We Could See This
From the comments:
- There is an effort underway to change how arrested juveniles are handled through the processing process-one of which is prohibiting officers from handcuffing arrested juveniles. Another is not allowing officers to use ANY force (other than on an assailant). So if your uncuffed juvenile runs out of the processing area and onto the street, you will soon not be allowed to tackle them and drag them back to be processed. You must either let them go or convince them to go back to the station with you.
No bullshit. If anyone thinks I’m full of shit...well...just wait and see. The effort is already underway. Some at the top are fighting it, but there is a definite push for this
A definite possibility, given the tenor of "training" that's been underway this year.
Labels: dumb ideas, from the comments
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
54 Comments:
Processing process
LMAO
SCC said...
"We Could See This"
And Policemen will STILL be gifted with
suspension time for someone in custody
managing to escape...
WTF is wrong with these fist shaking
moon-shouters at HQ and City Hall?
Sheer lunacy...
If a civilian nearby happens to tackle or knock one of the little shits out for you, just please don't chase us.
What these political hacks won't do or say to stay in office. Looks like the Democrats are going for broke. Get ready Mayor. It's going to be a long summer.
Ok juvie runs out of station, cops DON'T pursue, juvie gets hit by car or jumped /shot for being in wrong hood. Etc. Now who's to blame
I hate to say it but you guys have been neutered! God help us....
“So if your uncuffed juvenile runs out of the processing area and onto the street, you will soon not be allowed to tackle them and drag them back to be processed. You must either let them go or convince them to go back to the station with you.”
But you will be writing reams of paper on why you failed to keep them in custody. So if they take off and get run over by a car or get shot or battered you will get charged with child neglect and rule violations for failing to pacify and shield them from danger while in your care! Wait till the yutes hear about this!
Pull a democratic ticket. Vote for Conway. This response should be reinforced every day.
Don’t know how it is now but years ago some people would would steer clear from ever arresting a juvenile. The officer would be the one punished because you had to wait forever for the youth officers/SVU to arrive all the while you are having to listen to the smart aleck juvenile. Then you waited and waited for the parents to show up to pick the kid up. Then they didn't show up so now the youth officer adjusts the kid and you end up driving him home. So why subject yourself to all that stress and abuse?
I mean we don’t need to go into why this is incredibly stupid. Juveniles can and often times are combative, shooters, car jackers, homicide offenders and overall violent criminals worse than their adult counterparts because they’re so young and stupid they don’t think of what can happen to them, example, being shot in the face by a CCL holder. Anywho, id like to know who is pushing for this? Brass or politicians? Neither would surprise me.
So hands off the little criminals now. Just made your job that much easier. Look, point, laugh and drive away. Why bother, let a CCW have the pleasure of wasting the little POS. To many juveniles of color being arrested? Is that the problem?
So just who is behind this effort? There is also an effort to take away your guns in the very near future. Will start with the Caps program. Then move to all inside station personal, Defective Units, selected neighborhoods and finally to all street cops. Think I am kidding, just wait.
Stop or I will say stop again!
There will be special equipment issued for juvenile arrest active resisters.
Mace will be replaced with Koolade, tasers with ticklers, and batons made out of marshmallows instead of maple.
The good news is that the City will pay for the the first issue.
The only thing holding up the issue is the indecision on the flavor of the Koolade.
State law will have to be changed first, 720 ILCS 5/7-5. We all know that cabrini kimmy has no problem making up her own rules when it comes to interpretation of state law. So yes, this could be possible in this shithole.
are you fucking kidding me??!
I heard as you cuff then you have to tickle their back
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Could robberies, assaults and murders be the causes? The article doesn't mention them.
The sane juveniles who beat up little old ladies, and men, who shoot down innocents, excell at smashband grab, steal cars and anything else they want, and let's not forget, knife people? Or are we talking the Amish on rumspringa?
Run for your lives, the city is lost.
This effort is underway by whom?
So the officer won’t face five days without pay, when the High School Honor kid escapes?
I worked in A/S youth and most of these kids need to be cuffed. Also they should be released to someone who can prove they are the parent or guardian or they should go to the Audy.
Why even arrest a yoot any more. Just let them run wild in the streets like everybody else. This city is Doomed!
What happens when they car jack someone?
So, now when ever I get stuck with a juvie arrest, all I have to do is leave the interview room door open, and I am done? Not transport to JISC or waiting for a Youth dick? Sounds like a plan! in fact, I wont even lock the car doors. They can just get out at any light I stop for. I wont even have to go to the station.
Technically, this wont even be an escape if we cant hold them against their will. "Squad, my prisoner decided that he didn't want to be arrested, so 19-P"
This police work is getting easier by the day. Now, where is my neck pillow, so I can take a nap in the squad.
Anonymous said...
So just who is behind this effort? There is also an effort to take away your guns in the very near future. Will start with the Caps program. Then move to all inside station personal, Defective Units, selected neighborhoods and finally to all street cops. Think I am kidding, just wait.
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The same people that fought for the consent decree. They have already been to the JISC.
The new rules are that no one can be arrested anymore, unless they want to be arrested. If they are a minority, the police have no authority to arrest them because that's racist. If you do attempt to arrest them and they are injured or killed, you will be subject to a civil suit.
What about flex cuffs?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Stop or I will say stop again!
2/24/2020 04:20:00 AM
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Quote of the day!!!
Just wait till one of them runs out of the station and becomes a hood ornament.
23 shot this weekend, with 6 dead as door nails
And what are the odds some of the shooters WERE juvvies?
Gotta love the SJW law and order in this town.......
Who cares? Chase? Tackle? Why arrest them in the first place? Just don't discipline me for your stupid restorative justice crap.
