Don't be Lazy
Believe us, we understand the "stay fetal" movement. That doesn't mean be stupid though:
- No mention about the area noth gangs chasing a hot car then the driver as he fled, tasing him, taking to the hospital then to 19 where he sat in a holding room at times alone until the dicks and victims came out to sign complaints and ID the fool. Once charged and taken to lock up in 19 they (lock up) find a 9mm between the offenders legs. How many hands touched this offender? How many different POs took custody of this offender? How many people could he have killed? On scene, in the hospital, at 19???
Every time a prisoner changes hands or buildings, he ought to be searched as a matter of course. That means, if he's arrested by one officer and searched, then passed to a transport vehicle, he ought to be searched again. If someone else takes him to the hospital, he ought to be searched. When he hits the lockup, he's searched anyway. And we've seen the big transport vans search who bunches of prisoners before they load them up for the court runs....and Cook County searches them again upon arrival at 26/Cal.
Labels: safety issues
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
62 Comments:
Maybe this one didn't get searched because he "looked trustworthy"? >sarcasm<
OT: Banning whatever weapon falls out of favor with the Democrats has zero effect on whether or not a criminal uses it to attack someone...
https://abc7chicago.com/rock-thrown-at-police-car-on-southwest-side-shattering-windshield/5431505/
Seriously, I wonder if they'd ban cans of vegetables if the highrise projects were still open?
Be glad that God loves cops. (Whew!)
rb
Sloughness is laziness. Do your jobs already. Pat these pricks down low!
Sp glad I’m inside and don’t deal with prisoners.
"C'mere m/fer... Be my friend
and let me freak on you."
Never forgot those old guys
who broke us in on "the project car."
Every Policeman who had hands on this
asshole and didn't freak on him hard
enough to find that pistol?
Shame on you.
Take your licks and learn from it.
Thank GOD!
This situation did NOT turn into
the instant, pure-D shit show
it could have.
"Don't be Lazy"
Laziness is what gets Policemen hurt
more than anything.
Police Like You HAVE NO FRIENDS!
Any bets on this guy's FOID/CCW permits and all? I'll go with a rap sheet length as well. Maybe we should start a pool.
Lots of sloppy work done today. FTO’s are worn out and it’s a young Department where the blind leads the blind. Plus we don’t go to court anymore to learn from other officers:cases, testifying, senior officers wisdom, etc.
I guess the consent decree and leaning about trannies via eLearning will fix that.
Reminds me of the "butt gun" incident from 2018. Shouldn't 019W have those metal detector wands, bc they should be used on every soul (asshole) that sets foot in there.
Lies! Criminals are not allow to possess firearms so there is no way this story could be true... No criminal would have a gun in Chicago. The criminals just are not allowed to!
End of story!
I always hated touching these foul smelling, diseased goat pizzles, but dude, if one of us gets hurt because you wouldn't search these bad actors, it's on you and the families of their loved ones will not forgive you and will you forgive yourself? Just search these mutts so you and your coworkers can go home at the end of your tour and not the hospital or worse. Bad people do bad things. These are bad people and they're not to be trusted.
I am glad the driver was smart enough to not do something stupid and complicate his own life.
SCC, Do you know the Ironic thing about this situation?? A PPO actually found the gun in lock-up, not the "seasoned" P.O.'s! After asking the offender....How many officers have searched you, the offender replies "ALOT"! What does that say about us in doing searches? How many of us or anyone could have been killed? Absolutely No Reason for this gross neglect. This asshhole had the weapon shoved up in his nuts. Search People, Search! Use the wand..it may save a "your" life.
"Have you properly searched your prisoner" ??.
Credit card, that's what we called it. Hand flat up leg between the crack then down the other leg was usually good to tell. And if dude started acting froggy or figity you could bet there was usually something more than God given parts in there. Thank's to all the officers before me who took the time, for all our safety!
"Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: Banning whatever weapon falls out of favor with the Democrats has zero effect on whether or not a criminal uses it to attack someone...
https://abc7chicago.com/rock-thrown-at-police-car-on-southwest-side-shattering-windshield/5431505/
Seriously, I wonder if they'd ban cans of vegetables if the highrise projects were still open?
7/31/2019 12:06:00 AM"
That can of creamed corn can hurt!
About 4 (maybe) years ago we had an incident in which a 16 y.o.a. banger was sitting in the back of a patrol car, hands cuffed behind him, and managed to shoot himself in the head while the LEO was inside with Records.
