Another Company Suckhole
Under the post ticket book inspection:
- time due is not a right, its a privilege
Uh, actually, there's a ruling in effect that says time die cannot be denied in an arbitrary manner. It's ours to do with as we please. We earned it in lieu of being paid overtime, therefore it's ours to "spend" as we see fit. Of course, the City is fighting the ruling in court, but they'll lose eventually and taxpayers will be stuck with another bill that could have been avoided if the City just abided by the original ruling.
We'll repeat this because it seems timely in the face of GPS and bosses demanding quotas in violation of policy:
This is your new best friend. Find one. Find more than one. Document occurrences, conversations, interactions with supervisors, states attorneys and citizens. It'll refresh your memory, it'll back you better than most bosses, it'll justify the cost within days, it's tax deductible.
It might even save your ass.
We'll repeat this because it seems timely in the face of GPS and bosses demanding quotas in violation of policy:
This is your new best friend. Find one. Find more than one. Document occurrences, conversations, interactions with supervisors, states attorneys and citizens. It'll refresh your memory, it'll back you better than most bosses, it'll justify the cost within days, it's tax deductible.
It might even save your ass.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 1:04 AM
104 Comments:
SCC,
You have no idea how correct you are about having the notebook/diary. It is invaluable in civil actions, document,document,document and document.
please everyone watch this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1868806615031074946
hey J-fed what are you going to do about this. how about call your fed friends
I wish SCC put put these videos up
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Holy I got mine half fill out already Batman!!!
Can't wait to start burning some of those cocksuckers!!!
Who is this ET *19934 from 019?
Why is he afraid to take a job in the 'jets??
Are there no family members to write movers to living in the projects?
Company suck is Gramham in 023. He works a foot post, but is negotiating the work schedule. Graham come back on the watch with us.
Company suckhole? There are many. Lets use this thread to name our favorite.
I just read the FACTS 501 regarding FTOs. What does it mean? Is it a signal the City and the FOP are destined to go to arbitration? Let's get it over.
Holy 13,500 Batman!!!
Long I pondered my Patrol Specialist’s cryptic talk about police work and management. Time has proven him wise. For from DNA-free officer to DNA-free officer, the word was spread that the bold Chicago Police Officers, all 13,500, on their tours of duty from home, risking their lives; not just for the Department, but for all Chicagoans and the promise this country holds. Now, here on this ragged patch of earth called Shitcago, let da mayor’s hordes face obliteration!
Just there the politicians huddle, sheer terror gripping tight their hearts with icy fingers -- knowing full well what merciless horrors they will suffered at the sworn hands of 13,500. Yet they stare now across the plain at us about to pounce.
The political hacks outnumber us a paltry 3 to 1, good odds for any sworn officer. This day we rescue a city from corruption and tyranny and usher in a future brighter than anything we can imagine.
Give thanks, men and women, to the brave 13,500.
TO VICTORY!!!
I know how you feel buddy. Just deny it like me. Say it was somebody else! It works. And don't drink and blog. You'll regret it in the a.m.
Det. Tommy Downs A/2 DD
Chalkie rocks the southside at least 4 times on Friday evening. Four democrats.
Yes, the little ring notebook. Very useful.
It is also subject to subpoena and therefore would be open to scrutiny in court and available to the defense through discovery. Be careful what you write in it and make sure any reports and testimony jibe with your notes.
Other departments require their officers to keep daily notebooks and log their activities thoroughly. The CPD officers would likely moan and complain that it is an intrusion into their personal lives and could cut in to their newspaper or coffee time.
Timothy McVeigh was convicted in large part because of detailed notes taken by the arresting officer who made that original traffic stop. The officer's notes justified the stop and detailed McVeigh's actions and statements during the stop and later in the station.
Most CPD officers would likely file grievances and complain loudly if the department dared force them to keep such detailed notes of their actions and detailed documentation of their arrests.
However in other police circles it would be considered good police work.
Excellent, SCC!
Suffice to say, SCC's advice is critical to successful litigation v. the City.
Document their every word or action of possible harassment and retaliation. If you can't get an original, make a photocopy.
Who? What? When? Where? How? Witnesses?
Read up on Connick, Pickering, Mt. Healthy, Garcetti and other federal court decisions affecting your First Amendment right to speak out on matters of public concern.
Trust me. THE ONLY THING THAT THESE OOCKSUCKERS UNDERSTAND IS LITIGATION!
I'm getting a digital recorder and will record every conversation I have with all bosses!
