More Missing the Point
The media just loves play with shiny objects that Rahm waves in front of them:
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Tuesday announced the rollout of the first of 200 new “license plate reader” police cars that will be able to quickly identify and recover stolen cars and maybe reduce carjackings.
The technology will allow police to match license plates against the list of stolen vehicles so officers can quickly respond.
The city already has 40 vehicles equipped with license plate reading technology. With the additional vehicles, each of Chicago’s 25 police districts “will get roughly six cars for continuous patrols,” Chicago police spokesman Anthony [Google-me] said Tuesday on Twitter.
“The cars build on the city’s larger strategy that has resulted in an 18 percent reduction in incidents of carjacking, and a 31 percent increase in arrests compared to last year,” the mayor’s office said in a news release.
We guess we're back to 25 Districts again. Must be part of the Rahm hiring wave that "filled" the ranks. As for the reductions that Rahm is hoping for:
- part of that "decrease" was reclassifying carjackings and car thefts, like when the car was left running - which we actually agreed with.
- the plate readers can only compare/match plates that are actually listed as "hot." So if you get jacked, (A) the crime has already occurred and a plate reader didn't prevent shit and (B) if you don't know your plate, it might be hours before it gets into the system, during which your car can travel past all two hundred plate readers and not a single "ding" will alert officers to it.
You know what would really deter/reduce carjackings?
- apprehending carjackers
- extensive prison time
But given the current Chase Policy:
and the fact that Crimesha refuses to prosecute carjackers until their twenty-sevens conviction, we imagine plate readers will only be good for recovering cars that have already been used for shootings or other robberies.
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"... With the additional vehicles, each of Chicago’s 25 police districts “will get roughly six cars for continuous patrols,” Chicago police spokesman Anthony [Google-me] said Tuesday on Twitter...."
WTF--we haven't had 25 districts since BEFORE this goof came to town
These plate readers are pointless as SCC states above. The plate has to be in the system to get a hit. Not many people know their plates by memory. We can run them after the fact and find where the plate hit after the Hijacking but that doesn’t do too much in the way of finding an offender.
Let’s pretend we track this plate across town and find it, then do some work and come up with some possibles. Do a photo array, victim can’t pick out the offender. There is no case here.
Vehicle pursuits are a no-no, therefore catching the bad guy in the car is slim to none.
Who got the connected contract for these LPRs? Waste of tax payer money.
Who cares. There’s a no chase policy. You really think a carjacker is going to obey the law and pull over for license and insurance when approached by the P D ? Best way to deal with scum that want to threaten you and steal your car is conceal carry. BAM.
Too bad they weren’t showing bullshit detector technology...now, that would have been a real show!
Oh boy! License plate readers!
Department of Revenue had more cars equipped with them than CPD did as of a couple years ago.
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No foot pursuits of armed, fleeing offenders either.
Kim "Me & My Peoples/Folkses Revenge Against Y'ALL" Foxx
will have the ass of ANY Chicago Policemen who chases,
detains, arrests and or justifiably injures, maims, kills
one/some of her "communerty membaz" in the course of a
vehicular or foot pursuit.
Chasing now gets Policemen cooked in the administrative,
legal, career, financial and punitive civil jackpot.
Just do the recovery on the burned-out sled when
Dude is done having his fun rolling around pillaging.
Go home at the end of your tour un-punished, un-ruined,
un-indicted and free.
Feed, clothe and shelter your families.
Watch your children grow up, prosper and flee this seething,
breath-takingly violent, hate-filled, radical racialist/excusist,
liberal democrat Alinskyite and white-guilt SJW shit hole that
Chicago has been deliberately busted down to.
If you love them, this is what you would do...
What would really deter carjackers? Fire.
Just like those guys in South Africa that got sick of the carjackings - so they rigged the underside of their car with some remote controlled propane tanks and igniters attached to pipes...
Couple of attempted car jackers that turned into crispy critters and the word got out fast - best to move on to easier and safer pickin's...
But you know - someone would claim the usual nonsense and the Victim would be blamed for attacking the criminal...
Cop : squad, my plate reader hit on this plate, coming back stolen
Dispatch : yes, was taken in an armed vehicular hijackkng, hold any and all occupants, preserve fur prints.
