Saturday, December 19, 2020

Batten Down the Hatches...Again

Anyone here ever take Phil Cline's Search Warrant class? Offered a few times a year in the 1990's and 2000's, it was so popular, that he continued to teach it even after being made Superintendent. It may have been required for everyone going to the Narcotics Section and most Tact Teams took it as a prerequisite for going to Tact. 

We don't think anything similar has been offered for over a decade now....at least not that we remember seeing.

The past few few days of media coverage shows exactly how this lack of training has been a major failing of the Department. There appears to have been little if any prep work, nothing resembling a briefing and next-to-zero surveillance to verify an uncorroborated informant. There will be Department fallout, starting with people getting stripped. 

Where it goes from there, is anyone's guess, because it has now become political. Very political. 

Because Groot got caught lying:

  • A contrite Mayor Lori Lightfoot acknowledged Thursday she was made aware more than a year ago of the botched raid on Anjanette Young’s home.

    Two days earlier Lightfoot’s office issued a statement saying the mayor only learned this week of the now-infamous police operation in which the social worker was handcuffed while naked as officers searched her Near West Side home.

    “We will do better, and we will win back the trust that we have lost this week,” Lightfoot said.

    Lightfoot said she had “come to learn that, in November 2019, the case was lifted up to me as another example” of bad searches by CPD officers. But she doesn’t have any recollection of it. And the first time she saw the video was Tuesday morning.

Gee, who else claimed to have never seen a video? Some other short asshole if we recall correctly. It's almost like lying is part of short asshole DNA.

And when caught dirty, short assholes lash out, stupidly:

  • John Catanzara, president of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 7, is facing possible dismissal from the Chicago Police Department for offensive posts on social media, it was disclosed at the monthly meeting of the city’s police disciplinary panel.

    The case could be decided by the full Chicago Police Board in the coming months.

This looks exactly like a  political prosecution...or persecution. It has its own danger of making the FOP president look sympathetic. Groot has spent boatloads of time demonizing the police and the Officers' most visible leader. Attacking this way, at this time, after almost four years without a contract and in the middle of a hot war of words, makes Groot look weak and it gave the FOP an opportunity:

  • On Friday, Catanzara offered to resign as a cop, under one condition. “I will resign my spot at CPD effective immediately if they give our officers the retro pay they deserve. Period. You want me gone from the police department? There’s the gauntlet. Call my bluff. I dare you,” Catanzara said.

Groot isn't in control of the narrative any more, and the only way to regain it might be to give the membership what Catanzara just demanded.

Interesting times indeed.

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142 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

“The retro pay they deserve.”

Nice move John ..... a game of chess with Bettlejuice

That leaves it wide open.

12/19/2020 12:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Firing the head of the union could be a violation of the federal Wagner act...and a huge payout

12/19/2020 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lighthead is racist, sexist, and anti Catholic. SHE should resign

12/19/2020 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone has even a tiny bit of intelligence they would know Lightfoot lied. Think about this...so she supposedly went nuts with anger at the city lawyers and her people about the incident. So she said at her first press conference. So not one person reminded her that she was told during her rage that day, before she went to the press conference? Several hours probably went by before the press conference that day. So a day or so later she finds out she was told but claims she didn’t remember? Come on now. How insulting.

12/19/2020 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Retro pay is our money sitting in the cities CD funds being rolled over every 90 days.There should be no question about receiving retro pay.If you are going to put your resignation on the line then demand the same pay increase that was given to the Chicago Teachers Union.

12/19/2020 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck her I wouldn't give her the satisfaction. You got my vote again John, fuck this job & the angry rotten ass mayor

12/19/2020 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Larri's community giving the F U to lori ..she won't get the trust back.. what a lyin bag.. Brillo hair has messed up any thing she touches..CPS ,CPD , Mag Mile
Larri needs a biden life line job out of Chicago

12/19/2020 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God bless John Catanzara.

F.U.F.A. F.U.L.L. MAGA 2024!

12/19/2020 12:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m not so sure this will fly. It’s appears like revenge from city hall. Revenge for what though? JCat hasn’t done anything except argue with Lightfoot. Fired for social media posts? The Supt says not to fire but the Lightfoot police board wants to anyway? The police board is very bias. So they want to fire JCat for posts but an off duty Sgt shoots an unarmed kid and doesn’t get fired? Really? Very shady.

12/19/2020 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Anyone here ever take Phil Cline's Search Warrant class? Offered a few times a year in the 1990's and 2000's, it was so popular, that he continued to teach it even after being made Superintendent. It may have been required for everyone going to the Narcotics Section and most Tact Teams took it as a prerequisite for going to Tact.”



YES!!!

Someone please unearth the handouts that would accompany this class given by Phil... as well as the literature he would pass out at his Asset Forfeiture in service training.

Maybe then the D-Bags who request K9 for money sniffs every time they take a dope pinch personally will learn when a pooch a CAN and SHOULD be used. (YES, this is directed at 003 tact, 011 tact and the 7600 superheros who still can’t seem to figure it out).

As far as Catanzara? He’s a mush whose childish antics are gonna hurt you boys and girls. He likes to flex because he’s a glory hound, but he’ll never be bigger than the machine.

- Former CPD, C/W OEMC

12/19/2020 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When Sheriff Bart and e.t. leave , Chicagoans will rejoice.

12/19/2020 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why does anyone stay on past 29 and a day?? After that, your actually loosing money! Get smart people....leave!

12/18/2020 09:47:00 AM

Because 100k is more then 75k even after you account for pension contributions and taxes.

12/18/2020 06:43:00 PM

If you are staying because you like the job and coworkers, that’s one thing. But staying for money is insane. For argument sake, assume 100k is the average of your highest consecutive 4 years of your last 10 years. You currently get 100k minus 9% pension and 5% state income tax, a total of 14% taken from your salary that a retiree doesn’t have taken out. 100,000-14,000= 86,000. A yearly pension for a guy maxed out at 100k would be 75,000. So, because retirees do not pay into the pension or state income tax, the difference between 86,000 and 75,000 is $11,000. Over the course of 365 days, that $11,000 comes to $30.13 a day. Over the course of the 212 days a year you are required to work(subtracting for RDOs, BFDs, PDays, and Furlo days) that comes to $51.88 a day. For a 9 hour tour of duty that comes to $5.76 an hour. Before federal tax! For fucks sake, minimum wage is $14 an hour in Chicago, $13 an hour in surrounding Cook County, and $10 an hour across the rest of the state. Retire and go work at McDonald’s or Walmart if it’s about the money, because you’d make more doing that.

12/19/2020 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WOW will she blink?🤞🏼

12/19/2020 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I commend him for the offer but why must he sacrifice anything for a fair and much overvedue contract! F U madame mayor.... You can drop all the shit u want on us but we shall over come your brutality and unwarranted hated of the CPD!!! You came and you will go but you will not break us, you will not whip us into submission! No matter what the social bullshit going on .... We will never go away, we will never let evil win, we will stand strong in this political storm of injustice and scorn!!

12/19/2020 01:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI...


About 2-3 years ago, the department sent all tact teams to the United center to do a search warrant class. Tact teams from all districts sat in the 100 level as department members spoke about search warrant procedures. The jumbo tron was lowered so POs could see power points. Handouts were given to POs.


Obviously people didn’t pay attention and were comparing their true religion jeans instead of listening.


Dummies

12/19/2020 01:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is giving the class on common sense? Might make the search wareant class a non factor!

