Saturday, November 08, 2008

'08 Now Deadlier than '07

  • With about two months left in the year, Chicago has already surpassed last year’s total homicide count.

    Two teenage boys shot and killed during a fight on an Englewood street Thursday evening were the latest victims.

    The deaths of Brian Murdock, 15, and Quinton Buckner, 17, brought the total number of people killed to at least 446, according to reports from the Sun-Times News Group wire. At the end of 2007, 443 homicides were recorded in the city.

    The official homicide count through Oct. 31 was 441, a 16.4 percent increase over last year at that time.

The Tribune also covers. Sun Times, too. The cold weather can't come soon enough.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank GOD I got my chalkie 2016 shirt early!!!

11/08/2008 12:07:00 AM  
Blogger Loaded Dice said...

Add another 100-200 for overdoses, suicides and accidentals which are really homicides. Bad but still not close to the 70's. Don't forget the ER's are better and so are the MD's.


However the overall situation is much more dangerous now.



Retired in 2003.......and thankful every day.............

11/08/2008 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Start spreading the news...Chalkie is here to stay!

11/08/2008 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The two CPS students shot and killed near 63rd and Laflin on Thursday are not the angels they are being portrayed as in the media. The two were with a third person, a friend of theirs, when they were shot. One of the dead "students" had noticeable buck teeth. Surprise, surprise, there are multiple armed robbery reports from that area of Englewood with three offenders. One of the offenders is described as having buck teeth on several case reports. The two dead "students" and their friend have all ready been identified in a photo spread by a victim of a recent armed robbery. OEMC was called by several citizens after a picture of one of the "students" was shown on local television news. The callers said the "student" was one of the three guys that robbed them. More photo spreads with more robbery victims are planned. Looks like they tried to rob the wrong person this time.

11/08/2008 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the current homicide clearance rate?

11/08/2008 01:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Asshole Police Hating Mayor!
Simpleton Incompetant Supt!
3,000 Police Officers Short!
F.O.P. Union in the Mayors Pocket!
No Contract "Again".
All Time Low Morale On The Job!
Corruption And Asshole Promotions!
Police Officers Hands Tied!
A Person Like Obama Elected!
Hmmm, Go Figure. Crime and the murder rate on the rise.... DUH!!!

Workers ready and able to work BUT =
*NO searchwarrants on Friday's and Saturdays.
*Then, NO search warrants out of the Area you are assigned.
*Then, NO search warrants out of the 2 project safe neighborhood districts.
*Then, NO drug/narcotic search warrants.
*Then, ONLY "GOOD" warrants, huh?
*Then, NO coming in early to do search warrants.
*Then, NO ovetime whatsover regarding search warrants.
*Then, NO working on search warrants and then NOT executing them in the first 3 hours after approval. Huh? What world do you live and work in?
*Then, Fuck quality, only quantity!@ what the fuck.
This city, This dept, This Unit - Unbelievable!! Clueless - Fo Sure!@
I scrath my head each and everyday. duh uh duh , i'm a in a charge uh and i dontz knowz whatz im a doin?

Sorry, I'm going back to naroctics next month. I'll probably run into the same bullshit there too. this city is fucked. only 2 more years counting till i[m out.

11/08/2008 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will they ever admit Jodi was a mistake so we can end all this.
Nobody that was the police will work for him.But then again its not all him, its the way they promoted the idiots that are giving him the only counsel he has on this dept. Hes truly surrounded by idiots.What a joke of a dept. SORRY Chicago.
Just keeping it real,why are we #1 when we shouldnt be.

11/08/2008 02:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand how all these young african american males are getting killed by gun fire, because every time the police are involved in shootings the african americans are always saying that none of them ever had guns. So how is it that so many are getting shot and/or killed by gun fire? Sounds like some X-files kind of stuff. Kind of hard to have it both ways.

11/08/2008 03:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF---Ernest Brown is now in charge of OCD?????

This is the same guy that was once dumped from ADS down to Lt.

This is the same guy that applied to be a police chief in Arizona and was considered a shoe in until they came here to investigate him. They found out a few things and dropped him from consideration because of his "questionable integrity".

What does J-Fed do then---promote him!

You have got to be kidding. Only in Chicago

11/08/2008 04:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But we have caps and now obama!

11/08/2008 06:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Job security!

Now settle our damn contract!

11/08/2008 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so much for change!

