bought off a retired copper. Just ask any range guy or tactical trainer and they will agree with me and tell you that’s good enough for this job. I’m totally safe and a set a great example for younger officers and spend my uniform allowance (that the FOP fought for) on other things besides stupid uniforms and gear. Not doing the job is not an option either. Just look at the 8th District coppers who didn’t respond to the scene that night. Everybody knows their names now and boy…are they in a lot of trouble! I’m retiring in January and when I accept my award at the Christmas party next year morale will have improved, Van Dyke won’t be on the minds of coppers facing a lethal threat and we will have a pro-police mayor in City Hall. So stop being a crybaby…friggin crybabies.
The Tool of 86-3
There is NOT one range officer that supports or recommends a revolver on the street. Thank god you are retiring very soon. What pro police mayor is running for office? Morale will improved? Why? The exempts we have now are clueless. Van Dyke will never be forgotten but you the day after your retirement. You are a relic from the past and completely out of touch with the streets. SMDH
Anonymous said...
OT a bit but today is Jesse, Sr's 77th birthday. Should we not have sent him something?
10/08/2018 01:56:00 PM
I wouldn’t give him the sweat off my ballbag!
Funny how he is now miraculously cured from his illness, during the first #metoo purge? Who did he payoff, and where did the money come from?
Years ago I ran into the actor Michael Gross, who played the father in the sitcom Family Ties, as he crossed Armitage near Kostner. He was visiting his mother, who still lived in the Hermosa neighborhood he grew up in. He told me it was a great neighborhood to grow up in. Oh my how times have changed.
OT
Swat Follies continues
Three part series coming out on SWAT or NOT
Focusing on:
1) Lack of resources and capabilities
2) Merit leadership
3) Bogus Overtime
4) Ghost Payroll Training Sgt
5) Hostage being killed by SWAT
6) Systemic Racism (Swat Hiring)
7) Negligence during training
8) Incomsistent Training
9) Lawsuit against City of Chicago
10) One part devoted to a Sgt ML and his past incidents of Domestic CRs and harrassment.
35th street is pissed. Some serious changes coming to SWAT.
10/08/2018 11:18:00 PM
Good. We need a shake up at swat. Get rid of number 1 and number 2. Lock up that Psycho SGT. He’s just a Little crazy.
When a police officer gets shot or killed there is NO OUTRAGE. When a gangbanger gets shot or killed there is OUTRAGE !!!!
@Lionel Hutz at 5:47 PM
“I don’t know what you crybabies are crying about...”
LMAO! I was wondering when someone would respond to the post by the Seer of 86-3 a few days ago. Let’s hope he reads this satire.
If for some reason the post from the 10 year Sergeant is real, I'd like to point out what a bragging, self promoting douche that you are. If it is a post mocking these types we unfortunately have on this job (which I suspect), well done. If this is a real post, it is full of terrible advice and is not factual at all, so you very well would be an inside douche in a small unit, sitting around polishing your revolver.
To the tool of 86-3.
I am a lieutenant because I earned it. I've never been a merit anything and took only what I've earned. I do not tell people how I achieved my rank, that is generally shown in my leadership and by my actions. To say you didnt "get" it because you didn't want it, you're full of shit and easily seen through. You're bitter because someone didn't hand it to you and you "couldn't" earn it.
You are 100% wrong in your explanation of the JVD shooting, so you better use that time your stealing from the Department and not doing your job, by sitting and hiding your lazy ass in the Unit, and use some of that time to re-read the statutes you quote. If you have trouble comprehending them, take the words in smaller blocks and understand what you read before you move on to the next section. JVD was justified in shooting the offender, however, he became overzealous and fired too many rounds beyond reasonableness. That's where he went wrong. There was nothing criminal about his actions, he was persecuted for political purpose.