We NEED to do this because a lot of bosses especially at HQ. talk out of both sides of their mouths and have NO integrity nor backbone in what they tell you!
It is the old saying: "Do as I say and don't do as I do"!
If it is okay for the Feds and "joe shithead" to record, then it is okay for us lowly Police Officers to record the conversation to protect ourselves!
Thanks to SCC I have my book and also my phone has record capabilities come on boss lets play "password" say the word and on goes the "record" and the note taking has already begun! Ready,set, lets play! Are you ready to play with the master?
when asking an asa about felony charges against someone hitting a pregnant woman, they replied " is the offender a p.o., if not no"
Who is the idiot in 019 writing officers and their families?
Any truth to the rumor that 016 Midnights DUI King received a Dui in the suburbs???
Keep notes on comments by D/C, W/C, Lt's and Sgts. They do come in handy.
Also, don't leave the notes in your locker.
Also, anytime you are given an order while conducting your investigation document it in the case report, if one is completed. You can also put a verbal order given on the radio.
eg, squad FYI, I was ordered to do X by beat ABC.
I learned the hard way. However, I then put all orders in my reports. One being an arrest I was ordered to make. I put it in the arrest and case reports. Low and behold the law suit came down. At the first motion hearing my partner and I were dismissed from the law suit.
It was very sweet, the look on the ordering boss was priceless.
Speaking of Time Due, I suggest that anyone who keeps a log of their time..they should go a speak to the timekeeper to compare. There is a rash of bad accounting and coppers are being ripped off due to stupidity.
Time due is overtime earned. Not company time but time earned by the officer. Yet white shirts use it to control their officers. Maybe every officer should ask for cash instead? We won a court case so deny and abuse and FOP will go back to court.
Time Due is yours! A few of us just burned a few days worth extending our furloughs to check out the "Minuteman Project" in Arizona. Great time/worthy cause! Lots of fellow coppers from Az. involved. Treated us great! Participated in ongoing project called "Allied Recon". We assisted interception of 15 illegals at night. Border Patrol was right on it after we called them in. The guys out there would love to see large groups of CPD helping them. Check out the website!
"I'm getting a digital recorder and will record every conversation I have with all bosses!"
Illinois's wiretapping law is a "two-party consent" law. Illinois makes it a crime to use an "eavesdropping device" to overhear or record a phone call or conversation without the consent of all parties to the conversation. The law defines an "eavesdropping device" as "any device capable of being used to hear or record oral conversation or intercept, retain, or transcribe electronic communication whether such conversation or electronic communication is conducted in person, by telephone, or by any other means." 720 Ill. Comp. Stat. 5/14-1, -2. If you are operating in Illinois, you should always get the consent of all parties before recording an in-person conversation or telephone call. In addition to subjecting you to criminal prosecution, violating the Illinois wiretapping statute can expose you to a civil lawsuit for damages by an injured party.
http://www.citmedialaw.org/legal-guide/illinois/illinois-recording-law
Trust me. THE ONLY THING THAT THESE OOCKSUCKERS UNDERSTAND IS LITIGATION!
9/06/2008 07:04:00 AM
Hell yeah! They can all suck on my OOCK!
Who has the fucking time to write notes?
Job to job and code to code with paper and arrests in between. Man, fuck a notebook.
I'm getting a digital recorder and will record every conversation I have with all bosses!
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If it is okay for the Feds and "joe shithead" to record, then it is okay for us lowly Police Officers to record the conversation to protect ourselves!
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Obviously, you are free do to as you please. Just remember that the Illinois statue on eavesdropping is pretty straight forward.
Any verbal conversation that you record, assuming that you won't ask permission before you record, is illegally obtained and therefore unusable. Remember, there is a difference between video and audio. So not only would you NOT be protecting yourself, you may just find yourself in jail.
Amen! I have told my daughter who is now in private industry to do the same thing. Three months on the job and she had some little dweeb whine about her to HR. Her notes helped save her butt.
Former U.K. Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher earned the nickname of "the Iron Maiden".
If my instincts are correct, just watch Vice President Sarah Palin.
When you bring out the notebook you will be amazed how quickly a big mouth boss shuts up.
Retired in 2003 (Thank God)
Anonymous said...
please everyone watch this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1868806615031074946
hey J-fed what are you going to do about this. how about call your fed friends
I wish SCC put put these videos up
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9/06/2008 01:37:00 AM
Add that video to the olympics bid videos
"I'm getting a digital recorder and will record every conversation I have with all bosses!"
