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David J. Robinson is the Chief Deputy Director at the State's Attorneys Appellate Prosecutor's Office in Springfield, Illinois, and he currently serves as the Deputy Director of the Fourth District office. In layman's terms, it means he's not just a lawyer, but a very smart lawyer.
He recently authored a memo that calls into question numerous portions of Putzker's Executive Orders. We're having issues with some of our remote document hosting applications, but here's a direct link to the memo. It runs about four pages, and it brings up many of the issues discussed here and elsewhere.
If you want to be a smarter cop and not rushed into dumb decisions by "merit" hacks who don't know their jobs or the law, read it and understand the nature of the "orders" you're being told to enforce. The foundation is built on quicksand and cops are the ones who are going to drown in it.
He recently authored a memo that calls into question numerous portions of Putzker's Executive Orders. We're having issues with some of our remote document hosting applications, but here's a direct link to the memo. It runs about four pages, and it brings up many of the issues discussed here and elsewhere.
If you want to be a smarter cop and not rushed into dumb decisions by "merit" hacks who don't know their jobs or the law, read it and understand the nature of the "orders" you're being told to enforce. The foundation is built on quicksand and cops are the ones who are going to drown in it.
Labels: events, info for the police
posted by SCC at 7:01 AM
90 Comments:
Well said.
OT: is it me or is it insane that we aren’t requiring healthcare workers to have a negative test before returning to work after testing positive. It seems if all the cumbersome and asinine things in all these Pandemic orders that essential workers testing positive would be required to have not one but perhaps two negative tests before returning to work? I remember seeing stories on cruise ship passengers who were still testing positive after two months from first test. They claim this thing is dangerous enough to literally destroy our economy, but then we are sending essential workers back into the workplace without requiring them to test negative. I know it’s true of the CPD medical section.
https://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/html5/mobile/production/default.aspx?pubid=3e7227b1-e3b7-4fac-aa07-5f943e58b4c5&edid=d6e7f108-fed2-4309-852c-61a167bf1c44
This should be required reading for every copper. 19P every call regarding social distancing.
The Democrats want cops like North Korea's. Compliant, Politically reliable, and willing to work for dumb ass's.
What is this mysterious force he refers to as the "Illinois Constitution"?
Anyone enforcing any orders from these merit hacks after reading this deserves everything coming to them in a lawsuit. However you'll still have these two year wonders with their tight jeans, sunglasses, leather gloves and baseball caps turned backwards enforcing these BullShit orders. So glad I'm retired and living out of that fucked up city and state. Be safe my brothers and sisters
must be a conservative (GASP) or has his head screwed on straight (DOUBLE GASP).
that hack attorney general in quarantine out of state?
betting kwamies matchbook law degree is only about commiecrat disciplines.
1 way to fight these liberals are stop watching the MSM in your homes and stop buying the daily papers.
It's a good memo that clearly states that Fredo's original EO was unconstitutional, and the extending of the EO could not be done because it exceeded the original 30-day window for any EO. It's too bad that he can't get over declaring that the crux of the EO is good and worthy, because those are the very things that are in themselves unconstitutional.
Being a merit hack or not, does not mean you are smart about constitutional law. If these gold stars have not received any legal guidance from the city, then both the gold stars and the city should take the blame. The exempts should demand a legal opinion and the city and Illinois Attorney General should provide it. In my opinion, the lack of any written legal guidance and the very vague language of these " order" and "directives", tells me that the mayor and Governor know what they are doing is a house of cards on a bed of sand. Only the legislative body can write laws and pass them into existence with the signature of the executive branch. The executive branch cannot make up laws on its own, which is what seems to be happening. Any emergency powers acts/laws seem to have passed. Arresting people for congregating, not wearing a mask or walking on the public way, to include parks during normal business hours seems to be an overreach and unconstitutional.