Imagine how THAT went over with the "activists" in the "community."
Everyone involved should take time.
shout out to sgt EY who properly showed me how to search these people
Similar situation happened with an FTO in 017 last year. IAD should hammer anyone that fucks up like this. This is unacceptable and the most dangerous thing a cop can do. Puts everyone’s life at risk.
Zero rhythm for all involved. You must search your prisoners thoroughly. Then wand them. The PPO that found the weapon by hand did his job properly...everyone else should be taking a bare minimum of a week. Luckily we were being watched over.
Unreal.
Same thing happened years ago when a gang unit working Taste picked up a kid and brought him in the processing trailer. Dude sat in the trailer for half an hour with a 9mm between his legs tied to a string around his waist while the officer completed the reports with his back to him.
I used to work in intake at 26/Cal. Keep in mind, by that point the prisoner should have been searched at least 3-4 times. You wouldn't imagine the stuff we'd find down there. Guns, a machete, bolt cutters, etc.
Take the time for a real search.
Just them all naked at time of arrest. Problem solved.
So now at rollcall have a search training session everyday until the hidden gun is found.
This is taking fetal a little to far.
Headlines, Headlines!!! The new mayor bans searching of poor people.
Amazon sells those hand held metal detectors for about $30.
Priorities way overlooked.
But the Dept is too cheap to buy these for the lockup when they have to spend resources on jungle gyms and cook out weinies.
Rare instance 019 had anyone in the lock up?
These numbers chasers are just that.
Probably 10 people on that arrest and all but one went home by the time Dets were assigned, and for what...a misdemeanor- even for with the gun joe foun’t between his legs?
Of course, the gun wasn't processed, was it?
I’m a dick and I’ll admit I don’t search offenders if a PO brings them into an interview room. This will definitely change. He’ll get searched VERY well and if I find so much as a fucking penny on him, those Officers will be blacklisted by me. I’ll never give them info on picking someone up. Should’ve been searched on the street by A/Os, and again by transport POs, and again in the station for property inventory purposes. And Yes, by me pre-interview. But I gotta say, once he’s in that interview room and if he’s under the light, a found weapon will equal suspensions for all involved. Can’t delete videos! Be safe out there.
As one of my FTOs once said:
“Casualness creates casualties. “
Retired Ol’ Sixgun Sarge
I think all the people that should have found the weapon and didn’t should be given a few days off (suspended) so they can brush up their search techniques. Someone could have been killed because of your laziness. Assholes.
We use to teach that in the academy, that being take over a prisoner then search over again that prisoner. Don’t assume anything. That was what the twenty minutes were for after rollcall inspection during home room time. Useful things like take the backseat of the squad out to see if a mope secreted a gun there (personally found three there), one of the officers always stand off center and a little behind the suspect, slap the passenger side rear fender when your partner approached the driver, etc.
Similar incident happened in 005, two tact officers
Jesus guys, do a proper search, I know it sucks, but you gotta run your hand up his leg and get up into his dick and berries.
You are lucky the offender didn’t decide to shoot you all. Second tact officers have a bad habit of leaving arrestees unsupervised in the holding cells. Another bad practice and a matter of time before a officer gets really jammed up.
Remember the dynamics of an arrest. Your stress level goes down when you think your job is done or near done, but Mr. Shitheads stress level goes up. He may be worried about warrants, actually doing jail time(though not in cook county), having an unpleasant experience at the jail, etc.
Very lax police work, very lucky nobody was killed .
Yes, a deadly question: "Was the guy searched....? Answer: "Yes".
FTO’s are worn out and it’s a young Department where the blind leads the blind
Really? Most ftos have under 6 years and took it so they could go to 16 17 or any other slow non ghetto district. If anyone is worn out it's your average PO in the ghetto forced to work with brand new ppos.
But in regards to this search the prisoner if your going to arrest them.
Easy fix, don't chase.
Anonymous said...
SCC, Do you know the Ironic thing about this situation?? A PPO actually found the gun in lock-up, not the "seasoned" P.O.'s! After asking the offender....How many officers have searched you, the offender replies "ALOT"! What does that say about us in doing searches? How many of us or anyone could have been killed? Absolutely No Reason for this gross neglect. This asshhole had the weapon shoved up in his nuts. Search People, Search! Use the wand..it may save a "your" life.