Hey Einstein, might want to look into the IL eavesdropping laws first. Ask Det. Rollo all about it. He found out the hard way it's ILLEGAL. Then again IAD was so incompetent that nothing happened to him, so in retrospect, may as well walk around with a mic on you.
know how you feel buddy. Just deny it like me. Say it was somebody else! It works. And don't drink and blog. You'll regret it in the a.m.
Det. Tommy Downs A/2 DD
9/06/2008 03:25:00 AM
tommy the commie
when asking an asa about felony charges against someone hitting a pregnant woman, they replied " is the offender a p.o., if not no"
9/06/2008 07:59:00 AM
and the name of the asa that stated that?
07:00 am. hay super cop boss. im only writting what i need to . just like the supervisors do. getting worried bitch, a real copper like you should be able to go out and make up for a dog ass like me.
Time due is a 'priveledge'? Are you F-ing serious? Its time you worked, above and beyond your normal tour and you should be able to use it as you wish.
The courts agree too.
when asking an asa about felony charges against someone hitting a pregnant woman, they replied " is the offender a p.o., if not no"
9/06/2008 07:59:00 AM
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Jagoffs. Just tell them yes and when it comes up in court say you were mistaken and thought they were asking if YOU were a PO. One's occupation is no where in the criminal code as an "aggravating factor".
If this post did in fact happen, please post the ASA's name that denied based on the offender not being a PO, so we can look out for this moron.
How about a topic on the fire inspectors who took BRIBES and were only fired. Cop takes a BRIBE and there are state and federal charges. What a joke! Same for everyone I say!
I don't disagree with keeping a journal but be aware that if it becomes public, it can be called to evidence in court.
To Missy and now I guess Amber. (understanding full well it's a co-worker exposing their antics - or at least REALLY hoping it is) As a female officer it is the likes of you that makes it difficult for the rest of us. Any female officer not wishing to put on kneepads to get through her career has to work twice as hard to garner 1/2 the respect that males receive.
Please, continue to expose these pathetic excuses. Beyond the humor it puts an unwanted spotlight on them. Every district has at least 1 (in fact, not all are females) - let's show their asses here too.
Anonymous said...
please everyone watch this
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1868806615031074946
hey J-fed what are you going to do about this. how about call your fed friends
I wish SCC put put these videos up
copy and paste
9/06/2008 01:37:00 AM
Just watched it, it's a very good peek for about a half hour video. I'm sure there is a whole lot more to this. We can only wish...but know the feds won't touch this until that little puke is out of office.
Buy a hard bound notebook with printed, numbered pages (they do make small ones) Like a small ledger.
That way you can't be accused of ripping out a page if it is ever used as evidence.
Who would be a worse leader to have JFED or TOM Dart?
By definition, all exempts are part-time or full-time suckholes.
SCC / Off Topic:
015th DISTRICT J-FED ROLL CALL
Well, Friday 5 September was supposed to be a big day in “Fort Forgotten – 015”. J-Fed was supposed to show up with his big ego and his big bodyguards for a street roll call at 100 N. Pine at 1800hrs.
To say the least, the Commander; “Old Puddin’ Pop” pulled out all the stops and had the Watch Commander down as many cars as possible for the big production. They even had cars from other districts and units come in for the show. Old Puddin’ Pop put on his best aftershave; “Purple Pimp Pride” I believe it’s called.
After 45 minutes of waiting around, and 100+ pending jobs backlogged in 015, a call was made by someone to the 911/OEMC to “get rid” of as many jobs as possible (ie; those with no complainants, anything lower than a “higher priority’ category, etc.
IN THE END, old J-Fraud never showed up or called and WASTED everyone’s time with another USELESS bullshit rollcall.
Do us a favor J-Fraud – Put out a new order stating these “outdoor roll calls’ are no longer to be utilized as they are a fucking waste of time and taxpayers money. While bosses are attempting to suck up to you, 3 more “future doctor / honor roll students” could get killed because there is no police manpower out there.
Company suckhole? There are many. Lets use this thread to name our favorite.
9/06/2008 02:20:00 AM
OK, me first. The entire second watch in 009 not there on a bid including the suckhole sgt v. and the biggest suckhole company man Lt k. And don't forget A.M., what the hell do you know about crime statistics, you haven't seen the streets since you finished your cycles.
GET! IN! YOUR! CRUISER!