12/19/2020 01:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm was a Master of Deception and Corruption, and left Lari with a ticking time bomb in the form of an unpaid Retro. A conservative estimate puts the retro amount in the Twenty Millions of dollar range, at a time when many of Lari’s constituents are demanding the Defunding of Anything Police. Does anyone remember the New Academy Project? Add to all this a major revenue shortfall due to the virus; and the Mayor has unsolvable problems that will haunt her into her next election. Her incompetence and the negativity that she generates, will prevent her from any position with Biden. The Triple Threat, as she called herself is politically dead. And how Ironic, that two Consecutive Police Hating Mayors, had their political careers trashed by Chicago Police! I don’t think she’ll have her feet on the desk, smoking a cigar and drinking single malt Scotch this weekend; acting like a Real Man this weekend. The Most Unattractive Elected Official on earth is Done. Now let’s see how she lashes out and alienates her own flunkies, starting with OutaTown Brown. Stay Safe and Strong, we are in for some entertaining political theater of the Absurd. Baby “G”

12/19/2020 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And since then its been Baby M Cline teaching the warrant class. Talk about nepotism this man is unreal. All this guy cares about is f’in over Sgts and cowering down to his leaders Kennedy and Ryan.

12/19/2020 01:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Camouflage? Come on guys. You have nothing else in the closet to wear except hunting gear? Why can’t some coppers not think 2 or 3 steps ahead when making decisions? When...and I mean when this results in a lawsuit, do you not think the innocent woman’s attorneys aren’t going to play up the wearing of hunting gear when policing the black community?

12/19/2020 02:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Short asshole DNA...lol nice one!!!

She is a lying bitch-it was reported that she saw the video Wednesday, then later it was Tuesday.

LL actually said she had no recollection of it? A naked black woman being cuffed by the police she despises so much? Seriously???

-No Cop Here

12/19/2020 02:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Groots sex scandal with the murder for hire should be gaining steam...Stand by

12/19/2020 02:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About 4-5yrs ago that search warrant class was taught at the United Center by Lt. Cline (Phil’s son) and some others. It was attended by damn near every unit and tact team. Still got my handouts from the class.

12/19/2020 03:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bwwwwwwaaahahahahahahahahahahaha... Groot don't remember nuffin... didn see nuffin... Sounds like she's straight out of the 'jects.

FULL and all her bullshit. She wants to fire the head of the FOP because of some nonsensical social media post? Nice try honey, not gonna work. F E T A L....

12/19/2020 03:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

J-Kat is going 2 get a Big Pay-Day, sueing these fuck's!

12/19/2020 03:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I retired before Cantazara came to light so I don’t know him .But I believe everyone needs to back this guy up. He’s much like Trump, allegedly says offensive things-and but willing to take on the deep swamp of Chicago politics. It was refreshing to see someone in the Union finally fight back City Hall. And fire him fire saying bad words on facebook, oh come now, the politicians, the activists and the criminals of Chicago have done far worse and nothing happens to them. We are all being suffocated by these left wing loons. Living here just gets progressively worse. I hope if they go after him there will be some action against this evil cabal, because who will stand up for you when they come after you?

12/19/2020 03:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No cop here but I like the guy for having a set unions need more people like that only hope is that Leo’s get what they have coming from the cesspool known as chiraq fuck Blm antifa sjws and liberals

12/19/2020 03:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was still search warrant classes being taught at the United center up until about 2 -3 years ago most tact teams etc... had to go. They were very informative gave good info and handouts. Judge Petrone usually taught it. Also Captain Milmine as a tact LT used to host classes in his district, he’d bring in states attorneys and guys from OCD and the feds to come teach teams. Unfortunately tactical teams have quick turn around and most of those people leave teams quickly. Unfortunately the dept rather you click a button on E learning certifying you trained yourself online instead of actually learning anything.

12/19/2020 04:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lightfoot and Flessner are friends from their time as colleagues in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for Northern Illinois. Earlier in her term, Lightfoot stuck by Flessner even after learning he had, for several years, received homestead tax exemptions by claiming both a west suburban home and a condominium on the Near South Side as his primary residence in an apparent violation of a state law that prohibits homeowners from claiming that tax break on multiple properties.




Wtf??

12/19/2020 04:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Call my bluff"

So is he bluffing?

12/19/2020 05:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Perrywinkles is just sitting there smiling from ear to ear as groot self destructs. Crimesha even took a shot at froggy yesterday. Groot looks like someone sitting in a room waiting to get a colonoscopy.

12/19/2020 06:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WGN posted what it says will be changes to the warrant process, but CPD has not put this in writing yet, or did I miss it?

https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/theres-a-lot-of-trust-thats-been-breached-city-officials-continue-to-deal-with-botched-police-raid/

12/19/2020 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Phatty was a slob who enriched himself, his buds, and stripped white neighborhoods of police.

Narcotics did a warrant with a large drug seizure at Touhy/Harlem and he was pissed because it wasted resources.

Said it didn’t affect his ghetto homicide numbers.

Phuck him.

12/19/2020 06:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there anyone currently on the Dept that took Cline's Search Warrant class?
It was an excellent class.
Is the Dept going to have it's 2-5yr wonders, who have never really worked the streets, teach a new Search Warrant class?

12/19/2020 06:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So they want to fire him for social media posts, but other city employees posting their BS live happily ever after.

12/19/2020 07:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Randy Newman’s song “Short People” https://youtu.be/mrjStSqu_w4

Could be the anthem of Chicago’s Mayors.

12/19/2020 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Catanzara won election because of the failure of the past President who failed to speak up . The majority of his ticket was filled with cops just like him who were suspended on numerous occasions including domestics off duty and various other allegations which were sustained . Since day one he has done nothing but attack people . The majority of cops on this job have no idea of how he is personally . He has insulted everyone including pro-police Aldermen . He has made promises he will never keep ! From day one he has decided he knows best and he really know nothing . He has not mentioned he fired the secretary of legal defense a former cop who is battling cancer . He also hired a board members daughter to take her place and did not consult the Board to hire her . Sad times are ahead for cops because of his stooge who just doesn’t get it . Today across this country police departments should take steps to make people like the police and not hate them . Unfortunately when he get terminated Lori will make this guy a martyr bit if you look closely he should have been fired years ago ! bad days ahead !

12/19/2020 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Plausible deniability!

Just like 9.5 did with McDonald shooting!
This way Groot is not responsible for these officers misconduct!

12/19/2020 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Phil the Thrill said...

Top news story on all local stations, mayor ranting her anti police rant, look for... 5 million dollar payout for raid « victim »/ zéro dollars to firefighter killed by 15 year old who will be let out at age 18, if not remanded to guardian, cuz the parents aren’t anywhere to be found. Our tax dollars at work again.

12/19/2020 07:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She will just fire him, he is an idiot who made this bed. Also good luck with the arbitrator the city is broke.

12/19/2020 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this happened over a year ago what are they waiting for, give her a check and move on.

12/19/2020 07:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I my opinion no one is in control of this Department!

How many search warrants were executed by this team?
How many search warrants did the supervisors approve before this warrant?
How many search warrants did this requesting office draft prior to this search warrant?

How many times was this CI used as witness for search warrants?
What are the past crimes this CI been involved in prior to this search warrant?

Has anyone on this team been trained on the drafting and execution of search warrants in Illinois?
I know hard question to ask!
Even harder to answer?

12/19/2020 07:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love J Cat and everything he has done so far. Fuck Groot

12/19/2020 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He needs to triple dog dare her. Merry Christmas.

12/19/2020 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He knows he's going to be fired so he made the offer to resign in an attempt to get something out of the city. The city is not going to be dumb enough to accept that offer. They can just wait him out.