Cop : high rate of speed
Supervisor : terminate
So in essence, all the plate reader has done is verify that the hijacked car is still stolen, hasn’t been recovered, and is still being used for god knows what number of other robberies, carjackings, and burglaries as a getaway car.
Born and raised here, I used to love this city.
A bit part of me does, but that part of me is embarrassed to admit I do.
Because this city makes me so fucking SICK sometimes.
RIP Chicago. It was nice to know you.
If you can't chase what good are plate readers? All the thief has to do is refuse to stop and speed away while you stand there with your dick in your hand. Good job Rahm you fooled them again, it's not that hard though.
License plate readers do one thing, generate revenue for the municipality in which they are deployed.
The real question is what connected vendor got the big contract installing these worthless devices and the upkeep. Dirty money is King in Chicago.
Any Supervisor who allows the chase of a stolen auto, had better have his concrete patio/slice of heaven, in Mt. Greenwood or Edison Park, in some kind of Blind Land Trust in his/her Gtandmother's name! Unless it was an armed carjacking with an infant in a car seat, or a dead victim; the copper on that chase is just itching to be the recipient of ugly litigation, as would be the Supervisor who allows the Pursuit to continue. Have we forgotten the lawsuits filed by the families of deceased car thieves, or the innocent victim/ bystanders hit by stolen autos being pursued by Police? In Cook County, Illinois Law is twisted and "interpreted" to suit the taste of BLM and ACLU. ALL PROSECUTIONS ARE DISCRETIONARY,AND AUTO THEFT IS A PROPERTY CRIME! When people leave the car running and a Mope jumps in and steals the auto; it is not worth risking the lives of the Officers and general public to encourage someone to randomly aim 2,000 pounds of metal and plastic at a high rate of speed. Let the auto insurance rates rise. Do not ignore history: remember Paul O'Neal, the "BLM Martyr", shot dead by police after he ditched his stolen auto, back in October of 2016? When Rahm brags about these new license plate readers, he fails to mention: How Many Went to the Department of Revenue, so that they can Denver Boot more vehicles. Everything Rahm does, has an ulterior motive, and the Little Cop Hater is never doing anything to favor CPD. Remember, CPD inadvertently ended Rahm's Political Ambitions! Rahm may have even been aced out of a job at CNN, since they are looking at FALN Louie Gutierrez, not Rahm as a political commentator! Before you consider a pursuit; consider who, other than YOU will be using your patio, after you lose your pile of bricks, as part of punitive damages! Stay Safe & Wise! Baby "G"
I hear the department said that these devices reduced carjackings by X%.....can someone tell me how that happened?
200 cars. 25 times "roughly six" is roughly 150. 22 districts times "roughly six" is roughly 132. Where are the other 50 to 68 cars going? And how do they end up with "roughly six" per district when there are already 40 license plate readers out there? We all know that "roughly most" of these cars will go to certain south and west side districts, so not exactly the even distribution suggested by this nonsense story. 240 cars and 22 districts should mean "roughly ten" per district at least, if we're pretending they'll be equally distributed. It actually makes sense to deploy these cars where the stolen cars are most likely to be recovered, but stolen cars are also used in the slower districts to commit various other crimes, including more carjackings. Plate readers have a slightly better chance of decreasing carjackings than shotspotter does of decreasing shootings, but both are still really close to zero on the effectiveness scale.
Anthony also thinks we have 57 states.
The plate reader is indeed a useful tool. But on the other hand, the plate reader collects certain information on law abiding people geo-coding was permanently indexing their registered vehicle for posterity. Lets say you attend a First Amendment pro Second Amendment rally or attend a fundraiser for an aspiring other than democrat candidate. You have been identified and registered by the private sector authorities. Lots of real world intelligence for those who has access to privileged information. And intrusive pictures of the driver and the passenger compartment going about their private lives in their registered vehicle.
The company that operates the plate readers boasts it has billions of records. Not billions of criminally associated vehicles, but average citizens swept up in its fishnet of legally permissible collection of certain information on U.S. citizens. Freedom of association 1st Amendment violations granted permission because collection efforts are done in public? Or a clever technique to monitor citizens under the pretense of locating and identifying criminal involved vehicles? East Germany approves of such techniques. East German agents used pen, notebooks, binoculars and 35mm cameras. So much easier nowadays.
What's the difference you can't chase them???