WHERE THE FUK IS FOP! SOME BULLSHIT SO CALLED UNION WE HAVE HERE> THEY WOULDNT TAKE THIS ON THE NYPD OR BOSTON PD> WHY DO WE TAKE THIS SHIT HERE> FUK THE BRASS- DO EVEN LESS> IN NYC THEY WOULD HAVE A PROTEST RALLY> OUR FOP JUST ENJOYS ITS CUSHY BULLSHIT JOBS>FOP SHOULD FILE A LAWSUIT AS BREACH OF CONTRACT RULES
OFF TOPIC. True story. I have a shitbox car i use for running errands and such and simply forgot to renew my license palte sticker. Expired Aug 31. Dont worry the car i take to work is LEGIT. So a meter maid goes down the block and I see her and she starts writing me a ticket. Talk to her, tell her im sorry i didnt even realize I had expired and she writes me anyway. no problem, i was wrong so i wil pay the 50 dollar fine, I hate to be a bitch like the average citizen that cant admit they are wrong so i deal with it. I take the ticket and figure i will get my sticker and no problem. Then this meter maid proceeds to order a TOW on my vehicle and write 7 day tow on my window. TOW? for expired sticker? My car isnt abandoned, i simply had expired sticker. I was outraged! You are going to write on my car as i stand next to you? WTF? If the city is going to play these games, I swear I will find ways to be paid without being at work. I will get my money back and FUCK EVERY city POLITICIAN!!!!
OFF TOPIC
**Today's way to waste time at work**
You will need:
1. A toughbook PDT.
2. A bored partner.
Instructions:
1. Click "Menu".
2. Click on the red "Calibrate Screen" button.
3. Click on the "touchscreen" tab.
4. Click Test.
What do you have now?
A white screen tablet in which you are limited only by your imagination!
Draw!
Write!
Play tic-tac-toe!
Play hangman!
Etc!
Got that crackhead battery report?
Why not try your hand as a police sketch artist? Sure it will look like a 5 year old did it, but that's 1/2 the fun!
Enjoy and stay safe!
Just remember supervisors can document, document, document also. So now where does that leave you do nothings that think you should be paid just to show up at work. Who the hell do you all think you are. You couldn't work in private industry.you would be fired the first day.
time due or die! remember the alamo!
Remember, ask your union watch rep to sit in on any of this issues. That's why they are there.
Hey Einstein, might want to look into the IL eavesdropping laws first.
**Just try the old trick... this conversation may be recorded. I bet you that a boss would shut the hell up.
To 9/06/2008 11:04:00 AM
Did you notice how Sun-Times (saw it at the Desk) buried that storied----if it was us doing something similar it would have been front page for days.
"Just remember supervisors can document, document, document also. So now where does that leave you do nothings that think you should be paid just to show up at work. Who the hell do you all think you are. You couldn't work in private industry.you would be fired the first day.
9/06/2008 03:14:00 PM"
Always the same refrain. referencing the private sector, this from a person obviously on the public pad, albeit unlikely the CPD.
Crawl back under you chinaman's ass.
If use of time due is a privledge per H.Q. then how about letting me sell mine like the Sgts. and other Sups. do. Whats good for them is good for me. Why can they sell back time accumulated but I can't? I need it to pay my outrageous City related taxes and living costs. Why wasn't this put into our Contract by F.L.O.P. at least as a bargaining chip? Why can FLOP only remember stuff potentially helpful to the CPD officers at contract negotiation time when it's convenient for them?
"Then this meter maid proceeds to order a TOW on my vehicle and write 7 day tow on my window.
9/06/2008 02:27:00 PM"
So, after witnessing a fraud being committed by a city government employee, why is it, again, that you did not make the arrest?
" Every district has at least 1 (in fact, not all are females) - let's show their asses here too.
9/06/2008 11:06:00 AM"
(cue Keesing Bandit)
To Missy and now I guess Amber. (understanding full well it's a co-worker exposing their antics - or at least REALLY hoping it is) As a female officer it is the likes of you that makes it difficult for the rest of us. Any female officer not wishing to put on kneepads to get through her career has to work twice as hard to garner 1/2 the respect that males receive.
Please, continue to expose these pathetic excuses. Beyond the humor it puts an unwanted spotlight on them. Every district has at least 1 (in fact, not all are females) - let's show their asses here too.
9/06/2008 11:06:00 AM
Here's a thought. How about strapping on a set and telling them to their faces? Just because someone posts some BS on this blog doesn't mean it's true. If it is true and you want to "expose their antics", expose your name as well as theirs.
Although this site offers great insights at times, it also provides a forum for cowards to post bullshit about someone they have personal issues with. I mean honestly, how fuc**d up are the individuals who continue to post about Scott or Carroll. I find it disturbing that they probably carry a gun. I said "probably", because I can neither prove, nor disprove that they are police officers.
