Good FOP!
Excellent news boys and girls. We've been seeing this pop up in a couple of comment sections, and today it officially hit the FOP website. Things are about to change:
- In 2004, nearly two-thousand Chicago Police officers joined together in a Federal lawsuit against the City of Chicago regarding the use of compensatory time. The officers want to be able to use their compensatory time on dates of their choosing. Lawyers from the Fraternal Order of Police, Lodge # 7, handled the case and alleged that the City was consistently violating the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) whenever requests to use compensatory time were denied. The City typically uses “manpower” as an excuse for refusing to grant compensatory time off. This is all going to change.
Yesterday, the plaintiffs obtained a judgment in their favor and against the City. The City will no longer be able to use the “manpower” excuse for denying compensatory time requests. Rather, the City will be made to follow FLSA requirements and prove that granting a compensatory time off request would result in an “undue disruption” of service. In the future, a system will have to be constructed wherein officers can replace each other when compensatory time is used. Additionally, the Federal Judge ruled that the City’s policy of refusing to pay overtime to a replacement worker is flatly contrary to Department of Labor standards and cannot cause an “undue disruption.”
The Federal Court got it right when it stated that the FLSA does not authorize the City balancing its budgetary and public safety concerns on the backs of police personnel. The Judge has directed our lawyers to meet with the City’s lawyers before the end of the month in order to discuss changes that the City must make in order to bring it into compliance with the FLSA. The Lodge’s intent in this case was to provide its members with the right to use their compensatory time when they desire to use it. Yesterday’s decision should not only allow members to do this, it should result in additional overtime opportunities as well. We will keep you posted with all future developments.
If we're reading this correctly, if you have time on the books and want to use it, YOU CANNOT BE DENIED TIME OFF. Manpower is NOT an excuse. If the Department cannot field a car, they are either going to have to leave it unmanned, allow officers to trade days off with other officers, or pay time-and-a-half to people who are RDO (by seniority) to work the uncovered car. This is huge. The City has been told in no uncertain terms that they are subject to Federal Labor Law. Imagine that. We figure there are two ways this can play out, maybe three:
UPDATE: Sun Times coverage here.
- Daley's $220 million budget hole is about to get bigger - much bigger
- Daley finally redraws the beats and closes 3 districts - a political bomb, but if he isn't running for office again, who cares?
- The City goes for a full scale contract violation, either running one man cars on afternoons/midnights or undercutting the seniority system and throwing PPOs into the breach as they only have to pay them hour-for-hour time, not cash.
UPDATE: Sun Times coverage here.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Aldserman Dixon is running the 010th district into the ground. The bosses need to step up! How about a shackman lawsuit.
In regards to the judge's decision,
The city argued that they ARE VERY SHORT ON MANPOWER and cannot grant time due so easily.
HOWEVER - – Other bosses in the department (Cline etc..) bullshit that we had 13,500 sworn officers. SO . . What’s the REAL truth Mr. City Attorney???
Start bullshiting a federal judge and guess who he’s going to side with?
IN THE MEANTIME, the sergeant (T.L.) that allowed the PBPA to put HIS name on this FLSA Comp-time lawsuit was just FUC%ED OVER by the city and was just recently dumped to midnights in the 015th District.
The city is relentless in screwing over coppers that will stand up for what is right. THE BASTARDS SHOULD be held in contempt of court for continuing to harass and fuc% over workers seeking justice.
The city continues to violate the contract AND the law and just dogs it out in the slow moving arbitration process.
In the process, the taxpayers get screwed for all the money (hundreds of thousands if not MILLIONS) that are wasted because of their incompetence.
wow. I truly hope this does come to fruition; however, I don't see this as unlimited time due. If that is the case, than we could theoretically have a no police day....everyone takes off the same day- at the very least, SOMETHING is looking up around here!!
This is landmark stuff here. I hope all the newer guys realize how long a road this has been and how signigicant a decision this really is. thank you FOP. Sincerly from the bottom of my heart... Thank YOU.
Now if only the FOP could address the residency issue and define merit promotions i think we would all be pretty damn happy.
There goes TRU, SOS, Gun Teams, Saturation Teams and the other bullshit units. Sorry boys and girls time to come back to the beat cars!!!