The Midget and Putzker are in trouble and so are you if you enforce ANY illegal orders. If you took the time to read the memo it says in a nut shell that any problems with enforcing their SUGGESTIONS fall on the person interpreting those suggestions. Simply put that means when the law suit is filed and make no mistake many will be filed the arresting officers name will be the primary defendant. The Governor and Mayor will say him not me, he misunderstood my SUGGESTION and took matters into his own hands. Your reply will be I was ordered to that. Next question will be show me the written orders, oh you don’t have any too bad. Guilty, need an assets inventory ASAP. But honey I was just following my merit hacks orders. No nothing happened to them just us guys on patrol.
Much ado about nothing; standard procedure for attorneys to wargame arguments in the event they have to fight about something in court. Also of interest are: 1) "A cursory review of the EO (and extension) reveal clear - although potentially justified - infringements on the constitutional rights of Illinois citizens." So even this attorney realized right away all this may be legal. Point 2) "Church v. City of Greenville, 4:20-CV-64}" is an out-of-Federal-Court-District case, and in no way binding the 7th Circuit, who may see things totally differently, and 3) Citing the IEMA provisions which clearly spell out the Governor's powers leaves no doubt as to the authority of the Governor to act on his own (there being NO language requiring him to consult the Legislature, or allowing the Legislature to override the Governor, for that matter). This continued propaganda that nobody has authority to tell people what to do or when to do it, or why to do it, is ridiculous. It has happened in other pandemics, it happens in wartime, and it happens every day in the real world.
The IL plan is falling apart because many are ignoring this communist lockdown. Slobernor Pugs knows this and now is adamant about finding and raiding house parties. HQ Merit Hacks we’re already advised. BTW, I noticed there was a mention yesterday that JB has a CPD Commander on his security detail. I can’t find the article right now in ST or Trib.
HQ Exempts and DC’s will be looking for their cap feathers and Lt’s want bump ups too, so watch for The Caato Scurge 2.0 this weekend.
Unit Competition Quotas are back baby!
Wisconsin legislature took their Governor (govenor in 011) Tony Evers (D) state closure to their conservative Supreme Court. They want people to be allowed to get haircuts and allow kids to return to school. Evers ordered state closure included utilizing his liberal Dept of Health Director as the decider, both whom are not allowed such power. His “order” is open ended much like ours in that it’s open ended with no plan or date of expiration.
JB FullSlab wants the courts cooperation and likely they must comply.
We don’t expect Kwanmie or the Democrat legislative to circumvent JB Hoghead’s and doctor Ezekie’s communist powers.
Anyone notice how quiet IL AG Kwanmie has been, even quieter is the loyal Madigan’s Majority.
Courtrooms are closed right now, for many reasons besides the Covid’s.
How many politicians cases are due up this summer?
Even the delay of the Juicie Swollsette case will keep KmmFxxx2020 out of the news.
When these lockdown raids are ordered, find something else to do.
Once they open the courts first up may be the civil rights violations.
So Ask them to follow the Govs request not to assemble. Then you leave
Do not violate the Constitution if you do , YOU not the Gov will be in civil court facing losing your life savings and home. (for what) think about it.
Print out the memorandum and distribute to the bosses especially the W C and Lts and DC.
Lt. S
OT: The warmer weather is going to bring out everyone. Sure, let's all focus on the West side party. It looked like a good time and I did see a few "urban youths" wearing PPE approved masks.
Don't put your ass on the line for some Merit Asshole.
They'll "D.K." (Didn't Know) you at the drop of a hat.
Save those screen shots of every fucking electronic memo
you get. You'll need evidence to defend yourself.
The second to last sentence in the above letter says it all.
So it’s on us to figure out if an order is constitutionally legal in between answering calls for police service.
If you haven’t figured it out yet, you better start, because your on your own.
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Hey, ever notice something fishy when you run the numbers?
Radio says local food bank can serve 1,000 cars with 50 lbs
of food for each. On the surface that sounds noble and
charming. Now, do the math.
That's 50,000 POUNDS of food!
This is some sort of pre-arranged operation designed to
prevent a "peasants coming over the bridge with torches
and pitchforks" event.
That 50,000 Pounds is NOT coming from donations.