7/31/2019 03:47:00 AM
Each one of them that "missed" this weapon should be suspended and then sent back to Police Academy for retraining...
The rumor of the day is the detective's were denied a no-sack warrant by the ASA office...
Wow, that scares me a lot
I’m a dick and I’ll admit I don’t search offenders if a PO brings them into an interview room. This will definitely change. He’ll get searched VERY well and if I find so much as a fucking penny on him, those Officers will be blacklisted by me. I’ll never give them info on picking someone up. Should’ve been searched on the street by A/Os, and again by transport POs, and again in the station for property inventory purposes. And Yes, by me pre-interview. But I gotta say, once he’s in that interview room and if he’s under the light, a found weapon will equal suspensions for all involved. Can’t delete videos! Be safe out there.
7/31/2019 09:04:00 AM
If you're a dick and this is first time you heard of this happening then you must have no time on the job. It happens quite often.
Lucky someone didn't get killed. A bag of cocaine gets through because a guy clenches his cheeks, whatever. But a gun? Do your damn search. If you can't feel his junk you don't know what he's got hidden there. Then you go off to do paperwork and he caps someone in booking...
New guys are afraid to do a decent pat down / search especially if met with any kind of hostility from the offender. Sad.
Always easy to Monday morning Quarterback.
Clearly it seems that a large number of officers had 'assumed' that others had tossed this guy. They are all fortunate that no one was injured or killed by this offender, or that he took him own life with his lockup pistol. Un-freaking-believable!!!
Old Retired Guy, Here, Again !!!
Had to chime in on this issue. Did I blow a few searches ? Yes! Thank God, No One Got Hurt. I Did Learn This. Search The Patrol Car You Will Be Using For Your Tour Of Duty. Search It Well, Pull Out The Back Seat. You "Will" find "Left Overs". Search "Anyone" who enters your vehicle. Search the vehicle, after anyone leaves. Search the Patrol Car at the end of your tour of duty. Search all person's you are transporting, even after they have been searched by the arresting officers. Once in the Station, Have prisoners remove shoes, and all outer clothing. I know you cannot and should not "Strip Search", but come as close as possible. Oh, did I mention, "Shop Lifters" ? They will have contraband. Be sure to handcuff all prisoners to the wall ring. Both hands, cuffed through the ring while you are doing your paperwork. No chance they can grab out at anything.
Please, Be Safe Out There.
Lots of people will be taking some time on this.
Thankfully there was no tragic ending.
I'm not sure what's worse, that they searched him and didn't find it, or that they didn't do a search at all.
OMG!!!! What a dumbass . . . . . . unforgivable . . . . .
Search every SOB as if your life depends on it and mine. It does matter.
Always squeeze the balls and manhandle the noodle.
i/f
Retired
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I’m a dick and I’ll admit I don’t search offenders if a PO brings them into an interview room. This will definitely change. He’ll get searched VERY well and if I find so much as a fucking penny on him, those Officers will be blacklisted by me. I’ll never give them info on picking someone up. Should’ve been searched on the street by A/Os, and again by transport POs, and again in the station for property inventory purposes. And Yes, by me pre-interview. But I gotta say, once he’s in that interview room and if he’s under the light, a found weapon will equal suspensions for all involved. Can’t delete videos! Be safe out there.
7/31/2019 09:04:00 AM
If you're a dick and this is first time you heard of this happening then you must have no time on the job. It happens quite often.
7/31/2019 04:53:00 PM
Agreed. FNG copper/dick. Tired of the incompetence on this job.
This officer should take time. Not only did jeopardize his own safety but everyone else this prisoner came in contact with. How the F**k are you on gangs and can't even search a prisoner properly? You definitely need to go back to the watch. You don't belong in gangs.
Being a cop, or being a good cop, is not a job for shy people.
"... Always squeeze the balls and manhandle the noodle..."
Can I interest you in visiting my pretty loft for an unlimited supply of my famous white wine spritzers?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Don't foot chase, don't car chase, don't stop anyone (racial profiling). Just answer the radio and go to your call. Be safe and God Bless!
Two from 005 tact did it too, hopefully a hefty punishment is slapped on them for endangering everyone’s life
Happened in 008 a few years ago
Hotshot tact guy missed a gun So did hotshot wagon guys Hotshot tact guys wife is LT and worthless at
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