Under 500?
Depends who's doing the counting.
Some comparisons - here's Los Angeles numbers:
And some from New York (thanks to our StatGuy):
HeyJackass.com has the total at 513. The media won't touch that number because it flies in the face of Groot's desire to keep it under 500 as the Slum Times reports:
- When Mayor Lori Lightfoot met with top Chicago Police Department officials a week ago, she had a number in mind: 500.
Lightfoot pressed the police brass on what they intended to do to keep the 2019 body count in Chicago below 500, police sources say.
As of Tuesday evening, the police department’s murder count for the year was 492. Officials say they’re hopeful that total won’t surpass 500 by the time the new year begins at midnight.
And to curry favor with Groot, the media will allow this to stand, even knowing that nearly a dozen death investigations are pending re-classification sometime during 2020 when no one pays attention to last year's total.
Some comparisons - here's Los Angeles numbers:
And some from New York (thanks to our StatGuy):
Chicago can nearly match both New York and LA combined....and there is no way Groot wants that tied to her progressive agenda, so it just won't be mentioned or the total will just be "massaged" gently to make them look more attractive.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
70 Comments:
Happy New Year
Thanks for all you do!
About 3 months back went for 525 +/- 5 was a tad too optimistic. When dust settles will probably be around 518.
Going for 515 for next year. Get you picks in early before the good #'s are taken.
Only using Hey Jackass #'s.
Stay Safe and Think of Your Family
Keep the line moving. Next victim please.
Main Stream Media here says that homicides were down. Obviously they never heard of or don’t want to hear info from Heyjackass.com. Pity MSM is bought and paid for here in Chiraq. Unbelievable that we beat both NY and LA combined.
See beck tonight at news conference ? he looks like he aged 10 years since sept
So here is why people are leaving Illinois.
The politicians who are elected are lying to the public.
The appointed superintendent And chiefs are lying to the public.
Then the media who are suppose to ask the questions just accept the lies!
It’s just the way this state county and city work.
No one will challenge to status of lies over truth!
Happy New Year SCC!
492 is the murder number limited to CPD's jurisdiction. 513 is the homicide number only limited to the city's boundaries which will match the CCME's count and will rise over the coming days, weeks, months, etc...
In any event, the stenographers have been told their number and that's what they'll go with.
-WHT
As time goes by being on this job, you sort of lose perspective about what the numbers mean. I was reading an article about how Baltimore and Chicago are soft on crime and thus have high homicide numbers.
https://nypost.com/2019/12/27/the-bloody-toll-from-baltimore-chicagos-soft-on-crime-mindset/
And then I read the post about 020 having no murders and 011 leading the city again. What is 020 missing that 011 has to spare?
These things get me thinking that maybe there needs to be a new metric for comparing murder statistics. As murders are are mostly black on black crimes, perhaps we can examine how a city does on the number of homicides per 100,000 black population.
Some quick calculations:( I am drinking, so these may be off)
City Murders Population #of blacks murders per 100k blacks
New York 311 8,175,133 2,228,145 13.95
Chicago 513 2,695,598 913,009 56.19
Philadelphia 356 1,526,006 686,870 51.83
Houston 210 2,099,451 594,000 35.35
Detroit 271 679,685 535,900 50.56
Memphis 190 646,889 414,928 45.79
Baltimore 347 620,961 403,998 85.89
Los Angeles 252 4,029,741 402,448 62.62
Washington DC 163 601,723 314,352 51.85
Dallas 209 1,197,816 308,087 67.84
That is the top 10 cities in US by number of black population.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._cities_with_large_African-American_populations
If the numbers are correct, it looks like New York may be doing something right, LA should probably not be popping off so much.. most everyone else is in the same ballpark
I suppose I could see how many of the murders are black offenders/ black victims/ etc.. but I am almost out of beer...perhaps some stats for a future comment
Its a bloody mess here. Thanks Foxx, Dart, Evans and Groot. Cant go ANYWHERE and feel safe anymore. Fucking idiots. Stay armed citizens. It may be the only way you make it home.
Five hundred is out of control. Can imagine if medical technology was back in the 50’s. They would be around 1,000. Lets face it, there is way too much crime.
You can fool some of the time but you can’t fool them all of the time! People are fed up and leaving! Good luck to the future of Chicago.
Kind of like keeping the Bears at .500?
It's so pathetic that the mayor and her minions put more time and effort into lying to the Citizens then telling the truth serving and protecting Them.This game politicians play disregarding life has got to stop. Who is supposed to speak up and represent The Chicago Police Department anyway? Why do We the Citizens, allow the few politicians to abuse Us and destroy Our Families and Our lives? Chicago, the dopes dope dealing murder slum town.This is a dark dark time with the devil smiling on Illinois.Now its Jan. 1.Well let's see those new Chicago Illinois laws,ordinances ,taxes,fees,increases restrictions for "SOME" Of Us.