That 50,000 Pounds is NOT coming from supermarkets.
It's coming from a DIRECT drop ship from the manufacturers
to the food banks. And the manufacturers are getting a big
FUCKING TAX DEDUCTION.
Meanwhile, there's slim pickings at the retail supermarkets.
Tell me toilet paper and paper towels are in the boxes and
you won't need a bomb to take out the next cop sniper in
Dallas.
Sounds about right. And it also seems like the types of emergencies are limited in scope, not the one size fits all prescription of JB, who doesn't know there is a state outside of Cook County.
What their basically saying is when push comes to shove it was up to you to know if an order was constitutionally legal.
Nice huh!
If you think they have your back you better start looking for another line of work.
State of Illinois will be filing bankruptcy, no doubt about it! They just keep telling you what you want to hear! The city will also be filing for bankruptcy to get out of pension mess, but we will still need 50 alderman!
Just remember the people who support the police are law abiding citizens... The also know about the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Do yourself a favor and REFUSE unconstitutional orders or you will lose the support of the people that back you. Besides, you swore an oath to uphold the Constitution. Didn't you?
A Concerned Citizen
By the way, I haven't seen Foxx at a news conference saying her office will prosecute violations of JB's orders to the fullest extent of the law.
Just read the whole memo. Long story short, you can ask citizens nicely to comply and recommend that they adhere to gov Fats "order", but you cannot enforce one iota of this "order" as it does not hold any legitimate constitutional basis. Fats was very careful to put the responsibility of enforcement on the shoulders of the police as he stated it is "up to local law enforcement" as to the manner in which his orders will be enforced. Chief Deputy Robinson emphasizes the fact that Fats has not taken any real position on the enforcement of his own order; obviously he understands the legal ramifications and political backlash. If your supervisor is too clueless to understand this, then take the spar or suspension and see them in court. Do not allow yourself to be ordered into breaking your own constitutional oath.
https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/2020/04/gov-pritzkers-executive-order-makes-criminals-of-unsuspecting-gun-owners/
Fuck, me. Unbelievable. We are so screwed!
Is it true Roseland Hospital was told by the City and State to withhold positive test information from members of the CPD?
Thanks for posting this!
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - 1919 H. L. Mencken.
It appears what he is saying is much of the executive order relies on voluntary compliance with an implied threat cops will enforce it without actually ordering it. Having read the original order i kind of got that impression.
I also think the 30 days is past, and he has no authority to extend it.
Sound familiar?
From our Law Enforcement Code of Conduct
“As a law enforcement officer, my fundamental duty is to serve mankind; to safeguard lives and property, to protect the innocent against deception, the weak against oppression or intimidation, and the peaceful against violence or disorder and to respect the Constitutional rights of all men to liberty, equality and justice.”
And from our directives...
http://directives.chicagopolice.org/forms/CPD-62.153.pdf
Our oath trumps any unlawful order from the immediate supervisor, the mayor, governor all the way to the top.
We cannot and must not enforce unconstitutional orders. "I was ordered to..." has never in recent history been a valid defense. History will look at us harshly. Be on the right side of it.
Stay safe, stay strong.
That should be required reading for everyone in Illinois, and the local equivalent should be required reading for everyone in the other states and cities whose coronamayhem EOs are more than just suggestions.
Bailey filed a lawsuit as a citizen challenging the governor issuing rolling executive orders that the governor has said is meant to slow the spread of the novel coronavirus. The order keeps certain businesses closed and limits individuals' travels outside of their homes.
While a ruling in favor of Bailey would only impact Bailey, DeVore said it could send a signal to others.
The lawsuit is scheduled for a hearing on Monday, April 27 at 1:30 P.M. in the Clay County Circuit Court.
If this is true than westsiders should be celebrated by us a freedom fighters and libertarians.
I wish owners of businesses would just all open up. Fuck the government’s order, people need to work, and make money!
People get sick all the time, some pass away and some live to tell. That’s the way it is!