It simply shows that those who want these silly unrealistic rules have an absolute ignorance of police work and the world in general. Therefore their silly suggestions should be ignored.
Cpd will implement a demerit system. If you get more than 50 then you won't be able to pick an item from the weekly treasure chest. If you get more than 100 then you won't be able to participate in the monthly pizza party. If you get over 500 then you won't be able to go on one the 5 field trips of the year.
Old Retired Guy Here, Again !!! Have to stick my two cents worth in on this one. From my personal experience, "Youths" should be handcuffed, most of the time, all of the time. They have the most energy, they may be the most fearful of what awaits them, usually nothing, etc. etc. etc. Bottom line: Very Dangerous; Make sure all weapons are secure.
Best Wishes, Always !
Anonymous said...
Ok juvie runs out of station, cops DON'T pursue, juvie gets hit by car or jumped /shot for being in wrong hood. Etc. Now who's to blame
2/24/2020 12:47:00 AM
Silly rabbit, the Police will ALWAYS be to blame!
Don’t use handcuffs.
Duct tape is just as effective and is not labeled or defined as a constraint device.
Out of control Nutty Let’m Go Cook County.
Furthermore, the excessive Yoot processing should be a district level function for everything except forcible felonies.
this would be great! all the children downtown wilding...should have non-eventful weekends on the southside
I've had some encounters with 6ft4in+ juveniles late teens built like linebackers
Sounds good to me, I wont even think about placing cuffs on a juvenile. The amount of problems with that are just too much of a concern about my welfare and freedom. Let the little sweethearts run rampant over Chicago, that's what society wants.
765B
Also from the CCSA debate last night, there was a question from the moderator about the high number of persons of color being incarcerated. All of the candidates just spewed the usual talking points about more resources, bail reform, criminalizing poverty. All of those cowards are pandering, trying to say the right thing to placate instead of just saying the unpopular truth:
Statistically, a certain group is responsible for the majority of all categories of crime in this City and County. People are being incarcerated based on committing crimes, not some conspiracy to lock up people of color.
This City and County are doomed, do your (prison) time here, make as much money as you can, and leave.
19b
So the officer won’t face five days without pay, when the High School Honor kid escapes?
2/24/2020 06:53:00 AM
In custody=handcuffs
Not in custody= no handcuffs
Let them run
Anonymous said...
I've had some encounters with 6ft4in+ juveniles late teens built like linebackers
2/24/2020 11:56:00 AM
Same here and then when they are on their shit they’re strong mind is gone all I wanna do is fight and they don’t want us to put them in restraints, it’s a good way to get a cop or hurt or killed stupid liberal thinking they could care less about police officers and law and order
"Duct tape is just as effective and is not labeled or defined as a constraint device."
Wrong. They have training courses for gov workers going overseas. Duct tape is really easy to break out of, no matter how much you use. I guarantee one of those people that had the training put it on Youtube. They are dumb like that.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Pull a democratic ticket. Vote for Conway. This response should be reinforced every day.
2/24/2020 01:09:00 AM
I hate to say it but I think he would become...whelp! Just like dart!..but its worth a shot...what else we got? I think the FIX is in NATIONWIDE! Look at NYC and BMORE! Time to find out what else you are good at and change careers...
And Juvies fight back more than the adults!
All those poor little darlings with arthritis...Oh, wait! Those are gang symbols!
"So just who is behind this effort? There is also an effort to take away your guns in the very near future. Will start with the Caps program. Then move to all inside station personal, Defective Units, selected neighborhoods and finally to all street cops. Think I am kidding, just wait."
keep drinking you turd.
So when a baby huey that's been held back 5 grades gets out of control in the 5th grade (but he actually belongs in the 10th), we're not supposed to cuff him? LOL... yeah right.
Fuq dat. When CPS calls, I'll look at it and say "OK, here's your report. Have a blessed day!" and leave. If they want it handled differently, THEY can do it. It is 'communerity bizness' after all.
Don’t use handcuffs.
Duct tape is just as effective and is not labeled or defined as a constraint device.
Out of control Nutty Let’m Go Cook County.
Furthermore, the excessive Yoot processing should be a district level function for everything except forcible felonies
Use gaffers tape. No residue.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Also from the CCSA debate last night, there was a question from the moderator about the high number of persons of color being incarcerated. All of the candidates just spewed the usual talking points about more resources, bail reform, criminalizing poverty. All of those cowards are pandering, trying to say the right thing to placate instead of just saying the unpopular truth:
Statistically, a certain group is responsible for the majority of all categories of crime in this City and County. People are being incarcerated based on committing crimes, not some conspiracy to lock up people of color.
This City and County are doomed, do your (prison) time here, make as much money as you can, and leave.
2/24/2020 12:39:00 PM
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Chicago is approximately 1/3 black, 1/3 white and 1/3 hispanic as of the year 2010. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Chicago In 2011 there were 433 homicides in the city of Chicago. (128 cleared, or29%) (There were 943 in 1992). The 2011 data lists the race of the offender only in regards to cases that have been cleared. That leaves open the (improbable) criticism that police concentrated on arresting predominantly from one race, but here are the statistics nonetheless. As an aside, 88% of murder offenders were male. Usually that number is in the 93% range. In 2011, 70% of offenders were black, 25% Hispanic and 4% white. These ratios are consistent since 1991 (and probably longer – no data), with blacks hovering around 80%, Hispanics 20%, and whites 5%. (see page 54 of Chicago Murder Report). Median age of these groups is a huge factor, a factor that I will ignore for now. I simply can’t find the statistics. https://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2011-Murder-Report.pdf
I have pondered for many hours over what you wrote and I think I may have an answer. Don’t arrest them. Problem solved. Next dilemma.
So don’t handcuff them. Use leg irons. Now they can’t run anywhere.
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