12/19/2020 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Over the last couple years, I have repeatedly requested up the chain to get guys and gals search warrant trained. The answer was always the same " I hear they are putting together a SW class soon run by Matt Cline. Yet the classes never materialized. Matt Cline is useless in many other ways besides failing at being a legacy commander. As a Sgt, I would always send my young team members to SW classes. I attended several as a young PO and probably when I was running teams. There were also older guys on teams to show the new kids how to do it correctly. Sure, occasional mistakes were made and that is part of the deal when dealing with snitches, by definition they are lying pieces of shit. However, ya gotta do the homework. Surveillance, utility checks, house checks, garbage pulls, verification controlled purchases etc etc. SW-101 you stupid MFr's who the hell is in charge anyway? When you take inexperienced stupid "merit" Lieutenants and above and place them in street cop positions (like tact, gangs,sat, narcotics) expect stupid things to follow. Instead, try picking some guys who made rank by passing a test and who also did some god blessed police work before sitting in as the WC. You know, the salty old guys and gals that actually used handcuffs, a stick, called in felony arrests, wrote and reviewed 100's of SW'' responded to their own CR #.- real life police experience. Not some merit fella with a fancy white and pressed uniform and a china-man. This department is lacking legacy learning and Matt Cline ain't the answer- Obviously!!

12/19/2020 07:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck that, fight and stay the course, Cat. Pol Pot, I mean Lightfoot, funny - you can say wildly inappropriate shit, before and during your tenure as a PUBLIC OFFICIAL, yet you want to fire a lowly FOP president because he isn’t bending his knee to you. How fucking weak is that? It’s his 1st amendment right. Oh, what’s that, it’s against general orders. Funny Groot, now you want rules to apply, so long as it’s not you. It’s the typical liberal doctrine, as follows: I can be an asshole to anyone, claim victim hood and innocent in response, dox and try to ruin life.

This coming from a clown that has proven so inept at running a city, dresses like a literal clown (on the daily, not just Clorox Rona clown on halloween) but curiously calls others, like Cat, a clown. Census cowboy, misuse of police on YOUR block, threatening the citizens with social monitoring arrests on live TV, which is wildly dictatorial. Telling a sitting president to “keep Chicago out of your mouth,” (nice ghetto twist - but who TF do you really think you are?). Telling a sitting POTUS to “shut the F-Up.” I can’t tell if Groot thinks she is some banana republic despot ruler or is just an entitled punk bitch who’s got her way for nothing but her color, political affiliation and sexual orientation. Either way, the psychopathic audacity of this ruler means she ought to be ripped from power and shamed into obscurity. But this is Chicago, the idiot ruler will have her way and more idiots will vote for her.

12/19/2020 08:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We might just get our retro ! Her hatred for John is greater than her hatred of the profession of POLICE .

12/19/2020 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Mayor wants John Catanzara gone. This is just a witch hunt so she can hold of for a weak FOP president. We need to give our full support to our FOP president. Fuck Groot!

12/19/2020 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I attended Phil's search class. No Phil fan but it was a very good course.

12/19/2020 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spot on about search warrant 101. Over 30 years experience with them and you develop certain protective protocols. The briefing, of course, is one of them. I go so far as to put the copy of the warrant to be served on colored paper so that officers don't inadvertently serve the wrong document(s). Confirmation of where the search is going down is also part of the process.

You can't get any simpler than "they screwed up -- big time" and when you mess up you 'fess up. The city should have settled this immediately. And there should have been some serious ass kicking.

12/19/2020 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O'Grady continued the search warrant class then Matt Cline. I know it was done on a large scale at the United Center one year then at McCormick place a couple years ago. All the Tact Teams attended

12/19/2020 08:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On Friday, Catanzara offered to resign as a cop, under one condition. “I will resign my spot at CPD effective immediately if they give our officers the retro pay they deserve. Period. You want me gone from the police department? There’s the gauntlet. Call my bluff. I dare you,” Catanzara said.

Big John all you have to do is announce instead that you're a communist and she'll bend over back wards for your every demand. Of course we'll know that you are and will always be a American Patriot...

12/19/2020 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not sure why anyone is going above and beyond the call of duty by extending themselves and doing search warrants. You get paid the same if you sit in your car and read the paper as you do by putting yourself in harms way by doing these search warrants. No one cares anymore ... NO ONE. Kim Foxx is releasing gun offenders and 90% of drug cases don’t even make it past a probable cause hearing. Knowing that , why is anyone doing these search warrants?! Too much can wrong where you can either get injured , killed , sued , fired , suspended so on and so forth. There should be a Surgeon General type warning when you take this job that reads , doing police work can be hazardous to your health.

12/19/2020 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't she get tired of Catanzara flattening her every time they tangle? Great job 👍

12/19/2020 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She a clown Cookie the clown. No she is a angry hateful clown . Cookie was a good clown and Lori is no good bum clown!

12/19/2020 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dag JCat I like that !!! No one stand for us or with us so thank you I wish you the best. God bless you.

12/19/2020 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow !! We need more Catanzara's in the world.

12/19/2020 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently Groot didn't learn the important lesson from the Nixon era Watergate scandal.

That when the story finally fully comes out, it may turn out that the coverup was worse than the crime.

12/19/2020 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officers! Everyone of us needs to be doxxing Groot at every opportunity.
Begin posting her daily activities as seen by you on or off duty.
Let her know we have eyes on her.
IMO she is a step below Rahm.

Hey Groot...F-U!

12/19/2020 09:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John Catanzara, president of the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 7, is facing possible dismissal from the Chicago Police Department for offensive posts on social media, it was disclosed at the monthly meeting of the city’s police disciplinary panel.

The case could be decided by the full Chicago Police Board in the coming months.






They are trying to bang Cats over getting a police report about the crime EJ and Pfacker did by blocking a highway. If the Supe can break the law, this city and dept is a joke.

Do we need to march? Protest?

12/19/2020 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About 3 years ago a class was given by the narcotics superstars in which all on duty tact teams had to attend. The bottom line that came out of the class was DONT DO SEARCH WARRANTS you will be sued in the end. One of the officers giving the class said he had been sued over 30 times.

12/19/2020 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NO freedom of speech on privately owned social media platforms??

What if you call out the mayor for being a moron?

What if you call the Governor OBESE?

What if you complain about retro?

How many days is it worth waving a flag and saying you a TRUMP GUY in a uniform?
(we have had people do this already for Alderman in political ads)
Is it political to stand behind the superintendent while he has one of his NEW CONFERENCES with the mayor? IS it political? Can an officer refuse to stand up?

ON a side note why is it that the City of Chicago is not investigating the hundreds of officers whose identities were stolen? Why is human resource not answering any phone calls at 9 am when they are supposed to be working? You telling me that the mighty financial crime unit does not investigate breaches of Police department computers and officer person info? (what do they do?)

BY THE WAY ALL THE INFO WAS TAKEN FROM THE DIRECT DEPOSIT SYSTEM...

12/19/2020 09:45:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Cline's search warrant class was the best in service training ever given.

12/19/2020 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous promote me said...

Heard at the news conference a reporter asking how Spencer (011) was promoted when 11 leads the city in homicides, is this a reward? Larry says how hard he works (bullshit) and Brown saying how he wont talk about personnel changes.

He wont talk about personnel changes cause then the public would know all about how much this costs the taxpayer and how promotions are done by politics, nepotism, favoritism and clout not ability. Cant talk about it cause the jig would be up. Larry knows that too, the only thing these mops (merits) are hard working at is ASS kissin

12/19/2020 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here we go again with that “building trust” bullshit. Remind me again, would got the ball rolling on that trust building (since 1992) was it community representative 3-1/2 Year Wonder the RevDrJugghead SpecialEd Phd or was it the lower energy, unenthusiastic, disappearing duck-dodge Hushed Browns?

Lyin’Larri arm chairing again WITHOUT THE FACTS. She won’t stand up for the police no matter what. A mistake was made and mistakes occasionally happen. This wasn’t delivering a refrigerator to the wrong address where the delivery man can expect to be directed to the next house over. Somehow stuttering prick Lyin’Larri thinks these tense warrant situations can be adjusted like a “dimmer switch”. Larri and her knowingly lying to coverup will now be more costly than the original guaranteed standard City Settlement award package.
Hushed Browns will have to take this on his way out too.