Is this the Homeboy Shopping Network?!
Because all I'm thinking is "Mo' Money, Mo' Money".
One thing that I have never understood is the ide of closing districts to reduce manpower.
Let's start from the top down. Where are these commanders, inside CAPS lt's, sgt, gagn, tact sgt etc going to go? I bet that they will not be eliminated.
Also, just just you par down the number of districts from 25 to whatever you still have the same square miles of city land to cover.
You could have one district but to cover that one district you still need the same number of po's to cover it as you do 25 districts.
Thank goodness! This should set precedence for all city workers. Oec has been using the "manpower" shortage as a lame excuse for
10 yrs now!
Maybe..just maybe...this will
force management to cut back on the excess officers who work inside or stay on the medical half their careers for an upset stomach.
Nahhhhhh
Ok..this is what I heard..a new,double secret,unit is being planned to help shore up district manpower needs,if and when officers ask for time off. This new unit titled, The "CWB" (cleaning women brigade)unit will be commanded by Bronislawa Gryzbowski. Upon notification of a shortage, brigades of cleaning women,currently working in every unit, will infiltrate the city streets with their buckets and mops and purge the streets of gangs by knocking them senseless with their department approved metal buckets. Street thugs will run in horror when the CWB's appear on the scene.
Anyone hear about the 3 PO's from the 3rd watch in 009 that are about to get arrested for burglary to box cars?
remember it was Cleveland, Ohio FOP that won the original lawsuit that Lodge 7 jumped on the coat tails and it was started by Nolan's team way back. the Leadership of Lodge 7 has NEVER had an original thought in their lives too busy feeding at the money pit. They tried to use the Philadelphia medical coverage plan too.
until fop can control the manpower on the street by demanding a certain level of manning the beat cars like the firemen do this will have little effect I ask anyone to research the current contract that addresses the issue of the use of compensatory time and if management even has to give a reason as to the denial. for this to truly effect management the manning issue must be set in print...
One area where there is NO manpower shortae is in the exempt ranks. If a PO is neded to fill a beat car, get a do-little-or-nothing-political-suckhole out there to fill the breach and work in a damn beat car.
Anyone remember the Booz-Allen report of the mid 90's? The City paid millions for that study and report and then failed to implement many of the recommendations.
Several important recommendations that were ignored: Eliminate layers of middle management (exempt) who are not needed for anything except to fill spots with friends, cronies and golf buddies.
One other recommendation was to eliminate the inspector ranks who inspect for loose threads and other such bullshit on the street. Boox-allen said the City already has a managament system in place and that job should belong to management, Sgts, Lts etc.
They should keep only the auditing arm of the inspectors. The rest should go work districts where they are really needed. Or retire.
The City could eliminate half of all District Commanders tomorrow and never even miss a beat in operations. One commander could handle two districts easily and the City could save millions.
Don't count on that one, where would they put their friends? Efficient? Not the Chicago Police Department.
Residency is an issue that will not be forgotten or dropepd by the FOP. We are he only city in Illinois that cannot by state law bargain for residency. We need to change Illinois law, the FOP has been trying. Daley gets it killed.
I for one would move out in a heartbeat.
shouldn't the Shity pay out to those affected PO's?????
"I'm gonna git paaaaaid!"
Anonymous said...
IN THE MEANTIME, the sergeant (T.L.) that allowed the PBPA to put HIS name on this FLSA Comp-time lawsuit was just FUC%ED OVER by the city and was just recently dumped to midnights in the 015th District.
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LAWSUIT, beeeiiitches! He'll me a LT on midnights in 15 pretty soon!!!!!
Say hello to 10 hour days!
YOU MUST THINK THE CITY HAS NO PLAN.
LOOK FOR THE CITY TO MOVE YOUR DAY OFF.
LOOK FOR TACT AND GANGS TO BE RELIEF CARS. THEY WILL BE UP ,BUT GUESS WHAT THEY WONT GET ANY JOBS.
LOOK FOR TRU OR SOS TO START GETTING RADIO JOBS.
FORGET ALL THAT CRAZY TALK ABOUT OT. THINK OUT THE BOX BROTHER.
LOOK FOR THE TEN PEOPLE IN THE CAPS OFFICE WORKING THE STREET ON THE WEEKENED.