If you post your opinions about what is wrong with this job, I understand the need for anonymous posting. But, if you want to personlly attack someone -sign your name.
"Any verbal conversation that you record, assuming that you won't ask permission before you record, is illegally obtained and therefore unusable. Remember, there is a difference between video and audio. So not only would you NOT be protecting yourself, you may just find yourself in jail.
9/06/2008 09:52:00 AM"
Are you saying that recording video, with audio, is legal, even if known only to the person doing the recording?
"There is a rash of bad accounting and coppers are being ripped off due to stupidity.
9/06/2008 08:58:00 AM"
Only stupidity?
Maybe not so much stupid as dishonest.
"I'm getting a digital recorder and will record every conversation I have with all bosses!
"
Al Jaglowski had one, told maria maher everything said about her, and recorded all instructors. If you talk to him look at his left breast pocket, its clip there all the time.
BTW how do you claim a medical disability for heart condition yet contiue to suba dive?
Bueller, Bueller?
"Trust me. THE ONLY THING THAT THESE OOCKSUCKERS UNDERSTAND IS LITIGATION!"
Hey Northside, what's an "oocksucker?"
Dear Diary,
I think I'm in LUV with my co-worker, Missy. I know she's married but she's just sooo hot! I don't know if it's her cute heiny or all that activity she checks off with.
Just remember supervisors can document, document, document also. So now where does that leave you do nothings that think you should be paid just to show up at work. Who the hell do you all think you are. You couldn't work in private industry.you would be fired the first day.
A little angry! Try talking to another white shirt. good luck
Where's the " FOP "
FAX 501
Give me a break !!!
The " fop " is and always wanted to go to arbitration on all contracts !!!!!!!!!
Are we all that stupid !!! If the " fop " screws around with the city for x- amount of days then throw there hands up in the air they can say were takin it to arbitration !!!!!!!
We don't even get to know whats on the table till its over !!!!!!!
Wake up people the " FOP " is about tooooo fuck us over !!!!!!!!!
First off i'm no white shirt and second I truely belive that the " FOP " should be voted out !!!!!!
Ask any unit REP " whats going on with the contract " answer " i don't know "
Ask any member of the negotiation's commitee other then ( DONAHUE -FALLON ) whats going on with the contract answer " i don't know donahue don't want us involved now " !!!!!!!
And if you do ask DONAHUE he'll say " I CAN'T TALK ABOUT CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS " thats it, no answer at all just a big FUCK YOU !!!
Wake the fuck up people the CITY is fucking us, but FOP is getting ready to skull fuck us !!!!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
How about a topic on the fire inspectors who took BRIBES and were only fired. Cop takes a BRIBE and there are state and federal charges. What a joke! Same for everyone I say!
9/06/2008 11:04:00 AM
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They didn't take bribes to overlook something. And they will get their jobs back. They were told buy their boss that they would be working on the weekend and that the test company would pay them for the work they did. They were not being pay by the city while doing the work
The notebook in your pocket is nothing new. When I came on in '78, it's was part of your uniform, and it was used.
To those on this post suggesting that they will/should record conversations with the bosses at 35th street: it's illegal to eavesdrop without their consent or a court order. Don't do it or they will fuck you by charging you and you will be fired.
"I'm getting a digital recorder and will record every conversation I have with all bosses!"
Ever read the illinois wire tap law?
Have fun in jail!
anonymous said...
I'm getting a digital recorder and will record every conversation I have with all bosses!
We NEED to do this because a lot of bosses especially at HQ. talk out of both sides of their mouths and have NO integrity nor backbone in what they tell you!
It is the old saying: "Do as I say and don't do as I do"!
If it is okay for the Feds and "joe shithead" to record, then it is okay for us lowly Police Officers to record the conversation to protect ourselves!
9/06/2008 07:22:00 AM
It is ok to record without the knowledge of those being recorded only with a court order. Otherwise you are violating the law recording all conversations and they can't be used for anything other than to get you sued or prosecuted.
anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC. True story. I have a shitbox car i use for running errands and such and simply forgot to renew my license palte sticker. Expired Aug 31. Dont worry the car i take to work is LEGIT. So a meter maid goes down the block and I see her and she starts writing me a ticket. Talk to her, tell her im sorry i didnt even realize I had expired and she writes me anyway. no problem, i was wrong so i wil pay the 50 dollar fine, I hate to be a bitch like the average citizen that cant admit they are wrong so i deal with it. I take the ticket and figure i will get my sticker and no problem. Then this meter maid proceeds to order a TOW on my vehicle and write 7 day tow on my window. TOW? for expired sticker? My car isnt abandoned, i simply had expired sticker. I was outraged! You are going to write on my car as i stand next to you? WTF? If the city is going to play these games, I swear I will find ways to be paid without being at work. I will get my money back and FUCK EVERY city POLITICIAN!!!!