Good job to all those that still go out and work hard.
Hi, I'm Michael and I'm spineless. I'm a blob.
Going up thru the ranks, I would often hear the older men
say that, when pressed for results, women & children would
be added into the body counts in Vietnam. With the approval
of the immediate higher ups, I might add.
Now my good neighbor friend, Mister Charlie Beck, went East
to Chiraq to be the 'head' man. Now I'm told it's just the
opposite in Chicago (er, I mean Chiraq) because the Mayor
wants to keep the counts low. The only reliable source is
HeyJackass.
I sure miss Mister Beck and hope he is keeping warm in that
frigid, nasty weather. Come home soon Charlie. Remember
it's only a part-time job.
Hi, my name is Michael, and I'm spineless. I'm a blob.
Something about Chicago look at Philadelphia and Baltimore too what is causing all these homicides?
Hi, my name is Charlie, and I want to thank SCC for
posting that photo of my dear friend Michael. I would
like to take this time to dispel a common myth about
police departments in major cities. NO, we do not
transfer the '4-Star-Bars' to the new Chief to save money.
Quite the opposite, we let the departing Chief keep his
"bars", caps, and other military memorabilia as keepsakes.
Some guys wear them on their new jobs, even if they find
employment at WalMart. Some play dress up and use them
at Halloween parties. In any event, we realize that those bars
can feel as heavy as the weight of the world, and in the words
of a stone loser NFL coach, "We respect that."
A scared universal bond between Chiefs and bars. Indeed.
The are many death investigations that are actually homicides. The Detectives that haven’t changed the classifications yet.
Shocked. Shocked to read the post yesterday that
Walgreens was stocking up on jugs of wine. That
greedy company would also sell you rope. Oh, I
forgot, they're from Chicago, so they're only following
the Capone business model. Now watch them make a
mint on useless hangover cures. There was this druggist
from Atlanta named Pemberton, a Civil War vet, that came
up with a concoction containing cocaine and cola extract
flavors and sugar and carbonated water.........
Well there is a lofty goal for the he/she in charge. Keeping the body count below 500!
500 is just a number. You have a state's attorney who changes state law to what she thinks it should be and doesn't want to put anyone in jail. 13 people shot in one incident, how many children shot in past few months. The offenders are quite often out of jail early from a previous case or out on bond on another case. Keep people in jail and the numbers will go down more.
Lying bug eye fool mayor increase in the decrease shitcago public school math.
You know something is wrong when you are happy there are "only" 492 murders.
Very sad, that peoples live's lost have become nothing but a number in Chicago to the bean counters.
With very little effort next year Chicago can surpass the combined LA /NYC numbers.
But the city is safe. Thank God now I can rest easy. Yes I know the 500 families don’t believe it but so what they are just a small inconvenient number. Same for the almost 2800 shot in city last year and how many were raped robbed or car jacked! Again just a small sampling nothing to be worried about. We still give away enough Free Shit to overcome their protests.
But at least Baltimore keeps us from being the worst...
Chicago mayors office pr dept working overyime touting way lower murder rates for third straight year!!!
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/31/us/chicago-murders-drop-2019/index.html&ved=2ahUKEwiM2sTOzeLmAhWIKM0KHTJwBckQFjAAegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw0jUlNM-IYPtsjzzFRnc_Sd
21 bodies is a hell of an accounting variance.
Ch. 32 had the number at 509 stating that they didn't count the justifiable homicides but all others. And of course that does not include the death investigations as you pointed out. With all the CPD high technology implemented over the past year or so, "juking" the numbers for the new decade should be no problem at all. Just like they are now claiming a 56%+ murder clearance rate until they explain that the number includes clearances from past years. When applied to only 2019, we're back around 25%. Whether it is crime or politics, truth is always the first casualty.
they lie to themselves. there will be a long dry hot summer. keep that little bottle of five hour energy handy. you're gonna need it. the groot with the law degree is working on the no overtime overtime verbage.
Will Groot fire herself after encouraging Beck to lie to the public. That is the standard she set when she terminated Eddie.
Channel 9 news had it over 500.
Groot will never ever ever mention how we are more like Baltimore than NYC or LA.
Twelve and a half million population considering New York and Los Angeles. Ha Ha! Trump needs to point this out to the mayor.
Beck said this: “This city does have the potential of being the safest big city in America and it is on track.”
What a fucking moron. We’re on track to go to the toilet.
Go retire Beck you idiot tool.