Mayor Rahm Emanuel on Tuesday announced the rollout of the first of 200 new “license plate reader” police cars that will be able to quickly identify and recover stolen cars and maybe reduce carjackings.
Ok.....what kind of ass-speak is this?? If the car has been stolen already, how can the LPR prevent this act? 99% of the time, car-jackings happen when dude walks up to the victim and points a gun at him, taking his car. Sounds like a connected person got a nice contract and the city spins this as a crime prevention tool.
Fuck the Dept 1st and the 16th stay safe
I don’t get it. We can’t chase anyway. So what good does it do to have MORE tech that can find stolen vehicles? They don’t stop. They don’t stop for ISP, CPD, the suburbs, etc. Word is out there clear as day that we can’t chase and they know it. So what good is spending all the money on this shit going to do? I have a buddy in a burb who found a stolen car and lit it up. Vehicle took off and before he even had the chance to say he was terminating, the car blasted through a light and wrecked. The kid told them at the hospital “I was told that if you don’t stop after a few seconds, the cops have to stop chasing you.” Awesome job Cabrini Green Foxx. Criminals don’t give a flying fuck any more.
Anyone who chases a stolen car in this town is bat shit crazy. Want to go home and tell your wife and kids and family that you just lost your job. Let rahm and the bosses ride around in the plate reader and shag hot cars. We'll see how long that lasts.
just an fyi vehicular hijackings are classified as robberies not thefts
THE BEST PURE BULLSHIT EVER .....GREAT JOURNALISM
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-kim-foxx-gun-convictions-met-20170725-story.html
You should add
C. Don't chase, its not worth you personal and financial well being.
Just a tip and clue to the citizenry that read this blog: when we vacation, and have need to rent a car, the first thing we do is take a
PHOTO of the license plate. Since everybody has the newest IPhone, Samsung, Whatever new fancy phone is out there now,
there is no excuse for anyone not knowing their license plate.....
Maybe someone should put out a Public Service notice on tv to the citizenry who video record all kinds of dumb stuff, but can't take a
minute to snap a little still pic of their license plate.......what say, Google-me?
And yes, my fellow men and women in blue.....don't chase, don't stop, no matter how many license plate readers Rhamulus puts out there......that is trick-bag heaven for Crimesha, Prickwinkler, Rhamulus and his 50 thieves......
You've added to my paranoia. Current on car payments,
but now I'm backing into my garage but putting Reynolds
Wrap on both plates.
Another tool that cannot be used. Smoke in the mirrors.
Can our body cameras be setup to read plates? That would be awesome dude.
1/09/2019 04:21:00 AM
Punitive damages that is a homerun. If you younger coppers full of piss and vinegar have not been sitting in that cold,dank federal courtroom stating your assets and liabilities,as your family is in tears when your on that stand, take heed to what is being expressed about punitive damages, that money to the uniformed,computer game playing,texting fiends on the job means you yes you personally will be paying someone off from your money. Your money means not the unions money,not the cities taxpayers money understand your bank accounts, maybe selling your home,vehicles,putting kids into public schools, eating cat food please think first!
Not worth some pathetic exempt placing hands on your shoulder and saying "good job," and getting that early duck, remember the exempts don't come to court and support you, don't believe your idiotic boss would do this, look at the recent court cases with coppers how many showed up with gold stars? If you answer zero your are correct!
Car jacking have stopped right, oh no must be the doctors again with surgical masks,are they federal workers working in hospitals needing a check:
Armed carjackings reported in Logan Square
https://chicago.suntimes.com/news/logan-square-carjacking/
BOLO attention citizens:
In two of the incidents, the gunman was wearing a hooded sweatshirt and a white surgical mask, police said. In another, he was accompanied by a female in her late teens.
More of "we favor the criminal" reporting, the media does not want them caught until it happens directly to them, more fake news in Chicago.
When the city disbanded the "auto theft unit" back in the 90's they showed they didn't care about auto theft. Auto theft rings still exist with impunity here. And no one investigates them unless a patrol unit stumbles onto one.
I imagine the plate readers will fall into disrepair with no money to repair them as did the squad car PDT's and station computers and printers. The city has always been quick to announce equipment improvements, but has never provided the ongoing maintenance necessary to keep the hardware functioning.
Why does everything in this department have to be so Shitty???