There really is no reason or perk left then to stay on a tact team!! That was the last one, days off! Hello watch! Bye bye wolf pack,angel,event#, dispersal,edge ,mini edge, joint mission,reverse....etc. non-sense that ruined my spirit to work. Back to real police work! Seat belt mission, notifications and tickets.....we are all doomed and need days off.
This is fucking great!!! The city requires me work when I don't want to -- late arrests, beat meetings, court. Now I can take the time from these events and use it when I want to be off -- 13B!!
I am putting my slips in today to be off from 24 December to 02 January. That is plenty of notice for them. King Richie will be shelling out some big bucks to make sure the beat cars are staffed over the 13B period.
OTHER OPTION; THE CITY DOES NOTHING, KEEPS DENYING TIME, AND APPEALS AND WINS....THEY WON'T JUST COMPLY...
There goes TRU, SOS, Gun Teams, Saturation Teams and the other bullshit units. Sorry boys and girls time to come back to the beat cars!!!
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WHILE THEY ARE AT IT, GET RID OF ALL GANG TEAMS, KEEP THE 3 TACT TEAMS PER DIST. GIVES US MORE PEOPLE ON THE WATCH AND MAYBE WILL BOOST THE TALENT ON TACT......HAVE YOU SEEN WHO GOING TO TACT/GANG LATELY...DOG GETTING BACJ THERE CAUSE THEY JUST NEED BODIES...
Glad to see this. It will be interesting to see just how far this goes.
Bring back TARA!
ALDERMAN DIXON THATS THE LADY WHO INITIATED A CR ON DESK PERSONEL BECAUSE THEY DIDNT STOP WRITING A REPORT FOR A VICTIM AND MAKE SOME COPIES FOR HER SHE PRACTICALLY KNOCKED THE LADY OFF THE GROUND I THOUGHT THEY WERE THERE TO HELP PUBLIC AND WHATS UP WITH THAT SECRETARY THAT WORKS FOR HER ALWAYS CALLING THE STATION BECAUSE SHE SEES PEOPLE ON HER BLOCK WE HAVE TO HAVE OUTDOOR ROOLCALL IN FRONT OF HER HOUSE EVERYDAY LIKE SHES THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND I GUESS IT PAYS TO WORK FOR ALDERMAN
ALDERMAN DIXON IS GEHETTO TRASH ITS ONLY A MATTER OF TIME BEFORE THE FEDS INDITE HER
But that would mean I would have to spend more time with my family and that would take away from the fine outstanding citizens from the westside nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!(note "no" is a sarcastic "no")
a great ,great win!!! i am in the lawsuit and encouraged others to join. i named bosses who screwed me and every other cop in the district for time while they took off and ducked out whenever they wanted .i heard many did not join for fear of retaliation. i have no career anyway just lots of time on the job. i have been trying to tell coppers this is bigger than when we went to straight shifts.get invoved people.
This definately sounds like something positive. I like the possible overtime situation.
By the way I want to say thanks to citizen Sam Alt for the editoral he posted in the Sun-Times (Editoral Section) where he stood for the police and their cell phone use. Good job to the coppers who helped this person.
Aldserman Dixon is running the 010th district into the ground. The bosses need to step up! How about a shackman lawsuit.
9/13/2007 12:14:00 AM
I agree. So far she has gotten a CR number on one of the desk crew for not bending over backwards for her and making copies for her soon after election, then she had a guy on days bounced off his car which he has had for 10 years because he told her he could not do anything about the protesers in front of her house, which includes her office in the basement. She didn't like that answer and had Starks personally call the commander and have him bumped off. Now there is a notice in the C.O. book that states "Alderman Dixon wants police presence at ALL of her meetings, regardless if it is police related or not. This includes a SGT and a beat car. SGTS will approach the alderman and introduce themselves and discuss any security matters with the alderman." This is bullshit, yet all the bosses are jumping through hoops to please her.
This will be great. If the department still wants to pour manpower into the DOC areas , it will have to actually ReDistrict and accept the political heat.
That is all that has been done for years, REDISTRICT without actually putting it on paper. Take from the districts and put into DOC zones in the fastest districts.
What will they do now?