A conspiracy theory, but I wouldn’t be surprised if CookCo States Atty won’t use this event and maybe, who knows, an CCSAO operative may orchestrated the coverup to entrap Larri. Heck, Larri may have even done the coverup purposely to enhance any future disciplinary reform or a civil rights prosecution. LARRI IS THAT VINDICTIVE.
If there isn’t a shakeup or housecleaning in the city law department, then it confirms the coverup was diabolical plot.
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Put up or shut up. Yessir.
F+ckin’ A !
JCat has the ball and angry imbecile Lyin’Larri will be the one to fall and hard at that. Larri will not last long at her current employment occupancy. Keep it up JCat.

Sucks to be you Larri.

12/19/2020 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Again...retro pay is not a bonus. It is your pay you should have been receiving. Why would anyone settle for less than 100%.

12/19/2020 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Department has failed with search warrants. This is the fault of the exempt members of the department. They say they want search warrants and make young officers feel they need to do them to impress them. Officers are not doing their homework when a CI gives them information, they take it as the truth and write up the warrant. Then execute and it’s a bad warrant and the CI watches and laughs cause he just f%# you. The next time you are getting ready to do a search warrant [hopefully never] asked someone with a gold star to come along. I can tell you the answer will be no. They may say they are busy or have done their fair share. Then look up how many they have done , which you can on the computer and you will see none. Exempt like to brag around each other how many search warrants their officers have done. If you do a search warrant and it goes bad the exempt will not want to know a thing about it and hang you out to dry. If you are going to do a search warrant please do your homework and surveillance and ensure the information is correct and then double check then triple check. Better yet don’t do them thus you can’t screw up. Who cares what the exempt think it’s you ass on the line not theirs.

12/19/2020 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm pretty sure it violates labor law to fire a union president especially for things that happened years before he became the union president that they already knew about.....

12/19/2020 10:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SSC you are so right again. If the city fires Catanzara than they make him a martyr and a rally point for the members of the department. Even the Mayor is not that dumb, well maybe I am giving her to much credit. Also, by firing him, that opens the door for him to challenge her in the next mayoralty election. I am not saying he can win but it will give her big time headaches. I can just see Catanzara going to a black community meeting and pointing out crime numbers and statistics which occurred under term in office. As someone once said," What do you got to loose by voting for me". Interesting

12/19/2020 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I was on the tact team, we all attended a day long class on search warrants at the academy. There were instructors from the States Attorneys office, HIDTA and narcotics supervisors. It was one of the better classes I had been too.

12/19/2020 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I blame the Exempts pushing for numbers. They should know better that these 3 year tactical warriors are gullible. In 025 when Anthony Escamilla was in charge he would try to bully police officers through Sgts and Lts to get them to bring in activity. Most would comply but some veterans didn't. A wagon guy even got an EEOC complaint against him because Escamerit demanded activity while the wagon was on a fixed post in the 30 sector ghetto shooting gallery. Hopefully these gang and tac teams are done with by the new year as rumored. Nothing against these young guys but they are too inexperienced. Most cops with time on the job are too smart to work these teams because they know that you are gambling with your career and livelihood being on them.

12/19/2020 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's great that you finally have an FOP President with some balls. Good for you.

12/19/2020 10:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Never forget that our mayor almost lost her law license when she was in the US attorneys office. It was in for the intervention of Janet Reno she would be a nobody now. Check out In Re Lightfoot (google it up) She couldn’t tell the truth then and she can’t tell the truth now.

12/19/2020 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The arrogant, lying, lil rat, caught once again! LOL Is it true that she is wearing Charlie Chaplin's old cloths?

12/19/2020 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately when he get terminated Lori will make this guy a martyr bit if you look closely he should have been fired years ago ! bad days ahead !

12/19/2020 07:06:00 AM

I'll bet you voted for Biden.

12/19/2020 11:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As far as Catanzara? He’s a mush whose childish antics are gonna hurt you boys and girls. He likes to flex because he’s a glory hound, but he’ll never be bigger than the machine.

- Former CPD, C/W OEMC

12/19/2020 01:02:00 AM

Another Biden voter. Fuck you.

12/19/2020 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, um, his kid “teaches” it now - and only to pre-service supervisors.
He’s a good example of the type of leader who feels the need to keep info to himself, lest he share it, and that person - or some other person for that matter - continues to share it, or improve upon it, or anything other than horde it.

The Training Division people have been trying to work with him for quite some time to develop whatever he has into an actual class, but he keeps giving them the stiff arm. Again, doesn’t want to share.
And, he claims there is a training staff within OCD (or whatever it is now) which may have been true at some point in time, but....

Any in-service training class requires some amount of funding. An effective class addressing the training needs you’ve pointed out would require a large amount of funds in hardware alone. The funding allotted in-service training is primarily derived from revenue generated specifically by us: anov’s, parkers, city movers, etc. We write it, they pay it, and we get a little money back for training. Unfortunately, like so many other things, Groot dried that well to almost cracked earth. Remember those fines Groot started excusing shortly after taking office? Talk about stealthy “de-funding” of the police.

12/19/2020 11:46:00 AM  
Blogger jcat said...

7:06am....


I insult everyone? I can tell you this, when I do I sign my name not hide like a coward!
You bash my team also. The last team did practically nothing in 3 years, especially when it came to moral or fighting.
Merry Christmas

PRESIDENT John Catanzara

12/19/2020 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love it when Lightfoot’s fed up staff undermines her and makes her look like the lying, stupid failure that she truly is.

12/19/2020 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not enough experienced guys teaching the new kids the red flags of search warrants. The warning signs of a bad warrant. Honestly I don't know why anyone would risk their careers on a search warrant in this city. Its just not worth it. Let social justice run its course.

12/19/2020 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Firing JCat has some serious conflict of interest questions. Lightfoot appointed a police hating police board(sounds nuts but it’s Chicago)However, I voted for him thinking things were going to get better for us, but I have to now ask “what has he done that’s positive for us?” Seriously? It’s been 9 months and he’s done nothing for us. Although I agree with him about his love for Trump and hate for Lightfoot but loving Trump does nothing for us. Trump doesn’t control our job quality of life/benefits/contract negotiations. Jcats mouth is actually hurting us. Many were star struck by him, but fighting with the mayor and calling names gets us nothing. She’s a nasty mean person to everyone. She’s someone you can’t even talk to reasonably and professionally. We should have went to arbitration immediately and focused on other things like getting retiree insurance through our own union so guys can leave at 50. He said pension and residency were his top priorities. Well, has he done anything about it? No. Has anything happened on the contract? Still no. Filed for arbitration? No. Many are losing faith in him. I do believe he cares but he is getting played by Lightfoot.

12/19/2020 12:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Groots sex scandal with the murder for hire should be gaining steam...Stand by

12/19/2020 02:36:00 AM

Please explain???

12/19/2020 12:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trash residency too Cat.

12/19/2020 12:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Short asshole DNA...lol nice one!!!

She is a lying bitch-it was reported that she saw the video Wednesday, then later it was Tuesday.

LL actually said she had no recollection of it? A naked black woman being cuffed by the police she despises so much? Seriously???

-No Cop Here

12/19/2020 02:29:00 AM

It sure looks like she lied and through professional career lawyers under the bus. Her story just isn’t believable. You would think her people would start walking out. She’s just pure nasty and very unprofessional. Where are the aldermen?

12/19/2020 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
So they want to fire him for social media posts, but other city employees posting their BS live happily ever after.

12/19/2020 07:03:00 AM

Exactly! He’d have a great case. Big law suit. His own Supt says no but a Lightfoot police hating board says they want to? But CPS teachers, fireman, and many others post terrible stuff and nothing happens? Connected cops not fired for much much much worse? Ridiculous

12/19/2020 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Groot's head was shaking while she was being interviewed about the search warrant mess yesterday. Either she had a case of das tremens and was burning off some bad hooch or she has some neuro muscular disease.