When did they start processing carjacked cars for prints? I would try to order an e t for a recovery, and their Sgts would get on the air and say how his people are too busy to do that?
These aren't nothing new in Chicago. WGN had the "Bozo-Puter, in the 60's and 70's to pick the kids on the Bozo Show. The idiots at the top have a never ending mission to spend and waste more taxpayers money. So they can raise more taxes. If you're thinking of leaving Illinois,they will have an "Exit Tax", as a final insult to you as you leave this corrupt socialist democrat oligarchy. Bon Voyage!
Annnnnd still missing the whole fucking point. You aren’t preventing a fucking thing. You prevent car jackings by keeping violent assholes locked up and letting police pursue car jacking offenders. You prevent them by letting the police pursue the offender and if there is any collateral damage you charge the offender. But not CPD........states attorneys charges and judges reinforces sentencing. With a mandatory sentence per offense. Again all smoke in mirror bullshit. CPD has had plate readers for years.
All liability once again is on the officer. The officer takes the plate reader and decides when to pursue. And if something goes wrong it’s the officers job or life. No liability put on the supervisors, except the monitoring SGT. The politically appointed brass continue to sit in their cushy fucking undeserved spots safe and clueless. Let them take out the cars. Show the officers how it’s done, you overpromoted pieces of trash. Lead by example for once. Them maybe you’d understand the real state of policing.
Yeah well lets see how many times these plate readers are down. Who fixes them now. Chicago always goes the cheap route just like the hillbillies they hired to put the GPS in cars. They were non union and the City wouldn't let them use any garages to install. They were installing in 10 degree weather. I'm sure the connections were really good.
Clowns will believe Jugghaid Special Ed is the real dill too.
Ok, plate reader goes off, now what?
Balance test applies. Your career or someone’s insurance deductible...hmmmm.
When it comes to lies and statistics, the people voters don’t question or care.
Spread that misinformation that there are 25 police Districts and 6 Area Centers (there’s enough excess exempt brass though).
All that and there’s only 2 neighborhood Cook Co Court houses with no reduction in staffing or budget.
Caught the tail end of Mancow and heard him mention something about red light cameras and penalties.
Not sure what talking point he had going but I’m sure it had to do with how swift and strick the City is with traffic violations and fines than getting caught with and/or shooting a handgun.
Sort of like the boot program. Shake down the scofflaw, hostage the sweet ride yet the violent armed feral get nothing more than an appointment and 40 strikes.
As for any PSMV, robbery or theft+P whatever they call it, and even felonies, why do we even need a criminal court anymore other than allowing expansion of PrickWanker’s Empire with stooge attorney’s and clerks.
Stay Fetal, know your limitations.
Don’t bring your Fortnite.
No Rahm-feral yoof is worth a .01% jump in adrenaline and a 2 bpm increase to the pulse rate.
These monies could have been better used for purchase of new equipment. How about replacing all the broken chairs in the stations or do we have to wait until an officer falls and injures themselves. Replacing all the outdated PDT's and terminals inside the stations. Update our network hotspots to eliminate signal loss. We have a no chase policy so if the computer hits on a car in traffic how in the hell are we going to stop it. Just makes me wonder who is behind these contracts.
Absolutely ridiculous! The only thing this will do is help the drunk guy that forgot where he parked his car and reported it stolen find his car quicker. It will do nothing to stop car jackings. That crime has already happened and we can’t chase.
Show their effectiveness and just turn it off when you get in. No stats to pull, thay ain't seeing nothin. No false stats to generate for the clueless regime.
Plate readers DON'T STOP carjacking. It only takes a few seconds to pull a gun on you and drive off in your vehicle. Plate DON'T STOP the act.
Don't foot chase,don't car chase,don't stop anyone.Just answer the radio and go to your calls. A field contact card went from a small card to a two page report called an ISR. Thanks to the ACLU,RAHM,KIM FOX,and LISA MADIGAN
“Any Supervisor who allows the chase...” (1/09/2019 04:21:00 AM)
- Hey I like Staying Safe & Wise with Baby "G”...but gee, how about using paragraphs. My eyes hurt.
So, it's a "do not chase" reader.
"...we imagine plate readers will only be good for recovering cars that have already been used for shootings or other robberies."