Put your yellow slips in now. Take off Bud Biliken parade day and south side irish parade day. They cannot deny it!
Cha-Ching!
O.T., here I come!
This has to be the first suit the FOP has won in years.
Don't count you chickens just yet. There is always the appeal process. And lets not forget, Daily never has and never will follow Federal laws or regulations.
You can forget about getting overtime to man the beat cars. That car will be down or they will man it by making others work 99.
How about a class action suit to fund our pension.
Federal law and our contract means nothing to King Richie.
WAKE UP!!!
If any one from the TRIB or SUN TIMES reads this please help.We would like the Dist's manpower #'S and see just who is actually in the dist's or WHY THEY ARE NOT!
The taxpayers of each police dist should know just how many people are in uniform capable of catching bad guys or answering the radio to help them out.
What will suprise them is how many people actually have not layed hands on a bad guy in years IF AT ALL.
If each dist was featured in a Sunday Edition story as a pull out it would make for interesting reading and hold bosses feet to the fire.
Off Topic: Fox news reports that a new statistic out today that crimes against law enforcement officers and have been targeted is at its highest in 30 years! Where's our contract!?!?
off topic..... heard that the w/c in 024 on 3rd watch is going to allow a female p.o. to change her rdo's during a week so she can go to vegas and not burn her time later this month... if this is allowed can I file a grivence with the F.O.P.....and also can this be allowed...I along with other p.o.'s on the watch have had our time denied by thw w/c
why don't they dump the majority of officers from NAGIS....the majority are do-nothings that ride the coat tails of the few people with knowledge
how many have never purchased dope or have zero informants they are responsible for???
even the long term teams are doing small bullshit conspiracy cases with very little weight. they all wait for the feds to give them the big loads and then champion themselves in the news. when was the last big seizure...and the one before that. take away their take home cars they are given because they are politically connected and help us out in the districts.
the other side of this is that the city allows 99 units---it would definately be an officer safety issue--but they may get away with it because the suburbs and state police do it--i hope not boys and girls--i appreciate backup
The city wants to appeal this, but it will go nowhere. The 7th Court of appeals is the court that first ruled on this case. Milwaukee police lost there. The Cleveland police I believe appealed it also tho the 7th circuit and lost and went to the U.S. Supreme Court. So this case is now case law. The city wasted our tax dollars in court stalling the enviable like everything else they do.
Special Employment in the district for you! The city will not disband TRU, the extra gang teams. DOC, area mission teams, and the other 800 jobs they invented w/o hiring anyone to do them. If the arbitrator gives us the sell back of 200 hrs and/or the stipend for living in this corrupt over priced city watch for Daley to melt down and cry like a baby.
1977 revolver police.
The city will appeal in order to buy time to ELIMINATE the comp time system. When you are out of personal days V-days and BFDs you will have to be absent without pay if you want a day off. Must take money for any time earned. Current time on the books will be exhausted under the current system. This will turn out to be the worst thing that ever happened.
Good FOP? The only reason FOP sued and eventually one was because of another suit in Milwaukee that was won on the same principle. People found out about it and forced FOP to file a suit. FOP originally did not want any part of this, but they had no choice. Unit Reps and a few rebellious board members forced their hand. If it wasn't for them, this suit would never have been filed.
Thanks Ron Porterfield (Channel 7 News) for your heart warming special about Fred Hampton and his new statue in Maywood! I would like to see statues of the fine Chicago Officers who killed that Maggot piece of shit!! Imagine someone proposing a statue of David Duke?? bet that wouldn't go over too well the Black Community, but why not? They're both known Racists!
Hold your horses. The City can still appeal this decision, and it probably will. This can hold everything up until the appeapl is heard and determined- like a real long time.
I'm not getting too excited because this city has violated numerous court rulings before. But it is nice to file a grievance everytime I'm denied time due.
the other side of this is that the city allows 99 units---it would definately be an officer safety issue--but they may get away with it because the suburbs and state police do it--i hope not boys and girls--i appreciate backup
9/13/2007 03:07:00 PM
There is NO RULE against 99 units...
People don't see what the city will end up doing to aleviate this problem.
All comp time on the books now will be paid in cash. Everyone will them have a zero time balance and all overtime in the future will be paid in cash.