11/08/2008 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

****Attention Media**** Get a clue! Look into how this dept has been destroyed due to no hiring, bad morale, cars that should of been junked long ago! Plus a mayor who has no clue what to do! Then we have 50 "silent types" who are kept in daleys harem with nothing to say as they like our mayor are dumbfounded whenever anything remotely scandalous touches them! WTF! The topper no contract, for what 17 months and counting, but he always finds millions for his pet projects like the failing shit cps school system! He is putting what 200 million into buckingham fountain? He found more money, lets paly treasue hunt with daley and have Patrick Fitzgerald find all the buried treasure, before daley has him removed with his new white house control!

11/08/2008 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn you're still crying about Obama? get over it the rest of us have moved on. The Country is all ready fucked up.

11/08/2008 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand how all these young african american males are getting killed by gun fire, because every time the police are involved in shootings the african americans are always saying that none of them ever had guns. So how is it that so many are getting shot and/or killed by gun fire? Sounds like some X-files kind of stuff. Kind of hard to have it both ways.

11/08/2008 03:15:00 AM

Well DUH!!! Didn't you know, it's the bad mean racist poleeces thats be comin into the hood on theys day off and killin the next presidents.

11/08/2008 09:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy 18 Percent Batman!!!

The managers of this city are solely responsible for the effective and efficient use of city resources to provide safety and service to all it's citizens.

Da mayor, alderman and their appointed managers are not taking their roles and responsibilities serious.

Continued miss communication, lack of leadership and unclear goals & objectives for subordinates to follow is evident.

This city is "out-of-control" and is missed management. Voters should be outraged and demanding more positive results. As a taxpayer I am putting my foot down and demanding more. Much more. Change. We need change. Change for the good. Vote these crooks out!

11/08/2008 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two teenage boys shot and killed during a fight on an Englewood street Thursday evening were the latest victims.
The deaths of Brian Murdock, 15, and Quinton Buckner, 17,
-----------------------------------

Wasn't a relative of the poor young mr. murdock killed on election night or were they not related?

11/08/2008 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Looks like they tried to rob the wrong person this time.

11/08/2008 12:37:00 AM"



Charles Darwin is smiling.

11/08/2008 09:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, that seems to be how it works around here. Promote someone who has sexual harassment suits. First Shields then Brown. The south chicago boss will probably be next. See how he tried to take the heat off by sending his 2 year wonder to 1st watch. Apparently she told a few people she's not happy with this, but she's willing to ride it out. The kicker is that he placed her in a spot where other hardworking officers have been trying to get. Talk about fair. I hope he takes that ditz with him when he leaves. If he leaves.

11/08/2008 09:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thids department is a joke Ernie Brown belongs in prison for all the shit he plled in public housing and 3. The good citizens of small town AZ. figured out the guy is a lying crook but Jfraud puts him in charge of OCD. Brown may be the most corrupt exempt on the department and there are many. Jfraud is a joke clout rules. Work for E Brown if you feel like going to prison.

11/08/2008 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it true Corky Calhoun gone from 015 and now in 007?

11/08/2008 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hear everyone is bidding out of TRU. Could it be because the commanders ego has taken over or is it because his sex-retery CC (a PO with 8 yrs on) runs the show.
BTW, how is it that she picks a 9b furlo but doesnt take it. Instead she takes v-days in between her sat-sun days off thus creating a working day furlo (which she ISNT entitled to with 8 yrs on).

-soon to be former 253

11/08/2008 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pols will never admitt to a problem they cant solve. plus its political suicide to hold '' people''accountable for their actions in certain communities. maybe a president elect can address this urban phenomenon. and just throwing money around wont change much...family values,moral values,respect for yourself and others, fathers and mothers teaching their children love and respect. you know ...republican issues!

11/08/2008 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand how all these young african american males are getting killed by gun fire, because every time the police are involved in shootings the african americans are always saying that none of them ever had guns. So how is it that so many are getting shot and/or killed by gun fire? Sounds like some X-files kind of stuff. Kind of hard to have it both ways.

The truth is out there!

11/08/2008 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me break it down very simply for you! First of im gonna use their number against them. 13,000 officers right. Well if we have 13,000 officers then what is 10% 1300 (too many) ok what is 1% 130 (too many) ok what is .005% 65( too many) ok what is .0025% (32.5) ok this number is still high but lets go with it. we had less than a quarter of one percent of our officers who were rogue cops. They beat up bartenders, they did the sos scandals, they beat people up at bars with pool balls. All this was highlighted in the media. Nobody cared that the other 99.75% of the officers were doing the right thing.