9/06/2008 02:27:00 PM
Look for outlying Department of Revenue facilities and then bring your tickets books and write away.
015th DISTRICT J-FED ROLL CALL
. . After 45 minutes of waiting around, and 100+ pending jobs backlogged in 015, a call was made by someone to the 911/OEMC to “get rid” of as many jobs as possible . . .
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True.. some manager down at OEMC called someone in the media about it . . . talk about being FUCKED UP.
This political-ass city is a fucking joke. Sickening.
"Any verbal conversation that you record, assuming that you won't ask permission before you record, is illegally obtained and therefore unusable. Remember, there is a difference between video and audio. So not only would you NOT be protecting yourself, you may just find yourself in jail.
9/06/2008 09:52:00 AM"
Are you saying that recording video, with audio, is legal, even if known only to the person doing the recording?
9/06/2008 06:28:00 PM
No, the difference is the video portion is usable, the audio recorded with it is illegal.
Wow! Just looked at sundays time and tribune! The times has the idiot callahan on the cover plus again more stories about "bad police" The trib story about how daley is selling midway wants 3 billion but will get 1/2 that! Great job daley your so smart asshole! Where is hiding all the money for the bullshit olympics? What a jagoff!
If you post your opinions about what is wrong with this job, I understand the need for anonymous posting. But, if you want to personally attack someone -sign your name.
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Though I agree with your sentiment 100%, there is no validation used on this website. Signing your name is meaningless, as there is no way to be even 1% certain that the name used is actually that of the person making the post.
Jody P. Weis
Superintendent of Police
Any verbal conversation that you record, assuming that you won't ask permission before you record, is illegally obtained and therefore unusable. Remember, there is a difference between video and audio. So not only would you NOT be protecting yourself, you may just find yourself in jail.
9/06/2008 09:52:00 AM
Are you saying that recording video, with audio, is legal, even if known only to the person doing the recording?
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NO I am not saying that at all. However, within the context of my original post I can easily see how you would jump to that conclusion. It was a poorly expressed thought on my part and I apologize for any confusion it may have caused.
The recording of any conversation without a valid court order or the knowing consent of the participants is illegal whether through an audio only recording device or video/audio recording device.
What I was alluding to, was that there is a different standard entirely for the recording of video only.
Anonymous said...
Just remember supervisors can document, document, document also. So now where does that leave you do nothings that think you should be paid just to show up at work. Who the hell do you all think you are. You couldn't work in private industry.you would be fired the first day.
9/06/2008 03:14:00 PM
Hey, Sergeant Rambo! How ya doin'? Still armchair supervising the blog, huh? How's your Toprol supply holding out?
Anything you can document on a patrolman can't possibly compare to your own special brand of lunacy, so right off the bat you're going to be mismatched when squaring off against anyone else who's holding a notepad and pen. You couldn't keep your composure in check long enough to accomplish anything in your favor. I wouldn't even bet on your ability to document your own bowel movement without lecturing the turd on the way down the drain.
If you do find yourself in a notepad duel try bamboozling your opponent by telling him or her about how they could never make it in private industry. Don't forget to mention your impressive collection of CR's, kills and federal lawsuits, and how you've been there and done it all before. Practice on the cleaning crew if you have to. No, wait! They're already in private industry. Better practice on the shoeshine guy instead.
With all of your references to failing in private industry it's no stretch of the imagination to assume you've been shitcanned from a past job or two of your own. I guess personal experience is always the best teacher!
Wake the fuck up people the CITY is fucking us, but FOP is getting ready to skull fuck us !!!!!!!!!!
9/06/2008 09:02:00
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But they got hockey players like the ones at the Acadmey got so they can't be that bad!
The Keesing Bandit says---
I bet my ass is a lot cuter that those icky girls.
Now, kees me you fool!!!
Obviously, you are free do to as you please. Just remember that the Illinois statue on eavesdropping is pretty straight forward.
How is it eavesdropping when you are in the conversation?
"Look for outlying Department of Revenue facilities and then bring your tickets books and write away.