You have seen the last of comp time and the city will be able to man the beats as the please.
A retired po
Anonymous said...
why don't they dump the majority of officers from NAGIS....the majority are do-nothings that ride the coat tails of the few people with knowledge
how many have never purchased dope or have zero informants they are responsible for???
even the long term teams are doing small bullshit conspiracy cases with very little weight. they all wait for the feds to give them the big loads and then champion themselves in the news. when was the last big seizure...and the one before that. take away their take home cars they are given because they are politically connected and help us out in the districts.
9/13/2007 02:51:00 PM
How do you know? Do you work in NAGIS? And if you do you must just be the best officer the city has huh? Maybe we could clone 13,000 officers to be just like you!!
NAGIS has dog asses, and phone call people like every unit or district, but there is no need to lump everyone in together.
The city should just hire the officers they are budgeted for and we wouldn't have these issues!!
One area where there is NO manpower shortae is in the exempt ranks. If a PO is neded to fill a beat car, get a do-little-or-nothing-political-suckhole out there to fill the breach and work in a damn beat car.
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There are only about 1/2 of the exempt positions than there were in the late 80's/early 90's
Anyone remember the Booz-Allen report of the mid 90's? The City paid millions for that study and report and then failed to implement many of the recommendations.
And that was a sHIT report too.
IM IMPRESSED ALOT GUYS MUST HAVE HUNDREDS OF HOURS ON THE BOOKS.
JUST PUT IN FOR YOUR DAY AND RELAX. WORSE CASE GO ON THE MEDICAL.
SO MANY SISSYS SCARED TO LOSE A BEAT CAR. IF YOU NEED THE TIME USE THE BRAIN GOD GAVE YOU.
Could the FOP please make some effort to get something for duty disabled cops from the City. CTA passes, property tax releif, water bill releif, parking, jobs or some respect. Or get the city to support legislation for disabled po's in Springfield.
Residency is an issue that will not be forgotten or dropepd by the FOP. We are he only city in Illinois that cannot by state law bargain for residency. We need to change Illinois law, the FOP has been trying. Daley gets it killed.
I for one would move out in a heartbeat.
om
9/13/2007 07:26:00 AM
I would love to move out of the city and get more house for my dollar. But if they did this city would go just like Detroit. Every one of our CPD CFD city worker neighborhoods would go to shit. Districts like 005 (which is hardly holding on) would go and 022 next. Then we would ride the beat and laugh like your in the ghetto of 007 and 011. Just sayin......i to would like to leave but what would happen?? Could the city make it without us holding together the few good neighborhoods it has through residency??
Free Mike Mette!!!!!
***OFF TOPIC***
Honor our fallen officers. Come to the Candlelight Vigil next Tuesday, September 18 at 1930. Check the streaming video for details.
worst thing that happened!we won a battle but lost the war.what happens when we are forced to sell back our comp time?earn only usc for overtime.no more nest egg cash out for earned comp time at retirement.laugh now,cry later.
As this issue winds its way through the courts and cityhall goofs, put your slips in for Bud Biliken day, SouthSide Irish parade, 3 July, any weekend during Puerto Rican festival. What have you got to loose and you may make some money, when the city denies your requests, put in 6,7,11 months in advance.
What is this about coppers from 009 getting pinched for burglary, does anyone have more info on this... just another black eye for the department if it's true, I hope for everyone's sake, it's not.
why don't they dump the majority of officers from NAGIS....the majority are do-nothings that ride the coat tails of the few people with knowledge
how many have never purchased dope or have zero informants they are responsible for???
even the long term teams are doing small bullshit conspiracy cases with very little weight. they all wait for the feds to give them the big loads and then champion themselves in the news. when was the last big seizure...and the one before that. take away their take home cars they are given because they are politically connected and help us out in the districts.
Sounds like sour grapes from someone who didn't get into NAGIS.
The city will appeal in order to buy time to ELIMINATE the comp time system. When you are out of personal days V-days and BFDs you will have to be absent without pay if you want a day off. Must take money for any time earned. Current time on the books will be exhausted under the current system. This will turn out to be the worst thing that ever happened
Won't happen, the city could never afford to pay if everyone took money.