So what happened. Daley forgot about the 99.75% percent of the officers who were doing the right thing and brought in this federal agent! With No police experience. A slap in the face to many. This guy said anyone that messes up I will not only fire but prosecute!And he proved that! On top of that you had all these ministers and alderman screaming that the system was flawed. That there was no police supervision. (No more ops) That police were violating people rights!(put cameras in the cars) They wanted a patty cake dept. They didn't want a proactive dept. They wanted a reactive dept.
Well they got it! It has been a snow ball effect. Add in the fact the police do not have a contract now for over 16months and the morale is down. Police are still responding to calls and people in need. But as far as going out of their way to be proactive and get in trouble for doing something slightly twisted is out of the question. Who wants to get in trouble for anything. From Now on everything will be conducted by the book. In Turn what happens! Now Murder rate has SKYROCKETED and crime is through the roof! Now the ministers and alderman aren't screaming that the police are violating peoples rights and stopping them for no reason, rather stating that there aren't enough police men out there! Now is it that there aren't enough police out there? or is it the simple fact that u beat them down so bad (killing morale,no contract,6day work week,bringing an outsider who knows nothing about the dept or about policing and pay him 300,000 a year while screaming the budget is tight) just to name a few and now they are wondering why no one is pumped up to go above and beyond the call of duty. There is no doubt in my mind that we have the best officers in the nation.
Just because a few bad apples ruined the bunch Daley jumped on his knee jerk reaction impulse to do numerous bone head decisions! police were like pit-bulls ready to jump on any type of crime and nip it in the butt before it even started. Then you guys took out their teeth and declawed them and told them to go out and play nice! You might as well send out a chihuahua out there.
If you guys want safety and order back lets get rid of this imposter! send him back to philly with his bad suits. Lets get these police a raise! Lets get these guys a good schedule. Lets promote from within. Someone who we can proudly say wore the uniform throughout his career.
Don't talk about how the City is tight of funds because that is so far from the truth.
we have the
highest property taxes in the natio
higest sales tax in the nation
just leased the skyway 1.83 billion
just leased midway 2.5 billion
red light cameras(248) that have generated over 90 million dollars so far with more to come!
Heck we even get taxed for bottle water.
City stickers,plate stickers, how many meter maids our dropped off by bus loads to write tickets. yet we are on a tight budget!

Please don't spit on me and tell me its raining! Lets Go ! wake up and smell the coffee. The city is going down the tubes and going quickly. The inmates are running the asylum.

signed
the TRUTH........

11/08/2008 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
WTF---Ernest Brown is now in charge of OCD?????

This is the same guy that was once dumped from ADS down to Lt.

This is the same guy that applied to be a police chief in Arizona and was considered a shoe in until they came here to investigate him. They found out a few things and dropped him from consideration because of his "questionable integrity".

What does J-Fed do then---promote him!

You have got to be kidding. Only in Chicago

11/08/2008 04:37:00 AM

Arizona found more than a mistake in the resume. They ran away. Now we have the honor of his ethical leadership. Watch future transfer orders and phone orders. He will move his females in his office and surrond himslef with his troops. Forget organized crime. He is organized crime with a license.

11/08/2008 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we get to 500 with 6-7 weeks left for '08? With O'bama we can!

11/08/2008 11:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let it burn. give em what they want

11/08/2008 12:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quit picking on the media. Don't think lack of coverage is due to lack of trying. Got to get people on the record, same as you. Not happening. Burden of proof is lower in civil court, which is where the papers would wind up, sued for slander.

11/08/2008 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

speakn of search wrts, by boss wont let us do any warrants outside the district. we get information, good information but we have to give it to other tact officers in that district. this is bullshit. whats up with this new search warrant g.o.? what the fuck are we supposed to do with this fucking camera? we we're all talking and we figured if you take pictures twice and maybe 3 times in an entire house, you could actually take up to like 50 photo's. what a knucklehead idea.

11/08/2008 12:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our problems will be over once Obama starts his term in office. We will have a national ban enacted on assault weapons with a possible ban on semi-auto pistols. Any CCW permits will be overturned with a restructure of H.R.218 in regards to retired carry.

11/08/2008 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

500 club?

11/08/2008 01:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anybody know what the current AGG Battery w/Firearm total is for the year so far is? Heard it may be close to double last years numbers????????

11/08/2008 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

do not worry-- once Obama is president their will be no more shootings or violence-- heard to yuppies talking today about how now that obama is president the terrorist will not want to attack us anymore-- watching the way these yuppies and shitheads have been acting if feel like i am in Attack of the Body Snatchers-- i think obama also cures cancer.