9/06/2008 10:24:00 PM"
1. http://b2.caspio.com/dp.asp?AppKey=d2341000f0h0f9a6f4f2e8h1b0a5
2. http://www.whitepages.com/10583/?source=GO000009&KW=white_pages&s_kwcid=white%20pages|854498462
Use your imagination.
"Hey Northside, what's an "oocksucker?"
9/06/2008 07:29:00 PM"
Someone who sucks oock.
Time Due is yours! A few of us just burned a few days worth extending our furloughs to check out the "Minuteman Project" in Arizona. Great time/worthy cause! Lots of fellow coppers from Az. involved. Treated us great! Participated in ongoing project called "Allied Recon". We assisted interception of 15 illegals at night. Border Patrol was right on it after we called them in. The guys out there would love to see large groups of CPD helping them. Check out the website!
You kidding me you spent time due working what kind of dumb fuck are you ?
OK, to the dipshits that posted, threatening termination and charges against recording bosses: You obviously have not attended camera training.
The camera G.O. states no member has a right to privacy while on duty.
What is good for the goose is good for the gander, right?
But then again, you are probably like ET from 019 that likes to write PO's.
It was my impression that only FLSA c/u can't be denied. If you are not in excess of those hours than it is not FLSA and therefore can be denied. Check with the head timekeeper, Marge Sanders, if you are constantly being denied c/u. Because as usual the union doesn't have the correct answers.
Question: If it is illegal to record someone without their permission,per Illinois law;what about those mikes they are having us wear on our uniforms?we did not give our permission and do we inform any citizen that they are being recorded without their permission?What are the legal ramifications?Oh,FYI,the Illinois Anti-wiretapping Law was made to protect the corrupt politicians and the Mafia.This law does not apply to the Feds.
Don't forget some whiteshirts uses notebooks too...and uses them really well.
Ask IAD
Keep a log of everything you do while at work. Also everything done to you by these unfair slobs. Don't record it's against the law for you but not them.
Sgt wally?
Time Due is yours! A few of us just burned a few days worth extending our furloughs to check out the "Minuteman Project" in Arizona. Great time/worthy cause! Lots of fellow coppers from Az. involved. Treated us great! Participated in ongoing project called "Allied Recon". We assisted interception of 15 illegals at night. Border Patrol was right on it after we called them in. The guys out there would love to see large groups of CPD helping them. Check out the website!
9/06/2008 09:12:00 AM
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I get the feeling this must be the most police work you have done all year.
when your a young copper you think the cops with afew years are dog ass's. before you judge take a minute to think why. it takes a few years to realize what it's about. look at the suckholes on your watch. then look at the copper that gets the shit car or can't get time. you will learn.
If there's a boss with an ass there's a PO ready to kiss that ass.
TO 1995, SAME SMALL PO 5'5 WHO WROTE A PO'S SON IN 2003. ALL OF 019 NEW ABOUT IT AND NOTHING HAPPENED.
"Ever read the illinois wire tap law?"
No.
Look for outlying Department of Revenue facilities and then bring your tickets books and write away.
9/06/2008 10:24:00 PM
you might also write outside of city clerks offices like the new one on archer and laramie the girl who runs it lives on the corner of 5700 s. sayre with all the illegally parked trucks next to her home, on the parkway, some with 1 plate and no city stickers as she registers them elsewhere! It is on beat 811! The clerk has a crew of overpaid ticket writers who write everyone and especially like to write in the 23rd ward as they are to cowardly to go over east! Stop one of these guys and look at their badge the goof that lives on 6000 S Moody has badge number "69" he ordered it like that!
How is it eavesdropping when you are in the conversation?
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Yes, it is a bit of an oxymoron. The reference is to the statute itself, which is entitled Article 14. Eavesdropping.
OK, to the dipshits that posted, threatening termination and charges against recording bosses: You obviously have not attended camera training.
The camera G.O. states no member has a right to privacy while on duty.
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UM! Yeah, I've been to that class and yes you are absolutely right that employees have NO right to privacy within the workplace (except the toilet - literally).
However, you are confusing two entirely different issues and if you don't/can't understand the difference then the subject isn't worth discussing.
As I previously stated, you are free to do as you please. Good Luck!
Question: If it is illegal to record someone without their permission,per Illinois law;what about those mikes they are having us wear on our uniforms?we did not give our permission and do we inform any citizen that they are being recorded without their permission?What are the legal ramifications?
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This very issue was covered rather extensively during the IST for in-car camera.
If you've attended the class, then you need to pay more attention and sleep less. If your not CPD or you haven't had the IST then I suggest that you review 720ILCS5/14. You may find it illuminating.