Management has to be able to limit time off, it's a safety issue for your fellow officers besides. It will be appealed, bank on it. The city will NEVER pay OT to man cars on a permanent basis. Just look at the TARA program, summer only, then they yank it to save money.
If they appeal it and lose, we should get 8 extra hours in the books for every day it was denied. Keep track of all the days you get denied from here on out. We definitely should get to cash in the 200 hours per year of comp time for our next contract.
You earned it and should be able to use at as you wish. Just like being able to pay taxes where you wish. Just like we should be able to live wherever we wish.
Good FOP for now. Lets see how much they give up on the contract for this win! My experience working for this department for 15 years. One step forward three steps back.
Capt White:
I will not honor the agreement because all i can get are PPOs
I agree with the earlier poster.
Say buh-by to comp time.
It will just be holidays that will earn you time. Everything else, cash, if that.
Short-biggie does not like to be told what to do. He thinks any employee that sues the city is an ingrate. He would say something like this. You should be grateful you have a job. If you don't like things the way they are, quit! I didn't tell you to be a police officer. Being able to take off whenever you want is silly, just silly.
I dont care wut the judge sez. He aint my boss. Hibbity jibbity duh.
I would love to see if the Bears make it to the Superbowl again! or the Cubs make it to the World Series! Who the hell is going to be working then? NOT ME!!!!
For the person who keeps bring up residency. You need to understand what collective bargaining is. For starts, the state statute states any town/city over a million population will require residency. So if it is a state law, it is illegal to bring the issue up in collective bargaining meetings. So you need to get the law appealed and taken off the books before you can bring the issue up for a contract negotiation.
NAGIS is a scam. Everyone knows an officer that works there and the truth is they work 4-5 hr days, sey dog, use their take home vehicle with free gas to do personal shopping and cart their families around under the assumption they might get called out for the load of the century...ya right...what informant in their right mind would work for the cpd over the feds...cpd pays shit.....cpd gets all the hand me downs from other agencies!!!! there is no justification to give all the nagis members a free car and free gas for personal business with our budget crisis. if anyone responds this is sour grapes, they obviously work and nagis, know this is true and don't want others to know. really..even with the teams doing long term invests.......the amount amount of weight in a major US city is an embarassment...how could you argue with this?? Unless you work in NAGIS????
just a thought... but what would stop the city from giving comp time and just giving $$$ instead. make getting o.t next to impossible to get and just pay you for any overtime. personal days and bfd days are by senority and part of the contract benefits, can they be restricted to manpower needs?????
off topic..... heard that the w/c in 024 on 3rd watch is going to allow a female p.o. to change her rdo's during a week so she can go to vegas and not burn her time later this month... if this is allowed can I file a grivence with the F.O.P.....and also can this be allowed...I along with other p.o.'s on the watch have had our time denied by thw w/c
Shut the fuck up marko! you'll be in jail soon, anyhow
commander shmittz of 8 is a douchbag. we wont do home invasions for you leo! stop asking!!!
thats awesome but adolpho garcia has no time to use! he burned it all up!
Say buh-by to comp time.
It will just be holidays that will earn you time. Everything else, cash, if that.
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THE FOP WOULD HAVE TO TAKE THAT OUT OF OUR CONTRACT...AND THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN...I MAY START LOCKING PEOPLE UP AGAIN! "WHERE IS THAT DOMESTIC BATTERY AT SQUAD? (LET SEE ITS 2355HRS) "SEEING THAT WE'RE IN OUR REGULAR BACK-LOG SQUAD,THROW IT IN OUR BOX, I NEED SOME COMP-TIME."
TWO DAY WORK WEEKS,TWO DAY WORK WEEKS!
"For the person who keeps bring up residency. You need to understand what collective bargaining is. For starts, the state statute states any town/city over a million population will require residency. So if it is a state law, it is illegal to bring the issue up in collective bargaining meetings. So you need to get the law appealed and taken off the books before you can bring the issue up for a contract negotiation"
You sir are absolutely right. Kinda funny how the little irish prick violates state and federal law when it suits him. Took him gobs of time to adhere to the sworn affidavit law because....um...fuck the police. Suddenly it became a collective bargaining issue....and it took all most a year before it went into effect. The FOP really needs to think about hiring SHAKMAN for their lead counsel, at least he has made, fucking over the little irish prick, a crusade!