11/08/2008 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

putting Ernie Brown in charge of OCD is like putting the William Ayers in charge of the FBI ... Go figure ??? The gang bangers win with this one ... He should have put Leo Schmitz or Al Wysinger in there ...

11/08/2008 01:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah, funny about Chief Ernest Brown. They must seem to like to promote everyone who has sexual harrasment cases on the job or who engage in "extracurricular activities" on the job. First Shields then Brown. That's just the trend. Who will be next? They say the South Chicago Cmdr is no stranger to this either. See how he tried to salvage his reputation by sending his 2year wonder to 1st watch, and placing her on a team other hard working officers have been trying to get on.Talk about fair. I bet she's the first to go with him when he leaves. That's if he leaves.

11/08/2008 09:52:00 AM

Dont forget about that womanizer E. Roy of 009, one of the few commanders who were retained after JWeasil made his original changes.

11/08/2008 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its still not high enough to get anyone's attention.

11/08/2008 02:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our boss bitches at all of us on the gang team about wanting more search warrants, this from a guy that never did one in his career. He's always asking us questions about the hows and whys, the ins and outs of a warrant. Unbelievable I tell ya.

11/08/2008 03:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NOWHERE DEADLIER than Chicago, Not Even IRAQ !!!

11/08/2008 04:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone have the Homicide Clearence Rates by Area ?

11/08/2008 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anonymous said...
WTF---Ernest Brown is now in charge of OCD?????

This is the same guy that was once dumped from ADS down to Lt.

This is the same guy that applied to be a police chief in Arizona and was considered a shoe in until they came here to investigate him. They found out a few things and dropped him from consideration because of his "questionable integrity".

What does J-Fed do then---promote him!

You have got to be kidding. Only in Chicago

11/08/2008 04:37:00 AM


I doubt Jody had a say in promoting Brown. It came down from on high, I will lay money. Minor things like false entries on one's resume don't matter with the CPD. they know about falsifying command staff qualifications, education etc.

11/08/2008 05:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the current homicide clearance rate?

11/08/2008 01:12:00 AM


2

11/08/2008 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Anyone try to buy their own AR-15 lately? There just aren't any for sale. Ever since wednesday morning, people have been buying them and .223 Remington faster than it can be shipped! I received an e-mail that they were on sale for $700 at a particular supplier at 6am. By 10am, their stock was exhausted. So..either people are really paranoid Obama and his ilk are going to ban "dangerous looking" guns..or..
they are preparing for something larger.

11/08/2008 07:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will they ever admit Jodi was a mistake so we can end all this.
Nobody that was the police will work for him.But then again its not all him, its the way they promoted the idiots that are giving him the only counsel he has on this dept. Hes truly surrounded by idiots.What a joke of a dept. SORRY Chicago.
Just keeping it real,why are we #1 when we shouldnt be.

The REAL PROBLEMS behind Jody are the three curtaineers..the little men behind the curtain. That would be Peterson, Masters and of course, Sgt. snake of the Policy Group.
Hey SCC, did you hear that Sgt. Degenhardt of the Animal Crimes Investigations unit (now assigned to Gang Intel) has been dumped?
What has Masters got to say about this? Masters engineered the commandeering of the ACU from SFS directly to Gangs so Baby Brian could "take his unit back." What did BB do to get dumped? Word is that everyone who worked for this egomaniacal prick is relieved. Oh, and he sent the members of his team
e-mails, telling them that even though he "liked them" personally, they "fucked him." What a tool!

11/08/2008 08:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope someone has the courage to tell Peterson he is making a huge mistake by publicly backing Thief Brown. Ooops, I guess I meant to say Chief.

Anyhow, Peterson has no background in OCD and doesn't know what we know. He better listen to us on this one and force his pal superintendent to get Thief Brown out of there. Damn it, I did it again.

11/08/2008 10:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brian Murdock and Quinten Buckner dead. Damn shame these Irish kids can't stay out of trouble.

11/08/2008 11:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone take notice that President Elect Obama never mentioned the police in any of his campaining nor were any pictures of police shown in the adds. He made a statment about makeing a civilian security force being as well equiped as the military. I am not sure what all this means? I also see that a record number of guns were sold on 5 nov. I guess other people don't know what this means either.