The Memo references a "volume of requests from individual State's Attorneys" regarding the viability of enforcement and potential civil liability. Pay attention - Elected State's Attorneys throughout Illinois are concerned about whether Pritzger's stay ay home orders are constitutional or enforceable. The Memo clearly outlines the answers to both questions as being no and no. If you issue dispersal directives or citations, or make an arrest stemming from trying to enforce Pritzger's illegal stay at home orders, you will be opening yourself up to a lawsuit. Don't do it. Stay safe.
This is defiantly a no win for the Police. It's a "Catch 22". Just watch these fools do what they do. Everyone should read this.
Blah blah blah. In other words....stay fetal.
This is the poster-child for violating your civil rights.
Right from the current Chicago Dept.of Public Chief:
https://needtoknow.news/2020/04/chicago-official-confirms-cdc-plot-for-mass-vaccination/
19P all day long.
Headline today Chicago Tribune:
Mayor Lori Lightfoot condemns notorious Chicago house party, says she thinks it took place on West Side
Another Pinocchio move she thinks it happened over there what a moron just shows how out of touch she really is either that or it’s just another one of her lies and all she does is lies. Another sickening excuse for an elected representative she had no mandate she believes she had one it was the choice between evil one or evil to know nothing wanna know nothing too.
Thoughts going out to our brothers in Louisiana and Australia. Your loss is our loss.
Nurses are suing NY & the hospitals for the lack of protective gear.
Years ago there was a great connect between nurses and the police. Somewhere that connect
diminished at the Chicago emergency rooms. No doubt nurses are taking a hit at the moment, I commend you all. After this nightmare settles, I hope the nurses will once again support the police as they are always in the line of fire, short staffed & lacking proper equipment.
20 year RN/ 25 year CPD
Yes, indeed, when the dust settles.
This broke when prosperity and the stock market were at
all time highs. All too convenient for a "reset" from the
2009 lows. That is to say, if you lived under a rock and
the market simply got away from you and you remained
in cash, well, what better a way to topple over the Monopoly
Board and start over, albeit at the expense of the little fish in
the market with their 401 (k)'s on the line? Let's not only
crash the market, let's make them lose their jobs by default
as a result of them being termed "non-essential." Further,
let's make fools of every citizen as we throw our collective
(dead) weight around. Gloves, masks, restricted travel.
Let's make it so bad that common toilet paper becomes a
prized commodity. "Let them use Hermes silk scarves,"
has become the modern day equivalent of "Let them eat
cake." The greatest abuse of power in history.
Unprecedented worldwide lockdown.
The greatest transfer of wealth in history.
Aided and abetted by our friendly national and local Media,
all fully employed, thank you very much.
Ah, the good old fashioned Trick Bag.....
I like the hammer and sickle reference.
great read. thank you for posting that. While I had made up my mind from the onset of all this overreach that I will NOT do what some law enforcement officers appear to be doing across the country (embarrassing, sad, and ILLEGAL), I am grateful for the wording and grounds on which to state my case for REFUSING to carry out stupid orders.
We swore to uphold laws and enforce laws, for the protection of life and property... we are not "order" enforcers.
looks like J.B. the Hutt just got his (ample) a$$ handed to him in court, with the judge saying his stay at home order extension is illegal, based on Illinois law...wow, JB has to follow the law?.....
Has this memo appeared in the Slum-times? Has he been interviewed on TV? Doubtful; the compliant, socialist press wants every one to "do the right thing". And for gods sake don't think about protesting or challenging the Gov.in court.
Hey People,
You may not realize it, but the humble SCC blog is
one of the last bastions of free speech in the world.
Yes, the world. Disguised as a common "cop blog,"
or online "bitching forum" to act as a release valve
for job frustrations, this is a critical exchange of news
and opinions. You cannot underestimate the value.
When we still had paper newspapers, the banner for
one publication proclaimed "Give the people light and
they will find their way." Don't ever underestimate the
value of that statement.
Only 134 of the 500 beds in the Javitz Center
were ever full. Yet someone begged for more, more
ventilators and a hospital ship no less. This from a
crooked politician who invested in solar energy when
he could have bought actual ventilators a few years ago.