If the residency law is lifed the City and all the Police/Fire neighborhoods would not fall into darkness. A small percentage would move out and liberal dummies will always snatch up houses regardless of the price-look at the crazy prices for homes and condos in 012 !
Detroit turned into a ghost town , not because of police moving out, but because of the auto manufacturing shutting down overnight. 1,000 cops moving out or 50,000 blue collar laborers moving out ??!! What do you think did it ?
SCC - this needs to be its own thread!
Supreme Bitch aldercreature Dixon is using her recently-obtained aldermaniac powers to exert improper authority over rank and file district personnel in 010 (and I'm sure soon same in 011)
She personally called GED Starks woofing about a BLACK 20-year veteran copper (DW) who is a bonafide worker, for not kissing her ass when she snapped her fingers. She DEMANDED that he be removed from the beat he's worked for years and has established a great rep and high levels of cooperation and appreciation from the good citizens of his beat.
Hibbitty dibbitty Dana (seeing the negative connotations of messing with hard-working cops might have) called High-Yella Charlie W who immediately called DC Cuello in 010 and ordered her to launch DW to the hispanic side of the district. She replaced him with possibly one of the most useless empty uniforms on the job.
CAPS is supposedly all about building partnerships, establishing rapport with the community and reducing crime. Here is a hard working ex-tac veteran who chooses to step up to do police work, only to be kicked in the teeth by his OWN sworn members at the request of some PMS-ing "it's MY time to be a shot caller" asshole.
She did not consult with the Beat Facilitators, DAC committee members or anyone who lives on the beat (not the beat Dixon lives on BTW) and exerted possibly illegal influence over his failure to bow and scrape in her royal presence.
Remember, there has been NO CR#, no allegations of wrongdoing, no actual discipline, just harassment and mistreatment. Step-N-Fetchit Charlie buckled like a house of cards and demanded that Cuello just can him and, I'm sorry to say, she went along with the whole thing. Her credibility has been severly damaged by this.
Telling Williams to go fuck himself would have meant her going back to Lt. rank and pay but would have been worth millions in respect and admiration from her troops.
Remember the old cop movies where some guy was getting pinched and yelled "I'll have your badge for this!"? You KNEW it wasn't gonna happen cuz what kind of police department would you have if cops could be so easily harassed or demoted/fired? So now this Mary Mitchell wanabe picks up the phone and gets her hatchetmen to shit all over a working cop for ruffling her feathers. She's not even in office a year and already throws her "authority" around like she was King Richard J. himself.
Taking negative job action for purely political reasons is ILLEGAL, right??? Fitz, are you listening? How about the citizens of 1014? Why are they deprived of the stellsr service of this officer because of someone who doesn't even live on that beat, alderman or not?
Morale is at an all-time low from shit like this. I hope he files some kind of lawsuit or grievance or complaint. The 2 pipms who catered to this bimbo's wishes and threw Danny under the bus (oh, yeah.....they're BOTH still candidates for the SUPT spot) should be ashamed and immediately removed from their exempt positions.
Mike Mette was arrested for throwing a punch to defend himself. Danny doesn't get the ability to even throw a punch, having his career torpedoed by higher-ups to kiss the ass of a freshman alderidiot.
PLEASE CONSIDER MAKING THIS IT'S OWN THREAD. THIS CONDUCT IS ILLEGAL AND UNFAIR AND HAS TO STOP!
Anonymous said...
commander shmittz of 8 is a douchbag. we wont do home invasions for you leo! stop asking!!!
9/14/2007 12:02:00 AM
Agreed He also wants 2 heads per tact man per night he has lost his mind! maybe all the years of steroid induced body building is affecting his brain! "The boy done lost it"!
NAGIS is a scam. Everyone knows an officer that works there and the truth is they work 4-5 hr days, sey dog, use their take home vehicle with free gas to do personal shopping and cart their families around under the assumption they might get called out for the load of the century...ya right...what informant in their right mind would work for the cpd over the feds...cpd pays shit.....cpd gets all the hand me downs from other agencies!!!! there is no justification to give all the nagis members a free car and free gas for personal business with our budget crisis. if anyone responds this is sour grapes, they obviously work and nagis, know this is true and don't want others to know. really..even with the teams doing long term invests.......the amount amount of weight in a major US city is an embarassment...how could you argue with this?? Unless you work in NAGIS????