12/19/2020 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah I remember the class that was called for days on end and no one would ever answer the phone to register....Kinda like the shotgun training class that was full the day they posted it...and a bunch of other who you know training.....BUT that was when i gave a shit....1st and 16th till I make the next move out of here!

12/19/2020 12:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you are staying because you like the job and coworkers, that’s one thing. But staying for money is insane. For argument sake, assume 100k is the average of your highest consecutive 4 years of your last 10 years. You currently get 100k minus 9% pension and 5% state income tax, a total of 14% taken from your salary that a retiree doesn’t have taken out. 100,000-14,000= 86,000. A yearly pension for a guy maxed out at 100k would be 75,000. So, because retirees do not pay into the pension or state income tax, the difference between 86,000 and 75,000 is $11,000. Over the course of 365 days, that $11,000 comes to $30.13 a day. Over the course of the 212 days a year you are required to work(subtracting for RDOs, BFDs, PDays, and Furlo days) that comes to $51.88 a day. For a 9 hour tour of duty that comes to $5.76 an hour. Before federal tax! For fucks sake, minimum wage is $14 an hour in Chicago, $13 an hour in surrounding Cook County, and $10 an hour across the rest of the state. Retire and go work at McDonald’s or Walmart if it’s about the money, because you’d make more doing that.

12/19/2020 01:19:00 AM

I’m going to assume all your math is correct and not even double check it. That said, you left out one huge part of the equation - HEALTHCARE. go do a little homework and you’ll see what kind of premiums are out there and adjust your numbers and you’ll see why guys stay past 29 & a day to hit that magical 55. Co-pays on three or four kids with braces and surgeries not completely covered can be quite expensive. Then there’s physical therapy for sports related injuries that aren’t always covered, etc., etc.

So do I want to go work at Walmart or McDonald’s or some other place full-time in order to maybe get in their likely substandard health insurance coverage (ours is actually VERY good and reasonably priced if you compare to others)? Or would it be easier to stay put till 55, and make really good money for doing next to nothing (if you know how to play the game kid)? I won’t even get into the details of Special Employment for time and a half... go ask someone with time on the job to tell you all about it and maybe you’ll understand. Better yet, maybe it’ll still be around when you have enough time on the job to take advantage of it. If the city was smart, they would buy out guys with time on like that and give them health care at 29 and a day regardless of age. But until 55, here I stay doing the bare minimum and making damn good money busting my ass at Special Employment ;-)

12/19/2020 01:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The plan is in motion ....... stay tuned

12/19/2020 01:09:00 PM  
Blogger Hydra said...

To Anonymous at 0706, Lori is that you?

12/19/2020 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

- Former CPD, C/W OEMC

12/19/2020 01:02:00 AM

What is a C/W OEMC?

12/19/2020 01:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fire him over an offensive (to her at least not everyone) Facebook post? Sorry, she will lose and have to pay him millions, sounds like she is already creating a hostile work enviroment for him, along with the entire CPD.

Other PDs in Illinois have fired guys for that same thing and they sued and successfully got thier job back along with $$$. She thinks she is a dicator, most level headed people would call her vindictive, hostile, rude condensending, etc, etc

12/19/2020 01:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Who is giving the class on common sense? Might make the search wareant class a non factor!

12/19/2020 01:43:00 AM



No kidding.

It’s a big no no when you hit the wrong house. But even more embarassing (and costly) when the cameras are rolling and common sense doesnt kick in and you dont show a bit of empathy for an old naked woman. Plus, people dont realize thats the whole purpose of a search warrant is to catch the offender literally with their pants down. In this case, didnt work out so well. This bit of news was plastered all over national TV. Another black eye for law enforcement and CPD.

12/19/2020 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This will be the worst contract po s get in recent memory. And the city won't be to blame.

12/19/2020 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A coward wrote:
John Catanzara won election because of the failure of the past President who failed to speak up . The majority of his ticket was filled with cops just like him who were suspended on numerous occasions including domestics off duty and various other allegations which were sustained . Since day one he has done nothing but attack people . The majority of cops on this job have no idea of how he is personally . He has insulted everyone including pro-police Aldermen . He has made promises he will never keep ! From day one he has decided he knows best and he really know nothing . .........

I have known John for 25 years. He attacks only assholes that go after him. He has done more good than he gets credit. Always sticking up for the individual against the mob, social clique of bullies, or self righteous "I'm entitled" D bags like yourself. He isn't prone to lie. He has repeated misinformation from others, But outright lie, No. Insulting aldermen? Boo Hoo! I don't see any of them standing up on the council floor calling out the daily insults hurled at the police.

As far as John's alleged racist posts......I laugh, There isn't a racist thought that forms in his head. In many ways Groot is marginalizing a guy that is willing to work with her. He just won't allow her to run rough shod over him or the membership he represents as she panders to radicals

12/19/2020 02:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just like the New York vs. Body count poll, can we get a vote with New Yorkers as to who is the worst mayor in the country. Throw in Los Angeles also into the mix. Groot should probably win hands down. Throw in Cuomo. Atlanta Mayor also. Oh, heck, all big city democratic mayors.

12/19/2020 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wait until the VRI lawsuit hits the news

12/19/2020 02:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She stole that line from mayor mumbles, why not it worked for him.

12/19/2020 03:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Groot got caught lying and is deflecting the media attention to JC. The Chgo way, just another example of wagging the dog. nothing to see here look over there.

12/19/2020 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On Friday, Catanzara offered to resign as a cop, under one condition. “I will resign my spot at CPD effective immediately if they give our officers the retro pay they deserve. Period. You want me gone from the police department? There’s the gauntlet. Call my bluff. I dare you,” Catanzara said.


What a jackass. Can’t believe you guys & gals elected this loose canon. You guys get all giddy when he runs his mouth challenging the mayor and the council. What you don’t realize is that only hurts you in the long run.

12/19/2020 03:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nymous said...
John Catanzara won election because of the failure of the past President who failed to speak up . The majority of his ticket was filled with cops just like him who were suspended on numerous occasions including domestics off duty and various other allegations which were sustained . Since day one he has done nothing but attack people . The majority of cops on this job have no idea of how he is personally . He has insulted everyone including pro-police Aldermen . He has made promises he will never keep ! From day one he has decided he knows best and he really know nothing . He has not mentioned he fired the secretary of legal defense a former cop who is battling cancer . He also hired a board members daughter to take her place and did not consult the Board to hire her . Sad times are ahead for cops because of his stooge who just doesn’t get it . Today across this country police departments should take steps to make people like the police and not hate them . Unfortunately when he get terminated Lori will make this guy a martyr bit if you look closely he should have been fired years ago ! bad days ahead !

12/19/2020 07:06:00 AM

Better just to say ,you is a f u lori asss kisser

12/19/2020 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like how JCat stands up to the Chicago Machine, but why in God's name are coppers still on Fakebook!!? It highly censors conservatives, shuts down accounts for a month at a time, for rhetoric that they deem "Dangerous". It's run by radical socialists, that obviously despise law enforcement! I finally woke up a few weeks ago, and stopped going on there. The radicals will dig deep to jam Coppers up for old posts. F Fakebook!!

12/19/2020 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A good administrator needs a fallguy for every occasion. You don't stay in charge long if you have to take the blame for everything you do or don't do. Don't even think about a new plan until you have some goof in place to set up if the plan fails. It's politics 101.

12/19/2020 04:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
Lighthead is racist, sexist, and anti Catholic. SHE should resign

12/19/2020 12:17:00 AM"

Well she IS a communist.