Fat boy just got slapped
A southern Illinois judge delivered a setback to Democratic Gov. J.B. Pritzker on Monday, issuing a temporary injunction allowing Republican state Rep. Darren Bailey to ignore the governor’s stay-at-home order.
The ruling by Clay County Circuit Court Judge Michael McHaney came in a lawsuit filed by Bailey, a Republican from the small town of Xenia, which challenged Pritzker’s authority to issue extended stay-at-home orders under the state’s Emergency Management Act.
In seeking the injunction April 23, Bailey asked the judge to find that the lawmaker was “irreparably harmed each day he is subjected to” Pritzker’s executive order and to enjoin the governor or anyone under his authority “from enforcing the March 20 executive order against Bailey from this date forward.”
Blogger Your Correspondent said...
What is this mysterious force he refers to as the "Illinois Constitution"?
4/27/2020 07:55:00 AM
Now that is down right HA HA funny.
Fuck this shit. I’m not enforcing anything that is unconstitutional. You fuckers can drive around with your bodyguards and they can enforce your ridiculous rules. Nope not me.
COVID19-P
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2020/4/27/21239029/downstate-judge-pritzker-bailey-stay-home-order-covid-19-coronavirus-clay-county
State Rep Bailey reads your blog
Can I still get Movers or non essential? To leave this state Anyone know
Wisconsin Governor Evers elected November 2018 for four(4) year term. Evers is left wing career bureaucrat who was Wisconsin Superintendent of Public Instruction ( I.e., the Badger State’s Department of Education) for many years before being elected Governor.
And now the Illinois courts are weighing in:
https://www.nwherald.com/2020/04/27/judge-rules-against-pritzkers-stay-at-home-order-in-downstate-illinois/a8test3/
Downstate judge rules against Toilet Boy's order
Not to mention conflicts with existing law:
Proposed May 1, 2020, Executive Order
“Wearing a face covering in public places or when working. Any individual who is over age two and able to medically tolerate a face-covering (a mask or cloth face- covering) shall be required to cover their nose and mouth with a face-covering when in a public place and unable to maintain a six-foot social distance. Face-coverings are required in public indoor spaces such as stores.”
Criminal Code
Sec. 24-1. Unlawful use of weapons.
(a) A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons when he knowingly:
(9) Carries or possesses in a vehicle or on or about his or her person any pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or firearm or ballistic knife, when he or she is hooded, robed or masked in such manner as to conceal his or her identity; (this violation is a Class 4 Felony)
https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/2020/04/gov-pritzkers-executive-order-makes-criminals-of-unsuspecting-gun-owners/
rb
The Democrats want cops like North Korea's. Compliant, Politically reliable, and willing to work for dumb ass's.
4/27/2020 07:30:00 AM
Absolutely. That way the democrats can distance themselves from actions that you're ordered to take, continue making the police the enemy, and appear blameless in this fiasco.
I get it. This is a unique situation. We haven't experienced anything like this since the days of the plague, but that doesn't mean you should be on the hook for their bad decisions.
Be careful. Be smart.
rb
The city will go bankrupt. Not because of lost revenue from shut business taxes but from paying out to Lovey and Lovey.
OT: is it me or is it insane that we aren’t requiring healthcare workers to have a negative test before returning to work after testing positive.
4/27/2020 07:27:00 AM
That would mean hospitals would be more understaffed than they already are and one doctor/nurse for many more patients on ventilators= death. If you're ok with a bump in the mortality rate by all means test all medical professionals (if you can find and afford that many tests) and take them out of rotation "until they test negative twice." Vents can probably run themselves. Do the same for the meatpacking industry and you won't see protein on the shelves for months.
Yes it is true that the city told Roseland hospital to sit on results until 7 days after the test was administered.
If you PO don't have a memo by legal affairs giving you some guidelines they're throwing you to the wolves.
The executive branch cannot make up laws on its own, which is what seems to be happening.