WRONG! I don't work in NAGIS but have friends that do, they don't work 4 hr days, in fact it's usually 8, the car is the best perk, but the department even wants to know where it's parked, and they do check, so yes, it does sound like sour grapes..
no more comp time all ot will be cash and po's will have a 5 day work week days off will be picked by seniority
hair gel police will be day off mon tue /tue wed etc us old timers won't need time due we'll be off sat sun thanks guys i might stay on a few more years hahaha
don't worry when you need a day off without pay we'll work for ot the city won this battle
"off topic..... heard that the w/c in 024 on 3rd watch is going to allow a female p.o. to change her rdo's during a week so she can go to vegas and not burn her time later this month... if this is allowed can I file a grivence with the F.O.P.....and also can this be allowed...I along with other p.o.'s on the watch have had our time denied by thw w/c "
---couldn't possibly be B.F. ????
Don't count you chickens just yet. There is always the appeal process. And lets not forget, Daily never has and never will follow Federal laws or regulations.
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They will not win an appeal. And if he doesn't follow federal laws, it's a grievance and contempt of court.
You can forget about getting overtime to man the beat cars. That car will be down or they will man it by making others work 99.
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They can only down so many cars. They are required to keep so many cars going. If again they start with the working 99 stuff, again, call the union. Stop sitting back and taking the shit they are dishing out! Step up and try to do something about it.
The city will appeal in order to buy time to ELIMINATE the comp time system. When you are out of personal days V-days and BFDs you will have to be absent without pay if you want a day off. Must take money for any time earned. Current time on the books will be exhausted under the current system. This will turn out to be the worst thing that ever happened.
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Never going to happen. The city would be broke if they forced everyone to take $ for OT.
“undue disruption” of service
Define this for me please.
Just look at the TARA program, summer only, then they yank it
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Tara is not funded by the City.
Detroit turned into a ghost town , not because of police moving out, but because of the auto manufacturing shutting down overnight. 1,000 cops moving out or 50,000 blue collar laborers moving out ??!! What do you think did it ?
You think if residency was lifted for all city workers only 1,000 would move out?? How many city workers would sell city to the rich yuppie for a profit and larger house 10-20 minutes away?? How many are going to stay and watch their co-workers leave and stay so section 8, yuppie, or CHA "Change" can move next door?? So the ? is who many total city employees are there and how many would stay if given the option? I don't know if it was 50,000 in Detroit just like i dont know the thousand number for total city employees. But i do think its a gamble little richie doesn't want to take. Which makes me say i don't like residency but i can understand the risk. If im wrong throw me a point with a stat or two and show me the light out of the city.
The city will appeal in order to buy time to ELIMINATE the comp time system. When you are out of personal days V-days and BFDs you will have to be absent without pay if you want a day off. Must take money for any time earned. Current time on the books will be exhausted under the current system. This will turn out to be the worst thing that ever happened.
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No way, this city loves giving us time instead of money. that's why a lot of you have to learn to take the money and run.
let the girl go to vegas asshole. you must have about an hour on this job. mind our own business. go ahead file a grievence, you'll be known as a real dickhead the rest of your career beefing about something as stupid as that idiot.
Hey Capt Alexander in 022. You can shove your line in the time due book up your ass!!!
lets all move to the burbs like lemont,homer township,mokena, and have great schools and pay $10,000 or more in taxes, and $200.00 a month in water bills, and don't forget 100# every 2 weeks for water softener as they have city well water, buy lots of bottled water ( at least they have not yet taxed it like the city wants 25 Cents a bottle), Pay more for fuel to drive more. Oh and pay $50.00 a month to pick up garbage where they will not pick it all up anyway! SORRY NOT FOR ME!
Anonymous said...
SCC - this needs to be its own thread!
Supreme Bitch aldercreature Dixon is using her recently-obtained aldermaniac powers to exert improper authority over rank and file district personnel in 010 (and I'm sure soon same in 011)
She personally called GED Starks woofing about a BLACK 20-year veteran copper (DW) who is a
9/14/2007 07:41:00 AM
AMEN Brother!!!!
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