12/19/2020 04:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
John Catanzara won election because of the failure of the past President who failed to speak up . The majority of his ticket was filled with cops just like him who were suspended on numerous occasions including domestics off duty and various other allegations which were sustained . Since day one he has done nothing but attack people . The majority of cops on this job have no idea of how he is personally . He has insulted everyone including pro-police Aldermen . He has made promises he will never keep ! From day one he has decided he knows best and he really know nothing . He has not mentioned he fired the secretary of legal defense a former cop who is battling cancer . He also hired a board members daughter to take her place and did not consult the Board to hire her . Sad times are ahead for cops because of his stooge who just doesn’t get it . Today across this country police departments should take steps to make people like the police and not hate them . Unfortunately when he get terminated Lori will make this guy a martyr bit if you look closely he should have been fired years ago ! bad days ahead !

12/19/2020 07:06:00 AM"

Lost your spot on Washington Ave, didn't ya? At least Cantazara has the brass to say what the previous FOP administrations wouldn't, but always needed to be said. I wonder how much money and perks previous administrations members have made "off the books" paid by the city and "friends" of the city?

12/19/2020 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why does anyone stay on past 29 and a day?? After that, your actually loosing money! Get smart people....leave!

12/18/2020 09:47:00 AM

Because 100k is more then 75k even after you account for pension contributions and taxes.

12/18/2020 06:43:00 PM

If you are staying because you like the job and coworkers, that’s one thing. But staying for money is insane. For argument sake, assume 100k is the average of your highest consecutive 4 years of your last 10 years. You currently get 100k minus 9% pension and 5% state income tax, a total of 14% taken from your salary that a retiree doesn’t have taken out. 100,000-14,000= 86,000. A yearly pension for a guy maxed out at 100k would be 75,000. So, because retirees do not pay into the pension or state income tax, the difference between 86,000 and 75,000 is $11,000. Over the course of 365 days, that $11,000 comes to $30.13 a day. Over the course of the 212 days a year you are required to work(subtracting for RDOs, BFDs, PDays, and Furlo days) that comes to $51.88 a day. For a 9 hour tour of duty that comes to $5.76 an hour. Before federal tax! For fucks sake, minimum wage is $14 an hour in Chicago, $13 an hour in surrounding Cook County, and $10 an hour across the rest of the state. Retire and go work at McDonald’s or Walmart if it’s about the money, because you’d make more doing that.

12/19/2020 01:19:00 AM"

A common sensical and critical thinker. The thing is there are a dying breed of old dogs that have nothing outside of this job. The financial argument to retire and if you want to work another job to make some spending money outside of the pension just doesn't resonate with that generation of cop. Look at it this way, they're paying into the pension while they should be taking money out, and statistically won't live long enough to take out too much more than they paid in.

12/19/2020 04:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" Anonymous said...
I’m not so sure this will fly. It’s appears like revenge from city hall. Revenge for what though? JCat hasn’t done anything except argue with Lightfoot. Fired for social media posts? The Supt says not to fire but the Lightfoot police board wants to anyway? The police board is very bias. So they want to fire JCat for posts but an off duty Sgt shoots an unarmed kid and doesn’t get fired? Really? Very shady.

12/19/2020 12:47:00 AM"

According to the rumor mill Cantazara isn't a Nation of Islam member and Louis Farraclown acolyte.

12/19/2020 04:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sad times are ahead for cops because of his stooge who just doesn’t get it. Today across this country police departments should take steps to make people like the police and not hate them . Unfortunately when he get terminated Lori will make this guy a martyr bit if you look closely he should have been fired years ago ! bad days ahead !

*************************

The last 2 FOP presidents were stooges. At least J Cat is OUR stooge. He's an advocate and he speaks out and calls our enemies on their BS. Now get off the blog troll and go back to printing up flyers for your next attempt at the FOP election.

12/19/2020 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been retired for 10 years but I can't seem to think who the Deputy daughter was who told me that if you were not on tact you were not the real police. Daddy made her a youth officer and she was as worthless as she was as a P.O I think daddy was the commander of 12 for a while before he became a deputy. Sorry but being old makes me forget, but specialist units are good doing nothing and stealing time, the best to all of you and stay safe

12/19/2020 06:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The swamp in Chicago is so deep Groot needs a snorkel to even breath.

Larry is a bully but in truth a complete coward. Groot is a liar and anyone with half a brain knows it. This all looks very bad for the Murder King. Still this hateful little creature will land on it's feet.

Can't imagine any previous union boss doing what JCat has done. He's got balls. And then there is Much-Heralded, the ballless wonder, the fearful leader.

Did you all happen to read about the Baton Rouge PD union VP that was fired by the mayor a week before Christmas and he's got cancer and doing chemo treatments. Fired for giving an unauthorized interview to a former local television reporter, just weeks after he sued the department over the internal investigation. The reporter came out defending the union VP. Said some good things. This is all a personal thing because of tensions between a shithead mayor, the spineless police chief and the fact they were mad over the billboards the union put up. Evil mayor, Larry's twin. They have problems like the CPD with the mayor and chief. The officer has enough stress fighting cancer now they fire him and he loses insurance? Lots of rotten people and places to work.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/crime_police/article_7e014e94-3f17-11eb-bce8-cbf8c599fb7e.html

12/19/2020 07:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
“The retro pay they deserve.”

Nice move John ..... a game of chess with Bettlejuice

That leaves it wide open.

......,....

Until she has him fired and fucks us anyway !!!!!!!

12/19/2020 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sad times are ahead for cops because of his stooge who just doesn’t get it . Today across this country police departments should take steps to make people like the police and not hate them . Unfortunately when he get terminated Lori will make this guy a martyr bit if you look closely he should have been fired years ago ! bad days ahead !

12/19/2020 07:06:00 AM

No, you don't get it. When you have a police-hating, nut-case for a mayor who refuses to bargain in good faith, traditional methods of negotiating are useless. J-CAT stands proud for his members against her profound, meddling disrespect of and for CPD. She is your typical police-hating liberal. She hates the police yet uses them to keep her and her family safe.

And what steps should police departments across the country take for people to like the police instead of hate them? Please impart your wisdom. But first know, Police Officers are already heroes for daily risking their lives for us. And know, law enforcement is most times a controversial and adversarial business. By its very nature and on any given day, there will be some people who love the police, some who dislike the police and others who hate the police. The police serve and protect us, although they are not servants or lap dogs, but please tell what more they can do to make people like them. And btw, it is obvious you are not a Police Officer.

12/19/2020 07:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Coming to a PC near you (eLearning). Search Warrant training will be added to the mandatory 40 hours required in-service training due to the consent decree. Have fun boys and girls!!!

12/19/2020 08:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Groot isn’t going to pay a dime in retro, she is going to cry broke due to covid. Let’s wake up! The city and majority of citizens hate us. She was on the radio and asked if CPD is included in the covid vaccines for first responders and said no, we don’t have direct contact with patients like CFD and don’t need to “jump the line”.

She doesn’t care if JCAT volunteers to resign because she is going to order the police board to fire him. They do what she tells them to do, anyone who thinks any differently is soft.

I don’t know where Brown got the balls to say JCAT should only be suspended for a year but I’m sure Groot has told him to change his tune and go with the program.

Get out now while you still can

12/19/2020 08:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

recall the fire strike in the 8os and the CFD union press was a guy named MOON something and saw him do the nobilist thing we ever saw a man do as a judge ordered him to have his people return to work of face jail time,, well he choose jail time and this guy was on the LTs list to and he did the time in the county jail and received accolades from all over the country and the world for his stand up demeanor for his men and his union,,,,after the strike was over he was voted out as Pres,,,, go figure,

12/19/2020 08:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

07:06 are you a clouted up ""hash browns" guy per chance??

