Guilty Plea, Lawsuit is Pending
Conehead is readying the taxpayer checkbook as we speak:
A man who sued the city of Chicago within 40 hours of being arrested by CPD officers who allegedly seized a handgun from his waistband has now pleaded guilty to possessing that firearm. The arrest was caught on video, gaining local exposure on social media.
Lorenzo Williams, 33, pleaded guilty to being a felon in possession of a firearm with a previous conviction and received a three-year sentence from Judge Shelley Sutker-Dermer, according to court records. He is expected to be paroled in January, after serving half of his sentence.
On July 30 last year, Williams was “seen on [police surveillance] video with a handgun in his front waistband. When officers attempted to detain him, he ran, resisted, and attempted to grab his handgun, which put the officers’ and Defendant’s lives in danger,” prosecutors said in a detention petition.
The police camera operators saw “the butt end of a handgun in [Williams’] front middle waistband as he lifted his shirt up” in the 800 block of North Cambridge, a CPD report said.
The gun turned out to be stolen.
His liar lawyer claims there was no basis for the stop, as if camera operators seeing and identifying a handgun in the waistband isn't a direct violation of the Concealed Carry statues - not concealed and not in a holster - and if he hadn't been trying to pull the gun on the cops, he wouldn't have been subject to force necessary to effect the arrest.
So even decent police work will (still) get you sued.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
22 Comments:
Gov. Lardass waddling in on this....
This is why we need an assault weapons ban....
How much will the city settle for.
Just so no hardchargers get it wrong, seeing a bulge is not enough for Ras. Seeing what appears to be a handgun if his shirt was inadvertently lifted is not enough for Ras.
Read the cpd legal bulletin on conceal carry act fully including the examples listed before you do anything if you’re unsure.
He should have been like Dexter.....
The gun turned out to be stolen.
Western Springs Democrat Voter says...
This is why we need more gun laws....Any questions ?
Too bad he didn’t shoot himself in his junk
So who is his lawyer and how much money have they donated to Democrats?
Vanna lets spin BJs wheel
Of settlement?
Any chance the feds.
Can take over the City?
Don't do any proactive work in this fubar city, you will only get fucked over
Concealed carry rules apply to felons carrying stolen firearms?
My sergeant said she can protect us so go out there and make stops and get guns.
Not in a holster may contribute to probable cause, but it’s not a violation of the Firearm Concealed Carry Act.
Reason number 12,420,001 why you should NOT do anything proactive. Give this city and its politicians what they want. Remember , the politicians are the ones that created this lawlessness so let it runs its course. By the way, do you think anyone really cares anymore about gun arrests or arrests in general. In short … they don’t.
Ok.....But want know how deep her clout is....can she dance really good ?
Wrong!!!!! No where in the constitution does it say you need to carry a firearm in a holster. Pretty much the only way you can stop someone on the public way for suspicion of carrying an firearm is; you know the person to be a convicted felon or you know they are under 21 and believed to be carrying a handgun. Or you know the person and run them before stopping them and they do not have a valid ccl or they made no attempt to conceal
Seeing a handgun protruding from a shirt by itself isn’t probable cause or reasonable articulable suspicion. The officer has to have more. This was discussed extensively in the class on constitutional policing. I have a copy of the applicaple laws I could provide to this blog if this page allowed uploads.
..And a judge actually had to hear the merits of this lawsuit to allow the lawsuit to proceed. Since the state of Illinois legalized crime the lawsuit business is the leading business in the state. Drugs, gambling and soon prostitution (yes, they're moving that in Springfield too). No new businesses are coming to Chicago or Illinois. The lithium battery factory is coming to Illinois since no other state wants them (see Bhopal India) .Vegas ain't got shit on Chicago...Sin City it is..
Must be a merit Sergeant
You are correct, you are also missing key details of this event.
He was on CHA property where firearms are prohibited. He also fled when they tried to make contact.
bob VANNA ???
Wrong!!!!! No where in the constitution does it say you need to carry a firearm in a holster. Pretty much the only way you can stop someone on the public way for suspicion of carrying an firearm is; you know the person to be a convicted felon or you know they are under 21 and believed to be carrying a handgun. Or you know the person and run them before stopping them and they do not have a valid ccl or they made no attempt to conceal
Il. vs. Wardlow. All you need is reasonable, articulable, suspicion. We did not know he was a felon, we did not run him prior to the stop, he was not under 21, and we did not know him. What we stated in our GOCR was that we knew we were in a high narcotics traffic area, our experience is that a weapon is usually close by, and he fled upon seeing us. CCSAO took it all the way arguing our correct procedure. 5-4 in law enforcements favor. God bless all of you and keep each other safe. Thank you for still trying.
they saw the firearm, knew him from being on the top 10 in district and knew he was a felon and unable to carry/possess a firearm. All the PC in the world on this one.
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