You're imagining too small. They'll be quite good for compiling all kinds of data on individuals' movements. It's a gold mine for marketers, big data, and big brother.
Anyone driving their own car in the city will leave a nice breadcrumb trail complied and available for sale -- all gathered by your friendly neighborhood CPD patrols under leadership's paper thin guise of stopping car theft. It's about the data. The rest is misdirecrion.
Who got the contract for this latest shinny tech turd?
As Rahm’s tenure is winding down he’s been very, very busy patting himself on the back.
Good riddance asshole!
LPRs causing an increase in vehicle hijacks. Recent arrestee claimed that the car he jacked was recovered quickly (thanks to LPR) so he went back and carjacked a new car. So, instead of one car that day, he jacked two cars.
just an fyi vehicular hijackings are classified as robberies not thefts
1/09/2019 08:04:00 AM
Just an fyi: robberies are thefts.
I post this same comment at least twice a month. I still can't figure out why people come on this job. This is NOT the only government/city job. And with the pension issue? I just don't get it? Are there any coppers on the job with 20 years + who are advocating their kids to come on the job as days past? If so, why?
So if the new equipment finds a car can you chase it? Just tail it until it stops then arrest
popular mechanics did a big story on these about two years ago.private data companies have these on poles everywhere in the cities. as mentioned above they collect all vehicle data all the time and sell it on the open market. you go here all the time,you go there all the time and its duly noted in the cloud. now you fall behind on your car payment and you think your slick and hide your car in moms back yard. but the plate reader shows you going to jewel every monday, golfing every wed. or maybe dinner every friday at the same place. repo mans not gonna stake out your house anymore,just pay the data company for your breadcrumbs. we are creatures of habit after all. this can also be used by a private eye in divorce cases without leaving his computer, he can find out where hubby goes every friday night when he says hes bowling lol. and of course the feds can prob get a warrant for the info fo free. as the above poster said its all about selling the data, and selling the public another bill of goods that they are doing something about exploding crime, and helping the venecko plate reader company get off to a good start in 2019. some day the hair gels will find out that their best friends, their computers, are not their friends at all.
6 wow...and how about the 25 in the shop for weeks or the 10 junked not replaced..or the pool cars that need a jump every morning because the battery cant handle the drain of all the equipment?..asking for a friend
I remember a few years back my car was stolen, and was not seen for at least 3, 4 weeks. I go for a walk and go barely 3 blocks from where my car was stolen and low and behold, I find my car parked on the street. Call CPD and a officer pulls up, starts writing a report, then stops, looks at my car, looks at the street, then asks, how the fuck didnt the plate readers catch this car sitting here, especially since the neighborhood has a few plate reading squads roll through numerous times a week. (In case you're wondering, I'm talking about the Cicero and Fullerton area. By the RR embankment)
Yeah suuure these things help. I find my own car 3 blocks from where it was stolen weeks later. I reported it stolen. Battery and a few items gone. Nobody noticed.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
just an fyi vehicular hijackings are classified as robberies not thefts
1/09/2019 08:04:00 AM
Just an fyi: robberies are thefts.
1/09/2019 04:58:00 PM
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theft + a little sumptin sumptin there genius
Plate readers DON'T stop the act of a car jacking nor prevent a car jacking from occuring !!!!!!!!
theft + a little sumptin sumptin there genius
1/10/2019 12:07:00 PM
Nice to see you agree. You don't have to refer to me as a genius though. Saying a vehicular hijacking is not a theft is wrong. Saying it's a robbery instead is wrong. Both are wrong because a robbery is a theft, whether it's a carjacking or a stick up at your local bank, or punching an old man and taking his wallet. Robberies, by definition, are all thefts. The "little sumptin sumptin" doesn't change the underlying theft. Sorry, genius.
Anonymous said...
I post this same comment at least twice a month. I still can't figure out why people come on this job. This is NOT the only government/city job. And with the pension issue? I just don't get it? Are there any coppers on the job with 20 years + who are advocating their kids to come on the job as days past? If so, why?
1/09/2019 06:08:00 PM
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Well, probably because it's one of the easiest city jobs to land period. Let me ask you, what other city job is sending out email reminders to people every week practically begging people to take the next exam? The Fire Department sure in the hell isn't. The Water Department? Nope. Streets & Sans? Nah.