11/09/2008 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/08/2008 01:25:00 AM

Comment at above time, like dude, just hit the D&D and chill!
There are hundreds of us supercops just chillin. The city can't handle real police enforcement. For God's sake they are ready to legalize Marijuanna and everybody is talking about Hampsterdam. And you? You have 2 years left and your looking for a DC or something?
Man.........you need some therapy!

11/09/2008 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
putting Ernie Brown in charge of OCD is like putting the William Ayers in charge of the FBI ... Go figure ??? ...

11/08/2008 01:30:00 PM

I wouldn't put it past Barry O to put Ayers in charge the FBI.

11/09/2008 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand how all these young African American males are getting killed by gun fire, because every time the police are involved in shootings the african americans are always saying that none of them ever had guns. So how is it that so many are getting shot and/or killed by gun fire? Sounds like some X-files kind of stuff. Kind of hard to have it both ways.

Answer:
You are racist my friend! How do you know they are from Africa? Did you do a family tree? What if they are from Haiti, Dominican Republic, or American Indian or anything...If you want to see nice African people go take a walk by Ronan park one afternoon in the 017th District. Nice African people that just came to America. Married couples walking with their children in multicolor atire. You never see them up to any criminal activity and they are good parents. Next time you say the word African do not insult the people I like to watch in the park racist. They have nothing to do with the pscychotic killers from the West and south sides that account for the majority of the homicides in the city. Call it bad pscycho-social developement, bad family values, divorces, never been married, no education, terrible roll models, crappy CPS, ect.. Whatever you want to call it, guess what, it is too late for a cure and the police are the only people who will be involved in any corrective measures if the media does not rip them a new A-hole.

11/09/2008 01:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 11/08/2008 12:24:00 PM

Try to sell that elsewhere---we're not buying........

11/09/2008 08:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just look at who voted for the big guy. Our time as a nation of free thinking individuals is over. Welcome to the herd, you will now be directed in everything from how you work, who will live in your neighbors, where your kids will go to school and what they will be taught. It is not going to end, get used to it. This thing is going to esclate into a nation of zombies. Our boarders our military its done.

11/09/2008 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

crappy CPS,

Quit spewing the company bs, it isn't the schools, it's the kids, if they wanted to learn they would apply themselves, pay attention, respect their tacher, do their school work and progress through the system...you could send them all to private school and the result would be the same; it helps if you have parents that are involved, oh well, silly me...

11/09/2008 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does that mean I can't get my Cost of Living increase in January?

Signed Jody Weis

11/09/2008 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11/08/2008 01:25:00 AM

Posted the following:

*Then, NO working on search warrants and then NOT executing them in the first 3 hours after approval.

What you have to understand is that this concept allows the imbedded Gang Banger in your unit an opportunity to call ahead to warn her [and yes I did say HER] cohorts of what's coming. We here in Homan Square know this all too well.

11/09/2008 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Next time you say the word African do not insult the people I like to watch in the park racist.

***** ***** ****** ******

Wow.

When you watch and watch, from your hidden vantage point, do you begin to have urges?

11/09/2008 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Califate-elect Barack Obama Bin-Laden says---

Those yuppies were right. We will not be attacked by terrorists again. They are my brothers and they know that the U.S. will be an Islamic state in no time at all, with me as Califate. It is the will of Allah.

Change you will be forced to believe in.

11/09/2008 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...young African-Americans being killed by gunfire..."

I have the solution. I can start a series of "duck" classes. Basically, when you hear gunfire--duck.

11/09/2008 11:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fed Up said...
11/08/2008 01:25:00 AM

Posted the following:

*Then, NO working on search warrants and then NOT executing them in the first 3 hours after approval.

What you have to understand is that this concept allows the imbedded Gang Banger in your unit an opportunity to call ahead to warn her [and yes I did say HER] cohorts of what's coming. We here in Homan Square know this all too well.

11/09/2008 10:33:00 AM

If your involved with search warrants at all in this day and age you have to be goofy!

11/10/2008 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
putting Ernie Brown in charge of OCD is like putting the William Ayers in charge of the FBI ... Go figure ??? ...

11/08/2008 01:30:00 PM

I wouldn't put it past Barry O to put Ayers in charge the FBI.

11/09/2008 12:58:00 AM

brown and ayers 2 of a kind both idiots!

11/10/2008 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey guys and gals: pay particular attention to today's agreement between the city and various labor unions. The city may be asking us before long to take unpaid furlough days just like the other unions. Contact our union president via e mail etc and protest this possible/probable request. Then the city can blame the police for its budget woes. We have seen this movie before.

11/17/2008 10:16:00 PM  

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