4/27/2020 08:57:00 AM
Fed and state executives have been doing this for years by enforcing only the laws they want to enforce. See Cook County's state attorney as an example. Now they're just doing it more brazenly.
>4/27/2020 09:07:00 AM<
Nice lawyer-speak. Get out there and enforce the EO yourself.
Where is Kwamie and Madigan??
Stay safe. We are all in this together??
The new Superintendent is allowing the merit supervisors to take police away from low crime districts to babysit LL voting base .
ooh, look at the big brain on 4/27/2020 09:07:00 AM
All well and good until everybody tells the .gov to piss off.
Anonymous said...
The city will go bankrupt. Not because of lost revenue from shut business taxes but from paying out to Lovey and Lovey.
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The city is on the hook for hundreds of millions for false convictions that are in the works. I know the wisdom in cop circles is all these false convictions are so much bunk, but the funds will still have to be paid. It will be decades before anything happening today will be adjudicated.
Keep suing the pig shit out of the Boss Hog. A tyrant that just got a good kick in the nut sack. It's about time central and southern Illinois start making noise about Cook County and shitty city. Chicago and Cook County think they own the state cause Fatso bought the election and a mutant midget thinks tax payers state-wide will pick up the tab for her financial mess. Tell Fatso and the midget to stick their executive order in their ass.
By the way, I haven't seen Foxx at a news conference saying her office will prosecute violations of JB's orders to the fullest extent of the law.
Nor has anyone seen the definition of "fullest extent of the law "
What is the statutory penalty?
But does that even matter?
Foxx has not stated she will prosecute
Dart won't hold them
Evan's probably won't docket them, especially if POC.
Law has about as much bite as a sleeping cat.
Again. Would you as a police officer charge someone with this if you found a concealed carry with a coronavirus mask on...if so you have no business being the police ..can't yse common sense or figure what is right or what is wrong..
I think chubby is like the Dollie in MI. and wants to run for President or maybe VEEP so he's acting all Navy Seal and shit.
Ironically tho a country full of fat fucks doesn't want anyone fat in the White House. Its true, fat people hate fat people. Especially naked.
It's not just the "merit hacks" like douglas and spencer doing the bidding of the democratic tyrants. No there's a lot of rank who "earned" their titles "legitimately" who sympathize and want to push forward the liberal agenda. From lt princess leia wanting sgts to write up po's that 19P social distancing calls, to the idiot caps sgt in 003 (and other districts) posting their fear mongering propaganda, to the jackass sgt in 014 taping off parks, too many of these types have wormed themselves way too high. They are turning this department into the enforcement branch of the democratic agenda.
Anonymous said...
State of Illinois will be filing bankruptcy, no doubt about it! They just keep telling you what you want to hear! The city will also be filing for bankruptcy to get out of pension mess, but we will still need 50 alderman!
4/27/2020 10:21:00 AM
They will be coming for your 401ks, IRAs and Deferred Comp too! The only pool of money available to bailout the government especially if Democrats regain power.
Anonymous said...
The city will go bankrupt. Not because of lost revenue from shut business taxes but from paying out to Lovey and Lovey.
4/27/2020 07:34:00 PM
Stop settling keep appealing cases all the way to the Supreme Court will take a decade!
You really expect a dumb merit-boss to understand all this Come on now ...
Listen neither the city or state will be going bankrupt, the books are then opened for the feds. They will tax us to death but ever go that way. Additionally, a state cannot declare bankruptcy.
So let me see if I have this the taxpayers in highest taxed areas are losing their police protection to areas where there are almost no taxes collected. Can someone say class action lawsuit? Even Lovey and Lovey might want a piece of this one. So why haven’t the org side Aldermen shied the Mayor over this. Come on boys enough is enough. Stand up for your voters with something other than lip service.
You north side rd deserve what you are allowing to happen. Where are the protests. Where is the petition to stop this. Where is your neighborhood voice Chou seem to be good at organizing block parties but not so good at protecting your own turf. To all the CCW holders out there how about armed patrols in your police less areas? Lock and load and get your mask and start protecting your turf. Make those thugs pay dearly for invading your turf. One or two incidents and the Red Line thug system will be empty. Man up. Yes Virginia it has come to that.