"Michel Moore is spineless" is damn right. https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/lapd-chief-buckles-to-l-a-times-curtails-stops-for-improved-perception/
Imagine if We had California Weather the number would be 700 Murders.
This Mayor is getting as sneaky and untransparent as her predecessor. She’ll probably still claim that she is ‘unaware’ of any Red Line savagery Michigan Ave mayhem and $1,000 shoplifting sprees by ‘teens.’
Gone in aug Texas
So let's look closely. If it weren't for the decrease in burglaries in New York, their overall rate would have higher for the year. Sounds like the savages in New York are paying attention to Chicago, no consequences for illegal behavior.
Now for L.A. Geez, they are even better liars that we are in Chicago. Crime down in every category. Who are you bull shitting? There is no way this can happen. Spineless or not, he gets the golden apple for being the best liar.
Once again... do you feel safer? Do you wanna ride the train to downtown? Do you feel safe walking downtown? Do you feel that things are improving on the bad sides of town? Are good areas getting worse?
So we’re due a big raise for all the crime reduction, right?
Baltimore had a banner year but you forgot St Louie! That little hamlet has higher numbers than NY and LA by far. Perhaps they are teaching marksmanship classes as a part of "No child left behind".
Those lives were lost a long time ago. Their life's choices lead them down that path. Free will in action. Make bad choices get bad outcomes. Simple as that.
Well, watching WGN news, and the media is touting the party line.
Crime down, murders down - 492 is the Provda number.
Mr LA was mugging it for the camera.
Very sad that the citizens buy this numbers game.
The only sad ones are the non target mistake shootings. The rest not so much, Karma can be ugly.
Girl found Dead in burning car in 20th district, Let's see Maybe it happened in Park Ridge.
The bean counters are the only ones that have it right. Majority of these killings can be laid at the feet of the Democratic leaders and their 90 years of failed policies in the city of Chicago. Every politician, evert liberal voter made this possible. Want it to stop. Only way will be a massive Crack down on crime and jailing those responsible for a very very long time. But that would mean jails full of people of color
Or since they are the ones committing the vast majority of violent and non violent crimes. No stomach for that then STFU about how sad the killings are. So want to stop it. First step is throwing Kim and Prickwinker out of office. Ball in your court gonna play?
Not counting all the homicides that occur within the city limits is like not counting home runs hit by the opposing team at away games. Or, someone that gets shot or stabbed in the city and dies an hour later in Indiana or a suburban hospital doesn't count. The old decrease I. The increase bs.
Want to stop It? Mandatory 10 years for gun used in crime with no time off. Felon with gun and no crime back to jail for another 6 full years. Caught again dirty for any reason gone for the next 20. Shoplifters mandatory 2 years no time off for first offense over 200, 5 years for second offense with only 25% off for good heavier. Third offense hone for 8 years with no time off. Rape or any serial assault crime mandatory 10 years with 40 for anything involving underage assault. Finally three strikes and you gone for life for ANY violent convictions. That is how you make the city safe again. That is what I call restorative justice. Absolutely quarter given to any criminals no matter the age.
We all know CPD cooks the books on all crime stats. And the public eats it up! If you tell a lie enough times...
Ralph Papa Thorson Says:
First Off. Happy New Year SCC.
Secondly: Only Imbeciles would brag that their Titanic of a Police Department (CPD) is sinking just a little bit slower in 2019 than in the past.
Stay Safe in 2020, Officers, beware sticking your necks out for a Mayor, States Attorney, and many others who hate you for no reason.
This is Great News for us...It should strengthen our contract negotiations!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Main Stream Media here says that homicides were down. Obviously they never heard of or don’t want to hear info from Heyjackass.com. Pity MSM is bought and paid for here in Chiraq. Unbelievable that we beat both NY and LA combined.
1/01/2020 12:48:00 AM
Hey it's all gonna be OK as weed in now legal, so turn that frown upside down boys and girls! So you see no one will much care about the homicide count as the big news will be the wonderful legal pot stories. The Bug Eyed Trite Sprite Larri is down wit dat. Beckenstein nods his head just like the political hack he is. Give a real Chicago Way cheer to the greedy democraps. Vote early and often.
Now if Groot could just find a real progressive for sup things would really be looking up in Chicago. Eddie the Rat sends a prayer from Dubai.
#3 in population
#1 in gang, drug murders
#1 in most guns recovered with nobody going to prison
anyone make a gun pinch lately , 1st time offenders , no felony charge , 2nd chance
oh well maybe next time an innocent child will be killed
how many of Chicago citizens died from an overdose using illegal drugs
those deaths should be included in homicide total
how many shots fired calls reported by our high tech million dollar shot spotters were not recorded as a crime
our city is dangerous , police officers should always be ready
why no shot spotter technology in the jeerers park , Edison park ,Beverly , Mount Greenwood neighborhoods
don't they deserve high tech crime fighting technology
Figures lie, and liars figure.