12/19/2020 08:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About 4-5yrs ago that search warrant class was taught at the United Center by Lt. Cline (Phil’s son) and some others. It was attended by damn near every unit and tact team. Still got my handouts from the class.
Yes the hand out were good but also remember little cline in front the class with the feds stating that one day a judge wouldn't sign his warrant because the judge didn't believe there was enough pc in his warrant. So cline goes on to say I just waited 2 hours and had another judge sign it. I remember a couple of feds looking at him with a wtf did you just say to class. Little cline big ego phatty cline big ego and stroke to boot. By the way ask the old man about the Marquette 10 and you'll here crickets.

12/19/2020 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why does anyone stay on past 29 and a day?? After that, your actually loosing money! Get smart people....leave!

12/18/2020 09:47:00 AM

Because 100k is more then 75k even after you account for pension contributions and taxes.

12/18/2020 06:43:00 PM

If you are staying because you like the job and coworkers, that’s one thing. But staying for money is insane. For argument sake, assume 100k is the average of your highest consecutive 4 years of your last 10 years. You currently get 100k minus 9% pension and 5% state income tax, a total of 14% taken from your salary that a retiree doesn’t have taken out. 100,000-14,000= 86,000. A yearly pension for a guy maxed out at 100k would be 75,000. So, because retirees do not pay into the pension or state income tax, the difference between 86,000 and 75,000 is $11,000. Over the course of 365 days, that $11,000 comes to $30.13 a day. Over the course of the 212 days a year you are required to work(subtracting for RDOs, BFDs, PDays, and Furlo days) that comes to $51.88 a day. For a 9 hour tour of duty that comes to $5.76 an hour. Before federal tax! For fucks sake, minimum wage is $14 an hour in Chicago, $13 an hour in surrounding Cook County, and $10 an hour across the rest of the state. Retire and go work at McDonald’s or Walmart if it’s about the money, because you’d make more doing that.

12/19/2020 01:19:00 AM

....................

Not the pay , it’s the insurance!!!!!

12/19/2020 09:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was on a tact team. I fully admit having no clue. I got put on one because I liked to work and wrote decent paper, but I had no knowledge of search warrants. Like most, definitely naive & not a lot of actual time on job. I was on during the 90’s and 2000’s...like everything on this job, I only remember a “chosen few” from tact who got to go to the class. I did some warrants that produced. No big fish stories though. I don’t remember ever hitting a wrong house, but I’d be lying if I said that I knew what I was doing. Search Warrant classes should absolutely be required before anyone goes to tact, ocd - any unit that regularly does them. Think of how many lawsuits are the result of SW gone bad.

12/19/2020 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It’s not hard to verify a residence. You don’t need special training for that. Open your F’n eyes.

12/19/2020 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, there might be a silver lining...maybe this video will be the spark that gets Lightfoot removed, the same way that Rahm got his ass burnt by a video. That would be poetic.

12/19/2020 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jr still gives this class. Funny thing is that the Pierre that be believe the other classes (use of force, custodial escort, officer wellness) matter more than the classes that actually Benefit the officers. This class would help all the officers
Who wrote warrants these days (can’t name them because this dept is so backwards from the last six months). Bad warrants happen, that’s the game, learn how to fix this and move on.

12/19/2020 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We had confidence in JCAT before the election and since voting him in, he has exceeded all of our expectations. Thank you PRESIDENT Catanzara!

12/19/2020 11:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12/18/2020 06:43:00 PM

If you are staying because you like the job and coworkers, that’s one thing. But staying for money is insane. For argument sake, assume 100k is the average of your highest consecutive 4 years of your last 10 years. You currently get 100k minus 9% pension and 5% state income tax, a total of 14% taken from your salary that a retiree doesn’t have taken out. 100,000-14,000= 86,000. A yearly pension for a guy maxed out at 100k would be 75,000. So, because retirees do not pay into the pension or state income tax, the difference between 86,000 and 75,000 is $11,000. Over the course of 365 days, that $11,000 comes to $30.13 a day. Over the course of the 212 days a year you are required to work(subtracting for RDOs, BFDs, PDays, and Furlo days) that comes to $51.88 a day. For a 9 hour tour of duty that comes to $5.76 an hour. Before federal tax! For fucks sake, minimum wage is $14 an hour in Chicago, $13 an hour in surrounding Cook County, and $10 an hour across the rest of the state. Retire and go work at McDonald’s or Walmart if it’s about the money, because you’d make more doing that.
AMEN & THANK YOU!!!!

12/19/2020 11:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger jcat said...
7:06am....


I insult everyone? I can tell you this, when I do I sign my name not hide like a coward!
You bash my team also. The last team did practically nothing in 3 years, especially when it came to moral or fighting.
Merry Christmas

PRESIDENT John Catanzara

12/19/2020 11:54:00 AM


There’s the narcissist we all know he is responding.

“President” in all caps.

Point proven.

You’re your own worst enemy John. Only you don’t know it.

12/19/2020 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Firing JCat has some serious conflict of interest questions. Lightfoot appointed a police hating police board(sounds nuts but it’s Chicago)However, I voted for him thinking things were going to get better for us, but I have to now ask “what has he done that’s positive for us?” Seriously? It’s been 9 months and he’s done nothing for us. Although I agree with him about his love for Trump and hate for Lightfoot but loving Trump does nothing for us. Trump doesn’t control our job quality of life/benefits/contract negotiations. Jcats mouth is actually hurting us. Many were star struck by him, but fighting with the mayor and calling names gets us nothing. She’s a nasty mean person to everyone. She’s someone you can’t even talk to reasonably and professionally. We should have went to arbitration immediately and focused on other things like getting retiree insurance through our own union so guys can leave at 50. He said pension and residency were his top priorities. Well, has he done anything about it? No. Has anything happened on the contract? Still no. Filed for arbitration? No. Many are losing faith in him. I do believe he cares but he is getting played by Lightfoot.


Who do you think has the power It is not the FOP. How do you think he can magically get what you want. Did you run? here is an election where one can make a difference.

12/20/2020 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a jackass. Can’t believe you guys & gals elected this loose canon. You guys get all giddy when he runs his mouth challenging the mayor and the council. What you don’t realize is that only hurts you in the long run.

12/19/2020 03:16:00 PM

And your alternate solution is? All you did was try to insult him and the members he represents. You offered nothing positive. Fuck you and F.U.L.L.

12/20/2020 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We stay cuz some of us can't afford the insurance at full price and are barely turning 51!!! I won't be 55 for 4 more years and I don't want to work just for the insurance but I also don't want to retire just to get another job!

12/20/2020 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a jackass. Can’t believe you guys & gals elected this loose canon. You guys get all giddy when he runs his mouth challenging the mayor and the council. What you don’t realize is that only hurts you in the long run.

12/19/2020 03:16:00 PM

Do you remember what it was like for a long time before? And would have been the same again if John had not been elected. Same do nothing FOP as usual, is that what you wanted? The other guy didn't say a thing about anything and the most ever done was a whiny letter that could and was easily ignored by the mayor and the rest. They really didn't want John because he did speak up and asked and expected answers to tough questions that were never asked before. Groot hates him because he can't push him around like they could the others. So what should be done oh wise one? Tell us how you'd handle Groot.

12/20/2020 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you are staying because you like the job and coworkers, that’s one thing. But staying for money is insane. For argument sake, assume 100k is the average of your highest consecutive 4 years of your last 10 years. You currently get 100k minus 9% pension and 5% state income tax, a total of 14% taken from your salary that a retiree doesn’t have taken out. 100,000-14,000= 86,000. A yearly pension for a guy maxed out at 100k would be 75,000. So, because retirees do not pay into the pension or state income tax, the difference between 86,000 and 75,000 is $11,000. Over the course of 365 days, that $11,000 comes to $30.13 a day. Over the course of the 212 days a year you are required to work(subtracting for RDOs, BFDs, PDays, and Furlo days) that comes to $51.88 a day. For a 9 hour tour of duty that comes to $5.76 an hour. Before federal tax! For fucks sake, minimum wage is $14 an hour in Chicago, $13 an hour in surrounding Cook County, and $10 an hour across the rest of the state. Retire and go work at McDonald’s or Walmart if it’s about the money, because you’d make more doing that.