Anonymous said...
You really expect a dumb merit-boss to understand all this Come on now ...
4/28/2020 03:51:00 AM
Being merit does not make you dumb, it just makes you undeserving and selfish for bumping to the head of the line base on clout. I have known merit promotees who actually were qualified and intelligent, but that is not the point. The system is unfair and corrupt. But, I would bet that within one year it will be back under a different form .
They will be coming for your 401ks, IRAs and Deferred Comp too! The only pool of money available to bailout the government especially if Democrats regain power.
4/28/2020 01:38:00 AM
You are ignorant. States cannot file for bankruptcy absent the consent of the US Senate and that will not happen. They have the ability to raise taxes and cut expenses. And, the government cannot confiscate your investments, and that included deferred compensation. It is not their money. What will hurt your investments is a world wide depression which will crash the market and then hasten the city bankruptcy and the end of the pensions.
Law has about as much bite as a sleeping cat.
4/28/2020 12:13:00 AM
The executive branch cannot write law only enforce what the legislative branch has passed.
Governors and mayors, mostly democratic, want to sound like they are tough leaders and in command of the situation. They want people to think that they are actually doing something about this crisis, when in fact there is little they can do. So, they " order" people to do things, and they exceed their authority.
"Hey, ever notice something fishy when you run the numbers?
Radio says local food bank can serve 1,000 cars with 50 lbs
of food for each. On the surface that sounds noble and
charming. Now, do the math.
That's 50,000 POUNDS of food!
This is some sort of pre-arranged operation designed to
prevent a "peasants coming over the bridge with torches
and pitchforks" event.
That 50,000 Pounds is NOT coming from donations.
That 50,000 Pounds is NOT coming from supermarkets.
It's coming from a DIRECT drop ship from the manufacturers
to the food banks. And the manufacturers are getting a big
FUCKING TAX DEDUCTION.
Meanwhile, there's slim pickings at the retail supermarkets.
Tell me toilet paper and paper towels are in the boxes and
you won't need a bomb to take out the next cop sniper in
Dallas.'
4/27/2020 10:13:00 AM
Just a guess that a sizable this donated food was packaged for commercial use/sale,
to restaurants, hotels,schools, mobile food vendors, etc. And could not be sold by retail due to packing, labeling, etc. so this is way for these businesses and or food distributors to "write off " the loss for a good cause, rather than throwing it away and writing it off that that way.
Probably alot of commercially package food around that needs somebody to eat it before it expires and then it cannot usually even be given away.
In times like these, LEOs have TWO prime objectives
#1 Look out for #1
#2 Don't step in #2.
4/28/2020 01:38:00 AM
You are ignorant. States cannot file for bankruptcy absent the consent of the US Senate and that will not happen. They have the ability to raise taxes and cut expenses. And, the government cannot confiscate your investments, and that included deferred compensation. It is not their money. What will hurt your investments is a world wide depression which will crash the market and then hasten the city bankruptcy and the end of the pensions.
4/28/2020 08:49:00 AM
Except they did it once already in 1933. In a hyperinflation scenario, your 401K will only buy a half dog and 1/4 of head cheese anyway. On the bright side, bullets will all be worth exactly one human life, which could amount to a lot.
. "Would you as a police officer charge someone with this if you found a concealed carry with a coronavirus mask on...if so you have no business being the police ..can't yse common sense or figure what is right or what is wrong.."
Sorry, but when you see police arresting a surfer who's alone in the water or a mother being arrested in a park with her kids or a father playing softball with his daughter in a near vacant park...I'm supposed to expect the police to use good judgement? JB Swine is a dope. The laws are written for a reason and he thinks he knows best. I look at how police are reacting in Chicago. Sorry, but your reply is wrong. I'm retired, an Army Veteran also, and it's sad to see what's happening in the USA.
Most Merit are dumb , many cowards , housecats , couldn't write a case report or inventory ?
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