Rahm proved this to a T and now Groot is following that path too
Hey, pssssst., wanna buy a bridge?
You think Beck scored a sweet deal?
(What Beck knows is Dead Man's Bones compared to Moore)
Source: Los Angeles Times, Aug. 11, 2018 (may hit paywall)
"Before becoming LAPD Chief, (Michel) Moore retired,
collected $1.27M payout, then was rehired"
(BECK looks like a street corner beggar compared to Moore)
City is lost. Lies. Taxes. Death. Corruption. Incompetence. Lawlessness. Only solution is to stop supporting the liberal destruction of the contributors. See you in WI, TN, IN, SC or NC. Change is good. View from afar and you will quickly ignore and embrace a civilized reality.
Loris latest Vick butt boy ass kisser Jeremy Gorner of the scum Times loyally follows loris statement of less than 500. Yes it’s ONLY 492 and goofy gorner at the behest of the associate degree minority cop haters in the mayor’s press office loyally reports what he is told. The scum times has a collection of losers, Steinberg the wife beating drunk, Matt Hendrickson, the cop hater who writes only what Cabrini Kim wants, Nader Issa, an ignorant progressive and king of loris fan club Chris Fusco whose editorial policy is dictated solely by what loris cop haters tell him to write.
Another sob story by Lori ass kisser Tom schuba in today’s slum paper also discusses legitimate shortages in medical marijuana to cancer patients. All by design as there is plenty in lgbtq warrior heather stean’s area in the uptown ghetto. Bread and circuses for the permanent victim class, the bearded hipster douches, and the Democratic dope heads in lake view. Of course poor excuse for a reporter uber progressive pos schuba doesn’t blame Lori, Pritzker, for shortages. They had to pander to people and folks. Cancer patients be damned. Sickening.
To Poster 01/01/2020 @ 01:48 AM you should get a life. New Years Day and you are figuring out these statistics . Anyhow I actually admire you. The statistics you gave are very interesting. Also, I find that you after having several beers came up with a Metrix that all of our so called Criminal Justice Accademia have not come up with. This statistic should be mentioned every time our fearless leaders talk about Policing. Good Job!!!!!!!!!!!!
If Moore walked with $1.27M, what did Beck walk with?
Or is he "still invested" in the plan and receiving checks?
Inquiring minds want to know. Hello, fiscal?
With crime being down “Double digit” maybe Groot can match that with a double digit raise for Police. After all, it’s not down because of the teachers.
Chicago local news is the devils tool.
About 01/01/2020 0148 post:
The Social Sciences that do the numbers search are all very well aware of those numbers. They choose not to push them because it doesn't support the agenda and it is a very obvious but unpleasant fact.
Most street cops are aware of these facts. But it they quote them they are racist.
There are many studies that have shown that if the Black crime statistics are removed from the U.S. crime figures, the United States is one of the safest places on earth.
Happy New Year Survivors!
Haven't been here in a while, but it seems like nothing but the names have changed, and 500 is some kind of magical number representing success or failure. Well, good luck with that, don't know how you keep criminals out of jail and lower the crime numbers, but then I'm not a democrat either.
Still, wishing you all a Happy New Year!
But they got the 16.5%. Sgts lts and captains got 10.5%
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Beck said this: “This city does have the potential of being the safest big city in America and it is on track.”
What a fucking moron. We’re on track to go to the toilet.
Go retire Beck you idiot tool.
***
Always had and still have highest regard for LAPD.
Minus Beck.
Just another typical money grabbing political pooch.
s there that big of difference between 492 and 512? Still a lot of people dead nothing to brag about. Chalk it up to a difference of bad weather in prime killing season. Way to much rain kept the thugs off the street. That is the only difference. Still got that 10% clearance rate. More people shot in 19 than 18. So very little change in the overall numbers. Just a small difference I room temperature community members. Self cleaning oven in good repair and will continue to be as the legal weed war begins.
Fuck da Numbas
#Shoot_4_550
Criminal Statistical Information provided by the Chicago Police Department is unreliable, inaccurate, and manipulated in order to meet Mayoral outcomes for propaganda purposes. "Killing crime on paper" is a Chicago favorite technique in keeping crime to the level that meets the Mayor's requirements. From Groot, to Murder Mayor Rahm to the blubbering idiot Daley. If you don't think that so, take a ride some night on the Red Line.
The Big Lie continues making us Chicago Proud.
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