The best feature these cars have is the ability to turn the volume of the plate reader completely down so that you never actually hear the alert go off when it does find a hot car. Throw the plate reader app in the background and BOOM! No RSA reports for us today! If anyone ever wondered why no one found their stolen vehicle yet, it's because a police officer has to actually look for it first for it to be found.
Don’t you actually have to have police cars to put them on
The department can see all plate reads or hits real time. So, in a perfect world. Vehicle taken, Detectives notified, plate checked in data base prior to being on hotlist and sometimes you see exactly where it goes within 30-60 min of hijacking. Im sure watch Lt have access to that database too and could run them imediately after the hijacking.
That car from lincoln park is now in the 100’s. Usually captured on an intersection or highway camera quite a few times...... But what self respecting boss/police officer/detective would ask another police officer to risk their career/life/freedom to try and stop a stolen vehicle. The writing is on the wall. Document & move on. Accountability only effects people with something to lose.
The highway & intersection big brother cameras are impressive. The squad car plate cameras are angled to pick up parked cars, not ones in traffic and some districts rarely have one on the street anyway.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
theft + a little sumptin sumptin there genius
1/10/2019 12:07:00 PM
Nice to see you agree. You don't have to refer to me as a genius though. Saying a vehicular hijacking is not a theft is wrong. Saying it's a robbery instead is wrong. Both are wrong because a robbery is a theft, whether it's a carjacking or a stick up at your local bank, or punching an old man and taking his wallet. Robberies, by definition, are all thefts. The "little sumptin sumptin" doesn't change the underlying theft. Sorry, genius.
1/10/2019 06:09:00 PM
Both wrong. A theft is a theft and a robbery is a robbery. You can marginalize a robbery all you want, but there’s a reason it’s titled differently and the UCR is different. Let me take an unattended amazon box off your front stoop and then pimp slap your daughter or elderly mother, while I scream at them calling them bitches, and yank away at that purse wrapped around their shoulder They’re all just thefts right? How about I pistol whip them first, then decide I want to shoot a round into their gut, before I snatch that purse away. Just a theft right? Not sorry and you’re NOT the genius you think you are hotshot
Why doesn't that asshole Rahm spend money where it will do more good- like fixing some fucking potholes on the NW side? Thousands, even millions being spent on stupid wet dreams, like license plate readers and red light cameras- do nothing to help us. Instead, how about just fixing the damn streets????
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
theft + a little sumptin sumptin there genius
1/10/2019 12:07:00 PM
Nice to see you agree. You don't have to refer to me as a genius though. Saying a vehicular hijacking is not a theft is wrong. Saying it's a robbery instead is wrong. Both are wrong because a robbery is a theft, whether it's a carjacking or a stick up at your local bank, or punching an old man and taking his wallet. Robberies, by definition, are all thefts. The "little sumptin sumptin" doesn't change the underlying theft. Sorry, genius.
1/10/2019 06:09:00 PM
Both wrong. A theft is a theft and a robbery is a robbery. You can marginalize a robbery all you want, but there’s a reason it’s titled differently and the UCR is different. Let me take an unattended amazon box off your front stoop and then pimp slap your daughter or elderly mother, while I scream at them calling them bitches, and yank away at that purse wrapped around their shoulder They’re all just thefts right? How about I pistol whip them first, then decide I want to shoot a round into their gut, before I snatch that purse away. Just a theft right? Not sorry and you’re NOT the genius you think you are hotshot
1/12/2019 02:26:00 AM
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a theft is one element of a robbery, ya, let's keep arguing this stupid fucking topic - IT IS NOT A ROBBERY
just like a battery is one element of a homicide - are they equal too? no, they are not
dork
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When the city disbanded the "auto theft unit" back in the 90's they showed they didn't care about auto theft. Auto theft rings still exist with impunity here. And no one investigates them unless a patrol unit stumbles onto one.
I imagine the plate readers will fall into disrepair with no money to repair them as did the squad car PDT's and station computers and printers. The city has always been quick to announce equipment improvements, but has never provided the ongoing maintenance necessary to keep the hardware functioning.
Why does everything in this department have to be so Shitty???
1/09/2019 09:26:00 AM
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we have an auto theft unit - they are out of Harrison/Kedzie - I don't know if they are staffed like they used to be - but it does exist
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