I don't know how you made the rank of sergeant, but it's obvious that you are overwhelmed in your position, and your supervisory skills are not up to par. Whatever you were trying to say about JVDs situation did not come across very well, and you've only got a little time left to improve those skills. You'll be respected more and more effective in your position if you learn how to better communicate, and speak with knowledge. No one, and I mean no one cares if you have or had Cr numbers, that only means you didn't know about some or did little or nothing on this job. Aggressive police officers and effective leaders do not have to rack up Cr numbers. But they come with the job and have been increasingly popular as times have changed. I've been an accused in several Cr investigations merely because of my position in relation to allegations against other Department members, so you not having any does not bode well for you, and more likely puts you in the class of standing on your subordinates rather than with them or under them for support. I'll stop with my rant on you, you and everyone else here has the idea of where I'm coming from. If you not the jagoff you sound like, re-read my sentence regarding communication skills, and if you are, well then all of us can't wait until you finally leave. And I may be your boss hoping so as well. You've certainly earned the nickname Tool, but believe me, it's not something to be proud of.
Giant self cleaning oven.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
" Anonymous said...
T: I don’t know what you crybabies are crying about. I’ve been a sergeant for 10 years (I didn’t get promoted to lieutenant because I didn’t want it) and have no absolutely no C.R. numbers (so you know I worked in the ghetto). The Van Dyke incident was entirely a bad shoot…period. Just read the Use of Force Model. Um, I mean the New Use of Force Model…or whatever the hell else the legal department will replace the Use of Force Model with next period. I’ve been on the job a long time and that old saying still holds true: just follow the General Orders and you got nothing to worry about. Go ahead…read GO 03-02 and the Use of Force Model in your FOP book, I’ll be here and I got plenty of time (I’m a sergeant in a unit). Read the Illinois Criminal Statues 720 ILCS 5/12-4 and 720 ILCS 5/9-2 too. Murderers in Cook County get charged with Murder and Aggravated Battery from the same incident all the time. Nothing has changed in the last 20 years so quit bitching. I still live on the South-Side, worked in the 8th District and things have only gotten better. You guys got to act smarter. Forget about the guns and learn “verbal judo” and “de-escalation”. It always works. Ask me how I know. None of the bad guys in Chicago use body armor or use high-capacity semi-automatic weapons. I still use the revolver I bought off a retired copper. Just ask any range guy or tactical trainer and they will agree with me and tell you that’s good enough for this job. I’m totally safe and a set a great example for younger officers and spend my uniform allowance (that the FOP fought for) on other things besides stupid uniforms and gear. Not doing the job is not an option either. Just look at the 8th District coppers who didn’t respond to the scene that night. Everybody knows their names now and boy…are they in a lot of trouble! I’m retiring in January and when I accept my award at the Christmas party next year morale will have improved, Van Dyke won’t be on the minds of coppers facing a lethal threat and we will have a pro-police mayor in City Hall. So stop being a crybaby…friggin crybabies."
Glad I don’t work for you Sgt..I bet the District can wait until your gone
Why in the he'll is a two year old o on a street corner at 1025pm?
10/08/2018 08:19:00 AM
he was holding the dope in his diaper.
There is NOT one range officer that supports or recommends a revolver on the street. Thank god you are retiring very soon. What pro police mayor is running for office? Morale will improved? Why? The exempts we have now are clueless. Van Dyke will never be forgotten but you the day after your retirement. You are a relic from the past and completely out of touch with the streets. SMDH
10/09/2018 09:00:00 AM
Range officers?
That's who you choose to trust?
Silly rabbit.
""I am a lieutenant because I earned it. I've never been a merit anything and took only what I've earned. I do not tell people how I achieved my rank, that is generally shown in my leadership and by my actions. To say you didnt "get" it because you didn't want it, you're full of shit and easily seen through. You're bitter because someone didn't hand it to you and you "couldn't" earn it."
You know Lou every LT. says they exact same thing.
Every single one.
When a police officer gets shot or killed there is NO OUTRAGE. When a gangbanger gets shot or killed there is OUTRAGE !!!!
10/09/2018 09:52:00 AM
When a police officer gets shot or killed there is NO OUTRAGE.
When a gangbanger gets shot or killed there is a street memorial with fake reverends, candles, teddy bears, a scribbling board or wall, photos of the dearly departed and plenty of crying and wailing and proclamations of "dis gotta stop!"
Only when a gang banger is deservedly dispatched to their maker by a police officer is their anger, outbursts, protests, chanting, marching and OUTRAGE !!!! Plus all the other shit mentioned above.
10/09/2018 09:52:00 AM
Why was the 2 yr old still up at 10 pm????
10/08/2018 08:21:00 AM
Scheeet, that is midday in some neighborhoods!
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