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I don't disagree with keeping a journal but be aware that if it becomes public, it can be called to evidence in court.
To Missy and now I guess Amber. (understanding full well it's a co-worker exposing their antics - or at least REALLY hoping it is) As a female officer it is the likes of you that makes it difficult for the rest of us. Any female officer not wishing to put on kneepads to get through her career has to work twice as hard to garner 1/2 the respect that males receive.
Please, continue to expose these pathetic excuses. Beyond the humor it puts an unwanted spotlight on them. Every district has at least 1 (in fact, not all are females) - let's show their asses here too.
9/06/2008 11:06:00 AM
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9/06/2008 11:06:00 AM
Here's a thought. How about strapping on a set and telling them to their faces? Just because someone posts some BS on this blog doesn't mean it's true. If it is true and you want to "expose their antics", expose your name as well as theirs.
Although this site offers great insights at times, it also provides a forum for cowards to post bullshit about someone they have personal issues with. I mean honestly, how fuc**d up are the individuals who continue to post about Scott or Carroll. I find it disturbing that they probably carry a gun. I said "probably", because I can neither prove, nor disprove that they are police officers.
If you post your opinions about what is wrong with this job, I understand the need for anonymous posting. But, if you want to personlly attack someone -sign your name.
9/06/2008 06:26:00 PM
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Hi It's Missy here, and I am mad people.
Lady who posted 9/06/2008 11:06:00 AM above.
Who do you think you are, if you want to be a man, the city will pay for it. Is it your bsiness me and Amber love to write parking tickets. I only wish Amber was my partner, so we could write a thousand parkers a day for our beloved Mayor.
I bet you carry two guns and smoke in the squad car, and act like little rambo. Lady, when was the last time you wrote a parking ticket so our Mayor can give us a nice raise?
I bet in the academy, you were the one who would snap the towel at me in the shower. Also, all the males in my district respect me
100 %. You know why, because I am a worker and many knew my Uncle Tom. They loved him and now me. You bring up "Knee pads" is not very nice. My husband Lawyer explained to me what you meant. That was very-very bad of you.
And to the kind gentle P.O. male that stuck up for me and Amber on9/06/2008 06:26:00 PM a big-big Thank You. I really wish I knew who you are, I would tell my great uncle, Tom Byrne (rtd). You are true blue like him sir.
My uncle Tommy would help you get promoted on your merit, like me when I get to be a Sgt. for being a parking ticket guru.
Love ya all people, and be safe people, but I am mad still at that fe-female saying those rude things !
Missy 1st. district
Question: If it is illegal to record someone without their permission,per Illinois law;what about those mikes they are having us wear on our uniforms?we did not give our permission and do we inform any citizen that they are being recorded without their permission?What are the legal ramifications?
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This very issue was covered rather extensively during the IST for in-car camera.
If you've attended the class, then you need to pay more attention and sleep less. If your not CPD or you haven't had the IST then I suggest that you review 720ILCS5/14. You may find it illuminating.
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Wow. What a dickhead response.
Are you saying that recording video, with audio, is legal, even if known only to the person doing the recording?
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NO I am not saying that at all. However, within the context of my original post I can easily see how you would jump to that conclusion. It was a poorly expressed thought on my part and I apologize for any confusion it may have caused.
The recording of any conversation without a valid court order or the knowing consent of the participants is illegal whether through an audio only recording device or video/audio recording device.
What I was alluding to, was that there is a different standard entirely for the recording of video only.
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I think you are saying "yes" recording audio and video w/ consent is illegal. Because its the audio part that makes it all illegal.
"I think you are saying "yes" recording audio and video w/ consent is illegal. Because its the audio part that makes it all illegal.
9/08/2008 03:18:00 AM"
So, then is video only legal?
So, then is video only legal?
9/09/2008 04:17:00 PM
As long as there are no images.
thats why i now carry a voice activated recorder so that i have a voice record of my day. if some boss or other individual should to make false statements or deny what was said i can cover my ass and my partners. if i did something wrong fine i will take my medicine but mark my words "dont lie about me" because this no clout first generation wont being down without a fight. i would rather take the hit for carry a recorder but i doubt it since everything is being logged and backed up and ready to be sent to the media at the push of a button on a non police citizens computer. my partner and no longer talk in our squad so as to protect us. i learned the hard way that the only person i can trust is my partner. good luck to all of you new officers i have not long to go then im out.
...i would rather take the hit for carry a recorder...
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this hit is a felony and the recording cannot be used against the other party, either criminally, civilly or administratively...not worth it
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