12/19/2020 01:19:00 AM

I’m going to assume all your math is correct and not even double check it. That said, you left out one huge part of the equation - HEALTHCARE. go do a little homework and you’ll see what kind of premiums are out there and adjust your numbers and you’ll see why guys stay past 29 & a day to hit that magical 55. Co-pays on three or four kids with braces and surgeries not completely covered can be quite expensive. Then there’s physical therapy for sports related injuries that aren’t always covered, etc., etc.

So do I want to go work at Walmart or McDonald’s or some other place full-time in order to maybe get in their likely substandard health insurance coverage (ours is actually VERY good and reasonably priced if you compare to others)? Or would it be easier to stay put till 55, and make really good money for doing next to nothing (if you know how to play the game kid)? I won’t even get into the details of Special Employment for time and a half... go ask someone with time on the job to tell you all about it and maybe you’ll understand. Better yet, maybe it’ll still be around when you have enough time on the job to take advantage of it. If the city was smart, they would buy out guys with time on like that and give them health care at 29 and a day regardless of age. But until 55, here I stay doing the bare minimum and making damn good money busting my ass at Special Employment ;-)

12/19/2020 01:02:00 PM

Very well penned but you have too look at quality of life! Going to that crappy job working for idiots etc!!
Maybe get on wife’s insurance at her company might cost a little more but possibility!!
Think about having every day free to do what you want no days off canceled!!!’ And as far as jobs if you aren’t hooked up with someone after
20+ Years on the job where your landing a job making minimum 25
More likely 30/35 an hour please!!

Just saying retirement is great guess I’m lucky on wifeys Beni’s!!

Good luck and god speed to all of the boys and girls in blue!!

12/20/2020 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A common sensical and critical thinker. The thing is there are a dying breed of old dogs that have nothing outside of this job. The financial argument to retire and if you want to work another job to make some spending money outside of the pension just doesn't resonate with that generation of cop. Look at it this way, they're paying into the pension while they should be taking money out, and statistically won't live long enough to take out too much more than they paid in.

12/19/2020 04:26:00 PM

Check with the pension board and see how many retirees are in their 70’s, 80’s and a few in their 90’s. 30 years ago what you said might be true, no more

12/20/2020 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Previous...
Merry Christmas

PRESIDENT John Catanzara

12/19/2020 11:54:00 AM

—————-

How about this?

“John Catanzara, Sheriff of Cook County”
-or-
“Cook County Sheriff John Catanzara”

Give that some thought JCat...
You could run over Dart like a steamroller!
The County accepts and will combine your Chicago pension time.
(And then you wouldn’t have to worry about residency)


12/20/2020 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok so there are two separate posts in one here,?I will address the first one, yes Phil Clube did teach a search warrant class but to say that one hasn’t been taught since is not accurate, I’m fact, one was taught by none other then the 018th district hotdog flipper aka ex tact LT, aka ex bike LT, aka the currently stripped in a no pay status LT fat fuck Cronin who allegedly made some sexual comments to girls on his former bike team. So let’s back peddle when we say one hasn’t been taught, it’s been taught alright, by this piece of shit. Word on the street is that he’s about to be cleared and return. Hey 18th district midnight cops, don’t bother to packing a lunch, your new LT will provide you with all the over cooked frozen hot dogs you kids need

12/20/2020 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People it’s clear as an Eskimos diarrhea. If a white officer had shot the mentally challenged young man, your looking at prison. Smell the coffee. Search warrants? Just go back to patrol and answer calls. Give up the jeans and get the barb wired tattoos removed and get ready for your third year on job. We need fop president more than ever. He is a voice and thorn in mayors side. If anyone should be fired it’s her. And cut the amount of aldermen down a third and save a bunch of money.

12/20/2020 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Coming to a PC near you (eLearning). Search Warrant training will be added to the mandatory 40 hours required in-service training due to the consent decree. Have fun boys and girls!!!

12/19/2020 08:36:00 PM


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no it won't the city will just disallow search warrants

12/20/2020 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check with the pension board and see how many retirees are in their 70’s, 80’s and a few in their 90’s. 30 years ago what you said might be true, no more

12/20/2020 01:23:00 AM

The longer you stay on the less pension you'll see. Simple math.

12/20/2020 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It’s not hard to verify a residence. You don’t need special training for that. Open your F’n eyes.

12/19/2020 09:22:00 PM
.......................................................

"Why yes, I think it can very easily be done." Bob Dylan, HWY 61 Revisited.

Spent my last 13 years, each had a three day weekend built in, waking up at my out of State acreage. Pines, ponds, peace, privacy.

I retired mid year and did not set foot in the station house that year until the day I went to 35th and closed the books for good. Some minor surgeries, and used most of my comp time, and of course, well positioned furloughs.

It can be done: I did it!


12/20/2020 11:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



What a jackass. Can’t believe you guys & gals elected this loose canon. You guys get all giddy when he runs his mouth challenging the mayor and the council. What you don’t realize is that only hurts you in the long run.

***

Slow down on your steady soy diet, moron. Loose cannon? Uhm, by having a voice and pushing back against people that have used our GOs to stifle our constitutional rights? That treat us like shit, dox us, malign us in every way shape and form.

Really genius, he’s going to hurt us in the long run? Because we ended up paying for our own squad cars, forfeited a year of retro (money we earned), gave away protections, etc in the last contract. Having FOP presidents that are weak and in bed with the city, now that’s not going to hurt us in the long run? JCat critics are weak ass people that think if they cower in a corner, good fortune will come to them and their masters will stop beating them.

J-Cat, ignore the few morons on this blog. We appreciate your steadfastness, altruism, patriotism and fighting spirit.

12/20/2020 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess the cuck that wrote the ignorant comment on J Cat:
Mark Donahue,
Kevin (tons not) Grahm
Pickles Prieb
F.U. Heavy Loafers

John has done more with his mouth for the F.O.P. than ALL the past presidents in my 30 years.

Funny thing is he even did more as a policeman than them all, even if you include all his medical and suspensions! They really All sucked, Just sucked off the union more, while they spent YOUR MONEY. John isn't allowing the mayor to take away your civil rights, like freedom of speech and the right to confront your lying accusers by anonymous complaints.
Donahue The worst President and lobbyist lodge 7 ever had, Thats saying something with Grahm, Shields, and Angelo

12/20/2020 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
It’s not hard to verify a residence. You don’t need special training for that. Open your F’n eyes.

12/19/2020 09:22:00 PM

You also don’t need a class that tells you in the day of cameras to not handcuff someone naked. Right house or wrong house, it doesn’t play well, but people still do it. So, no you don’t need a class but you probably should have one to drive these points home. I also have to argue about verifying addresses. Seems simple, it’s not. Lots of bullshit addresses in the system.

12/21/2020 03:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
It’s not hard to verify a residence. You don’t need special training for that. Open your F’n eyes.

12/19/2020 09:22:00 PM

You also don’t need a class that tells you in the day of cameras to not handcuff someone naked. Right house or wrong house, it doesn’t play well, but people still do it. So, no you don’t need a class but you probably should have one to drive these points home. I also have to argue about verifying addresses. Seems simple, it’s not. Lots of bullshit addresses in the system.

12/21/2020 03:14:00 AM




Ok then how about a new unwritten rule - if you cannot verify and DOCUMENT with a SOS printout, a previously filed case report, a license plate registering to, etc ... that a guy lives at certain address, then DON"T DO THE WARRANT.

NOBODY CARES ABOUT YOUR DOPE PINCH

12/21/2020 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Deputy that put his daughter in the Youth Division was George Ruckrich. She quit 2 years later and went to Arizona.

12/22/2020 12:10:00 AM  

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